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Speaker 1: What episode away? I right, is that paper? Episode sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode sixteen in the Bobby Cast. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. That's great here with Brandon Ray on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ray Music here right now? What's going on? Okay? So,

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Speaker 1: I think are talking a little different than any of

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Speaker 1: the talks that I've had with an artist before, because

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Speaker 1: I think with you, you're right in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the try like you're right in the middle of trying

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Speaker 1: to find your spot wherever it is in this industry

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Speaker 1: and in the past, that's what's cool about this. I

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Speaker 1: can do whatever I want. In the past, I've had

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Speaker 1: people who have made it as great songwriters, people who

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Speaker 1: have made it as artists, like you're just pretty mediocre

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Speaker 1: right now. Let's me to be honest. That's that's my

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Speaker 1: middle name. So listen, Brandon is one I've played him

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Speaker 1: on the show before, like he's that good. So um,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ray is here at Brandon Ray Music on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram. That sah all right, So let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with today and kind of work

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Speaker 1: all the way back around because Brandon's an interesting story.

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Speaker 1: Brandon is so good. I said, hey, will you come

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Speaker 1: raging idiots? And he has And I really don't know

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Speaker 1: like our news good, and then he's like mind blowingly good.

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Speaker 1: Actually stand beside and playing. I don't just say that

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Speaker 1: bebian said Brandon. I'll play a song right now that

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Speaker 1: that Brandon has out. This is called American way. Here

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Speaker 1: we go, us down to freaking weekend him him a

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Speaker 1: sea baby. Brandon's also a fantastic guitar player. So I

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Speaker 1: to the music now. Would like to be as honest

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Speaker 1: a record deal right now. So what has that process

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Speaker 1: But what do that mean? Like just you know people

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Speaker 1: like every single weekend. I think I've been gone Thursday

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Speaker 1: other and and you you you know, promote things for

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Speaker 1: that's terrible. If they heard this, they were like, we

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked way and saw me and my

424
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: brother won the drum line. We played snare and all

425
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So you were a drummer, I was. Yeah.

426
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: My brother Ryan taught me how to play drums, and

427
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: so did Derek. Derek was a drummer as well, and

428
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 1: so we were all on the drum line for Sin

429
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: High School. Go buffs Um and we would play, we

430
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: would do the halftime show, we'd we'd play all the

431
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: games and all that kind of stuff. And it's West

432
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 1: Texas like Big Spring Pick Spring millin Odessa and there.

433
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean we were two a school, but we seriously

434
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 1: had a college side stadium because football, man, it's everything.

435
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: And so we would play that and then we would

436
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: go play a show either in our town that night

437
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: or sixty miles away like Midland. We play that, we

438
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: play a show, and we do at least two or

439
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: three shows a weekend. Like my parents, I don't know

440
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: what they were thinking. They were just like Oh yeah,

441
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: like go to school and you know, go play Friday, Saturday,

442
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: Sunday and come back you know. Um so that's kind

443
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: of how I kind of cut my teeth in playing

444
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: music in the grind of touring. And then we moved

445
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,239
Speaker 1: to Denton. Big city. Oh yeah, big city right now,

446
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: the Dallas and my brother went to North Texas and

447
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: I tried to go to some like little uh community

448
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: college and tried to get an audio engineering degree. But

449
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: we ended up leaving Dent and we did the whole

450
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Texas music scene, but we ended up going on the

451
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: Warp Tour for two for three years. Wow, you warped

452
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: toward it for three years? Oh my god, man, it was.

453
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: It was the coolest, most miserable time in my life.

454
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Where were you? I'm at the Warp Tour because again

455
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: my background radio has been pop alternative, so I've been

456
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: to a bunch of Warp Tour shows. And how I worked,

457
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: I worked for everyone is like shall I started like

458
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: eleven am and it alway until the end, and that's

459
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: when like, you know, Blank wanted to play at the

460
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: very end. If they decide it's one of their shows,

461
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: they fly in and yes, yeah, but but really it's

462
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,959
Speaker 1: a bunch of skateboarders and just bands all day long

463
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: that you've never heard of. So if the chef started

464
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: at eleven am and ended it midnight, what hour ship

465
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: did you guys? The first the first year we did this, Uh,

466
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: it's awful. We we seriously played like at at eleven

467
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: am with for nobody, and so the idea of warped tour,

468
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, Uh Haley Haley Williams from Paramore. I think

469
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: she she had like a documentary and she she put

470
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: it all out there. But it's so real. You pass

471
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: out ten thousand flyers a day. You're just trying to

472
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: get two people to come to your stage and watch you, like,

473
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: just come, like, I know you want to go see

474
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: a Fallout boy later, but you know we're playing right

475
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: before him. Uh you should just come, like we'll give

476
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: you a T shirt like it was anything, you know,

477
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: So that was like the end of true music promotion,

478
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: like like giving a flyer to somebody and word of

479
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: mouth and now it's it's awesome with social media, but

480
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: that you know that time is no more. You don't

481
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: hand out That sucks. No, it's so bad. I'm so

482
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: sad we don't have to chart our own milk anymore

483
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: those days. Now we have grocery Manez Back when times

484
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: we're simpler and much better, probably made keikos dollars like horrible,

485
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: But it really taught me about promotion and and really

486
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: making fans and really the face to face eye contact

487
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: that you make, and and appreciating those people because they're

488
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: the people who are getting you those better slots on

489
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: that tour, or you know, when you come back into

490
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: that town, they're gonna come see you at that crappy

491
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: club you're playing at. You know, so you do Warped

492
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: Toy with your brothers or in this punk band, so

493
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, this is not for me. So

494
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: basically we went out to l A. I lived out

495
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: in l A for about six months, and we had

496
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: a development deal with with Sony out over there, and

497
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: they had other bands like I don't know if you

498
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: remember a band called Forever the Sickest Kids, and it

499
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: was the whole MySpace age. He's a big Mike. Mike

500
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: did a punk podcast for years called the Everyday Destruction

501
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: Podcast that that's all they talked about was punk music.

502
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: It was terrible musically, it was terrible, like I admired

503
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Mike for doing it, and I listened to it and

504
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: I'd be like hey dude, and I went but it

505
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: was like music, and I was like, this is awful.

506
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: Like I'll get in Mike's car and it's just that

507
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: mess of music like that you were playing right there,

508
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: like that that horrible, awful stuff. Yeah. Yes, so you

509
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: go to l A. You're doing you have a development deal,

510
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: so we're you know, with my Space. That was the

511
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: whole thing. So any label that came to you, they

512
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: were like, yeah. We were told we had to have

513
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: at least thirty five thousand daily plays on our MySpace

514
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: and we're like done. So we were up to like

515
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: forty tho spins every single day, you know, turning and

516
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: grinding and getting people to just come on board and

517
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: share our make it, make it your profile song or whatever.

518
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: And you know, we would play at the Roxy, we

519
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: play at at the Whiskey and all those places and

520
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: other people's l A experiences are different, um, but mine

521
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: was miserable and there was no community. There was no

522
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: support or encourage encouragement from anybody. So when we went

523
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: out and and started doing opening shows for fall Out

524
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Boy and Sugar Colt and people like that. Um, it

525
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: was that same thing, you know, Oh you got to

526
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: two with Fall Boys, Like yeah, we played at five

527
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: thirty in the afternoon when the doors open for like

528
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: a hundred people, passed out our flyers and played at

529
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: the club next door for an after party, you know,

530
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: just to try to just capitalize on the opportunity and

531
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: man for us personally, the it was just dying and

532
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: I knew where I wanted to be, and I kept

533
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: making trips to Nashville and writing, and you know, starting

534
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: to get into the co writing thing. And you know,

535
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: I love country music. I love I love writing it,

536
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: I love singing it, and I love the fans because

537
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: they're die hard fans. With rock music, it was like

538
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: flavor of the week, you know. If you know, you'd

539
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: make all these fans, say in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and you'd

540
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: have a good turnout, and you come back two months

541
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: later and nobody cares, you know. With country, and this

542
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: is what I see all the time. It's so much

543
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: more artists driven. Pop is song driven. Rock is let's

544
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: just see what happens this month, like and that's that's

545
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,239
Speaker 1: really the difference, Like like and pop it's like how

546
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: good is your song? And country like if once you

547
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: have fans that like that artist, there, the country music

548
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: listener is a loyal person listener, Like if you're a

549
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Luke fan, and you've been a Luke fan, you will

550
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: always be a Luke fan the rest of your life.

551
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: If he may go to a polk album, but dang it,

552
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna download that Luke record. It's gonna be the

553
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: walmart In in all its fans. But yes, country music

554
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: it is. It is about the artists. You need that

555
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: first song. You have to get those songs and get

556
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: you to get people noticed the artist. But once they're

557
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: in on the artist, and I have that in the

558
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: radio world too. It's like I have the greatest listeners

559
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: and I will do the worst segments, the worst, terrible segments,

560
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: and they'll be right there and the radios come in

561
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even know what people were listening.

562
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like we had a I looked

563
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: at last week show. They weren't that good. Can't believe

564
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: the ratings that you know, it's it's just a culture

565
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: of the town, the format, the music, and so you

566
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: moved to town because you realize that's kind of the

567
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: the environment that you want to be in. I mean,

568
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: is that the reason? Yeah? The community. I think it

569
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing you know in the rock world,

570
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: uh in l A. And you know, just the the

571
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: whole culture of it was so just dark and it

572
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: was so lonely. You know, it was like every man

573
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: for himself, so cut throat. And here, you know it

574
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: is it is kind of competition, which listen, it's a

575
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: creative industry. There's always a ton of competition because there

576
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: are two slots and there are seven thousand people, so

577
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: it's always competitive. But it's not just music, any sort

578
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: of creative acting, any creative field. It's seven thousand people

579
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 1: going for two spots. But you're right, as competitive as

580
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: it is, this town is very warm and working together,

581
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: that's it. It's very encouraging, supportive. And you know, I

582
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: always say anytime I invite a friend of mine from

583
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Texas or somewhere to come visit, half the time they

584
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: end up moving here because they feel the same way,

585
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: even if it's not music related. They're like, I just

586
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I just love this town. I love the people, I

587
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: love just you know everything about it. When did you

588
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: move to Nashville two thousand nine. Okay, and so you

589
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: move here and you just started playing guitar for people,

590
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: and so I would go to writers writers nights and

591
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: writers rounds where, you know, if you don't know what

592
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: that is, there's four people on stage playing songs they

593
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: write one at a time and telling stories about them.

594
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: And I would just go and and want to learn,

595
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: you know. And so I started making friends, started co

596
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: writing with those friends and singing those demos, and so

597
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: my friends with publishing deals would turn those songs into

598
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: their publishers and they'd be like, Oh, who's the singing

599
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Who is this the guy you wrote it with? They're

600
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: like yeah, And so that's how I kind of, you know,

601
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: got into that um getting a publishing deal and also

602
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: playing guitar for for different people. I still felt like

603
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: you're a better singer than you are anything else, which

604
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: is crazy, thanks because you're an elite singer and I

605
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: had no idea. I thought you were just a really

606
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: good guitar player. And then he started singing, and you're like, oh,

607
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: because all I'll do it raging age. I won't let

608
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: him saying until like after the second half of the show,

609
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: because then people will just be like, can he sing

610
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: some more? Like keep him? So he plays and he

611
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: kills it, and then as we get to the second half,

612
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, Brandon eurerope and then he just

613
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: crushes it like he was. I was watching your YouTube channel,

614
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: and again I don't both smoke, but I was watching

615
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: YouTube channel and there's a song from Sean Mindeth called Mercy.

616
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking baby please Mercy seeing it ec on that

617
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: and Brandon is doing a cover of it, and I'm like,

618
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: god know he could sing, but it's so good. I'm safe.

619
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Baby please ever mercy on me, take it easy on

620
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: my heart. Even though you don't mean hurt me, you

621
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: keep telling me up, but would you please Percy Mercy?

622
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Oh my heart? Please Mercy Mercy? O my heart. That's

623
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: that's weird because you're such a good guitar player and

624
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: you're such a good singer to like, what do you

625
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: want to be known as? Everybody pigeonholes? Everybody everybody does? Yeah? Right,

626
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: And as you think about that, I'll give you an example.

627
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to the Luke Bryant thing. Nobody

628
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: knows how good of an art like actual musician Luke

629
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: Brian is the general mass thinks he's a guy with

630
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: some good songs and gets down on stage and he dances,

631
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: but's on a good show. The guy will take a

632
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: guitar or take a piano and just crush it and

633
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I get it. Okay, this is why

634
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: he's phenomenal. This is why he gets to do what else?

635
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: This is why he gets to play mckamore in the

636
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: middle of a step because he was so good at

637
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: doing everything at the beginning. So okay, I'm pigeonholing you

638
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: into where where do you want a pigeon hole? Man?

639
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: That's that's such a crazy question because with everybody, even you,

640
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: there's so many layers to who you are. And the

641
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: more you the more you experience that artist, the more

642
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: you get to know those layers. Where you know seven

643
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: layers and someone a first impression though they don't get

644
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: don't you get layers? Throw seven at first? What's hilaryery?

645
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: You won't be able to get the first thing. Is

646
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: it the guy that's the fantastic singer or is the

647
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: guy who's the killer guitarist? I would say I would

648
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: say singer man. I mean I was gonna make it

649
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: be your answer. But yeah, like he's holding up a

650
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: sign right now, I'm really not, but it's gotta be

651
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: saying I gotta be. That's your first listening impression. Nobody.

652
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, nobody really knows Keith Urban plays all

653
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: those solos, but he does about that. Nobody cares. Nobody

654
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: cares like it's amazing. Like me as a guitar player,

655
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I listened to you know, if if Brad Pays it

656
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: comes on, or Keith Urban or you know, any of

657
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: those people, when that solo comes, I'm like, oh my god,

658
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: it's so good that the nerds like it, like it

659
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: like guys. But most people, they just wanna hear a

660
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: good song. They want to hear Keith Urban sing. You

661
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They want to hear that song.

662
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: That's that's what they know, that's what they identify with.

663
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: And you know, if I'm up on stage playing and

664
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: I go into a solo, it's cool. But even with

665
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: guys like Keith Urban, when they go into a solo,

666
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: the people start looking side to side or start looking

667
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: at their phone because the singing aspect has to be there.

668
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that hits their ears and that's

669
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: all they know. I listen. I'm not saying that I've

670
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: watched Urban, but I watched everybody solos for four hours.

671
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing, Like that dude, he and I don't know.

672
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: You may hear this after the c m A is

673
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: like he made one entertime. I don't know what he's

674
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: gonna but that's one of the most that's it's such

675
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: a fantastic live artist. But that's what you can do too, Like,

676
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: once you get live, you can do all your stuff.

677
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: But people don't. Most people don't get to see people live.

678
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: Like percent people don't get to see Keith Urban live.

679
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: They just hear what's on the radio and become a

680
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: fan of I don't get to see a lot of

681
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: people alive because of my job. I get to see

682
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 1: him in the studio, but I don't. I saw Keith

683
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: Urban i Alreadio Music Festival for the first time play

684
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: a full show. It's a year ago, blown away. It's crazy,

685
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: and he'd played in my studio seven times. But also

686
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't get to experience that side

687
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: of it too, So that's oh no, But you get

688
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: to experience what the studio stuff isn't it's it's ridiculous.

689
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to thought myself right in the NATS

690
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: because I'm like taking the moment, Like when Garth Brooks

691
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: comes in and play songs it's ridiculous and I can

692
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: touch him and he tells me to stop. Yah. Yeah yeah,

693
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: He's like stop touch So okay, here's listen to this.

694
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: Here's uh justin timber like cover of Drink You Away,

695
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: change track, try to track all these keep saying all

696
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: of this. Tell me, baby, it doesn't make a better

697
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: sim Now as you're hearing these covers, I'm gonna remind

698
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: you that you can go and you can download, you

699
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: can stream whatever. Brandon has two songs that are up now.

700
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean I can wait breach he smokes Dad Town

701
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: to freaking American way that clap Baby come on, and

702
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: that can be us. That could be said. I like

703
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: to you do the covers, though, because you know what,

704
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: that's how you can attention. Some people are so against it,

705
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: and I respect that because that's their thing, and everybody

706
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: should have the right to what they want to be

707
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: as an artist. And there are artists whore like you

708
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: know what, The covers aren't for me. And I'm like, cool,

709
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a little harder road, and I'm

710
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: glad you have that. But what you do is people

711
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: people google as a backroub, you know, the backup different artists,

712
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: the bund the background like covers of songs, and then

713
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: they may watch ten justin term like drink they're like,

714
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: holy crap, who's Brandon Ray dude? Which leads to your

715
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: music day, that's it man, And and during a live

716
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: show the same thing. Some some artists are like, no,

717
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna open, I'm gonna do my songs, and

718
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: that's totally cool. But when you're the opening slot in

719
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: front of whoever, in front of John Party, Get More Whoever,

720
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: and those people have no idea who you are, you've

721
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: got to find a way to identify with them to

722
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: to to then introduce your own stuff that you're so

723
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: right on. I tell people all the time, never be

724
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: ashamed to cover because put your own spin on it.

725
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: People just want to hear stuff they know and like,

726
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: and if you're playing neither, and most times they don't

727
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: like new music right until it because that it needs

728
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: to be something they know or just freaking phenomenal and

729
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: it's hard for something to be phenomenal that you've never

730
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: heard before. It takes a few times, and so you

731
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: can nail them with a cover and you get a

732
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: little bit of credit. So look at me. Here, are

733
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: you do something yourself on a couple of those? All right? Cool? Yeah,

734
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: that's a bad cool not playing mombo number five, brand Um.

735
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things that Brandon does is is

736
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: Donald Trump oppression is one of the best I've ever

737
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: heard of. Like, am I live because he'll send me

738
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: messages and wrong, I can't. I don't do it. But

739
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: we were on the did you watch the last one?

740
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: The sketch three where he's like, I talked to the

741
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: Mexican president Mr guacam all day. I didn't even see that.

742
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: You haven't seen that one? Okay, okay, we'll be talking wrong,

743
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: give us give us all Donald Trump here, So at

744
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: sound check at I believe the Arkansas Show. I don't

745
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: know if you notice, but I was like, my microphone

746
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: it's broken. Obama broke it, Hilary stole it. I win,

747
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: so band, it's microphone is broken. Can we get him

748
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: a new one? How does this work? Okay? Mr Trump?

749
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: Test check? It's wrong? It's all I am the best

750
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: singer on the planet Earth. What what would you say

751
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: to the people that don't agree with that? Mr? Trump? Listen,

752
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: I respect microphones more than anyone anyone on the Earth.

753
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm bickly supportive of microphones. You're vaguely supportively, Okay. I

754
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: mean we get on the bus and we laugh so much,

755
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: like and I think a key and it's gonna sound stupid,

756
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: but you said it earlier, and I tell I was

757
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: doing a show called American Supergroup. Okay. So it's a

758
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: show where they're putting a band together and the hosts

759
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: are Jennifer Nettles not hosted judge Jennifer Nettles, Alo Black

760
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: Um who but who have become buds with. But he's

761
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: the voice on Wake Me Up When Things, Dude, he's

762
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: so good. It's allow Black, it's l king. Yeah. You

763
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: know she has xs and os and she's not different

764
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: for girls with dirks. And so they're the the judge.

765
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: I went into mentor the country band and they're like, hey,

766
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: tell us, how to you know do um be a band?

767
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: And and I'm listen, you're all good or you wouldn't

768
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: be here. But let me give you a big tip,

769
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: be a great hang. Those four letters are everything. If

770
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: people want you around, they have you around more. And

771
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: when you're around more, you get shots to do more things.

772
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: And Brandon's a great let hang. Sorry, And I think

773
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: that's also the environment of you know what we try

774
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: to do the raging its only bring people around them

775
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: are great hangs from Nikita Natalie stove All. I mean

776
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: I just today I got you know, Lindsay. L's now

777
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. You are You're now You're now into that

778
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: special friends vib But I mean they're just such fun

779
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: people that I was like, let's another show. I'll have

780
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: a back again. There's some fun to hang around with.

781
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: Do congrats. By the way, I have a girlfriend, there's

782
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: no congratulate. You know. It shows me how big of

783
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: a loser I am. It's when I'm getting a thousand

784
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: congrats for getting a girlfriend, something most people do all

785
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: the time. Hey, dude, congrats congrats on driving to work today.

786
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: Wait wait, most people drive to work every day. Why

787
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: are you congratulating me on driving to work today? Like

788
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: the accomplishment? Yeah, it was a sweet that was like,

789
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what, Bobby. It showed me that even normal

790
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: guys can get hot girls if normal guys have their

791
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: on radio showed New York Times best seller and you

792
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: know the band, and I was like, that's funny. That's

793
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: pretty funny. That's funny. Great. So okay, So here you

794
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: are now, like what's the goal as you sit right

795
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: here beside me, like like short term and long term?

796
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: Short term is uh? I just got married about a

797
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: year ago. You just had anniversary a few weeks ago,

798
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: and who knew me? And who? And I don't know

799
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: any dates and I don't care. I don't even care

800
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: about my stuff. Dude, when you showed up to my house,

801
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: it was so nice. Yeah, I was in a cupid outfit.

802
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: It was it was he was wearing a toga nothing else. Year. Yeah,

803
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: and it's it's just been it's been awesome, and you know,

804
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: being gone, you know, sometimes she gets to go with me.

805
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: She she sings backgrounds uh in the band and everything,

806
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: and um, you know, sometimes people set goals like I

807
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: want to buy, you know, the biggest house I could find.

808
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I want to buy a car. I want to do

809
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: all this stuff honestly, Like I want to be able

810
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: to get to a point where my wife can quit

811
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: her job. She she manages and bartens and works her

812
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: butt off. Can I say something, oh, like a little bit.

813
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting the answer. I was like, I'm let

814
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: a deal, Stadius. The fact that you said that and

815
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: it came to you so instinction like that, your visceral

816
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: reaction was I'd like to get my wife to a

817
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: place where she can quit her job and just, dude,

818
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: you are a good dude like I was on the

819
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: I was the I was a douce this whole time.

820
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: It's the hair I know. No, man, I whatever capacity

821
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: uh that that my music can reach, I'll always be

822
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: thankful for the fact that it's come this far. The

823
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: fact that I'm sitting here with you is like, it's

824
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: amazing to cool. Yeah, I'm really cool with you. No,

825
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: you're like and Mike D's over here looking all cool.

826
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: You're you're right now. Remember this moment. I get to

827
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: take a picture of this and turn the lights on,

828
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: so he remembers this. This is probably the peak of

829
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: his life being on that Bobby Cat actually doing it. Actually,

830
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: we take a picture anyway and put put it online.

831
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: Do we pose or what? No? No, no, we just

832
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: continue doing this and it gets posted. So are you

833
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: sucking in? I have to suck in. I didn't you know,

834
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: a little too many doughnuts this week? No, uh whatever,

835
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, whatever capacity the music goes to. I'm

836
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: so thankful for um being out with you guys, you

837
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: and Eddie. You and Eddie have taught me a lot

838
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: about that. Don't be yes here being so sincere and

839
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: I incorporate this into my live show now, Um that

840
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, my attitude and and the the music that

841
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I make, I really think caters to the to the

842
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: blue collar, the hard worker. You know, my dad was,

843
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: uh he worked thirty or five years for the union

844
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Pacific Railroad, worked his butt off, putting food on the table.

845
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: My mom worked and you know, just just him being

846
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: gone all the all that time. And you know I

847
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: saw that and we were dirt poor, like we we

848
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: didn't have anything. And so having that example growing up,

849
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: and you know, going and playing for those crowds, you know,

850
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to Iowa and Nebraska, Minnesota and all those

851
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: regions where people work sixty hours a week. They just

852
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: want to get off work, go to go to a show,

853
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 1: grab a beer or whatever with their with their friends

854
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: or their why and just chill and listen to some music,

855
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 1: and if we can be that escape for those people,

856
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: that's incredible. And what I was saying about you guys

857
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: is if at this, at this event that I'm playing,

858
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: wherever it is, if one person leaves with a smile

859
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: on their face, then I've done my job and I've

860
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: done what I'm here to do. I just want to

861
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: make people happy. I want them to forget about their

862
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: problems and their worries for forty five minutes. You know,

863
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: whatever has been you know, getting them down during the week, whatever,

864
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, whatever problem they have, if they can just

865
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: escape that for forty five minutes, and that's that. That's

866
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: what we're here for, is to give that entertainment, to

867
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: give that that care and that just attention to those

868
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: people to where they can just have a great time

869
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: for a little bit and you know, they might have

870
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: to go back and do what they do, but at

871
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: least they had that. Do you still take shows and

872
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: lose money? Definitely a lot of artists that you wouldn't think.

873
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing too about artists is that even the

874
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: ones that because people hear a song and they're like, oh,

875
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: for sure, millionaires like I have artists friends who have

876
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: had one, two, three songs, and they're like, dude, I'm struggling.

877
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: Just because you get a song on the radio doesn't

878
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: mean you're rich. And then I have friends that they

879
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: go in there like I need to play the show

880
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: I needed, I needed to look its need to play well.

881
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: So I got to hire a band and they're paying

882
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: a thousand bucks. But the band's gonna cost me eight

883
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: hundred bucks and we have to drive. You have to fly,

884
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: so you lose money on shows. But but it's an investment.

885
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: It is it has to be. And if and if

886
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: you're if you're worried about losing money, you shouldn't be

887
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: doing this. If that's your only thing, if that's your

888
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: only thing is financial gain, then you might want to stop.

889
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: And that's let me tell you a funny story. And

890
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: that's for any creative industry. Like if you're getting into

891
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: it for money, get out. I went to a college

892
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: and spoke once and I went and I said, okay,

893
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: I I just want to be honest. The only thing

894
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: I have his mo authenticity. That's it. I'm not super

895
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 1: talented in any other way. So I said, okay, I'm

896
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna just be honest with you guys, Like, if you're

897
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: here now and you're studying radio in college, get out,

898
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: like change your major. I want. I was at radio

899
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: class I was speaking to so obviouly the college wasn't

900
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: excited that I was telling all of their so they

901
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: banned me from speaking there. Yeah, remember that might ye

902
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: and and so. But the thing I would tell them is,

903
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, listen, you don't you if you're gonna be

904
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: a music engineer, you're learning that, but you don't go

905
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: to college to be unless it's like Juilliard and you

906
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: can get in. You know, you know, you don't go

907
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: to you know, the University of North Texas to be

908
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: a rock star. You just get out and start rock

909
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: starring it. And so the same way with the radio

910
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: or acting or you know so. And also what I

911
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: say is, if there's any money in your mind, don't

912
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: you can't there's none in it. Even in this I've

913
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: been lucky. Frankly speaking, I'm one of the one percent

914
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: that I was just and a lot work, ethic, some luck,

915
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: and having great people around me. That's that's the big

916
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Those three things are the biggest things. Like you've got

917
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: to show up, don't be a douche and surround yourself

918
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: with god so key people with the same goals as you,

919
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: and that that you work so well together with that

920
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: that shows with you. I mean, you have the same

921
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: team as you did in Austin. How many years ago

922
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: was that? I mean, I've had Amy for eleven years,

923
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: Lunchbox for twelve years, Eddie was my TV producer for ten.

924
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: They joined the radio show. Mike d was an intern,

925
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: Ray was an intern, Morgan was an intern. Like I

926
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: just do things with my people because I need good

927
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: people around me. I need people I trust. I didn't

928
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: do this. I worked. Let's see, I started about a

929
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: seventeen so I worked eight years making minimum wage, eight

930
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: years working minimum wage and loved it every freaking minute

931
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: of it, and would do it again and would have

932
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: kept doing it like I would have. I would have

933
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: just done radio and survived or gotten a second job

934
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: because I loved it so much. And that to people like, Okay,

935
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: I want to radio, I want to do music. The

936
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: first thing I say is would you do it for free?

937
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: Would you do it having to have another job? And

938
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: if answers yes, freaking go for it. It's the answers

939
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: no it's just not for you get out because not

940
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: a watch time, You're alwaste time. We're always what you're

941
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: gonna waste whatever you can do to get to this

942
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: other place in another lane. That's it. So for me, man, Uh,

943
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: I was out playing for Brett Eldredge. It was incredible

944
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, that guy's are you playing lead? I

945
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: was playing lead, switching off with Greg this guy. No,

946
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: but you're seeing harmonies and stuff to do with Brett,

947
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: which Brett is an incredible singer. I mean, spot on

948
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: every single time. And uh, we got to do the

949
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift Tour, which was incredible, you know. And how

950
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: was it dating Taylor? It was? It was weird, you know.

951
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: When I got pregnant, it was crazy. Um didn't make

952
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: the news though, I don't know. Yeah, that's weird. But uh,

953
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: in the middle of all that, you know, I was

954
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: like inside, I was like, okay, Like this is great,

955
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: this is really cool being able to be out here

956
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: and play guitar. But this is not why I moved here.

957
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: And a good friend of mine, Set England, who runs

958
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: Big Loud Shirt Publishing. He's also Florida Georgia Lions manager. Um,

959
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: I went and played some songs for him, you know,

960
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, I just wanted some advice.

961
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: And he's like, dude, what are you doing playing for

962
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: other people? You need to quit today. I was like, well, dude,

963
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: we're about to go on the Keith Urban Tour, like

964
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: we were like opening, like it's it's big, you know.

965
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: And so I made the decision to quit. And a

966
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, I did a show like on

967
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: a second not a couple of weeks later you make

968
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: that decision to quit, do you have to go to

969
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: Brett and say, hey, dude, And how does he react

970
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah, So I kind of came into the

971
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: whole thing. I let him know, you know, hey, I

972
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: have a publishing deal. Um, I'm doing the artist thing. Uh,

973
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: this is my ultimate goal. I can be here for

974
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: however long you need me to. But I just want

975
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: you to know that I have an exit plan. And

976
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: he's like, of course, man, He's like, I just love

977
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: having you around. You know, we we kill it together.

978
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: So hang get hang hang um and so they knew

979
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: and and it was it was such a great understanding,

980
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: you know. And then so I I did this show,

981
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: my solo show, and Seth and and the f GL

982
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: guys came out and um after the shows, like, hey man,

983
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: let's let's talk real quick. I was like, oh, Seth,

984
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna tell me enjoyed it, you know.

985
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: And he goes, hey, man, you wanta you wanna play

986
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: guitar for f g L. I was like, you just

987
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: told me to quit. I was like, I'm so confused

988
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: right now, man, Like what is happening like? And he

989
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: goes listen, like they saw your performance, they dug it,

990
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: and they're like they need a guitar player. So I'm

991
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: just passing along the word. And so I was like, oh, man,

992
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: that's amazing like that, that's such a great opportunity. Cruiz

993
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: had went number one and all that stuff, and um,

994
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: I really took a lot of time to think about it.

995
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: That's not something you just take lightly. And I came

996
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: back to Seth and I said, man, your original advice

997
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: to me spoke to me so much that that's what

998
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Like, I hope you guys find you

999
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be fine, You'll find a guitar player,

1000
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: but this is what I have to do. And um,

1001
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: that was a defining moment for me, and I still

1002
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: have that same drive times ten because it's not like

1003
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: I have to make this happen, I have to make

1004
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: the money and blah blah blah. No, it's because it's

1005
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: running through my veins. It's what I want to do.

1006
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm about to get in a van and drive fourteen

1007
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: hours to Iowa and play a show tomorrow night, and

1008
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: play four more shows this weekend. I will probably break even,

1009
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: maybe lose a little bit of money. Um, but the

1010
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: opportunity is a great opportunity. A lot of money talked

1011
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: to about. But I love it and I don't love

1012
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: it as a hobby. I love it because it's the

1013
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: only thing that I want to do and the only

1014
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: thing that I can do. So, okay, you're out playing,

1015
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: Like are you trying to make music? I like the

1016
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: process of making music so you can get a record deal?

1017
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: Like what what? What is that? Like? How do you

1018
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: do it? What do you what do you do? What

1019
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: do you do? I don't know. Yeah, it's it's different

1020
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: for everybody. Everybody has a different path. Um. Some people

1021
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: it's who they know. Some people it's how they're already

1022
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: connected or whatever. And I think it is a big

1023
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: mixture of everything, but it's listening to those people that

1024
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: are closest to you and that are putting their lives

1025
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: out on the line for you and sticking their neck

1026
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: out for you. And that advice and that support and

1027
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: encouragement is everything in the process. And so when you're

1028
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: in the riding room, you've got to think about You've

1029
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: got to always be yourself and you know you can't

1030
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: fake real. And so whenever I go into the riding room,

1031
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: whenever I get on stage, I'm gonna be me. I'll

1032
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: be goofy, I'll cry, I'll say some dumb stuff, but

1033
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna be me and be authentic. Like you said,

1034
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: do you still put your penis out? Do what? Do? What?

1035
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: Put your penis out on stage? I mean you have

1036
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: to do what you do, like not from Martinez shows,

1037
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: but for like hip shows. Yeah, I mean America. Would

1038
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: you write American Way with So this is the funny thing.

1039
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: I didn't write American Way? What Kip? More so you

1040
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: and yours. It's like so I never I write basically

1041
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: every day and I love it and it's and it's

1042
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: what I do. But Nick Brophy, who I started working

1043
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: with production and all that kind of stuff. Nick also

1044
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: mixes and was his kid, and he's like, dude, you

1045
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: gotta check out this song, like Kip didn't put on

1046
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: his record. I wrote it with Kip and Brett James,

1047
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: who Brett James is a songwriting hero of mine. And

1048
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: I heard it. I was like, dude, that's a cool

1049
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: song man. And so when I left there, I was

1050
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: like whatever. For a week, I was like, no, no, nay,

1051
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: it was Lee Bow, just like you were doing were

1052
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: Leo Leo, we sleep some more. That's not how it goes.

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: That's always seeing it, um. But I was just I

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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: just kept thinking about I was like, listen, you know

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: that is this is That is the type of song

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: that I that I want to write and I want

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: to perform. So I probably tried to write that song

1058
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: five or six times and it didn't work. It was

1059
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: never the same as that, And so I asked Nick.

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00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, like, would it be cool

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00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: if I just put my vocal on it and maybe

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00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: just start playing it out just see how people react

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: to it? Was of course, and Kip was cool with it,

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Speaker 1: and so I did that and the reaction was incredible,

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: and so I kind of It kind of taught me

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00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: to step away from myself for a second. Is that

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: hard to take somebody's song? That song? And so you

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: I thought you wrote it? Thanks, And I interview some

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: people I'm careful about going, hey, I know you wrote

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: this song. I'm always like, hey, this song that you

1071
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: sing and that song and so you I thought you

1072
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: wrote I don't think twice about it. Well, thanks man,

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00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and that that was the goal because it

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00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: became so undeniable to me that I was like, man,

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: I I have to do something with this song, you know.

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00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: And so I did, and here we are. So what

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00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: about this other one here? That could be us? That

1078
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: could be us? Um? Right, this one? Thank you? I

1079
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: wrote it with a guy named Bobby's got a radio show.

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00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: This song is really good. This is that this song

1081
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: is good like thanks man. This is like it reminds

1082
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: me of like new age country Jack and Day and

1083
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: the first one, right, this is this is like a

1084
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: new age Jack and Diante. Man, this that could be us.

1085
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: This and like this the feels a little bit in

1086
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the current situation now that I have a girlfriend, I'm like,

1087
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: it makes you want to go get some flowers, maybe

1088
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: watch a rom Com. It's great that we have like

1089
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: three microphones in here. Mr Trump, what kind of music

1090
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: do you listen to? You know, I try to listen

1091
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: to what the world loves? Yeah, what what does the

1092
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: world love? Like? I mean that's a pretty vague statement,

1093
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: Mr Trump, Like you right for president? Like, I'm curious

1094
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: what kind of music in your iPhone? Mr? Trump? What

1095
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: do you listen to? A lot of spice girls? Yeah,

1096
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: and your favorite spice girl would be which one? Um,

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00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: baby baby Brandon Ray has been here with us, do

1098
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: good luck. I think you're at that place where it's

1099
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: like you're finding yourself right now. You're grinding and you're

1100
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: finding and I just see how good you are. And

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00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm anxious to kind see where you land because it's

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00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: cool because you're really freaking good. You're really good. And

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: if you ever come out, Brandon's playing with us. I'm

1104
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: trying to think. It's hard to get Brandon because he's

1105
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: all over the place. I know you're doing Albuquerquequerque, which

1106
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: sold down like three seconds. We're gonna like expand the theater.

1107
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you, Albuquerque's nuts. We're gonna have

1108
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: to break down some walls or something. Um, you just

1109
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: kick up. Ode just turned out to the festival and

1110
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: then we're playing Vegas again. So if you're in either

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00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: one of those places, or go to Brandon Ray that's

1112
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Twitter at Brandon Ray Music and go watch them for yourself.

1113
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, dudes, for real, I mean,

1114
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: anybody does things this song. Let's go cubs like I'm

1115
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: a cut fan and I'm a little insult here. You

1116
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: should be how bad that is? I need it? Actually

1117
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: did that bad at Brandon Ray Music. At Brandon Ray Music. Dude,

1118
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: good luck. I hope it goes great. You have a

1119
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: good trip, nice little road trip ahead of it. Thanks man.

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: We're taking the bus van van. Did you see my text?

1121
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the creepy van out hey got her? Ear

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01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: Ladies like I'm so sorry to me Early, I'm like,

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01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: you're here, Early, I have an erection. Early say, I

1124
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: don't even need a picture. That's um. Thank you and

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: good luck, my friend, good luck, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brandon Ray Music on Twitter and Instagram. Also

1127
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: thanks to Mr Trump for stopping by. I think you

1128
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: you know you've exceeded everyone's expectations. And when people hear

1129
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: this in a few weeks maybe your president. Oh no,

1130
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, okay, that's cool. Alright, we're gonna go.

1131
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Um yeah, you know, speaking here just to say I'm

1132
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: not full of crap. I did um. First of all,

1133
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I played Brandon stuff on the radio, so that just

1134
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: tells you already I think he's good. I don't just

1135
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: bring people on here. I don't think it's good. I

1136
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: was driving down the I was heading to Georgia with

1137
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: my band and it was seven thirty eight in the morning.

1138
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: We had it up and we were just like flipping

1139
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: out because like the feeling of hearing your song on

1140
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: the radio for the first time or anytime is surreal.

1141
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: And the fact that you did that, I can't I

1142
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough. Well, even like I've played covers

1143
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: of Beers on the air, and then I did. I think, well,

1144
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, these are the five artists that you

1145
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: don't know yet but you need to know. And it

1146
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: was you and Ryan be for a Walker heyes, and

1147
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: Caitlin Smith and Cody Johnson, Oh yeah, Cody Johnson Eastern Texas.

1148
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: Ryan is to ryan'son a Deer for the monent about

1149
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: r Ryan Bieber, So where the gym working out right,

1150
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Ryan and I both are, and so Ryan lived in

1151
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: Austin when I did. We moved here at the same time,

1152
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: and so we're you know, whenever he goes hey, I'm like, yeah,

1153
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: what's up. He goes, are you doing? I'm like, good,

1154
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: how are you doing? There's good. I don't put it

1155
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: together yet that it's Ryan because he's gonna work out

1156
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: closed and I had it and it's like, hey, I

1157
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: want I really appreciate you. I still don't know who

1158
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: it is. I don't even know that it's an artist.

1159
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I appreciate you too, man, you go, buddy,

1160
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate your spirit of working out as well my

1161
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: workout friend Champ. And so his trainer was like this

1162
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Biever. I was like, dude, I'm such a yours

1163
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: and like, we want to get Ryan up here too,

1164
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: and he's you know, and if you're listening, check out

1165
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: Ryan Biever that album that you're rated, Our Little Exit Prescription. Yeah,

1166
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. Every song I was I was signed with

1167
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: Ryan at a small publishing company. He just left there,

1168
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: but we were on that uh in that company for

1169
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: two years and all of those songs he wrote, you know,

1170
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: to three years ago, and so I would hear the

1171
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: work tapes, you know, the song if I had a

1172
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: Horse and all these kind of I had. I have

1173
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: the acoustic work tapes and I play him all the time.

1174
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: And the fact that he came out with a record

1175
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: like that, that just is incredible. Um he's he's you

1176
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: gotta check him out, yea, check out Ryan, check out

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01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: Brandon Ray. Just to leave you on a little song

1178
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: called American Way. And we were all week in a

1179
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: slop stag town to freaking weekend. Come. I'm throwing all

1180
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: him to y'all that it was baday baby, Ain't that

1181
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: the American Way? I'm gonna make you please, I want

1182
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: to see you put your hands off. Just got a

1183
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: black guy from a scup of wind Hank. I'm gonna

1184
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna go now because the cup started playing just now.

1185
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: We gotta go on. It's Game two. That's the theme song, man,

1186
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 1: and that's the rap. Episode sixteen with Brandon Ray at

1187
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: Brandon Ray Music. Thank you ol see episode seven Team

1188
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: We'll thank you Bay