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Speaker 1: All Right, Seats, Rising Up.

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Speaker 3: Timp you, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, take it over. Here's

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Speaker 3: And Ron Wolfley, it doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 4: Right, let's be honest. The race for best Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: Justin pe our guest, all right, so let's talk Cardinals.

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Speaker 8: I was at breakfast with and my wife the other

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Speaker 9: I'm like, all right, mist all right, mister Johnson, if

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Speaker 8: I'm here to. I mean, that starts making me think, like, man,

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Speaker 4: So if you're maniaso for it, Cardinals GM and head

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Speaker 8: It made a ton of sense. I think Paris Johnson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, justin what about those schemes that they reson the

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Speaker 8: I I really think you look at the draft as

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Speaker 8: a way to retool this defensive line. It's something that

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Speaker 8: I've talked about with Steve Kin, even when I was

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Speaker 8: on the team. They had it. They took a big

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Speaker 8: swing and they missed on on Robert Mdichi. They thought

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Speaker 8: that he was going to be that next Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 8: and he had he had some of the best get

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Speaker 8: off of any defensive lineman I've ever been around. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: it just didn't pan out, and we never had that

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Speaker 8: premiere interior rusher that struck any type of fear in

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Speaker 8: an offensive line. And I still look at this Arizona

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Speaker 8: Cardinals team like we need more on the defensive line.

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Speaker 8: I think last year we were ahead of maybe where

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Speaker 8: the plan would be. This is the season where the

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Speaker 8: Cardinals I think make the biggest jump, get over the hump,

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Speaker 8: get back into the playoffs, and I think it starts

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Speaker 8: with defensive line. Defensive line, defensive line. I love gard Deck,

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Speaker 8: I love David Collins or and start to like I said,

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Speaker 8: strike fear in the offense is when you play them.

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Speaker 8: Look at what you could do with just two draft

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Speaker 8: picks in LA with Jared Versu and Fisk, and how

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Speaker 8: that kind of change the narrative for the Rams. The

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Speaker 8: Cardinals had the ability to go out and do that

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Speaker 8: this year in the draft and in free agency.

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Speaker 1: So justin when you look at Trey McBride, I look

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Speaker 1: at that tight end and I see a tight end

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Speaker 1: that is on the line of scrimmage. I see a

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Speaker 1: tight end that you can move off. He can be

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Speaker 1: the move tight end as well. But what I love

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Speaker 1: most about Trey McBride is he can be a true

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Speaker 1: stud tight end. When you watch him play, what do

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Speaker 1: you see good?

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Speaker 8: I love Trey McBride does it all the dirty works.

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Speaker 8: He runs across the middle, he blocks. I mean I

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Speaker 8: talked about Tip earlier, but like you can leave tramc

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Speaker 8: bride out there an eleven personnel, which is three receivers

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Speaker 8: in one tight end, you can still run one back

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Speaker 8: power and he can hand then and he'll then release

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Speaker 8: and run by the starting safety. He is such a mismatch.

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Speaker 8: He's gonna be a guy that will be one of

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Speaker 8: the highest, if not the highest paid tight end in football.

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Speaker 8: And you're just happy he's on your team and not

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Speaker 8: on someone else's.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to believe. He just completed a

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Speaker 4: season where he had more catches in a campaign and

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Speaker 4: by the way in sixteen games than Larry Fitzgerald ever did.

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Speaker 4: He had won eleven the most Larry ever had one

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Speaker 4: O nine. We know Larry. Next year when it comes

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Speaker 4: time for the Hall of Famous, middle name is going

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Speaker 4: to be first ballot. And that's our setup to flashback

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Speaker 4: to an episode of The Big Red Rage, end of

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Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen season, and you were talking about fits

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Speaker 4: and what he means to teammates.

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Speaker 9: When you think of one of the best teammates we

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Speaker 9: ever played with, I think Larry Fitzgerald's there. He knows

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Speaker 9: everyone's kids' names, he knows what your dog's name is,

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Speaker 9: he knows what you had for breakfast, and it goes

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Speaker 9: down and it just goes to show you he takes

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Speaker 9: the time out to have a conversation me personally. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he helped me get trees for my house. Just landscaping needs.

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Speaker 9: Larry Fitzgerald does it all.

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Speaker 4: How are those trees doing. How are the trees doing

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Speaker 4: in the backyard.

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Speaker 8: They're actually doing great. And it's raining right now, which

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Speaker 8: is an anomaly in Arizona, so the trees are getting

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Speaker 8: a little water. I don't know if I call them

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Speaker 8: I Fitzgerald's trees, right so that's they're doing fit. The

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Speaker 8: two Fit brothers out alf front are doing great.

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Speaker 1: So justin what do you miss the most right now?

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Speaker 1: If you are going to be retired, if you are

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Speaker 1: officially going to retire, what are you going to miss

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Speaker 1: the most about the game?

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Speaker 8: Locker room? Well, I think I think you probably could

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Speaker 8: attest to that as well. When you're gone, you can

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Speaker 8: just walk back into the locker room and bs with

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Speaker 8: the guys and have jokes. And yeah, when I say

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Speaker 8: locker room, one of the things the most of the

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Speaker 8: locker room, and I'll missing I used to host O

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Speaker 8: line dinners every Thursday at my house, non negotiable. Everyone

515
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Speaker 8: came to them and we talked about anything other than football.

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Speaker 8: We would talk a little bit about practice, or we would,

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Speaker 8: you know, make fun of a coach that was giving

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Speaker 8: us a hard time, or maybe joke about a scheme.

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Speaker 8: But it was like, hey, let's talk about your family,

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Speaker 8: Let's talk about what you're passionate about. Let's get to

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Speaker 8: know one another. Because if you love playing with the

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Speaker 8: guys that you're with and there's that camaraderie and there's

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Speaker 8: that gel, you play harder and that's the difference when

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Speaker 8: they say, game of inches, It's like who's going to

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Speaker 8: stretch a little bit further, who is going to push

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Speaker 8: a little bit harder, Who's going to hold onto that block?

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Speaker 8: And if you love the guy you're playing next to

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Speaker 8: and your job impact that person's job, I'm gonna block

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Speaker 8: harder for DJ Humphries to make sure when we run

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Speaker 8: our duo, we run our double team blocks. Because I

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Speaker 8: know his daughter, I know his kids, I know his parents,

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Speaker 8: and my success is his success and vice versa. That's

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Speaker 8: what I'm gonna miss most about the game. That's what

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Speaker 8: I love the most about it. The competition is amazing.

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Speaker 8: I'll try to find them in other ways, but the

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Speaker 8: camaraderie is something that I'll miss the most.

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Speaker 4: Success is just gonna keep following you and your post

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Speaker 4: playing days. Justin Man. We appreciate every single moment of

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Speaker 4: folks are wondering what he's been up to lately. Once again,

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Speaker 4: go to YouTube and just search Justin Pew and you'll

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Speaker 4: find it. Justin Pew attends every Thursday night football game

542
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Speaker 4: to find the NFL's best fans. It's a great series

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Speaker 4: and we appreciate the time. Thanks Justin.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate a guy always fun talking to you guys.

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Speaker 4: We'll continue brother with a big red rage presented by

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Speaker 4: santan Ford and Gilbert right after this.

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Speaker 6: Oh love protein, so just always protein, man, It's the

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Speaker 6: number one thing. The more protein the better, So always

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Speaker 6: always more protein. Good little eighty grams here, so it

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Speaker 6: works great. I want to go to just like a

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Speaker 6: Stonemason and just be like you, just chopping me up

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Speaker 6: some natural rocks and just need a hundred pounder, one

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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty pounds, two hundred pounder and two and

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Speaker 6: fifty pounder and just put him outside his decorations. But

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Speaker 6: we all know what they're for, so to be super fun.

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Speaker 6: Just be the alpha on the street. Just carry on rocks.

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Speaker 1: Sounds sick.

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Speaker 4: That was part of a preseason press conference he held

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Speaker 4: during training camp. We had asked him about his home.

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Speaker 1: Jim.

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Speaker 4: He as in the garage, very proud of his home gym,

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Speaker 4: the Desert Viking yelled to Froholdt and officiato and enthusiast

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Speaker 4: of protein. As you heard right there. There are two

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Speaker 4: guys in this world I know of that actually own

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Speaker 4: their own Atlas stones. One would be yelled to frohold

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Speaker 4: Cardinals starting center the other would be your older brother,

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Speaker 4: Craig Wolfle, a former contestant in the World's Strongest Man competition,

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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley.

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Speaker 1: That's right, he's gonna go lift the Denny Stones over

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Speaker 1: in Scotland at some point.

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Speaker 4: That's to what degree was yelled to Froholdt. Maybe not

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Speaker 4: to us necessarily our Cardinals fan, especially in his second

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Speaker 4: year as Cardinals starting center, but around the league you

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Speaker 4: think he's a you know, underrated, maybe under the radar

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Speaker 4: a little bit. Just how good he is, you know,

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Speaker 4: how solid he's been as a Cardinals starting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good take, Paully. By you,

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Speaker 1: I really do, yell Defroholt is a guy who does

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Speaker 1: not get an awful lot of accolade. Yet at the

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Speaker 1: same time, if you watch him play, man, he is

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Speaker 1: rock solid. He is really really good. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's the best center in the National Football League, not

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Speaker 1: saying that, but man, he is a good center. You

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Speaker 1: go ahead and you watch him play. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing I love about him is not just his physicality

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Speaker 1: when you watch him play, but also it's his mentality.

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Speaker 1: I'm told PAULI that he rarely makes a mistake, rarely

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Speaker 1: as a mental.

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Speaker 4: Error, and as the quarterback of the offensive line, I mean,

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Speaker 4: give us a quick job description for those folks who

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Speaker 4: maybe aren't familiar. There's a lot more than just snapping

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Speaker 4: the ball and hitting the nose tackle right.

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Speaker 1: There's so much communication that goes on, and it really starts,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, with the center. There are some

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Speaker 1: offensive lines that have well established guards that will be

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Speaker 1: the guy that will also help a center or call

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Speaker 1: make the calls himself, as there are some guys who

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Speaker 1: actually do that, but for the most part, it's always

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Speaker 1: been the center. It's one of the prerequisites to playing

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Speaker 1: the position well. You have to be smart. Paul and

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Speaker 1: yell to Froholdt is definitely smart. He communicates as well,

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Speaker 1: and it's interesting because there are times where Yell de

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Speaker 1: Froholdt will actually tell Kyler Murray what kind of protection

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Speaker 1: to run.

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Speaker 4: And we remember that one glorious year with Rodney Hudson,

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Speaker 4: how valuable he was as an all Pro caliber center

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Speaker 4: and just how critical that is to any quarterback. All Right, So,

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Speaker 4: the one constant in the off season in the NFL

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Speaker 4: for any team any year is change. And the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: saw Clayton Adams get a promotion get named the offensive

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Speaker 4: coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys. That's a feather in his

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Speaker 4: cap and Jonathan Gannon assembling that staff. So now Justin

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Speaker 4: Frye comes in new offensive line coach. Garnered quite a

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Speaker 4: reputation as one of the best in the game in

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Speaker 4: Ohio State. He was there for three years, including during

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Speaker 4: the tenure the career of Paris Johnson Junior. So what

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Speaker 4: do you make of a new on line coach in

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Speaker 4: that room?

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Speaker 1: Wolf, Yeah, that's going to be really interesting to watch.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say quickly, Polly right now, just congratulations

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Speaker 1: of Clayton Adams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, what.

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Speaker 1: A big deal that is right there. Again, what a

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Speaker 1: feather in the cap for JG and his staff where

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Speaker 1: Clayton Adams is now an offensive coordinator, And you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's testament to the play of the offensive line for

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Once again last year. I know they

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Speaker 1: could have done better. I know they were banged up,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. But the Arizona Cardinals' ability

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Speaker 1: to run the ball garnered an awful lot of attention

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Clayton Adams. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to say that quickly Paully right off the top, and

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Speaker 1: right now, the offensive line room appears to be in

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Speaker 1: great hands with Justin Frye. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: say that is because he has been the offensive line

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Speaker 1: coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes and now he's stepping

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Speaker 1: into the National Football League where Paris Johnson Junior is

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Speaker 1: going to be there, and who knows who else might

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Speaker 1: actually be there after the draft, pall, who knows? Is

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Speaker 1: it possible the arizond Cardinals identify Josh Simmons and say,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna draft this guy

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Speaker 1: because not only can he play tackle, he can play

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Speaker 1: guard as well. He's got position position versatility right now,

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Speaker 1: and you know how this team values that.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Ohio State, Paris Johnson there he was his

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Speaker 4: second year in the league, after he had a rookie

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Speaker 4: season or right tackle where he played every single offensive

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Speaker 4: snap as a rookie, came back as a franchise left

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Speaker 4: tackle this year. And here's Jonathan Gannon late in the

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Speaker 4: season on his second season by Paris.

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Speaker 10: I thought he played well, you know, he switched positions.

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Speaker 10: You know, he keeps the quarterback up right and he

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Speaker 10: moves people in their und game, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: And he's smart and he's the character that you want.

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Speaker 10: And I think he's still as sending. I know he's

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Speaker 10: extremely motivated and disciplined and fired up to go into

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Speaker 10: this offseason. What he wants to work on and improve

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Speaker 10: that those aspects of his game that he wants to

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Speaker 10: take the next step. But very pleased where he's at,

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Speaker 10: and again I think that he's going to continue to improve.

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Speaker 4: We heard Justin Peugh a little earlier in this show

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Speaker 4: talk about how the Cardinals have set at left tackle

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Speaker 4: for the next decade. That's that's his opinion. Where else

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Speaker 4: yeld A Froholtz starting center. Jonah Williams, he's on the

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Speaker 4: comeback trail. You figure, at least right now you have

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Speaker 4: him penciled in is your right tackle. He's under contract.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about those two guard positions. Will Hernandez obviously

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Speaker 4: a premier name who's pending to be a free agent. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then Evan Brown he had a one year deal.

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Speaker 4: He started the entire season of left guard. So what

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Speaker 4: do you make of the interior line right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, you know, there's some very interesting things going

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Speaker 1: on right now once again, Will Hernandez. He's got to

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Speaker 1: recover from that ACL. I wonder if Will Hernandez might

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Speaker 1: be better served if you flip them over and let

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Speaker 1: him play left guard. Let him play on the left

677
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Speaker 1: side coming back. But boy, do I want to sign

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez. I don't know about you, Bwi. I mean, boy,

679
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Speaker 1: if you could get him. You know, unfortunately for him,

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Speaker 1: his injury came at a very bad time for him

681
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Speaker 1: in terms of free agency and getting paid by somebody else.

682
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Speaker 1: But right now, that's something that I think will benefit

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals if they can sign Will Hernandez. You

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Speaker 1: know what, Paul, if there was one free agent signing

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Speaker 1: that I'd love to see Manti asen Ford here in

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Speaker 1: year three, year three. We know Mony's not big on

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Speaker 1: free agency. Ball, He's not. He's bigger on the draft

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Speaker 1: than he is free agency. Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 4: Ball in facts as a kid saying yes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, So maybe a Trey Smith. Do you go

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Speaker 1: ahead and just say, you know what, Trey Smith, the

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Speaker 1: guard for the Kansas City Chiefs. We're gonna break the

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Speaker 1: bank on this one right here, if in fact he

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Speaker 1: is a free agent, because they have a franchise tag

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Speaker 1: as well. But Trey Smith, if he hits the market,

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Speaker 1: if we splurged on one position, that would be the

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Speaker 1: guide want.

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Speaker 4: And there are like a half dozen free agent guards

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Speaker 4: who are gonna be out there. I was coming through

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Speaker 4: it the other day, so I'm guessing it's on the radar.

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Speaker 4: We'll see. If not, it's definitely feasible, possible, plausible. The

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Speaker 4: Cardinals at number sixteen overall, invest in a guard you

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Speaker 4: can plug and play for the next decade. I think

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Speaker 4: that would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 6: Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's just a return to the run game period.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Go back to Clayton Adams. You know, if you're Dallas,

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Speaker 4: what did you fail to do last year? Among a

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Speaker 4: lot of things, but first and foremost on offense, you

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Speaker 4: couldn't run the ball. Indeed, look at the Cardinals last

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Speaker 4: two years, both year's top ten in rushing number two

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Speaker 4: each of the last two years in yards per carry. Yes,

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Speaker 4: so Clayton Adams is able to list that on his resume. Boom,

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Speaker 4: Dallas is really interested. Look at the Seattle Seahawks. They

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Speaker 4: just can Ryan Grubb after his first year, why they

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Speaker 4: finished twenty eighth in rushing. They bring in Clint Kubiak

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Speaker 4: and what's he talking about. We're gonna run Kenneth Walker,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna run Zach Charbonay. So it just seems to

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Speaker 4: be this trend in the league right now.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Paul am with you on this listen. You know,

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Speaker 1: I talk about the pendulum all the time and the

723
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Speaker 1: way that it keeps swinging back more towards the middle,

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Speaker 1: being a lot more balanced the traditional schemes being run

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Speaker 1: with the new schemes right now. But once again, you

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Speaker 1: need three guards because you know one of them is

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Speaker 1: going to go down at some point in time, whether

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Speaker 1: it's just two weeks or two months, at some point

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Speaker 1: in time, guards will go down. Will Hernandez is one

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Speaker 1: of those guys right here. But I also wanted to

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Speaker 1: point out Isaiah Adams Dings PAULI. Isaiah Adams kind of

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Speaker 1: in a very quiet way, really asserted himself at the

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Speaker 1: end of last season and got a lot more reps,

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Speaker 1: got that experience and oh, by the way, look pretty

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Speaker 1: good doing it.

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Speaker 4: And he got stronger during the year. He spends the

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Speaker 4: off season in the squad rack.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he is your sleeper. You're right.

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Speaker 4: We continue the big red rage, resented by santan Ford

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Speaker 4: and Gilbert Back.

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Speaker 11: Right after this, it's a third and sixteen for the

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Speaker 11: Chiefs and the shotgunsnap.

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Speaker 3: From their own twenty four rolling out of the pocket.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes wines rap.

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Speaker 11: It's intercepting at the forty They picked up by the

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Speaker 11: gene that comes to the near side of the thirty.

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Speaker 3: Got a back of the truning break to.

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Speaker 11: Tackle the ten to five to the pylon touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He goes at got brick six.

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Speaker 11: A thirty seven yard pick six of Patrick Mahomes first

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Speaker 11: and ten. The shotguns snap that they hand up and

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Speaker 11: Hurt drops back five winds up whole launching.

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Speaker 3: Pass down the middle gets caught over the shoulder in

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Speaker 3: the end time touchdown. Smith and thin Man make it insurmountable.

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Speaker 1: It's over.

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Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles have won Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 11: They have pat the Kansas City Chiefs forty to twenty two.

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Speaker 3: It's their second Super Bowl win in seven years.

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Speaker 1: What a game? Want to see?

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Speaker 4: Won a team the greatest Eagles team in modern history?

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Speaker 4: Eagles fans savlets.

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Speaker 3: And wait your choice.

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Speaker 4: That is Merril Reese. Eagles Radio preseed by Kevin Harland

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Speaker 4: on Westwood One and America, thanks Eagles for putting a

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Speaker 4: stop to Kansas City's three p There is one downside, though,

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Speaker 4: if I may offer the following opinion, we're already hearing

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Speaker 4: the new moniker NFC beast as in the division, because

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Speaker 4: the NFC East, here's your stinking stat is the only

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Speaker 4: division where every team has won at least two Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl titles. No other division even has all four teams

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Speaker 4: winning even one super Bowl. Because you have five by Dallas,

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Speaker 4: four by the Giants, three by Washington, now two by Philly.

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Speaker 4: So that is far more than any other division combined.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say, Paul, if the shoe fits, wear it.

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Speaker 4: So okay, let's talk takeaways, let's talk You know, the

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Speaker 4: NFL it's a copycat league. What is some of the

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Speaker 4: best practices you saw out of an Eagles team that

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Speaker 4: is young? They are loaded. Yes, they have some offseason questions,

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Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it, but they have a defense.

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Speaker 4: We gave a lot of love to Jalen Hurts and

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Speaker 4: Saquon Barkley deservedly so, but Wolf, how about an Eagles

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Speaker 4: defense six sacks, eleven quarterback hits, and sixteen quarterback pressures.

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Speaker 1: Pauly, it's amazing. That's where you got to start when

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Speaker 1: you talk about Super Bowl fifty nine and what happened

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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty nine, you have to start on

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it's so integral to the Philadelphia Eagles to

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Speaker 1: actually line up and run the ball. That's what they

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Speaker 1: do offensively, and they did that even though Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 1: was getting stuffed for the most part, it's longest run

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Speaker 1: in the game was ten yards. Twenty five carries for

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Speaker 1: fifty seven yards. They continued to run the ball. Now

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Speaker 1: they had a lead. Granted they had a lead, but

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Speaker 1: they continued to run the ball. And one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why they were doing that is because Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: needs to be in that kind of offense right there.

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Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts is always going to be the fulcrum

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Speaker 1: point of this game. To me, I said as much.

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Speaker 1: I talked about it on the radio often. He was

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Speaker 1: going to be the fulcrum bully, the tipping point as

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Speaker 1: to whether or not the Eagles were going to win

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Speaker 1: this game or not. If he went out there and

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Speaker 1: didn't protect the ball boy, it was going to be

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Speaker 1: a long day, I thought for the Philadelphia Eagles, but

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts went out there. Not only did he protect

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Speaker 1: the ball, I realized he threw a pick and it

807
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Speaker 1: wasn't a great pick, There's no doubt about that. But

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was the difference in this game. He got

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Speaker 1: protection in the pocket. Pat Mahomes did not get protection.

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Speaker 1: Flip it over look at the line of scrimmage. A

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Speaker 1: four man rush against Pat Mahomes rush for drop seven,

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Speaker 1: the exact same formula that the New York Giants used

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Speaker 1: to beat Tom Brady. That's exactly what they did to

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to beat those elite quarterbacks, beat them up,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what they did. And you know, if

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Speaker 4: you drill a little deeper in next gen stats, did

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Speaker 4: they said Philly played zone coverage and all but two

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Speaker 4: dropbacks their pressure rate exceeded Pat mahomes completion percentage in

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Speaker 4: the first half. Right, and then you're Justin Pugh, they

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Speaker 4: didn't blitz once across forty two dropbacks by Mahomes. Even

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Speaker 4: Justin Pugh said he's never seen that before. So it

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Speaker 4: just powys to the ability to get home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Paully. What he was also talking about was

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's never seen a game where you

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Speaker 1: didn't bring five, right, five, which is pressure. I can't

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Speaker 1: call it a blitz. I can't do it, Paully. Six

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Speaker 1: to me or more, that was always a blitz to me.

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Speaker 1: You know what, where you can bring one more guy

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Speaker 1: than you've got offensive linemen, that to me is a blitz.

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Speaker 1: But bringing five has always been pressure. You just didn't

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Speaker 1: know which five were gonna come, but you knew they

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Speaker 1: were gonna bring five on a lot of third downs.

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Speaker 1: Not what the Eagles did. They lined up and rushed

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Speaker 1: four and drop seven. Man, it was incredible to see

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Speaker 1: the pressure they were able to get on Pat Mahomes. Paully,

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Speaker 1: have you ever seen Pat Mahomes rattled? Never? He looked

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Speaker 1: rattled to me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, no doubt, no doubt. He didn't have any answers.

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Speaker 4: He was looking more at the pass rush than he

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Speaker 4: was downfielders receivers. You're absolutely right. And at the end

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Speaker 4: of the game Eagles were hoisting the Lombardi Jalen Hurts

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00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: had the Most Valuable Player trophy and here he is

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Speaker 4: after the game on his journey to the Super Bowl title.

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Speaker 5: That same kid that went to national championship and lost

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Speaker 5: and went back and got benched and had to transfer

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Speaker 5: and had to go through this just unprecedented journey. And

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Speaker 5: that kid always kept the main thing, the main thing,

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Speaker 5: and I always was true to his vision and what

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Speaker 5: he saw.

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Speaker 4: To me, it was his decision making as well. And

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Speaker 4: as I watched them, and Okay, this is going to

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Speaker 4: be a bit of a stretch, just because the Eagles

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00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: have such an elite defense and that was an absolute clinic,

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Speaker 4: but they reminded me of the formula, the way they

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Speaker 4: were playing and the way they were beating Kansas City,

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Speaker 4: the way the Cardinals were playing leading up to the bye. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: only three interceptions by Kyler in those ten games. Cardinals

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00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: were six and four. They were a top five run team.

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Speaker 4: They were playing good enough defense to stay in every

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Speaker 4: single game virtually. There are a couple exceptions Washington for example. Yes,

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Speaker 4: but to me, and then all of a sudden, something

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Speaker 4: changed after the buye for the Cardinals, namely the turnovers

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Speaker 4: and the two games where they won the turnover battle,

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Speaker 4: guess what, they won the game. The other five they

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Speaker 4: did not, and they lost.

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Speaker 1: And Paulie not only that too, the Philadelphia Eagles. Did

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Speaker 1: they have a dual threat quarterback? Yep, they had a

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Speaker 1: dual thread quarterback Jalen Hurts. Eleven carries for seventy two

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Speaker 1: yards in the Super Bowl and a touchdown. How many

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Speaker 1: times you saw Jalen Hurts pull the ball down and

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Speaker 1: convert with his legs? That that, to me was something

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Speaker 1: that I thought was similar as well. The offensive line

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Speaker 1: for the Eagles very very physical in this games. They

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Speaker 1: used to run the ball, very physical, very the same

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Speaker 1: thing is what the Arizona Cardinals had before that offensive

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Speaker 1: line lost Will Hernandez. That was a very very physical

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Speaker 1: front as well. And I think Paula going forward, it's

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Speaker 1: only going to get more physical for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: That offensive line is only going to get even more

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Speaker 1: physical and bigger at the point of attack. We'll see

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Speaker 1: where that leads.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to shout out real quick the two rookie

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Speaker 4: corners Quinnan Mitchell and Cooper de jen and he obviously

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Speaker 4: could have been a candidate for Super Bowl MVP. Think

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Speaker 4: about early in round two of the draft last year,

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Speaker 4: Wolf at number forty, Cooper de Jan forty one, kool

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Speaker 4: Aid McKinstry forty two, Kamari Laster had a great year

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Speaker 4: for Houston, then Max Melton forty three. If I'm Max

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Speaker 4: Melton and I'm watching those two Eagles rookie corners, that

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Speaker 4: is fueled the fire of this offseason. That is my motivation.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I thought Max Melton played really

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Speaker 4: well in December and January. I thought he was an

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Speaker 4: ascending rookie at the end of last season.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good observation by you, Paul right there.

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Speaker 1: And also too, you saw how much zone they were

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Speaker 1: playing with Vic Fangio as well. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are no stranger to zone coverage as well.

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Speaker 1: And you got to find those guys that actually play

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Speaker 1: well in his zone room. And the Cardinals have some

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Speaker 1: really really good young corners that are developing right now.

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Speaker 1: And not only that too, but Garrett Williams, who you

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Speaker 1: can actually move around. He can play the nickel, he

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Speaker 1: can play outside, he can play safety, and did play safety,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of cover two deep looks there was

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Speaker 1: Garrett Williams. So it's going to be really interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what the Cardinals doing. What Monti assen Fort focuses

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Speaker 1: on during the draft, And.

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Speaker 4: How much better are the Cardinals corners if they get

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Speaker 4: this sort of pass rush that the Eagles corners enjoyed

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Speaker 4: right this year behind that Eagles run. And I bring

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Speaker 4: that up because we mentioned the NFL combine three hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty nine players invited. Did you see the suite

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Speaker 4: from Daniel Jeremiah, NFL network analyst where he put out

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Speaker 4: just a couple of days ago. Quote last year, at

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Speaker 4: this time, I had potential starter grades on twelve incoming

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Speaker 4: defensive tackles. This year, I have twenty four starting grades.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't see that, Paul oh Man.

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Speaker 4: He said, there's quote sick, a ridiculous amount of depth

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Speaker 4: at the D line position in this draft class. So

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Speaker 4: when you see the latest mock draft they came out

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Speaker 4: today in NFL dot Com, and there's five a day

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Speaker 4: every day, I get it. But they have the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: trading down from sixteen to twenty two, getting an extra

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Speaker 4: round three and round four pick, and then taking Michigan

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Speaker 4: defensive tackle Kenneth Grant. Okay, I could see that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: MANI has a reputation of trading down maximizing picks. I

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Speaker 4: could see that.

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Speaker 1: Well, little advice of the guys that are going to

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Speaker 1: the combine if they take in a room right there

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Speaker 1: and they got two doors in a room and they

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Speaker 1: tell you, well, you know what's stripped down to your

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Speaker 1: jock boys wealth. Just do it. Everything's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Trust me on that.

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Speaker 4: You still having flashbacks to yours your days, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Paul Okay on that mic drop by Ron Wolfley. We'll

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Speaker 4: pass along special banks to Justin Peugh once again for

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Speaker 4: joining us. Executive producer Jim Amhundro, Associate producer Cody Fincher

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Speaker 4: for Technical director Ali Narini. Ron Wolfley on Paul KELVC.

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