WEBVTT - Mashonda Talks "Positive Distraction", Returning To Music, Reseting Energy + More 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.480 Morning. Everybody is stech Envy and Ngela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:06.280 We are to Breakfast club. We got a special guests 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:13.600 in the Belding Strange of Danger. Hi, welcome back. We 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.319 haven't seen you. Twenty No twenty eighteen when the book 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.600 came out. Ye, how are you remember? I'm great, energy, amazing, Okay, okay, 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.400 I think you know. I think my energy is always amazing. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.680 You know, I'm pretty steady. You set your affirmations in 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.680 the morning always. Ye, well this morning, um, I think 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.639 the first the first thing I said to myself when 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.600 I woke up was it's going to be a beautiful day, okay. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.960 And you feel great absolutely, even with the rain and everything. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.320 And I love the rain because living in San Diego 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.640 now we don't get any rain. Why San Diego. It's 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.279 just gorgeous. I know. But like, what was the connection? 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.240 Because you know, we live here. I've lived here my 0:00:55.280 --> 0:01:00.600 whole life. Um, twenty twenty happened. My grandmother who raised me, 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.200 one of the closest people in my life, passed away 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:06.640 in twenty twenty and yeah, and she was the main 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.520 reason why I stayed here so long, because I was 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.440 taking care of her. My son's father moved out to 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:18.319 San Diego in twenty nineteen and he struggled. My son 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.600 struggled with it a lot, and I right though, you know, 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.839 he lost that connection. It was a weekly thing. So 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.319 I haven't wanting to move to LA for years, but 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:35.040 I stayed because of my grandmother. And when everything happened, 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:40.399 I went out to San Diego, spent a month and 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:41.880 fell in love. I was like, I don't want to 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.640 live in LA. I'm gonna live here. It's like nature everywhere, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.840 and it ended up working out. Yeah, reignited your love 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.320 for music too. Yeah, Okay, I definitely think that had 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.520 that setting had a lot to do with it, you know, 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:00.920 really emerging back into it, and your son had a 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.240 lot to do with it also, a hundred percent influence 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.880 on everything. So totally, can you tell us why you've 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.120 put out an EP? It's been how long since your 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.640 last God January Joy came out in two thousand and five. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.920 Jesus Christ seventeen years later. So it wasn't I know 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:18.760 you did. It wasn't that you didn't had a lack 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.160 of love for music. Wasn't the industry more than industry? Right? Absolutely? 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:28.519 The industry. Um, you know, I felt a little misplaced 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:33.399 and a little unwelcomed, and you know, even blackballed, would 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.120 you say, goes up? Yeah, a little bit. You know, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.919 I heard things here and there. People felt like they 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.040 had to choose sides. I still feel like a lot 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.320 of people do feel that way, and I get it, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.600 you know, I know people never got that though, yeah 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.600 oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. That must 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.000 have been on them because I've never felt like, well 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.480 I never thought that. I've never felt that from me 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:03.520 that club at all. But you'd be surprised, totally, totally, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.960 and um, you know, it was a little discouraging. And 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.080 as much as I love music, I've been doing music 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.600 way before I met my ex, you know. So it 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.200 was me and my son came in the room and 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.680 last year in November and he said, my your viral 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.120 on TikTok and I was like, what does that mean? 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:30.320 You know, and uh, you know what's going on? Pretty much, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.000 I've been in a bubble. I was never on TikTok 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.800 until he told me this. Somebody said up here and said, 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.280 you're Charlomagne, you're your your sound on TikTok. Your sounds 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.880 going what are you talking about? Right? And it was 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.680 a record that I did in two thousand and three, 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.160 a freestyle I did over a Bust to Rhymes joint, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.480 The Honey I See you had like millions and millions 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.640 and millions of interactions worldwide, and I was like, Okay, 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.800 well maybe this is a sign. No, maybe I need 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.760 to really get back into it, especially now that this 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.160 generation knows my voice. So um, I did just that, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.400 you know, And I created a body of work that 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:13.960 I love and it's art. You know, It's not a 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:20.159 traditional album. It's it's from beginning to end a story 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:25.279 and love and my transformation. I don't always use the 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:31.200 word healing because I feel like it's more of a transformation, um, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.800 and just the ups and downs of love. And you 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:38.200 did some visuals with it, a lot of energy with 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.880 the interacting with you when you're a main leading man. Yes, 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:45.200 because I wanted to. I wanted to create a visual 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.400 that was refreshing compared to what's happening now in visuals 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.280 where it's you know, I don't feel like I don't 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.360 feel like we're showing love and romance and what that 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.279 looks like anymore. I feel like it's almost like a 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.599 dying art. People even know what that it is anymore. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.400 This is what I'm saying. So I wanted to take 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.160 it back to what that looks like, like having an 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.280 argument with the person you're in love with, but then 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:11.599 coming back together, not canceling him, you know. So that's 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.040 what Complicated is all about. Pick the beats and help 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:20.360 you produce, and not at all. He want nothing to 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.640 do with it. You know, he has his own genre 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:28.599 of music. No, you know, he's like, when I do 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.720 make something that he can relate to, he's like, yeah, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.640 this one's good. Otherwise to him, it's like old people music, 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:40.680 you know him, and he loves it. Okay, he loves it. Yeah, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.480 what is the God's plan affirmation? So the God's plan affirmation? 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.279 My grandmother always used to say, put everything in God's hands. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.240 So at the end, um, that's what I say. I said, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.120 it's God's plan and It's in God's hands. And that 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:01.680 one starts with waking up and blessing the day, and 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.600 I say, I want to start. I want to start 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.400 my blessing. I want to thank my day with you. 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.760 So I'm speaking to the person listening. I want to 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.320 count my blessings starting with you. So that's to let 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.560 you know you are a blessing, right. So it's interactive 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:21.359 the music and the affirmations because I want people to 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.920 really I feel like our culture sometimes we have a 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.960 hard time understanding how to even get into meditating. I 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.400 have a lot of people ask me, well, how do 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.440 you meditate? What is an affirmation? So I wanted to 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.960 incorporate that into the EP, just to give people a 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.840 small idea of how to get started. And I did 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:45.159 it over a very relatable kind of deed. So you 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:47.719 work with a lot of people in this industry, did 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.680 you reach out to any of them during this project? 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.200 And some of them say, now, I'm not effort with 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.120 you as everybody can with open arms. I didn't want 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.359 to work with anyone in the industry, so I worked 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:05.320 with two new young producers, Lenicia Nelson, who's an amazing 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:12.760 vocalist and songwriter, engineer, and Quan Keys, who is a 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.200 sick producer. He's a church guy. And I wanted to 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:20.720 work with new, fresh, you know, undiscovered talent. I don't 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.000 really want to put anybody in a situation where it 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.800 was like, all right, let me make sure it's okay, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:29.120 you know, so I just did my own thing. That 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.000 probably helps to create a trauma free album too, absolutely, 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:36.400 because you're not bringing no old triggers and you know 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.360 certain things like you know, I like the song Runaway, Yes, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.680 And the story behind that song in particular, I think 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.320 is interesting because it can be such a relief when 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.120 you're like in a bad situation and you get out 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:54.120 of it. Baby, it is freedom, right, it's runaway. Runaway 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.720 is just about walking away from a situation before it 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.880 gets out of hand, like knowing when to respect the 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:05.440 red flags, you know, And I think sometimes we prolong 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.720 things that don't feel good because we're comfortable in there. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.560 Or someone said, you know, the sex might be good 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.600 and we don't want to part ways with that. Why 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.200 did you say? Someone said, because when we had have 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.280 you ever stayed with somebody too long because the sex 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:29.840 is great? Noo quick? That's never been Like, what is 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.640 the leading factor? What is the red flags? For Maschanda? 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.439 Red flags for me now are definitely communication, you know, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.240 if we can't be transparent and consistency. I love consistency. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.360 So it's like those two things have so much to 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.920 do with like your foundation and what's what's what it's 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.440 leading up to UM, so I look out for that. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:04.360 Dating is interesting. Dating can be ghetto ghetto, you know, 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:12.680 if you're thinking McDonald's thinking about dating, you know versus 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.800 mister Chowers when the friends are good and had exactly 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.120 mean ghetto. You know. I just feel like people get 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:27.760 into these interactions and relationships and they're not emotionally ready, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.520 not mentally ready, and then they just come in with 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:35.240 all their stuff and kind of like project onto you. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:40.480 And it's like, this is not what I signed up for. UM. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.600 And you know, a lot of younger guys have been 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.400 coming my way and I'm like, I don't know if 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.000 we can, if we can said that too when she 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.960 was up here last Yeah, and they're so like bold 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.760 and intense about it, like met you in person both. 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.719 Do you like the boldness? I like, yeah, I do 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.280 like when you know people know what they want and 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:06.760 they are showing you that they're very serious about it. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.760 But it's just interesting because I'm just it. But these 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.480 younger guys do. They are pretty more, pretty mature compared 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.600 to I guess ten years ago what a younger guy was. UM. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.280 But it's been interesting because at first I was like, well, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.959 what do we have, what do we even have in common? 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:30.360 What are we going to talk about? But I don't know. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.000 You know, I don't want to say that I would 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.600 never date. And when I say younger, I'm talking like 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.240 twenty eight to thirty one. Okay, it's pretty young. What's 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.880 the wildest date you've been on that a younger man 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:43.600 is taking you on? What did y'all go? What did 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.400 y'all do? I I can't even think. I want to 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.400 know the ghetto one that you said ghettocause something popped 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.760 in your mind when you said ghetto. McDonald lake that ghetto, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.319 especially if you high as hell and y'all leave y'all 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.360 y'all coming back from somewhere and get them hot fries 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.040 late at night. I'm not talking about ghetto in a 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:04.520 sense of form, like physical ghetto. I'm talking about like 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.760 the interaction itself, you know. But people don't call anymore. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.920 Sometimes they just only text you, or they FaceTime you 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.840 with no notice. I don't like that, fatime. I don't 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.640 do it. Yeah, I don't really answer. We have to 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.040 we have to plan a FaceTime, like, hey, are you busy? 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:25.160 Is it okay? Here to FaceTime? Right? Right? Well? What 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.760 did you feel what did you feel you needed to 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.360 tell yourself when you name the album note this Self. So, 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.400 I'm the type of person I'm always if something comes 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.880 to mind, I'm always writing it down, doing voice notes. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.240 I'm journaling um and I think and I've noticed that 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.280 when I don't do that, I forget what that moment 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:48.320 of like oh wow. So I think everybody should start 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.120 writing things down, those those moments where you like connect 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.800 the dots in your head like that happens because of this. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.599 You know, it's always like something in the past that 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:04.480 kind of triggers something in the present. So for me, 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:08.120 Note to Self is really it's an accounting. It's a 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:13.120 document of everything that I've I feel like I've survived 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.560 and made it through. And it not only survived and 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.040 made it through, but I'm able to take the lessons 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.960 from it. You know, I haven't forgotten the lessons. Let's 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.520 talk about this song positive distraction for a second, because 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.240 sometimes you're like, Okay, you know, there's a lot going 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.320 on and I just need something to make me feel 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.280 good and feel happy. Are you okay with dating somebody 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.439 who you know maybe there's no future with, but they 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.920 are a positive distraction? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I feel like 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.800 everybody needs that. But that's also a conversation. You don't 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.160 want to lead somebody on. You know. It's like we 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.079 come together, we have a good time, and then it's okay, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.600 we can part ways and pick up right where we 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.880 left off from the last time. Yeah, you're doing this 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.760 all on your own. This album is independent or super independent, produce, 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.520 direct your own videos, everything. So what makes this successful 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.440 to you? What's what's in a success The fact that 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.160 it's done and out, the fact that I did it, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:14.080 you know, the fact that I worked, put my money 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:18.120 into it. I didn't ask anybody for anything. I paid 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.240 everybody that helped me. I don't owe anybody any money, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.960 gay right. I feel like I also created opportunities for 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.520 creatives to come in and show what they can do, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.439 even the artwork, down to the artwork, down to every font, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:41.079 you know, all the small details. It feels really good 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.840 to to create a body of work and then release 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.120 it and know that you pretty much did it on 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.840 your own. One thing I always give you credit for 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.240 it is artwork, Like as far as you care, rating 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.840 these art shows, helping these young artists, but also helping 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.480 people get their collection up because Massonda send me like 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.600 pictures like this would be great for you or this artist. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.320 She's a young black girl from Brooklyn, and I think 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.080 you should get this piece of work because she really 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.880 wants to sell it to somebody that you know, somebody 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.880 like you. And so she does always hit me up 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.679 about things like that. And so can you talk about 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.720 your love of art because this is something you were 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.200 doing for a long time. I remember you had did 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.200 the book release. I think it was the book release 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.760 at Donna Carn's place, Donna Carren's house. It was amazing 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.280 by the way. I was like, what is this? But 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.080 even just being into artwork, where did that come from? 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.800 I've been a collector for the past twenty five years. 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.760 That sounds old as though, but I've always collected art 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:44.880 and I've always supported artists. So it's just a part 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.440 of who I am. But I started Art Leader in 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.680 twenty sixteen because I wanted to create a platform to 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.000 give women an art more of an opportunity to show 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.840 their work and to sell their work. So I do 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:05.040 exhibition curate you know, galleries, and I'm getting ready to 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.560 do a couple of museum shows. And for me, it's 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:14.000 all about having people of color collect people of color, 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.840 you know. So when I connect Angela with an artist, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.320 an emerging artist that I know is doing what they 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.480 need to do to take their career to the next level, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.000 I know that I'm not only helping Angela, but I'm 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:33.240 also helping the artists. And music and art, you know, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:38.040 it collides. It's it's pretty much the industries are almost alike, 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.480 and the artists they need the same kind of support 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.800 as musicians do. For people who want to collect art, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.840 how do you determine? Because people always ask me that, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.360 like if they come to my house and they see 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:51.560 what I have and they're like, what made you decide 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.240 to buy that? And for me, it's just a feeling 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.880 that I get if I see something, if it evokes 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.520 any type of emotion in me, if it makes me 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.400 think of something, if I think it's just beautiful. What 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:02.400 for you would you tell people who want to start 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.560 collecting art, how do they go about getting their collection going? 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.520 I think the first thing is to make sure you 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.920 buy art that you if you have children, that you 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.800 want your children to grow up looking at, you know, 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.680 and something that that's gonna that's gonna because it becomes 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.840 a part of your psyche. Like you you wake up, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.680 you see it, you go to sleep, you see it. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.560 So make sure that you love what you're looking at. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.240 Don't just get into it for an investment, even though 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.200 it can be a great investment. But definitely buy work 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.360 that you love. And I think that's what you're so 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.560 you're so good at How can you tell me some 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:40.760 things that a good investment? People ask me that all 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.440 the time too, because I'm like, I don't really know. No, 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.040 you just buy art because you love it, which is great, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.880 you're like a real collector. But the I mean, once 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:53.320 you're involved in the marketplace and you it's like stocks 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.440 and bonds, right, you check the market. You can see 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.520 what art is going up, what's selling it auction um, 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.679 the price points, who's in museums, who who's with a 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.760 good gallery. These are all ways that you can tell 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.560 if an artist is going to be a quote unquote 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.680 good investment. Let's go back to your other art of music, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.200 because you said this album is described as a healthy, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:21.080 realistic outlook on relationships. But then this first thing is 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:25.399 called complicated because that's real life, so complicated relationships can 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.720 be healthy, Yes, okay, because you got to learn from it. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.560 The thing is a relationship that's not complicated, right, Every 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:35.119 human relationship, relationships with self is complic human and complicated. Yea, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:42.159 so comic Tackling that conversation is super healthy. Have you 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.679 seen the video I'm not Oh? Is that the one 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:51.840 where you and the guy all over each other? There 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:55.560 are moments where we're fighting, but that's like for me, 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.600 that video is the perfect example of a complicated relationship. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.760 How do you argue? I always think it's important in 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.159 relationships that because you are at times not going to 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.840 get along, and I do feel like your style of 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.880 arguing and how you guys communicate during that time is important. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:16.960 How do I argue, I'm not. Do I sound like ill? No, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:25.359 I'm more like However, I argue it works because I 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:31.399 and I don't want to say firm down, super firm. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:36.320 I don't shut down because I do believe in communication. Um, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.520 but I do have a way of checking people. You're laughing, 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.879 what are you laughing? On your mind? I'm laughing because 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.960 I'm thinking of reactions. And I do have a good 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.080 because I pay close attention to everything, every detail. I'm 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.879 paying attention to you when you don't even think I am. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.600 So when when it gets to the point of arguing, 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:01.560 I'm gonna call you out on things that you did 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:11.560 not think. So you're an attorney pretty much, so January ninth, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.919 I'm going to call you out on things that you 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.359 had no idea I even paid attention to because I 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.880 didn't say shit about it before. Is that healthy though? 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.160 Because how to bring things up? And you're like, why 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.320 didn't you bring it up when it happened? Because sometimes 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:31.440 because sometimes it's not because you know why. I don't 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.760 ever want to be that person that's coming across as 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:41.800 the mother or the corrector or a judge. So I'm 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.520 not going to correct a grown person every time I 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:49.120 see them doing something that I don't agree with. I don't. 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.800 I don't think that's healthy because that's not my child, 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.520 you know so, But I I'm gonna pay attention Like 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.920 those are the red flags we'll bother you the most 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.359 in a relationship with whether you're dating somebody but you 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.880 something that you can't stand, whether it's I don't know 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:12.000 time or is it you said, lack of consistency, lack 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.480 of communication, lack of consistency. I think a very annoying 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:23.639 thing is um when people play around with my time, 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.160 like if like if we like, if you say a 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.840 certain time, you know, it really irritates me, not only 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.840 from dating, not man, just in general, Like if we 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.840 have a nine am meeting, don't hit me at nine 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.760 forty five and say, oh I can't make it. You 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.680 knew you couldn't make it, probably at eight forty five. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.000 You played already, right you you knew you couldn't make 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:52.760 it at eight probably, So that those type of things, 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.680 I agree with that because I always feel like latenist 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:57.920 is really a disrespect to the other person because in 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.920 certain times not important. Yeah, and that's how I look 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.800 at it. I remember I dated this guy and what 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:04.920 I did to him, and he never was late again 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:07.120 after this because he would always be late. And so 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.119 what I did was the next time that we were 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.520 going out, I just went and did something else. And 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.439 then when he called me like thirty forty minute, I 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.119 was like, oh, I didn't think you were coming, right, 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.439 and because you weren't here, so I left and he 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.480 was never late again after that. Yeah. Time is very important. Absolutely. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:25.480 Time is like one of the most important things, especially 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:30.720 when you're a parent, because you plan everything, So I 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:35.840 think that, yeah, be considerate. What made you focus on 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.439 the last five years as opposed to like your whole 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:43.440 life of dating experiences as far as the EP, Yeah, 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.399 it wasn't only I'd say it was more so the 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:52.160 last ten years. Well, because coming out of a marriage, 0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:54.200 you know, I had to give myself time to really 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:57.720 get ready for dating. You know, I didn't want to 0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:01.760 jump into anything. So once I hit the road, I 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.120 was like, Okay, I'm in it. Let's see, let's see 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:10.560 what people are doing out here. At first, I don't 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:14.280 think I was conscious enough to to really pay attention. 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.159 I was just having fun. Yeah, And how was that? 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:22.439 Is everything? Dating somebody else? When you have in X, right, 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.400 do they always look at your ex like it's insane 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:30.160 and it's ridiculous And it's been a very large it's 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:34.679 been a huge hindrance and in a complication, Yes, I 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:39.560 could imagine it's annoying. Um, if your ex worked at McDonald's, 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:40.760 I'm sure to be a lot it would be so 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:46.720 much easier. It'd be so much easier. Um. But some 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:53.480 guys are a little intimidated and insecure, and some guys 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:57.000 act like they're not. But they are, and then once 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.040 in a while you'll meet a guy who really does 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.439 not care, who doesn't even really know who the person is. 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.879 And those are the ones. Those you know, those are 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.560 the ones that I like, Yeah, those are the ones 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.200 who who were just like who And I'm like, yeah, 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:18.879 we're gonna have fun. You open a marriage again. You know, 0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:26.280 marriage can be great. But I think I did it, 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:32.720 and I'm good on that, um verbatim. I did it. 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:37.920 It's good when it's good. But I don't know if 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:42.639 I believe anymore. And no offense to the people that 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:50.879 are married, same thing. Really, I just you know, I 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:54.199 don't know if I should even say this, but I 0:23:54.320 --> 0:24:01.240 just feel like as humans, individual souls on a spiritual level, 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:09.919 that what marriage means to a lot of people kind 0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:18.680 of stunts growth individually as a person. Because if you're 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.960 married to someone that's on the same level with you 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.760 with this, then it's perfect. But if you're married to 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:30.600 someone that doesn't think that you need to be somewhat 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.040 interactive with another human at some point. Oh so you're 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.640 basically saying you don't believe in monogamy. Absolutely, I do. 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.720 She said no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, interact, yes, 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:58.800 interact in a nice way. No no, yes, yes, like 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.000