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Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is stech Envy and Ngela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are to Breakfast club. We got a special guests

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Speaker 1: in the Belding Strange of Danger. Hi, welcome back. We

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Speaker 1: haven't seen you. Twenty No twenty eighteen when the book

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Speaker 1: came out. Ye, how are you remember? I'm great, energy, amazing, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I think you know. I think my energy is always amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm pretty steady. You set your affirmations in

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Speaker 1: the morning always. Ye, well this morning, um, I think

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Speaker 1: the first the first thing I said to myself when

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Speaker 1: I woke up was it's going to be a beautiful day, okay.

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Speaker 1: And you feel great absolutely, even with the rain and everything.

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Speaker 1: And I love the rain because living in San Diego

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Speaker 1: now we don't get any rain. Why San Diego. It's

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Speaker 1: just gorgeous. I know. But like, what was the connection?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, we live here. I've lived here my

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Speaker 1: whole life. Um, twenty twenty happened. My grandmother who raised me,

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Speaker 1: one of the closest people in my life, passed away

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and yeah, and she was the main

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Speaker 1: reason why I stayed here so long, because I was

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Speaker 1: taking care of her. My son's father moved out to

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Speaker 1: San Diego in twenty nineteen and he struggled. My son

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Speaker 1: struggled with it a lot, and I right though, you know,

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Speaker 1: he lost that connection. It was a weekly thing. So

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Speaker 1: I haven't wanting to move to LA for years, but

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Speaker 1: I stayed because of my grandmother. And when everything happened,

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Speaker 1: I went out to San Diego, spent a month and

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Speaker 1: fell in love. I was like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: live in LA. I'm gonna live here. It's like nature everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and it ended up working out. Yeah, reignited your love

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Speaker 1: for music too. Yeah, Okay, I definitely think that had

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Speaker 1: that setting had a lot to do with it, you know,

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Speaker 1: really emerging back into it, and your son had a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with it also, a hundred percent influence

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Speaker 1: on everything. So totally, can you tell us why you've

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Speaker 1: put out an EP? It's been how long since your

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Speaker 1: last God January Joy came out in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ seventeen years later. So it wasn't I know

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Speaker 1: you did. It wasn't that you didn't had a lack

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Speaker 1: of love for music. Wasn't the industry more than industry? Right? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: The industry. Um, you know, I felt a little misplaced

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Speaker 1: and a little unwelcomed, and you know, even blackballed, would

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Speaker 1: you say, goes up? Yeah, a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 1: I heard things here and there. People felt like they

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Speaker 1: had to choose sides. I still feel like a lot

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Speaker 1: of people do feel that way, and I get it,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know people never got that though, yeah

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. That must

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Speaker 1: have been on them because I've never felt like, well

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Speaker 1: I never thought that. I've never felt that from me

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Speaker 1: that club at all. But you'd be surprised, totally, totally,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, it was a little discouraging. And

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Speaker 1: as much as I love music, I've been doing music

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Speaker 1: way before I met my ex, you know. So it

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Speaker 1: was me and my son came in the room and

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Speaker 1: last year in November and he said, my your viral

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Speaker 1: on TikTok and I was like, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: You know, and uh, you know what's going on? Pretty much,

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Speaker 1: I've been in a bubble. I was never on TikTok

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Speaker 1: until he told me this. Somebody said up here and said,

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Speaker 1: you're Charlomagne, you're your your sound on TikTok. Your sounds

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Speaker 1: going what are you talking about? Right? And it was

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Speaker 1: a record that I did in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: a freestyle I did over a Bust to Rhymes joint,

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Speaker 1: The Honey I See you had like millions and millions

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Speaker 1: and millions of interactions worldwide, and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well maybe this is a sign. No, maybe I need

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Speaker 1: to really get back into it, especially now that this

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Speaker 1: generation knows my voice. So um, I did just that,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I created a body of work that

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Speaker 1: I love and it's art. You know, It's not a

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Speaker 1: traditional album. It's it's from beginning to end a story

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Speaker 1: and love and my transformation. I don't always use the

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Speaker 1: word healing because I feel like it's more of a transformation, um,

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Speaker 1: and just the ups and downs of love. And you

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Speaker 1: did some visuals with it, a lot of energy with

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Speaker 1: the interacting with you when you're a main leading man. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to. I wanted to create a visual

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Speaker 1: that was refreshing compared to what's happening now in visuals

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Speaker 1: dying art. People even know what that it is anymore.

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. So I wanted to take

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Speaker 1: it back to what that looks like, like having an

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Speaker 1: what Complicated is all about. Pick the beats and help

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Speaker 1: you produce, and not at all. He want nothing to

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Speaker 1: of music. No, you know, he's like, when I do

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Speaker 1: this one's good. Otherwise to him, it's like old people music,

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Speaker 1: you know him, and he loves it. Okay, he loves it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is the God's plan affirmation? So the God's plan affirmation?

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Speaker 1: My grandmother always used to say, put everything in God's hands.

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Speaker 1: So at the end, um, that's what I say. I said,

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Speaker 1: it's God's plan and It's in God's hands. And that

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Speaker 1: one starts with waking up and blessing the day, and

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Speaker 1: I say, I want to start. I want to start

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Speaker 1: my blessing. I want to thank my day with you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm speaking to the person listening. I want to

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Speaker 1: count my blessings starting with you. So that's to let

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Speaker 1: you know you are a blessing, right. So it's interactive

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Speaker 1: the music and the affirmations because I want people to

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Speaker 1: really I feel like our culture sometimes we have a

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Speaker 1: hard time understanding how to even get into meditating. I

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Speaker 1: have a lot of people ask me, well, how do

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Speaker 1: small idea of how to get started. And I did

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Speaker 1: it over a very relatable kind of deed. So you

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Speaker 1: work with a lot of people in this industry, did

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Speaker 1: you reach out to any of them during this project?

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Speaker 1: And some of them say, now, I'm not effort with

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Speaker 1: you as everybody can with open arms. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: with two new young producers, Lenicia Nelson, who's an amazing

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Speaker 1: probably helps to create a trauma free album too, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because you're not bringing no old triggers and you know

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Speaker 1: certain things like you know, I like the song Runaway, Yes,

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Speaker 1: of it. Baby, it is freedom, right, it's runaway. Runaway

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Speaker 1: is just about walking away from a situation before it

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Speaker 1: red flags, you know, And I think sometimes we prolong

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Speaker 1: Or someone said, you know, the sex might be good

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Speaker 1: the leading factor? What is the red flags? For Maschanda?

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Speaker 1: Red flags for me now are definitely communication, you know,

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Speaker 1: if we can't be transparent and consistency. I love consistency.

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Speaker 1: So it's like those two things have so much to

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Speaker 1: leading up to UM, so I look out for that.

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Speaker 1: Dating is interesting. Dating can be ghetto ghetto, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking McDonald's thinking about dating, you know versus

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Speaker 1: mister Chowers when the friends are good and had exactly

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Speaker 1: mean ghetto. You know. I just feel like people get

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Speaker 1: And it's like, this is not what I signed up for. UM.

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Speaker 1: But it's just interesting because I'm just it. But these

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Speaker 1: But it's been interesting because at first I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: know the ghetto one that you said ghettocause something popped

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Speaker 1: Is it okay? Here to FaceTime? Right? Right? Well? What

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Speaker 1: tell yourself when you name the album note this Self. So,

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Speaker 1: I'm the type of person I'm always if something comes

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Speaker 1: I'm journaling um and I think and I've noticed that

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Speaker 1: when I don't do that, I forget what that moment

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Speaker 1: of like oh wow. So I think everybody should start

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Speaker 1: writing things down, those those moments where you like connect

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Speaker 1: You know, it's always like something in the past that

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Speaker 1: Note to Self is really it's an accounting. It's a

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Speaker 1: document of everything that I've I feel like I've survived

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Speaker 1: who you know maybe there's no future with, but they

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Speaker 1: are a positive distraction? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I feel like

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Speaker 1: everybody needs that. But that's also a conversation. You don't

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? And it was different. I was

424
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Speaker 1: even I was even like, wow, okay, let me that's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Would you be okay with that with

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Speaker 1: somebody you were dating? If he It would have to

427
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Speaker 1: be because if that person you though, he was hitting

428
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Speaker 1: his wife the whole time, And I would want to

429
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Speaker 1: be in a situation with someone that I trust enough

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Speaker 1: to go do that. Absolutely, you could trust somebody that

431
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: much that like, is it hard for you to trust? No?

432
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, well, he wouldn't say anyway, right, he

433
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Speaker 1: didn't try to holland no, no, no, no no. But

434
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Speaker 1: people have teld me that men and women can't be friends.

435
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Speaker 1: And I have great male friends and some people. I'm

436
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Speaker 1: also not throwing myself and giving sexual energy to these people.

437
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, like I didn't give him any sexual energy.

438
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Speaker 1: It was like I knew he was married and was

439
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Speaker 1: like I wasn't. I wasn't. I didn't look at him

440
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: that way, right, you know, and thank you for helping him, right.

441
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: And some people also feel like they don't want to

442
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Speaker 1: make new friends either, because I've heard that a million times.

443
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: It's so problematic. That's a random new person culture stuff.

444
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: It's like, no new friends, and how are you gonna

445
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: grow right? You know, how are you gonna evolved? Sometimes

446
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: for friends you might like better than your old friends

447
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: who you obligated to be friends with. The guy that

448
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: picked you up, I mean he has to be you're

449
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: still thinking about no, because if it's like if a

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Speaker 1: family member called and said, hey, I have a friend

451
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 1: coming in town, that means that person means something to you. Yes,

452
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: So that means that that, yes, I would go pick

453
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Speaker 1: them up and do something. Because other than that, I'm

454
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Speaker 1: trying to think if if I would pick somebody up

455
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Speaker 1: that I didn't know, but I would only do that

456
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Speaker 1: if a close friend said he my sister absolutely out

457
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Speaker 1: for her, or if this is by someone so so yeah,

458
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: I can see that happening, but his wife still didn't

459
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: have to agree. You know that's true? Could you? Could

460
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: you deal with a man right now that hasn't done

461
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Speaker 1: any work on himself, like, never done the therapy, not

462
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: on no journey of healing. Nothing. I don't have the

463
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: time or the energy. I have one son. Yeah, you

464
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Speaker 1: think you've been in love again? Yeah? M hmm yeah,

465
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: look at a blushing now seem like even for me now?

466
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: And love is also very different you know. Um, well

467
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: you have a new definition of it. Yeah, okay, what

468
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Um, I think in love is kind

469
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: of like a infatuation. It's very temperate, It's it's a

470
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: it's a I don't want to say temporary. Some people

471
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: do say they're like being married for years and they're

472
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: still in love. But I do kind of think that

473
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: it's um, it could be selfish, it could be very

474
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: um what's the word um? Conditional in love? Like what

475
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: happens if that person does something that doesn't make you

476
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: so happy? Are you still in love with them? You know?

477
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: So for me it's like I when I get into

478
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: these relationships and and the love starts coming into play,

479
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: it's always about will I be able to be okay

480
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: with you even if you do something that I can't stand,

481
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, like I love my son if he does

482
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: something I don't like, I'm still gonna love my son.

483
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: Am I gonna look at you that way? Can we

484
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: get through that? So for me, that is more important

485
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: than being in love. Could you date somebody in the

486
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: industry again, I wouldn't want to. I haven't why not?

487
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I know why not hurt, but you wouldn't

488
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: rule it out, he said, you don't know why not

489
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: because you just know why not. And I mean, I'm

490
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: this could apply to everyone in this room because we

491
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: are industry people. Um. I just think that we are

492
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: jaded in a way. UM, we've been over exposed. Um

493
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: a lot of our purity has been tainted. So but

494
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: that's not just this industry. That's in life. I feel

495
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: like music industries or music industry so different, and people

496
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: change as they get older too. I feel like there's

497
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: a time when, yeah, everybody's going wild, and then everybody

498
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: calms down. That's where everybody in therapy now. It seems

499
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: like maybe, like you know, some forbidden fruit wouldn't be bad.

500
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But it's like like you said, though,

501
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the person just really has to be aware. I think

502
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: we're all aware of our things. It also has a

503
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: change too. You know, you think about when we all

504
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: came up together, right, it was a wild time, that's

505
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: what we seem. There was nothing showing us the other side. Yeah,

506
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: now that's starting to change. You're starting to see that more,

507
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, which is a way better thing. You know, true,

508
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. It's just something about the

509
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: whole even the word music industry. It's like, I don't

510
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: think I want to anybody in the music industry. Even

511
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: I just said the song forbidden Fruit, Now I read

512
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: that part of that is also somebody told you you

513
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: taste like a sweet fruit? Is that true or false?

514
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: You know everything that I write about is true? Okay? Yeah?

515
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Where fruit was it? Don't give about your secrets. That's

516
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a whole other book. I will. I know it is

517
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: a whole other book, and I actually wanted to do

518
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: a whole little thing on it. But I will book

519
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: on forbidden fruit. Know about self care, about how to

520
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, and you know how to how

521
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: to how to taste good? You know? Um yeah, yeah,

522
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: but lip service I figured that. Yeah, it was so

523
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: much fun. You want to play, but you want to

524
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: play complicated? Complicated. She by the way, first time directing

525
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: a video, yes, so that's huge to make sure after

526
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: you hear the song, go look at the video too,

527
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: if you haven't already. I love it. I didn't want

528
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: to ask one more question about purity though, like what

529
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: is purity? Because I don't feel like anybody can be pure.

530
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think no human on this planet could ever

531
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: be pures. What is purity to you? I think pure? Well,

532
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: I know purity for me is, like I said, loving

533
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: someone unconditionally, not expecting. I'm just really taking them for

534
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: who they are. Um, not coming down on them every

535
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: time they do something that irritates you, but but learning

536
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: how to manage yourself, you know, checking yourself, why does

537
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: this irritate me? Um? And when you exchange energy with

538
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: someone on that level, that's pure and it's rare real.

539
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: All right, ladies and gentlemen, if you're late, she's going

540
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: to be pure and not come down on you. My god,

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Speaker 1: it's the breakfast cloud. Good morning,