WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Back in the Win Column 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.520 The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:06.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:15.840 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:16.400 Yes? 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.280 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:19.079 Absolutely? 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.040 Ready for a break? 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:21.520 Yeah? 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:23.439 And so much for that. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.800 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:35.520 with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.240 It is Monday, November twenty fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.920 episode number seventy four. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:46.280 The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.920 at the Star, presented by LGLG is the world's number 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.640 one OLED TV brand for eleven years in counting See 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:55.240 why at LG dot com, Forward slash O, led Evo, 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.880 and man, do we have a game to discuss today? 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.080 Craziest game had If somebody asked me last night, was 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.399 this the craziest game in my twenty four years? And 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.440 I still don't think it was the craziest. I still 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:09.199 think the Buffalo game with the five interceptions by Tony 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.120 was the craziest game I've ever been a part of 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.679 or been to, But this one was right up there. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.520 It certainly was a top three for me. Uh, cowboys 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.039 get to win thirty four to twenty six. Let's start 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.080 with stories of the game. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.800 What is the real quick? Sure would the Atlanta game, 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.160 that Watermelon Kick game be that one came up? Okay? 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.320 Dan Quinn has been part of two games. 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.160 Yeah and then yeah, yeah, it's kind of. 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.000 Crazy on the opposite side both times. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.080 Yeah weird to say too. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:41.080 Yeah, Oh, I'm sure Dan is sitting there what just happened? 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.880 Because you know, I've seen the graphics of you know, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.080 where the score was with you know, five minutes left 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.120 in the game, and by and large, let's let's be honest, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.720 most of this game and were you up there, we 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.720 were sitting like, yeah, I mean most of this game 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:58.000 it was. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.840 Kind of like where's the coffee? 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:04.240 There just was no real offensive firepower. There wasn't a 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.920 lot of scoring. It was just kind of this back 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:10.639 and forth, almost a comedy of errors, and then all 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.400 of a sudden, bam, it just hits it goes. So 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.040 what was the story of the game. What was the 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.440 story game? As you look back now over what happened yesterday. 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.520 This team's fighting three and seven going into this game. 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.000 I think you know you talked to most of the 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:25.480 fan base. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.800 Heck, you talk to us. We're moving on to draft. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.600 But this team hasn't stopped fighting, and I think you 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.839 saw that in the final five minutes last night. I mean, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.080 you look at the clock, five thirty to go, the 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.559 score is thirteen to nine, and then it's thirty. 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.040 Four to twenty six. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:40.679 So they had to weather a lot of storms, a 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.440 lot of back and forth action, a little bit of 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.440 luck involved too, no doubt, but this team's fighting on 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.720 both sides of the ball. And I have to give 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.560 credits to the defense more so just because it feels 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:55.320 like all eleven are playing together right now, and it's 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.600 trended that way. Over the course of the last couple 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.000 of weeks. They haven't been able to finish games because 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.400 the offense hasn't given them any help at all. The 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.240 offense finally held them out yesterday, got them up twenty 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.120 to nine, and then you know, that's when all the 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.280 craziness happened. But I think this defense is continuously getting 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.799 better as each week goes by, and once they get 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.280 fully healthy, once they get everybody back, I think this 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.519 is a solid unit for Mike Zimmer. But There's a 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.680 deeper conversation about Mike Zimmer that I think we need 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:23.960 to have moving forward. Is is he a guy that 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.639 you keep around no matter what at this point, because 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.600 I think he's a guy that has gotten this defense 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.720 better as years going on. 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:31.960 He's weathered these injuries. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.920 Might not be a conversation for today, but I think 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.120 we need to have a deeper conversation about Mike Zimmer 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:37.600 moving forward. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.640 We definitely are going to do that. Let's go on, Amber, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:40.760 what's your story of the game. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.440 My story is that man, when it feels good, I 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:48.000 forgot what it felt like. No, Like seriously, it's just 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.680 a different vibe coming in. I'm tired and everything, but 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.320 it just feels different. The vibe around the office. Lights. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.600 All the lights were on today just for reference, like 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.200 they turn in our floor where we were, they turned 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.280 half of the lights off, so it's like dimmer and 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:10.760 just people enjoy the moody desk watch filmy morning. All 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.400 the lights were on and we're just over here working. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.960 Everybody is like happy to be here. And then another 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:21.840 thing is like Derek's favorite things, favorite thing on the 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:27.960 plane are cookies. Last night they ran out of cookies. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.120 They were like, sorry, the players and the coaches they 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.080 all hate cookies. If they run out of cookies. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.880 I'm like, damn, so they're gonna be fa slow. On Thursday, 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:37.960 I was. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.320 Like, I don't love that cookies. What's going on? 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:42.280 Hey, I don't mind it. 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:43.680 You celebrate with cookies. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.040 That's fine. Hey, it's fine. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:50.760 Learned absolutely, But just to that, I just think what 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.360 the defense is starting to show. It's exciting when you 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:58.760 start considering all the different things that they're having to overcome, 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.240 mainly with the injuries. And once again maybe it's coincidence, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.640 I don't know, but it just goes to show again 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:11.000 what Micah Parson's presence does to this defense, because that's 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.039 when everything started to trend upwards. Was when he made 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.320 his return to the lineup. Things just started improving slowly. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.560 And then when you think of a game without Trevon 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:25.120 Diggs and then Kalen Carson. I know he wasn't playing well, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.720 but it's still another guy that's taking out of your 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.440 defense their own bland he had. You know, he's working 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.559 his way back in it. But just credit to those younger, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.520 less experienced quote unquote guys that are just working so 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.719 hard on defense and it's just it's been impressive honestly. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.320 Now on offense you got to step it up more. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.279 But again, just celebrating and happy today. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.840 Tip the captain Mike Solari. We've been giving him a 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.480 lot of crap this whole year, and the offensive line 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:55.920 at times has it been very good. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:56.880 Uh. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.039 You go into the game yesterday, you get the inactive 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:02.040 list ninety minutes for the game, you see Martin and 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:06.280 Smith both out. Yep, you're thinking absolute disaster. They're not 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.159 going to run the ball. They're not going to attempt 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:09.680 to run the ball. They're not going to be able 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.000 to protect well enough to even move the football, you know, 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:18.320 and you're picking you know, Commanders thirty two Dallas six. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.760 You know, that's one of those games you're thinking about. 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.120 But give the offensive line some credit. Yesterday the guys 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.479 Hoffman came in, he brought he brought toughness to He's 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.240 not as talented as what Martin is, but he brought 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.039 the same amount of toughness. When you start to talk 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:36.960 about the way that it was a kind of a 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.000 chippy game, you know with those guys, they did a 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.120 really good job with the combo blocks when they were 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.040 able to you know, run the football, the pass protection, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:47.360 and there were plenty of times where Cooper Rush was 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.960 able to get to find a receiver, to locate a 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.040 guy and get the ball out. So you have to 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.640 be fair about this. And Mike Silaria has been taking 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.760 a lot of crap and but yesterday those he did 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.440 a really good job of getting young guys ready a 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.720 couple you know, not I say young veteran guys, but 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.599 as a group, those five guys actually played. They played 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.400 six guys yesterday. If you include awesome Richardson too, that 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.720 that contest. But you know they need to work on 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.760 you know, we go into the game. We talked about 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.040 this a little bit, I know on our pregame show, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.000 uh you know one O five three the fan. We 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.240 talked about the officials and Trey Blake. This is a 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.760 crew that called when linemen were lining up deep. That 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.840 was one of the calls, and we talked about it 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.640 when we have a thing called the Zebra Report, and 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.920 it played out that this is a crew that is 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.920 going to call you if you line up deep. And 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:40.800 there were a couple of times where he was deep. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.800 He was deeper than CD and the slot he can't 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.360 be that deep. You know they're gonna call that. But 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.680 other than that, those guys did a good job of 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:52.920 holding up up front. They created lanes, they gave you protection. Uh, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.080 you know, they'll figure out two what needs to be 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.400 done on that field goal protection thing with BB and 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.440 Schoonmaker after the first first block kind of interlocked legs 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:06.120 and it was better better that way. So, but tip 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.880 of the caps of those guys for getting it done 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:09.040 up front in that game. Yeah. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:10.920 I was able to chop it up with Brock Hoffman 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.880 and TJ Bass in the locker room after the game, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:14.560 just kind of being like, hey, when did y'all find 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:15.320 out you were starting? 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:16.320 How did you feel like it went? 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.520 And TJ had found out earlier in the week obviously, 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.960 and then Brock had found out the morning of, So 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.000 yesterday morning he found out that he was going to 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.480 be starting, And it was kind of a similar situation 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.160 for both of them because they both started in the 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.400 game in Washington last year in Week eighteen, but it 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.360 was the roles were reversed. Brock found out the morning 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.640 of and or excuse me, TJ found out the morning 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.439 of Flip Flop. But I had asked him to, like 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.760 what a part. What about these opportunities do you guys 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.680 like relish the most? He's like, well, we're two undrafted 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.120 guys like we take that personally. We want to be 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.319 able to show that, you know, we were worthy of 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.680 at least a draft spot. And Brock was like, yeah, 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.199 it was pretty ugly, and TJ was like, that's just 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.840 the way we like it. So I appreciated those two guys' efforts. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.000 Do you want to guess how many total pressures they 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:00.680 gave up in the game three? 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:01.920 What do you got? 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:03.360 Total pressure? 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.800 Total pressures allowed by TJ bat I didn't look. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.640 This up, but I was just watching the tape this morning. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.880 It seemed like they were pretty low. So I just 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:10.720 guessed the really, I. 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.319 Mean, based on your little giddy smile, I would say 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:14.760 maybe two, Okay. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:21.400 Okay, yeah, I would say probably. I'd say probably three, 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:24.319 But because I know BB had zero, Yeah, so I 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.000 would say probably three between the two of them. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.360 According to Pro Football Focus, it's a fat goose egg 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:29.440 for so. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.000 The interior gave Interiero pressure. I said, wow, possible. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:35.360 Didn't Paine get a sack? 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.440 According to Pro Football. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.040 Focus, I think didn't get a sack there in the 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.680 closer to the end of the game. 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.880 I thought they gave. Yeah, they gave. I was trying 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.920 to think about the that was a sack. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.640 They did regist a sack of pain. I'll see what 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:52.280 he was lined up. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:54.280 I wont Yeah, I wonder who that who that was against? 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.600 Trying to think who that was against, because he's. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.839 A defensive tackle. I think he gets one of those 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.600 three you would think. 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.000 But that's why I thought it was yeah, something like that. 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.199 Yeah, yeah, well it was to me, it was good. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.960 It was good everyone. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.599 Yeah, let's not get lost in the details on that. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.960 The fact of the matter is when I first saw 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.600 that those those two guys are out on the offensive line, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.880 I looked at Nick because on the show I said 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.400 last week, I said, if you get all these guys back, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:23.280 I think this sets up for the Cowboys to be 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.000 able to go up there and get a win. And 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.400 and then when those two guys are out, I was like, yeah, 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.360 I don't know how I feel too good about the 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.040 possibilities here, because what we've seen all season is the 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.400 offensive line has not been able to protect, haven't been 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.040 able to to infective living run. Yeah, and then all 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:42.920 of a sudden, you lose the two guys in the 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.760 middle that are the most veteran of this group, and 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:47.240 so I just didn't think it was gonna be a 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:48.360 way that they were going to be able to get 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.360 that done. But what we saw yesterday was and credit 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.559 to I think you credit not only Mike Salari, but 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.520 you also have to credit Mike McCarthy and the and 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.960 the offensive staff of being able to call the right 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.920 kind of game for these guys because they did take 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.240 a there were there were a lot of quick throws coming, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.640 getting the ball out quick, and so that's just kind 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.280 of understanding where you are and you're having to play 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:07.640 that game. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.719 Kind of felt like we could take advantage of the 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.520 commander's secondary said that, ye, and we talked about too, 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.720 and I'm glad it worked out. You know, they they 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.760 decided they don't want to cover scoon Maker going up 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.600 the middle of the field. We talked about the fact 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.760 that they'd given up five touchdowns too tight ends in 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.840 the red zone. Make that six now, you know. So yeah, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.880 it was it was a good a good victory all 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.960 the way around. I know there's the there's the folks 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.000 out there that are like, you know, tank for the 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.679 better positions and things like that. You you that's not 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.360 going to happen with this this crew. I mean we could. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.800 We could sit there and all the guys and gals 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.479 that love to talk about the draft and drafting positions 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.280 and stuff like that. You know, I mean we I 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.480 believe this Dallas is Dallas is capable of losing games 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:58.440 just without tanking. They're also capable of winning games. They 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.600 showed you that yesterday, So you know, good for good 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.160 for the team to get a victory like that, and 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.240 you know that that was a that was one of 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.240 the much needed ones too. If you're well, also try 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:11.040 and hang in this thing. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.520 I feel like some people tend to forget that when 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.800 you're quote unquote trying to tank a season or what. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.679 It's not a unanimous decision. There might be people that 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.000 I feel that way, but there are other people that 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.080 are competing and looking for their next job, like these 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.760 games are still important. They're having to go out there 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.600 and play as good as they can. And that goes 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:32.679 for coaching too, Like they're trying to put up a 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.599 game because their next job might not be here, or 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.959 if it is here, they're still trying to hang. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:38.600 On to that job. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.280 So it just it's it's not a unanimous thing and 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.679 everyone has a different agenda, So don't expect them to 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.839 just throw the towel and go through the rest of 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.840 the season trying to lose games. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.120 Well, not only that, but it gets really interesting at 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.720 this point because over the next four weeks, Dallas plays 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.080 teams that are right there with them, Like they've gone 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.800 through the guy of their season. This is the part 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.959 of their season where they actually can make some Hey, 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.520 so you start getting back guys and getting healthy at 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.160 the time that you're going to be playing teams that 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.680 are not considered to be the better teams in the NFL. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.439 This could get real interesting in December. Not to say 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.079 Dallas has a shot necessarily to get back into the playoffs, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.040 because that's going to be a tough up here uphill road, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.040 just because the best they can do at this point 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.199 is ten and seven, which means you got to go 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.800 ten and seven and hope Philly comes back to the pack. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:28.800 Like there's there's a lot that would have to happen 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.160 for you to get there. The point is, though, if 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.360 the Cowboys just keep playing every game the way that 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.160 they played yesterday, they will make it interesting and we'll 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.199 see where it goes from there. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.520 Who is who is the last seed? Who is that? 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:40.280 Do we know who is? 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:41.079 It's Washington. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.280 It is Washington. At seven and seven and five, Dallas. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.679 Dallas plays in the last game of the year. 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.959 Right Dallas is two and one right now in the division, 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.160 could move to three and one in the divisions. As 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.199 bad as their record, as bad as their season has been, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.400 they still have a pretty good record within obviously got 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.200 the record in the division. You gotta win out at 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.400 this point. Yeah, you got any shot whatsoever. But for 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.640 those folks that think you want to tank like that's 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.440 just the hard thing. As you said, Ambro, I don't 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.360 think the players are necessarily thinking about it like that, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.199 because ultimately they're playing for their next job, playing for 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.040 the next contract, coaches, playing for their careers. So it 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.760 just it doesn't always pan out like that. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.079 I will say things get really interesting if this team 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.280 does make a playoff push in some way shape, even 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.240 if they come up just short. If they're going into 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.160 week eighteen with the shot, Yeah, things are gonna get interesting. 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.560 Yeah, especially because you start talking about all those conversations 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.520 people were having prematurely about what's gonna happen with the 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.240 coach and what's gonna happen with this AND's like all 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.880 that has to change a little bit, especially you mentioned 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.480 it with Mike Zimmer, Like this defense has gotten better, 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.600 and you're starting to think maybe it wasn't the coordinator. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.640 Maybe it was just the fact he didn't have any parts, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.800 and now he's getting parts, and all of a sudden, 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.280 his defense is playing better. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.240 Our next Gen stats, I was just looking this up. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.920 For the pressures. They had one for steel, one for Hoffman, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.960 zero for bass, one for BB zero for guiding, one 0:14:59.040 --> 0:14:59.920 for awesome Richards. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.040 Okay, and I'm looking at this. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.040 That's impressive. That's that's extremely impressive. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.040 It's thirty three thirty three snaps, thirty three drop back snaps. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.320 So I'm looking at this sack because it was not 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.120 credited to anybody. According to PFF, it was not credited 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:16.240 to any of the offensive linemen. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.960 They grade that different on those those things. 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.840 I think that that one just loving have to play 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.400 and pain just kind of ran free. It was a 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.080 broken play, and I rush just kind of fair. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.640 They didn't give anybody the sack on the on the 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.760 they didn't credit any next Gen did not credit anybody with. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.120 Giving the pressure on the sack with sack, yeah, giving 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:35.680 up the sack. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.480 They did not, They did not pin the sack on anybody, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.000 but they but the pressures were one for Steel, one 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.880 for Hoffman, one for BB and one for awesome Richards. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:47.320 Wow, that's awesome. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:49.520 That's really good day. All Right, we're gonna take our 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.520 first break when we come back. 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Digital Trends said 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.880 the lgoled G four has the best picture quality they've 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.000 ever seen, and see it for yourself at LG dot 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.080 com slash o ledevl Welcome back. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.679 It is the second segment of the Break life from 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.000 that SWVC Mortgage Studios at the Star. The segment brought 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.600 to you by blockchain dot Com. All Right, man, Special 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.520 Teams yesterday, I don't know, Nick said it was drunk. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.840 I think it was like, I think the whole game 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.480 was drunk. But you look at the special team's portion 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:08.600 of the find drunk. You at Rob's wedding, that's drunk. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.640 That was that was drunk. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.400 I would say, that's pretty drunk. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.960 Yeah, that was pretty drunk. 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:18.920 All right, let's uh, let's look at it. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.359 So they had they had a block thirty five yard 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.320 field goal, They had a missed forty two yard field 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.720 field goal, but then made a forty six and a 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.560 forty eight yard field goal. They had a twenty three 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.879 yard punt that was tipped so it only went twenty three. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:34.280 Got twenty three yards out of. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:35.720 That destroyed my poor center. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.359 Right, they had a ninety nine yard kick return for 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:41.440 a touchdown. They had a forty three yard kick return 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.399 for a touchdown on an on side kick. Let's go 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.919 next to Washington. Right, Washington misses two field goals, misses 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:52.680 two extra points. It was just all over the map, 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.440 and it just seemed like on both sides, special teams. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.119 You forgot, you forgot another gas that table, that one 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:01.040 right before hot a r right after how he kicks 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.879 the ball at a bounce. Oh yeah, they kicked They 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.520 kick it short of the landing area. Weird, and you 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.080 give him the ball for forty yard line. McCarthy walked 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.600 up the bones. He walked up and dropped a few 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:14.560 f bombs on bones. Bones, was like, give that. 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.679 Yeah, that's what the head coaches coaching the coach, that's. 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.119 What the coach. He took off his head said and 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.280 he said, don't you ever f and do that again? Basically, 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.159 he said, don't I mean? And he walked away and 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.240 bones was just bones. He looked like white, the bones. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.159 But let me ask you this, are you starting to 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:35.320 get it all concerned about the kicking union because Brandon 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.359 Aubrey has been very, very consistent and very good. And 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.359 now it's been a couple of times that you just 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.080 blocked weird moments. 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:48.000 The block you know, the the the commanders obviously saw 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:53.280 something in the protection because the uh, they were able 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.280 to jump like usually usually and this is you're talking 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.080 to a guy who's a former long snapper, so I 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:04.080 kind of understand protection. Usually the wings block inside out 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.600 like you will, you will you will check inside and 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:09.800 then work out is what you do on the on 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.840 the outside. And what happened is scoon Maker went he 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.439 immediately went wide and know what happened, he just planted 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.640 his leg. When the cowboys and I watched the ones 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:24.320 from there on, they usually interlocked their legs, so like 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:29.080 BB and Scoonmaker will interlock their legs. What happened was 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:33.920 they jumped right over. They just jumped right over Schoonmaker's 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.600 legs because BB was blocking his guy, Schoonmaker went wide, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.480 natural natural gap right there, so they just jumped over. 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.320 They just jumped over the leg and then we're onto 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.800 the kicker. So later they were interlocked, which made it 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.080 a little bit more difficult, a little bit tighter, uh, 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.320 you know, to not allow the the why would they 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:59.080 not you know what sometimes it happens where you know 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.680 you're it's it's like you're doing you know, you do 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.359 it a million times and then one time you don't 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.560 do it. But I think the commander saw something off 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.440 the edge. You're thinking, hey, if they're going to just 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:11.920 keep blocking wide and block down and block white, there's 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.480 a natural gap for us to be able to try 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.879 and block this off that off that edge. And so 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:22.359 uh but my experience has always been you block, you 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:25.320 block inside, and then as you and then you bounce 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:30.879 out inside and out. And Schoomaker just blocked out, bebe inside, 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.879 and now you just get the commander just put right 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.320 over it, just jumps right over and then he's onto 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:38.120 the onto. 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:39.680 The Do you think that affected the second kick that 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:40.240 was missed. 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.800 No, I just think he missed the second kick. And 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.320 I always look at his plant foot when his plant 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:49.560 foot hits and it kind of gets wonky, like he 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.359 he he pulled one the last miss he had. Remember 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.200 this plant foot hit and it went, it rolled on 0:22:56.320 --> 0:22:58.760 it and it hooked it. You know, it hooked it 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.920 left this one, it's kind of like it hit it flipped, 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:07.080 but he pushed it. So you know, sometimes he kind 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.720 of punches the ball. He he punches it and he 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.680 gets it's explosive off his foot, so he's able to 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.560 kind of drive it that way. This one was kind 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.119 of like he was just when he hit it, he 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.000 was open and it just stayed right where he hit it, 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.280 and so the plant foot, the snap was fine, the 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:27.280 hold was fine. He just kind of shoved it over 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:28.280 there is what he is. 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:28.880 What he did. 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.760 But I always look at his plant foot because if 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.400 it flips on him sometimes he could, it makes him 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.440 pull it. But this one looked like that everything was okay. 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.320 He just shoved it out, shoved it outside. Yeah. 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:42.760 You know what's interesting, I think. 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.760 It affected the punter though, to be honest with you, 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:46.840 the way the punter way they were punting at the 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.879 end of the game. He he was kind of like, 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.560 oh geez, what do we do because they tried to 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.760 do it again. They tried to drive the center again 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.240 and get back there and see you know, I mean, 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.840 but let me be honest with you one way, jan 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.080 Ye Thomas is the personal protector. He's got to step up, 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.359 I mean, make him make those guys. Yeah, it's the 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.800 two defensive tackles that are you know, Newton and and 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:11.400 pain they're pushing and one it just kind of hand 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:16.680 checks and then releases. Make every make them run over 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.840 all you to get to the ball. I mean even 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.480 if you you can't block a three hundred, but a 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:23.760 speed bump, yeah, you just make them have to go 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.640 over the top of you to get to the ball. 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.040 And why did you really really do that? He he 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.720 just checked and then released and that didn't help seek 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.399 at all. You know, he's just got to throw his 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.480 body in there, sacrifice himself. So the they you know, 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.320 they they'd have to go over him to get to 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:39.680 the ball. 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:43.080 One of the interesting things for Aubrey he's missed four 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.640 field goals in his career at Washington. Yeah, he's only 0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.840 missed three anywhere else in the NFL, Like Washington is 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.520 just a weird place for whatever reason. 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.840 Why field the field conditions were pristine, if you can. 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.720 It wasn't bad that turf had been replaced ten days ago, 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.480 so nobody had played on that turf. That is brand 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.000 new turfsy you really can't. Usually you play there late 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.359 in the year, it's all chopped up and some bags 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:06.600 going on, but not. 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.040 Just And it was a beautiful day, so everything was 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:10.240 it was a little money. 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:11.600 I mean our shoes got. 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.960 A little outside our shoes. 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.040 I got a little bit of grass and mud. 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:17.480 Honest. 0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:21.040 No, but I think you know what. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.639 We all have bad days, right, we all have bad days. 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:28.439 It's normal. It's I'm not gonna be mad, and I've 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.280 said it happened. 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.600 Sometimes you should be mad at the commander's kicker. You 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.280 should be happy that he was not good yesterday exactly 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:36.639 we had a day. 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:40.479 It leveled out, you know, I think it canceled out 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.520 each other with with that. And again, when when you 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.040 look at everything that Aubrey has done for you and 0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:49.920 the amount of times where you're where most of your 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.240 points are only coming from Brandon Aubrey and the field 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:57.280 goals that he's made you, this is not enough for 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.840 me to be alarmed or worried about special teams. 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:00.879 And they made up for it. 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:03.400 Yeah, all right, let's move on. Let's talk a little 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:05.640 bit about the offense here before we take our final break. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.800 Let's get to Cooper Rush. Yesterday, he was twenty four 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.360 thirty two seventy five percent completion rate, really high, two 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.399 hundred and forty seven yards, passing two touchdowns, zero interceptions, 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:20.080 a one hundred and seventeen point six passer rating. It 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.399 was a career high for him. How would you assess 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.960 his play overall, because it didn't I was actually surprised 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:27.280 at the end of the game when I saw the 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.600 numbers because during the game, during most of the game, 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.040 I felt like the offense just kind of it was 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.920 doing just a little bit, but just not too much. 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.080 What did you think of his overall play? 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.479 I thought the offense sustained drives, they just couldn't finish them. 0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.560 You look at the two miskicks in the first half, 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.040 you could look at those two opportunities as potential chances 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.159 to get into the end zone as well. But as 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.879 far as Cooper Rush and how he played overall, it's 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.920 what we got used to seeing from him whenever he 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.560 took over a couple of years ago and he went 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.159 four to one over that stretch. Doesn't try to do 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.600 too much, but he does just enough to give you 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.639 your team a shot. And I think what was different 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.840 this week as compared to previous weeks is he really 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:06.680 leaned on CD. 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:08.280 And it makes sense. 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:10.320 I mean, you got a guy that is a reliable 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.240 pass catcher, but it was those first couple of drives 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.400 where he was He got five receptions on those first 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.560 two drives. You could see that there was an intention 0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.359 early on from CD saying like, hey, lean on me, 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.560 I can sustain this offense if we can't get this 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.920 running game going. I don't think this team expected to 0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.760 get the running game going because of how much they 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.399 leaned on CD early. But then Rico was able to 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.119 sustain some Rico Dawdle was able to sustain some carries 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.640 nineteen carries for eighty six yards, and it really helped 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.159 out Cooper rush. At the end of the day, I 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.159 think when you look at those two touches or the 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.440 one touchdown drive that ended with the third down pass 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.960 to schoon Maker, that was one of the better drives 0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:46.160 we've seen all season. 0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:47.760 Well, no matter who was that quarterback. 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.919 I think whenever you look at how the running game 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:53.200 was able to sustain a finishing it wasn't the red zone, 0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.359 but practically finishing in the red zone, and then you 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.000 see two backups being able to execute on a touchdown 0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:59.440 like that, I thought it was pretty cool, especially for 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.960 Schoonmaker who has pretty much been in the doghouse but 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.440 got an opportunity and he shined with it. But for me, 0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.960 the difference with Cooper Rush was he leaned on CD, 0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.320 he leaned on some guys and those guys answered for him. 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:15.640 Yeah, it was good to see some improvement and them 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.640 being able to move the ball, But totally the same 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.440 with what Nick said. It's just finishing those and converting 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.879 on those third downs that it gets to them not 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.359 being able to get into the end zone as many times, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.360 or given the amount of chances that they put themselves 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.160 in or situations as that put themselves in, you should 0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:37.160 be seeing more points being scored and that. But again, 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.280 improvement given from last week and what you saw, and 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.880 you're like, man, they can't do anything. So I got 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:47.160 to give credit to the whole crew and also Mike McCarthy. 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.400 I thought we saw a couple little nuggets that were 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.720 a little different than what we've seen so far. So 0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:55.720 that's improvement in my books. 0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.880 Yeah, you know, and you mentioned the nuggets and it 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.120 really came off the play action stuff. You know, they 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.560 early in the game, they ran a toss sweep and 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:03.760 they got good yardage on. 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.120 It, and what they do They fake lost that play. 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.400 They fake tossed it and it brought every one of 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.040 the linebackers up and then what happened? You get spanned four, 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.920 then behind and now it's a but here's what here 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.440 it is. You know, you get the running game going, 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:19.920 you get some positive plays going, all of a sudden, 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.520 you play action that think Cooper rush was six to 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.000 seven on play action passes for eighty nine yards in 0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:27.560 this game. That just shows you you have somewhat of 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.720 a running game you can make. You could affect people 0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.120 in that way twelve yards almost thirteen yards in attempt 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.880 off the play action game. Just get a running game 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.040 going and you you know, or at least the thread 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:42.640 of it, and that brings defenders up and then you 0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:44.520 have opportunities to make plays off that. 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:46.240 Yea. If the running game doesn't have to be great, 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:47.560 you just have to be committed to it. 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:49.680 And that's what we show people that you can you 0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.280 could bust a couple of runs off them. 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.280 But they, yeah, they had In the first alf Rico 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.600 had nine rushes. He ended up with nineteen. 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:56.680 Yeah, so he got they. 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.360 Were rushing the running the ball throughout the game. He 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.080 had a three point nine average on the first half. 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.240 But it was enough, I think, as you said, Brian, 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.480 was enough to make the defense at least respect the 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.560 fact that there could be a run and you had 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.040 to You had to make sure you devote to people 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:09.920 trying to let me let me. 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.400 Let me also be fair too here because I'm not 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.640 always fair and I need to be more fair. Ezekiel 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:17.760 Elliott made a huge play in that game for you. 0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.320 He recovered that fumble, that high snap. All of a sudden, 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.880 it's like they're scrambling the balls on the ground. That's 0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.000 on the twenty one yard line, that's on your own 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.840 twenty one yard line. He had the presence of mind 0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.920 like it was all kind of messed up. It's on 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:34.240 the ground. He dives, I mean into a pile of 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.280 three hundred pound linemen to get that football. You know, 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.720 that's the kind of thing we could talk about. He 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.040 can't do this, can't do this. That was a very 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.760 football intelligent heads up play right there to save your series. 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:50.200 Because what happened you get the the next play is 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.560 the past the lamb that ends up being rough in 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.800 the passer. Now you're moving the ball down the field. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.120 You know, just think about giving the commanders the ball 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.920 right there again, you know, and what could have potentially 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.160 happens so in the in the spirit of being fair, 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.080 nice job by Ezekiel Elliott making a play, not maybe 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.040 as an offensive player, but diving in there and recovering 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:09.600 that football. 0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:11.560 Yeah, and on the flip side of that, I think 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.480 as we gave a little a little bit of the 0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.640 flowers to Babie with regard to how he was playing yesterday, 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.720 some of the snaps were errent yesterday, and we hadn't 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.400 really seen that a lot from him lately yesterday, so 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:23.560 these snaps were kind of. 0:31:24.080 --> 0:31:26.840 Those heavy dudes get right on him. Sometimes he's like, Okay, 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:27.760 I gotta get this blog. 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.160 Oh there it goes. And that's a that's an experienced thing, 0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.120 I think too. The more you do it, the more 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.440 you get comfortable with the idea you gotta snap first, 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.120 get the snap there, and then you take care of 0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.400 your responsibility. All right, let's take our final break. We'll 0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.200 come back. We'll slip over to the defensive side of 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:41.920 the ball. We got to talk about Josh Butler in 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.960 his average yesterday a pretty interesting game for him. We'll 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.800 talk about that when we come back. 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I'm just like, we 0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.400 gotta go, we gotta go. I'm all excited. Let's go. 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.799 No's, I told you the SEC sucks. I mean every 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.520 every week here, every week you feel like gonna die. 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.239 Football died too. 0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:05.080 I thought coming into this league, I was like, you 0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.600 get the Vandy's, the Kentucky's, and it's like any fun. 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:10.960 Those are still hard games. 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:11.200 Man. 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:14.759 You guys pummel Florida. Now, Florida is everybody right. 0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.279 We just happened to catch him at the right time. 0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:18.840 Without without lagway, that's the. 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.160 Going to be a problem for everybody going forward. 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.919 All right, let's go ahead and finish this thing off strong. 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.120 Talk about the defensive side of the ball. Josh Butler 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.759 man yesterday playing in relief of Trayvon Diggs, another name 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.200 that popped up yesterday, and they're like, he's not playing. 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.680 And I'm thinking to myself, okay, there's no way. Like 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:38.320 I was thinking, you got Digs and you got Bland 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.120 and you got Lewis, you should be fine. And all 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.440 of a sudden you don't have digs and uh and 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.480 you have to throw the youngster Josh Butler out there. 0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.880 But he gets twelve tackles, one sack, three pass defenses. 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.520 How would you assess this play yesterday? Overall? Just not 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.480 necessarily looking at the numbers, but overall, how do you 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.120 assess this play? 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:55.959 Can I can I get some contacts on Josh Butler 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.440 really quick? This is a really interesting story. Graduated from 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.040 Michigan State in twenty nineteen, and he actually lost both 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.120 of his parents while he was at Michigan State. He's 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.080 a graduate of West Mesquite High School, so he's a 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.840 Dallas area guy. He's got a huge Dallas tattoo on 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.520 his on his chest. He reps it well and went 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:13.799 to Uh went to La to go act for two 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.680 to three years and was actually starring in some in 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.400 some shows that people probably seen All American on on 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.360 the CW. He was on All American. He had he 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:24.800 had a role on All American. Yeah, and uh like 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.000 a prominent role. No, I think it was a supporting role. 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:28.640 I honestly don't remember the character he was. 0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.480 I watched next year. I watched the first season. I 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:33.960 didn't watch the past the first season, but I watched 0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:35.200 the first season. I didn't remember seeing it. 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:36.960 He was easily the best football player on that show. 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:37.200 I didn't. 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:38.960 I don't even remember when the show was, but they 0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.160 have awful football players on this show because they throw 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:42.160 like anyway. 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:43.640 Uh uh. 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.120 Anyway, he had a couple of years acting in Los 0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.799 Angeles and decided, Hey, you know, I want to at 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.040 least try out for the USFL. He tried out for 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.240 the USFL, made the team for the Michigan Panthers, played 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.200 really well, and I think we can all remember whenever 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.040 he had the training camp opportunity. Last year in twenty 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.440 twenty three, they brought him in. They lost somebody I 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.800 can't remember exactly who, Derek, maybe you can remember a 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.920 little bit better, but they had lost somebody to injury 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.040 in camp. I think it may have been like Donovan Wilson. 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.719 They knew they were gonna put him on IR or 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.640 something like that. I don't remember what it was, but 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.040 they needed an extra dB basically is just a body. 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.360 He was one of three guys they brought into workout. 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:21.239 He made the team. 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:22.920 I think we were all looking around like, Okay, he 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.799 won't be on the final fifty three, and he wasn't 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.640 on the final fifty three, but he made the practice squad, 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:29.319 stuck it through on the practice squad last year, made 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.920 the practice squad again this year, stuck it through, got 0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.960 his first start last week, and then yesterday had a 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.000 really good opportunity to play, and yeah, what was eleven 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.240 twelve tackles? He had a sack, three pass breakups. Granted 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.279 he was targeted a lot. He was targeted twelve times. 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.160 He gave up nine receptions for eighty. 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:46.680 Seventy yards tackles. 0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.640 That's how you get twelve tackles at corner. But he 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:50.680 was feisty. 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.600 He was Whenever I mentioned that this defense has been 0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.680 fighting for Mike Zimmer, I think Josh Butler kind of 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:56.760 embodied that yesterday. 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.160 Oh the place that he made though, I mean with 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.279 Noah Brown is not easy when you know that big 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.960 body and stuff, and for him not to it's really 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.680 easy to go around somebody and put your arm around 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.239 him and try and knock the ball down with the 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.200 off hand. And the fact that he was able not 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.120 to get any calls against him, I think he would 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:18.240 love to have back the the the the long touchdown, 0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.840 the six. Yeah, they were they I tell you what, Honestly, 0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.320 you can't throw a ball any better than they pined 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.320 that one on Jordan Lewis as the nearest receiver, you know, 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.000 and Jordan Lewis I thought played really really well for 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:34.920 you yesterday. Yeah, he got tagged with the the you know, 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.520 the nearest player, so that you know, like he gave 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.560 up one hundred and they said one hundred and three yards, 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.560 but eighty seven of it came on one play. So 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.319 that just showed you the kind of game that Jordan 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.560 and Jordan Lewis had to play outside too. They played 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:51.360 three different guys at that cornerback spot, you know, and 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.480 talking to some people in the organization this morning about 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.120 with Bland and his situation, and they kept asking him, 0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.359 how do you feel, how do you feel? And he goes, 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:00.759 I'm good, I'm good, that I'm good, you know, and 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:03.040 they so they kept trying to go to him and 0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.320 keep him on the field the best they could. But 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.400 that you know, for Jordan Lewis to line up outside, 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.719 he carried that route if you remember McLaurin the ball 0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:14.920 that ended up out of balance. I mean, he carried 0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.680 Terry McLaren on a deep route and Jordan Lewis doesn't 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:19.200 get to do that a whole hell of a lot, 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:25.560 but him, you know, Bland Butler. Those guys they played 0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:29.200 really really well. Is he They all played really really 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.879 well for you know, a quarterback that for a young guy. 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.880 He throw it pretty well, spin it pretty well. They 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.840 did a good job of covering those guys. 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:41.240 Up and Blanze returned thirty five covered snaps that he played, 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:45.000 allowed four receptions for twenty eight yards. Yeah, and one 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.239 of those receptions was for twenty yards, so you take 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:48.000 that away, that's. 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.680 Three for eight. He was really good. 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.560 I think that you saw the coverage unit and we 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.640 we re talked about when everyone in the locker rooms 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.400 talking about how they played as a unit yesterday. 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:57.719 I think Deron Bland's a big part of that. 0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.440 You look at how how much trust they have over 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.560 on the outside when twenty six is there, it's a 0:40:02.600 --> 0:40:03.120 lot different. 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.080 Tay what too real quick on the defense, you know, 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.879 we asked for them to use overshown like a poor 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.879 man's Micah Parsons. Yeah, they they they're they're figuring it out. 0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.319 Thank god, Mike's figuring this out. You know, you bring 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.000 him in as a pass rusher, uh, you know, he 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.960 gets pressures, he gets sacks, you know. Unfortunately on the 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:26.960 on the early run, the one where uh, where Daniels 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.040 got like sixteen yards he was in position he felt 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:33.360 on He's coming on the rush and he stumbles and 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.560 so he's right there the holes. But he's going to 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.359 the ground as Daniels is running by. If he's up 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.040 on his feet, that's a gain of one or two 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.160 right there. But but they've they the way that they 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.120 use him with as a as a rusher. But the 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.080 interception on the goldst in play, he's lined up as 0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.759 an off ball linebacker. Then he kind of shifts out 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.560 to the outside and then comes on a blitzer on 0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.279 the backside forces Daniels to kind of have to run 0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.680 and he throws the ball early and then Robinson knocks 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.160 it up in the air and they're Golston for the interception. 0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.080 So again pressure from the backside. He starts off at 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.759 one spot, move him to another. He gets pressure there. 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:10.480 So you got to love the way that overshown Lewis Butler, 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.400 all these guys played yesterday. 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.560 Yeah, real quick talk to me about Johnson Goldston. You 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.280 mentioned him. Yeah, here the last few weeks, it seems 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.000 like we keep just seeing these solid performances from him, 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.759 a guy that finally is playing in a position where 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:25.799 he's not kind of moving around. He's he's a guy 0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.880 that that is a defensive end and it seems like 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:29.359 he's he's adapting to that role. 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.120 Well, yeah, I hate to see that he's gonna up 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.719 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers doing that and then you know, 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.200 get the opportunity there. No, but that's really yeah, there's 0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:38.960 a lot of these guys are getting to play. Yeah, 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.920 you know, you're getting to see these guys play and uh, 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.440 you know, full time and it and it's really benefiting him. 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:45.600 You know. 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:48.399 They they get maybe two three plays and then they're 0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.520 not in there for six seven plays and they're back 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.080 in there for two plays. And you know with Golston, 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.200 I mean him, oh so Diggy Zua though those guys. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.520 Let me tell you this, another game, another division opponent, 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.239 another good game for Mozzie Smith playing football yesterday. You 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:06.480 know power first the first the first play that Robinson, 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.920 he takes Beaddish and drives him straight back. Robinson's got 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.280 nowhere to go. There's osa right there, boom tackle. Unfortunately, 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:15.560 Robinson gets hurt. It affected him later in the game. 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.120 He couldn't even play anymore. So, but that's that's you know, 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.960 it seems like a divisional opponents. Mozzie Smith his best 0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:27.400 games Philadelphia Giants, you know, And now this one an 0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.239 interesting point. Yeah, so it's got Giants on Thursday's due 0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:30.960 for six tackles. 0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:35.560 But no, it's good with Chauncey Goldstone. Why was he 0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:38.440 played a defensive tackle for so long? Because now we're 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.799 seeing him thrive at edge and he's doing so well. 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:44.080 This is the guy that they could have used rotationally last. 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.600 Year way too many that had so many defensive ends. 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.160 We're still talking at the beginning of the season that 0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:51.560 I understand to a certain extent that I can understand 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:53.800 because the depth was there, for sure. They had Dante Fowler, 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.360 Dorn's Armstrong. But this year, when they come into a 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.160 year where they know that there were some young guys, 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:00.520 I just I think they didn't use him at the 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.520 edge until they had to, and now they're starting to 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.120 reap the benefits of that. You talk about, you know, 0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.640 he might end up going somewhere in the offseason. I'd 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:08.359 pay to keep him here. 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:08.839 I would too. 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:11.160 See, that's that's your hope right there. If you're a 0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.160 Cowboy fan and there's there's a couple of guys right now. 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.479 Maybe I don't know if you could get all three, 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.320 But on defense, Jordan Lewis be one for me, Goalsta 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.400 would be another one for me, and Osa would be 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.879 another one for three, and everybody else I could kind 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.680 of like, Okay, well, I'll rally when I have to rally. 0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.799 But you know, if I if you could get one 0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:34.239 of those three guys me personally, Jordan Lewis, I think 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.000 Jordan Lewis, Jordan Lewis might be your best defensive player 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.960 right now. I agree when you start to talk about 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.200 with I mean, I get it, Michael Parsons, you're gonna 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:41.880 tell me Michael. 0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:43.799 Parsons, No, but Louis absolutely. 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.719 I mean from down after down after down after down, 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:50.759 good or bad, up by never up, up by a 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.320 little or getting really beat, Jordan Lewis is a good player. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.840 For honestly, those three plus Cavante turpin Is, to me 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.160 are the priorities for the soft season. In my opinion. 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.160 If you can get those guys and keep them here, 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.040 then I think you're you're working with something. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:03.880 I don't know. 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:09.359 I don't know about Osa, the third guy. Just two 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:09.879 up and down. 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.000 You need you need beef in the interior and he's 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.640 an undersized three tech. At the end of the day, 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.120 I would just like a little bit more physicality and 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.080 the I I would completely rehaul the interior. 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:19.600 Here's what I don't like. But I don't like. 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.840 It's just trying to tell you he loves this defensive 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:22.840 tackle drave No. 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.799 I like that concept. Problem. My problem is, man, there's 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.600 so many areas of this team I'm gonna need to address. 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.000 I don't know if I want to take that one. 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:37.360 Like I got a guy who's serviceable to good at INOSA, 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:39.320 Like I don't feel like I need to go crazy, 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.359 Like I don't have to replace that one. There are 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.320 other areas where I fel like I gotta do something, 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.279 so I just want to. I want to cover my base. 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.960 So for me, it's worth And I don't think this 0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:50.160 is knock on wood. I don't think you're gonna have 0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.520 to break the bank for an OSA And now, if 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.600 you have to do that, then let him walk. I 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.759 think you could probably get a deal that makes sense, 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.040 that's doable, that that makes him happy and makes the 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.960 team happy and fits within the confines of whatever they're 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:03.120 yeah restraints. 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.800 That we're in at fourteen to seven games, fourteen to 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.439 seventeen game window where traditionally he doesn't play very well. Yeah, 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:10.799 all right, let's see, let's see. 0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.319 Yeah, Ine, all right, appreciate you guys joining us. We'll 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.200 be back tomorrow. We're going to do. We gotta jump. 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.200 We got a quick week coming up here. So tomorrow 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.920 we get into the Giants offense versus Dallas defense. 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