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Speaker 3: Oh, welcome in to the Sam Donald Show with my

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Speaker 3: best friend Sam.

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Speaker 1: Darnaldkyl of being here. Worst super Bowl ever, worst super

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Speaker 1: Bowl ever? Your so just for you is the yeah

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Speaker 1: for you, not for America ever that I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: you xenophobic. This is the worst. Blame me, hatred, a

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Speaker 1: bad bunny? How about that? Jason Smith hates bad bunny,

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Speaker 1: worst super Bowl ever, calls it worst super Bowl ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: yuh oh. I can just like I could you attribute

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Speaker 1: that to you? But I don't think that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I'll just contribute it to you. You know I I,

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Speaker 1: you know, landa last week and I said to myself, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good. I picked the Rams and the

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Speaker 1: Broncos preseason for the Super Bowl. Feeling great. Jason apologized

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Speaker 1: that Sam Darling. Now the way, hang on, hang on, Frostburg, America.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of hanging on. Hang on. I was feeling

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Speaker 1: really good about those, really good about that pick. I

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Speaker 1: was feeling great, and then this weekend happened. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got my picks right. And then only because you put

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Speaker 1: it out there to manifest against me. I know that's

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Speaker 1: why you did it well as my financial best interest,

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Speaker 1: because I actually had live bets on both of the

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Speaker 1: other teams. Conference. I mean, you only did that to

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Speaker 1: manifest to man congratulations because you made it happen because

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Speaker 1: super Bowl ever, that means I am the third of

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Speaker 1: the Mighty Mics this weekend, Michael McDonald, because if we

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Speaker 1: don't have Doobie Brothers all night long, we've failed. We've

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Speaker 1: got Mike Vrabel and me. All right, I'll put that.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. Well I had a fourth today.

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Speaker 1: It's the Four Horsemen because it's the fortieth anniversary at

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Speaker 1: Ditka being carried off. Okay, all right, forty six dead,

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Speaker 1: I'll put. Okay, So then Ditka over Harmon. Who mentioned Ditka?

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Speaker 1: So Harmon comes in fourth with Ditka third. But that's

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Speaker 1: what it was so so get bumped off the metal

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Speaker 1: stand from my own reference, well, we kind of have to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the greater of all I mean in

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Speaker 1: this in the skit, Ditka doesn't lose to anybody. No,

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Speaker 1: he can't. He doesn't lose to any the entire world.

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Speaker 1: The worst super Bowl I mean, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: first of all, when I thought about you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking it's it's still kind of abstracted. But are they

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Speaker 1: both really gonna win? Are they are both the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna have to watch as a Jet fan,

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Speaker 1: the worst super Bowl that you could ever have in

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Speaker 1: the history of Super Bowls. I thought I thought Giants

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Speaker 1: Patriots was bad. A few years ago. I was at

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Speaker 1: that I was on the sideline for that game, and

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Speaker 1: I had to watch. I thought that was bad.

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Speaker 1: First, Jets would be, do you think anybody would even

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Speaker 1: watch that bad? Every day they battle, they would watch

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Speaker 1: he would cancel that Super Bowl? Man a line to

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Speaker 1: watch that apologize Civil Wars super Bowl. I meant Jets

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Speaker 1: not only to have to watch the Patriots after hey,

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Speaker 1: two decades of a run unlike we have seen in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, right, and they went Okay? Now, they're just

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Speaker 1: like everybody else. They start losing, they fired their coach,

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Speaker 1: they get a new coach. Oh no, no, one year

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Speaker 1: the guy shows up four and thirteen. Team, Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: flipping that record around. And now we're in the bleeping

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. And you know what, my roster wasn't great.

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Speaker 1: His roster wasn't great, wasn't unbel leave. But what did

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Speaker 1: he do? He came in, He did the right things.

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Speaker 1: He banged out dense, he inserted his culture. Well, I

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Speaker 1: have to tear this down to the studs. No, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to. You don't have to clearly, and he

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Speaker 1: We can put our own culture in there. Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: the same guys. Don't got to get rid of everybody,

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Speaker 1: don't gotta tear it all down. No, no, no, my guy,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Lynn, who was the culture I know, And I

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Speaker 1: had to watch all of a sudden, Mike Rabel now

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Speaker 1: this is worse than the first time around where we

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Speaker 1: they were deflating footballs and all this stuff, and Okay, no,

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Speaker 1: other side, I actually started thinking, would it be worse

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Speaker 1: if the Giants were in it? Like, no, it's worse

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Speaker 1: because now I thought, Okay, who am I going to

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Speaker 1: root for the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Because I have I have the team that that, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then I have then I have the team where, hey,

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Speaker 1: it right for us now, and I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: blame the Jets. Well, I guess I can blame the Jets,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like they didn't give him the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was great. We should actually be

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Speaker 1: more upset with the Vikings what they did, because they

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Speaker 1: kicked him out when he was good. We kicked out

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald when he stunk. So there's that. But now

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Speaker 1: sure he wore your stink. Yeah he was. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: clearly we weren't the right system. It's a long time

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Speaker 1: had to kick him out, all right, and I'm okay, Sam,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for him, right, Obviously, I'm happy for Sam

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Speaker 1: donalks he was he was a good dude when he

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Speaker 1: I'd probably pull for the Seahawks. But then I start thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP trophy over to Sam Darnold, who thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: different days and finally get it right and not just

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, then I realized that might depress me

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Speaker 1: even more than watching Vrabel and Drake may Like, like

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Speaker 1: But then I realized what that what that optic is

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Speaker 1: I thought that that might depress me even more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Super Rolls on NBC, so it would be

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Speaker 1: cracks about Sam compared to Patrick Mahomes, Maybe because he

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes out a play. But you

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Speaker 1: and I felt for you to a degree. But it's

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Speaker 1: the convergence of all all bad things. And you could say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald took him four more teams before it really

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, Denver would have won that game, because then

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Speaker 1: that very well could have happened. And if Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: And here we go and then you know, the game

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Speaker 1: is what it is. Second half doesn't look any thing

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Speaker 1: like the first. Suddenly we're on haff But for you,

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Speaker 1: I I understand the vexation and the fear that New

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Speaker 1: the division for another decade. Now, Drake may imperfect and

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Speaker 1: this playing this game as we're watching it that the

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Speaker 1: most laughable thing ever was the how Romo assessed Drake

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Speaker 1: There's there's no question. Hard Man, I thought it would

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm like, no, you Jets, like we told you,

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Speaker 1: you tried to sell this all year, tried to sell

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Speaker 1: all last year when he was in Minnesota in a

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Speaker 1: replaces Geno Smith, and here he is is it because

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Speaker 1: to think just I don't know that I've ever been

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Speaker 1: as close to the Super Bowl as seeing a guy

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Speaker 1: that we dragged to be our franchise and you should

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Speaker 1: own it like I do by Hall of famers and

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Speaker 1: hoist the super Bowl Trophy with somebody else. But Andrew

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold can be that Jets legend for you. I

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, I haven't. No, I haven't gotten to that

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Speaker 1: somebody hoist in Lombardi Trophy. That would really just like

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Speaker 1: punch me in the gut because it's not like so

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Speaker 1: many other people because the Jets don't draft. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not like I have to see a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like I had to watch Revus go win sure with

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Revis won, but that's fine. He was

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Speaker 1: them money that we shouldn't pay it. That was the

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Speaker 4: And the Patriots serve credit for all this, and like, again,

428
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Speaker 4: you can't take this away from them, but I think

429
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Speaker 4: this is about to be a major step up in

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Speaker 4: white class.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking the same thing, Jay, But it's

432
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Speaker 1: hard for me to sit back and go, well, every

433
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Speaker 1: single game you can point to and say the Patriots

434
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Speaker 1: weren't supposed to win, and what happened they wound up winning?

435
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean is that? I mean they've been doing it

436
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 1: the entire not supposed to win this game play, Nope,

437
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Speaker 1: won that, not supposed to win this one, No won that,

438
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: not suppose like they've done not supposed to do it

439
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Speaker 1: all the way to the super Bowl. It's hard to

440
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Speaker 1: me to think that in the end they're really going

441
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Speaker 1: to not find a way in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's hard I.

443
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Speaker 4: Mean, well, they're really not supposed to do it because

444
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Speaker 4: I think if you go back and look at their

445
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Speaker 4: money line in your money line favorite quart bit, you

446
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Speaker 4: know what I mean, like and even I mean, well,

447
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 4: they're not supposed to be dender. I don't know, I

448
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: remember it opening it even though they're the road team

449
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Speaker 4: of five and a half point favorite, and they dip

450
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Speaker 4: it a little bit, but they were still a favorite,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: They yeah, but I mean they're coming in.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to wait against the Chargers. Like I'm

454
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Speaker 4: just saying. They're big wins like the Ravens. I mean,

455
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Speaker 4: I don't think they might not. They weren't the favorite

456
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Speaker 4: against the Ravens, but I mean the Ravens were flugazy.

457
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Speaker 4: They're about to fire their coach, right, I'm just going That's.

458
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Speaker 1: What I mean.

459
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Speaker 4: I feel.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's like all these things, well, they

461
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Speaker 1: shouldn't win this one, but the Ravens are going to

462
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Speaker 1: fire their coach. They were a mess that the Chargers

463
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Speaker 1: have no to protect Justin Herbert. All of a sudden,

464
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Speaker 1: C J. Stroud puts up two games in a row

465
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Speaker 1: that he's the worst quarterback in the NFL and now

466
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Speaker 1: bo Nicks gets hurt. Like it seems it's all falling

467
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Speaker 1: in line for the Patriots. I can't believe it's not

468
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Speaker 1: gonna fall in line for them one more time.

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Speaker 4: Ooh yeah. I mean, look, maybe I think they're gonna

470
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Speaker 4: need a whole lot more o the quarterback. Like everybody

471
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Speaker 4: talking about what they've done defensively, and that's great, but

472
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Speaker 4: they're about to face a team that's gonna push the

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Speaker 4: ball downfield onlike anything they seem. I mean even the

474
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Speaker 4: Texans game, Ego Collins didn't play you know what I mean,

475
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Speaker 4: and then it became a blizzard like and they played

476
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Speaker 4: the wrong quarterback in the second half, Like I don't know,

477
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Speaker 4: that's a big boy offense from Seattle, and it's a

478
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Speaker 4: defense that Frankly, who's winning against that defense? Like you're

479
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Speaker 4: telling me it's defon David and bouts A and freaking

480
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Speaker 4: Hunter Henry are gonna win against that defense. I don't

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Speaker 4: believe you. Like I just I'm sorry. I don't like

482
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Speaker 4: either running back is winning against the teacher. I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: they're gonna run Drake May twenty times. I mean they

484
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Speaker 4: probably should like that. How they stay in the game,

485
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Speaker 4: I mean, waiting for the second half they run him.

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Speaker 4: It's silly, like that's their offics. It's to me a

487
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 4: bit of a junk offense right now, like it's it's streetball,

488
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Speaker 4: you know, it's it's and that's worked to this point,

489
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Speaker 4: and it was enough, you know, on a day where

490
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Speaker 4: Stidham wasn't going to put up anything after one Detril

491
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Speaker 4: the Mims or whatever like okay and Stroud put up nothing.

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Speaker 4: And that's and Herbert always melts down in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I think this is where the

494
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Speaker 4: story ends. I think one of these team things is

495
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Speaker 4: not like the other. But I'm not dismissing what New

496
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Speaker 4: England's done to get here, and clearly New England's had

497
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Speaker 4: the secret sauce. But I think again, I think this

498
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Speaker 4: isn't going to be different even see how special teams

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Speaker 4: than what they get out of the turn game russ

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Speaker 4: As says the Seheed trade. I just think it's come

501
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Speaker 4: to too much.

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Speaker 1: Four and a half point favorites as we said here,

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Speaker 1: now forty five and a half the total, plenty of

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Speaker 1: time to go. And then obviously I say play word association.

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Speaker 1: I say, Sam Darnald, what say you?

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Speaker 4: I mean revenge reforms redire. I like that revitalized. Good

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Speaker 4: for him, man, I had to see to believe it.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you. And part of the reason

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Speaker 4: I leaned to their answer was just that Donald factor

510
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Speaker 4: and would he especially against that And I'm not a

511
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Speaker 4: big crystal with guy, but he had difficulty with that defense.

512
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Speaker 4: He had difficulty with that defense when he was in Minnesota.

513
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Speaker 4: So I just wondered if he would make a critical mistake.

514
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Speaker 4: If he didn't, then the next people up on my

515
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Speaker 4: list to do so would have been Rams special teams.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I got trained. Now, that's a

517
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Speaker 4: train that's always all the time. Yeah, that you know,

518
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Speaker 4: you could set you you could set your plot to

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Speaker 4: that one. That's the midnight out of Munich going to

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Speaker 4: Berlin overnight. That that thing's on time, eight days a week.

521
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Speaker 4: So yeah, Like there were two things in that game

522
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Speaker 4: that I thought could be double agen and whichever one

523
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Speaker 4: showed up was going to be different. Will it be

524
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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold in the red jone for Seattle or will

525
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Speaker 4: it be somebody on punt return kickoff return kickoff coverage?

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Speaker 4: You know, would they get a field goal block for

527
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Speaker 4: a touchdown? The other way, what will the Rams do

528
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Speaker 4: to conspire against the Rams from a special team standpoint?

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Speaker 4: And well, that was probably the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just for the Rams real fast. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions about Matthew Stafford and what's

532
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Speaker 1: going to happen next year, and he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: commit to anything in the postgame, and I get it

534
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Speaker 1: right after the game is over. But I got to think, Jay,

535
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Speaker 1: this is going to be the same thing Matthew Safford's

536
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Speaker 1: done the last couple of off seasons b KG try

537
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Speaker 1: to find a way to get more money and then

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Speaker 1: announce he's coming back and coming off the year he's

539
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Speaker 1: gonna win the MVP. He's going to get a lot

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Speaker 1: more money than Rams are going to have to do

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Speaker 1: something for him. So I just think this is this

542
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: is all part of the negotiation with Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, look, he could take I think

544
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Speaker 4: we've seen things sort of evolve in this game and

545
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: what really matters and what doesn't. And I know that

546
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: we've turned OTAs into up we're taking attendance and we're

547
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: upsetting about who's got callses that make them show up

548
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: in Othas and who doesn't. But it's faked football. I mean,

549
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: this guy's an extension on McVeigh at this point. And

550
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: you know what, they probably need to get a better

551
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 4: look at the kid from Georgia, you know what I mean. Whoever,

552
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: like they do need to have a next person out there.

553
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: And so yeah, like even the Aaron Rogerston last year

554
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: where he had never been there before, he had never

555
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 4: worked with Arthur Smith before, he'd never Benefitsburgh dealer before.

556
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: You know, when he signs right before mini camp and

557
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it was great and almost thought would

558
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 4: be great, but it was still functional enough right to

559
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Speaker 4: get into the playoffs and win a division. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to worry about And look,

561
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 4: there's a pretty decent chance that his back's in a

562
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Speaker 4: lot better shape this offseason than whatever was going on

563
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Speaker 4: last offseason. So I think they still need help on defense,

564
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I think I know there's been

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Speaker 4: this anointing of Chris Shuler, but that defense from Road

566
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Speaker 4: in the second half against the run and against the pass,

567
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Speaker 4: and you know, Emmanuel Forbes and some of those things,

568
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: like they were great value signings and they did the trick.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think I think it's not going

570
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Speaker 4: to get a little better on the back end and

571
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Speaker 4: that will allow them to be a little bit more

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Speaker 4: aggressive with the pass rushers. And we're saying all that.

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Speaker 4: I still think they were the best team in the

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Speaker 4: NFL this year, but you know that's not going on

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Speaker 4: the mount. That's going to not amount to anything because

576
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Speaker 4: they found ways to lose too many games they should

577
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Speaker 4: have won.

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Speaker 1: Find their way to the outs. All right, real quick,

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Speaker 1: you're out there on the East coast, Baltimore Ravens. You

580
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Speaker 1: got a new head coach. Is anybody actually going to

581
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Speaker 1: take the OC job with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. It's a critical hire. Jefse Mentor.

583
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Speaker 4: I thought he'd be the head coach of the Ravens

584
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: before Horball was black. It was. It was pretty pretty

585
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: well telegraphed. But the question was going to be who

586
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 4: can you put around him to intubate him and let

587
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: him focus on the things he doesn't do naturally, which

588
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: is everything about that job other than call plays for

589
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: the defense on Sunday. And I got news for you.

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: The head coach is responsibilities on Sunday way beyond calling

591
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: plays for a defense so I think it's like I

592
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: think Brian Davile was a guy that I would be

593
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Speaker 4: trying to move heaven and Earth to get. I think

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Speaker 4: he's an option, and then everything after that is not

595
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Speaker 4: the same. I mean recent head coaching experience, doing it

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Speaker 4: in New York, doing it on, you know, in a

597
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 4: very public way. Some of his missteps were very public too,

598
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: but that's what you learned. You learn from your mistakes

599
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: as much as you learn from your successes. And I

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Speaker 4: think they need multiplet somebody on the defensive side of

601
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Speaker 4: the building who's been a head coach before. And I

602
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 4: damn sure I think the OC or the special teams

603
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Speaker 4: coach should have been someone who at least has been

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Speaker 4: an room head coach and had some experience walking in

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Speaker 4: front of fifty three guys or sixty one with the

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Speaker 4: practice squad or whatever, and you know, preparing a whole

607
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: team for a week, not just one side of the ball,

608
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: practice schedules and logistics, and guys have family issues and

609
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Speaker 4: on that. There's just so much that goes into being

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Speaker 4: the head coach that honestly has nothing to do with

611
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Speaker 4: calling defensive place for three hours on a Sunday afternoon

612
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Speaker 4: which is why he's getting hired. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: the totality of that staff is going to be a

614
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Speaker 4: big deal. And Jesse Minter never put a staff together,

615
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Speaker 4: and Eric Ticosta medals and everything in that building and

616
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Speaker 4: it's all under his offices. But I got news for you.

617
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Speaker 4: He can't put a good enough personel staff together. You

618
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: don't have a coaching staff. But now he's going to

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Speaker 4: do it. Oh yeah, and the team president of Saucy

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Speaker 4: Brown rumbol enough to remember what Owen sixteen is the

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Speaker 4: general manager of the Cleveland Brown, So god speed.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, he's on Twitter at Jason Locke and

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Speaker 1: four that is at Jason Locke and FORA one oh

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Speaker 1: five seven the fan in Baltimore Wanna bet Odyssey, Washington Post,

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00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 1: and on YouTube watching all of Pete Alonzo's best home

626
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Speaker 1: runs of the Mets, envisioning them for his Baltimore orioles.

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Speaker 1: Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: How are going see anybody there?

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Speaker 4: You go?

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Speaker 1: Always great stuff with Jason Lock and for at Jason Smith,

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Time

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Speaker 1: now to find out what's trending in the wide world

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Speaker 1: of sports? From Special Delivery Steve the Saga SB what

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Speaker 1: do you got for us?

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Speaker 7: As you mentioned Super Bowl coming up a week from Sunday,

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00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 7: and it's Drake May facing a Seattle defense. It was

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Speaker 7: not just top scoring defense, only allowing seventeen points a game,

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Speaker 7: number six in total defense and the playoff run He's had,

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Speaker 7: Drake May. They just beat the Broncos, who were number

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Speaker 7: two in total defense this year, the Texans who were

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Speaker 7: number one, and the Chargers, who had the number five

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Speaker 7: total defense. No quarterback had ever defeated three top five

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Speaker 7: defenses in a single postseason, and he largely did it

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Speaker 7: on the ground. He's getting sacked a ton, there are turnovers,

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Speaker 7: but in the regular season, New England with that schedule

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Speaker 7: had faced just one top five defense, the Browns in

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Speaker 7: Week number eight. We've got coaching news to pass along,

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Speaker 7: as the Lions are hiring Mike Kafka as an offensive assistant.

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Speaker 7: He was Giants interim head coach. SNYTV reports the Jets

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Speaker 7: are working on a deal with Frank Reich, who was

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Speaker 7: Stanford interim coach this past year, to be on the

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Speaker 7: Jets offensive staff.

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Speaker 1: Washington or to be the quarterback. He's only sixty four.

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Speaker 1: He could also play quarterback. Just got to put in

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Speaker 1: that video with a big comeback against the Oilers from Yah.

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Speaker 1: That's the stuff of legends. I just saw a documentary

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Speaker 1: on that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: By the way, as he was talking, Jason was talking about,

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Speaker 7: you know, you need a veteran head coach, somebody with

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Speaker 7: the defensive background. So what I'm reading into that is

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Speaker 7: Pete Carroll's going to get hired by the Ravens right, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 7: and all will be well, and then I'll hire a

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Speaker 7: stun his offensive line coach and onto the Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: or not. Washington's new defensive coordinator is Deronte Jones, who

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Speaker 7: was Minnesota's defensive backs coach of the Chargers officially hired

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Speaker 7: Mike McDaniels off defensive coordinator, and the Chargers gave defensive

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Speaker 7: tackle Tier Tarta three year extension. Quarterback Shador Sanders will

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Speaker 7: be in next week's Pro Bowl Flag football game, replacing

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Speaker 7: Drake May, and quarterback Jared Goff will replace Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 7: Bill's tight end Dalton Kincaid replaces Travis Kelcey, and Seattle

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Speaker 7: return man Rashid Shaheed is being replaced by the Cowboys

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Speaker 7: Cavante Turpin. ACC football will hold its championship game at

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Speaker 7: noon Eastern Time in December instead of at night, opposite

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Speaker 7: the Big Ten final. The Big Twelve championship game is

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Speaker 7: moving to a Friday night. The ACC today released its

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Speaker 7: schedule for twenty twenty six. Bill Belichick's North Carolina team

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Speaker 7: will open in Dublin against TCU, and there's an NC

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Speaker 7: State versus Virginia matchup in Rio. Most of the ACC

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Speaker 7: teams are playing nine conference games this year. The San

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Speaker 7: Francisco Giants gave centerfielder Harrison Bader a two year deal.

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Speaker 7: At the Australian Open tonight, Number one Arena, Sabolenka advanced

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Speaker 7: on the ladies' side. In the NBA, the Lakers won

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Speaker 7: at Chicago one twenty nine, one to eighteen. Player the

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Speaker 7: Week in the West, Luka Doncic had forty six points

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Speaker 7: eleven assists. Tonight at Cleveland, Donovan Mitchell forty five points

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Speaker 7: in a Cabs win over Orlando one fourteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 7: Daytime victory is at home for Atlanta and Charlotte. Game

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Speaker 7: times for those two were moved up due to weather

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Speaker 7: and in the NHL the LA at Columbus game was

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Speaker 7: postponed by severe weather. New York Rangers be Boston in

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Speaker 7: overtime for to three. By the way, in the NBA

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Speaker 7: right now, Minnesota, even without Anthony Edwards tonight and his bedfoot,

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Speaker 7: Minnesota has a halftime lead on what's left of Golden

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Speaker 7: State fifty three thirty eight Draymond Green out with a

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Speaker 7: sore bag. Steph Curry out with the sore knee. Golden

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Speaker 7: State doing its forty nine ers impersonation on the rush.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, rick Berry has eighteen so far. I

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Speaker 1: just want to see him at the foul line. He

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Speaker 1: is perfect from the f line. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he is perfect underhead. It's working great, yes, yeah, thank you, Steve,

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Mike Harman love from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Well,

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Speaker 1: coming off the AFC and NFC Championship games, you didn't

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Speaker 1: think we'd get a more shocking headline on Monday in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but we did. What is it that's next?

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Speaker 1: Right here, Jake.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: We have the most surprising NFL story of the weekend

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Speaker 1: coming up in a minute. But first, it's the Play

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Speaker 1: play of the day should be Luka dancicen his forty

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Speaker 1: six point night tonight and the Lakers win over the Bulls. However,

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Speaker 1: I believe Frostburg is making an exception for this.

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Speaker 8: O JSN now comes into the backfield. Sam out of

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Speaker 8: the shotgun, looks steps throws back Carter.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown, Say Hawks.

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Speaker 6: Jay f n on the left side, wide open, and

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Speaker 6: you'll love to see defensive back stop and look at

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Speaker 6: each other and say, who.

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Speaker 1: The hell's supposed to cover?

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Speaker 4: You think?

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Speaker 8: Sam Darnold now goes under center with Walker behind him.

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Speaker 8: Fight outs to both sides, play faith Donald looks now

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Speaker 8: he's gonna throw back to the end up.

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Speaker 5: HiT's gold touch down, Say Hawks.

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Speaker 6: Jake Bobo might have been the third guy in the progression,

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Speaker 6: but he lines up left side, gets under the goalpost,

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Speaker 6: and Sam just throws a row out of the shotgun.

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Speaker 1: Here comes a four man Rams rush. Sam steps up,

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Speaker 1: goes back inside.

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Speaker 6: Come make the catch, touchdown, Sayhawks. The former Ram Super

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Speaker 6: Bowl MVP now the Seahawks, and he has another.

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Speaker 1: Big catas we're just preparing you for Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you are. I'm sure you're preparing me. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure boiling you up, baby, getting ready like I we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go shoot another beach volleyball scene the top gun

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Speaker 1: ready to go playing with the balls. Yeah, sure, either

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Speaker 1: that or yeah we got our grease fan. Yeah we

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Speaker 1: played volleyball and Jean Shorts is that what I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: on this. So there's your play of the day, Seahawks

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Speaker 1: Radio Network everything. Sam Darnald from a day ago playing

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Speaker 1: another great game, maybe his best game ever considering the

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Speaker 1: pressure and everything goes along with it. He's had big

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Speaker 1: games the last couple of years. But here he is

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Speaker 1: and now Sam Darnold, former Jets legend, is in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. When you get that forty one yarder to

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Speaker 1: get things darted and everybody went, oh, look at him.

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Speaker 1: He's got cold blooded now, just like Matthew Stafford's backy

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Speaker 1: out of me from the off season. How hurt was

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald?

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Speaker 8: Really?

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Speaker 1: That's the question I have to keep asking. I mean

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Speaker 1: or conversely, hey, I'll have what he's having, you know,

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Speaker 1: one or the other. Now, what what is more surprising?

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Speaker 1: I'm asking this? Give me honest answer? Right, you got

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Speaker 1: gut answer the day Sam Donald had yesterday?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Answer? Championship game? Got a visuals or Shadoor Sanders making

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl today? I believe in Sam when nobody

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Speaker 1: did surprise. I had some Mike harmon Home for wayward quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The number of people that are just losing their minds

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Speaker 1: over Shadeur Sanders going to the Pro Bowl games. It's

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Speaker 1: not even a game games. When I see people on

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Speaker 1: Twitter go, I remember when the Pro Bowl used to

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Speaker 1: mean something? All, yeah, exactly, the Pro Bowl doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl games don't mean anything. You're really that upset

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Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence said, No, Yeah, you could have asked

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Speaker 1: a lot of other guys, but you could have asked

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Speaker 1: to what you could have asked Lamar Jackson. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they're you were bereft all of a sudden, You're

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Speaker 1: down to a guy that, through seven touchdowns and teen

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Speaker 1: Flacco played for a lot of teams. He was qualified,

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Speaker 1: he played for those breath Look, I mean, we understand

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Speaker 1: this is not something brand new with the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but this shows you that the the hatred that people

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Speaker 1: have for Shador Sanders knows no bounds. You could have

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Speaker 1: put Jackson Dart in the Pro Bowl and people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: what a great pick, He's got a great future. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's awesome, awesome. It just matters what the narrative is.

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Speaker 1: But people have decided, oh, I don't like Shador Sanders. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: does he deserve to be in the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 4: No? But do I care? No?

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Speaker 1: Because the Pro Bowl games. It's carnival games. They're they're

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're doing ring toss and and and

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Speaker 1: trying to win stuffed animals. And the guys they're saying, well,

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Speaker 1: give me another five dollars to give you a chance

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Speaker 1: to win this other big one. Now that that's what

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl is, man, I really I can't believe

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Speaker 1: it's this much of a I can't believe the sanctity

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Speaker 1: of the NFL isn't at stake now because Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: is in the Pro Bowl games. Games. Yeah, take these three,

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Speaker 1: you could trade up to the bigger prize. No, all

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Speaker 1: of that. And it's something well to ask Jason Cole

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Speaker 1: later on this week, right, because once upon a time,

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Speaker 1: the resume and the arguments when you're trying to talk

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Speaker 1: about the Pro Football Hall of Fame or any of

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Speaker 1: the Halls of Fame, the All Star Games and in

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Speaker 1: this case, the Pro Bowls, they used to matter. When

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Speaker 1: was that line of demarcation? Was it when it became

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Speaker 1: officially a flag football game? Or had the sanctity of

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Speaker 1: that been torn off years ago? Now with Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 1: we all have to remember this. It is still a

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Speaker 1: TV show that they're trying to get people to watch.

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Speaker 1: So for people that get excited that Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 1: getting some love here, you might have picked up a

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Speaker 1: couple of viewers. For those that don't care, You don't care.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 1: That's great that yeah. Wait, well, because everybody goes to

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Speaker 1: the crutches of you know, some of these metrics, and

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Speaker 1: particularly the quarterback rating, it was like fifty eighth or

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Speaker 1: some don right, But who's going to be there and

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Speaker 1: say stuff? And maybe he says something? Ain't saying everything

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Speaker 1: else where? You pay attention that the Pro Bowl games

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Speaker 1: actually exist? What's two we're gonna say? I need a

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Speaker 1: fresh start. I gotta get out man. Okay, okay, you're

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Speaker 1: not even gonna be the quarterback there? What did you

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Speaker 1: really think of Mike McDaniel? What's Gino Smith gonna say

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Speaker 1: when he's there? Gina, that's a lot of interceptions. Do

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Speaker 1: you think you'll throw less in the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 1: Hey too, let's play word association. Does he deserve to

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Speaker 1: be that?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But I mean, really this we've seen this with the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. I mean, let's let's understand that there's there's

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Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry another place. We went to six

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Speaker 1: or seventh alternates for years. Exit ov out of Fresca,

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Speaker 1: Exit Swollen, dumb, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up next. A guy who's

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Speaker 1: gonna think about the conference championship game, one of them

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Speaker 1: every day for the rest of his life. Fox was

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Speaker 1: so positive. He was on the light side and everything

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Speaker 1: else and immaculately conceived or whatever it was, and now

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Speaker 1: here now it would now he's just he's just he's

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Speaker 1: just killing younglings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then in that Obi Wan Kenobi series, one of

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Speaker 1: them tries to get back. I mean, like, what chaos

856
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: comes out of this? I mean, come on, as tough

857
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: as it is for me, because it is tough for me,

858
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: it's I'm psychologically no, no no. As those games went

859
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: final yesterday, there was the Now, first off, I had

860
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: to hear from all my friends that are Patriot fans

861
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: like their long nightmare was over, to which I responded,

862
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: tomorrow is forty years since the Super Bowl we won.

863
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Now obviously, Prince down in Miami Purple Rain, losing to

864
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Lovey Smith against Tony Dungee, all of that stuff.

865
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: Rex Grossman. That was great Devin Hester returns the opening kickoff,

866
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: and that was it. That was the end of my highlights.

867
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah for the night, but we at least got there

868
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: for you miserable, but like I'm sitting there wall, I'm

869
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: sorry you suffered so long, Like get the dude. If

870
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: I if I had friends who were paid first, I

871
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't have friends who are patriots. Fancy be impossible, But

872
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: I would have been like, like, if they start hitting

873
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: my phone, I would have been like, uh, I want

874
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: to spoiler, because it's just like a character in The

875
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Rip who knows they're going to die and just throws

876
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: their phone in the water so the bad guys can't

877
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: get it. I would just say, I can't even have

878
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: that wymore. That was good, No, that I gotta go

879
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: back in. There's a lot of unsaid, like one of

880
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: those yeah, like there's a few scenes where like you

881
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: really have to pay attention.

882
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: Oh.

883
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: The thing is, normally there's a bunch of dialogue that

884
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: covers up that. Here there's just a lot of the

885
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: look and stare and whatever like, so really, lock in, folks.

886
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: The Rip is one of those movies where I watched

887
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the first hour and ten minutes and I said, oh,

888
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: this is pretty fun. But I'm like, boy, there seems

889
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: to be some inconsistencies. And I'm like, yeah, and I

890
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: told you, I got about forty five minutes left. I said,

891
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: but so far it's fun, right, I mean everybody and

892
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: it's fun. And I'm like, okay, so far. And then

893
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: like as soon as we picked it up to watch

894
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the rest of it, a big scene happens and I go, oh, wow,

895
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And the next thing we did we finished,

896
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: we went back and watched it again up until that

897
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: point like, Okay, now I gotta go back and see

898
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: all of this it was and now I get it. Yeah,

899
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: there's a reason it's getting the repeat viewing and and

900
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: doing the numbers that it did for that first week. Yea,

901
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: so good for that. Two more Patriots fans, yeah blank them.

902
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Uh so.

903
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: But but the movie was good. The movie was see

904
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: how it all ties together. But look as bad as

905
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: it was for me, there is someone who was going

906
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: to have worse memories of Championship Sunday than me, which

907
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: superan going They're going to think about it every day

908
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives. Like how Seahawks fans

909
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: wake up every well, maybe not now, but Seahawks fans

910
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: wake up every day going, we should have another Super Bowl. No, no,

911
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: they still do. We should have. We should have, we

912
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: would have, and if they win in two weeks, it's

913
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna be we should have three. We have two now,

914
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: we should have three because we should have run the

915
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: football for a lot of those guys. I mean, that's

916
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame defining stuff. I mean, yeah, you know,

917
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and and people at Man like go do the math

918
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: on what on what that does for career post career earnings.

919
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: When you're able to add those little know, you know,

920
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: insignias and inscriptions to things that you're signing and that

921
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: you're part of. In terms of the merchandising in the NFL,

922
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: it is a much different level. You can say, all right, Jason,

923
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: I understand you're gonna have a tough time thinking with

924
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: this under the ayah and already you can see that

925
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: it's out there because he's talked about it. But Sean

926
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: Payton is going to think about the fourth down call

927
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: every day for the rest of his life. He's gonna

928
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and the first thought is

929
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: going to be, why didn't I kick the field goal?

930
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: Why didn't I kick the field goal? Why did I

931
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down? Why did I open

932
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: the door to let the Patriots back into the game.

933
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Why did I do that? Secondly is going to be

934
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: Jared Siddam, why did you try to throw the football?

935
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Hold on it would take a sack. But first is

936
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: going to be because that's the play that opened the door,

937
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: because you're looking at what's going to be a ten

938
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: to nothing lead, because you're still kicking a field goal

939
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: at that point. The weather's fine, everything's okay, it's not

940
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: so everything is good. You're up ten to nothing. But

941
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't kick it, and he's gonna think about it,

942
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: and you know what he should because of two reasons.

943
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: Number one was it probably heat check Sean Payton, because

944
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I think for some kind of coaches, I can do

945
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: whatever I want, regardless of the situation, regardless of my

946
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. We like to go for it. We can

947
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: do we can do its heat check. And it was

948
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: a bad play that was doomed from the beginning. And

949
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: you're Tony Romo talk about how Jared s Didham needed

950
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: to recognize this a little bit sooner, and look what happened.

951
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: The play was a disaster. They don't get the field goal.

952
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Of course we know after that Pagries go down, they

953
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: get the touchdown after the turnover, they kicked the field goal.

954
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: They win the game ten seven, But that play did it.

955
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: And this is why that was the wrong decision because

956
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: and we said this with the Lions two years ago

957
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game against the forty nine ers,

958
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: when they kept going for it on fourth down. And

959
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I told you, there's a difference between going for it

960
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: on fourth down because you like to do it and

961
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: it's part of your identity. There's a difference in doing

962
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: it week ten in Vegas and doing it at home

963
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game, and especially when you figure

964
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: you want to do it this time with a backup quarterback.

965
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: There's lots of things that can happen, lots of things.

966
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: And it's not like Jared Stidham had been having a

967
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: great game so far. He hit on one pass right

968
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: at one pass, that's great. So understand, yes it's fourth

969
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: and one, But this is why all the metrics that

970
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: say go for it on fourth all this all that

971
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: you throw it out the window. Because we always seem

972
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: to talk about Hey this wasn't this didn't go go

973
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: your way? So how does the math work out? Oh,

974
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: it always says to go for it. You don't play

975
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: these games and absolutes on pen and paper and using

976
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: erasers when when something doesn't go your way, right, we

977
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: don't play these games here. There's all sorts of real

978
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: life decisions that go into it, which is, how is

979
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: your quarterback playing you have a backup quarterback? What would

980
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: be the mental fallout of not getting this first down?

981
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: Right with what's going to happen? And all of a

982
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: sudden New England had life breathed back in because they

983
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: had done nothing offensively the entire game. Why would you

984
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: do that? But especially when you think about you have

985
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: to do this with a backup quarterback right now. You

986
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: and I differed when we talked about Dan Campbell going

987
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down the NFC Title game a

988
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, when you said, hey, Josh Reynold

989
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: should catch that pass, right the one pass of Josh

990
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Reynolds dropped on fourth down, and I said, I'm with you,

991
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: but you can't throw to your fourth receiver in the

992
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: a NFC Title game in the middle of third quarter,

993
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: early fourth quarter and not expect jennery hands. I might

994
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: drop this pass right now. Yeah, I get it, he

995
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: should catch that pass. But this is the NFC Championship game,

996
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: it's on the road, and things are really dicey. You

997
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: need to be cool under pressure and throwing to your

998
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: fourth receiver. Yeah, I'm not surprised he dropped it. Here's

999
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: the same situation. Wait, you're gonna trust your backup quarterback

1000
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: to do this, who's not been having a great game?

1001
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: You want confidence? How about kicking a field that Hey

1002
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: we got down there, we got the touchdown. If through

1003
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass you got a field goal, you're up

1004
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: ten nothing right. You're up ten, nothing right. And that's

1005
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: why when this happened, I said, this is the fall

1006
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: of This is gonna be absolutely epic. And the fallout

1007
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: when then bled over the rest of the game. So

1008
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: this is why all of the metrics of you should

1009
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down here on fourth and

1010
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: one or fourth and two, No, all that stuff goes

1011
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: out the window. This is the AFC Championship game and

1012
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: you're looking to win. And the thing that got me

1013
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: the most about it was hearing Sean Payton talk after

1014
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: the game and look I'm glad he's given he's taking

1015
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: responsibility for it, and he's owned it. But when he

1016
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 1: said he gave the wrong reason for why you would

1017
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down, he said, Man, I

1018
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: was just thinking, we get this, we get the ball

1019
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: in the end zone. It's fourteen to nothing with the

1020
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: way our defense is playing. Whoa good luck coming back,

1021
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: which in theory yes, right, but you also have to

1022
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: get the first down and then keep going and getting

1023
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: the end zone. But that's the bigger point. But the

1024
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: other thing is that if your defense is playing well,

1025
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: that's when you take the points. If your defense isn't

1026
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: playing well, I can see thinking, well, field goals aren't

1027
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: going to win this game, right, it's seventeen fourteen, we

1028
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: gotta go for it. Yes, But when it's seven to

1029
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: nothing and your defense is playing lights out, you always

1030
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: take the points. Like his logic as an NFL coach

1031
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: that's won the Super Bowl was so incredibly flawed, Like,

1032
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: how do you say, coach, are they're not doing anything?

1033
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Why aren't gonna let him back in the game? Kick

1034
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: the field goal to two score game? What are we doing?

1035
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: What are we doing? But so even I thought his

1036
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: reasoning was awful for it because it was opposite what

1037
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: logic says it would be. Well, but that's the thing.

1038
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: It's the smartest guy in the room theory and certainly

1039
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: down distance and game situations. Some of the most accomplished coaches,

1040
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: including the two we're talking about here, Sean Payton in

1041
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: this instance and Sean McVeigh go back. Mike McCarthy's got

1042
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: a new job. Plenty of late game management issues. We

1043
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: could do this all day with guys who won the

1044
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowls or been to Super Bowls. Of Wow, that's

1045
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting strategy. Let's see how it works

1046
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: out for him in this particular case. Your point is

1047
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: the latter point was the one that really stuck out

1048
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: to me. It's fourth and one from the fourteen and

1049
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: you call a play. That is, unless some miracle happens,

1050
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: he's not breaking the fourteen yards of the touchdown, which

1051
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: means you're setting up for another first and ten from

1052
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: wherever the thirteen to twelve. Say he gets four or

1053
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: five yards, you still gotta go do that again against

1054
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: that defense, which has been a slog to that point

1055
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: in the game except for the one big hit, right,

1056
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,479
Speaker 1: So you're probably getting that point so A, why aren't

1057
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: you running the football on fourth than one? Or B

1058
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: take your points and move on again. Your defense is

1059
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: playing very well. Backup quarterback, You and I and all

1060
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: the free world was watching the Weather channel on a

1061
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: secondary device. I have no doubt. So I can't believe

1062
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: that suddenly you're isolated. Nope, you get no weather reports.

1063
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: You're flying blind as to what's about to happen here

1064
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: in Denver. Right, so they knew the weather was gonna change.

1065
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: You knew the storm, you know, you didn't know how

1066
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: it would manifest. But also you're still realizing the opportunity

1067
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: when the wind does start swirling. And we watched it there.

1068
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: It's the best in times as the worst of times

1069
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: as a kicker in Denver, and we we've seen that

1070
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: where suddenly it's like you're kicking into a wall and

1071
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: the ball starts flying back at you at a rapid speed,

1072
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: you know, like you're in a sci fi movie. Sure,

1073
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: or you know wizards, but in this case, it's the

1074
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Take you three points and say, okay, Drake May who's

1075
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: been pretty generous with the football all postseason. It's been

1076
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: well chronicled. Yes, you have the potential explosives out of

1077
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: the run game with Henderson whatever, but they're using him

1078
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: as an extra and the running backs had to be

1079
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: used as extra blockers because Campbell had been so compromised

1080
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: the last couple of games. So there's this big chess

1081
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: match and you had what at the time was about

1082
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: as sure a field goal attempt as you can get well,

1083
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: and you know, and you think about this to look forward, right,

1084
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: we talk more about the metrics with the field goal.

1085
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: Is that okay, well here Jared Sidham failed on fourth down. Okay,

1086
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: it's failed on fourth down, got rushed, didn't recognize it,

1087
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: didn't make the play, made a bad throw incomplete right?

1088
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: What metrics also won't tell you how much do you

1089
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: think was in his head when they got the ball

1090
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: back and it's like, you know what, I have to uh,

1091
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: I got to make something happen here. I can't get

1092
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: sacked on here. I got to throw the ball away.

1093
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: And he turns the ball over and New England has

1094
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: the walk in touchdown and suddenly the game is tied.

1095
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: You don't know how much that's a mental effect on

1096
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: your quarterback when he's coming off the field, going, man,

1097
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: I've hit one pass and you know, now we just

1098
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: lost it on fourth down. I got to make something happen.

1099
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: So making something happen, sometimes it's forcing a ball where

1100
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. Sometimes it's trying to, you know, a

1101
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: heat check throw deeper over the middle. And sometimes it's well,

1102
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm being rushed. I'm just going to throw the ball

1103
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: away so I can avoid this twelve yard sack. And

1104
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: what happened him throwing the ball away gave the game

1105
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: to New England because they're able to walk in from

1106
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: a short yard out and tie the game at seven

1107
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: of the game that they were absolutely dominating. So there's

1108
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: all sorts of different variables that come into that decision

1109
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: that are not that are not broken down. Now, as

1110
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: you laid that out, and I've watched it a number

1111
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: of times, I keep wondering, should that have been an

1112
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: incomplete pass? So while he didn't have a normal throwing motion,

1113
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: wasn't that the same as a push forward? So why

1114
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: is that a fumble? There was a tool play that

1115
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: was just like that that was Oh no, he's throwing

1116
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: the ball forward. Oh okay, but that's what I meane, like, no,

1117
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: didn't he throw that forward? And then it's not clean

1118
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: and obviously his hand gets hit and never he got

1119
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: two hands on it. Well yeah, but either way. I mean,

1120
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: we've seen push passes all the time. I exhibit A.

1121
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: You've got fifteen Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen's in the

1122
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: last three years. He's walking on the field going, hey,

1123
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Mahomes would get that call. Why did not get it?

1124
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: That's right, Mahomes would get it. I showed up in

1125
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: a cowboy hat, damn it.