1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Podcast Playground, Taking a Walk with Buds Night, Well on 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Budds Night. I'm the host of the Taking a Walk 3 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: podcast series, Taking a Walk Boston Gems Special Edition. And 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: if you're a loyal follower of the show, we appreciate 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: your support. Definitely, always share, subscribe, review, continue to pass 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: the word, don't be shy about it. And if you're new, welcome. 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: I love connecting, certainly with old friends or connecting with 8 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: new friends for the Taking a Walk podcast series, and 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: so much of Taking a Walk is about the art 10 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: of storytelling. Everyone has a story to tell. And today's 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: guest he's got quite a story, quite a number of 12 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: stories to tell. He's an Emmy nominated, award winning He's 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: part of the secret society of the Farley Brothers. I 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: think is what I like to call it. Was a 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: club cool. Maybe we'll call it under the production banner 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: called Conundrum Entertainment. He's been part of the team behind 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: blockbuster hits like Something About Mary, Me Myself and Irene Shallow, 18 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: Howe Fever, Pitch Hall Pass, The Three Stooges, The Unbelievable, 19 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Dumb and Dumber, and that's about two billion in box 20 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: office sales. Can you say, two billion, it's amazing. I 21 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: don't think I know what that means. It's a nice 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: it's a nice ring, especially with the executives and the 23 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: folks that invest in us in the past, and it's amazing. 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: He's co founder CEO of a new venture which we'll 25 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: talk about as well, called Mudhouse Media. And I'm so 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: happy to be here in the Blue Hills way off 27 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the mean streets of Milton, Massachusetts with Chris Meyer. It's 28 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: so nice to see you. Chris. Hey buys, thanks for 29 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: having me, Thanks for being on taking a walk. Two billion? 30 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: How does that really? Does that really still give you 31 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: goosebumps when we talk about the impact of those films? Oh? Absolutely, 32 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean and again, you know I was I was 33 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: just a cog in the wheel. You know. The Fairly 34 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: Brothers are the ones the true maeshows and and masters 35 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: behind it, and I was able to become part of 36 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: their team and go along for the uh the ride. 37 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: But you know, when you think about that, you know, 38 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: the less than two percent of folks would go out 39 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: there to make it, you know, and I'm at the 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: bottom two percent of that. But I can't you know, 41 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I pinched myself all the time that I moved out 42 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles as a young man, you know, with 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: very little and at the right guys at the right time, 44 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: and went on an incredible journey with them across the world, 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: around the world, around the country and making some with 46 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty plus films and TV shows. Yeah, that is a ride. 47 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: So how did you first meet the guys I was 48 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: working at? I was working at a lounge slash nightclub. 49 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I had run out of money early on in my 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: early days of Los Angeles living in Venice, California, and 51 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: I needed a job. And I played a lot of 52 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: basketball at the time, and I met a lot of 53 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the guys I'm still friends with today on the basketball court. 54 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: And funny enough, I was walking around Santa Monica passing 55 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: my resume around and I was at a hot dog 56 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: stand and the gentleman of this music club that a 57 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: few folks had said we should go to. I like 58 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: the blues and I like music and was at the 59 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: hot dog stand and he had a hat on and 60 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: had the name of the club. I said, hey, man, 61 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: you worked there? Yeah? Yeah. I said, I don't really 62 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: need a job, you know, I'll do anything, And he said, 63 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you play hoop on the beach. I said, yes, I 64 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: played basketball on the beach. He said, do you want 65 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: to bounce? I need a bouncer. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, okay. 66 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: You know I needed the money, so I started bouncing there. 67 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: His name was Todd Christensen. He became my friend and 68 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: still my friend today and gave me a lot of 69 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: leeway in a long leash when I was working for 70 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: him to try to pursue you know, the entertainment space 71 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: in the film and TV space while I was there 72 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: while working for him, and I ended up bar backing 73 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: and then bar attending and through my career there. Early days, 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: the Fairly Brothers came in there, just before they became 75 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: the Fairly Brothers, and we just hit it off, just 76 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: coming from the same part of town, same sense of humor, 77 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: and you know, they're a little bit older than I, 78 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: but you know, we just hit it off. And they 79 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 1: had just finished I think PEN and I was getting 80 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: close to packing it in. You know, I'd been out 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: there five or six years and just you know, everyone's 82 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: lives they were growing back here and people you know, 83 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: buying homes and getting them getting out of law school 84 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: and MBAs and their lives are growing and I'm out 85 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: in La just you know, kind of spinning my wheels 86 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and trying to figure, you know, find my way. And 87 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I came. I came home for a death in the family. 88 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: And at that point I had made a decision maybe 89 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: to come back in about six months and start over. 90 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: And I always thought, as long as I gave it 91 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: a true valiant effort, and I was still, you know, 92 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: if it came back in my late twenties, I'm still 93 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: young enough to start over and get into something else. 94 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: And I went back to LA. I said, I'm gonna 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: give myself six more months, you know. And because at 96 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: that point I was just existing, you know, I wasn't 97 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: really enjoying much, and doing odd jobs. Yeah, I was 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: working at the bar. Was I was paing. This is 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: funny too. My first paid PA gig in Los Angeles 100 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: was on a Maco car commercial with Craig T. Nelson 101 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: in Charroo. Yeah. It was incredible, and I'm like, we 102 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: did like six of them in a row, you know, 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: and then you then there's no work for a while, 104 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: and then I'd PA and another mostly commercials uh And 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: then was she stitched together? Then? I think I think so, 106 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: I think she's been stitched from birth. Maybe she was 107 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: with She was very nice and spirited. She's always spirited, spirited. 108 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: That's twenty plus years. Xavier Couga, who was the band 109 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: leader and that was her husband. I think did she 110 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: did she start on like the Ed Sullivan show. Oh boy, 111 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm not there? Maybe no, no, not you but yeah, no, 112 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: got you there? Yeah. See she was a firebrand. Yeah 113 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: you know you were on you work? Yeah, I was 114 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: working at I was, I was working nights. You know, 115 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I ended up. I went for a brief moment two. 116 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's got this story right, and it's a challenge, 117 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: especially when you know, you know, born and raised, you're moving, 118 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: you know. I always I talked to a lot of 119 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: kids and even adults and mentor them on what you 120 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: need to have ready before you go, and try to 121 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: prep a network before you go. I didn't know anything 122 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: about that when I grew up. When I moved to 123 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I had never lived five minutes from my house. 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: And you were married then, No, I was single. Yeah, 125 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: it's twenty three years old. I went out there with 126 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: no money and no network. Want to make movies made 127 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: like Jesus Christ. What did me say, he thought they 128 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: thought you were nuts? Right? What about law school? Not going? Dad? So, 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: what would you have done if you didn't, you know, 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: sync up with the Fairly brothers? And she starked this 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: good question. I don't know what do you think you 132 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: would have done? Professional basketball? No? You know I always 133 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: thought about that, but you know, my height and ability 134 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: kept me from that. But uh, you know I thought 135 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: about being a firefighter. Yeah, my whole family's firefighters. It's 136 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: in my blood. So that was a possible default. That 137 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: was a possible default. I didn't really you know what, 138 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I didn't really think about what I would do next. 139 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: I had that always into my background because you know, 140 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I've always it's in my blood, as you know, the 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: son of a family of firefighters. But did you have 142 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: in your mind, like you know, something that you were 143 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: visualizing that was, you know, a definition of success. No, 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I just was at that time again, I was young. 145 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: I was just trying to make a living. Yeah you 146 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: know now you know then then you know, you know, 147 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: life gets takes you in certain paths, and I ended 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: up on the producing tract, right, and and that's what 149 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I ended up doing. So that started ultimately with the 150 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Fairlies yeah, I said, as their assistant. You know, they 151 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: were the first. I don't know about the first, but 152 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: at that time there were very few dual directors. I 153 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: think the Coen brothers were there. But you know, now 154 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it's commonplace you and I could direct together, you know, 155 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: and brothers, and it was pretty common. But back then 156 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: it was rare to have a duel, you know, not 157 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: it was pretty rare. There's very few of them at 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the time. So I started as their assistant and then 159 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: over the course of fifteen years, I moved up to 160 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: associate producer, co producer, producer and now partner with them 161 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: on certain projects. So what was the first just you know, 162 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: real project with them that you've worked on. I tell 163 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: everybody I was to date myself now, but I was 164 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, you know, coming out of the community college 165 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: in Mississippi to win the Super Bowl of Movies that year, 166 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: and that was Something About Mary. Yeah. So with that, 167 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: with the success of Something About Mary, the filmmaker's dream 168 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: is to have a development deal with a studio, and 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: that allowed the guys to have a studio deal with 170 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: twentieth Century Fox and the first look deal with them, 171 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: which allows them to hire me and the other folks 172 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: that we worked with. So that was at the beginning. 173 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: That was the beginning talk about that cast. The cast 174 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: was incredible. Cameron Diaz, you know, Matt Dillon, Chris Elliott, 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: Steve Sweeney, Steve Sweeney. Of course our local legends in 176 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: Boston comics, Lenny Clark and Steve Sweeney, Markey Post, Keith, 177 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: David ben Stiller. Willie Garson said, you know Willie Garson, 178 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: sadly's recently passed as Markey Post has. Willie Garson was 179 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a big part of Sex and the City as well. 180 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Great guy. Sarah Silverman's in it before she took off. Wow. 181 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: And then Lynn Shay, She's been a jewel to work with. 182 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: She was she played Magda and she also played the 183 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: Landlady and Kingpin. Saw some lists incantly of the best 184 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: comedy movies and comedy moments of all time, maybe the 185 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: top one hundred or something, and of course the movie 186 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: is on that list. Right. It's unbelievable. I had never 187 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: experienced making a movie of that size. I'd made a 188 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: few independence locally in Boston before we had left, but 189 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: I knew that movie was had something special without even 190 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: knowing it. That was naive as a young man that 191 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: when we were in the we when we when we 192 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: do our our tests, you must you know, we'll test 193 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: it with a marketing you know, the studio as a 194 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: marketing company. You tested for the public. And you might 195 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: do that. Hopefully you don't do it too often, but 196 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: you typically do it once or twice or three times, 197 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: and they help rate the movie and help tell you. 198 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: And that's where the execs come in, pr folks, and 199 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: it gives you a little reflection of where some of 200 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: the holes lie in the films. And I was I 201 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: was in a row with guys my age, a little younger, 202 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: a little older at the time twenty seven eight, twenty seven, 203 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight, and I was in a line with all 204 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: the public, all these different kids like my ages. And 205 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: once the joke started, I couldn't even hear half the 206 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: movie kids will I was by myself. They don't know 207 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: who I am, and they're going across my chest high fiving. 208 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: You couldn't hear it. All of a sudden, you see 209 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: the execs. Everyone's head stopped popping up and starts looking 210 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: around the theater, and everyone, I think, really knew at 211 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: that point we have something specially. Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, 212 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: So that was the beginning of the ride, and that 213 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: was also it sounds as if and from what I 214 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: remember it, it opened up at number two and it 215 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: stayed there for like weeks on end at number two, 216 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: and then I think at one point went to number one. 217 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: It's the only number two movie at that time. I 218 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: don't know, you have to correct me if I'm wrong, 219 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: but to go from two to number one, that never happens. 220 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: Usually movies dropped sixty percent forty percent every week, you know, 221 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and that movie just kept word of mouth, the legs. 222 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: It just it just stayed at one spot and just 223 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: grabbed momentum, the water cooler, et cetera, right, and it 224 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: just it blew up. But that became part of your 225 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: education with each you were part of. And it sounds 226 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: as if then the Faarlies gave you had more confidence 227 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: in you, gave you more work to do. What was 228 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: the next you know? Yeah, I mean I was a 229 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: sponge right in Osmosis the early days when you first start, 230 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, I do a lot of coverage, which means 231 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: I basically do a book report if you would on 232 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: if they even call them in now on scripts, so 233 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: we read I mean, I get inundated with scripts to 234 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: vet do we like it, does it fit our mission? 235 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, and things like that. So I started, you know, 236 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: early on, they started having me do coverage. Now, the 237 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: beauty I tell a lot of kids today is if 238 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: you being the director's assistant or a producer's assistant or 239 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: a writer's assistant, depending on which path you want to take, 240 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: but early on if you might not have a choice. 241 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: But as a director's assistant, I tell everyone it's incredible 242 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: because you know, you do a lot of the work 243 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: right in the not go ahead work. But in addition 244 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: to that, you're there from day one of the ideation 245 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: of the of the script all the way to the 246 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: release of the film, and you touch every aspect to 247 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: that because you're working for the director. So you're talking 248 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: to editorial, you're talking to execs, agents, stars, talent, production designers, 249 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: costume designers, everybody you can think of, stunt coordinators and 250 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: they all come through you to get to the to 251 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: the director. It's yeah, it's a quick yeah, it's a 252 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: quick MBA. You know, you learn by fire and trial 253 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: and error. But that's the beauty of it. So you're 254 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: talking to everybody, because sometimes if you're an editorial, you 255 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: typically only deal with editorial. You know, if you're only 256 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: in the costume department, you're dealing with costume, you know, 257 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: and so we get to touch every aspect of the film, 258 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: and you know, being on the director's hip is huge, 259 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: not only on if you want to direct and learn 260 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: from that, but also being on the phone with them 261 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and talking to everyone. You're just you know, you're picking 262 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: up everything as you go, so we all know that 263 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: you do learn by mistakes. Ultimately, Yeah, what's the worst 264 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: mistake at that period that you made as part of 265 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: that problem? There are many now that you learned from 266 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I learned how to be Johnny on the spot at 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: that point. You know, I was available twenty four hours 268 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: a day, which I never knew what that meant, twenty 269 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: four to seven for multiple years, maybe before the proliferance 270 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: of cell phones cell phones. You know, when I was there, 271 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: it was pre Internet and pre sell right, the cell 272 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: had just come to being on that movie. That was 273 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: my first cell phone. It was in nineteen ninety eight. Yep. 274 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: It's probably a big one of those big Qualcom block phone. Yeah, 275 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't the big one. It was like 276 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: half that size. Yeah, very convenient. Yeah, and I'm sure 277 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: there's still you know, gamma rays bouncing through your system 278 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: as we speak. So I learned. I learned to be 279 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Johnny on the spot available twenty four to seven, which 280 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're not typically used to that when you 281 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: you think you put in a full eighteen hour day 282 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and then the calls still come. There's only six hours 283 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: to sleep left, and you're still getting calls. Not just 284 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: from them, but a lot of times everyone in the 285 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: in the company is calling you because they need you 286 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: to get to the director, you know, so some the 287 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: phone's never stopped. Now. In addition to that, you know, 288 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, I have two bosses, you know, who are brothers, right, 289 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, so you need to make sure you're constantly 290 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: debriefing and briefing both at the same time, right, and 291 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: make sure they understand what's going on because sometimes they're 292 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: separate from each other, and that that that's a balancing act, 293 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, which is great. And then just learning how 294 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: to you have to be very resourceful as an assistant. 295 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, suddenly you'll get a task, you know, out 296 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: of the blue, will be sitting here doing this interview, 297 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: and I would get a call that I have to 298 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: go to the airport and show the movie to Tina 299 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Turner and Zerwich. Now that's pretty cool, But if you 300 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: already have plans, you know, and you're in the middle 301 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: of something, that could be a little difficult to explain. 302 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: How great was it reporting for work every day and 303 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: getting to smile at Cameron Diaz every day? Yeah, not 304 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: a bad thing, because she's a great lady and she 305 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: deserves all the success she has. She could not have 306 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: been anything but just a lady, you know, just etiquette, 307 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, spirited, you know, one of the good ones. Yeah, 308 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: you know. And I love how graceful she is to 309 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: this day she is. And I just heard she's coming 310 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: out of retirement and she took you know, it's nice. 311 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: She took a ten year break to enjoy her life 312 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: and raise her family. And I saw somewhere in the 313 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: trades recently she might be coming back with Jamie Fox 314 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: to do a movie. It's a nice life. Yeah, Yeah, 315 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: she's a great Her family's great. I mean, she went 316 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: what's funny people don't remember too when when you talk 317 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: to them locally here she went to school with Snoop 318 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and with Willie McGinnis. So that's why you saw a 319 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: Snoop and her or Snoop in and around the Patriots 320 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: on their you know, ten year run. And she went 321 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to high school at Long Beach Hi with them. Wow. Yeah, 322 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Yeah. And now she's with those good Charlotte boys. 323 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, So what was the next movie 324 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: after after that? After something about Mary? We did me 325 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: myself and Irene and we shot actually we I don't 326 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: know it was before I think nineteen ninety nine was 327 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: we shot. We shot here actually at the Blue Hills 328 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: at the top of Big Blue Osmosis Jones, which is 329 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: a great kids movie that's great. The first half hours 330 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: live action and the rest of it goes to animation 331 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 1: once inside the body, and we shot we shot her 332 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: on this location. Who was in that everybody? Bill Murray, 333 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Chris Elliot again, Molly Shannon, Randy David Hyde, Pierce, oh wow, 334 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: Lawrence Fishburne, Chris Rock. Yeah. What was it like working 335 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: with the with Chris Elliot? Chris Ellie is a great guy, 336 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: great guy, you know, just just again down to earth, 337 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: really really uh fun to be around. Pretty simple. I 338 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: can just look at him and laugh. Yeah. I don't 339 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: even need him anything. He played Woogie, Yeah, I mean 340 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: just looking at him. Yeah. And I was a fan 341 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: of his, you know, late father and you know Bob 342 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: and Ray partnership and everything like that. But Chris is amazing. 343 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: He was great too, with especially at the end there, 344 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: you know when they all come in Brett Fire, Woogie 345 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: and and and Lee Evans great you know English actor 346 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: who played the pizza delivery boy. Fantastic. He's a big 347 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, English comic. That was That was That was 348 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: a great movie to be a part of. And tell 349 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: me about the experience of Dumb and Dumber. Dumb and 350 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: Dumber two. Uh, just you know, bringing back that, you know, 351 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: the original classic to life was just incredible. Yeah. You 352 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: know it was ironic because I was just having a 353 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: child at that point, so I had to leave quickly 354 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: from Atlanta, you know, halfway through the movie because my 355 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: daughter was being born priorities. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I 356 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: remember I got a call in the middle of the 357 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: night from my wife that her water broke, and I said, 358 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: are you sure? She said what? Because I was half asleep. 359 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: We had been doing nights and we just switched over. 360 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my god, frazzled. She said, 361 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: I said, are you shore? I said, false alarm. She said, no, no, no, 362 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: my dad's coming to get me. Get your ass home. 363 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: So and I couldn't get a flight because it was 364 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: three in the morning at that time. So I went 365 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: to set the next day and I said, guys, got 366 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: the good news of the bad news. They're like, you know, 367 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: the good alls stern, like, oh my god. And I said, well, 368 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: the bad news is I have to go. But the 369 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: good news is I'm having a baby. I said. Everyone's 370 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: cheering and fun and I flew back to Boston and 371 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: my daughter was born. Wow. But yeah, no, I mean 372 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: working with Jim, Jim Carrey and the gang again, just 373 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: just around Royalty and that point. Yeah, Comic Royalty and 374 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: the guys, you know, Yeah, it's it's just it's tough 375 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: to explain because it just when they all get together 376 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: and and you know, Jim, Jim's a pro, you know, 377 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: is one of the best, like you said, a legend, 378 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: and the guys, you know, they all came up together, 379 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool, right, and they got to bring 380 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: it back and come full circle and book ended together 381 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: twenty years later with Dumb and Dumber two. Amazing. Yeah, 382 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: So what do you think of a state of you know, 383 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: the film business these days? Obviously it's had its immense challenges. 384 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Is it ever going to come back as it used 385 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: to be? No, I don't think so, you know. I 386 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: mean that's a tough thing to do now. I mean 387 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: it's still in flux. You know, with the advent of Netflix, 388 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: it changed the world, you know, in the streaming services now. 389 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean we have all seen obviously because of the climate, 390 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: maybe COVID, but the climate, you know, with the dawn 391 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: with Netflix. Finally, you know, Disney and all the other 392 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: studios have come up, you know, to know that they 393 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: need to get in the streaming game, you know. And 394 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, I just read somewhere the other day that 395 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: they think lenear TV may go away the next ten 396 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: to fifteen years. You know, it's digital. Most kids under thirty, 397 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: most folks under thirty, they don't watch TV. They watch 398 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: everything on the laptop. But you must, like me, feel 399 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: it's impressive to see what Tom Cruise was able to 400 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: do with his current success. Oh yeah, right, I mean 401 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: that's really astounding. Oh it is. I mean, it's Tom 402 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: Cruise two, right, But you know, there's no guarantees of anybody. No, no, 403 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: But I haven't seen Top Gun, but I hear it. 404 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: I hear it from you know, older folks and younger 405 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: folks that it's fantastic. People talk about it. Yeah, it's 406 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: the first time since COVID, and that's the beauty now 407 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: that people are going back. I went and saw Minions 408 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: with my daughter in the theater on a Tuesday at noon. 409 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: It was packed. Because I am a bit of a 410 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: purist still in that I still love going to the movies, right, 411 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: it's a great night out, it's a great escape all that, 412 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: and I still love watching movies on the streamers on 413 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: the big screen. But there's still you know, there's it's different, 414 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, and you know it's given multiple I think 415 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: there's four hundred and fifty seven TV shows out there, 416 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: whether it's on you know, linear TV or the streamer 417 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: or whatnot, you know, which is great because it's provided 418 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: a lot more work for everyone. But yeah, the world 419 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: has changed, I mean, and luckily the studios have all 420 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, they were a little behind the eight ball. 421 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: Now they're catching up because Netflix is dominated forever. So 422 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: what's for general rule? Of the start to finish on 423 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: a major movie project. Is there a general time frame 424 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: rule of thumb? No, I mean, it's all specific to 425 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: the filmmakers. You know, we we a lot of times 426 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: we'll make a movie. We'll prep late summer, early fall 427 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: to shoot through the fall and finish for Christmas. And 428 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: then you know, a lot of folks, a lot of 429 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: movies don't start until after the new year. They prep 430 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: and then shooting the spring, or prep in the spring 431 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: and shooting the summer. It all depends on what you have, 432 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: what's going on in your world. Sometimes the studio dictates 433 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: when it's gonna get made depending on what they have 434 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: coming out on their slate, you know, pending the cost, 435 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: there's a whole there's all a number of different factors 436 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: that come in. But by the time you decide to 437 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: write the script and if it gets greenlit, you know, 438 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: it's about an eighteen month run, you know, you know, 439 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: from the beginning to the end, maybe even longer sometimes, 440 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes they take years to get off the ground, 441 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: as we know. You know, and you're bullish on more 442 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: movies coming to Massachusetts, aren't. Oh? Absolutely? Yeah? How does 443 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: that happen? It seems to be sickly. Is that true? Uh? 444 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cyclical. It is to a certain extent. 445 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: But now that you know, we've had the tax credit 446 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: here and now we've lifted the sunset clause. I mean, 447 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: I think there were thirty productions here this year and 448 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: there's fifteen more to come. And are you actively part 449 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: of any sort of group that does that, recruits that 450 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: or you know, it's just a lot of that's the 451 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: mass stature. No, a lot of that's the state, you know, 452 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: the mass State Film Office, right, you know, and then 453 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: people coming here, I mean Handmaid's Tales here, Julia find 454 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's called fineest kind. You know, a lot 455 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: of people think because I made movies, I'm involved with 456 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: every movie that comes here. I do. I think that 457 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you've just burst my bubble. Yeah, I didn't know that. 458 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: How could you possible? But a lot of people think that. 459 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: In that you know, you have your own camps, every 460 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: director brings their team. But Massachusetts is an incredible place 461 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: to make a movie. And now that the tax credits here, 462 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it's got everything. And you know, I think we have 463 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: some of the best we have the some of the 464 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: best crew base and some of the best content creators. 465 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean I'm a little biased obviously, but you know, 466 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: the dawn of American literature starts here in New England, 467 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: right But we have some of the best writers and 468 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: screenwriters in the world here. I mean, you know, Andres 469 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: Dubai wrote Hustle, Hint, sand and Fogg, William Monaghan screenplay, 470 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: just wrote Tenderbar and you know Departed. Paul Trembley just 471 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: became the new face of sci fi fantasy horror. You know, 472 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: his last book, Cabine at the End of the World, 473 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: is being made into a movie by m Night Shamalian 474 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: Chuck Hogan. There's just a plethora of talent here. In 475 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: addition to the locations you can get everything from. You know, 476 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: we look like New York, but we can also look 477 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: like Alabama. You know, we have the old and the new, contemporary, 478 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: present day past. I mean, Little Women shot here all 479 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the way to Free Guy, so we have you know, 480 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: we're on the ocean, we can get to the mountains, 481 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: the hills. We have a little bit of everything for everyone, 482 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: and we have a great and on top of that, 483 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: we have great people in the city of Boston in Massachusetts, 484 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: in a great place to base yourself out of Boston 485 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: while you're making a film. Yeah, the artists seem to 486 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: like to come here. Yeah, take these projects on. Yeah. 487 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: So I often wondered why Boston has been such a 488 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: hotbed of so much entertainment, so much comedy is an example. 489 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: And then you just think about it from the movie perspective. 490 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: Do you just think it's because of the great education 491 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: that's around, the great surroundings. Why do you think it? 492 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: Or is it just that everyone's tortured from sitting in 493 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: two hours of traffic every day? Yeah, probably a little 494 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: bit of all of it. Yeah. No, I mean obviously 495 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: we have you know, our academia is world renowned, right, 496 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: and our educational universities and colleges at barn Nunn, you know, 497 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: through throughout the world. Right. In addition to that, I 498 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: think the people of Massachusetts in Boston bring a certain 499 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: it's a yeah, a panache exactly, and palette that brings 500 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: an a collective, diverse group of people, like you know, 501 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: it's funny. I mean if you just think of all 502 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: the folks that are from Boston that are out in 503 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: LA that are hugely successful, I mean, other than maybe 504 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: New York or Chicago, I don't know even la A 505 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: good portion of those come from our area. And why 506 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: is that? Right? I mean, in all fasts and then 507 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: the comedy, I think because we come from a great 508 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: world of sarcasm, you know, in grit that lends itself 509 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: to sarcasm, in that blue collar kind of working class. 510 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: That's it vibe in in in in origin story, if 511 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: you would, lends itself to that comedy. And I don't 512 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: even grow up here, do you think, Yeah, does that 513 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: make sense? Yeah? It is. And it's a bit of 514 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: the I think sometimes the relationship between Boston and New 515 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: York and the competitiveness that obviously it existed in greater 516 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: degrees in the sports world, but there's always a little 517 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: wait of this back and forth. I think, Oh yeah, 518 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: I always liken us to a smaller New York, right, 519 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, we have our villages and our burrows and 520 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: you know this and that. But it's also like most 521 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: of the guys I gravitated towards when I moved to 522 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: Los Angeles from New York, we all come from the 523 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: same yoke. Yeah, you know, despite this, you know, if 524 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: you were the sibling rivalry of our sports teams and 525 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: this and that and the competitiveness. We're like minded, I think, 526 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: and like persons to a certain extent, you know. Yeah, 527 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: I think there's that sense of New York and Boston. 528 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: I think certainly Chicago has elements of it. In Philadelphia 529 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: does as well. The sense of camaraderie yeah, but also kinship, 530 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: but that you know, the ball breaking yeah, which is fun. Yeah, 531 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: And that's why all those places are some of my 532 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: favorite places. Yeah. And we need to we need to 533 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: get back to a little bit of that, you know, 534 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: because we need to laugh at each other and ourselves 535 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: and not take ourselves too seriously. Well, from what I understand, 536 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: comedy in general these days is hotter than ever, meaning 537 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: the clubs and everything like that, obviously, because people are 538 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: just they would starved for, you know, something to entertainment 539 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: to get out. Yeah. I mean really, So, when did 540 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: you first know you were a great storyteller? I don't 541 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: know if I'm fully complete storyteller, but it's always a 542 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: work in progress. But it's a work in progress. Great question, 543 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: or that you knew at a point in your life 544 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: that storytelling was going to be part of your career. 545 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: I think probably you know, four or five or six 546 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: years into into my career with the Fairly Brothers, I knew, like, oh, 547 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm starting to get it. I'm starting to understand it. 548 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: And I think I have, you know, the talent or 549 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: the know how and the knowledge on how to you know, 550 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: tell a great story. You know, a lot of that 551 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: came from my background. You know, back you said, the 552 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: back to the uh, the grit, a little bit of 553 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: the grit and grind in the in the uh, in 554 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: the drawing back and forth with each other, and as 555 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: you're growing up and with your siblings, et cetera. You 556 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: know that that lends itself to the storytelling too, you know. 557 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean most of the funniest guys I know are 558 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: the guys I grew up with, ye still to this day, 559 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, And and you won't see them for 560 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: X number of years, and then when you see him, 561 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you pick back right off, like riding the bike, right 562 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: yeahble And it's uh, it's a gift. It is a gift. 563 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: You think about it, yeah, and especially I always bring 564 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: this up, you know, And this goes back to the 565 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: Fairly Brothers. Comedies, I believe are one of the hardest 566 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: movies to make. You can make a straight drama you 567 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: get it right, Not that they they're all hard to make, 568 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: but that story is pretty pretty clear. But to make 569 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: to create a comedy for the masses, because everyone has 570 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: their own sense of humor, and make that work. That 571 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: is a gift, you know, And that's the gift that 572 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: the guys have that they've been giving to the world 573 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: for twenty years. On top of that, you know, could 574 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: we make something about Mary today? I don't know. Right 575 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: on the outer shell, it looks as if they're making 576 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: fun of somebody, but in the they're doing the complete opposite, 577 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: and they're they're they're applauding people in the folks, you know, 578 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: in that world, you know, I e. You know, with 579 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: Warren and something about Mary. You know, we make those 580 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: guys in the special needs kids, they hear us, you know, 581 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: even though there's a joke or too in between there. 582 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's so hard to know, I mean, what 583 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: would fly now? And and that does I don't know 584 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: as a you, as a content creator, does that frustrate 585 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: you that it's harder to know what you can get 586 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: away with? Yeah? Yeah, I think so, because now you 587 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: have to be understandably, you need to be a little 588 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: bit more sensitive I guess two things. But now you 589 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: have to to a certain extent sensor you'll work a 590 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: little bit. That's interesting. Yeah, you know, what was acceptable 591 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: even three years ago isn't acceptable now with certain types 592 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: of comic and humor in dialogue. You know, yep. But 593 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: again that's why we need to get back to laughing 594 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: at each other and with each other and at each other, 595 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: because that makes life go around. You want to saunter 596 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: a little here, and there's another big word, saunter. Let's 597 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: do a little take a saunter. See, we have editorial 598 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: control of the direction anytime, whether when it's ninety five degrees. 599 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: Can we get into the Turkey vulture pen? Maybe? I 600 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I've one problem is I neglected to bring 601 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: my speedout with me. So oh we should Okay, then 602 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: we should get in with the otter and to the 603 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Otter exhibit. But you take a swim in the pool 604 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: with the Otters, that would be a scene. It wouldn't 605 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: be boring. The police flatter here we come, right, Well, 606 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk about as we saunster. Well, first 607 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: of all, I mentioned this to you the other day. 608 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: I know you're a fan of you know, taking walks 609 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: with your some of your team members at Mudhouse or 610 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: some of your other folks talk about how walking or 611 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: in this case, as we're doing in the Blue Hills Sauntering, 612 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: talk about how that creatively is good. Well, you know, 613 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: we all go to hotels and coffee shops everything else 614 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: to meet and have meetings, and sometimes I think that's 615 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: a bit stale and stagnant and stasis and static. And 616 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm an outdoorsman. I love the wilderness, whether it's the 617 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: oceans or the mountains or I mean, look where we 618 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: are right now. We're in a little piece of heaven. 619 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Beautiful and and I think this lends itself to creativity 620 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: and people relax more. For me, it works, you know, 621 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: and the team members and even folks I don't really know. 622 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: Instead of going to again a hotel, lobby or a 623 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: restaurant and having an hour and a half meeting, I said, 624 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: you'd like to take a walk, And they said, what 625 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: do you mean? I said, well, I know some cool spots. 626 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that And as I think 627 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you too, I mean that was one 628 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: of the hallmarks of how Steve Jobs liked to get 629 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: things done. And you know, take meetings and that sort 630 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: of thing. So it also't let you loosen up and 631 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: get outside the office where you're not you know, you know, 632 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 1: you're always answering calls and questions and people are stopping by, 633 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: and it just brings a sense of peace not only 634 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: to you, but to the conversation and too, you know, 635 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: the folks you're walking with or the business you're talking about. Yeah, 636 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: And I also just think to the it's it's a 637 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's a moment to just sort of stop 638 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: and you know, reflect on, like you said, the beautiful 639 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: place that you know you're at and appreciate it and 640 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: not take it for granted. I know, certainly during these 641 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: last few years I rediscovered a lot of places that 642 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: I had not been to either or been to as much. 643 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: In my neck of the woods, I've never been here, 644 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: so this is a new place to discover as well. 645 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: So talk about where we're at here too, Why you 646 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: like it? Yeah, but I also applaud what you have done, 647 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: and I hope and think a lot of people out 648 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: there in the world have done where they did. Get 649 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: outside right and get out and see the world. You 650 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: have to a buddy of mine, Brett Dennin as a musician, 651 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: and he wrote his album last album during COVID called 652 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: get Out and See the World. Oh wow, it's one 653 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: of his songs. And he's coming locally half a dozen times. 654 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: They'll be playing it, you know. He headlines the river 655 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Fest of the New Report for the nine two point 656 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: five hand the Beach, et cetera. But he's a great artist. 657 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh incredible. Yeah. In the meantime, what you just said, 658 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: I love because not only people are reconnecting right with nature, 659 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: which is I think it's innate in us. Some people 660 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 1: might argue that, but it makes it just It also 661 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: makes you much more rich, you know, fulfilled and empowering yourself. 662 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean and boy, we live 663 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: in such a beautiful you know part of the country. Uh, 664 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, you just once again, I mean, boy, there's 665 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: just so many great things. You go, like, God, the 666 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 1: bluebirds are back, or you know, gotta feed that hummingbird 667 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: feeder because the humming birds are back, and the robins 668 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: nest in my in my door jam with three little 669 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: blue you know, eggs. It's amazing. It's amazing. So let's 670 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: talk about Mudhouse media. Yeah, tell. Mudhouse is a audio 671 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: a full nervis or audio productionpany Right, yeah, yeah, So 672 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on with some of the projects 673 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: within Mudhouse that you particularly love and where do you 674 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: want to take this company. Well, as we talk about Mudhouse, 675 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: we're walking by the Turkey Vulture exhibit and give me 676 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: some inspiration since they eat carry on. The next one 677 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: is the Bald Eagle. But Mudhouse we started about we 678 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: started during COVID, which was obviously insane for us seven 679 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: months of our existence. We're in lockdown and I think 680 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 1: the teacher was coming up. The vulture is going after 681 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: the rat that's on the trunk there. And we've built it, 682 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, with an incredibly small team, but incredible you know, 683 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: production team, and we're you know, we do. We have 684 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: one called Court with Patrick McEnroe. He's number one or 685 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: two or three in tennis depending on the day. We've 686 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: done a couple incredible one one you know that we're 687 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: proud of all of them. But also we did one 688 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: with Silverstein Properties. They're one of the largest developers in 689 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: New York if and out the country, and they're the 690 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: owners and developers of the World Trade Center campus and 691 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: they hired us to do an eleven priate documentary series 692 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: this time last year. We released the first episode on 693 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: July sixth, coming out of July fourth, all the way 694 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: up until nine to eleven, and they hired us to 695 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: do an eleven priate documentary series leading up to the 696 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven, what it took to 697 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: rebuild Lower Manhattan and the World Trade Center after twenty years. 698 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: They were unbelievable. We interviewed everybody from Michael excuse me, 699 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg to politicians to taste makers and what it 700 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: took to rebuild and what happened just prior to nine 701 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: to eleven. There's just unbelievable. And we were able to 702 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: do a deal with Serious XM, Stitch and Pandora for that, 703 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: and they've recently come back to hire us for another job. 704 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: That's great. In the meantime, we have multiple corporate slash 705 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: branded content jobs lined up and the mean and also 706 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: original and unscripted and scripted podcast series, so we'll be 707 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: doing some with some high profile authors, some high profile filmmakers. 708 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: We have multiple podcasts with actors, athletes and musicians, celebrity 709 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: interior designers, celebrity chefs, and we continue to build. You know, 710 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: we're lucky we're still here. You know, through COVID, you know, 711 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: its large corporations, small businesses continue to collapse. Coming out 712 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: of the other end of COVID, we remain steady and 713 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: in growth mode and looking forward to the future when 714 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: right now we're ready to go. The horses are all 715 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: watered and uh ready to go. It's exciting starting something 716 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: from the beginning like that, isn't it. There's a little 717 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: bit of both. Yeah, it's exciting and terrifying. Yeah, exactly, yeah, both, 718 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's what keeps you alive. Yeah, 719 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like a movie. Yeah. I always 720 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: tell people startups are just like a movie, and that 721 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: movies are startups. Whether you're an independent or you know, 722 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: a big tempole. They start from a very small idea 723 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: written to a script and then hopefully turns into and 724 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: blossoms into something beautiful and fruitful for everyone. But there's 725 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: dark days and there's living lays. There's dark days, uplifting days, 726 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: there's sick days. You know, there's days you don't want 727 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: to show up, you know. Then there's days all you 728 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: want to do is show up, right, you know. Yeah, 729 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: days it works seven days a week and then there's 730 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: days when you want a month off, you know, But 731 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: overall it's just uh yeah, it's been a joy to 732 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: work with the team we have and the investors we 733 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: have and just looking forward to the future. So do 734 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: you set canible goals about this project at Mudhouse for 735 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: I want to be at this particular place with it 736 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: in two years, or do you do you uh, kind 737 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: of let the landscape. Yeah, kind of, I mean one 738 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: of one of the care of itself. Yeah, I hope. 739 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: I hope to double in size in the next two years, 740 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, from a revenue standpoint, but also in a 741 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: staff standpoint, which means we're growing. You know, we're at 742 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: a point where we're growing and we're getting a lot 743 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: of work where we need to staff up and create 744 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: more content and more folks. More content folks are coming 745 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: to us for help in the podcast space because it's 746 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: still in its infancy. As we know, it's still the 747 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: wild wild West and people still trying to find them 748 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: out navigate those those waters and pathways. But you know, 749 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: I think we have that right goal in that north 750 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: star that we were going to stay on and at 751 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: its heart, it's all about content, which is where content is. 752 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: Your heart started with it, right? Yeah, content is king, 753 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: always will be. Oh man, Well, I wish you the 754 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: best on Mudhouse and I'm so glad that we got 755 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: to take a saunter. Yeah, thank you, buys anytime you 756 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 1: want to take a walk, man, I love taking walks. 757 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris. I appreciate it. It's awesome. Taking a 758 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or 759 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.