Speaker 1: Hey, groupies. This week on the group chat, we get real,
Speaker 1: because not every conversation can be super fun, especially when
Speaker 1: the Panthers are on a four game losing streaks. Let's
Speaker 1: get real. They just haven't been able to execute. And
Speaker 1: that's about And it's been miss blocks, it's been open
Speaker 1: receivers that haven't been located, it's been routes that have
Speaker 1: not maybe been run at the proper depth or finding
Speaker 1: the holes, and it's everybody plays a part in this.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. We talked about the good stuff too,
Speaker 1: including the best of our thanksgivings. Well brought us some
Speaker 1: deviled eggs, which is that was not on the original
Speaker 1: sign up sheets, so it's kind of a it's a
Speaker 1: different sort of deal. But you know they're good. That's
Speaker 1: something that you've kind of perfected. You've done You've done
Speaker 1: the I've I've done it. I've gotten better at it.
Speaker 1: I originally the first time I did it, I underboiled
Speaker 1: the eggs. So that was that wasn't good. Had to
Speaker 1: go get some more eggs. We have that and so
Speaker 1: much more, including an added bonus at the very very end,
Speaker 1: you've been added to the group chat with your friends
Speaker 1: Caroline can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian the group CHOT.
Speaker 1: I think as a collective group today we do we
Speaker 1: weigh more because of how much we ega Thanksgiving. If
Speaker 1: there was a scale that we were sitting on, we
Speaker 1: would definitely be how many more pounds have you? What
Speaker 1: do you think? I ate my heart out. I say
Speaker 1: maybe six two pounds for each of us. That's too much.
Speaker 1: Did we tell the groupies about the Department Thanksgiving that
Speaker 1: you organized? You should tell everyone that was awesome groupies.
Speaker 1: We did an inaugural Department Thanksgiving lunch and it was
Speaker 1: a roaring success and we all brought stuff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone signed up. And originally everyone thought that they had
Speaker 1: to cook something, and so it was a little slow
Speaker 1: of a sign up process. Because I there, I signed
Speaker 1: up immediately. I knew it. I knew what I was bringing,
Speaker 1: and you did too. Did you took me a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I got in there. Yeah, you got in there.
Speaker 1: Once I made it clear that you could also buy
Speaker 1: what you were bringing. It filled up pretty quickly. I
Speaker 1: was a green mean cast role. That's what I brought that.
Speaker 1: I also brought the turkey. Yeah I got that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you I mean you were low key m VP for
Speaker 1: bringing I mean low key, and I wanted someone to
Speaker 1: sign up to do the turkey, but that was a
Speaker 1: bit comment. Maybe next year. Actually, potato cast role with
Speaker 1: the marshmallows on to my face, Max pretty much brought dessert,
Speaker 1: is what Max? It is? I am weird about sweet
Speaker 1: potato cast role and even with the marshmallows sometimes, No,
Speaker 1: that was phenomenal. How long does it take it it's
Speaker 1: a it's a process. Yeah, well so I just was
Speaker 1: completely following my mom's directions on how to do this
Speaker 1: because she always makes that on Thanksgiving and her I mean,
Speaker 1: you can buy it canned, but her trick to making
Speaker 1: it even better is like you use actual sweet potatoes
Speaker 1: and those things were in the oven for like two
Speaker 1: hours and then like the skin literally just falls off
Speaker 1: and then you just kind of mash them up and boom.
Speaker 1: It's not not too hard after that. But that's why
Speaker 1: I like Green mean cast role because you don't have
Speaker 1: to be patient, just put it all together and you
Speaker 1: put it in there for about and the best part,
Speaker 1: we didn't really have to cook the Green meme cast role.
Speaker 1: You just put it all together and then our great
Speaker 1: crew here like America Stadium. They actually finished preparing things
Speaker 1: for us, so that was great. That was so easy.
Speaker 1: I'm not not the best cook, really, I just don't
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I think I have my staples that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm good at and I know I know how to
Speaker 1: do this and I will I would do, but trying
Speaker 1: new recipes, I'm not confident in it. I I tried
Speaker 1: to make green curry last night. Yeah, so that's like,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's not simple, not good. It wouldn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It just didn't have a lot of flavor. So I
Speaker 1: did you like get through it or did you just
Speaker 1: like talk? I had one helping and then I tossed.
Speaker 1: I tossed a lot of it, but I kept the
Speaker 1: chicken and I did it with chicken, so I just
Speaker 1: kind of got the chicken out and I said some
Speaker 1: of the curries. I was thinking maybe sitting having it
Speaker 1: sit overnight will be better. Yeah, but maybe no, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well. Will brought us some deviled eggs, which
Speaker 1: that was not on the original sign up sheets. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a it's a different sort of deal. But
Speaker 1: you know they're good. That's something that you've kind of
Speaker 1: perfected you've done, You've done the I've I've done it.
Speaker 1: I've gotten better at it. I originally the first time
Speaker 1: I did it, I underboiled the eggs, so that was
Speaker 1: that wasn't good. I had to go get some more eggs.
Speaker 1: But now I've I've gotten it down to a science. Now. Yeah, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: we do hope everyone out there had a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: It's such a fun way to kick off the holiday season.
Speaker 1: But now I'm glad everyone's on the same page that
Speaker 1: it's it's Christmas, Hanuka all the holidays. And I said
Speaker 1: hanaka because holiday season. Look at this, this lovely tree.
Speaker 1: There is a tree in here that is it's a
Speaker 1: Charlie Brown Christmas tree. It's a good way. One little ornament,
Speaker 1: there's one ornament and there's some blue felt around the
Speaker 1: bottom that makes me think it's snow or I yeah,
Speaker 1: just winter feel Yeah that was nice. I mean, and
Speaker 1: the studio usually feels pretty wintry. Yes, and it's so
Speaker 1: we're good. But yes, we do hope everyone had a
Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving. And now that everyone, I hope you have
Speaker 1: all of your Christmas and all those decorations. Did I
Speaker 1: have to ask did you kill it on Cyber Monday
Speaker 1: slash Black Friday. Black Friday killed it. Caroline was telling
Speaker 1: me all about this like strategy, that yeah, is he
Speaker 1: you and your mom whom this tradition And it really
Speaker 1: started with her mom and they would go back in
Speaker 1: the day when places did not open until Black Friday
Speaker 1: and we were young kids. They would I mean they
Speaker 1: had the full spreadsheet where they were going, what they
Speaker 1: were getting, the prices. Okay, you go in staying in line.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go get the items and come back,
Speaker 1: so you're not there for a long time. But now
Speaker 1: it's not as high tech because places open on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: But we my my father decided to join us this year,
Speaker 1: which I think he he will not do it, although
Speaker 1: he did end up getting some of the best deals
Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe he'll be enticed to come back.
Speaker 1: Is it is still as much of a physical thing
Speaker 1: as it used to be now with so much online shopping,
Speaker 1: do people still like run over each other? It is
Speaker 1: because there are things in store that you cannot get
Speaker 1: online and so they're not a lot though. That was
Speaker 1: my dad's big question when we were there an hour
Speaker 1: before the store opened. He was like, why why are
Speaker 1: we waiting here before and we talked about that. There
Speaker 1: was actually a family setting up a concession stand, which
Speaker 1: was so smart, Like, while we're spending money, they're making money.
Speaker 1: Good job, guys, How is that? How has that not
Speaker 1: become a thing like Walmart? Just like, all right, we've
Speaker 1: we've permitted it. You can drink in our parking lot.
Speaker 1: People out there in the parking lot with giant like Nordstrom, Macy's,
Speaker 1: Jersey's on. Just like getting ready for all right, next
Speaker 1: group chat. Were trademarking this the group chat. We now
Speaker 1: we have an adventure. This is what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: preparing everything. Should have a tailgate. Yeah. It was fun.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of great deals and then we
Speaker 1: were we were done. We we did so well on
Speaker 1: Black Friday. I didn't get anything on Cyber Monday. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't take part in Cyber Monday. I did. I
Speaker 1: did some damage on Cyber Monday. Yeah, I can't, can't deny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it my life. And I spent
Speaker 1: like getting gifts for people, you know, like trying to
Speaker 1: knock that out. That's what I see. I think that's
Speaker 1: what everyone does, right, I do. I do the best
Speaker 1: thing stuff myself Yeah, we used to go and get
Speaker 1: like our TVs game. I feel like TV is the
Speaker 1: big black Friends. There was one where I was so
Speaker 1: tempted because this TV that sells originally for they give
Speaker 1: them away. I know, it's weird. It's always a TV
Speaker 1: that and like the Instant Pot, it's always like a
Speaker 1: huge Friday deal. Lets please let us know the best
Speaker 1: deal you got on Black Friday, Cyber Monday, all of that.
Speaker 1: I love hearing it. I get so jealous because then
Speaker 1: you can turn around and resell them. That's what people
Speaker 1: were doing with those TVs. They were buying them up
Speaker 1: just to resell them because the margin was That's not
Speaker 1: the integrity of this game. Yeah, that's not what it's for,
Speaker 1: what it's about. But I'm proud of you for having
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur mind. It's like the Popeye is sandwiches. Oh
Speaker 1: we're selling those for like a hundred bucks. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is crazy. But we'll talk about football now. Now let's
Speaker 1: get transition. That's called. So it was a great thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: a great lead up to this game. The game itself
Speaker 1: started great, started great. I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be a blowout Panthers victory. I really did it felt
Speaker 1: it felt good. It just felt physically great. Those first
Speaker 1: two drives being on the sideline. There was not a
Speaker 1: swag on that sideline that you're up fourteen nothing after
Speaker 1: two series, there wasn't. There really wasn't, And and I
Speaker 1: didn't think much of it when it was happening because,
Speaker 1: like I said, physically, everything was happening so well that
Speaker 1: it was like, well, you don't, you don't need that.
Speaker 1: Everything's clicking. They're just very zoned in and everything. Everyone's
Speaker 1: focused on this. But then when things started to slip away,
Speaker 1: that's when I kind of thought back to you know
Speaker 1: what never really felt like we had it was it
Speaker 1: was a slow burn, and it was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's a big long run, but that's the only thing
Speaker 1: they've given up, just this one long run. And then
Speaker 1: all that we held into a field goal and then
Speaker 1: it's like all the it's just kind of like and
Speaker 1: then it just kept slipping away. But before we get
Speaker 1: too much into it, we are going to do big episode,
Speaker 1: one big segment here of Line of the Week. It's
Speaker 1: been such a success. Good job Max coming up with
Speaker 1: this that we credit are the man who introduced it.
Speaker 1: Every week Line of the week. That's a good one
Speaker 1: that that feels appropriate for this So we're doing, um
Speaker 1: a couple or a few soundbites from this week responding
Speaker 1: to the game, and we're going to start out first
Speaker 1: with Jerius right, who was talking about this slow burn
Speaker 1: that happened to this team. Man. You know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: shifts and you don't even know that that it's shifted,
Speaker 1: but uh, like you say, it's slowly, it's slowly shifted
Speaker 1: in you know, they got the field goals and we
Speaker 1: even had you know, field goal block to you know,
Speaker 1: keep points off the board, but just slowly went bad
Speaker 1: for us downhill. It's it's like it's like we had
Speaker 1: heard that quote before. We just said that. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's what you call stealing his thunder. Sorry Jers, but
Speaker 1: it is true. And what I take away from hearing
Speaker 1: him say that, and I was the one that was
Speaker 1: in that interview with him, he was dumbfounded isn't the
Speaker 1: correct word, because he they knew what happened. But I
Speaker 1: think reflecting on it, it was a bit of how
Speaker 1: did we just let that happen? Yeah, especially to go
Speaker 1: to go fourteen nothing on a Washington team that had
Speaker 1: two wins coming in Dwayne Haskins was making just his
Speaker 1: fourth ever start. That that like that was the recipe
Speaker 1: to win, and win decisively, to put Haskins in a
Speaker 1: situation down two scores where they've got to have to
Speaker 1: throw throw the ball and get back into it. But
Speaker 1: unfortunately that never happened because Washington was able to just
Speaker 1: turn around and hand it off and have a ton
Speaker 1: of success on the ground. And I think that's really
Speaker 1: where the like the slow burn eventually built into this
Speaker 1: inferno of disaster with the fact that they just couldn't
Speaker 1: contain the Washington ground game, and that that's amazing to me,
Speaker 1: even saying that because they had a fourteen nothing lead,
Speaker 1: like that shouldn't it shouldn't have happen in a game
Speaker 1: when it's fourteen nothing. And I think, like I point
Speaker 1: to one one moment in particular, I believe at this
Speaker 1: point it was fourteen three, Curtis Samuel is wide open
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field and the ball is
Speaker 1: just like a fingertip length too far. He catches at
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. The defender had fallen. It's three. At
Speaker 1: that point the game, the complexion of the game completely changes.
Speaker 1: At that point. Washington can't run the football. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have to be able to try to get some
Speaker 1: scores quickly. Instead, it was just clut kind of within
Speaker 1: reach enough to where Darius Guys and Adrian Peterson could
Speaker 1: keep shredding the defense. And and look, we've talked about
Speaker 1: it on this show all season, and the run defense
Speaker 1: has just been an issue and it it just hasn't changed.
Speaker 1: And Washington exposed it completely on Sunday to the yards
Speaker 1: and just over time, those rushing yards continue to pile
Speaker 1: up the points eventually did for Washington. And on the
Speaker 1: flip side, Caroline is off fence just completely when cold.
Speaker 1: I think it's the run game and then being able
Speaker 1: to have the production that they had. It is a
Speaker 1: little bit it makes you pause to think that this
Speaker 1: team was up fourteen nothing, and I think that's when
Speaker 1: a lot of teams would have said, we have to
Speaker 1: start throwing the ball so that this doesn't get out
Speaker 1: of hand. But it was just two scores and it
Speaker 1: was so early in the game that you're right, I
Speaker 1: think that past occurred to Samuel. I mean there's other
Speaker 1: things if even if they hadn't gotten the field goal,
Speaker 1: because the field goal still made it that lopsided. Where Okay, now,
Speaker 1: if we do get two, scores were up or not
Speaker 1: just tied with them. So I think even that that
Speaker 1: big run, the sixty yard run that they had on
Speaker 1: their second drive, I believe that was the first sign
Speaker 1: of trouble. Yes, I mean, it's fourteen nothing and then
Speaker 1: they hit that sixty yard run. I think that was
Speaker 1: the big one. But then after those first two drives,
Speaker 1: that's when the first down struggle started to happen for
Speaker 1: this Carolina Panthers team. And I think that is the
Speaker 1: slow burn that this team is talking about. It's not
Speaker 1: something it's not a big play, it's not you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, the sixty yard run was a big play,
Speaker 1: but they didn't score on it. It's not like that,
Speaker 1: you know, that was it. It did set them up
Speaker 1: for a field goal, but we stopped them from scoring
Speaker 1: a touchdown, So that was a I think when they
Speaker 1: get off the field the field goal after that run,
Speaker 1: you you take that as a winkright, that's good. They
Speaker 1: only got three, But when they have these first down struggles,
Speaker 1: you're not really going to notice it unless you're really
Speaker 1: paying attention. What Washington was able to then do was
Speaker 1: in these second long, third and long they're able to
Speaker 1: blitz and get after. Kyle was sacked six times in
Speaker 1: this game, seven times, but it never felt to me.
Speaker 1: It never felt like, oh boy, here here goes a
Speaker 1: big stack game. You know. It never felt like that.
Speaker 1: But because of the pressure that could get on him,
Speaker 1: he started to feel a little flustered. And I think
Speaker 1: the biggest difference from those first two drives to that
Speaker 1: very last play was was a confidence in Kyle Allen
Speaker 1: had slowly been chipped away because he was running. He
Speaker 1: had to run, He had to start getting out of trouble.
Speaker 1: As the game, when a pressure affects quarterbacks, and even
Speaker 1: when there's not pressure there, suddenly they you know, we
Speaker 1: saw a Jets quarterback or this season admit and a
Speaker 1: live mike that he was seeing ghosts. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that's that's a real thing. When when defensive coordinator is
Speaker 1: talking about trying to get after the passer, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: want to get sacks, but just being around him and
Speaker 1: getting him off his spot, disrupting him has a cumulative effect.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what we saw from Kyle throughout
Speaker 1: the course of this game was guy who wasn't really
Speaker 1: necessarily trusting the protection in front of him, and when
Speaker 1: that happens, things can break down. On the last play
Speaker 1: of the game, where he's got an uncovered jarious right,
Speaker 1: he kind of bails a little quicker than he should
Speaker 1: have and got off his read quicker because you're almost
Speaker 1: anticipating the pressure and and that's what defense has tried
Speaker 1: to do. I mean, that's that's a recipe for success.
Speaker 1: What's also a recipe for success defensively is taken away
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the game, Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Fourteen carries forty four yards. I mean they bottled him up.
Speaker 1: And then to your point, Caroline, when when on first
Speaker 1: down it's either penalty or negative play, and now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're in second and long, you've got
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. And again that's taking it out
Speaker 1: of the hands of Christian And unfortunately for Carolina, you'd
Speaker 1: think up fourteen nothing, it's going to be a big
Speaker 1: Christian day, and it was anything but. And you you
Speaker 1: got to give a lot of credit for Washington coming
Speaker 1: in here knowing even down two scores that they were
Speaker 1: going to stick to that game plan. I mean, Bill
Speaker 1: Callahan came in Essentially they put an extra offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: In almost the entire second half, it was just gonna
Speaker 1: We're just gonna continue to run it on this team
Speaker 1: and make them stop it, and then they never could. Well.
Speaker 1: Going back to your comment of even the offense having
Speaker 1: to trust the protection as far as Kyle having to protection,
Speaker 1: we heard that same sentiments on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. This is a quote from Mario Addison when
Speaker 1: asked about what this defense has to do to take
Speaker 1: that next step in stopping the run. What you gotta
Speaker 1: chose each other to do their job. You gotta know
Speaker 1: your job and do your job. Simple. It is simple,
Speaker 1: But man, it does not seem simple, does it. This
Speaker 1: quote was telling. I thought Mario is always very honest.
Speaker 1: He's always very genuine as far as how he feels
Speaker 1: the simple at the end of this is a frustrated
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, and he's not really a player that gets
Speaker 1: frustrated too much, especially in front of the media, but
Speaker 1: this was one He's simple. Yeah, and and it goes
Speaker 1: back to know your job, do your job, and trust
Speaker 1: each other. That just that, that to me says that's
Speaker 1: not happening right now. And I think it's very easy
Speaker 1: when you look at what Washington was able to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some there's some miscommunications, Um, are you doing your job?
Speaker 1: And that that comes with the fact that they haven't
Speaker 1: been able to do it consistently. Yeah. And I think
Speaker 1: that when it comes to the ground game, it's a
Speaker 1: big pride factor as well. And I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what you hear from Mario. There is at a
Speaker 1: certain point all these guys these better ends on defense.
Speaker 1: It's your pride takes a hit when a team essentially
Speaker 1: says we're going to run it until you can stop it. Um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, you know, Ron has been asked
Speaker 1: about the scheme about gap control and all those sorts
Speaker 1: of things. But I mean you can see it like
Speaker 1: like mistackles, I mean in you're gonna get the guy
Speaker 1: down or not. And I think for this defense, what's
Speaker 1: been really frustrating is allowing teams to kind of run
Speaker 1: it down their throats. I mean that's as a defense,
Speaker 1: that is a humbling feeling that's been felt too many times.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the other things that Mario
Speaker 1: points out and says, you know, look, we've got to
Speaker 1: trust each other, it sort of sounds like he's saying
Speaker 1: without saying it that they haven't been trusting each other.
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna play defense at a high level
Speaker 1: in this league, you have to be doing it as one.
Speaker 1: You know, it can't be eleven guys kind of if
Speaker 1: you're not in the same page, you know you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna get exposed. And I think that's something that this
Speaker 1: this unit has has struggled with the times. It's guys
Speaker 1: either and I go, We've said it before, trying to
Speaker 1: do too much overcompensating and when that happens, any little
Speaker 1: kind of you know, the armor has a little crack
Speaker 1: at it. It's Adrian Peterson, Darius guys, these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna make you pay. And I mean, and that's what
Speaker 1: we saw to the tune again of eight point three
Speaker 1: yards per attempt, I mean, and they were they were
Speaker 1: lining up to do it. I mean, they knew what
Speaker 1: their intentions. Yes, I mean when when they when they
Speaker 1: had that play of when Petersons touched down the second half,
Speaker 1: they brought everybody in, no wide receivers. It's it's what
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's nine people on the line and
Speaker 1: everyone's in the box. And all it took was sealing
Speaker 1: off two guys and there was no one back except
Speaker 1: for Bradberry. It was it was just like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna run right up the middle and we see where
Speaker 1: we're what you're doing, and we figured out a way
Speaker 1: to get through it, and they did well. I even
Speaker 1: think you go of I'm not trusting each other. We've
Speaker 1: said this a couple of weeks ago about Luke. Luke
Speaker 1: feels like Luke has to do extra and I think
Speaker 1: he's never said that. They've never come out and said this,
Speaker 1: but the way that he's playing and makes it feel
Speaker 1: like he can't just focus on his job because he
Speaker 1: feels like he needs to also make sure that okay, Well,
Speaker 1: something that happened in this game is our guy is
Speaker 1: not where he needs to be, so I need to
Speaker 1: be there. But then that means it. So it's this
Speaker 1: trickled on effect. And when it starts with your front
Speaker 1: seven of what Mario is saying, and he's maybe talking
Speaker 1: about the whole defense. He didn't point out people, he
Speaker 1: didn't point fingers. It's still this locker room that's staying together.
Speaker 1: But there is a little bit of, hey, we've got
Speaker 1: to start trusting each other. I think that trickles down
Speaker 1: to them your second and third line. When you're going
Speaker 1: eight yards per carry, that's hitting into your secondary. So
Speaker 1: that's where we saw, you know, Trey Boston and and
Speaker 1: Ross Cockerell coming in and having to make these tackles
Speaker 1: and and these are corners and safeties that are coming down.
Speaker 1: And the safeties make more sense. But your corners are
Speaker 1: not built to stop the run. But they're going to
Speaker 1: help in that, but they're not built to be the
Speaker 1: ones that are stopping you eight yards down. The second
Speaker 1: leading tackler on the team is Eric Reed. I mean,
Speaker 1: when was the last time that well, and honestly, in
Speaker 1: order to try to stop these issues to find in
Speaker 1: the run, they put him in as a linebackers, right.
Speaker 1: I mean he's playing so close the line scrimmage now
Speaker 1: that you know he's strong, strong inside the box, safe
Speaker 1: and I know, look, I think offense, the offensive performance
Speaker 1: plays into this a little bit as well. I Mean
Speaker 1: we talked about this being a game where the offensive
Speaker 1: even have to compliment one another, and the offense is struggling,
Speaker 1: you can almost get the sense that the defense feels
Speaker 1: like they have to do something to make a play
Speaker 1: to spark things, you know, And I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of where you can get in trouble sometimes, is instead
Speaker 1: of just kind of doing your one eleven, now there's
Speaker 1: like this extra kind of well, I gotta do something
Speaker 1: to make a play here, and that's just kind of
Speaker 1: human nature. But the Redskins kind of use that against them,
Speaker 1: you know, the the the over pursuit, and Ron mentioned
Speaker 1: they tried some run pressure to try to get some
Speaker 1: things going that was used against them for a big chunk.
Speaker 1: So it's just to me, it all goes hand in hand.
Speaker 1: And when the offense is unable to string drives together slowly,
Speaker 1: their lead is tipped away at and now it's suddenly deficit.
Speaker 1: I think defensively, that sort of changes the mindset as well.
Speaker 1: And now these guys, instead of just focusing on getting
Speaker 1: the doing their assignment, getting the guys on the ground,
Speaker 1: now it becomes so we've we've got to make a
Speaker 1: big splash play to start of get this crowd back
Speaker 1: into it, to get this team back into it, and
Speaker 1: that can, as we saw, it can lead to trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it is the snowball effect, and that's what we
Speaker 1: saw in this game in particular. But I think that's
Speaker 1: the bigger picture of this season is little by little,
Speaker 1: we've seen some things that they haven't been addressed or
Speaker 1: fixed or you know, whatever it is, and they've snowballed
Speaker 1: into this bigger problem. And now you're sitting where you
Speaker 1: are in this season. Uh, and the playoffs I don't
Speaker 1: know where they are, um, but they're not anywhere near
Speaker 1: as far as in reaches of what the Panthers can
Speaker 1: do to make sure that they get in other than
Speaker 1: they need to take care of these this last quarter
Speaker 1: of the season to even think about it. But they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to get some big help there. What you
Speaker 1: heard from Jerryus, we've heard from Mario. Now let's hear
Speaker 1: from the man who ultimately gave them their jobs and
Speaker 1: the rest of the team gives them their jobs. As
Speaker 1: Marty Hernie post game. But we have to learn how
Speaker 1: to win games. And um, we're young at some spots,
Speaker 1: but we've made way too Maine. That takes today to
Speaker 1: win this game. I think that, Um, when you're in
Speaker 1: the position we are, you can get up four team
Speaker 1: nothing and then one thing goes wrong and the thing
Speaker 1: goes wrong. I think it really is a matter of
Speaker 1: confidence at times as far as and in confidence comes
Speaker 1: from execution. Yeah, so pretty much. It's like we'd heard
Speaker 1: that one as well. It's the snowball effect, and he
Speaker 1: was saying that little by little these things add up.
Speaker 1: But I love the last little bit of that confidence
Speaker 1: comes from execution, and that's what this team is lacking. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I look at like, especially when he's talking about the
Speaker 1: mistakes too. I look at two moments. One in the
Speaker 1: late in the second quarter, Washington does a great job
Speaker 1: pinning Carolina down there on two yard line, right, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you want from a fuel position standpoint.
Speaker 1: Now you can kind of got a team backed up,
Speaker 1: and Carolina in that situation is just trying. You're trying
Speaker 1: not to make a mistake, and Kyle throw's the interception
Speaker 1: at d J. Moore sets up a score quickly for Washington.
Speaker 1: A similar situation happens in the second half. Washington down
Speaker 1: at their own one yard line and they bust a
Speaker 1: twenty one yard run on the first play, give themselves
Speaker 1: breathing room. And to me, it's like that that's that's
Speaker 1: two great examples of the mistakes Carolina made and the
Speaker 1: mistakes that Washington they couldn't force them into. Dwayne Hassins
Speaker 1: was given the ball at way with more frequency than
Speaker 1: anybody else in the league right now. He was getting
Speaker 1: sacks more frequently any quarterback in the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was a guy that you could force into mistakes.
Speaker 1: They couldn't. They couldn't force him into one. Unfortunately, Carolina's
Speaker 1: quarterback made a big one. I mean that interception there
Speaker 1: kind of a big turning point in the game, and
Speaker 1: that's It's a moment where I think when Malty's talking
Speaker 1: about learning how to win at that with that fuel
Speaker 1: position at that point in the game, you've got to
Speaker 1: avoid that. You just have to. And DJ kind of
Speaker 1: gets thrown off his route whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: The ball ends up in the hands of a Washington
Speaker 1: defender and you give a short field for for an
Speaker 1: offense that had really been struggling at that point. But
Speaker 1: it was all Washington needed to really get themselves going.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a perfect example of just the
Speaker 1: mistake made by one team and the mistakes that Washington
Speaker 1: didn't make on the other side. And that's why a
Speaker 1: guy who making his fourth career start, who completes just
Speaker 1: about his passes and throws for a hundred forty seven yards,
Speaker 1: walks out of here as the winning quarterback because it
Speaker 1: does it all starts with a run. Like it's incredible.
Speaker 1: How when when you when you have when you have
Speaker 1: to run the ball because you're trying to protect your quarterback,
Speaker 1: and then you can do it. It's incredible what happens,
Speaker 1: and and stopping the run and running it, you know,
Speaker 1: establishing the run so that Kyle doesn't have to throw
Speaker 1: on first down, on second down every time. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have the pressure of a third and twelve. You know it.
Speaker 1: And Haskins didn't have to. I mean you talk about
Speaker 1: like he didn't make him. He didn't have to throw
Speaker 1: the ball at all. He only they only had a
Speaker 1: hundred and eighteen net passing yards. I mean they didn't
Speaker 1: throw it at all. They didn't have to. It's easy
Speaker 1: to make mistakes, but you don't have to do something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that to the last play, that last
Speaker 1: series that we've seen four times this season. The execution
Speaker 1: or lack there of execution is a big, big deal.
Speaker 1: And yes, we can say it's a big deal because
Speaker 1: they don't win, but I think this team is sitting
Speaker 1: on the fence in a lot of categories, and with
Speaker 1: a young team, and yes they have veteran leaders, and
Speaker 1: then this, this young youth conversation is not an excuse
Speaker 1: of why things are happening. It's the reality of where
Speaker 1: they are. And when you're young, you just haven't experienced
Speaker 1: a lot of things. You haven't done things. You can't
Speaker 1: go into a place and say I've done this before
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You may have done it in college,
Speaker 1: but that's very different. They're sitting on the fence and
Speaker 1: this goal line, red zone, end of game, can win
Speaker 1: the game, and not getting it done is such a
Speaker 1: fence problem, such a fit. They're just sitting there, sitting
Speaker 1: on the fence and they're looking they can touch a victory,
Speaker 1: but they're not able to do it. And I thought
Speaker 1: that last play of the game that was a very
Speaker 1: uncomb just not a very confident team that they didn't
Speaker 1: have because they haven't done it. They knew what was there,
Speaker 1: they knew what was at stake, they knew that this
Speaker 1: was the tipping point. Three times this season this has happened. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: they've talked about it meetings. Absolutely, they've you know, felt like,
Speaker 1: all right, we have this fix. And when it was
Speaker 1: that last play, there was no juice on the sideline.
Speaker 1: This is after a touchdown on sidekick, and now you've
Speaker 1: marched your way down there to be able to to
Speaker 1: be with an arm's reach. You wonder. I mean, I
Speaker 1: kind of admit a thought of myself when DJ got
Speaker 1: stopped at the one, I was like, yeah, if he
Speaker 1: just gets in. But now you're in the situation where
Speaker 1: here we are, here we go again. Okay, it's it's
Speaker 1: first and goal at the one, and then they try
Speaker 1: to hurry it up and Christian get stopped for a loss.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as that happened, it was kind
Speaker 1: of like, all right, well, now we get into the second.
Speaker 1: They're playing tight. They know that a lot is on
Speaker 1: the line here and that is where this team and
Speaker 1: the youth shows. And it should be pointed out that
Speaker 1: that they're down by eight, so not only do they
Speaker 1: have to score touched on there, but then they have
Speaker 1: to get a two win conversion, and with this team's
Speaker 1: issues down there in that area, there's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: they make the two win conversions. And so I think
Speaker 1: that's that's something that needs to be pointed out. But still,
Speaker 1: of course your your point stands that for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: down in those big moments where the field is super
Speaker 1: tight down in that goal line area, that they just
Speaker 1: haven't been able to execute. And that's about And it's
Speaker 1: been miss blocks, it's been open receivers that haven't been located,
Speaker 1: it's been routes that have not maybe been run at
Speaker 1: the proper depth or finding the holes, and it's everybody
Speaker 1: plays a part in this. Of course, the quarterback is
Speaker 1: going to bear the brunt of it in a moment
Speaker 1: like that where he retreats and Jarius is standing there
Speaker 1: wide open. But whatever reason you want to say that,
Speaker 1: you just gotta find a way to punch it in.
Speaker 1: You have to. And I think even looking at those
Speaker 1: those few plays, what happened on first down, second and
Speaker 1: third down when you've got four cracks at this thing
Speaker 1: um and again on all all of those snaps, the
Speaker 1: execution wasn't there. And I think that's that's why as
Speaker 1: soon as as when DJ makes that catch, it was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: just get in here so you can just avoid this
Speaker 1: altogether and then give it a give it a shout
Speaker 1: at the two point try. You give Washington credit for
Speaker 1: getting him down when they did. That's that's why they
Speaker 1: say you gotta if you're a defender getting somebody down
Speaker 1: at the one yard line, live to see another down.
Speaker 1: And for Washington, they lived to see four more and
Speaker 1: they got off the field with the wind. And this
Speaker 1: past month we've seen them try everything. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like it's the same. I mean, they've they've tried
Speaker 1: sweet plays. They've tried Alex Arma jumping over the pile.
Speaker 1: They've tried I like what they tried to do with
Speaker 1: hurrying it up quick, let's try to catch him off
Speaker 1: guard and just get Christian in here. And of course
Speaker 1: that didn't go right. And they they've they've tried Christman,
Speaker 1: Christian of the middle. They've tried, you know, pick plays
Speaker 1: to get I mean, and they just you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's alignment missing the block, whether it's Christian going through
Speaker 1: the wrong hole, whether it's Kyle not throwing the ball
Speaker 1: where he needs to, I mean, it's everything. I think
Speaker 1: there's so many uncharacteristic things happening for this team that
Speaker 1: it comes down to confidence. It's it's they can we
Speaker 1: do it, not a we can do this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey dropping a ball is so un characteristic that
Speaker 1: he's thinking about more than just trying catch that ball.
Speaker 1: He's already thinking, I have to get this ball in,
Speaker 1: run up field and get all you know, in that moment.
Speaker 1: I have to do that because I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can in other places. Like that's how everyone And
Speaker 1: it's not that he is, you know, maybe thinking that
Speaker 1: if that is going through his mind, it's not because
Speaker 1: it's you know, he's bashing his teammates that they can't
Speaker 1: do it. There's nothing like that. It's just I have
Speaker 1: to do this for my team. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the mindset that everyone has right now. And when you're
Speaker 1: playing with that monkey on your back of I have
Speaker 1: to do this or we will not do it. I
Speaker 1: think that's the trust that Mario is talking about. I
Speaker 1: have to do this because no one else will, or
Speaker 1: we can't do it. And and that's the monkey on
Speaker 1: the back that I think this team has. And and
Speaker 1: unfortunately it's getting down to the end of the season
Speaker 1: where they're running out of time to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And and now, I mean, we we heard this week
Speaker 1: that it's you know, that's when you start throwing the
Speaker 1: youth in there even more. Yet, you know, when do
Speaker 1: you when you start putting even more guys that are
Speaker 1: young out there to get them experience so that you're
Speaker 1: not in this same boat come the start of next season.
Speaker 1: That's where the Panthers are. You hate that you're there
Speaker 1: in December because there is still a lot of football
Speaker 1: left to be played. But that's the reality of this team.
Speaker 1: I think Marty kind of put it best. If the
Speaker 1: confidence comes from execution, and we're just not seeing that
Speaker 1: execution for this team, which hurts. It just hurts guys.
Speaker 1: We almost came on here and did another group therapy session,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, to be foreign too, and and then
Speaker 1: to be here, yeah, I mean, and this is for
Speaker 1: a team that's kind of gone through this now for
Speaker 1: two years, where off to a good start and just
Speaker 1: sort of see it kind of deteriorate. Um. It's there's
Speaker 1: it's what what what? What more could be said? There's
Speaker 1: really not more to say, And as I think it,
Speaker 1: Marty put put it best, this team's gotta learn how
Speaker 1: to win, UM And there's no excuse for youth at
Speaker 1: this point anymore. That's what Round mentioned to the media Monday,
Speaker 1: is like, at this point the process is over. We're
Speaker 1: in this the final phase of the season. There really
Speaker 1: aren't rookies anymore. Everybody's been here long enough. It's about producing.
Speaker 1: This is a performance based business. Uh. And when you're
Speaker 1: in a fight for playoff liitioning like this team was in. Look,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a two in Washington team at home,
Speaker 1: you have to And when you don't get it done,
Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be a lot of questions asked, and
Speaker 1: rightfully so well. Sometimes as a family, we just don't
Speaker 1: have to have all great wonderful conversations. Sometimes you just
Speaker 1: need to know what's going on and hit the reality.
Speaker 1: This is where we are. Look at us. Will is
Speaker 1: giving me a like a look like what is going on? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: I mean when you sometimes it's just not much left
Speaker 1: to say. And I think I think there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of that kind of around. You know, there's just
Speaker 1: there's not much left to say. I mean, we're we're
Speaker 1: we're all. We've all seen it, we've all looked at it.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of it's a lot of recurring issues. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's not like it's new stuff
Speaker 1: every week, right, I mean, we've been talking about a
Speaker 1: lot of this for a few weeks now. But if
Speaker 1: we look at what they have ahead, four games left
Speaker 1: still to division games. I mean we got the Caroline
Speaker 1: Can revenge game coming up? Is that what it is? Revenge?
Speaker 1: Am I looking for revenge? That's just like what the
Speaker 1: media has called it all the time. What would you
Speaker 1: prefer to be called? I don't know. I'll come up
Speaker 1: with it's not a revenge game. It would it would
Speaker 1: definitely be revenge if they like cut me and I,
Speaker 1: you know, got picked up. I think that's why it's funny.
Speaker 1: I think that's why it's funny. It's like like when
Speaker 1: I said, like it was like the Greg Man vote
Speaker 1: and revenge game against the Packers, it was like, no
Speaker 1: one's talking about all right, we'll just tea it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the revenge game is coming up December. We're gonna look,
Speaker 1: we're going week by week here, guys, But we don't
Speaker 1: actually we don't have to do that. The team can
Speaker 1: do that. The team will look week by week. We
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. December market the big game's
Speaker 1: been circled down our calendar all year. It's a big game.
Speaker 1: It really has been. Because I knew that I was
Speaker 1: taking this job before the schedules came out, and so
Speaker 1: I'm working for the Colts at the time, and we're
Speaker 1: getting ready for the big schedule release, you know how
Speaker 1: that is in our world, the biggest moment of the
Speaker 1: year for content creators. And I didn't really know the
Speaker 1: schedule for the Colts. I knew the schedule for the
Speaker 1: Pays because when when that one dropped, was looking at
Speaker 1: it and um, and then you know, I thankfully we
Speaker 1: didn't do one where I had to go up and
Speaker 1: talk about the schedule about the cults. We did it
Speaker 1: differently than we had in years past, So I didn't
Speaker 1: really look at the cults schedule, but I did look
Speaker 1: at the Panthers. So yeah, you're right, this one has
Speaker 1: been circled since April's This is what I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1: We still have a couple of weeks. Atlanta. First, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of families. It would be great to
Speaker 1: knock off the Falcons, right, that's if you're not going
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, ruin the playoffs for other teams.
Speaker 1: I'm that person. I mean, not that Atlanta, not that
Speaker 1: Atlanta's in that, but you have some I mean with
Speaker 1: the Saints, the cultures, the kind of made a similar
Speaker 1: position as far as playoffs are concerned as the Panthers.
Speaker 1: But the Seahawks, I mean, you've got some games coming
Speaker 1: up where just go ruin it. You can ruin New
Speaker 1: Orleans home field advantage, and why not be that team? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's and that's an attitude. They just get that attitude
Speaker 1: saying like we have not like I think that's what
Speaker 1: Washington had. They're they're not playing for anything that's one
Speaker 1: hates them. They can come in and just play. That's
Speaker 1: why you I mean, like you saw Miami beat Philly.
Speaker 1: I think you see that at this time of year
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of teams like that who
Speaker 1: have you're either the playing for an interim coach or
Speaker 1: the pressure is off. You know, you're not playing for
Speaker 1: anything other than really pride. At this point, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a freedom that comes with that ability to play loose,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you see some results come come
Speaker 1: from that. I had a coach say a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago in an interview that when you have internal expectations,
Speaker 1: that's what you should pay attention to. But when you
Speaker 1: have outside expectations, that's when you know you're doing something
Speaker 1: either very right or very wrong. If you're a middle
Speaker 1: of the road team, people have no expectation for you,
Speaker 1: just whatever. But if you have a low expectation or
Speaker 1: a very high expectation from the outside, it means you're
Speaker 1: do ink something and and so I've always thought about
Speaker 1: that when you get to this time of the year,
Speaker 1: or even I went to the climpse in Carolina game.
Speaker 1: I'm a Carolina fan. My expectations were set. I was
Speaker 1: not sad leaving Columbia just because they got beat by
Speaker 1: the Tigers. That was my expectation. I'm I'm a I
Speaker 1: get it, and I appreciate all of you out there
Speaker 1: that did not rub it in my face. I think
Speaker 1: you've got the message that I didn't really care. But
Speaker 1: I think that's what we're getting to in this part
Speaker 1: of the season, not just for the Carolina Panthers, for
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. Set your expectations, and they're going
Speaker 1: to set their expectations. Their expectation is always played at
Speaker 1: the best. You know, all the cliches that we hear
Speaker 1: that's actually real. But the outside expectation, I think that's
Speaker 1: when this time of the year, and that's what Washington
Speaker 1: was doing they know the outside expectation is that they're
Speaker 1: not really going to do it. The Dolphins know it.
Speaker 1: They go beat the Eagles, And I think all of
Speaker 1: these things, these on the fence teams or where you
Speaker 1: don't really know going into the game, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the Carolina Panthers right now. But they're those teams dangerous.
Speaker 1: They're just I mean, and you might see some trick plays.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's why not uh And I don't know,
Speaker 1: Callahan came in some boltimore to you. They hadn't one
Speaker 1: here since getting the guys all riled up about that.
Speaker 1: It's like, look that that team came out in here
Speaker 1: on a mission. And if if you don't play well,
Speaker 1: I don't care what the record of the team is
Speaker 1: in this league, you're you're gonna get beat. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: for the Panthers, that's that's that's what happens Sunday. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a lot to digest. There's my last things,
Speaker 1: giving jokes, there's a lot to digest. But I still
Speaker 1: want to know what your best Black Friday or Cyber
Speaker 1: Monday deal was out there, So you please let us
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Speaker 1: please send those to us. We're heading to Atlanta, first
Speaker 1: time going. This is my first time in the new stadium. Oh,
Speaker 1: my first time. So I'm kind of excited about it.
Speaker 1: Mercedes Benz will throw their name on a stadium, that's
Speaker 1: for sure, so and specifically in the NFC South. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see my second Mercedes bens Dome didn't
Speaker 1: come and this one I'm trying to go one and
Speaker 1: one at the Mercedes bins because we you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I just saw that one the super Dome, right, always
Speaker 1: always trying, always try and pay the bills. So on
Speaker 1: the radio, I was like, welcome back to whether SADI
Speaker 1: has been Superdome? Although I kept saying New Orleans? Is
Speaker 1: that of New Orleans? I kept saying New Orleans and
Speaker 1: I can't, yeah why, I'm like, welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Mercedes been super bowed in New Orleans? What New Orleans?
Speaker 1: I get it. For those that were wanting to go,
Speaker 1: a mat might have something. Tell us how to say it,
Speaker 1: go Tigers go. I'm not getting to say it all right, guys,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. We'll see you guys next week.
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