WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 22: Slow Burn 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.400 Hey, groupies. This week on the group chat, we get real, 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.840 because not every conversation can be super fun, especially when 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.160 the Panthers are on a four game losing streaks. Let's 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.560 get real. They just haven't been able to execute. And 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.200 that's about And it's been miss blocks, it's been open 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:19.720 receivers that haven't been located, it's been routes that have 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.160 not maybe been run at the proper depth or finding 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.480 the holes, and it's everybody plays a part in this. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.360 But don't worry. We talked about the good stuff too, 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.479 including the best of our thanksgivings. Well brought us some 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:36.479 deviled eggs, which is that was not on the original 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.400 sign up sheets, so it's kind of a it's a 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.080 different sort of deal. But you know they're good. That's 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.320 something that you've kind of perfected. You've done You've done 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.120 the I've I've done it. I've gotten better at it. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.320 I originally the first time I did it, I underboiled 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.280 the eggs. So that was that wasn't good. Had to 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.560 go get some more eggs. We have that and so 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.760 much more, including an added bonus at the very very end, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.760 you've been added to the group chat with your friends 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:18.240 Caroline can, Max Sensen, and Will Brian the group CHOT. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.200 I think as a collective group today we do we 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.360 weigh more because of how much we ega Thanksgiving. If 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.040 there was a scale that we were sitting on, we 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.039 would definitely be how many more pounds have you? What 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.640 do you think? I ate my heart out. I say 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.600 maybe six two pounds for each of us. That's too much. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.520 Did we tell the groupies about the Department Thanksgiving that 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.400 you organized? You should tell everyone that was awesome groupies. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:48.320 We did an inaugural Department Thanksgiving lunch and it was 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:51.280 a roaring success and we all brought stuff. So yeah, 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.080 everyone signed up. And originally everyone thought that they had 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.440 to cook something, and so it was a little slow 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.120 of a sign up process. Because I there, I signed 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.600 up immediately. I knew it. I knew what I was bringing, 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.880 and you did too. Did you took me a little bit, 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.560 but I got in there. Yeah, you got in there. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.440 Once I made it clear that you could also buy 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:14.840 what you were bringing. It filled up pretty quickly. I 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.639 was a green mean cast role. That's what I brought that. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.480 I also brought the turkey. Yeah I got that one. Yeah, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.040 you I mean you were low key m VP for 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.600 bringing I mean low key, and I wanted someone to 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.000 sign up to do the turkey, but that was a 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:34.120 bit comment. Maybe next year. Actually, potato cast role with 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.080 the marshmallows on to my face, Max pretty much brought dessert, 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.280 is what Max? It is? I am weird about sweet 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.000 potato cast role and even with the marshmallows sometimes, No, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.639 that was phenomenal. How long does it take it it's 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.440 a it's a process. Yeah, well so I just was 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.920 completely following my mom's directions on how to do this 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.040 because she always makes that on Thanksgiving and her I mean, 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.480 you can buy it canned, but her trick to making 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.040 it even better is like you use actual sweet potatoes 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.440 and those things were in the oven for like two 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.840 hours and then like the skin literally just falls off 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.120 and then you just kind of mash them up and boom. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.400 It's not not too hard after that. But that's why 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.120 I like Green mean cast role because you don't have 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.280 to be patient, just put it all together and you 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.000 put it in there for about and the best part, 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.919 we didn't really have to cook the Green meme cast role. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.440 You just put it all together and then our great 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.760 crew here like America Stadium. They actually finished preparing things 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.320 for us, so that was great. That was so easy. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:35.680 I'm not not the best cook, really, I just don't 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.480 enjoy it. I think I have my staples that I'm 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.520 I'm good at and I know I know how to 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.800 do this and I will I would do, but trying 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.080 new recipes, I'm not confident in it. I I tried 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.400 to make green curry last night. Yeah, so that's like, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:57.440 that's yeah, that's not simple, not good. It wouldn't. It wasn't. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.480 It just didn't have a lot of flavor. So I 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.720 did you like get through it or did you just 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:06.800 like talk? I had one helping and then I tossed. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.120 I tossed a lot of it, but I kept the 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:10.800 chicken and I did it with chicken, so I just 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.280 kind of got the chicken out and I said some 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.520 of the curries. I was thinking maybe sitting having it 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:19.320 sit overnight will be better. Yeah, but maybe no, I 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.560 don't know. Well. Will brought us some deviled eggs, which 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.080 that was not on the original sign up sheets. It's 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.360 kind of a it's a different sort of deal. But 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.359 you know they're good. That's something that you've kind of 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.320 perfected you've done, You've done the I've I've done it. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.000 I've gotten better at it. I originally the first time 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.360 I did it, I underboiled the eggs, so that was 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.640 that wasn't good. I had to go get some more eggs. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:49.120 But now I've I've gotten it down to a science. Now. Yeah, yeah, Well, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.320 we do hope everyone out there had a great Thanksgiving. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.839 It's such a fun way to kick off the holiday season. 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.120 But now I'm glad everyone's on the same page that 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.400 it's it's Christmas, Hanuka all the holidays. And I said 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:07.200 hanaka because holiday season. Look at this, this lovely tree. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.200 There is a tree in here that is it's a 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:15.279 Charlie Brown Christmas tree. It's a good way. One little ornament, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.240 there's one ornament and there's some blue felt around the 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.520 bottom that makes me think it's snow or I yeah, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.000 just winter feel Yeah that was nice. I mean, and 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.080 the studio usually feels pretty wintry. Yes, and it's so 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.719 we're good. But yes, we do hope everyone had a 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.280 great Thanksgiving. And now that everyone, I hope you have 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:40.280 all of your Christmas and all those decorations. Did I 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.480 have to ask did you kill it on Cyber Monday 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.720 slash Black Friday. Black Friday killed it. Caroline was telling 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.919 me all about this like strategy, that yeah, is he 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.800 you and your mom whom this tradition And it really 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.520 started with her mom and they would go back in 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:59.600 the day when places did not open until Black Friday 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.040 and we were young kids. They would I mean they 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.840 had the full spreadsheet where they were going, what they 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.520 were getting, the prices. Okay, you go in staying in line. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.120 I'm going to go get the items and come back, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.360 so you're not there for a long time. But now 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.960 it's not as high tech because places open on Thanksgiving. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.960 But we my my father decided to join us this year, 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.520 which I think he he will not do it, although 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.680 he did end up getting some of the best deals 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.080 and so maybe maybe he'll be enticed to come back. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.920 Is it is still as much of a physical thing 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.400 as it used to be now with so much online shopping, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.960 do people still like run over each other? It is 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.240 because there are things in store that you cannot get 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.520 online and so they're not a lot though. That was 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.920 my dad's big question when we were there an hour 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.480 before the store opened. He was like, why why are 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:58.480 we waiting here before and we talked about that. There 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.800 was actually a family setting up a concession stand, which 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.159 was so smart, Like, while we're spending money, they're making money. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:05.960 Good job, guys, How is that? How has that not 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.600 become a thing like Walmart? Just like, all right, we've 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.160 we've permitted it. You can drink in our parking lot. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:14.480 People out there in the parking lot with giant like Nordstrom, Macy's, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.520 Jersey's on. Just like getting ready for all right, next 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.000 group chat. Were trademarking this the group chat. We now 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.720 we have an adventure. This is what we're doing. We're 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.680 preparing everything. Should have a tailgate. Yeah. It was fun. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.120 We got a lot of great deals and then we 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.480 were we were done. We we did so well on 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.720 Black Friday. I didn't get anything on Cyber Monday. No, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:41.520 you didn't take part in Cyber Monday. I did. I 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.760 did some damage on Cyber Monday. Yeah, I can't, can't deny. Yeah, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.280 but a lot of it my life. And I spent 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.400 like getting gifts for people, you know, like trying to 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.680 knock that out. That's what I see. I think that's 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.080 what everyone does, right, I do. I do the best 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.679 thing stuff myself Yeah, we used to go and get 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.600 like our TVs game. I feel like TV is the 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.120 big black Friends. There was one where I was so 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:11.480 tempted because this TV that sells originally for they give 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.680 them away. I know, it's weird. It's always a TV 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.360 that and like the Instant Pot, it's always like a 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:21.280 huge Friday deal. Lets please let us know the best 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.040 deal you got on Black Friday, Cyber Monday, all of that. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.680 I love hearing it. I get so jealous because then 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.560 you can turn around and resell them. That's what people 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.160 were doing with those TVs. They were buying them up 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.080 just to resell them because the margin was That's not 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.520 the integrity of this game. Yeah, that's not what it's for, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.520 what it's about. But I'm proud of you for having 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:45.720 an entrepreneur mind. It's like the Popeye is sandwiches. Oh 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.840 we're selling those for like a hundred bucks. Yeah, it 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.080 is crazy. But we'll talk about football now. Now let's 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:58.640 get transition. That's called. So it was a great thanksgiving, 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.319 a great lead up to this game. The game itself 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.079 started great, started great. I thought it was going to 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.800 be a blowout Panthers victory. I really did it felt 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:14.600 it felt good. It just felt physically great. Those first 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.280 two drives being on the sideline. There was not a 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.080 swag on that sideline that you're up fourteen nothing after 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.080 two series, there wasn't. There really wasn't, And and I 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.120 didn't think much of it when it was happening because, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.960 like I said, physically, everything was happening so well that 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.800 it was like, well, you don't, you don't need that. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.400 Everything's clicking. They're just very zoned in and everything. Everyone's 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.360 focused on this. But then when things started to slip away, 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.280 that's when I kind of thought back to you know 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.680 what never really felt like we had it was it 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.720 was a slow burn, and it was kind of like, oh, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.040 here's a big long run, but that's the only thing 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.040 they've given up, just this one long run. And then 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.880 all that we held into a field goal and then 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.400 it's like all the it's just kind of like and 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.000 then it just kept slipping away. But before we get 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.079 too much into it, we are going to do big episode, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.560 one big segment here of Line of the Week. It's 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.040 been such a success. Good job Max coming up with 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.679 this that we credit are the man who introduced it. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:16.719 Every week Line of the week. That's a good one 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.959 that that feels appropriate for this So we're doing, um 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.679 a couple or a few soundbites from this week responding 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.240 to the game, and we're going to start out first 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.120 with Jerius right, who was talking about this slow burn 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:33.319 that happened to this team. Man. You know, sometimes it 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.559 shifts and you don't even know that that it's shifted, 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.680 but uh, like you say, it's slowly, it's slowly shifted 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.080 in you know, they got the field goals and we 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.480 even had you know, field goal block to you know, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:48.920 keep points off the board, but just slowly went bad 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:54.000 for us downhill. It's it's like it's like we had 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.400 heard that quote before. We just said that. Yeah, that 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.920 that's what you call stealing his thunder. Sorry Jers, but 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.840 it is true. And what I take away from hearing 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.920 him say that, and I was the one that was 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:11.440 in that interview with him, he was dumbfounded isn't the 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.680 correct word, because he they knew what happened. But I 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.520 think reflecting on it, it was a bit of how 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.120 did we just let that happen? Yeah, especially to go 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.600 to go fourteen nothing on a Washington team that had 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.000 two wins coming in Dwayne Haskins was making just his 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.319 fourth ever start. That that like that was the recipe 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.840 to win, and win decisively, to put Haskins in a 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.319 situation down two scores where they've got to have to 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.640 throw throw the ball and get back into it. But 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.480 unfortunately that never happened because Washington was able to just 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.680 turn around and hand it off and have a ton 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.079 of success on the ground. And I think that's really 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.680 where the like the slow burn eventually built into this 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.600 inferno of disaster with the fact that they just couldn't 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.600 contain the Washington ground game, and that that's amazing to me, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:05.240 even saying that because they had a fourteen nothing lead, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.720 like that shouldn't it shouldn't have happen in a game 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.360 when it's fourteen nothing. And I think, like I point 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.880 to one one moment in particular, I believe at this 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.560 point it was fourteen three, Curtis Samuel is wide open 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.400 down the middle of the field and the ball is 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.640 just like a fingertip length too far. He catches at 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:25.280 it's a touchdown. The defender had fallen. It's three. At 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.040 that point the game, the complexion of the game completely changes. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.040 At that point. Washington can't run the football. I mean, 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.440 they have to be able to try to get some 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.600 scores quickly. Instead, it was just clut kind of within 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.560 reach enough to where Darius Guys and Adrian Peterson could 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.280 keep shredding the defense. And and look, we've talked about 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.720 it on this show all season, and the run defense 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.280 has just been an issue and it it just hasn't changed. 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:52.920 And Washington exposed it completely on Sunday to the yards 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.960 and just over time, those rushing yards continue to pile 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.800 up the points eventually did for Washington. And on the 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.520 flip side, Caroline is off fence just completely when cold. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.360 I think it's the run game and then being able 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.760 to have the production that they had. It is a 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.000 little bit it makes you pause to think that this 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:13.960 team was up fourteen nothing, and I think that's when 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.440 a lot of teams would have said, we have to 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.480 start throwing the ball so that this doesn't get out 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.520 of hand. But it was just two scores and it 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.240 was so early in the game that you're right, I 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.880 think that past occurred to Samuel. I mean there's other 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.080 things if even if they hadn't gotten the field goal, 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.480 because the field goal still made it that lopsided. Where Okay, now, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.640 if we do get two, scores were up or not 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.120 just tied with them. So I think even that that 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.880 big run, the sixty yard run that they had on 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.600 their second drive, I believe that was the first sign 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.720 of trouble. Yes, I mean, it's fourteen nothing and then 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.320 they hit that sixty yard run. I think that was 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.120 the big one. But then after those first two drives, 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.240 that's when the first down struggle started to happen for 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.480 this Carolina Panthers team. And I think that is the 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.240 slow burn that this team is talking about. It's not 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.080 something it's not a big play, it's not you know. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.800 I mean, the sixty yard run was a big play, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.480 but they didn't score on it. It's not like that, 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.240 you know, that was it. It did set them up 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.679 for a field goal, but we stopped them from scoring 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.360 a touchdown, So that was a I think when they 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.640 get off the field the field goal after that run, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.200 you you take that as a winkright, that's good. They 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.600 only got three, But when they have these first down struggles, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.480 you're not really going to notice it unless you're really 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.160 paying attention. What Washington was able to then do was 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.320 in these second long, third and long they're able to 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.960 blitz and get after. Kyle was sacked six times in 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:35.400 this game, seven times, but it never felt to me. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.440 It never felt like, oh boy, here here goes a 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.440 big stack game. You know. It never felt like that. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.600 But because of the pressure that could get on him, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.320 he started to feel a little flustered. And I think 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.640 the biggest difference from those first two drives to that 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.400 very last play was was a confidence in Kyle Allen 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:56.520 had slowly been chipped away because he was running. He 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.040 had to run, He had to start getting out of trouble. 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.360 As the game, when a pressure affects quarterbacks, and even 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:06.600 when there's not pressure there, suddenly they you know, we 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.240 saw a Jets quarterback or this season admit and a 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.000 live mike that he was seeing ghosts. I mean, like 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.200 that's that's a real thing. When when defensive coordinator is 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.160 talking about trying to get after the passer, Yeah, you 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.240 want to get sacks, but just being around him and 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.200 getting him off his spot, disrupting him has a cumulative effect. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.840 And I think that's what we saw from Kyle throughout 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.600 the course of this game was guy who wasn't really 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.920 necessarily trusting the protection in front of him, and when 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.160 that happens, things can break down. On the last play 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.240 of the game, where he's got an uncovered jarious right, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.720 he kind of bails a little quicker than he should 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.960 have and got off his read quicker because you're almost 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.200 anticipating the pressure and and that's what defense has tried 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.440 to do. I mean, that's that's a recipe for success. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.400 What's also a recipe for success defensively is taken away 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.880 one of the best running backs in the game, Christian McCaffrey. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.920 Fourteen carries forty four yards. I mean they bottled him up. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.520 And then to your point, Caroline, when when on first 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.880 down it's either penalty or negative play, and now all 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.840 of a sudden you're in second and long, you've got 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.440 to throw the ball. And again that's taking it out 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.560 of the hands of Christian And unfortunately for Carolina, you'd 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.600 think up fourteen nothing, it's going to be a big 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.280 Christian day, and it was anything but. And you you 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.320 got to give a lot of credit for Washington coming 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.360 in here knowing even down two scores that they were 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.080 going to stick to that game plan. I mean, Bill 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.720 Callahan came in Essentially they put an extra offensive lineman. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.440 In almost the entire second half, it was just gonna 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:21.960 We're just gonna continue to run it on this team 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.040 and make them stop it, and then they never could. Well. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.360 Going back to your comment of even the offense having 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.520 to trust the protection as far as Kyle having to protection, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.520 we heard that same sentiments on the defensive side of 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.360 the ball. This is a quote from Mario Addison when 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.640 asked about what this defense has to do to take 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.600 that next step in stopping the run. What you gotta 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.640 chose each other to do their job. You gotta know 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:52.480 your job and do your job. Simple. It is simple, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.600 But man, it does not seem simple, does it. This 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.400 quote was telling. I thought Mario is always very honest. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.120 He's always very genuine as far as how he feels 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.600 the simple at the end of this is a frustrated 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.320 Mario Addison, and he's not really a player that gets 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.080 frustrated too much, especially in front of the media, but 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.200 this was one He's simple. Yeah, and and it goes 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.440 back to know your job, do your job, and trust 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.399 each other. That just that, that to me says that's 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.240 not happening right now. And I think it's very easy 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.560 when you look at what Washington was able to do. Yeah, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:29.520 there's some there's some miscommunications, Um, are you doing your job? 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.520 And that that comes with the fact that they haven't 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.800 been able to do it consistently. Yeah. And I think 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.560 that when it comes to the ground game, it's a 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:40.840 big pride factor as well. And I think that's kind 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.439 of what you hear from Mario. There is at a 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.040 certain point all these guys these better ends on defense. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.280 It's your pride takes a hit when a team essentially 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:52.000 says we're going to run it until you can stop it. Um. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:53.960 And yeah, I mean, you know, Ron has been asked 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.480 about the scheme about gap control and all those sorts 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.640 of things. But I mean you can see it like 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:01.320 like mistackles, I mean in you're gonna get the guy 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:05.359 down or not. And I think for this defense, what's 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.920 been really frustrating is allowing teams to kind of run 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.520 it down their throats. I mean that's as a defense, 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:18.000 that is a humbling feeling that's been felt too many times. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.800 And I think one of the other things that Mario 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.760 points out and says, you know, look, we've got to 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.520 trust each other, it sort of sounds like he's saying 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.240 without saying it that they haven't been trusting each other. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.960 And if you're gonna play defense at a high level 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.200 in this league, you have to be doing it as one. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.439 You know, it can't be eleven guys kind of if 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.359 you're not in the same page, you know you're you're 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.640 gonna get exposed. And I think that's something that this 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.840 this unit has has struggled with the times. It's guys 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.600 either and I go, We've said it before, trying to 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.640 do too much overcompensating and when that happens, any little 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.080 kind of you know, the armor has a little crack 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.240 at it. It's Adrian Peterson, Darius guys, these guys are 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.159 gonna make you pay. And I mean, and that's what 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.080 we saw to the tune again of eight point three 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.160 yards per attempt, I mean, and they were they were 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.480 lining up to do it. I mean, they knew what 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.560 their intentions. Yes, I mean when when they when they 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.080 had that play of when Petersons touched down the second half, 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.080 they brought everybody in, no wide receivers. It's it's what 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.600 it's you know, it's nine people on the line and 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.240 everyone's in the box. And all it took was sealing 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.040 off two guys and there was no one back except 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.880 for Bradberry. It was it was just like, hey, we're 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.800 gonna run right up the middle and we see where 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.679 we're what you're doing, and we figured out a way 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.680 to get through it, and they did well. I even 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.280 think you go of I'm not trusting each other. We've 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.360 said this a couple of weeks ago about Luke. Luke 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.880 feels like Luke has to do extra and I think 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.320 he's never said that. They've never come out and said this, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.080 but the way that he's playing and makes it feel 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.800 like he can't just focus on his job because he 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.640 feels like he needs to also make sure that okay, Well, 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:55.960 something that happened in this game is our guy is 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.520 not where he needs to be, so I need to 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.480 be there. But then that means it. So it's this 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.480 trickled on effect. And when it starts with your front 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.360 seven of what Mario is saying, and he's maybe talking 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.359 about the whole defense. He didn't point out people, he 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.080 didn't point fingers. It's still this locker room that's staying together. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.960 But there is a little bit of, hey, we've got 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.680 to start trusting each other. I think that trickles down 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.400 to them your second and third line. When you're going 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.719 eight yards per carry, that's hitting into your secondary. So 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.679 that's where we saw, you know, Trey Boston and and 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.240