WEBVTT - Mercedes (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Uh Michael. Yes, when I say, when I

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<v Speaker 1>say the word Mercedes, what comes to mind? Well, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing comes to mind is when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid in an arbor, Michigan, we used to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the University of Michigan basketball games and we would

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<v Speaker 1>go out to the parking lot and try to steal

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<v Speaker 1>hood ornaments off the cars. Right. Terrible, like absolutely, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>terrible thing to do. But what the ones you always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted were the Mercedes. Right. So I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that says about me, my family and my upbringing, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it says something about the brand, just for listeners

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<v Speaker 1>to know. I have a Mercedes hat on today. I

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<v Speaker 1>spent way too much money on it because all F

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<v Speaker 1>one merch costs in our mental leg I mean, can

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<v Speaker 1>somebody a F one throw Lily a couple of hats?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is she buying her own hat? Absolutely? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think what we're getting out of this is that if

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<v Speaker 1>someone from Mercedes, just like the corporation in general, is listening,

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<v Speaker 1>we would like hood ornaments, vintage food ornaments in our possession.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a conic logo that's been around for years and

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<v Speaker 1>people recognize and and believe it means driving, elegance performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably all the words of their marketing team has spent

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars beating into my head for fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're really happy to hear that. But then's

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<v Speaker 1>all it's all not been been for, not that a

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<v Speaker 1>singular person can can recall on a podcast. So today

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast, this is part one of our two

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<v Speaker 1>episodes look into the Mercedes Formula One team. They have

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<v Speaker 1>been one of the most dominant teams in a recent

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<v Speaker 1>memory and maybe ever, and there's plenty to say about

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with them. Now let's hit it. From

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated Studios, this is Choosing

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<v Speaker 1>sides one. Wow, So Mercedes has been in F one

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<v Speaker 1>in the modern era since however, they have obviously been

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<v Speaker 1>doing car things for like a lot longer than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna go all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties, Ben Mercedes was racing cars out there like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. There was actually something in the thirties in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe called the European Championships, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of precursors to F one, and the team actually

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<v Speaker 1>won three titles during that time. Obviously, the European Championships

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<v Speaker 1>took a back seat to a little thing called World

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<v Speaker 1>War two, and uh, and then when F one finally

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<v Speaker 1>got up and running in the fifties, Uh, Mercedes actually

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<v Speaker 1>won two World Drivers titles in a row in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four and nineteen fifty five. So everything's looking peach swell.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing great until uh, the year's nineteen fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>and there is an endurance race that's really iconic called

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty four Hours of Laman Mercedes is in US race,

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<v Speaker 1>and something to keep in mind is that UM safety

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<v Speaker 1>and spectator protocols are not what they are like today.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have people in this race, these spectators who

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<v Speaker 1>are literally almost up against the literal race track, cheering

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<v Speaker 1>for their teams. They're separated by some like makeshift wooden

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<v Speaker 1>fences or like some hay bales. But it's really very

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<v Speaker 1>pretty like I know where this is going. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a multi car pile up and crash has asked

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<v Speaker 1>US trikes at a hundred and twenty five Mercedes collides

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<v Speaker 1>and blows up one of the drivers involved with a

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes driver. This crash sends massive pieces of debris from

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<v Speaker 1>these cars into the spectator areas. In a few ghostly seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>death wipes out whole families, leave, is killed before his lips, eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>and some seventies spectators with him among the bodies. Frantic

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<v Speaker 1>survivors seek their friends, skulls cracking blood. The Mecedes was

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<v Speaker 1>made partly of magnesium man i, which blazes micaphurnace. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's violent. Eight three spectators and dying. Another hundred eight

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<v Speaker 1>people are injured, and this is still one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most catastrophic disasters in motorsports history. Goes on. Keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind it was very normal for like two drivers a

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<v Speaker 1>year to die in f one like in the sixties

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, Like like these this is just part for

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<v Speaker 1>the course. But yeah, the size and scope of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously combined with like some of the photographs that

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<v Speaker 1>have survived, it's a pretty gnarly looking kind of blur

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<v Speaker 1>of black and white photos. Is the nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the first thing that shows up when you put

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen all right, so images there's everyone running to

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<v Speaker 1>their cars for the start, little did they know. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's a picture that looks like it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>World War scene. Yeah, it's fire people screaming. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole bunch of bodies laying on the ground. Wow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it does lead to some some big questions and

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<v Speaker 1>answers around yeah, spectator safety, just general sports safety. For

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes obviously, on top of the fact that their driver

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<v Speaker 1>died in this very tragic, very violent and very public way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's understandably, you know, marketing and pr nightmare right to

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<v Speaker 1>say we are the height of luxury and class and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, and now we're responsible for this terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>awful thing that happened. So Mercedes decides to nope, on

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. They're saying, we are piecing out of

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<v Speaker 1>motorsports entirely, not not just kind of Formula one with

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<v Speaker 1>like everything, we are outie for the time being. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They end up leaving for over thirty years and do

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<v Speaker 1>not enter any form of motor sports racing until Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that dramatic change for them exactly. Yeah, skip to

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<v Speaker 1>they decide they are going to also start getting back

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<v Speaker 1>into Formula One, so they do not enter a team,

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<v Speaker 1>though they do not try and build a team. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they start supplying engines to certain teams that want them.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Mercedes engines are highly coveted. They're they're really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>world renowned, and I think they also just like the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of getting back into that aspect of R and D.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also mention an F one they often call

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<v Speaker 1>engines quote unquote power units. To hear that word, we

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<v Speaker 1>call it a power unit, by the way, not an engine,

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<v Speaker 1>because the power unit is so much more than an engine.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's Formula one journalist Tony Cowen Brown. That's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why so few O e M s

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<v Speaker 1>go into Formula one. What O E M s so

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<v Speaker 1>original equipment manufacturers and against the engine is so complex

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<v Speaker 1>today and I won't even pretend that I can understand

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<v Speaker 1>all the parts involved there. But there are two types

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<v Speaker 1>of teams in Formula one. Every Formula one team out

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<v Speaker 1>of the ten teams is a constructor team, but not

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<v Speaker 1>all teams works team. And what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 1>is a constructor team, or what they call a customer team,

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<v Speaker 1>is a team that essentially builds their car, but they

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<v Speaker 1>will purchase their engine and some other parts from another

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<v Speaker 1>team because at a minimum, as the f I states,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the governing body, at a minimum, these teams

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<v Speaker 1>must build their own car it's what we call the chassis.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to look at the grid right now, where

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<v Speaker 1>you have Mercedes, who is time constructor champion, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a works team that builds their car and their engine

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<v Speaker 1>and sells their units. One of their customer teams is Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>who is all the way at the back of the grid.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a nice explanation of there is more to

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<v Speaker 1>it than just car or driver because essentially Williams and

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes are driving with the same power unit with the

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<v Speaker 1>same engine. Okay, interesting, yeah, Okay. To get to Mercedes,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to talk about two other teams that are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer on the grid. But this is also one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great Cinderella stories of Formula one. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the story, the tale, if you will, of bron GP.

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<v Speaker 1>So bron GP, Yes, strap in get ready. The year

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<v Speaker 1>now is two thousand and eight. We are balls deep

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<v Speaker 1>in a global recession. Everything's going to ship. Michael's coaching

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<v Speaker 1>tennis at the University of Michigan. Just bought his house

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<v Speaker 1>for two dollars, which he will sell in ten years

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<v Speaker 1>for less money than he bought it for. Lily is

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<v Speaker 1>much younger um and is listening to Paramore song Misery

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<v Speaker 1>Business two years after it has come out. I'll repeat

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<v Speaker 1>because she is an emo child teen I'm a teen

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<v Speaker 1>like myself that I'm a teen at this point. But

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<v Speaker 1>the long and short of it is the recession. No

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<v Speaker 1>one's happy, no one's money if one is still racing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, you would just think at a time

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<v Speaker 1>like that, when the housing markets are crashing, that Formula

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<v Speaker 1>one seems even more gratuitous. Yes, exactly, exactly. So. Our

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<v Speaker 1>first main character in the story is Honda. But at

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<v Speaker 1>this point they've had a team for for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of seasons in the mid to late auts and things

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<v Speaker 1>are not going well. They are you know, like, you know, eighth,

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<v Speaker 1>ninth place, what's called P eight, P nine in the

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<v Speaker 1>championship out of you know, ten eleven whatever teams. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really not not doing so hot. And um, Honda says,

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<v Speaker 1>l O l j K. We are pulling out of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nine. We're sorry to say that seven people

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<v Speaker 1>are about to lose their jobs amid the holiday season,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, OOPSI daisy, you know, it's just a real

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<v Speaker 1>real clusterfuck. Um. And so at the last second, we're

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<v Speaker 1>like the pretty much almost literal eleventh hour, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Ross Braun, he is the team principal of the

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<v Speaker 1>Haunted Team. He and the CEO, they say, hey, would

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<v Speaker 1>you be willing to let us buy you out keep

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<v Speaker 1>the team? You know, keep, let everyone keep their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we'll kind of handle financing for next

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<v Speaker 1>season for the most part, but we just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we save the team. Don't let this all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go to waste over this little thing again

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<v Speaker 1>called a global economic crisis. So Honda ends up saying yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ross Broun, technically on the documents buys a Formula

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<v Speaker 1>one team for one pound. Yeah. Great, They kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just they have to do some type of business transaction

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<v Speaker 1>and they do that. They pund a one pound buy

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<v Speaker 1>out of this of this team. And as if things

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<v Speaker 1>were not already weird enough. Uh, we talked on our

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<v Speaker 1>intro episode about how F one comes out with new

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<v Speaker 1>regulations every couple of years to increase competitiveness and and

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<v Speaker 1>help with safety and all that. New regular lations were

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<v Speaker 1>starting with the beginning of the two thousand nine season.

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<v Speaker 1>So this team now has a new kind of ownership. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they have new regulations, they have less money to start

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<v Speaker 1>out with, and they did or under normal circumstances. Most

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<v Speaker 1>even the quote unquote poorer teams on the grid have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mit five million for the most part. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a driver on this team, you're like this sucks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, what the And by the way, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>certain growing up we had a Honda lawnmower. Just think

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I don't think we had a Mercedes Lawmore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Mercedes would make a lawnmore, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be incredibly expensive, but it probably very sleek and

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<v Speaker 1>very trendy. Yeah, you know it is. It is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to think of Honda in this premier racing league when

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<v Speaker 1>really they probably made the nuts and bolts of their business.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like the Honda Civic, maybe the Accord, maybe my lawnmower.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I'll explain the why this happened

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<v Speaker 1>a second. But to get to the season, the first

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<v Speaker 1>race comes around. The two drivers we have are these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Jensen Button, who's sort of this I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, almost playboy but kind of party boy British

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<v Speaker 1>guy Button and Uh and his teammate Rubens Barrichello, who

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<v Speaker 1>is most known for being the longtime teammate of Michael Schumacher,

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<v Speaker 1>legendary if one driver at Ferrari, and they are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the longest and most successful partnerships in F one history.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you've got Rubens, You've got Jensen. They are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of they were already signed to the team when

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<v Speaker 1>they were with Honda's. They're just kind of yoloing this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing, like like they're in it for like the

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<v Speaker 1>ride to they have no idea what's gonna happen when

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<v Speaker 1>no one knows who's gonna happen. There's not high hopes

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<v Speaker 1>for bron g P when they start, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>qualifying session and um buns on that first to finish.

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<v Speaker 1>They end up going one two in the first race

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. What that's amazing, sensational, sensation fantastic, And

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<v Speaker 1>then Jensen Button ends up winning six of the first

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<v Speaker 1>seven races. Oh you have thank you, thank you, So

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen Button in bron GYP wins the Ribber's Championship, braun

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<v Speaker 1>g P walks await the Constructor's title. Fantastic. They are

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the world, and so of course thing

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably wondering what the hell happened, Like how did

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<v Speaker 1>they pull that off? Were they cheating? No, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the classic F one thing of barely not cheating,

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<v Speaker 1>um and cheating. That should be the name of someone's memoir.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely like the subtitle of F one. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one colin barely not cheating. So essentially, the very

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<v Speaker 1>smart people at the Honda Brawn GP whatever you want

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<v Speaker 1>to call it factory are reading through these new regulations

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<v Speaker 1>and basically within the engine there's something called a diffuser,

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<v Speaker 1>and that we can go into forever about what it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It would just take forever. But essentially what they do

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<v Speaker 1>is they're supposed to make the diffuser smaller, and what

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<v Speaker 1>they end up doing is almost splitting it into and

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<v Speaker 1>creating what's called now a double diffuser. So they find

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<v Speaker 1>this loophole, this very specific loophole, and exploit it to

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<v Speaker 1>do something funky to this diffuser. So when they innovate

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<v Speaker 1>their car, obviously there's great effort put into keeping that

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<v Speaker 1>a secret from the other teams. Yes, it's such an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting dance between we want you to innovate, but don't

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<v Speaker 1>be so good that we'll then have to write exactly

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<v Speaker 1>interesting history. Where are they now? A good question. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into more of the team history after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>So we find get to the part of the story

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<v Speaker 1>where Mercedes comes back into the picture. Here, like two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand's it's around the same time Mercedes is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>potentially entering Formula one. For any any kind of organization

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to enter something like Formula one, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of options. So one, you could spend untold

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of money and resources building a team from scratch, right,

0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.520
<v Speaker 1>developing a car from scratch, building a factory and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that infrastructure from scratch, which is just Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think even the most egotistical of billionaires are not that

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<v Speaker 1>egotistical to where they're too much work too like even

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, get the central hub where training

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<v Speaker 1>is too much work exactly like buy a ship team

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<v Speaker 1>and try to exactly So Mercedes goes the route that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you know, up upstarted teams. Do they

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<v Speaker 1>buy an existing team? Which team do they buy? Bron

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<v Speaker 1>GP coming out of this very exciting season. Yeah, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I have to say this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great day for us obviously to start a new season

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<v Speaker 1>with Mersey to Spence Grand Prix team with an own

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one team? Is something really special for us? This

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<v Speaker 1>must have been enormous when Mercedes got back in to motorsport.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this their debut into Formula one since the crash? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this was huge news. Here's why it's even bigger. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one fans around the world, Michael are very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>There you are. You can see the Mercedes Ben's logo

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<v Speaker 1>behind you. You're returning to Formula one. Tell us what

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<v Speaker 1>your emotions are like Mercedes Lands. Seven time world champion.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Schumacher actually joined the team. Fantastic excitement after I

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<v Speaker 1>got the call from from Ross in November providing a

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<v Speaker 1>silver arrow and I'm going to be able to sit

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<v Speaker 1>inside and and throw it around. I mean, that's really

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff. So Michael Schumacher had famously retired from F one,

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<v Speaker 1>made a big deal out of the retirement, and basically

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<v Speaker 1>in the ensuing years, Michael Schumacher is basically still at races,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the paddock and everyone's like, Michael, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do something like he just misses it. He feels

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<v Speaker 1>it really wasn't his time or that he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of not forced out, but people were like, you should

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to leave you've won seven of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>The singular focus that it takes to be at that level,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't know about, like none of us know about.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when you just leave, you don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything else exactly. Don't even know how to

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<v Speaker 1>sit and have breakfast with your wife. Man, all you

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<v Speaker 1>know how to do is just think about the race,

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<v Speaker 1>think about the engine, think about the team. Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't handle it. Yeah. So, so we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>new era Michael Schumacher. You know, his teammate is a

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<v Speaker 1>young guy named Nico Rossberg, whose dad Kick Rossberg one

0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.560
<v Speaker 1>with in Formula one decades prior. SOO got this fun,

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<v Speaker 1>little very blond lineup going on at the new Mercedes,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, sure enough, the first couple of years a

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<v Speaker 1>little rocky, they do, you know, like like Michael Schumacher

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<v Speaker 1>has his worst I think three seasons ever and f

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<v Speaker 1>one right he ends up, you know, uh P eight,

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<v Speaker 1>P nine, I think P. Thirteen and Michael Jordan playing

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<v Speaker 1>for the Wizards similarly, yeah a little bit. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>have Nico Rosberg driving for them, Michael Schumacher driving for them. Okay,

0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.480
<v Speaker 1>big names in motorsport, but actually they weren't particularly successful.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was Jenny Gal She's a prominent of one

0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 1>reporter for the BBC and other media outlets, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was featured as a commentator in Drive to Survive. So

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<v Speaker 1>year on year they were still looking for that winning

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<v Speaker 1>formula and they were starting to accrue some of the

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<v Speaker 1>top personnel. They already had a lot on their books,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they started to poach others. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>James Allison, one of the most successful technical directors in

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one, was poached from Ferrari and came across to Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 1>They just started to put in place the best team

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<v Speaker 1>possible with Nicki Louder, their former F one driver and champion,

0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.280
<v Speaker 1>but passed away a couple of years ago. Toto Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>came on board. Who you know that between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of them ran Mercedes. So we're coming into which is

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<v Speaker 1>when all the rules changed and the engines became hybrid engine. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all driving prius Is at this point, I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see Lewis Hamilton's drive around in a Prius.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little different. No, they're not. Basically, without getting

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<v Speaker 1>to two technical A big part of the regulations in

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<v Speaker 1>this turbo hybrid era come from the fact that Formula

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<v Speaker 1>one had started receiving a ton of criticism for not

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<v Speaker 1>being particularly environmentally sustainable. So huge part of this and

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<v Speaker 1>creating engines that run on both fuel as well electricity

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<v Speaker 1>is signaling to everyone that F one takes this seriously interestingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of the last decade. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>cars are some of the most efficient when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to energy and power and fuel usage, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that technology then is now what we see in

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<v Speaker 1>cars on the road as well. So just to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit of comparison here, first, here's what

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<v Speaker 1>a twin thirteen Formula one engine sounded like. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's listen. Then when this turbo hybrid era started, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what a twenty fourteen engine sounds like. Wow, that's very different.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would assume, if anything, the cars as equally,

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<v Speaker 1>if not faster, exactly. Yeah, So it's the whole idea is, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not losing performance, you're just making it more efficient

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<v Speaker 1>and environmentally friendly. It is odd that every time they

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<v Speaker 1>change regulation it ultimately changes everything. I mean, even changing

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<v Speaker 1>the point after a touchdown back to the thirty yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever that took like thirty years of football for them

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Maybe it's just it's so much change is

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<v Speaker 1>so difficult to make, and it seems like Formula one

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<v Speaker 1>does it often. Maybe what would happen if football did

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<v Speaker 1>change the rules every year? Right? And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would be interesting. Yeah, I would personally just love to

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<v Speaker 1>see the other chaos. Take the helmets off. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to solve concussions. No more helmets because they're not going

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to use their helmets as weapons anyways, normal pads just like,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the old school leather helmets and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no forward passing. You know, why not make it a

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred yard field. See what happens? Multiple footballs exactly

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.120
<v Speaker 1>completely deflated, no no no air in them to speak up,

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<v Speaker 1>just like this weird pigskin thing, which just kind of yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Something else to note. A big announcement

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<v Speaker 1>is made and Mercedes is bringing in a new driver

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a young man named Lewis Hamilton's. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was crazy to go across the Mercedes at

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<v Speaker 1>the time because they weren't a championship contender of a team.

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>People thought he was nuts for leaving McLaren, a historic

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<v Speaker 1>team that had been around for decades to go to

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<v Speaker 1>this weird new shop at Mercedes that had been sprung

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<v Speaker 1>out of this weird brawn GP sitch. So see us.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was sort of confused, surprised, already saying you, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just left up his career. I won't go too

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<v Speaker 1>much into Lewis's background because he is the star, or

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<v Speaker 1>one of the two stars of our next episode all

0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>about the Mercedes drivers. So Mercedes started winning championships in

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and Gentlemen, two Formula One World champion and from

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<v Speaker 1>that point on it won every championship. Every year, Mercedes

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<v Speaker 1>are the champions again. Of course, with that result, the

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<v Speaker 1>teams won the Constructors Championship for third consecutive year. Who

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<v Speaker 1>would have ever thought a few years ago that we

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to hold the celebration with a fifth

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:48.680
<v Speaker 1>consecutive double championship title, getting their lewishadron seven times, seven times,

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>eight consecutive Constructors World Championships until well, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens this year. Yeah. So that's that's Mercedes overall to

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<v Speaker 1>present day. So they were excellent, had an enormous crash,

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<v Speaker 1>stayed out of the sport for thirty years, came back

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<v Speaker 1>in through an odd acquirement of basically Honda's team at

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<v Speaker 1>a third of the price, made some changes, brought in

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<v Speaker 1>Lewis Hamilton's and has dominated exactly. Yeah, it's a very

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<v Speaker 1>successful manufacturer. It provides some of the engines for the

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<v Speaker 1>other teams as well. Um and it attracts some of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest players in Formula One when it comes to drivers, sponsorship, marketing,

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>all of the deals that go around because of its success.

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<v Speaker 1>It so current present day. So we have these new

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<v Speaker 1>legs two, and very early on it became pretty apparent

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<v Speaker 1>that Mercedes car was not looking as hot going into

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<v Speaker 1>They have an issue that is called porpoising, and the

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<v Speaker 1>issue is basically that aerodynamically, if they're going very fast,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a straight line, the cars bounce up and

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<v Speaker 1>down very quickly because it's just not aerodynamically sound bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>up and down. I know this, let's listening, still bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. You hear the skipping of the floor. I

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>mean that that doesn't doesn't control. Did they think about

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>putting bags of kitty litter in the trunk or something,

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's what you do in Michigan when it's icy up. Yeah,

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that cross the vines yes, that was very scientific.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so so Mercedes is at a weird point

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<v Speaker 1>where they're not doing horrifically badly. They're just not the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant force. You know, there was a season where they,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of their two drivers one nineteen of

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<v Speaker 1>the races in a season kind of things. You go

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<v Speaker 1>from that too, You're it's like a little bouncy house

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<v Speaker 1>down a track, you know, it feels like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of a fall. But this is also what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about sport. I mean, Mercedes was out for a

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>two years. They didn't have to worry about this ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you enter, you now have to win, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they won for a while, but you can't

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 1>keep winning all the times. They pay the other teams

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>too to be competitive. So yeah, yeah, well, Johan I

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.199
<v Speaker 1>were trying to think of a tagline for Mercedes. The

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>one that he came up with, which I think is

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the best working one for now, is um, they're like

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the team you you love to hate, right because they're

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>they're winning all the time. Is this the New York Yankees?

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>The Formula One? Yeah, you know in yeah and this

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>turbo hybrid era. That is what Mercedes is. Their team

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is so disciplined, so dominant. Obviously they probably get a

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 1>little cocky because they're used to just winning everything. They

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>have the best driver or one of the you know,

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>best drives of all time, that's Lewis Hamiltons Lewis Hamilton's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So so they're kind of been a weird spot where

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<v Speaker 1>they have. They're a little uncomfortable. They have not been

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<v Speaker 1>around here in quite some time, and it's been pretty

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>apparent in interviews that they're two drivers are just yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little a little bit annoyed that know they're they're

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>they're struggling so much. Well, there is Peyton for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel you maximized everything you could in the

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>cow given all the conditions today? I mean, personally, I

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm maximized everything. I don't know if we

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.719
<v Speaker 1>did as a team. Who's in charge of Mercedes? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who's making these calls they do? Please tell me that

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.120
<v Speaker 1>the person has a name that sounds like a villain

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and Disney. You are in luck. Oh my god. The

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>person is a man named Toto Wolf. Of course, his

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 1>names are outrageous, otherwise known as Daddy Toto. I promised

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Daddy issues to too is Yeah, truly an icon of

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<v Speaker 1>the sport. I'm gonna google, I'm gonna show you. I

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 1>brought pictures. Ready, this is Daddy Toto. Wolf's gonna describe

0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Toto for everyone. This is a handsome man. This is

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>a handsome man. Full head of hair. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in Formula one has a full head of hair

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to a lot of a lot of cosmetic procedures.

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<v Speaker 1>Classic German picture of him standing in front of a

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<v Speaker 1>snow capped mountain. And you know, I'm noticing with a

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<v Speaker 1>Formula one everyone looks and exudes wealth. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of layers, there's nice watches. He's a billionaire, so I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he's wealth yes, you know, And I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>draw this comparison, but he looks like me. I'm just kidding, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a This is a handsome looking dude.

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<v Speaker 1>He exudes confidence and wealth. He's six ft five. He's

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<v Speaker 1>very imposing in the world of Formula one. Being six

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<v Speaker 1>ft five, you might as well be a giant. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he works out. You can tell he works out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that that's that's who they have. I work out,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can tell that he works out. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Yes, so that that is Total Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>to the Austrian team principle of the Mercedes of one team.

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<v Speaker 1>He is very large, very imposing. Total is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>known for yet being this kind of hyper efficient businessman. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also very big on if if your ego is

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the way of the team, he will call

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<v Speaker 1>you out on it and has no problem being like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sucked up. You need to get over it, Like

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<v Speaker 1>go go in a corner and figure it out and

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<v Speaker 1>come back when you're ready to be a team player.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not messing around. Total, we'll put you in

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<v Speaker 1>check exactly. Yeah, I mean, funk, it's already hard enough

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<v Speaker 1>trying to drive these things that you got this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in your head. Yeah, he's a pretty intense guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>he also yeah, likes to keep things close to the vest,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very calculated as to when he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lets those go rip, right, it's a it's a choice exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you never feel like he's being impulsive. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's Uh, that's Total Wolf. Alright, Total Nice to meet you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>He he looms large in uh and he's also I

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<v Speaker 1>think an easy person to love to hate too, because

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<v Speaker 1>he is imposing, not a guy where you you would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of casually like, ah, that's someone I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>small talk with you. He's also there's nothing about him

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<v Speaker 1>that says underdog. You know, he is the punching up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Mercedes, it's wealth, it's the look, and uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think I've got a grasp on that. Excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do a quick break and then we'll be back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess overall, if I had to sum up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the hitch for Mercedes, you're sort of like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you pitch a team to anyone to to

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<v Speaker 1>root for? You know, why why am I buying this

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<v Speaker 1>fifty dollar hat for for a team that that is

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<v Speaker 1>dominated for close to a decade, right? Um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of good arguments. One, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>aren't invincible, so we're seeing a little bit of their

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<v Speaker 1>their vulnerable side. So if you you're someone who maybe

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<v Speaker 1>wants a little bit of an underdog flavor without having

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<v Speaker 1>to commit to like a true underdog at the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the grid, you know, Mercedes has that they do

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<v Speaker 1>have this wacky history with Brown g p uh Yokai.

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<v Speaker 1>What would what would you add to why Mercedes well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you want to make a safe bet,

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<v Speaker 1>Mercedes is like, you know, it's a safe bet. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the history, they have the drivers, They're definitely financed, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well financed. They they have the best engineers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some some people like to win. Like if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you like your team to win, are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>use you popping in like on the audio? I like

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<v Speaker 1>that first of all, thank you know, it gives another

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<v Speaker 1>It gives another layer. I always like in the producer's policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd also say too that if if any team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to struggle but like figure their ship out, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>bet on Mercedes, you know. Whereas there other teams where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, their their car is not good this year,

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<v Speaker 1>like oh we're fucked for the entire year, like best

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<v Speaker 1>of luck to you, Whereas like Mercedes, I'm like, you know,

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you had some people a couple of races in two already,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ruling them out, and I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of races this there's almost two dozen

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<v Speaker 1>races this season. I think they'll figure it out. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance that Mercedes going to figure out whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the issue is and at least not be embarrassing for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season. You know what I'm finding

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about this is so much of sport, it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of determined who you're supposed to cheer for based on

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<v Speaker 1>where you're from. Yeah, what's interesting about Formula one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>such a mix of nationalities. You're essentially picking either the brand,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love this brand so much, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>cheer for Mercedes or Williams and not Williams. But essentially

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<v Speaker 1>you're picking the personality of the either the principal or

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<v Speaker 1>the to dry Iver's. It lends itself to some heartache

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>because you know the drivers are gonna leave eventually, You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go everywhere. So it's it's interesting that, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>get to pick a team, but that's also what everybody

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<v Speaker 1>gets to do, because it's not like, oh, shoot, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Detroit, I have to be a Lions fan, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to actually decide what team I want to

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just described the whole podcast just now

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<v Speaker 1>hitting me in the head of what this is. Congratulations Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two only took two full episodes to get part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless Unless, I'll just say, unless you're Italian, okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that is there. There's a clear Italian

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<v Speaker 1>team Ferrari. So I'll say this, I understand the the

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<v Speaker 1>compulsion of maybe finding a Mercedes team to support and love. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want something a little not as h for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I want something a little more underdog. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>my team principle to have a seven camera professional photo

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<v Speaker 1>shoot in front of a snow mountain. I want there

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<v Speaker 1>would be a little more grit. If that's so. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about Louis Hamilton's or the other drivers.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have grit to be successful. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my initial take on Mercedes is a hate herbal team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need that elegant brand logo in my life. Personally.

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<v Speaker 1>You need you need to to have a little more

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<v Speaker 1>dirt on his face. He's too uh. I just it

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<v Speaker 1>feels a little too constructed. I think I might be right,

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong. I don't know. And for for

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<v Speaker 1>any listener disagreeing with me, keep in mind, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the very first team principle I've ever met, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I can't really compare him to anyone else. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know that was the word. So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the that that's kind of a story and history

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<v Speaker 1>of Mercedes. Uh, that's that's where we're coming from, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're using that information to set the scene for the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. We're going to drive to drive. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to dive into the two current drivers on this team.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Lewis Hamilton's seven time world champion, considered a goat,

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<v Speaker 1>if not v goat of Formula one, greatest of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have his new teammate as of this season,

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<v Speaker 1>George Russell, who is out here trying to prove himself

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<v Speaker 1>after a few funky, weird years on a not so

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<v Speaker 1>great team in the sport. So that will be the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. I think we should be driving into each episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not diving. Really missed opportunity on my part. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, we should all just pack it up

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<v Speaker 1>and go home. I've completely missed the boat on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it. It was a good mistake. This has been

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<v Speaker 1>Choosing Sides F one, a production of Sports Illustrated Studios

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