1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Certain portions of what you're about to hear have been 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: dramatized based on real life events, eyewitness accounts, and court records. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: When I find out my best friend is scamming me, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I decided to start a blog. I know there must 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: be others out there, others I should warn, But I 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: didn't know I'd be rescuing an unsuspecting Newport Beach engineer 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: from losing millions of dollars. Oh, she was trying to 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: get ahold of his property, both of them. I don't 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: just stop with the blog. I bust her scamming techniques 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: for impersonating celebrities wide open. She would set up Google 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: accounts and phone numbers and tag Jennifer Aniston into it 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: so it would come up on her phone or email 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: that jen was calling, or JEM was emailing, or Jem 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: was texting. I also exploit the fact that Mayor Smith 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: carelessly shares really private information with victims she's scamming. She 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: gave you her email password. Why because she couldn't figure 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: out how to use a goddamn fire stick for someone 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: so smart and conniving. Pretty dumb move, right. I use 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: that intel to get into her email account and uncover 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: evidence of dozens of different scams she's pulling. I also 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: uncover something else, So what's sugar Daddy for Me dot com? 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Sugar daddies pay sugar babies, and she had multiple men 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: paying her a monthly fee for sex. I'm Jonathan Walton 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and this is Queen of the Con Episode five. The 25 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Politician gotta admit I had no idea a dating site 26 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: like sugar Daddy for Me dot com listed, But after 27 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: uncovering dozens of email exchanges from a bunch of different 28 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: men from that site in Mayor's email account, I am 29 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: shocked and I share this latest development with my buddy Evan. Yeah. 30 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: It's like escort. Yeah. I mean they say they're not prostitutes, 31 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: and listen, nothing's wrong with being a prostitute. If I 32 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: was a better looking man, I would be a prostitute. 33 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta work what you got and nothing 34 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: against prostitutes, but it is what it is. Sex for 35 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: money is prostitute, right, So Sugar Daddy for Me is 36 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: a thinly veiled way for women to find men who 37 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: will pay them for sex, which isn't too far off 38 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: from j D eight. I should point out here that 39 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: sugar Daddy for me dot com says they're not about prostitution. 40 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: There were website for women who agree that quote. It's 41 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: just as easy to fall in love with a rich 42 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: man as a poor man. But Mayor's scammy twist at 43 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: being a sugar baby is obviously not a part of 44 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: their terms of service. She uses the email handle your 45 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Galway Girl to create a profile back in Galway is 46 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: actually a well known city in Ireland, and this proves 47 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: that as far back as ten years ago, Mayor was 48 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: pretending to be Irish and a lot of men in 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: southern California ate it up like boiled bacon and cabbage. 50 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: That's a famous dish in Ireland. According to Google, she 51 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: had multiple men paying her a monthly fee for sex. 52 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: And the one thing all these men had in common 53 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: other than they're paying for sex, is they were all married. 54 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: They were married men who didn't, I guess want because 55 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: every time if you're a married man and you want 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: to have an affair, you run the risk of the 57 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: woman falling in love or telling your wife or whatever. 58 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: This was a way to ensure that you're getting kind 59 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: of a professional sex partner who's just doing it for money. 60 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: She's not going to go to your wife. You're safe. 61 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I start pouring over all the email exchanges between Mayor 62 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: a k A. Your Galway girl and these various married 63 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: men paying her a thousand dollars a month, sometimes more 64 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: for sex. And the one thing they all have in 65 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: common is whenever the men try to end their sugar 66 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Daddy arrangement, Mayor pulls one of the oldest ploys out 67 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: of her bottomless bag of tricks, extortion. Mayor flipped the 68 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: script on all of them and started blackmailing them. So 69 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: when the men grew tired of her, as men do 70 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: grow tired of, you know whatever, the mistress becomes the 71 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: regular and it's boring. They want to end the arrangement. 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: And with each man, she would threaten to go to 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: their wives unless they paid her five thousand dollars or 74 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: four thousand dollars or three thousand dollars. I'll send all 75 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: our email exchanges to your wife. I'll come visit you 76 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: at your homes. Here's one exchange between your Galway girl 77 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: a k A. Mayor Smith and a mayor married man 78 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles who's trying to end his sugar daddy 79 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: arrangement with her. Mare flies off the handle and gets 80 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: very upset that he's dumping her, and he's trying to 81 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: calm her down while dismissing her anger as a misunderstanding. 82 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: But it's not a misunderstanding at all. He doesn't want 83 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: to pay her for sex anymore, and that makes her furious. 84 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. One thing about email or instant messaging 85 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: is the interpretation of what I said. I don't want 86 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: to make you angry and make you feel hurt. We're 87 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: again at a crossroads, and I feel bad. But with 88 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: everything going on in my life, I can't handle anything 89 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: else stressful. I need to go. I did not misread 90 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: the chats. I will mail them to you and you 91 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: can read them when they arrive. I printed them out 92 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: after getting your last email. You have made me very 93 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: angry if you are not going to honor your promise. 94 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I do not know what else to say to you 95 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: but that I am sorry and I gave you the 96 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: opportunity to do the right thing. What do you mean 97 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: mail them to me? Mail them to you postal service. 98 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: You don't have my address. Email it to me. I 99 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: do have your address. I will send it in the morning. Wow. 100 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I cannot believe you're going to do that now it 101 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: sounds like extortion, so I guess I need to contact 102 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: legal authorities. You know you promised to pay me twice 103 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: a month. That is a fact. I didn't make it 104 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: up or misinterpret anything. Please don't send me a copy. 105 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't need to see it. When you say you're 106 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: sending it to me when you could have easily emailed 107 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: it to me. Why would I not think the worst, 108 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: especially when you say you have my address and I 109 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: don't know how you got it. There are many women 110 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: out there who try to extore money from guys, and 111 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: I never ever thought that was you. I still don't 112 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,799 Speaker 1: think it's you, but the emails got me to think 113 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe I was wrong. I really do want to see you, 114 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: but I have no time now or in the very 115 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: near future. As for me giving you a thousand dollars, 116 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: it was my understanding that it was based on seeing 117 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: each other. I want you to call the authorities. I 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: want what you promised me. You need to do right 119 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: by me, not treat me like I'm an extortionist or crazy. 120 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: You can admit it and take care of me like 121 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you promised me because you are a good person, or 122 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: we can continue to fight I want you to send 123 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the money. End of argument. You don't have to be 124 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: a psychic like Mayor to see how this ends. All 125 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: these shakedowns come to a head in pretty much the 126 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: same way, and all of them paid her to go away, 127 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: and they're not going to go to police. Yeah, they're 128 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: not going to go to police. But yeah, it all 129 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: just arted on the magical website sugar Daddy for me 130 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: dot com. She was a sugar baby an SB. Yeah. 131 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: I think she aged sugar baby though she's more of 132 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: like a sugar mommy, and with age comes wisdom and 133 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: bigger shakedowns, much bigger. Shortly after her last Sugar Daddy 134 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: downians in may of Mayor steps up to the major's 135 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: and begins dating the politician. He's rich, he's famous in 136 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Los Angeles political circles at least, and he's looking for 137 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: a little fun on the side. By the way. A 138 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: lot of Mayor's victims have questioned whether the politician really 139 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: exists at all, and I assured them as I'll assure 140 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: you he does. Did you ever meet that guy? I 141 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: did meet the politician. I met the politician three times. 142 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: The first time I met him was at her tree 143 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: trimming party. He was there with all of the other 144 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: employees from Pacific Islands. Seemed like a nice I he 145 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: was real. The second time I we double dated, and 146 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: then the third time I met him was when he 147 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: gave me cash after I built her out of jail. 148 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: He paid me back. And you've been very secretive about 149 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: this politician, like you've never even told me his name. No, well, 150 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be known. He specifically asked me. 151 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: He's given me information and I'm grateful, but he doesn't 152 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: want to be involved. He's married with kids, like, he 153 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: doesn't want any part because she was like a mistress, right, 154 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: she was his mistress. Yeah. Sifting through the wreckage of 155 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: all of mere scams to find the black box and 156 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: analyze all her prolific and elaborate confidence tricks, it's a 157 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: fascinating study in abject hubris. I mean, she's got a 158 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: big fish like the politician on the hook, right, And 159 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: instead of being furtive and keeping her high dollar mark 160 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: to herself, she does the opposite. She introduces him to 161 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of other victims she's scamming at the same 162 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: time she's scamming him. Now, he had a relationship with her, 163 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: didn't he Oh, absolutely, Before Mayor scammed strip club manager 164 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Sherry Cooper, she forged a deep friendship with her and 165 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: inserted the politician into Sherry's daily life. Because I was 166 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: in the car when she was talking to them, and 167 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: she was like, don't say anything, because she did that 168 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. She'd have them in the 169 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: car as witnesses and call him and he had no idea. 170 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: He's thinking he's having this illicit affair, but in reality, 171 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: she's using him in his quote power to scam people, 172 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, because she's dating a politician. And it wasn't 173 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: long before Sherry actually met and hung out with Mayor 174 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: and the politician together. Least teaser about him all the time. 175 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: I said. I used to say, if you're going to 176 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: have a fair why are you having an affair with 177 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: an old man? He's decrepit, I said, he wears his 178 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: pants up under his chest. I said, he's nasty. Mar 179 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: I said, look at his face. He's nasty. He's a 180 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: wrinkled up old man. Why are you having any You're 181 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: a good looking woman, you're looking woman. You have an 182 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: affair with a nice young man. Only she had these 183 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: sexual exploit stories a dog, Oh my God, and all 184 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: these sex toys and all this stuff kinky sex aside. 185 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: The scams Mayor pulls on the politician are many and 186 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: extremely elaborate. I heard about the one where she took 187 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: the money to Virginia. Mayor's email account is an intricate 188 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: roadmap for this doozy of a con. So pay attention 189 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: when they start dating. In the politician makes the mistake 190 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: of telling Mayor about a crazy mistress he had years 191 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: before who is now living in Virginia. Months later, right 192 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: before an election, Mayor impersonates this mistress via text and 193 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: email and threatens to go public with evidence of the 194 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: politician's past affair with her. So the politician, scared and 195 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: starting to panic, leans on his current mistress Mayor for 196 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: help and advice, and in no time, Mayor is texting 197 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: and emailing with the ex mistress. She's also pretending to 198 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: be and working out a fifty dollar hush money payment. 199 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: So the politician puts fifty dollars in cash in a 200 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: suitcase and gives it to Mayor, and Mayor promises she'll 201 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: deliver it to the ex mistress in Virginia herself and 202 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: get a nondisclosure agreement signed, when in reality, she just 203 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: went home with her bag of cash and laid low 204 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: for a few days to trick the politician into thinking 205 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: she flew to Virginia. And she told me that she 206 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: was taking his money there too, you know, so that 207 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: he didn't have to confront her to pay off a mistress. 208 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, she told me that too. So at the time, 209 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: we were best friends, and I believed that she was 210 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: helping the politician paid off a mistress before in election 211 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: so she doesn't go. So he gave her a suitcase 212 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: full of cash. I believed it around the same time 213 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: in that Mayor is supposedly flying to Virginia to pay 214 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: off the politician's ex mistress with fifty dollars cash in hand. 215 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Mayor's co worker at Pacific Islands, Michelle Roque, is helping 216 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Mayor deposit large amounts of cash at various A T. M. 217 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: Machines in Los Angeles on several occasions. There was one 218 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: time on the way to work early in the morning, 219 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: she told me, oh, let's stop at the bank because 220 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: the politician gave me some money so I can deposit it. 221 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: And I tell you, this is blat of cash, and 222 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I was holding the cash in my hand, helping her 223 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: deposited in the machine. And how much money did she 224 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: say the politician gave her? How much did you think 225 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: you were looking at at least eight thousand dollars for 226 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: that one morning alone, and she's depositing it in the 227 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: ATM machine and you're holding the bag. I'm holding the 228 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: money while she puts them in because the bank was 229 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: still closed. It was like seven thirty year whatever time 230 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: before work. It's like, Oh, we'll just go to Chase 231 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: and we'll just deposited in the machine. So I was 232 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: hanging onto the money. Was she feeds it? Any concerns 233 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Michelle has about all this cash, Mayor quickly and convincingly 234 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: explains away the politician is supposedly helping Mayor get her 235 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: inheritance from her family, and he's giving her some of 236 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: it in cash. YadA, YadA, YadA. But there's one glaring 237 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: inconsistency in mayor story about the politician that makes no 238 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: sense at all. To Michelle, I actually met him, You 239 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: didn't mean, Yes, I did. We went to McCormick, had 240 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: a happy hour, the three of us, So he was 241 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: pretty nice. Did you know he was married. No, I 242 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't until later on when he was doing a speech 243 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: on TV. Let's go watch him, right, he's going to 244 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: be on TV because he's campaigning, right, So when he 245 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: said something about I want to thank my wife, I 246 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: was like, whoa wait a minute, hold on, and then 247 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: she insists. He goes, no, she didn't say a wife. 248 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: He said girlfriend. I said, I was watching it, Mayor, 249 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: and he said wife. Wow, that's so weird. So Mayor 250 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: tried to hide the fact that he had a wife 251 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: from you. But she told me that from the very beginning, 252 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: that you know, she's the mistress and he has a wife, 253 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: and it's a loveless marriage, and it's an arrangement they have. 254 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: And it's funny though that the little tweaks of the 255 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: story that you got versus the story that I got. 256 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Mayor must have had a reason to want Michelle to 257 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: believe that the politician was not married. It might have 258 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: had something to do with the fact that Mayor portrayed 259 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: herself to Michelle as a devout Catholic, as a conservative Republican, 260 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: as a real churchgoing stickler for the Ten Commandments and 261 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: the Bible. Whatever plan Mayor had to con Michelle must 262 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: have hinged on Michelle believing all that stuff. But Sherry 263 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: Cooper got a different version of Mayor altogether. Around Sherry 264 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: Mayor portrayed herself as promiscuous and bragged about her many 265 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: sexual conquests. Oh my God, and all these sex toys 266 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And she wanted me to go 267 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: into the sex toy industry with her, and I was 268 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: like Dad. No, Mayor must have thought Sherry, being a 269 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: strip club manager would relate more to that character as 270 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: opposed to the devout Catholic woman character. Mayor talks about 271 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: her ability to morph into different people for the various 272 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: men she dates in that newly discovered audio recording we 273 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: heard in the last episode. I was different with Robert 274 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: than I am with I was different with Philip than 275 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: I am with Robert. Because women men adapt to the 276 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: person there with, they don't have to change totally. How 277 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: Mayor keeps all the many variations of her one personality 278 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: straight from victim to victim and conto con is something 279 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: that still inspires up begrudging awe in me, even if 280 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: there were chinks in the armor. She was a brilliant woman. 281 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: She was in some respects, but in others not so much. 282 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Like she gave me her email password. Yeah, that was 283 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: a That was a mess, wasn't it. And I wasn't 284 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: the only one. She gave the nanny Bob's nanny. I 285 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: don't think you ever met her, Sarah. She gaves Sarah 286 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: was helping her set up her Amazon firestick, and she 287 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: gave Sarah her password over the phone. So it's like, 288 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: on one hand, she's running all these cons she's no, 289 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: she knows she's scamming all these people, and yet she's 290 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: giving her victims like immunition against her. One day, Jesus 291 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: Mayor eventually tries to trick Sherry into helping her scam 292 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: the politician, but first she has to figure out a 293 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: clever way to get Sherry inside his office. It's human nature, really, 294 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: when people are in a bind, the power of suggestion 295 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: is very, very persuasive. She took me to him for 296 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: a meeting for a consultation because the clubs I was 297 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: working for weren't paying me correctly at one of the clubs, 298 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and I was piste off about it and I wanted 299 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: to know what my rights were, and she took me. 300 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: She took me there and I I met with him, 301 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: sat in on an appointment. She didn't go, but she 302 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: lined it up and I had a consultation with him. 303 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: Shortly after that consultation in the politician dumps Mayor, so 304 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: she tries to convince Sherry to convince her husband Andre 305 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: to be her felony reconnaissance team. I can't believe she 306 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: wanted him to win and bug his office talking about 307 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: your your husband, and she wanted you guys to bug 308 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: his office. What she wanted me to get him to 309 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: go to his office and put a bug in his office. 310 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: And she was going to buy the bug, and she 311 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: wanted him to go in and do it, and he 312 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: was like, fuck that, that's not gonna happen. I'm guessing 313 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: since the politician had deep pockets, and since Mayor wasn't 314 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: going to be in his life anymore because he broke 315 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: up with her, she needed an alternative way to continue 316 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: gathering intel on him so she can continue coming up 317 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: with new and clever ways to scam him or blackmail him, 318 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: or worse ruin his career and destroy his marriage. And 319 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: Mayor didn't just involve Sherry in her quest for knowledge 320 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: about the politician neither. She said, come on, let's go 321 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: for a drive. We literally drove to Pasadena. I said, oh, 322 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: maybe we're going to go to his house. I don't know, right. 323 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: Even before the politician dumped her, Mayor was always spying 324 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: on him, and her Pacific Islance coworker, Michelle, got taken 325 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: along on these surveillance expeditions. More than once. We were 326 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: a parked in front of well not in front, like 327 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: across from his house, watching his house. So I said, 328 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: why don't we just come in? Because she said she 329 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: has a key to the house. That's what she said, right, 330 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: And I have no reason not to believe her. I've 331 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: met him, and you know, I know that they're going out. 332 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: And she said, no, I can't do that because supposedly 333 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: the sun was home. So we camped out outside. I 334 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: don't know what we're waiting for. Though you never saw him. 335 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I never saw him come out of the house. No. 336 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: I went with her twice, just camping out of outside 337 00:20:48,160 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: of the house. And I don't understand why. In Mayor's 338 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: apparent desperation to get the politician back into her life 339 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: after he dumps her, she turns to an unusual place 340 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: for help. Mayor practiced witchcraft, yes and you witnessed that 341 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Mayor's psychic client and one time friend, Michelle Thompson DaCosta, 342 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: the one whose name Mayor allegedly used, along with her 343 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: social Security number to apply for credit card and charge up, 344 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: saw a side of Mayor that very few people did 345 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: during their brief and tumultuous friendship. What did you see? 346 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: What did you witness? Okay, so yeah, Mary loves to 347 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: do witchcraft with me. I hated to kind of be 348 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: a part of her witchcraft because she's so negative and 349 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if you believe any sort of 350 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: spiritual world or any of that, you know, what you 351 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: put out you get back, right, And so honestly, I 352 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: would just sit there. But when she would try to 353 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: work on things that were positive, I would definitely be 354 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: a part of that. But she would do love spells, 355 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: she would do binding spells. She would do binding spells 356 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: on the politician. So like a lot of times, after 357 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: her day's worth of work, when she would do things 358 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: for clients, that's when she would do her work. So 359 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: before we would have our wine for the night or whatever, 360 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: she would do her witchcraft for her clients because you 361 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: could pay for that if you paid her to cast spells. 362 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: They did her casting the spell. So she used a 363 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: lot of chicken wings. Did you hear about that? The 364 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: chicken wings. She used a lot of chicken wings. She 365 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: would tie the chicken wings. She would use a lot 366 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: of dragons blood, and then she would do I don't remember, 367 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: but you're still in the same complex, right. If you 368 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: go out to that tree in the middle, you will 369 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: find a ship ton of chicken wings. She would throw 370 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: chicken wings. No, she would dig up and she would 371 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: bury the chicken wings and they would be tied and 372 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: use dragon blood on them. And so dragon blood is 373 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: like a oil, so it's not actually dragons blood clear like, 374 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: but it's an oil. And so she would use it, 375 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and she would come up with her own stuff. I 376 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: believe I've never seen this stuff anywhere else, but that's 377 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: where she would bury them. If you go out to 378 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: that tree, the bones might still be there. And she 379 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: would do it a lot. So she would go to 380 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: food for lesson, buy like a big pack of chicken, 381 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: and we would go to like Bultanicus and go by 382 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: like the red candles, penis shaped candles. And you can 383 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: do a spell and carve a man's name for a 384 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: woman into that, and she would do that stuff for 385 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: some of her clients, so I saw her do it. 386 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: Definitely a lot of that her binding spells. I don't 387 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: know if those work in terms of binding a man 388 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: to a woman or whatever. But chicken wings were like 389 00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: her number one. Penis candles are like number two. But 390 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: all the chicken wings and all the penis candles that 391 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Mayor used to cast binding spells for her and the 392 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: politician to get back together didn't work. In the end. 393 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: The politician didn't leave Mayor because she scammed him. He 394 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: didn't even know she scammed him until I told him. 395 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: The politician left Mayor for the same reason a lot 396 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: of men jettison relationships. He just wasn't attracted to her anymore. 397 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: His last email to her, I'm sure must have cut 398 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: like a knife and wounded her deeply. I cringed when 399 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: I first read it. He basically says, the last time 400 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: we fucked, I had to use viagra, Like, I'm not 401 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: attracted to you anymore. But that's because she kept getting crazy. Yeah, 402 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: she was a turn off. And that's how honestly, that's 403 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: what it was like for our friendship, Because at the end, 404 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I was like I'm so tired of you being a 405 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: psycho bitch. It's exhausting. Hearing Michelle talk about Mayor being 406 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: a psycho bitch is kind of weird, as I never 407 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: saw that side of her. To me, Mayor was always 408 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: so kind and friendly and giving, and that's why I 409 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: liked her. That's why I loved her. I know now 410 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: that Mayor had a completely different personality for every victim 411 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: she scammed. This is the thing. We all rationalize things 412 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: in our head, whether they're right or wrong. We all 413 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: have our own thought process. At this point, I'm almost 414 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: a year into my investigation. Police haven't filed any charges, 415 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: but my blog is still active and every time I 416 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: find a new victim, I post a new update, and 417 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: more victims get in touch with me. One day, I 418 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: get a call from one of Mayor's childhood friends, who 419 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: knew her as Mary Anne Elizabeth Andel and Bangor Maine 420 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: back in the late nineties seventies. It's so bizarre. I 421 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: knew her in a junior hut when I met her. 422 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: How old were you at that point? All Jenn Westwood 423 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: spends a handful of years living close by a pre 424 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: adolescent Mayor Smith. We started shinging out in when we 425 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: got to high school because I moved to the other 426 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: side of town up that really matters, so I wasn't 427 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: able to like watch to your house anymore or whatever. 428 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Something interesting you mentioned in your email to me was 429 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: that you read about all her her car artistry, and 430 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: you said, you're not surprised based on the stuff you 431 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: guys used to talk about or she used to talk about. Well, 432 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: the Austen was is that we went to I wo 433 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: to her house. I played in the neighborhood with her, 434 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: and then I went to her house. She told me 435 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: which one was the house, but then there was one 436 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: house that went to it and we went in, and 437 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: I thought this was odd. She had me go. She 438 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: showed me her sister's room and it was a great, 439 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: big bedroom and I was like, wow, this is you know, 440 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: Christie room, you know. And her sister's name was Jenny, 441 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: she said, and it was she had this crap on 442 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: the wall, but that j E n n us on it, 443 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: and he wanted me to put on. She's like, here, 444 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: put my sister's close up and pose underneath the sign 445 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: and old pretended Jona, what and how old were you 446 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: at this point? Do you remember, roughly twelve years and 447 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: I was like, I thought that was kind of odd. 448 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: I actually have the picture somewhere. Oh my god, I 449 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: hope you can find stay and I remember to think 450 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: you get the time, you know, I mean, I said, 451 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I was really uncomfortable and I thought it was weird, like, 452 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: why would she want me to pose in your sister's 453 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: room and call it my room? How certain are you 454 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: that was in fact her own? Well? You know now 455 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think that maybe it wasn't, because I 456 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: remember we went in, nobody was home. There was some 457 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: kids in the house. We didn't know who they were, 458 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: so I just thought they were friends of her brother 459 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: and sisters. Yeah, I think that was one of one 460 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: of her earlier scamps, that she lived in the big house. 461 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: It seemed odd to me the whole experience, but I 462 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: didn't really know why, you know, back then. But putting 463 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: it together now, that probably wasn't even her house. Yeah 464 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: I don't think it was. Oh, I mean, it's just 465 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: so bizarre. Maybe she was, you know, honing her craft 466 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: from way back then exactly exactly, And at first I 467 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: just thought maybe she's evil, But now talking to you, 468 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like is it some kind of mental psychosis 469 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: or something, because for a twelve year old to be 470 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: engaging in this kind of stuff is crazy. What was 471 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: the purpose of leaving you to believe that was her house? 472 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: Did she want something from you? Did she give you 473 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: anything or ask you for anything? Ever? No? No, I think, well, 474 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: it sounds like, of course I haven't been in touch 475 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: with her, and think it sounds like she obviously had 476 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: had some sort of issues with you, like maybe not 477 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: like she wants to be wealthy. She wants people to 478 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: think she's wealthy, so maybe she wanted me to think 479 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: she was. It appears that even at twelve years old, 480 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: Mayor is practicing her manipulation skills. We'll talk again soon. 481 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: If anything else comes to you, to email me or 482 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: text me or call me. Let me now. Okay, sounds good, 483 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I have a great night you two. 484 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: In the days and weeks after talking to Mayor's childhood friend, Jen, 485 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: my blog continues to unearth more and more of Mayor's 486 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: victims from all over the country. A couple of New 487 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: York real estate investors contact me, saying Mayor scam them 488 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: out of sixty thou dollars by tricking them into believing 489 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: her daughter needed emergency surgery. We thought she died without it, 490 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: and we wired the cash immediately. A woman in Tennessee 491 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: contacts me saying Mayor tricked her boss out of thousands 492 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: using a fraudulent business she started there called Celtic Catering. 493 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: She disappeared right after she got the money. I had 494 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: no idea where she was hiding until I found your blog. 495 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: I learned Mayor also tricked to West Palm Beach housewife 496 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: out of a hundred and fifty thousand dollars using a 497 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: psychic scam. My husband wanted to divorce me over it. 498 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: Even my own landlord informs me that Mayor tricked them 499 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: out of paying rent for five months by saying she 500 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: had cancer and was in the hospital getting chemo. Who 501 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: lies about having cancer, Mayor, of course, and it was 502 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: hardly the first time she was battling cancer, and her 503 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: cancer had come back, and that she thought it was 504 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: in remission. She was in the hospital. That's why I 505 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: couldn't reach her for a couple of days. Test catch 506 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: A Tory, the founder and CEO of Global Women's Empowerment Network, 507 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: was concerned for her ailing friend Mayor and wanted to 508 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: help in any way she could. And I said, my gosh, 509 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: what hospital? She said in Pasadena. She didn't name the hospital, 510 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: she just said in Pasadena. And I said, well, I 511 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: had the afternoon off. Can I bring you some magazines, 512 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: some ice cream, some food that you might want to 513 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: have because the food is horrible there? No, no, no, no, no, 514 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: she yelled at me. She started a bite at me. No, no, 515 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to be released today. And I said, okay. 516 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: So I just kind of left it alone, and then 517 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I called a couple of days later to check in, 518 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: or the next day to check in. She said, why 519 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: do you keep calling me? I'm like, okay, no, just 520 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: so she tells you she has cancer, she's in the hospital, 521 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: and then she's shouting at you, why do you keep 522 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: calling me? Looking back, Mayor was probably upset with tests 523 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: because if Tess had gone to the hospital, the jig 524 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: would have been up. She didn't have cancer. Yeah, but 525 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: she did have a cancer story, and it was one 526 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: of a hundred stories Mayor convincingly told to scam people 527 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, in other cities, in other states, indeed, 528 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: than in other countries. Hello, I'm trying to reach it. 529 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: Mr Jonathan Walton. I got a call from a detective 530 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: in Northern Ireland found my blog. You've been looking for 531 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: Marian Smith for ten years. She lived in Northern Ireland. 532 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: I had no idea. I thought the whole Irish thing 533 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: was a lie tenure. That's a long time to be 534 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: looking for someone. So she must have really like did 535 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: some damage. Oh she did. She's left a trail of 536 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: devastation in the ruined many lights. Could Mayor Smith be 537 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: Irish after all? Next time on Queen of the Con. 538 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: There was a Christmas when my kids were young. We're 539 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: living in Belfast. Mayor Smith uses her own daughter in 540 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: multiple scams. I used to afforde signatures on papers and 541 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: pisces off the wrong kind of people. Open the door 542 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: and here's for Irish speaking mobsters standing with automatic as 543 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: all rifles. Marian. 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