WEBVTT - S6 Part 1 | Plastic Pipelines | Ep 1: Don't Mess with Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Early in my career, I did a ton of reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on the plastic problem, why there was so much of it,

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<v Speaker 1>how the industry operated, the pr guys who created fake

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<v Speaker 1>front groups for plastic manufacturers. It was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff the oil and gas guys had done,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense because it was mostly the same companies

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<v Speaker 1>making plastic. But at a certain point I shifted my

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<v Speaker 1>focus away from plastic, partly because it seemed like a

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<v Speaker 1>problem that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was being solved.

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<v Speaker 1>The public was aware of the problem, there were various

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<v Speaker 1>alternatives to plastic being embraced. Even consumer behavior was changing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now to California, where a new law will ban single

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<v Speaker 1>use plastic bags at grocery and convenience stores. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>buying a plastic tube of toothpaste then throwing it away

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<v Speaker 1>or recycling it, maybe you can now buy toothpaste tablets

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<v Speaker 1>that come in this little compostable paper packets.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called the Great Pacific Garbage Patch.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that in the Pacific Ocean contains plastic waste

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<v Speaker 4>twice the size of Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's big.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a few years ago I started to see

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<v Speaker 1>more and more plastic everywhere, restaurants, stores, my kids' school,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wondered what had happened to shift the course

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<v Speaker 1>of things so dramatically. Had I missed some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>policy change, had some celebrity said something pro plastic? But

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<v Speaker 1>it also jumped out of me because it was so

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<v Speaker 1>similar to what had happened on climate change during the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>high public awareness momentum toward change, and then boom, this

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<v Speaker 1>complete shift of course. So I started looking into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first place I looked was this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>cartoonishly evil PR guy who had been the head of

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<v Speaker 1>all of these pro plastic campaigns when I'd looked into

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<v Speaker 1>the issue before. His name was Rick Berman. His nickname

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<v Speaker 1>is doctor Evil, and I'm not joking. He's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who ran a ton of the PR campaigns for Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Morris back in the day. The lead character in the

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<v Speaker 1>movie Thank You for Smoking is based on him. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have an MD or law degree.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a bachelor's and kicking button taking names.

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<v Speaker 1>I get paid to talk.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you talk about?

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<v Speaker 3>I speak on behalf of cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 2>My mommy cigarettes kill?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Is your mommy a doctor?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Well she doesn't exactly sound like a credible expert, now

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<v Speaker 2>does she.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Berman has also targeted Mothers against Drunk Driving for

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol clients, and the Humane Society for beef clients.

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<v Speaker 5>Mysteres, how many alcohol related does a year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what two hundred and seventy a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Tragedy. I front an organization that killed him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>had followed Berman a lot when I was reporting on

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<v Speaker 1>plastic because he was working for all the plastic bag

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers and the food and beverage guys who all wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to fight against plastic bag bands. Burman was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>behind my all time favorite fake grassroots group, the Save

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<v Speaker 1>the Plastic Bag Coalition. They claimed to be a group

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<v Speaker 1>of concerned citizens who loved plastic bags, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 1>was actually one guy paid by Rick Bourban. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I dove back in in twenty fourteen, the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>I did was google Rick Berman, and I found a

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times story October thirtieth, twenty fourteen, about how

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<v Speaker 1>Berman was suddenly very involved with natural gas companies and

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<v Speaker 1>fracking hard nosed advice from veteran lobbyist win ugly or

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<v Speaker 1>lose pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>A speech he'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Given in Colorado for a group of natural gas companies

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<v Speaker 1>called the West Start Energy Alliance had been leaked here's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit from it.

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<v Speaker 5>And again we've had a lot of ads on this thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You get in people's mind a tie, they don't know

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<v Speaker 5>who's right, and you win all ties.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically ensures the status quote.

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<v Speaker 3>People are not prepared.

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<v Speaker 6>To get aggressive in moving whus layers together. So I'll

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<v Speaker 6>take a tie any day if I'm trying to deserve

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<v Speaker 6>the status quote.

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<v Speaker 1>A tie is a win because that basically ensures the

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<v Speaker 1>status quo. Wow, But also what was Bourban doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>He had worked with every other industry before, tobacco, alcohol, meat, chemicals,

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<v Speaker 1>but weirdly he had never worked for oil and gas,

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<v Speaker 1>and now here he was in one of the hubs

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<v Speaker 1>of the fracking boom. Quick orientation on that front. Fracking

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<v Speaker 1>is slang for hydraulic fracturing. It's a drilling process where

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<v Speaker 1>you basically blast water and chemicals into shale rock at

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<v Speaker 1>really high pressure, busting open the rocks and pumping out

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<v Speaker 1>the gas or oil that's hiding inside of them. Around

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, a few independent companies figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to do fracking economically, and the price of oil

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<v Speaker 1>and gas made it smart to pursue. That kicked off

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<v Speaker 1>a fracking boom. But around twenty ten, people in communities

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<v Speaker 1>where fracking was happening had started to talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>it was ruining their water, in some cases making it flammable,

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<v Speaker 1>a thing you don't really want your water to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Then stories started to come out about the radioactive waste

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<v Speaker 1>being generated by fracking, Yes, radioactive waste. Fracking had some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad press going into that conference Berman was at

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen. Neighbors in that Colorado town are being

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<v Speaker 1>in the heat as well.

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<v Speaker 6>The groundwater there is apparently contaminated by natural gas.

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<v Speaker 7>A Colorado homeowners living in fear because their tap water

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<v Speaker 7>is flammable.

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<v Speaker 8>And the brine that these truckers are hauling radium can

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<v Speaker 8>be as high as twenty eighty five hundred. These levels

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<v Speaker 8>are extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>So it made sense that the industry would go looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a hitman like Berman to save it. At the

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<v Speaker 1>Western Energy Alliance conference, Berman was presenting on his latest campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Green Radicals, an attempt to discredit the top three

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<v Speaker 1>critics of fracking at the time SERRA Club, NRDC, and

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<v Speaker 1>Food and Water Watch. Here's Berman's colleague Jack Hubbard explaining,

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<v Speaker 1>more so, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Thought, how are we going to kick off this campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>Take the typical Bourbon and Company model in undermining.

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<v Speaker 9>These folks credibility and diminish their moral authority.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, Yes, the typical Berman and Company model of undermining

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<v Speaker 1>people's credibility and diminishing their moral authority. Berman's fur a

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<v Speaker 1>into the natural gas world got me wondering if fracking

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<v Speaker 1>and gas were linked to the sudden resurgence of plastic

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<v Speaker 1>And then over the next couple of years, I started

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<v Speaker 1>to hear more about another problem with fracking, a natural

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<v Speaker 1>gas glut. The story was that fracking companies had been

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<v Speaker 1>so successful at getting gas out of shale rock that

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<v Speaker 1>they were just kind of swimming in this stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>It was very good at producing gas, but terrible at

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<v Speaker 10>producing profits.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Clark Williams Dairy, an analyst with the Institute

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<v Speaker 1>for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis AIFA.

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<v Speaker 10>And that's something that I think has actually been emblematic

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<v Speaker 10>the shale industry as a whole, that it's an industry

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<v Speaker 10>that's been phenomenally successful at producing oil and gas, but

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<v Speaker 10>it's been terrible at producing cash.

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<v Speaker 1>The fracking industry actually never produced profits, but it did

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<v Speaker 1>produce a lot of gas, and it needed to find

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<v Speaker 1>a market for it. Here's Kingsmill Bond, an analyst with

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<v Speaker 1>the nonprofit Carbon Tracker.

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<v Speaker 5>With the fracking of gas a lot of ethane and propane,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're considerably cheaper as a feedstock than oil. And

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<v Speaker 5>all these companies had the bright day, well, let's turn

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<v Speaker 5>this ethane into plastic, and then we can undercut our

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<v Speaker 5>competitors and we can make very high superprofits. That's basically

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<v Speaker 5>was the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so now it was starting to make some sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few years after public awareness of the plastic

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<v Speaker 1>problem was peaking, fossil fuel companies realized if they could

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<v Speaker 1>make plastic with the byproducts of fracking instead of with oil,

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<v Speaker 1>they could solve the natural gas clout problem and supercharge

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<v Speaker 1>their petro chemical profits. Again, remember, most of the companies

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<v Speaker 1>making plastic or providing the building blocks of plastic are

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<v Speaker 1>oil and gas companies. And here's where we get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the involvement of Berman and his cronies. Thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>some very clever messaging over the years, the general public

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<v Speaker 1>has largely forgotten that plastic is made out of fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you look at their websites, when you look

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<v Speaker 4>at their communication stuff and business. They're very clear that

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<v Speaker 4>they are all about plastics, and so this is an

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<v Speaker 4>industry has been very effective at on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 4>promoting the use of plastic residence across ever wider ranges

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<v Speaker 4>of product streams and an evermore tes around the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and on the other hand, keeping their own role in

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<v Speaker 4>these processes largely invisible from the public.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Carol Muffett, President and CEO of the nonprofit

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<v Speaker 1>Center for International Environmental Law.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the plub public when they think about who

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<v Speaker 4>produces plastic, they think about Procter and Gamble, they think

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<v Speaker 4>about Starbucks, they think about Amazon. All those are completely legitimate,

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<v Speaker 4>But ultimately, at the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the molecules going into that plastic are all coming from

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<v Speaker 4>a handful of companies, and they have names like Exxon

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<v Speaker 4>and Chevron Shell.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes those oil and gas companies own and operate the

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<v Speaker 1>petrochemical facilities making plastic two, but they don't really advertise it.

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<v Speaker 1>Exon's big plastic factory in Louisiana, it's just called the

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<v Speaker 1>Baton Rouge Plastics Company. Even when they're not making the

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<v Speaker 1>plastics themselves. The connection is pretty direct between the oil

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<v Speaker 1>and gas industry and plastic. In twenty eleven, construction of

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<v Speaker 1>a new pipeline began. It would run from the eagle

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<v Speaker 1>Ford Shale, one of the first big fracking plays in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>to a petrochemical plant on the Gulf in Callum County.

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<v Speaker 1>That pipeline was fully operational by early twenty thirteen, supplying

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<v Speaker 1>a plant owned by a little known Taiwanese company called Formosa.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Amy Westervelt. Welcome to a new season of Drilled

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<v Speaker 1>the Bridge to Nowhere. We're tackling the natural gas industry

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and we're doing something a little different. Instead

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<v Speaker 1>of telling you one story, over the course of several episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you a few different stories about

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<v Speaker 1>the natural gas industry. First up, plastic pipelines. That pipeline

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<v Speaker 1>from the eagle Ford Shale to the foremost of plastics plant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not alone. There's a very very direct pipeline direct

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<v Speaker 1>connection between these two industries. Over the next few episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to look at how the fracking boom led

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<v Speaker 1>to a plastics boom through the story of Formost of

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<v Speaker 1>plastics on the Gulf Coast. Coming up right after this

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<v Speaker 1>quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent my whole life around the water.

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<v Speaker 9>I've been shrimpen since I was eight years old, and

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<v Speaker 9>even when I was smaller, when I was like four

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<v Speaker 9>and five years old, my dad would come in from

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<v Speaker 9>shrimp and all of us kids would go to the bay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can remember going out in.

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<v Speaker 9>The bay and when you leave her early, you got

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<v Speaker 9>the spoon bills, you know, these pink birds flying, they

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<v Speaker 9>coming about the marshes, and you're going past the reefs

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<v Speaker 9>and you're heading out into the bay, and it was,

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<v Speaker 9>it was, It was beautiful, and it always kept that magic.

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<v Speaker 9>And I think if I gave up on the bay,

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<v Speaker 9>I would be given up on the best part of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet Diane Wilson. She's a fourth generation shrimp boat captain

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<v Speaker 1>in Point Comfort, Texas. That was a clip of her

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<v Speaker 1>from the documentary Texas Gold, but I got the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to speak with her too.

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<v Speaker 6>For a while, I ran a shrimp house, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think I handled about fifteen shrimp boats. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>a it's an old tin building and it's right at

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<v Speaker 6>the dock.

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<v Speaker 1>That shrimp house. She ran the little tin building on

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<v Speaker 1>the dock. It basically processes all the shrimp for the

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<v Speaker 1>shrimpers in the area, so they go out fishing, come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and Diane would sort of take it.

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<v Speaker 6>From there, so I know all the comings and goings

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<v Speaker 6>of those shrimpers. And one day I had a shripper

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<v Speaker 6>come in. And this shripper, he was a real nice

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<v Speaker 6>looking guy, and he had about three types of cancers,

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<v Speaker 6>and he had these lumps all over they were like

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<v Speaker 6>tennis falls up and down his arm. And anyway, he

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<v Speaker 6>threw this magazine at me and he wanted me to

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<v Speaker 6>read it. And it was the first time the toxic

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<v Speaker 6>release inventory ever came out. And our little county, Calsing County,

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<v Speaker 6>I bet we didn't have twelve thousand people in this county.

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<v Speaker 6>We were number one in the nation for toxic disposal.

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<v Speaker 6>We had half the ways generated in Texas was right here.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's like wow, it blew my mind, it really did.

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<v Speaker 1>Diane was shocked and worried about her little community. She

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<v Speaker 1>describes herself as a quote genuine introvert.

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<v Speaker 3>I am one of these people that doesn't like to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like to be around crowds. I can remember

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a child adding under a bed to

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<v Speaker 3>get away from people. It was probably a reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I was so good on the bay because there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of solitude out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But this seemed like something the community should really be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I saw that article, I did something totally

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<v Speaker 3>out of character. I walked down to city Hall and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I want to have a meeting about this information.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently there's this little room at city hall in

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<v Speaker 1>Diane's town and they let people use it for meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>So she went in and booked that room.

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<v Speaker 6>But then I had the city secretary. She come down

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<v Speaker 6>there and she said, Dian you you just got to

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<v Speaker 6>not do this. And I'm like, uh, well, I'll do

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<v Speaker 6>it in the elementary in the cafeteria and she said, no, Diane,

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<v Speaker 6>you've got You've got to stop it completely. You can't

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<v Speaker 6>do this. There's red flags. There's red flags, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>what red flag?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan didn't understand what the problem was. But pretty soon

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just the secretary, it was local politicians and

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<v Speaker 1>businessmen too.

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<v Speaker 3>By President, who I had never talked to in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>come out on the dock and he said, Diane, are

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<v Speaker 3>you trying to start a mid Gilani group to roast

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<v Speaker 3>industry of life economic development? Called my brother, and they

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<v Speaker 3>told them to make me shut up and not have

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<v Speaker 3>this meeting. They were trying everything to shut me up

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<v Speaker 3>on just having a meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Dane thought this was all really weird. She had assumed

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<v Speaker 1>the waste they were talking about in that toxic inventory

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of old news. It was stuff that had

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<v Speaker 1>been dumped back when there was a big Alcoa plant

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<v Speaker 1>in the area, and that was part of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was also new waste and a big industrial plant

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<v Speaker 1>in town that was planning a major expansion.

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<v Speaker 6>It was the biggest expansion in Texas history, and the

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<v Speaker 6>biggest in the United States in ten years. And I

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<v Speaker 6>mean the governor, the senators, the you name it, the

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<v Speaker 6>even Silbraham who was running for president. Everybody was pushing.

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<v Speaker 6>They were going to give promost every single thing they wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Formosa, a Taiwanese petrochemical company, had been in the area

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen eighty one, and now it was planning a

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<v Speaker 1>one point three billion dollar expansion.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone had in the mail sent me a letter and

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<v Speaker 6>in the letter was just these type simple words that,

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<v Speaker 6>miss Wilson, do you know this? And in it was

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<v Speaker 6>the uh it was you know it was a newspaper

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<v Speaker 6>clipping in the back. You know, it's on the back

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<v Speaker 6>pages of a newspaper and it had UH Promosa's uh

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<v Speaker 6>public notice for Promosa's air permits and UH and I'm like, hell,

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<v Speaker 6>this is something I can do for the first meeting

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<v Speaker 6>of this little group.

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<v Speaker 1>Diane's been fighting the company ever since, mostly with the

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<v Speaker 1>help of whistleblowers who worked at the foremosta plant.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no unions, there's no safety, and you will get

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<v Speaker 6>fired if you open your mouth. And they did not

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<v Speaker 6>trust uh TCQ, the state agency. They didn't trust EPA,

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<v Speaker 6>and they didn't definitely did not trust OSHA. They thought

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<v Speaker 6>that was nothing but a way to get them fired,

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<v Speaker 6>to tell a lot of anything. And so who was

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<v Speaker 6>on the bottom of the list. It was me, And

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<v Speaker 6>so they came to me, and that were I really

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<v Speaker 6>got the information.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety three, when Formosa expanded, it bought five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred residents out of their homes and took over the

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<v Speaker 1>town's school.

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<v Speaker 6>Formosa's has got all their houses, the school shut down,

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<v Speaker 6>there's no school. Formosa is using the school for a

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<v Speaker 6>training center now, so it's for Mosa's town.

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<v Speaker 1>But over a decade, Diane kept building her case often

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with Formosa workers out of town because they were

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<v Speaker 1>worried about getting fired or retaliation of some kind. They

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<v Speaker 1>told her about Formosa cutting corners, dumping chemicals and plastic

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<v Speaker 1>pellets into the ocean, burning off toxic chemicals through their smokestacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and generally not implementing appropriate safety measures. Diane spent three

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<v Speaker 1>years collecting plastic pellets that Formosa had dumped into the

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<v Speaker 1>bees and waterways around its Port Comfort facility.

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<v Speaker 6>I would get into kayak and go up and down

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<v Speaker 6>all skin of their outfalls, and sometimes that would take

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<v Speaker 6>me like five or six syres. I was all day long,

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<v Speaker 6>going up and down that singing kayak and taking all

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<v Speaker 6>these pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time when she was going out in her

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<v Speaker 1>kayak all day, Diane was in her late sixties, and

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen she took Formosa to court.

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<v Speaker 8>Just down the Gulf coast from Houston lies an enormous

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<v Speaker 8>plastics plant, one of the nation's biggest. It's been a

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<v Speaker 8>driving force in the local economy, and now it's expanding

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<v Speaker 8>with promises of new jobs and tax revenue. But a

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<v Speaker 8>handful of coastal residents are suing the plant, claiming it's

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<v Speaker 8>polluted the waters in their red for years.

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<v Speaker 1>After fighting the company for decades, in twenty nineteen, Diane

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<v Speaker 1>had a big win.

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<v Speaker 7>Last year, Formosa agreed to pay fifty million dollars to

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<v Speaker 7>settle a lawsuit in which it agreed to zero discharge

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<v Speaker 7>of pellets. A federal judge called Formosa a serial offender.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the largest settlement granted in a citizen lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>in US history.

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<v Speaker 6>And we got fifty million dollars for environmental projects, and

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<v Speaker 6>we put twenty million into a sustainable fishery co op

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<v Speaker 6>for the local fishermont.

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<v Speaker 1>But Diane isn't retiring her kayak just yet. Her group

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<v Speaker 1>is staying on top of Formosa to make sure it

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<v Speaker 1>complies with the court ruling. And she's been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>activists down the coast a bit in Louisiana. They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent Formosa from building a plant there. She's hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that which he's learned over the past thirty years might

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<v Speaker 1>help them do the one thing she couldn't.

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<v Speaker 6>My only regret, my only regret is that I did

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<v Speaker 6>not try hard enough to keep them out. Is they

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<v Speaker 6>need to try everything to keep them up. They do

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<v Speaker 6>not want Formosa in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll bring you that story next time next week on Drilled.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be too much hottick in the air just

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it. We will not live.

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<v Speaker 9>That's where I'm fighting for my life and the life

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<v Speaker 9>of my community.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the single largest proposed source that we've been tracking

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<v Speaker 1>of greenhouse gas emissions in the country.

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<v Speaker 11>Certainly, I don't think there's any way you can divorce

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<v Speaker 11>what's happening now in terms of the sighting of these

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<v Speaker 11>facilities and who's burying the biggest gardens from the history

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<v Speaker 11>of slavery and that in that area.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all.

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<v Speaker 11>There's a straight line connecting it all.

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