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Speaker 1: Breaking news here on FT, it's not surprising news. This

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Speaker 1: stuff never gets overturned, Jerkson Profar will in fact miss

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Speaker 1: the entire twenty twenty six season. Jeff Passen reporting about

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Speaker 1: this during the show, he said, after profiles appeal of

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Speaker 1: a positive ped test was resolved, he will serve a

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two game suspension for testing positive

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Speaker 1: a second time. He will be un ineligible for postseason play.

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Speaker 1: No surprise here, this stuff almost never works, he said. Resolved.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get more, probably not that much more,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, isn't it denied? Resolved?

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Speaker 2: Hey, he did the appeal, he got caught.

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Speaker 3: He did it again, he got caught. What else do

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Speaker 3: we need to say? He did it cool?

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Speaker 2: Like not cool?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: I don't even understand why we're he's out. We already

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Speaker 3: knew he was going to be suspended for the year

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Speaker 3: his appeal failed. Yes, okay, you did it, you got caught.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I think the stuff you's getting caught for, krat Sorry,

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Speaker 1: are things that are tough to dispute. You know, there

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Speaker 1: are some cases you've brought them up in the past

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Speaker 1: where there is some gray line, there's some questionable issues

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go down that road again, but

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Speaker 1: you can just google someone like Chris Colobello. This is

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Speaker 1: just Hey, this dude was you know what, was it

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Speaker 1: either the first time or the second time using the

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Speaker 1: the stuff that you mask that Manny Ramirez was using.

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Speaker 1: There's really no reason why you'd be taking that in

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Speaker 1: any other world in life. So I'm sure they looked

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Speaker 1: there like, oh, wait, you tested positive for this and

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Speaker 1: then whatever the other one was called this like testosterone

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Speaker 1: or something. They're like, yeah, there's one reason for that.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to pull like a oh.

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Speaker 5: Oops, oops, I took some I took some estrogen to

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Speaker 5: just take some estrogen. No, it's a masking agent for

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Speaker 5: what you were taking, like you got it, got away

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Speaker 5: with it. To me, obviously, this is accusatory of me.

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Speaker 5: But he got the contract and he's gonna get about

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Speaker 5: half of that contract because essentially he missed half a

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Speaker 5: year last year, full year this year. So he got

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Speaker 5: paid half a year last year and he'll get paid

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Speaker 5: one more year next year. You know, it's interesting to

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Speaker 5: see that the process of missing one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 5: two games, or actually the process of missing eighty games

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Speaker 5: and the fear of missing one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 5: games wasn't enough.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't enough, And that is that.

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Speaker 5: Is interesting to me, how like people that make decisions

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Speaker 5: like that think differently than me. Like I remember when

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Speaker 5: it was first in the minor leagues and it was

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Speaker 5: fifteen games, and I was like, oh my gosh, what

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Speaker 5: if somebody misses fifteen games? Now I look like an

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Speaker 5: idiot for thinking that. But this dude was like, no way,

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Speaker 5: they'll catch me again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ken just cheated about this too. They did catch

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Speaker 1: him again. Ken just tweeted about this too and said

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Speaker 1: his appeal did not result in a reduction of his penalty.

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Speaker 1: Whoever sending out.

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Speaker 3: The the rules, dude, you cheated, You got caught your

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Speaker 3: second time.

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Speaker 2: It's the rules of the rules.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's what's the appeal for trying to get

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Speaker 3: a cut to one hundred games?

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Speaker 1: I mean, they don't really do that.

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Speaker 2: The rules are the rules.

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Speaker 3: And but by the way, he's still getting like twenty

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Speaker 3: something million dollars out of this contract. I mean it's

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Speaker 3: like twenty he's still getting over twenty million dollars out

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Speaker 3: of this contract.

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Speaker 2: It's not like he lost all the money.

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Speaker 3: People are like, oh, you know, he cost Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: costs himself a lot of it, but he's still getting

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Speaker 3: over twenty something million and he's still getting a lot

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting though.

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Speaker 3: What's gonna be an interesting next year though, is how

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Speaker 3: did the Brave's welcome him back at that point.

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Speaker 4: I don't it's a good question they do. Really.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that if you're going to do that,

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Speaker 1: you should just do that now now. If you're not

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Speaker 1: some of the big boys there. We were just in

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Speaker 1: how will this be received? Like, let's just talk about

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Speaker 2: I don't think they can Scott.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they can right now because he has

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Speaker 3: to he has to serve a suspension, right, So they

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Speaker 3: have to keep him on the on the whatever list

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Speaker 3: for this year and then in the end of the

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Speaker 3: year they can do They can't.

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Speaker 2: They can't do it now.

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Speaker 3: Because they do it now, then one sixty two never

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Speaker 3: gets played out as part of a whatever, right. So

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Speaker 3: I think they have to keep I don't know that

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Speaker 3: for a fact, but I think they have to keep

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Speaker 3: him on the restricted list for the year even I mean,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't count against anything. He doesn't get paid, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't count as a roster spot, so it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 4: But that would be even better age.

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Speaker 5: I think if they cut him, if they cut him

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Speaker 5: now and he still has because he doesn't that technically

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Speaker 5: got cut. He doesn't have to serve his one sixty

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Speaker 5: two until he gets signed with another team, that would

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Speaker 5: be even better. But no, because then the Braves, if

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Speaker 5: they cut him today, the Braves would technically have to

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Speaker 5: pay him because he's not under contract under a team,

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Speaker 5: so he wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: Have to serve as one sixty two.

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Speaker 5: It is how I heard it, but I would love that,

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Speaker 5: like really, just grind it in there. Just it irritates

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Speaker 5: players when this happens, and then when it happens twice,

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Speaker 5: it really irritates I'm not even to say players, it

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Speaker 4: So there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he signed his deal for forty two million dollars.

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Speaker 1: And if he plays next year, if we have a

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Speaker 1: full season of games, no lockout, if we have a

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Speaker 1: clean run because he's gonna get tested every five seconds,

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Speaker 1: then he would make twenty one. So they'd save about

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Speaker 1: half and it's even a little more than half because

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Speaker 1: the Braves are in luxury tax lands this year, so

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Speaker 1: they end up saving in extra few million bucks this

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest, I don't know that he gets tested

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Speaker 5: more just because he's a two time offender.

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Speaker 4: I think you do, okay, because it's supposed to.

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Speaker 5: Be a random test, and unless they have an issue

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Speaker 5: then you then it's not as random. But supposedly it's

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Speaker 5: supposed to be a random test, but I do not

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Speaker 1: No, it is random, but I think what happens is

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Speaker 1: you get tested more frequently if you've tested positive in

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Speaker 1: the past. So don't worry. I've got my I know

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Speaker 1: this assistant assistant working on the case.

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Speaker 4: I know this.

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Speaker 3: The drug tester peoples have been at every camp I've

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Speaker 3: been at almost every day, so they're here every day, Yeah, somebody,

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Speaker 3: they're always here. Every every clubhouse I go to, there

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Speaker 3: is the CDT guy in there, two of them or

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Speaker 3: three of them waiting for people. So they are doing

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Speaker 3: the test. Definitely say that.

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Speaker 1: So in the Joint Drug Agreement with the League and

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Speaker 1: the players, it says a player test positive is subject

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Speaker 1: to mandatory follow up testing after that result. The Independent

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Speaker 1: Program Administrator sets the schedule, and those follow up tests

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Speaker 1: are in addition to the league's normal testing pool. So

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to see the specifics. But yeah, there definitely

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Speaker 1: is a little more that gets done once you are

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Speaker 2: Also, yeah, I'm just gonna ask this.

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Speaker 3: And I played with Profar, and I like Profar When

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Speaker 3: I played with him, he was a young kid, he

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Speaker 3: and smile and happy all that. I really did like

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Speaker 3: Profar when I played for him. But what kind of

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Speaker 3: person are you when you've already been caught once that

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Speaker 3: you do it again? Are you just an egomaniac and

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Speaker 3: you just say I have to do this, Like that's

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Speaker 3: my question is you know Kratz said, oh, got tested

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Speaker 3: once and it hurts his feelings as a player, But

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Speaker 3: you already got you already got popped once. So you

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Speaker 3: just believe that you're bigger than the testing and you

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Speaker 3: can beat the testing, and you just firmly believe that

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Speaker 3: whatever you're taking won't get fought. That tells me that

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Speaker 3: there's something going on, maybe in his brain that just

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Speaker 1: someone superpower from them cold turkey. It's difficult. So what

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Speaker 1: with other ways to mask that superpower and get away

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Speaker 1: with it. That is my guess. That's not how it

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Speaker 1: works for everyone. I'm sure there's people on there that

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Speaker 1: But generally, i've heard it is difficult for people that

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Speaker 1: are juicing to get off of the juicing. I've heard

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Speaker 1: that with many other former players who used to do

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Speaker 1: that because I'd ask the same question age I remember,

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Speaker 1: you'd be around someone who knows a player and you'd

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Speaker 1: be like, why why is that player still doing that,

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Speaker 1: especially if they got caught, and you're like, hey, some

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Speaker 1: guys can't get off of it, and some do, and

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Speaker 1: then they still are able to mask it. But in

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Speaker 1: this case, credit to the Joint Drug Agreement. That's what

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Speaker 1: it's here for. It is here to get rid of

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Speaker 1: or at least try to curb the cheating, and then

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Speaker 1: it is also here to set an example. Right, Hey,

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Speaker 1: People always push, they want more. I feel like that's

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Speaker 5: It's not gonna be nothing you do is going to

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Speaker 1: There are many questions in the chat, like do we

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Speaker 5: I know there's appeal. I know there is an appeal,

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Speaker 5: The appeal process went through. He sent it in what

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Speaker 5: We just don't hear about him. We do not hear

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was saying.

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Speaker 5: Right, it's scary for that player in that moment you

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Speaker 5: It's hard to see people go through that because it

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Speaker 1: Hey we're back. Not great news to start the day.

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Speaker 1: This broke just before we got going with the show.

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Speaker 1: Charge about Yeah, we're charging the mound. It's presented by

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Speaker 1: Fox One. Go get the app for baseball season, which

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Speaker 1: And do you really think that many more US pitchers

437
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Speaker 1: are going to raise their hand in mid July and

438
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, sure, I'll pitch my brains out in

439
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 1: mid July when I feel like I need a weak break.

440
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I think it's a terrible idea.

441
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 4: Honestly.

442
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: I think for the Olympics, sure, if you want to

443
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: have a short tournament, But there's so many things to

444
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 3: think about with this and what the implications could be. Well,

445
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: I'll use Tarret schoobl as an example, just because he's

446
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 3: kind of been the hob button topic of him pitching.

447
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: Him being a free agent, you think he's more or

448
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 3: less likely in July to pitch in a ten game

449
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 3: tournament when he's even closer it's a free agency than

450
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 3: he is at the beginning of the season. There's no

451
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: way I can't see Freddy Paruta, who didn't pitch because

452
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 3: he said he was a free agent at the end

453
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 3: of the year and he wants to get ready with

454
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: a new team. He gets to July and he's gonna

455
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: go throw two of his starts and risk that for

456
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Speaker 3: not for his team that he pays his salary. It's

457
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: coolinal listen, it's unbelievable as an unbelievable tournament. But I

458
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: love what Max Scherzer said when he said move it

459
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Speaker 3: back to now do it the last two weeks of

460
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 3: spring training, because my other problem I have you do

461
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: it during the regular season is what do you do

462
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 3: with all the players that aren't on a team, that

463
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: aren't playing in this tournament. Do you stop just say hey, guys,

464
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: you get two weeks off, congratulations. It also kills the

465
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: momentum for the All Star Game, which is a big

466
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 3: deal in MLB as we all know. And then if okay,

467
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: let's say all the stars going play in the WBC

468
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: and then the regular season continues, say they just say,

469
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 3: all right, well the stars are going, We're gonna keep

470
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Speaker 3: playing the regular season. Do you want pennant races decided

471
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: by guys that aren't your stars on your team? Do

472
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Speaker 3: you want that to be how you determine who gets

473
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Speaker 3: to win a World Series, I would think not. And

474
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Speaker 3: then also there's there's way more questions with it during

475
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: the season. I get the Olympics six teams, fine, boom

476
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: boom boom, knock it out real quick. But you can't

477
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 3: do a two week or was this two weeks? But

478
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: I'm over two week tournament. You just can't do it

479
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: in the middle of the season, plus travel, plus all

480
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: that stuff. It doesn't it's not feasible.

481
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

482
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: If you can do a four or five day tournament, yes,

483
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 3: but a fourteen day tournament, seven day, seventeen day tournament,

484
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: it's not realistic.

485
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Speaker 1: I think you'll get more players position players dropping out

486
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: if you do a mid season tournament too. Right right now,

487
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: most of them are in pretty good shape to be like, okay, yeah,

488
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm in for this. The reliever rules will be even crazier,

489
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. The one other point I do

490
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: want to make, because I liked what Max said on

491
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Speaker 1: the show yesterday AJA in terms of having guys more

492
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: ramped up. The reason they won't do it is krats,

493
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: can you give me the dollar signs again? Thank you?

494
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: March Madness starts today, so they conveniently had this thing

495
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: go right up until that starts, and you can try

496
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Speaker 1: and work around the schedule, but there's a lot of games,

497
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: so you would go up against that, and you want

498
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: to dominate the headlines. I'm kind of like, hey, I

499
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: think we've got in a good Spotcrats. Sometimes you don't

500
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: have to mess with a good thing. Just leave it

501
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: the way it was, and then you get a week

502
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: ish until the actual season starts. Guys go get acclimated

503
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: with their team and then and then you run. So

504
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: from a business standpoint, I just don't see them matching

505
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: up against a tournament that for three weeks really dominates headlines.

506
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to go up against March Madness.

507
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 5: I don't want to put the other Let's see how

508
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 5: many how many people participated. I think they said there

509
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 5: was two hundred big leaguers participated in the WBC all

510
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 5: throughout all the teams. I don't want to put the

511
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: other twenty five times seven seven hundred other big leaguers

512
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Speaker 5: at any risk of taking two weeks off or even

513
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 5: they said they could cut it down to ten days

514
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 5: because the wouldn't need the exhibition games blah blah blah.

515
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 5: And for Manford to say this, he obviously didn't travel

516
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 5: with Team Japan showy Tani Yakamoto Mori a Kami Yamamoto

517
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: over to Japan like they had to show Hayes essentially

518
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 5: missed the entire spring training. He's essentially played in one game,

519
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 5: two games, flew over to Japan, and they've been over

520
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: in Japan. Like it's a tougher schedule than just oh,

521
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 5: you just got to go to Houston, or Bryce Harper

522
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: and Kyle Schwarber and Brad Keller are all driving back

523
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: from Miami.

524
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Speaker 4: No, they're no, you can't have in the middle of

525
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 4: the season.

526
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 5: You're putting more players at risk of injuries, and I

527
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 5: think you'll get the same, if not less players that

528
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 5: would play in that.

529
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the part that I was confused about. They're like, oh, yeah,

530
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: we'll get more participation mid season. Really you sure about that?

531
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Speaker 2: Be injured?

532
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: Also, don't forget, don't forget more guys will be injured

533
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: already just from the regular season going on. Most guys

534
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: come into spring training feeling pretty good, right most and

535
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: then guys get hurt during the season. So you're also

536
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 3: gonna have guys that are injured during the season and

537
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: don't count. There's too many logistical nightmare. Yeah, like Krats said,

538
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: if you got a flight to Japan and play those

539
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: whole play games, really you're gonna have showy flight to

540
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: Japan for a week in the middle of the season.

541
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Speaker 2: He's not gonna want to do that, I'm sorry.

542
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 5: Or banged up dudes like, ah, yeah, you know I've

543
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 5: been playing. We just talked about during during the final game,

544
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: talked about William Contrere's he had a broken middle finger

545
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 5: that he was playing with for most of the season.

546
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 5: Oh hey, we'll let you go play into WBC. I

547
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 5: know you've got a broken middle finger. You've been playing

548
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 5: for us. We'll definitely let you go and play more,

549
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: play more games.

550
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Speaker 1: No chance.

551
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 5: Everybody plays through Day one and first game of the playoffs.

552
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 5: So the only time that you you feel one hundred

553
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 5: in a regular season.

554
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the last point here was about the

555
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: quality of baseball. Okay, like, guys are in a rhythm

556
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: and all of that, But did anyone have a problem

557
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: with the quality of baseball?

558
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: Like, watch the ball is pretty damn good. Game good.

559
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,239
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it wasn't the defense. There wasn't anything like that.

560
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: It was well played. Games all were almost close. They

561
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: were all almost close. There wasn't a ton of blowouts.

562
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 3: Even some of the games we thought would be blowouts weren't.

563
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: I mean it was a lot of close games, a

564
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: lot of good games.

565
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: No quality of baseball. That's just an excuse they want

566
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Speaker 2: to move.

567
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: It, right, there's some reasoning there. I only know a

568
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: smidge of it. Of course, they think, you know, they

569
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: can dominate the stage even more in the summer. But

570
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: like you already do you already have the games going on?

571
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: This is you now figured out a way every few

572
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: years to dominate ratings and headlines in March. But nothing's

573
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: happening spring training.

574
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing's happening. Nothing's happening now. They like you said,

575
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: March madness is starting this week. WBC's over. It's the

576
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: dog days of tanking in the NBA, right, there's no

577
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: NFL Hockey's in the dog days of trying to just

578
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 3: get them to the postseason. There was nothing happening. In honesty,

579
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: spring training is what it is. Yes, people tune in,

580
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: but it's not a regular season baseball game. That's why

581
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: the viewership was off the charts. That's why everybody was

582
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: talking about WBC. People that don't even know about baseball

583
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: are coming up to be talking about Man, I had

584
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: to watch that USA game. It was unbelievable, So why

585
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: do we want to put it again? It takes away

586
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: from the All Star Game too, because guys aren't gonna

587
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: want to go play in the All Star Game then

588
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: go play in the WBC.

589
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 2: No, like, no stop.

590
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe do you think there's something with you know,

591
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 5: they have these contracts, with all these spring training site

592
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: cities and everything. Do you think they're complaining. Do you

593
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: feel like they like, is there something else? Because really,

594
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: the only way you make a change after two incredibly

595
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 5: successful especially overseas, WBCs like these WBC's have been so

596
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: successful that you're like thinking about making a change, it

597
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 5: has to be something on the money side. Like you're

598
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: not bettering the health for players, You're not doing anything

599
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: like that.

600
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Speaker 4: So to me, on the money side, why would they

601
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: be thinking about that.

602
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: It's a great question and maybe someone else will have

603
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: an answer for us, but usually you're just looking at

604
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: ratings and the packages that they can sell. I don't also,

605
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they were awesome all of that stuff was great.

606
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can look again at the other leagues and go, oh,

607
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: look what the NBA and the NHL did where they're

608
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: changing how.

609
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: They do it.

610
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: NBA do, what did the NBA do? What has NBA done?

611
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: No one watches the ratings are down, no one's watching

612
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: the All Star Game.

613
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: And nobody cares about that year.

614
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: Somebody cares about the tournament. Nobody cares about the tournament.

615
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: That tournament they play, really, I mean, they have playing

616
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: games for the playoffs. That teams are like, hey, we

617
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: made the playoffs and they're out in one game, right,

618
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean after after twenty of the thirty teams make

619
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I mean all that, it's teams in

620
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: the NBA either tank or try, and there's no in between.

621
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: It's tank or try. And it's a salary cap league

622
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: that everyone says fixing parody.

623
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Speaker 5: Do like I do like the fact that they're talking

624
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,719
Speaker 5: about it too many times in baseball they're like, Nope,

625
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 5: there's no way we're visiting that. Oh wait, that could

626
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 5: have been a good idea. We're two years too late.

627
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 5: So I like that they're talking about it, but I

628
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 5: just don't I don't see it just make sure you

629
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 5: talk to the players like they're the ones that are

630
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: playing in the games.

631
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, you know what this is. It's bargaining.

632
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: It's a bargaining year. Guess what has to be collectively

633
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 3: bargained the World Baseball Classic. Everything they say, hey, so

634
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: if they want to move it or whatever, of course,

635
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: it's just another chip on the table. If you rob

636
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: anver can use and say hey, we'll take this away,

637
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: or we'll do this, or we'll do that.

638
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's all bargaining.

639
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating. Yeah, I'm all for evolving and coming

640
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: up with new ideas, but this was one where I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

641
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: it just happened. Just leave it. It worked out perfectly,

642
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: leave it alone. So yeah, maybe you guys are right everything.

643
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: A lot of times these are lawyers, the leagues run

644
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: by lawyers, and so often they're just saying things to

645
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: be calculated. Money. Bob Nightingale put out the money. Venezuela

646
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: gets a two and a half million dollar bonus and

647
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: a total payout of six point seventy five million dollars

648
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: for the tournament. He said half of the money goes

649
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: to each country's perspective Baseball Federation. The rest gets split

650
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: among the players and the staff, so it's kind of

651
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: like playoff shares. And then USA was already guaranteed four

652
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: point two five million dollars and they will not get

653
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Speaker 1: any additional money they didn't win, of course, So that's

654
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Speaker 1: what it looks like, he said, with the players and

655
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Speaker 1: staff members from the winning team splitting a total of

656
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: about three three five million. Talking about Venezuela, it will

657
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: provide each player about one hundred and twelve and a

658
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: half thousand dollars, and then the coaches and staff members

659
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: will be paid out of the federation's pool, so each

660
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: player getting about one hundred grand for the tournament. For

661
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: the young guys, hey, actually there's some guys on the

662
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: roster that aren't even big leaguers yet. That's a pretty

663
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: healthy check.

664
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Speaker 4: Yep.

665
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: Nice, So checking spring training.

666
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: I'm bad for two weeks work if you can get it,

667
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: or some of them not even two weeks, some of

668
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: them four what four games?

669
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a nice little cut. I'm sorry. That's nice, I.

670
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 5: Agree, especially better than the envelope that you used to get.

671
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 5: I don't think they get envelopes anymore. I think it's

672
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 5: direct deposit, which is really really boring. Used to get

673
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: an envelope every week, every Monday or Tuesday whenever you

674
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: started camp, and it would have anywhere from like nine

675
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: to fifty to eleven hundred dollars in it, and it's

676
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: just nice cash to have hanging around.

677
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: Well, one hundred and one hundred and.

678
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: Twelve thousand dollars is nice cash to be have hanging

679
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 5: around too.

680
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: That's right. And hey, they deserved it. Great, great tournament,

681
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Speaker 1: complete terms and conditions. Box one Streaming. Now, let us

687
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: go to an NFL writer. His name's Roto Pat so

688
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: he probably knows Paul D. Podesta from the Football Days, right,

689
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: And he said, it's absolutely stunning. It took this long

690
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: for someone to embrace this mindset, but it's absolutely correct.

691
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: The guy's name is Patrick Dherty and he posted a

692
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Paul D. Podesta note in an article. It says Deepodesta

693
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: wants the Rockies to view playing baseball at eight feet

694
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: above sea level as an advantage, not a hindrance. Everything

695
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: else should flow off that. He said, we need to

696
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: embrace this. This is who we are. I'm sure that

697
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: other teams looked at things that way, but still, Kratz.

698
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: There's a difference between saying we're going to take this

699
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and use it as an advantage, but then having it

700
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: be a disadvantage and acting like it's an advantage.

701
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 4: Right.

702
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that part is rocket science or brain science.

703
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to play your games in college for

704
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: an entire season. I remember dan o Dad, who's a

705
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: buddy of mine. They used to do all kinds of

706
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: tests and studies and things, and at the end of

707
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: the day they were like, stuff.

708
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: That's trash.

709
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 5: I'll be honest, that's trash. It's a trash narrative. If

710
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: you're that organization, like, you can't. I want you to

711
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: be honest to me with to me as a player,

712
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: but you also have to create an organizational philosophy. Have

713
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: I ever been there for an entire year, ten years, whatever, No,

714
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 5: But I love what Dipodesta said. I love the fact

715
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: that a guy who's now taking over the entire organization.

716
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 5: He's not going in the locker room one day and

717
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 5: being like, guys, you gotta change your narrative. You can't

718
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: do that. You have to take that narrative and completely

719
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 5: flush it out of the entire system. And the issue

720
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: with the Rockies is they've had the exact same guys

721
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: saying the exact same things, just in different in different

722
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 5: spot or different name tags on their desk. So yes,

723
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: I love that he says this. Are there some difficulties, Yes,

724
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: but let's say Recovery's the one I always hear. Oh,

725
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 5: pitchers don't recover too well, So what are we doing

726
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 5: about it? Don't stop like, oh, you know, you just

727
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 5: don't recover quite as well. Okay, Well, anybody injured just

728
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 5: has to leave Colorado and they have to go to

729
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 5: Arizona to heal up because it increases their healing strength

730
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: for a few days.

731
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: Then that's what you have to do.

732
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: But I love it if they can actually change this

733
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: narrative and take it as an advantage. Because they don't,

734
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 5: they're going to continue to squalor in the unsuccessful years

735
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 5: that they have right now, or that they have had recently.

736
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: But they've had winning in the past, so that's where

737
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: you have to lean on and make it an advantage.

738
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: Erry Cole pitched in a spring training game. Look at

739
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: him go one inning, ten pitches. He's not going to

740
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: be ready for the start of the season, not even

741
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: close to be exact, but it felt good. Velasidy was

742
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: in a good spot and it was against the Red

743
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: Sox and you know, no issues. That's step one there.

744
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: The return date for him is in May or June.

745
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it'll be like mid to late

746
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: May for Garrett. He's going to want to come back.

747
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: And the Yankees are missing a few guys to start

748
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: the year Rodin, although that should be maybe a few

749
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: weeks into the season. They're not getting Clark Schmidt back

750
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: until the second half. There's depth though, I mean they've

751
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: got Freed, They've got Schlitler, They've got Louise Heal, They've

752
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: got Warren, they've got Weathers. There's names, but Garrett Cole

753
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: is lurking, and that's a good thing for a Yankees

754
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: team that aj won ninety four games last year without

755
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: Garrett Cole. Gret Cole hasn't pitched since Game five of

756
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: the two twenty twenty four World Series. It's been a minute.

757
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll be fine. I think the Yankees.

758
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: One thing they did this offseason is they did get

759
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: some depth with the Weather's trade, and I think they've

760
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. They're just waiting for Garrett

761
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 3: Cole to come back. They're waiting for Rodin to come back.

762
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: And when that rotation is together, it's a pretty darn

763
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: good rotation. If you go free to ro Don Cole,

764
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 3: Heel Schlittler, Clark Schmid, you know, Weathers, wherever the bounce

765
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: these guys around, it's a pretty solid rotation for any

766
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 3: Any team would be happy with that rotation.

767
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 4: I'll say that.

768
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just hope they don't get behind in the

769
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 5: beginning of the season here where they sit, you know,

770
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: first month. Okay, now you get Rodin back, maybe the

771
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: third time through the rotation, because with off days you

772
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: can kind of you can you can be fine with

773
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 5: not having that guy. Then where does will Warren go?

774
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: Who's how's the health of Weathers gonna be?

775
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: To me?

776
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: I think Weathers was the perfect pickup based on the

777
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 5: fact that they'll most likely get Clark Schmidt back, most

778
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: likely get Garrett Cole, back most like and getting Rodin

779
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: back sooner than that, like kind of in waves because

780
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 5: I was kind of like they're a little.

781
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 4: Short to begin the year.

782
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: Maybe they need to get somebody and get a big

783
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 5: free agent, and I think that trade has a lot

784
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: of high upside. And you hope for Weather's sake, you

785
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: know he's ready to go right out the jump here.

786
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Yep, for Cole, it doesn't hurt to see out of

787
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: the ten pitches, six or fastballs he topped out at

788
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: ninety eight point seven. The thing I'll say aja is

789
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: when a guy goes through surgery. It's been a year

790
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: and a week since he had the surgery back in

791
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty five, you want to see him

792
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: come back and throwing just as are close to just

793
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: as hard as he usually does. Sometimes the control takes

794
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of time to come back. Maybe I'm

795
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: a little less concerned about Garrett Cole since he's really

796
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: good in that department, but also he's not a young

797
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: pup anymore, So you just want to see that the

798
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: recovery looks good and he's going to be a new man,

799
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: And it looks like at least the first step of

800
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: many was very successful for him.

801
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: Yes, and also we had Shane Biebron and he said

802
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: it two years. He said that he's been told that

803
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: it takes two years. He's in a second year and

804
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: so he hopes when he comes back that he is

805
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: fully go because I mean, Gark Cole usually it's at

806
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: least about eighteen months. Garret Cole's just going to be

807
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: back in a little over years. So we'll see. But yes,

808
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: Garret Cole is special and his velossity was there, which

809
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: is a good sign. But as Bieber told us yesterday,

810
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: it's not the velocity, it's the location in the field,

811
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: and sometimes it takes a little longer to get back

812
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 3: than people realize.

813
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 5: I was listening to an interview Grek Cole. If you

814
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 5: want to know how Pitcher's feeling, listen to the way

815
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: they're talking because normally pictures are like how do you feel,

816
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 5: how's your arm feel? It's good, And he was very honest.

817
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: He was like, the velocity is what the velocity is?

818
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 5: He said that that was cool. He said the thing

819
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 5: that surprised him was his location. He felt like the

820
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: pen before he pitched in the game, so it would

821
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: have been whatever three four days ago, whatever is his

822
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 5: you know, his steps are his location was the best

823
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: it had been, and he was like, that is what

824
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 5: that was the most pleasing and satisfying for him, was

825
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: that his location was almost pinpoint. He said, it kind

826
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 5: of even surprised me. So that's a good step for

827
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: Garrett call too.

828
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: For the Yankees. You want him good to go for

829
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: I think a season where you need him. It's not

830
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: the Yankees, aren't the Dodgers. The Dodgers aj you mentioned

831
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: in an earlier part of the show, can kind of

832
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: like cruise control and be careful with a Blake Snell

833
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: who all of a sudden is probably not going to

834
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: pitch until my guess would be May. At this point

835
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: that kind of pops up and they do what Krasts

836
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: does Shruger shoulders like, all right, guests, we'll win ninety

837
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: nine games instead of one oh two, and we'll cruise

838
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And you just want Blake Snell one

839
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: hundred percent in October. Same thing with someone like Tyler

840
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: Glass now who's had many injuries in the past. With

841
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: the Yanks a little different right that. It's they're a

842
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: very good team, but having Garret Cole for most of

843
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: the regular season will help in a very competitive division.

844
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: There are not many weak spots in the AL East

845
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: right now. You could maybe point to the Rays being

846
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: a notch below. Besides that, I feel like the four

847
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: above them are in a pretty similar place.

848
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: Agreed.

849
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: Agreed, There's not There's not a lot of room for error,

850
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: especially in that division and in the in the AL

851
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: in general, because if you look at it, Tigers are

852
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: probably the class of the central right, the Guardians always

853
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: seem to figure out. And you go to the West,

854
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: you got the Mariners, the Astros, and the Rangers all

855
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: in the A's. You can probably throw the A's in

856
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: there as like teams that are seriously trying to get

857
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: to the postseason this year. And then you go to

858
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: the AL East, the four teams and the Rays. So

859
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of room to to mess around.

860
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: And it could be one game or two. But I

861
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: still like the Yankees depth.

862
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: I still do.

863
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, Well, we'll keep an eye on Garrett

864
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Cole and his progress, because it was just one inning.

865
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: He'll very slowly kind of ramp himself up, probably do

866
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: some rehab games and that whole deal, and then we'll

867
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: see when he comes back, but a big, big game

868
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: part of the game, right, Top ten pitcher for a while, now,

869
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: top five, top whatever you want to call him. He's

870
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: one of the best in baseball, and we haven't seen

871
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: him in a minute. So I wanted to just give

872
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: everyone an update and also just try and like get

873
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: ourselves back into MLB mode and who's heard and who's

874
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: ready for the season and all that. We just we

875
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: stepped aside for a while because between camps and WBC action,

876
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: that just kind of had it all for us. So

877
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: just taking a breath, Now, let's swing back. We've got

878
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: more to do on FT and we're going to see

879
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: what other phillies we can grab. Hot corner also could

880
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: have been show me the Money. We are displaying the

881
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: top earners in baseball with endorsements included into the fold.

882
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: This chart is wild and should tell the story of

883
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: how globally sought after shoe Heyo tani is he is

884
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: a global phenomenon. Okay, I'm going to make it nice

885
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: and simple. Here aj the darker color if that's a green,

886
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is, shows the salary meter, and the lighter

887
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: color the green shows the endorsement money. Sho Heo Tani

888
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: is projected to earn one hundred twenty five million dollars

889
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six from sponsor and memorabilia deals. One

890
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: one hundred twenty five million dollars. He is making by

891
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: far more than any other major leaguer, And second on

892
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: the list is pretty interesting. Cody Bellinger on there. Almost

893
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: everyone else on here is majority the darker color because

894
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: it's coming from player salary. You see Sodo, Judge, and

895
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: Harper are getting some good change. The rest of them,

896
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: it's what probably ninety percent plus maybe even more than

897
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: that coming from their actual contracts. So when you see

898
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: this list and you see this chart, what do you think.

899
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, show Hey is the greatest thing baseball has going

900
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: for right now. You need to take absolute advantage of

901
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: it every chance they get, and they're trying to do that.

902
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: I mean, we all know this.

903
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 3: This is why the show Hate contract for the Dodgers

904
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 3: was an absolute no brainer and every other team should

905
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: have tried to get them, because not only does he

906
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: bring in his own money, he brings in money to

907
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: the organization, He brings fans and stands, he brings Japanese

908
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: eyes and televisions into it. So this just shows what

909
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: we all knew, which is, sho hey, Otani is a

910
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: unicorn in this game, and we're fortunate to be able

911
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: to see him in his priduct.

912
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 4: What a number. One hundred and twenty five million dollars?

913
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: What a number? I mean it is.

914
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: It is something that, like AJ said, major LYUE Baseball

915
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 5: needs to not take advantage of this, but make sure

916
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 5: that this doesn't pass by pass them by. The Dodgers.

917
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 5: Clearly haven't the Dodgers. I mean people are gonna come play. Well,

918
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 5: there's just another reason the Dodgers. If he's making one

919
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five million, what are the Dodgers.

920
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 4: Making off of them?

921
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 5: That's the real question, because the Dodgers aren't sitting there going, oh, great,

922
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 5: sho hey, you're fine, make your one twenty five. No,

923
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 5: they're they're getting TV sponsorships. They're getting they're getting sponsorships.

924
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 5: The whole league is getting money because they're games on

925
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: the road. Japanese teams want to telecast those games. Well,

926
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 5: the Dodgers don't have access to that. So there's more money.

927
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: When you have a superstar, generational will go down as

928
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 5: the best player of all time. Because of the fact

929
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: that he can pitch and hit. Major League Baseball is

930
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 5: also profiting.

931
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: Off of this.

932
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Hey, last year they had Otani at around one hundred

933
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: million dollars from endorsement deals, and they said, here in

934
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: what is this Sportico, Yes, Sportico. Three athletes have ever

935
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: done that before? Do you guys know who they are?

936
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Did you read the notes that we put in? Or

937
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: do you want to play the game? Steph Curry, that's

938
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: one I mean talks about this. Lebron has Lebron on here.

939
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 5: Lebron didn't get over one hundred Now, he didn't get

940
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 5: over one hundred million.

941
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: Me I feel like I feel like one of the

942
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: soccer players, either Messi or Ronaldo would be one of them.

943
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: They're not others.

944
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: I thought you guys are in the.

945
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: Right realm other sports, but not the two that you

946
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: just mentioned. Yes, we got Curry, that's the NBA. The

947
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: other two are international icons in their respective country club sports.

948
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: Oh, Tiger would be like a Tiger Woods or something

949
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: like that.

950
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: Have to be a Tiger Woods.

951
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 5: Roger Federer because he had his own he had his

952
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 5: own Federer line.

953
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, Federer and Woods. That's what they

954
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: have at least in here, and Tiger is from a

955
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: while ago. They said his two thousand and nine endorsement

956
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: earnings of one hundred five million was the prior record.

957
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: That's a long time ago. He was a pretty big

958
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: deal back then.

959
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: Hey was the best.

960
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: Yeah for Bellinger, by the way, just as far as

961
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: how much money you're making between your player contract and

962
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: your marketing deals, he's number two at fifty seven point

963
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: five million in baseball. That place to the way the

964
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: sport is shifting. It's been trying to shift this way

965
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: for a while. The big market teams have been trying

966
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: to tighten up the length of the deals at times

967
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be trapped in these large,

968
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: big contracts. So that's where you saw guys like Bellinger

969
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: and Bobaschett, who's relevant today since the Phillies thought they

970
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: had him in the bag and the Mets were like,

971
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: we'll give you just as much or just about as

972
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: much for way less years. And then he goes to

973
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: the Mets, like Don Mattingly he was telling us earlier.

974
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: All right, one more thing. Sportico putting out the top

975
00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: five MLB team valuations, some updated numbers there, and the

976
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: team that has worked the most in their mind. Yeah,

977
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: of course Dodgers Yankees, but it's you would think it's

978
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: the way you described it, but it's still the reverse.

979
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: The Yankees are still rated higher on valuation nine point

980
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: four billion. They've got the Dodgers at nine point zho

981
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: five billion.

982
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't see, I can't see who Cubs.

983
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: I'll read the rest of you. Well, because the podcast

984
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: crab will like this too. Red Sox six point six

985
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: five billion, Chicago Cubs six point four eight billion. And

986
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: then there's another big drop off. There's like basically two tiers.

987
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: You've got the Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, Cubs, and then

988
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: you go down to the Giants to have a valuation

989
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: of four point three six billion.

990
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: Well, show the other show the other league's values.

991
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: That's why the owners of baseball one a salary cap,

992
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: because then their franchise values go up. Yeah, they multiply,

993
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: They go up so fast. I mean, it's crazy when

994
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 3: you look at other sports. And that's why a cap,

995
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: and that's why owners want a cap is because it

996
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: makes their franchise values go up, and then they can

997
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: borrow against those franchises to get into other investments that

998
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 3: make more money.

999
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: So it's crazy how that works.

1000
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: And people say, why are baseball teams not worth as

1001
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: much as other teams? That's the reason, and that's why,

1002
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: hence why some owners want a salary cap, a hardline cap.

1003
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Because.

1004
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 5: No, you're you're saying it's not because they want it

1005
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: to be fair. That's why they're doing a j The

1006
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 5: owners want to make more money off a salary cap system. Unbelievable,

1007
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 5: breaking news clip that. Okay, I thought it was because

1008
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 5: they all wanted it to be fair and they all

1009
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: wanted a chance to win a championship.

1010
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: No, the owners want more money.

1011
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: Well, if you want to be fair, why wouldn't you

1012
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: just share the money and then make the money that's

1013
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: shared have to be spent.

1014
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 4: Right fair?

1015
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: Nope, make it fair, be like cool, Let's give one

1016
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: hundred mill to all these teams that say they can't

1017
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: and then they actually have to spend it on the team.

1018
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 5: Oh, they we get good players, and there would be

1019
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 5: good players on the field, and then everybody's value would

1020
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 5: go up.

1021
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 4: Don't do it, Scott, don't do it. Don't don't don't

1022
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 4: say the common sense things.

1023
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay,