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Speaker 1: Ooh, coo Casey, it's freezing.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I'm cold because we're doing something a little different

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Speaker 2: this episode. We're recording from Antarctica at a US research facility,

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Speaker 2: much like the movie we're talking about today. It's cold, Millie.

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Speaker 2: How do you do with the cold? I can't to

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Speaker 2: be frank.

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Speaker 1: So, when I was younger, you know, I lived in

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Speaker 1: Chicago briefly as a child.

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Speaker 2: How old were you when you left Chicago? I was

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Speaker 2: in kindergarten. But were you born in Chicago? No, my

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was born in California, but my dad lived there.

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Speaker 1: My mom lived there for a while after they basically

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Speaker 1: when my dad immigrated to America, the family it was

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Speaker 1: kind of split between Chicago and California, like La, right,

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Speaker 1: and so they kind of started out when my mom.

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Speaker 1: Of course, my dad married my mom and the Philippines,

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Speaker 1: and then they moved to America together. They kind of

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Speaker 1: lived in you know, basically coastal California, La San Diego.

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Speaker 1: I was born in San Diego on the naval base there,

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Speaker 1: but then we moved. I spent like six months of

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Speaker 1: took an amtrak from San Diego to Chicago and then

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Speaker 1: I lived there.

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Speaker 2: My sister was born there.

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Speaker 1: I lived there until I was about in kindergarten ish,

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Speaker 1: and then we moved to the South.

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Speaker 2: A large chunk of time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I lived in Chicago. I remember it.

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Speaker 1: I remember it being cold. And when I was a

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Speaker 1: young person, I liked the cold weather. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: bundled up and wearing like pea coats and being you know,

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Speaker 1: I get older, I start really really hating the cold,

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Speaker 1: Like it's getting worse and worse, to a point where

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Speaker 1: I'm like, now, if I catch a chill, I can't

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Speaker 1: get rid of it for a long time. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to really understand why old people live in

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Speaker 1: hot climates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna do. You've been in

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis for I'm very yeah, I'm very intimate. I have

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Speaker 2: I mean it was crazy how cold it was. I

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Speaker 2: and I have some rules for myself. I refuse to

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Speaker 2: be even slightly chilly, So even if it might be

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Speaker 2: kind of embarrassing, I'm wrapping myself up in blankets, you know, jackets, scarves,

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Speaker 2: so that I'm always incredibly toasty and I feel like

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Speaker 2: psychologically that helps me. And you know, if you have

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Speaker 2: more of a preparation and effort type of thing. But

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Speaker 2: the cold, I mean it's harsh. Sometimes it gets me

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Speaker 2: down and it just feels it physically is painful, you

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Speaker 2: know when you get into like a cold car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, you got any brand loyalties?

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Speaker 2: Like, like, what's your brand loyalties? The big one? I'm

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Speaker 2: not loyal to this brand, but a lot of people

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Speaker 2: wear car Heart. But there's another company called the Duluth

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Speaker 2: Trade Company, which is a Minnesota company, and I like

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Speaker 2: to buy their wintry things because it's Minnesotan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to have to get underwear and socks

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Speaker 2: I just refuse. I have a space heater next to

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Speaker 1: Do you wear a specific type of boot, any brand?

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Speaker 2: Any brand? I have no brand loyalty there now, and

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Speaker 2: you know what, To be honest, I'm like a fake

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Speaker 1: Yes, brand loyalties if you will indulge me, because I

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Speaker 1: I'm an informed consumer. I love a Wirecutter podcast, as

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Speaker 1: you know. Because it's been like, it's not as cold here,

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Speaker 1: That's cold here for sure. I have a Columbia jacket,

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Speaker 2: Which I hadn't worn.

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Speaker 1: I bought it when I went to England, and then

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Speaker 1: But Bloomstones. I love Blumstones, and I'm just gonna wear

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Speaker 1: I do is ride out, ride out. When the kids

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember all this, Casey, but

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Speaker 1: do you remember when I went up to Maine, which

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Speaker 2: To like you guys ransacked like an LLL Bean. We

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Speaker 2: went to like three LL Bean's.

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Speaker 1: Casey, I have a lot of lban socks. I do

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Speaker 1: like darn tough socks. I'm like an Arii's best customer.

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Speaker 2: Basically, I see so they hate to see you coming.

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Speaker 2: What's the expression, ari I hates to see me coming?

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Speaker 2: Something like that? Uh, do you it was really cold

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Speaker 1: Casey, this is like part and the reason why I

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Speaker 1: also hate the cold. I hate being stuck. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be stuck. I live alone, okay, as I

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Speaker 1: we don't even have downe here, but you know what

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm tired of the Internet.

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Speaker 1: And then I started like ordering things online, which is

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Speaker 2: I ended up buying.

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Speaker 1: This is so stupid, Casey. For some reason, I like

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Speaker 1: had this weird order online. Way ordered a kaboodle. Do

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is now.

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Speaker 1: A kaboodle is like nineteen eight A peak of the

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Speaker 2: I know what a kaboodle is, Yes, I just didn't

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Speaker 1: It was like a place for you know, girls and

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Speaker 1: anyone else that was interested in makeup to like store

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Speaker 1: I ordered so I ordered a new kabboodle because I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh they still make kaboodles. Wow, I could

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Speaker 1: use something to organize my makeup. So I decided to

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Speaker 1: order one of those. And then I ordered a Guns

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Speaker 1: and Roses T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I saw a classic one.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, it's actually from user Illusion one. So because

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, everybody has the appetite for destruction shirt?

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Speaker 2: What about Use Your Illusion one? Which is an illusion?

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Speaker 2: Does that have November rain on it?

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Speaker 1: Yes, duck listen when one Use Your Illusion one and

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Speaker 1: two came out, I was at peak obsession with Guns

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Speaker 1: Swoop one Fail.

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Speaker 2: Ordering Swoop.

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Speaker 1: I was like jettisons back to middle school, where I

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Speaker 1: was like, I ordered a kaboodle and a Guns and

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Speaker 2: I have way too bored. I need to leave the house.

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Speaker 1: This is not good.

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Speaker 2: Things are getting grim. Yeah, wow, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I mean you've probably spent a lot of time indoors,

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Speaker 2: Here's the Minnesota thing. Though. They people refuse to let

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Speaker 2: bike riding during the winter. That's its own culture here.

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Speaker 2: You know, people just will not be stopped. So that's

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean we can't get freaky out on them streets.

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Speaker 1: But see, they probably clear the streets. Like the biggest

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Speaker 1: issue I think with where I live is that they'll

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Speaker 1: clear the major roadways. But if you live in a

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Speaker 2: You talking about clearing the snow.

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Speaker 2: But like most streets, like side streets, like neighborhood streets

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Speaker 1: Oh so the city doesn't do that for you.

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Speaker 2: Have they doing more main thoroughfares. They'll salt the roads

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Speaker 2: and they'll plow the roads, but it's still like there's

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Speaker 2: like still a lot of snow on the road. It's

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Speaker 2: like the road is white.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so wow.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, that's cold talk for you. But we got a

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Speaker 2: big show today. We're talking about a cold movie, The

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Speaker 2: Thing from nineteen eighty two. And then we have a

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Speaker 2: great guest. We have my friend Lucy Tomlin Brenner, filmmaker, comedian, podcaster.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna be on for my area of expertise. She's

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Speaker 2: Millie and Lucy both go insane during it, and it's fun.

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Speaker 1: We actually go insane.

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Speaker 1: You could be like, it would be like below Deck,

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Speaker 2: We opened up the Cold Film Diary. What do you got?

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Speaker 1: So we went a little bit off script this week

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Speaker 1: And they like looked at me and they were like,

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Speaker 1: Had it been any other movie than Mystic Pizza, I

437
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: probably would have said nothing. I know I would have

438
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: said nothing, but listen. We had some wine and it

439
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: was fourteen degrees outside and I just thought, let's let's

440
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, make these people laugh and maybe they'll ride

441
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: in with a film ripe and talk about me. Sure,

442
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, anyway, that's what happened. That's the only movie

443
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: I saw this week, though, That's great. I saw two

444
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: movies this week.

445
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: I enjoyed both of them. Number one was Night Shift

446
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty two, starring Henry Winkler and Michael Keaton,

447
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: directed by Ron Howard. Yeah, it's sort of like risky

448
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: business and that they're running a brothel out of a morgue,

449
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: like a city morgue. I thought it was really sweet

450
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: and fun and I kind of miss like heartfelt, goofy

451
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: comedies like this. You know, they don't make they don't

452
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: make movies like this anymore. Yeah, and you know, Henry

453
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Winkler is charming and it's funny because this is like

454
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: his first movie after Happy Days, and I think Happy

455
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: Days was still on while he was in this movie.

456
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: But in like this movie, he's like a mid thirties,

457
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: you know man, which is what he was, but on

458
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: Happy Days he's like ostensibly like just out of high school,

459
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: I guess, but just kind of fun.

460
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: Had Rod Howard and Henry Winkler worked like was this

461
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: the first time that they were doing something together that

462
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: wasn't Happy.

463
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: Days, I believe so, and but it was fun. I

464
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: had a good time. And you can kind of see

465
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: the beginnings of Beetlejuice in Michael Keaton's character. H like

466
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: kind of this sort of felt like a rehearsal for Beetlejuice.

467
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: So that was fun. That's good. Then I watched Set

468
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: it Off from nineteen ninety six with Queen Latifah, Jada Pinkett.

469
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Who else is in it? Vi Ka Fox and Blair

470
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: Underwood A great time. Man, was it? It's so fun?

471
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: I was like I was, I was like having a

472
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: fucking blast. I was just totally into this one. I

473
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: had never seen it before. It was great.

474
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: We did an episode about it on I saw what

475
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: you did. Oh you did uh huh. But it's it's

476
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: it's so fun. I don't know why. I was like trying.

477
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: I was excited when you said set it Off, and

478
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: I was like making like little pistol noises, and then

479
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: I it morphed into Spider Man fingers And I don't

480
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: really know why that happened, because there's no Spider Man

481
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: in Set it Off. Spider Man is not in set

482
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: it off, but uh, oh, I loved it. I thought

483
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, I don't want to spoil it for anybody,

484
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: but I mean it is like a hard R rated movie.

485
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: It is like really violent and dark. Yeah, girl, I

486
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: was kind of surprised by that. It's real girl powery

487
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: it is, and I love that shit. And the end

488
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: is really good. Yeah, I thought it was a really

489
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: good ending. And uh, there's something that bank robberies kind

490
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: of scare me for some reason. There's something about like

491
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: like I kind of get obsessed with them in real

492
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: life too, like the North Hollywood bank robbery, that famous

493
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 2: one where it's like a huge shootout and like a

494
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: guy killed himself during the shootout, and it's like, I

495
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: don't know, there's just something about these people who are

496
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: like either I'm going to be fabulously rich or I'm

497
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: gonna die violently, and I'm kind of ready for either extreme.

498
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: That's kind of scary to me. You know, there's something

499
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: about that that really kind of gets to me.

500
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because I might be wrong about this,

501
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: but I understand. I think I'm basically sick. I am

502
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: I empathized with this fear, and I think maybe it

503
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: might be the idea that it's such high stakes because

504
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: a it is probably the biggest concentration of money you

505
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: could probably possibly get like one sitting right.

506
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's.

507
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: That on top of that, it is it's got to

508
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: be a huge undertaking because of the complications of like

509
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: the security and the amount of space and all this stuff.

510
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: So it almost requires like extra it's like an extra

511
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: thing where you're like you can't just like walk in

512
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: and be all willy nilly about things, like you have

513
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: to have a plan sort of you have to have

514
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: like you have to be okay with the idea that

515
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: it may go wrong because of all of the factors.

516
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I feel like there's like kind of

517
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: like two ways you can rob a bank. And now

518
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 2: all of my research is based on movies and not

519
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: fact obviously, but it's kind of the nimble like I've

520
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: got a gun, give me the money, and I'm going

521
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: to walk out of here, like just kind of like

522
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: the quiet bank robbery or the like we have machine

523
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: guns and are taking over in a hostile takeover of

524
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: the bank, like there's no in between. Yeah, you know,

525
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: and yeah.

526
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: But to even do because okay, we want to bring

527
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: this back to film. There's like the silent partner way,

528
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: which is basically like slipping a note. Yeah, how what's

529
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: the most you could probably get is whatever it's in

530
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: the drawer, right, But then there's the dark day afternoon way,

531
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: which is basically like a good morning everybody, like you know,

532
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: hostages and go to the safe like that kind of

533
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: bank robbery.

534
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: So, I don't know.

535
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: Both seem kind of dicey, too much ground to cover,

536
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: too much planning.

537
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's funny. Queen Lativa's character is like, God,

538
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: what do we gotta be talking about all this plans

539
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: and stuff. Let's just go in there blow it up.

540
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: I was like, do not listen to Queen Lativa.

541
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: She's hot to trot.

542
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: What a good job. But I loved it. I loved it.

543
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: So all right, let's close up the diary.

544
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: All right, goodbye, goodbye.

545
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into our main movie discussion. The

546
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: Thing from nineteen eighty two. This is a very classic

547
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: and iconic like credit sequence too, where it's like the

548
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: burning of the the thing appearing in the screen. That's cool,

549
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: it's good to see that again. Anyways. This was directed

550
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: by John Carpenter based on it. It's a screenplay by

551
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Bill Lancaster. It's based on the novella Who Goes There

552
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: by John W. Campbell Jr. And, as Miliardy said, this

553
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: is a remake. There's an there's another movie, The Thing

554
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: from Another World, And yes, that's so, it's a remake

555
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: of that movie, but it's also based on the novella.

556
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Standout actors Kurt Russell, Keith David Wilford Brimley. This is

557
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: kind of a classic John Carpenter movie where it introduces

558
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: like seventy five men and you're like, all these fools

559
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: are gonna die there. I think of the movie Prince

560
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: of Darkness. It introduces like eight hundred cares.

561
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Remember when we talked about that movie,

562
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: we were like, man, they got like a couple Asian

563
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: people in here. That's that's unheard of.

564
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: Personal connection to you, Millie, what's your personal connection to

565
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: the thing? Do you remember the first time you saw it? God?

566
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: I actually don't, to be honest, I don't either. I

567
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: don't either.

568
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: I don't and had to have been when I was.

569
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: Younger, because I've loved this movie for so long. My

570
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: personal connection to it is that I'm a huge John

571
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: Carpenter fan obviously a very essential film to watch in

572
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: his filmography. I'm also a fan of Kurt Russell with

573
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: a beard and longish hair.

574
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were kind of laughing when we were watching

575
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: it this time, Tricia and I because I was like,

576
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, he wears that big sombrero hat sometimes. Okay,

577
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: Kurt Russell does.

578
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: We got to talk about this because should I talk

579
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: about this now?

580
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: Do it? Okay?

581
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I like to read to a weather fact about Antarctica,

582
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: which is where this movie is supposed to take place,

583
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: because these people are Antarctic researchers. Antarctica's average temperature varies

584
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: wildly from a chilli average of around fourteen degrees fahrenheit

585
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: in the summer on the coast to a brutal negative

586
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: seventy six degrees fahrenheit during winter, with the interior averaging

587
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: around negative seventy one degrees fahrenheit annually. So I want

588
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: to point this out in reference to talking about Kurt

589
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Russell's sombrero and outfit.

590
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Okay, the thing that bothered me the most about watching.

591
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: This is that his outfit is not appropriate for this climate.

592
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: No, it's not. He's and he there's a lot of them.

593
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: I feel like Keith David was out in a thin turtleneck.

594
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: That's like you know that in these climates, if you

595
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: walk out into the open air and you don't put

596
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: gloves on, in like twenty seconds, you get frostbite. And

597
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, it's like this is the this is the

598
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: type of climate. And I think, for what I remember,

599
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: this is the beginning of winter.

600
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: When they this movie, he said it's the first day

601
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: of winter.

602
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: Right, so we're not getting the neg we're not getting

603
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: the fourteen degrees fahrenheit, we're.

604
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Getting the negative fifty.

605
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like going Kurt Russell has like a little

606
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: tiny bomber jacket on where it was like, fuck, he's

607
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: got it from like Wilson's the leather Experts. It's got

608
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: no insulation beyond like a fur collar.

609
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: You know.

610
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: He's got his little you know, RII sun hat and

611
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: his little pants and I'm like he is so underdressed

612
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and he's like going up in a fucking helicopter. No,

613
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

614
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's funny is like he wears the

615
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: sombrero like once or twice, but really he just has

616
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: the most beautiful flowing hair and it's like clearly they're like,

617
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: we're not putting a hat on this, of course, you know,

618
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: there's like for cinematic reasons, No way, we're not.

619
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: We can't cover this hotty up in any you know,

620
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: actual low temperature gear because it would distract from his

621
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: beautiful face and his beautiful eyes.

622
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: So it should be noted too that Millie and I

623
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: spent about thirty minutes discovering that there is a difference

624
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: between the Arctic Circle and Antarctica. After we recorded the intro.

625
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: We both didn't really realize they were separate places, but

626
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: now we are informed. Well, I mean I always knew.

627
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Santa Claus is from one place

628
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: and then the other places where they research penguins.

629
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: But is it the.

630
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: Same place that was? That was my big question, and

631
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: as we found out, it's not.

632
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: So this movie takes place in Antarctica, which is the

633
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Southern which is an actual continent at the bottom of

634
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: the Earth, where.

635
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: My friend found romance and you know, the love of

636
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: her life.

637
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: So yes, my personal connection. Yeah, I love John Carpenter.

638
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: I've been kind of on a kick lately too of

639
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: watching his like later movies like Ghosts from Mars, Ghosts

640
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: of Mars whatever that one is, uh, and Uh, Escape

641
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: from La another movie I like, Uh he needs And

642
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: I watched Vampires recently too, which is probably, to me,

643
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: his worst movie. But I love him. I think he's great,

644
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: and I rewatched his movies all the time. To me,

645
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 2: when I think of watching horror movies around Halloween, I

646
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: think of John Carpenter movies.

647
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you that I hung out with him briefly,

648
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: right what. Yeah, When I was in La, I had

649
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: to tea some classic film festival baby, I you know,

650
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: was his talent escort for something, and he actually came up,

651
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: like we were sitting in the green room and he

652
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I watched TC Underground and I was like.

653
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: That's tight, Millie, that's great.

654
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Oh my fucking heart dropped into my ass when he

655
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: said that. And then he goes because honestly, like right afterwards,

656
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: he goes, you don't play enough fifty science fiction films,

657
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, yes, sir, I'm sorry, I'll fix

658
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: that immediately.

659
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: He's a certified grump. He seems like a but like

660
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: a good one. He's like a blue rump. He loves basketball,

661
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: he loves the Lakers, I know that much. He was

662
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be at a Q and A that I

663
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: went to, but his wife showed up and was like, sorry,

664
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers are on tonight, He's not coming. What a guy.

665
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: I fucking love that shit. And like, honestly, the best

666
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: thing about him when I had met him that time

667
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: was that he was wearing baseball stirrup socks. You know

668
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Like, yeah, you get him in

669
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the Little League or whatever. And then he went outside

670
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: and smoked a cigarette and came back in. I mean,

671
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: I just love the guy.

672
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: So he's another one of those guys that looks like

673
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 2: he's been sixty three for the last forty years.

674
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, Oh man, Well, let's get in the movie

675
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 5: a little bit kept Antarctica.

676
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: That's where we're at. A random dog has made its

677
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: way from a Norwegian research station to our main location,

678
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: which is a US research station. The movie starts with

679
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: these Norwegians shooting at this dog running across like this

680
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: field of snow, and the dog makes it to this

681
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: US research station, which is where we spend the rest

682
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: of the movie basically, and there, like I said, there's

683
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: like seventy five people in this movie, So I'm just

684
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: gonna say the main ones that we have to know about.

685
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: There's Mac played by Kurt Russell. He's a helicopter pilot.

686
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: There's Blair played by Wilfred Brimley, he's a doctor. And

687
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: there's Childs played by Keith David. He's the main mechanic.

688
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: So the dog ends up at this research station with

689
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: these guys. These Norwegians are coming after them, and they

690
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: are like crazy and shooting at people and the trying

691
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: to get the dog and they they're like going stone nuts.

692
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: They accidentally blow themselves up and get shot. So the

693
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: US station is confused because these two guy Norwegians are dead,

694
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: but they have this dog that they were chasing after. Okay,

695
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: so they're like, we gotta figure out what happened at

696
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: the Norwegian station. Let's go over there. So Mac and

697
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: the doctor played by Richard Dysert, they go to check

698
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: out the Norwegian station and it's blowed up. It's like

699
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: on fire and no one's there. But they discovered these disgusting,

700
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: mutilated and mutated human bodies and they bring the bodies

701
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: back to the US research station. They soon discover that

702
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: the Norwegians had uncovered a flying saucer that was deep

703
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: beneath the ice and it had been there for like

704
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand years, and they uncovered some life form

705
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: from that space station, that flying saucer. I mean, you've

706
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: we've touched on Kurt Russell a little bit. What do

707
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: you think of our guy just generally or in the film,

708
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: his kind of film and generally both.

709
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: Very rugged, very manly, you know, kind of takes like

710
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: a leadership role despite the fact that he's not the captain.

711
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of got a goofiness about him too.

712
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: I always appreciate that. It's kind of like he gets hit.

713
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: He could see him getting hit in the head with

714
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: a frying pan in a movie too, and it would

715
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: he would be able to handle that.

716
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh, he's exactly like like every helicopter pilot that you'd

717
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: ever see in an eighties movie. Wasn't Mel Gibson and

718
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: Air America the same guy? Like?

719
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: Is that the movie that I'm thinking of? That one

720
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: missed me.

721
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: I didn't see that one, or maybe mel Gibson wasn't

722
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: a hell I think Robert Donny Junior was the helicopter

723
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: pilot or something.

724
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: In that movie.

725
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's the same kind of premise for it's

726
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: basically like some kind of pilot that is like, you know, real,

727
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: like easy breezy. He's like, he's like a guys guy.

728
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's at the beginning of the thing. Kurt

729
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: Russell's character. First of all, all he does is drink

730
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 1: JB scotch, right, which if you don't know, by the way,

731
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: is it J and B scotch Maybe I said it wrong, Yeah,

732
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: always doing. All he's doing is drinking J and B

733
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: scotch right, and he's he's playing computer chess, which I

734
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: think is really interesting. But he if you don't know

735
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: about this, JB. Scotch is like a huge seventies movie

736
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: exploitation movie.

737
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: Drink. It's like in every movie. Yeah, it's kind of

738
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: like a wink. You're kind of like, oh, I put

739
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: J and B Scotch in my movie. It kind of

740
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: is like a kind of a signal to that it's

741
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: in on the or something.

742
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and it's like every detective, every crime boss,

743
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: every you know, hit man in a seventies movie is

744
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: drinking J ANDB scotch.

745
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: Right.

746
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: It's kind of an iconic symbol of I would call

747
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: like cult movies or Jader movies or whatever. Right, Yeah,

748
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: so that to me is already like establishes that he's

749
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: a man's man is the J and B Scotch. But

750
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: then it's like, you know, him wearing his you know how, guys,

751
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: you're not this guy because you just taught you just

752
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: said this. Guys that are just like I don't need

753
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: a jacket, I don't need I gonna wear shorts, you.

754
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: Know, Millie, It is a huge issue in Minnesota. It's

755
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: this it's this thing where it's kind of like guys

756
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: are expected to wear the bare minimum or less than

757
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: the bare minimum amount of like layers when it's cold.

758
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: So that's why when you go to like the grocery

759
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: store and it's like negative twenty one, and you'll see

760
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: a guy in shorts in there, cause it's kind of

761
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: like a thing men don't want to like wrap up

762
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: too much, or you get kind of made fun of.

763
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: You're like you're a little overdressed, aren't you. But it's

764
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: like it's cold, I refuse to play your game, you know?

765
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: Is it because men are supposed to endure the elements

766
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: and not be pussies?

767
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Is that why? That's right? That's so stupid. That's like

768
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, men are stupid.

769
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to here, it's stupid.

770
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: I agree, you know what being.

771
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: A pussy is having your fingers and toes fall off?

772
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: That's right, I are you go? So, yeah, that is

773
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: like a big thing here. I noticed like if it

774
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: gets above thirty, all of a sudden, guys are like

775
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: wearing T shirts outside.

776
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a little bit of a Kurt Russell

777
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: character in the thing, right, he's definitely like manly drinking

778
00:42:54,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: J and B scotch underdressing for the Antarctic winter. It's

779
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: sort of like, you know, like a guy that's uh

780
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: going to take care of business, Like you know that

781
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: he's going to take care of business while he's you know,

782
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: asking for the fucking flamethrower and shit.

783
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: You know that's the thing it quickly establishes. You know,

784
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: this computer chess game one, he's pissed off. He pours

785
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: the J and B scotch into the computer, destroying it.

786
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: So you know he's fast acting. He doesn't he doesn't

787
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: think too much, you know, or he's decisive. I should say, so.

788
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: I do like that he has his own little shack.

789
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: He's kind of removed from the rest of the group.

790
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: He's definitely like his own, his own weird guy. Yes,

791
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: I you know, it's funny that you mentioned this earlier,

792
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: about the idea that you'd love to like work at

793
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Antarctica one day.

794
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I don't know what reality this would happen,

795
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: because I have a wife and child, but you know,

796
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: I can dream.

797
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: What if they were like Casey, the Antarctic researchers here

798
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: at the United States whatever Mediological Society or whatever it

799
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: is down there. They want to start a podcast and

800
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: they need a podcast producer.

801
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: And it needs to be about Garden State, and.

802
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Your mission lasts for three months over the course of

803
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: the most brutal winter you've ever experienced.

804
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, if they needed me, I'd be there with my

805
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: little microphone in my computer.

806
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: So you're okay with like, because I think part of

807
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: obviously the terror of this film the thing is the

808
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: idea that you're in a bunker and you're kind of

809
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you're in an enclosed environment with

810
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: other people where you know, much like the shining, it's

811
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: like the door is shutting, it's too cold to go outside.

812
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: You're going to have to have everything that you need.

813
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: In this bunker.

814
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if something goes wrong in the bunker, you're

815
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of fucked because you can't go out.

816
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: So you're okay with that.

817
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: But you don't feel claustrophobic about that scenario whatsoever.

818
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: I'm not a claustrophobic. I like staying inside. I like

819
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: being in an enclosed space.

820
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I can dabble in it for

821
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: I think much like now, I would be able to

822
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: do it for the first like maybe week.

823
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I would.

824
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: Start to get a little restless.

825
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: You know what made me really want to go to

826
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: the ant into Antarctica? In this movie, they're like little

827
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: game room, looked tight. They're playing pool, they got a bar,

828
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: they're playing cards, they're smoking cigarettes every night. That sounds fun. Yeah,

829
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: I do love it. That looks fun.

830
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I do love that. But then I don't know. Then

831
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: you got to sleep in bunk beds with other dudes.

832
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean it would probably get pretty grim.

833
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: No internet.

834
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Do you think there'd be no internet? I bet there'd

835
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: be internet now, Well, not in nineteen eighty two. Is

836
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: the thing that's true. But that's true, but I don't know.

837
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: I've been thinking the internet.

838
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: It's not that great Antarctica probably probably. I'm gonna move

839
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: on to the next part here. So that random Norwegian dog,

840
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: he's put with the other dogs that they have, but

841
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: this ain't no dog. The men soon discover that this

842
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: Norwegian dog is a fucking freak. It's an alien that

843
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: assimilates and perfectly replicates other living creatures. So they catch

844
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: it kind of like absorbing these other dogs. And it's like,

845
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: it's hard to even explain visually what this looks like.

846
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's disgusting. There's like tentacle tongue things whipping

847
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: all around. It's crazy. But now, you know, they discover

848
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: that this alien thing, you know, they take a flamethrow

849
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: to it, but they discover they're like, you know, this

850
00:46:55,560 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: alien thing, it assimilates and it replicates other people, so

851
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: other living creatures, so any of the guys here could

852
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: be an alien, and they don't know who's an alien

853
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 2: and who's not. And it's around this time when Blair,

854
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: who's the Wilford Brimley character, he goes nuts because he

855
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: realizes that this alien creature if it got to civilization,

856
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: would like just take over the human race. So he

857
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: like intentionally destroys all of their means of transportation and

858
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: the radio and stuff. He goes nuts, so they lock

859
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: him away. He doesn't seem to be infected, but he

860
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: just kind of went crazy, so they lock him away

861
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: in max little shack, uh far away from everybody else.

862
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: The powers of the thing the alien are like a

863
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: little confusing because it like replicates, but it also just

864
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: grows into like a giant beast creature, you know what

865
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like not totally clear what the powers are.

866
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 4: Well.

867
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: And also I guess my when I was trying to

868
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: figure out when I was rewatching it, I shouldn't know

869
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: this by now. I've seen this movie many times, but

870
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: I guess I just haven't really sat and thought about it.

871
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: Is when it.

872
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Decides to like pop out, Yeah, do you know what

873
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean? Because that they they sort of go into

874
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: this realm where it's like, if it feels like it's

875
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: being threatened, that it'll manifest to try and say of itself, right, yeah,

876
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: which is the blood test scenario that they were work

877
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: you know.

878
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Later on they do this test where they take

879
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: blood from people and they realize if they touch heat

880
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: to the blood that the blood will freak out and

881
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: you'll be able to tell that they're an alien. But

882
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: the thing is, I couldn't I can't tell if like

883
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: the guys that have been taken over, if they're like

884
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm an alien, or if they're it like Pops. They

885
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: don't even know it's in there and it pops out

886
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: of them.

887
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And I guess it's kind of like,

888
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: well when does it happen? Because some it's for some

889
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: of them, it seems like a very short time from

890
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: infection to you know, exploding out of their bodies, and

891
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: then other times it takes a longer time, and so

892
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of like what's the tempo? And maybe that's it.

893
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just random, which I guess is the scariest

894
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: thing of all.

895
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: But I kind of like that it's sort of random

896
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: because it's sort of like we don't know, Like these

897
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: characters would never really know the answer what it is doing.

898
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: They have like a guess of what it's doing, but

899
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: it is like an alien creature and it could have

900
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: powers they don't even understand, you know.

901
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it really does up the stakes when

902
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: it's like you could be sitting next to the sky

903
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: for like a year, a whole year, yeah, and be

904
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: like yeah, and all of a sudden his alien comes

905
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: out his thing.

906
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: He turned around. He's got little tentacles coming out of

907
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: the eyeballs. Let me let me tell you this.

908
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think obviously, because I've gone through some hard

909
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: times in the past couple of weeks with my dog

910
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: having to you know, have my dog transition over to

911
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: her new life, her rainbow bridge thing. I don't even

912
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: know how to say it, how do Like, I'm just

913
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: having a hard time with everything these days, articulating my

914
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: thoughts when it comes to the death of my beautiful

915
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: bestie Sophie. But I think because of that, I really

916
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: couldn't take the dog stuff this time. Yeah, Like the

917
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: sweet little husky right, because they're all like these husky dogs,

918
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, Alaska and husky, that's type of dog, the

919
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: sled dogs, the cold weather dogs. Right, beautiful eyes. It's

920
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: like laying on it's like it's like, you know, like

921
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: and laying on its paws and its head down and

922
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, it's just fucking like this

923
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: right through the mouth which I thought was, Oh.

924
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: I know, I felt bad for the other little doggies

925
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: in there getting attacked. I mean, it was, it was,

926
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: it was.

927
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: I know they were like because Richard Messer, who's one

928
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: of the I guess he's the keeper of the dogs, right,

929
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: he's like the dog guy, the dog you know, puts

930
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: them in their kennel, which again I was, I know,

931
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: they're like, they're good with the cold weather, but I

932
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: was like, can't sell a dog pile, Like you guys

933
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: should sleep next to each other.

934
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: But they the other dogs. When when the dog that was.

935
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Being chased by the Norwegians gets put into the kennel

936
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: and the other dogs are kind of sitting around being

937
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: like there's something going on with this dog, they start

938
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: growling at him. And then that's when you know, the

939
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: whole transition happens from sweetheart to alien. And then they're

940
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: trying to get out of the fucking kettle. Like one

941
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: of the dogs is like biting the chicken wire trying.

942
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: To bust out of there.

943
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: And I just was like, I can't take this, Like

944
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: my heart is hurting for all these alien dogs. I

945
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: don't want them to have this stupid thing in their bodies.

946
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was hard. Yeah, I mean maybe we

947
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 2: could talk about the practical effects a little bit. I

948
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 2: mean I think that's kind of what this movie Known

949
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: for two is, like the really insane and impressive practical effects.

950
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: It is fun and it's just really this movie just

951
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: proves you can tell the difference visually when something is

952
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: computer generated and when it's a practical effect. There's when

953
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: the time is taken to do it.

954
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: There's this like like right when you figure out it

955
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: a practical effect because it's kind of this like stutter

956
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: of the effect, you know, whereas like a CGI think

957
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: is automatic, like it's very smooth, like the transition is

958
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: move but with a practical effect, it's like you have

959
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: to wait for the like chest cavity to open up

960
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: and then you know it's like a it's like a

961
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: machine or something. And you're like, oh, I love a

962
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: practical effect for that. Love love like two seconds of

963
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: shittiness that happens. It's so wonderful.

964
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I would rather there be two seconds

965
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: of shittiness than just sort of this like bland smooth thing.

966
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's.

967
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: Fun when it's shitty. God, it's fun when it's shitty,

968
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: But I think it's also scarier because you're like, that's

969
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: a real thing. I know it's not really a monster,

970
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: but they created something that's real that's on the screen.

971
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 2: You know, your eyes can tell. So like that when Norris,

972
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, they like the doctor about to do the

973
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: uh one, are those the the electrical pads to clear?

974
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: And then puts his later the fibrullator and the guy's

975
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: stomach opens up and he just bites the doctor's hands off,

976
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, and then that guy's head comes

977
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 2: off and starts walking around, and they did that all practice.

978
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: It's like, it looks good. It's so good that.

979
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: Piece, it's wonderful. I wonder who has that chess cavity now?

980
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: Is it at somebody's house? You know?

981
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, like, you know, they don't do practical effects like

982
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: this unless it's like intentionally schlocky. But it seems like

983
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: the money is always put towards CGI And I'm like,

984
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: is it just too expensive to do practical effects at

985
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: this higher level now? Or are people lazy or do

986
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: they feel like that looks cheap in a modern Hollywood movie?

987
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think it's probably less expensive to do

988
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: computers and also time and also you know, like you're

989
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay practical effects artists like you know,

990
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: their trade, which is like annoying too, because those people

991
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: are fucking artists.

992
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 2: They're like genius is I'm like, oh, absolutely.

993
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: You know.

994
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: I But I wonder if, like, you know, a Marvel

995
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 2: movie would never spend the money on this and the time,

996
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: even though they have both to do practical effects, because

997
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: I think CGI has a specific look to it and

998
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: they feel like, well, they don't want it to look

999
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: too rough around the edges, you know, they want it

1000
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: to be like a really professional looking thing, And I

1001
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: wonder if that has something to do with it, not

1002
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 2: just like just aesthetically, it looks more polished to do

1003
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: CGI for everything.

1004
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: God, do we know any practical effects people?

1005
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: Can?

1006
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: We have a lot of podcasts so I can just

1007
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: ask questions.

1008
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, shitheads, let us know, do some research, try to

1009
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: find if you have any friends who do practical effects

1010
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: for movies. We want to talk to you.

1011
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, dear movie is at exactly rybda dot com. The

1012
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: caveat being they have to let me ask them every

1013
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: stupid question I've ever wanted to ask.

1014
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, it could take hours.

1015
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's just part of it, so thank you.

1016
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: Well. The next part of this movie we kind of

1017
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: talked about it. Guys, our chests are opening up, biting

1018
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: guy's arms off, things hit, shit, hits the fan. This

1019
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: guy Bennings, he gets assimilated. They have flame throw his ass.

1020
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 2: This other guy, Fuchs, sets himself on fire so he

1021
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: doesn't get assimilated. Mac shoots Clark the dog guy because

1022
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: the dog guy was gonna come after him with a knife. Yeah,

1023
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: the doctor gets his arms bitten off, Norris's head mutates

1024
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: and crawls away like a spider. Other guys get infected,

1025
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: blow them up. There's a lot of shit going on,

1026
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: and all the while, you know, Blair is out in

1027
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: the shed, so they're like, we got to go check

1028
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: on him, bring him back in. But they go out

1029
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 2: there and guess what, he's gone. He's not in there,

1030
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: so he must have been infected. The alien, the thing

1031
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: must have gotten him. So he's out there somewhere. But

1032
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: they discover this was this took me out of it

1033
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: a little bit. They discover that in the hours that

1034
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: Blair has been out in the shed, he has built

1035
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: a spaceship to fly off because he's been taken over

1036
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: by the thing. I guess. Wow, so this thing built

1037
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: a spaceship really quickly. Yes, but that was kind of crazy.

1038
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: You know. This is the section of the movie where

1039
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, start to think about current political climates and whatnot.

1040
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: And I always find that, you know, movies about paranoia

1041
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: like this always hit harder in times of political upheaval

1042
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: and strife and fact. And so of course I'm like

1043
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: watching the thing this time, going ah, fuck, this is real.

1044
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: This shit is real.

1045
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: We're all doing this. We're all walking around not knowing

1046
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: who each other is. Yeah, you know, we're all like

1047
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: freaking each other out, you know, being like you know whatever.

1048
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like who's got the woke mind virus or.

1049
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Who's been infected with magism or whatever?

1050
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: Queuing on yeah out there who's not? Yeah? And like

1051
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean during the COVID stuff, it's like who's vaccinated

1052
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: and who's an anti vaccer? You never know.

1053
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. And I know, you know, this is

1054
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: so insane because you know, I still have a Facebook account.

1055
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

1056
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: I think it's because of Facebook marketplace, to be honest,

1057
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: because I used free That's the only thing I really

1058
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: use on Facebook. But I got this friend request from

1059
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: somebody that I knew from like a million years ago.

1060
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: And this happens random, like I'll get a friend request

1061
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: from somebody from middle school or something. Yeah, and I

1062
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: had this moment, and this has happened many times in

1063
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: the past, where I like looked at the person who

1064
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: fretted me, and I just like look at their profile photo.

1065
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: I like go to their Facebook page and see, like what,

1066
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: because I just want to know what's the vibe. Are

1067
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: you like a crazy right winger? Because if you are,

1068
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with your ass, Like I'll

1069
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: just ignore your friend request because I really just don't

1070
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: want you fucking up my timeline with all your weird shit.

1071
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: Do you ever do that? Yeah? Absolutely? I Mean Facebook

1072
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: is a real stinkle to go into and I'm on

1073
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: there pretty frequently because I'm on some groups for like

1074
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Minneapolis local groups that it's helpful there, but you know,

1075
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: a lot of it it's like I don't know, my

1076
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: mom posting something about like get ice out of many

1077
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: Minneapolis and then one of her Facebook friends being like,

1078
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: you're an idiot. Yeah, you know, it's like all that

1079
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: kind of stuff is on there all the time.

1080
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's like normally, like this is like

1081
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: during normal travels through Facebook, where I'm always seeing bad

1082
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: comments on it's like either you're it's like a friend

1083
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: of a friend or a friend of a family member.

1084
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, for me, if I can cut

1085
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: it off at the hilt and be like, is this

1086
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: person asking for my friendship? Is it going to aggravate me?

1087
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: Like because otherwise I don't want the aggravation, just like

1088
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't eat the smoke. I don't need you know.

1089
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: Your weird takes.

1090
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let me just like put you in Facebook

1091
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: Fred request purgatory until I can find out whether I

1092
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: think you might be okay.

1093
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: And you've been putting the black lodge of Facebook right And.

1094
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here going that's the kind of like paranoia

1095
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: we live in right now, is that we're just sort

1096
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: of like we just want to know.

1097
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: We want to know who you are and what you believe.

1098
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: In, because it's like if it's if it's gonna be

1099
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: a thing, if we're gonna have to fight all the time,

1100
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: I don't want that for myself.

1101
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: And you know it's sad.

1102
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: I know some kind of way, I suppose, but you know,

1103
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: after God, after the second time Trump got elected, I

1104
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: was like fuck it, Like this is just survival at

1105
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: this point, I ain't fucking with any of this, Like, sorry.

1106
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: Well, let me just wrap this up here. You know,

1107
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Mac and a few other guys who are left, they

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01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: plan to blow up the whole station so that the

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: creature has no chance of surviving. But I don't know

1110
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: where Wilford Brimley comes back and he starts sucking people up.

1111
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: He's an alien. He has some ways the last couple

1112
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: of guys and mutates into a giant creature. You know.

1113
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: They were setting up all this dynamite to blow up

1114
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: the station, and the Wilford Brimley creature sort of messes

1115
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: that up, but Mac throws a stick of dynamite in

1116
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: there and he blows the whole place up, effectively killing

1117
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: the creature, we think. But then Child's played by Keith David.

1118
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 2: He stows up out of nowhere. Where do you go?

1119
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: Where were you? He's like, oh, I was just over there,

1120
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: So it sort of seems like, are you an alien?

1121
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: But Kurt Russell's like, seems like he's kind of on

1122
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: the brink of death. And it's like freezing and there's

1123
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: no shelter. So they're like, well, it's just you're kind

1124
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: of unclear how it ends like either of them an alien?

1125
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: Is Child's an alien? They're just gonna hang out and

1126
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: drink some JMB till the sun comes home. I guess,

1127
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: so kind of a vague ending or you're like not

1128
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: sure which way it's gonna go, but it seems like

1129
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: they're both they're both goneers.

1130
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of love the ambiguity of the ending.

1131
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 2: The ambiguity. Yeah, nice. Really, No, do you have a theory? Uh?

1132
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they probably die just of natural causes.

1133
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, But do you think Child's is an alien?

1134
01:02:58,400 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so.

1135
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: Actually I don't either.

1136
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he is. I don't want him

1137
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: to be this because it's Keith David and I love

1138
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: Keith David so much, and I don't want him.

1139
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 2: To be an alien.

1140
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: But I I feel like what will happen to them

1141
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: is that they will not be rescued.

1142
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: They're gonna happen, Yeah, they don't.

1143
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: They don't get rescued because they can't radio out of

1144
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: there because of you know, earlier information you get and

1145
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I think that they probably just die of hypothermia, And

1146
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: apparently freezing.

1147
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: To death is one of the more pleasant ways to die,

1148
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: is it. You get kind of drowsy and you get

1149
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: all hot, and you kind of just fall asleep, comfy, cozy.

1150
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: Is that true?

1151
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why when they find people frozen to death,

1152
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 2: they're they're frequently naked because they get so warm. Oh

1153
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 2: so the body, like.

1154
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: What, believes that it's warm when it's actually cool?

1155
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, wow, there worst ways to go.

1156
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: But that would take forever, don't you think.

1157
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. That's interesting. Maybe they

1158
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: were cuddled up. They died in each other's arms. That's

1159
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: how I choose to be.

1160
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: That would be actually lovely. I would love that. Have

1161
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: ever seen that?

1162
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: Maybe Alive? From was it? Nineteen ninety three?

1163
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: About the Alive?

1164
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: I've never seen it, but I was looking into it

1165
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: in research for this movie.

1166
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that they ate each other at all?

1167
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: In a line in the thing? Well, would one of

1168
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: them have to have eaten the other one? I don't

1169
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: think they would have, because I think they would have

1170
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: been like after this then what.

1171
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: I think Mac is too proud to eat or be eaten.

1172
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I agree.

1173
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: He won't even wear scarf let alone. He was like,

1174
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a chunk out of your thigh or anything.

1175
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1176
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: I just think he's I liked cold Kurt Russell and

1177
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: this because he'd come back in and he'd they like

1178
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: threw some white powder on his face and he's like,

1179
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: it's like, let's freeze it out there, Like why did.

1180
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: You get a fucking you know, you need to get

1181
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: your like Stone Island giant, you know, five hundred dollars

1182
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: coat and just get get going here, buddy. So what

1183
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: do you think in conclusion? What are your takeaways from

1184
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: the thing?

1185
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: I like what you said about paranoia and how that

1186
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: can paranoia will destroy you. Paranoia will destroy you. But

1187
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: you know what, I also feel like nobody did anything

1188
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: like stupid. You know, when you're watching a horror movie

1189
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 2: and you're like, don't do that, you idiot. No one

1190
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: does anything like stupid. Like I understood every decision that

1191
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: they made in this movie, so I was. I enjoyed

1192
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: it in that regard, and they all acted quickly, but

1193
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: it was no use.

1194
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, part of like this is the type

1195
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: of thing where yeah, I mean they're really everybody loses

1196
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: because essentially it's like you're either actually an alien or

1197
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: somebody thinks you're an alien and kills you. There's no

1198
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: happy endings here, you know, And that's all it is,

1199
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: is that it takes just like this one seed to

1200
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: be planted and then that's it. Like we're all just

1201
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 1: dead at the end of the day. And I try

1202
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 1: not to think like this when I think about like

1203
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: current life, but it is like part of this movie

1204
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: that I think makes it. I think this movie is

1205
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: obviously a masterpiece. I think it's a masterpiece in many ways,

1206
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: the pacing of it, the production design, the cast, which

1207
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: I would argue the cast is not super famous, like

1208
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: Kurt Russell and Keith David probably being the most famous,

1209
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: with Wilfrid Brimley, Richard Meserve, but like for the most part,

1210
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are just kind of

1211
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: like there's no like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, like Ocean's

1212
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: eleven thing happening here. This is like, you know, a

1213
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: group of like character actors or guys are in the

1214
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: John Carpenter world and uh, you know, it all clicks

1215
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: in the place, like there's just so many things that

1216
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: make it a masterpiece. But I think that obviously the

1217
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: thing that makes it persist maybe in a long term way,

1218
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: is just the themes of it, of the idea that

1219
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of in an unwinnable war when

1220
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: you're in a situation like this, because you're basically either

1221
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: like again, going to be dead from some infection of

1222
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: some extraterrestrial kind, or somebody will think that you are

1223
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: and you can't. It's basically like whether or not you

1224
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: can prove it, and a lot of times paranoia and

1225
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: anger just win anyway, even if you try to feel it.

1226
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's just philosophical, is what I mean.

1227
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: People, Yeah, it persists. Yeah, I think that's good. Have

1228
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 2: you ever heard the Lil Wayne song Phone Home where

1229
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 2: he's like, we are not the same Miami and Alien.

1230
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Chulayne fan, even though I recently heard

1231
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: that he is maga or something.

1232
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 2: Right, Oh God, it's hard to keep drag him and

1233
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj their pals. Well are they both maga? Now?

1234
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: Well she is for sure.

1235
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, basically, somebody on TikTok was like who everybody

1236
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: affiliated with the young money is now like weirdly right wing.

1237
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 2: And I'm just like that is so bad. Yeah, please

1238
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: not not juvenile?

1239
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: Please yeah, I'm like, who is because I think clearly

1240
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: with like the big like Drake.

1241
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean, don't even talk about Drake.

1242
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: NICKI don't even talk about Nicky. You've got Tiger? Is

1243
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: he fine?

1244
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: Uh? Like what's going on with you know, little Twist?

1245
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1246
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm just a little Lloyd.

1247
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: Is Lloyd like good?

1248
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: I think Lloyd might be Okay, this is sad.

1249
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 2: It is sad. Well that was our chat about. I

1250
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: love the title of this movie, the thing. It's so good. Uh. Next,

1251
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk to my pal, our pal, Luce Tolman Brenner.

1252
01:09:50,400 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: So buckle up, all right, everybody. It is another installment

1253
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 2: of my area of expertise. And we have a dear,

1254
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 2: a very special guest today. It's my dear, dear friend.

1255
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: She's a comedian filmmaker. I produced one of her movies.

1256
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: She's the host of the podcast It's Always Halloween. She's

1257
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: a host of Video Visions at Video Tech in Los Angeles.

1258
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: She's a video store manager at Video Tech. Lusey Tomlin Brenner,

1259
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: Hi Lucy.

1260
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 6: Hello, thank you so much for having me on this

1261
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 6: fantastic podcast that I love so much.

1262
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh it's a dream. I'm so glad you're here. We

1263
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 2: want to We always try to get people who are

1264
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: like like our guests. We try to get like film

1265
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,679
Speaker 2: people or like people who are very obsessed with movies.

1266
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's how our our friendship blossomed. Absolutely.

1267
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: We met on another film podcast like this is.

1268
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 2: Which one. Yeah, LuSE was a guest on at the time.

1269
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 2: I think it was called Who Shot You, but it's

1270
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: now called Maximum Film. That's how I met you too. Yeah,

1271
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: that's how I met Millie so oh my god. Yes,

1272
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 2: all my all my friendships and social relations are because

1273
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: respond because of Maximum Film. But yeah I remember because

1274
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: Lusey lived near not to dos you, but you lived

1275
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: near the old Max Fun building. Yeah, I walked it

1276
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: and you were a guest on this show. And then

1277
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 2: I was walking down the street and then we passed

1278
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 2: each other and we both like stopped and like turned

1279
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: back and we're like, I know you, and then we

1280
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: started chatting for a while. And I feel like that's

1281
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 2: really where the friendship was born. Yeah, on the street.

1282
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had like such a good conversation. I think

1283
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 6: we ran into each other a couple of times like that.

1284
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny. It was like twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen.

1285
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 6: Maybe I think twenty eighteen because I was on the

1286
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 6: show like three or four times before the pandemic.

1287
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, before we get started, LuSE,

1288
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: can you talk about video visions a little bit, because

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Speaker 2: it's really a cool thing if you're in the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles area. Yes, that's comedy and film.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the two things that I am obsessed with and

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Speaker 6: won't ever stop talking about. I needed to combine them.

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Speaker 6: So I've managed Video Tech, which is one of the

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Speaker 6: last thriving video stores in the country and one of

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Speaker 6: like five in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 6: So we have over forty thousand titles there, which is

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Speaker 6: like twice as much as what's available streaming. And I

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Speaker 6: am constantly like my life's miss mission because this is

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Speaker 6: my fifth video store that I've worked at. The main

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Speaker 6: thing I've done in my life is worked at video stores.

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Speaker 4: And done stand up comedy.

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Speaker 6: And I've yeah, basically yeah, I've been very low income,

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Speaker 6: which is fine because I'm driving, I'm thriving creatively and

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Speaker 6: emotionally and I don't need to buy more shit.

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Speaker 4: It's fine, just fine. Financially is a hell whole Do

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Speaker 4: not ask me my as court. I haven't looked in

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Speaker 4: a long time.

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Speaker 6: But all that to say, I have been championing physical

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Speaker 6: media since my first store that I worked at in

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Speaker 6: like two thousand and one, and I was, you know,

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Speaker 6: there for the latter part of video stores lives, and

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Speaker 6: I could see what was happening because I worked at

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Speaker 6: them all through the two thousands, almost yeah, every year

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Speaker 6: of the two thousands, and so I was there for Netflix,

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Speaker 6: and I was there for people telling me that they

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Speaker 6: shouldn't have to pay late fees because Netflix doesn't have

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Speaker 6: late fees, and like trying to defend local business over corporations.

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Speaker 6: And it's very interesting after seeing people scream at me

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Speaker 6: for so long, people are finally coming back to like

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Speaker 6: physical media again. So I was like, how can I

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Speaker 6: get more people into the video store and see how

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Speaker 6: important physical media is?

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Speaker 4: And I was like a.

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Speaker 6: Comedy show, and so I do this show where I

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Speaker 6: get five to six comedians and I pick a theme

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Speaker 6: every single month, a film theme. This month, we had

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Speaker 6: our show last night for January was expressionist films, so

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Speaker 6: we did stuff from German expressionism in the twenties through

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Speaker 6: like sci fi futurism of the eighties. I pick six

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Speaker 6: surprise clips. The comedians, the audience don't know what they're

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Speaker 6: going to be, they just know the theme, and then

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Speaker 6: I show the clip to the comedian and the comedian

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Speaker 6: has to do eight to ten minutes of improvised stand

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Speaker 6: up on that film. So it's really fun. It's this

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Speaker 6: combination of all of my loves. And we bring in

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Speaker 6: a ton of comedians and a ton of people who

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Speaker 6: don't know about the video store, and they get to

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Speaker 6: be in this space and they get to see how

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Speaker 6: it's thriving, and it's not this like dusty old place

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Speaker 6: filled with old tapes, which listen, I love that could

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Speaker 6: describe my apartment essentially, but like, because I'm also a

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Speaker 6: VHS collector, but no, we've got everything, Blu Rays four

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Speaker 6: k's all the latest stuff, and we do have like

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Speaker 6: sixty vhs still available to rent, because there are still

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Speaker 6: fits films that have never been released on any other format.

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Speaker 6: And the whole point of places like video stores and

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 6: libraries and I mean these are essentially archives now because

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 6: of the way that these national corporations excuse me, have

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 6: monopolized their power. They just get to take things away.

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 6: You know, streaming services don't get a shit about our

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 6: access to art or cinema or knowledge. In fact, it's

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Speaker 6: better for them if we know less. So video stores

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Speaker 6: and libraries keep these titles available, and it's you know, yeah,

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 6: five dollars you know for a rental is maybe more

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Speaker 6: than ten dollars a month.

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Speaker 4: But you actually get to go in public and be

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Speaker 4: with people.

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Speaker 6: And talk about movies with real people, not just like

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Speaker 6: argue on X or letterboxed or like be like, huh,

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,759
Speaker 6: why is this sposed to have such a bad opinion

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Speaker 6: with film? Oh, I've been talking to a fifteen year

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 6: old this whole time, you know, Like I really just

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01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 6: want people to like like what they.

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Speaker 4: Like, to come in to fall in love with film.

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Speaker 6: The video stores these days are not these like bullying

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Speaker 6: places is where you come in and someone's going to

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Speaker 6: make fun of your taste because you're renting like life

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Speaker 6: size with Tyra Banks.

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Speaker 4: You know, like you don't make fun of anything that

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Speaker 4: people bring up.

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Speaker 6: I just want people to give a shit about movies

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Speaker 6: and small business and third spaces.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm not.

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Speaker 6: Going to drive anybody away unless they start fucking with

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Speaker 6: me first.

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Speaker 4: Don't step to me, and I won't step to you.

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Speaker 2: I love that, and I have never you know, you

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Speaker 2: started it after I moved, or like just around the

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Speaker 2: time when I moved, and so I've never been to

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Speaker 2: video visions and I really have to go.

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Speaker 4: We have to line it up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'd love to have you perform. You are

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Speaker 6: also your former comedian. I don't know how many people

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Speaker 6: know that.

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Speaker 2: But well, you know it's going to come up in

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Speaker 2: a We are going to do an episode at some

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Speaker 2: point of Bradley Cooper's is this thing on? And we

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Speaker 2: will discuss that bit.

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Speaker 6: And Gessie, if you're going to have one of your

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Speaker 6: best friends and you're going to have some secrets divulged.

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Speaker 2: Well Lucy, let's get into your area of expertise, and

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Speaker 2: you have many.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say after I just come of had

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Speaker 6: such a big ramble on videos.

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Speaker 4: Locked in so hard I blacked out.

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Speaker 2: No, it's great. So the the area of expertise that

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01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 2: you pitched is this is what you said, Women driven

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: to madness by an unkind or apathetic society can you

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: speak to that a little bit. How did this become

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01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: a trend that you noticed and maybe sought out? Where

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: did this, the seed of this you know, expertise start from.

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 6: Well, since we're talking about being pretentious, I have to

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01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 6: say it started when I started engaging with literature in

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01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 6: high school.

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it came.

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01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 4: From one of our great literary writers, Stephen King. Uh who.

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Speaker 4: Carrie was the first Stephen King book I ever read.

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Speaker 6: I read it at fourteen, the summer between eighth grade

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Speaker 6: and ninth grade, which is like so clutch. It's like

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01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 6: exactly when everyone should read Carrie, especially when.

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 4: They're a woman.

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Speaker 6: I've got my Carrie Whole Crossover t shirt Carrie Lived Today.

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01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:16,879
Speaker 1: That's awesome, right, yeah.

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 4: Because I lived through. This is also my favorite album.

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01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 4: So I was like when I saw this, I was like,

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01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 4: holy shit.

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01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 6: But all that to say, I read Carrie and I

1420
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 6: was like, oh my god, this I totally get this girl.

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01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 6: I had heard you know, that story is in the Mulu,

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 6: It's in the atmosphere. Everybody kind of knows the story

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01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 6: of Carrie, and I did not realize like what a

1424
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 6: sad story it was when I read it, and I

1425
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 6: was a bullied dean uh and just such an obvious weirdo.

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: My mom worked at our high school, and everybody like

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01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 6: was just like, oh my god, it's a teen you know.

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01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 6: Like I was just like everybody knew me when I

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 6: started high school, Like it just was like vibes, you know,

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Speaker 6: And I just really I really related.

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Speaker 4: To Carrie, and I was like, yeah, those people do

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01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 4: sort of deserve what happened to them in the book

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: that way too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I've been on I'm not calling anybody out.

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: I've been on other film podcasts before where they got

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: mad at me for that. They were like, you don't

1437
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: believe like all these people like died.

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah they were.

1439
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: They were trapped.

1440
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: They were trapped in like the school, Like you're condoning that.

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01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: And I'm like, in the context of this movie, how

1442
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: fucking yeah, yeah, are you kidding me? Like these are

1443
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: people who are pouring fucking blood on one of their

1444
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: students as yeah, and like did you not see the

1445
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: first five fucking minutes of this movie, like where they

1446
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: were throwing tampons at her, Like these are like mean people,

1447
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: They're not just like this goes beyond the pale of

1448
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: just like people you know, having a laugh.

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01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 2: These are mean.

1450
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: People who want to orchestrate shitty things, so yes, what's

1451
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: the problem. And they were just like, well, god, I

1452
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: can't believe that you would be Like I was like,

1453
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: should I even be on this podcast?

1454
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 2: What are we talking about? Do we want the same

1455
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: movie or what?

1456
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: So anyway, you should be cheering for Carrie.

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01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 6: Yes, people are telling on themselves because you're You're like, oh,

1458
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 6: were you a bully at some point in your life?

1459
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 6: And you don't like the idea of like any accountability

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01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 6: or repercussions.

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: See, I was bullied too, So maybe that's the key

1462
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: is that I'm like, no, if you were bullied, you

1463
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: can understand a character like Carrie to the degree which

1464
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: you will condone her killings, her psychic killings. But it's like,

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: my thing is like I just like, I feel like

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01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: it goes back to the thing that I think is

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Speaker 1: like the maybe the crux of your area of expertise,

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 1: which is that, you know, the whole idea that women

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01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: aren't allowed to have those types of even thoughts or

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: emotions or anything like that, where they're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: be vengeful, Yes, and even in the midst of their

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Speaker 1: own pain, right.

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Speaker 6: Exactly exactly, and I think that's why I found a lot.

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01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 6: So I related to carry and then I really got

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01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 6: because Stephen King has always talked about how much he

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01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 6: loves Shirley Jackson the writer and how inspirational her work

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Speaker 6: was to him.

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01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 4: And so I actually.

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01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 6: Started reading Shirley Jackson because of Stephen King, which thank god,

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01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 6: because you know, The Haunting of Hill House obviously a classic.

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 6: But I was really grasped by We Have Always Lived

1482
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 6: in the Castle, which I think is like the greatest

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01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 6: book ever written with the worst film adaptation, the absolute worst.

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Speaker 4: I hate.

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01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 6: The movie is bad, No one should watch it. It

1486
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 6: was it was made by the people in the town, not.

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Speaker 2: It's like they got not in the Castle.

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Speaker 6: Yet not in the Castle. They completely misunderstood. But these

1489
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 6: stories then led me to finding like you know, I

1490
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 6: watched The Haunting, the original Robert Wise one from nineteen

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Speaker 6: sixty three, and I was just so struck by it,

1492
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 6: even more like I loved the book, and then I

1493
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 6: watched the movie and I just loved seeing this woman,

1494
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 6: you know, melt down and like feel her feelings and

1495
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 6: like go insane. There's like a freedom to cinematic insanity.

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Speaker 6: Female insanity that I am very envious of. Like, yes, okay,

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Speaker 6: realistically speaking, it's a good thing to be medicated and

1498
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 6: to be in therapy and to try to not repeat

1499
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 6: cycles that you were raised with. But also sometimes I

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01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 6: just want to like stand naked in a crosswalk and

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01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 6: like scream.

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Speaker 4: You know, I just want to be like this is

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01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 4: not and like not be well you.

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: Know, now, Luce, it seems like if I may just

1505
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: sort of organize you know, some you said to her,

1506
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: some films here, you know that kind of express this

1507
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 2: feeling of woman driven demandness by an unkinder apathetic society.

1508
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: And I feel like you can divide them into kind

1509
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 2: of two categories, which is like the carry category, the violence,

1510
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 2: like the revenge type of movie where it's like Miss

1511
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: forty five Carrie. But then there's this also this other,

1512
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: this other uh type of insanity that you also expressed,

1513
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: which is like the others let's scare Jessica to death,

1514
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: the haunting, which is like these women are not necessarily

1515
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: getting violent revenge, but they are like becoming intimate with

1516
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:29,799
Speaker 2: ghoul basically. Like it's like that's like the other type

1517
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 2: of women driven to insanity. Uh, thee they're.

1518
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 6: Giving themselves over to it, which I really like too,

1519
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 6: because yeah, it's not just like I don't love every

1520
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 6: revenge fantasy. I'm actually not a big rape revenge watcher.

1521
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 6: But I do love Miss forty five, similar to Carrie,

1522
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 6: where I'm like, well, I'm kind of happy that she

1523
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,799
Speaker 6: made the decision she did at the end of the film,

1524
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 6: but yeah, I love Alucarda is another one. I love

1525
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 6: the just like I am being spoken to from the

1526
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 6: beyond and I have fought it for too long and

1527
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 6: now I Am just going to go with it. I

1528
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 6: Messiah of Evil is another one that I love that's

1529
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 6: like that, And it's like in these movies it a

1530
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 6: lot of the times it's like there either really is

1531
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 6: something nefarious and other worldly supernatural going on, or the

1532
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 6: fucking husband is trying to drive her insane.

1533
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 4: And I also relate.

1534
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 6: I relate to that type of like intimate partner violence

1535
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 6: as well of like, oh, this person actually does not

1536
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 6: want the best for me.

1537
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 4: And again it's that like in real life, you.

1538
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 6: Want to fight for your sanity. But I do just

1539
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,639
Speaker 6: love the idea of being like fun, you want me insane,

1540
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 6: I'll be insane.

1541
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 4: You said I'm crazy.

1542
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 6: I got your crazy to quote Britney Spears. But I

1543
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 6: love especially like what, oh, let's scare Jessica to death?

1544
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 6: That is like a movie where you're like, is this

1545
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 6: whole town vampires or ghouls or is horror? Or did

1546
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 6: her husband orchestrate this entire gaslighting so that she would

1547
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 6: go back to the mental institution. He could be free

1548
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 6: or have an affair or something and you're not ever

1549
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 6: quite sure what it is. But I love on the

1550
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 6: lead character. It's like there's so many great close ups

1551
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 6: on her. There's a lot of her own interiority. It's

1552
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 6: like a lot of her thoughts are narrating it and

1553
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 6: she is trying to figure out what's going on, and

1554
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 6: it's very dreamily shot.

1555
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 4: But also the way she speaks is like I woke

1556
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: up today and I went for a walk and I

1557
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 4: couldn't tell.

1558
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 6: If this was happening or if that was happening, And

1559
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 6: it has this like just her voiceover is haunting, and

1560
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 6: like you hear her get a little crazy, and I'm like, God,

1561
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 6: wouldn't it be so nice to just when someone's like,

1562
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 6: how are you doing today and you're like, I don't know.

1563
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 6: I got up and I couldn't tell it was real, Like,

1564
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 6: that's like the person I wanted be. But then I

1565
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 6: also want to have like a moderately successful career in entertainment.

1566
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 4: And you cannot talk to la people like that just.

1567
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,560
Speaker 2: To drift through a field. Yeah, no, I god, I would.

1568
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 6: Love to drift through a field in a gauzy white nightgown,

1569
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 6: ideally holding a candel opera.

1570
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Not sure those types of movies to it. There's something

1571
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 2: about the house too, yeah, like the house, yeah yeah,

1572
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: And it's almost like, you know, these women are like

1573
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: trapped in the house, and it's almost like they're they're like, Okay,

1574
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 2: I'm trapped in the house. I'm going to go deep

1575
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: into the house, like the soul of the house, and

1576
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: the soul of the house speaks back. There's something about

1577
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: like going becoming like even more like intimate with this

1578
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: this place, right, you know, and it's speaking back to them.

1579
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 6: It's such a great point, Casey, I'm so happy you

1580
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 6: said that, because also what is the house? You know,

1581
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 6: it is the site of domesticity, is the domain of women,

1582
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 6: Especially when you think about a lot of these movies

1583
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 6: being made in the seventies the early seventies, it aligns

1584
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 6: with the civil rights movement and with the with the

1585
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 6: the er the fight for the ra and women's rights

1586
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 6: as well. So like there's a lot of cultural exploration

1587
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 6: in here. And it's like when you think about Shirley Jackson,

1588
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 6: you know, writing these novels in the mid century, I mean,

1589
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 6: this was her grappling with being a smart, intellectual, curious

1590
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 6: woman in a society that didn't want that from her.

1591
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 6: So it's like this wasn't just an intellectual exercise, this

1592
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 6: is really a woman being driven crazy. And then we also,

1593
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 6: you know, get the impression that she was gay or

1594
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 6: queer and but was forced into this domestic life with

1595
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 6: having children and the husband because that is what she

1596
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 6: had to do in the mid century, you know. So

1597
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 6: it's like this is these books are like truly coming

1598
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 6: out of her psyche.

1599
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 4: The women are trapped in the house in.

1600
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 6: These movies because women were trapped in the house, you know,

1601
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 6: for the first seventy years of the nineteenth century or

1602
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 6: the twentieth century. So there's a lot there. Even if

1603
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 6: these movies are heightened and they're supernatural and they're not.

1604
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 6: I mean, something I love about them is like there's

1605
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 6: so much to read into it without it being like

1606
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 6: a head heavy handed message. And right now we're sort

1607
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 6: of trapped in message cinema, which is driving me fucking nuts.

1608
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 6: Even though a lot of these messages are things that

1609
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 6: I agree with. I'm like, yes, but I don't like

1610
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 6: being hit over the head or being like you should

1611
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 6: be kind, Like I don't want to fucking hear that

1612
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 6: shit from people.

1613
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 4: I No.

1614
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to like just pick up like a little

1615
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 1: thing that you dropped a little bit ago about the

1616
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: idea of maybe they're being this like boom or like

1617
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: a proliferation of these movies that are happening in this

1618
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,520
Speaker 1: like time period of like maybe late sixties to the seventies,

1619
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: and how it ties to, you know, the women's movement

1620
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: and things, because I see it in so many different

1621
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: angles when you look look across the board at movies

1622
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 1: from this time period that are about women, female characters.

1623
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: You're right, it's like the Rosemaries, babies, you know, talking

1624
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: about pregnancy. You've got you know, movies like Brood even

1625
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: later in the seventies, stuff about like you know, mental

1626
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 1: illness age. A lot of like those grond don gui

1627
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 1: y'all movies coming out in this era about older women.

1628
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: I personally love this crazy movie called Criminally Insane. I

1629
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: think I've talked about this.

1630
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Many many times.

1631
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: The title it's a oh my god, it's like a

1632
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: I wrote a paper on it in grad school. That's

1633
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 1: how much I love this movie. It's this very like

1634
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: Nick Millard grade Z like exploitation movie about a killer

1635
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:51,839
Speaker 1: fat lady basically and how she just like can't stop

1636
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: like people. She kills people who don't allow her to

1637
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: eat or whatever. And it's like the concept of it

1638
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: is so absurd, but I have gone in and like

1639
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: written like pages upon pagess pages of like analysis about

1640
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: this being this like seventies secret seventies feminists like tale.

1641
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: And it's like it's like.

1642
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: The Honeymoon Killers that I use that movie too as

1643
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: a good example of this of the ideas of like

1644
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: women like women kind of like getting out of these

1645
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: like old narratives of like being too old, being too fat,

1646
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: being too ugly, you know, needing to be pregnant, meaning

1647
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: to be sane and a mother, and you know, like

1648
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: basically the patriarchy, right, And I'm like, this period of

1649
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: time is obviously happening in this political period of time,

1650
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, so now we're shifting to this

1651
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: new era where pretty much the same shit is happening.

1652
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 2: Where are these movies?

1653
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I was like, how come there's not like twenty Rosemary's Babies,

1654
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: And how come there's not twenty like Criminally Insanes or anything.

1655
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: And so I'm just curious what you think about that,

1656
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: if there's any kind of like do you see like

1657
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: in newer films, like a return to this kind of

1658
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: era at all.

1659
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 6: I guess there's a little bit right, like, we've got

1660
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, how do you pronounce her name, Coraline

1661
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 6: p Who you know? Oh my god, I'm a reader.

1662
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 6: I don't always know how to pronounce things.

1663
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,520
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, so we've been like Director of the Substance.

1664
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:35,640
Speaker 6: Substance and Revenge, you know, so like, but both of

1665
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 6: those movies are pulling so hard from stuff that's already

1666
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 6: been made in the seventies.

1667
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: And the eighties.

1668
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 6: I am really desperate to see something that feels really new.

1669
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 6: There's been a few versions of Rosemary's Baby made in

1670
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 6: the last few years. One of the girls from Broad

1671
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 6: City did a very similar movie to that. Again, I'm

1672
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 6: blanking on the name of it. There is a really

1673
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 6: great movie that I'm obsessed with that's like a comedy

1674
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 6: called Greener Grass that.

1675
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that movie so good.

1676
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 6: It was so inspirational to me when I made my

1677
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 6: last movie with Casey Surprise. But it explores like the

1678
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 6: oppression of domesticity and the suburbs and that you know,

1679
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 6: feeling for grasping to be better than people all the time,

1680
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 6: and and like money issues and beauty issues. But it

1681
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 6: is so John Waters gross out over the top. And

1682
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 6: that's a movie not a lot of people have heard

1683
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 6: about or saw. And again it's because I think it's

1684
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:42,559
Speaker 6: very nuanced, even though it's very like absurdist, but it

1685
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 6: isn't trying to. I do feel like movies like the substance,

1686
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 6: it's just very obvious, and I don't know, I feel

1687
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,719
Speaker 6: like this is all off the top.

1688
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 4: I feel like it's because we live in a time.

1689
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 6: When the studio system is like has a grip on everybody.

1690
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 4: It's so hard to get movies funded.

1691
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 6: There's so much going on in the DIY scene that

1692
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 6: I work in, and like really low budget indies, you know,

1693
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 6: and great indie companies of course, like Neon and A

1694
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 6: twenty four, but even that like only a few things

1695
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 6: get through, you know, like it's hard for Kelly wrightcart

1696
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:21,440
Speaker 6: to make a film, and she's like a fucking genius.

1697
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 4: So when you're pitching something that is not, I don't know.

1698
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 6: A reliable formula, or it feels like now everything has

1699
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 6: to be like this is like Rosemary's Baby, but everyone's

1700
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 6: a werewolf, you know, like yeah, or.

1701
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 1: Like everybody is a witch from the sixteenth century or

1702
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: something like that, Like, yeah, there isn't that like like

1703
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: the idea of letting like because when you talked about

1704
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Left Scared Jess kind of death and stuff like that,

1705
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: like I was like, Oh, it wouldn't it be so

1706
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: awesome to have like this really glacially based, atmospheric candelabra

1707
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 1: running through the Running through the Forest, feminist movie about

1708
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: revenge and psychosis.

1709
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,559
Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to.

1710
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Be you know, that kind of standard I guess for

1711
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 1: black for better term a twenty four look.

1712
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: But it doesn't also have to be.

1713
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: The substance, which is just like so obvious and you.

1714
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 4: Know, really finalized.

1715
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's somewhere in the middle that can happen. I

1716
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: guarantee it. I don't know, I.

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01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 4: Will say I did One of my favorite films of

1718
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 4: the year was Die My Love.

1719
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't seen it, I do.

1720
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 4: Really recommend it.

1721
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 6: And Lynn Ramsey directed it, and she's obviously fantastic and

1722
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 6: has done some great crazy women films.

1723
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 4: I really love. Oh my God, the Christmas movie Morvan Coller.

1724
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it is a really great woman Losing It.

1725
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 2: It is a Christmas movie. Seriously. Yeah.

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01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 6: You know, here, here's something I think is difficult about

1727
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 6: now that has more to do with culture than it

1728
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 6: has to do with I don't know the system or

1729
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 6: money or whatever, but like we it is very people

1730
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 6: are really being challenged by living through a fascist regime,

1731
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 6: which makes sense. But we're moving in this way because

1732
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 6: we're being surveilled in a way that wasn't the same

1733
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 6: maybe like you know, eighty ninety years ago, where like

1734
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 6: everyone has to perform not being a fascist more than

1735
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 6: they actually have to do the work of fighting fascism.

1736
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 6: And so there's this really big concern about being a

1737
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 6: good person left of center. You have to be good,

1738
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 6: you have to be kind anything that if you're not

1739
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 6: being good in every moment, you're a fascist, you know,

1740
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 6: And it's like that's not that's we don't have a

1741
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 6: lot of space for again, nuance and a lot of

1742
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 6: like you can not be a boot licker and make

1743
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 6: bad personal choices, or you can be like a bitch

1744
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 6: to your friends or your partner and still not be

1745
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 6: a mess a mega supporter. But there is just this

1746
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 6: like be kind mpr topee liberal idea of feel free

1747
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 6: to cut any of this, but like this is incredible,

1748
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 6: be kind of a bag idea of like, well, if

1749
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 6: you're not being nice, you are.

1750
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 4: The bad guy.

1751
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 6: The like when they go high, when they go low,

1752
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 6: we go high, you know, And it's like that is

1753
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 6: horrible for film. Art is not We're not just making

1754
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 6: morality plays Like art is not moral. You cannot look

1755
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 6: at art and be like good and bad like that

1756
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 6: is not the point. Characters and people have a lot

1757
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 6: of depth to them. You can fight fascism and still

1758
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 6: be like a generalized asshole that is okay. And I

1759
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 6: don't think there's a lot of room for people to

1760
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 6: be assholes anymore. And I think a lot of the

1761
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 6: left is very concerned with being a good boy, being

1762
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 6: a good girl, doing things the right way, and it's like, no,

1763
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 6: I want to be a little bit of a personal

1764
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 6: failure and still be very clear that I'm not a

1765
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 6: fucking boot liquor, you know, like I want to be

1766
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 6: a fut We're going to be a good person.

1767
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 1: It's like going back to the whole like reinterpretation of

1768
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,840
Speaker 1: a movie like Carrie, where now we don't feel sorry

1769
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: for her shitty fucking classmates. It's like that's exactly a beig.

1770
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: Like wait a minute, Like.

1771
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 4: Wen't fight violence with violence. We can't destroy a Starbucks.

1772
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 4: We have to accumulate them.

1773
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: Mean to people who brutalize you. I'm like, holy shit,

1774
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: Like you're so right about this.

1775
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously this is a large cultural issue,

1776
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 6: but this is affecting art in.

1777
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 4: A really negative way. You know.

1778
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 6: It's interesting that you bring that up about Carrie because

1779
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 6: I was recently on a podcast that I was brought

1780
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 6: on to do to talk about ghost World. We were

1781
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 6: talking about like you're supposed to be talking about your

1782
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 6: favorite movies, and ghost World is like my all time

1783
01:37:49,040 --> 01:37:52,719
Speaker 6: favorite movie. Emotionally, it means a lot to me because

1784
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:53,879
Speaker 6: I am those girls.

1785
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 4: I was those girls.

1786
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 6: When that movie came out and so, and the whole

1787
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:59,679
Speaker 6: point was to talk about a movie that meant something

1788
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 6: to you. Emotionally, and the other guest had never seen

1789
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 6: the movie before, and it was like, oh, I have

1790
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,160
Speaker 6: a conversation with two people, one who loves it, one

1791
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 6: who just saw it, and the other guest was like,

1792
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 6: I couldn't get into it.

1793
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 4: Those girls were just.

1794
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 7: So mean, And I was like, you brought on one

1795
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 7: of the people that the reason these girls are upset,

1796
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 7: Like I was like, oh, no, baby, were popular in

1797
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 7: high school.

1798
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 2: That sucks, And.

1799
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I could go off on this ship

1800
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: for hours.

1801
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you and I are lies.

1802
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I only want to hang out with outsiders,

1803
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,919
Speaker 6: like no more poser violence.

1804
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 4: I can't I handle these people.

1805
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I could go off on the

1806
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: idea that were like like modern society has no use

1807
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 1: for subculture and how people are authentically punk rock and

1808
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: how like all these people are just like cosplaying, you know,

1809
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, basic. Yeah, And so I'm just like that's

1810
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,600
Speaker 1: why thor Birch and Ghost World is mean. Now, Whereas

1811
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: when I saw that movie, I was like this, this

1812
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: woman is expressing every single feeling I've ever had about

1813
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: any of these people. And by the way, it's not

1814
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 1: even just towards like whomever the waiter at Wollsville. But

1815
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: it's also like the fucking punk rock guy at the

1816
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: record the comic book shop.

1817
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 4: It's like shop I know when she goes.

1818
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 6: Everyone's too stupid, like the way they say that almost

1819
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:40,759
Speaker 6: every day. Like this is a movie about seeing through

1820
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 6: fake artists. You know, it was satirizing in art world

1821
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 6: because it's based on a comic book, you know what

1822
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 6: I mean? Like Daniel Close wrote about his own experience

1823
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 6: being told that his art and that comics weren't valuable

1824
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 6: and weren't actual art.

1825
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,120
Speaker 4: Like we are literally still.

1826
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 6: Having this battle on this podcast where they keep telling

1827
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 6: me how dated the movie is, and I was like this,

1828
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 6: the story of ghost World is so evergreen. Well I'm

1829
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 6: literally and I was just like, oh my god, I

1830
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 6: am in ghost World right now.

1831
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 2: Neither of you are allowed to go on another podcasts.

1832
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: Never are these.

1833
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: People are having us on podcasts. But that's the thing,

1834
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: is a fucking read is a real Like that's the

1835
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: thing is that like that movie is all about you know,

1836
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: to me, the technique that I don't know people of

1837
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 1: my age and people before us use, which is that

1838
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: like you have to you're smarter than the people who

1839
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: are bullying you. And you have to remember that. And

1840
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 1: if there's an opportunity for you to read them to

1841
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: fucking filth.

1842
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 2: Yes, then take it, you know.

1843
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:53,919
Speaker 1: And now that is considered me mean so so protection

1844
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: against I don't know people like punching up is now

1845
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: or punching down? Wait up is now mean? And I'm like,

1846
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that. Fuck that Swift. I'm not

1847
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: feeling sorry for all these millionaires. I'm not feeling sorry

1848
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 1: for fucking you know whomever, people who are extremely cruel

1849
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: because you know, we have to stay nice. Fuck that ship.

1850
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me.

1851
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 6: No, the boot's not gonna leave my neck because I'm

1852
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 6: listening at like, no, I'm no, it aligns with bascism

1853
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 6: to say that you should be nice to people who

1854
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 6: are being mean to you.

1855
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I swear we're gonna have to cut

1856
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: cut me out of this entire episode because I enough.

1857
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1858
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 4: It's just Kasey talking to no one else.

1859
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: It's just like breathing.

1860
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 4: I get an email to Marlin's like, we only have

1861
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 4: five minutes that we can use.

1862
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1863
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 6: Like this goes out at the end and we're all like,

1864
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 6: I'm on the streets it's factivated.

1865
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, Lusey, this is incredible. Thank you for being on

1866
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,840
Speaker 2: the show. You want to plug other than what we've

1867
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 2: talked about already. Can people watch some Surprise online right now?

1868
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 4: You know I need to get online. We should have

1869
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 4: a meeting about it.

1870
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 6: Because I get I get warmed by the business aspect,

1871
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 6: which is why I feel like I.

1872
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 4: Haven't been more monetarily successful.

1873
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 6: People who love my attitude, but I have a hard

1874
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 6: time turning it into money.

1875
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 2: I think that's Lucy. Maybe that's why I became friends

1876
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 2: because in that specific way, I think you and I

1877
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 2: are both kind of stupid. I have a hard time

1878
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: with the business stuff. I feel like I'm like, I

1879
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 2: don't know how to.

1880
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 4: Do it, and so things are where to pitch stuff.

1881
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, Lusey wrote and directed a great movie

1882
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 2: that I helped produce, and we'll get it online at

1883
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: some point. But yeah, And people should listen to It's

1884
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:58,919
Speaker 2: Always Halloween.

1885
01:42:59,000 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 4: Yes they should.

1886
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 6: It's community driven all year long Halloween podcasts where people

1887
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,599
Speaker 6: share their own history and memories, and I weave that

1888
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 6: into original research that I do about the history of

1889
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 6: not just Halloween, but icons of Halloween, like skeletons and

1890
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 6: spiders and Friday the Thirteenth and witches and like how

1891
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 6: did we get here? Essentially, I took a little break

1892
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 6: this last year dealing with some the reef and depression

1893
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:29,520
Speaker 6: is if you can't.

1894
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 4: Tell, I've got some mental illnesses. But I am coming

1895
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 4: back online.

1896
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 6: I have five years of episodes, so I took a

1897
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 6: little break recently, but the podcast is going to come back.

1898
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:42,680
Speaker 6: And yeah, you can come to Video Visions on the

1899
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 6: last Thursday of every month at Video Tech Video Storet's

1900
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:50,840
Speaker 6: open every single day eleven to ten pm. And yeah,

1901
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 6: I do stand up all over town. Sometimes I travel

1902
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 6: and do it, and you can follow me and get

1903
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 6: all those updates at LTB Comedy on instag Graham, I

1904
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 6: think that's everything. I want to make a new movie

1905
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:09,679
Speaker 6: this year, so stand by. Hopefully that'll happen more Crazy

1906
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,520
Speaker 6: Women content, like I am making.

1907
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 4: It so.

1908
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Doing the work. I love it absolutely well. Lucy, you're

1909
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 2: one of my dearest friends. Was so great, have any

1910
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 2: love you so much?

1911
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 4: So happy we finally got to meet officially.

1912
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,719
Speaker 2: You're a delight, You're an absolute joy.

1913
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 1: Obviously we're not besties too, so this is great.

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01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're meant to be friends. So happy to be here.

1915
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:35,960
Speaker 6: And thanks for this fantastic podcast. We really need it.

1916
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 6: You guys are putting out smart joy into the world,

1917
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 6: so thank you.

1918
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: All Right, that was a lovely chat with Lucy. Great

1919
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 2: to talk to her.

1920
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: She's great, love Lucy, She's so good, so good fast friend.

1921
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Immediately I was like, I like her. I like this one.

1922
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 2: That was fun. That's she's a real she's a real

1923
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 2: film freak. She's a real one. Uh all right, now

1924
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 2: it's time for film recommendations or employees picks MILLI what

1925
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 2: do you got? Uh?

1926
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: Here, it is here, it is here, it is Well,

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01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 1: I figured, why not go for something that also takes

1928
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: place in a closed environment and a bunker with a

1929
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: unknown enemy. I'm picking George Ramiro's Day of the Dead from.

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01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty five.

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01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: Nice, can you imagine? Okay, you don't know this, maybe

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Speaker 1: because have you spent a lot of time in Florida.

1933
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Speaker 2: I have spent very little time in Florida. Now, okay, so.

1934
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Speaker 1: Talking about a bunker uh in Antarctica. In Day of

1935
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Speaker 1: the Dead, the bunker is in the Everglades in Florida. Ooh,

1936
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Speaker 1: which is insanely hot. It's the complete opposite environment. And

1937
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Speaker 1: I kept thinking to myself, Damn, I don't know if

1938
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Speaker 1: I could be stuck in a bunker in the ever Glance,

1939
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: that would be so steamish. You'd be if you were

1940
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Speaker 1: Kurt Russell, you'd be whearing your like, you know, men's

1941
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Speaker 1: bikini briefs and nothing else right around in the hell

1942
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Speaker 1: in the helicopters and stuff.

1943
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Speaker 2: Shit. You know, I've never seen Day of the Dead.

1944
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Speaker 1: Oh, really, you'd like it.

1945
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Speaker 2: I've only seen Night of the Living Dead and Dawn

1946
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Speaker 2: of the Dead. Yeah, and Return of the Living Dead,

1947
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Speaker 2: which is different obviously, but I've never seen Day of

1948
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Speaker 2: the Dead.

1949
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Speaker 1: You should watch it, in fact, ask Tricia. Probably seen it?

1950
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Speaker 2: No, oh, she's probably. Yeah, definitely go and see it.

1951
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Speaker 1: Go and see it. It's good, very good.

1952
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Speaker 2: I am going to recommend a movie I think I've

1953
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Speaker 2: talked about on the show previously. I watched it this year.

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Speaker 2: But it's called Wolf's Whole. It's a weird name, Wolf's Whole.

1955
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Speaker 1: Okay, you've picked ice work consistently for the past couple

1956
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 1: of weeks, like really punchy two word film wreck title.

1957
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Speaker 2: Bone Lake, Wolf's Hole.

1958
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Speaker 1: Didn't you wasn't it? What was the other one. It

1959
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: was like like something else because we we tooled on

1960
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Speaker 1: it and I can't remember what it was. It was

1961
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Speaker 1: like a Coachella.

1962
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Speaker 2: Man, well we talked about miss Duos from the Longest Yard.

1963
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Speaker 2: I trying to blank blank you know, first Cow, First Cow.

1964
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Speaker 2: Wolf's Whole. This is directed by Vera Cheatlova, a check filmmaker.

1965
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Speaker 2: She's probably most famous for nineteen sixty six's Daisies Us.

1966
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Speaker 2: But Wolf's Hole is it's I think it's on the

1967
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: Greeterion channel right now. But it is about this like

1968
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Speaker 2: group of high school students who get a mysterious invitation

1969
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Speaker 2: to this ski school up in a mountain, and they like,

1970
01:48:22,880 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 2: it's so funny because the parents are like, ooh, a

1971
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Speaker 2: free a free ski trip that's mysteriously sent to my child. Yes,

1972
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:35,559
Speaker 2: please go, yes, And so they like are led by

1973
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 2: these people who are like, yes, we're we're in charge

1974
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Speaker 2: of the trip to Wolf's Hole. And they stay and

1975
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: they go up on the mountain and they come to

1976
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Speaker 2: this like shitty lodge. It's like disgusting and like broken down,

1977
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: and it turns out these people who sent out the

1978
01:48:55,800 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 2: invitation are aliens and they're here to do stuff to

1979
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Speaker 2: these high school students. So it's kind of creepy. It's scary,

1980
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Speaker 2: and they're trapped and it seems very cold, like it

1981
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 2: seems like, you know, and the thing, I'm sure they

1982
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Speaker 2: were all actually pretty comfortable filming that, you know, but

1983
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Speaker 2: in Wolf's Hole, it seemed like they were actually just

1984
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 2: outside in on a mountain for like days at a time.

1985
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Speaker 2: It seemed miserable. So but it's kind of scary and spooky.

1986
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Speaker 2: Reminded me of Under the Skin, the Jonathan Glazer movie. Yeah, yeah,

1987
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Speaker 2: uh check that out. Wolf's Hole, Bone Lake, Dogs too, dick.

1988
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Speaker 2: I don't know dogs, dick. Uh, maybe that's our show,

1989
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Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1990
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well listen. If you would like a

1991
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Speaker 1: film recommendation, if you need some film advice, if you've

1992
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Speaker 1: got a film gripe, if you've got to film consensual grop,

1993
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Speaker 1: if you've got to film regret, please email us at

1994
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1995
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Speaker 1: we're looking for listener stories on going on dates to

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Speaker 1: the movie theater. Now that's either bad or good. Bad

1997
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Speaker 1: dates or good dates. But if you have a movie

1998
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1999
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Speaker 1: and make it under two minutes please, so we could

2000
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Speaker 1: actually air it, but record a voicemail and send it

2001
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Speaker 1: to Deer Movies at exactly Rightmedia dot com.

2002
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Speaker 2: U that's correct, Yeah, and yeah, I think that's it.

2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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Speaker 2: And you can also follow LuSE on letterbox. You can

2007
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2008
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2009
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2010
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2011
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Speaker 2: and rate and review our show. Milly, what are we

2012
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Speaker 2: watching next week?

2013
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna watch a movie that came out in

2014
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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, which doesn't seem like that long ago, but

2015
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Speaker 1: it's actually a long time ago.

2016
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Speaker 2: Oh, it feels like a distant time.

2017
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Speaker 1: Over a decade ago. And that movie is Spike Jones's her.

2018
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Speaker 1: We'll be talking about artificial intelligence a little bit.

2019
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Speaker 2: Perhaps, I know that.

2020
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Speaker 1: Could be annoying too, but it could be actually really

2021
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Speaker 1: fun hearing us talk about it, especially the context of

2022
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Speaker 1: this film, which a lot of people say is like

2023
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Speaker 1: kind of a prophetic little film.

2024
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Speaker 2: It seems like it, doesn't it. But at the time

2025
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Speaker 2: it was like, ooh, what a weird concept. It felt

2026
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Speaker 2: like way out there. And now we're here.

2027
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Speaker 1: We did it, we did it, we made it happen.

2028
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Speaker 1: Thank you Spike Jones for your foresight. And honestly, I

2029
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Speaker 1: haven't seen this movie since it came out, and I'm like,

2030
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Speaker 1: now knowing what we know, I mean, I'm like, oh,

2031
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Speaker 1: I got to watch this again.

2032
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is it'll be interesting. Also, that was

2033
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Speaker 2: the last movie that Spike Jones made. Isn't that crazy?

2034
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Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like he should have made a couple

2035
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Speaker 2: more movies since then. I think he's great. Yeah, I know.

2036
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Speaker 1: There's like new Jackass stuff happening, so maybe he's been.

2037
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Speaker 2: He was involved with Vice two. But anyways, I'm excited

2038
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Speaker 2: to see it, excited to talk about it me too.

2039
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Speaker 1: Well, Casey, thank you so much for and being on

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Speaker 1: this cold adventure with me this week. Thank you, Millie,

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Speaker 1: Stay warm everyone, Bye bye. This has been an exactly

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Speaker 1: right production hosted by me Milli to Cherico and produced

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Speaker 1: by my co host Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogal. Our associate producer

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Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cottner, and

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Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in

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Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie to Jericho, we love you.

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Speaker 5: Goodbye Beker