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Speaker 1: doing other important things as always. Um, but how are

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Speaker 1: I my headphones are on the fritz. I'm just making sure.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm awesome, but as awesome as you could be.

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Speaker 1: You know, after spending a week in Hawaii and I

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Speaker 1: kept back here, relaxed, ready to go, ready to pay

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Speaker 1: for the draft, knock out this draft, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're at that point in the draft where it's just

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Speaker 1: especially on our staff, because we start this thing early.

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Speaker 1: We started it early, as we've ever done it in

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Speaker 1: like December in November, but um, you know you're at

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Speaker 1: the point where like it's still nothing happens other than

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Speaker 1: like nothing has really happened. It's still like right here,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like what if they trade Michael Gallop

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Speaker 1: you don't even know, well these don't have quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 1: interesting thing, by the way, I was. I was kind

439
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Speaker 1: of a part of this a little bit and what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. And everybody loves to be right. Everyone loves

441
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Speaker 1: to pick stuff. We do it. We have our own

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Speaker 1: mock drafts and that we do. And uh so fans

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Speaker 1: can can put in there. They can put u they

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Speaker 1: can try to get all ten of them right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you can, and they can get you. There's different strategies

446
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Speaker 1: you could do. You could try to get the seventh

447
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Speaker 1: round pick right, or you can just say I'm taking

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Speaker 1: all ten of these guys and put them on my

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Speaker 1: list and if if I get some points I'll get

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Speaker 1: I'll get some points out of it. I'm gonna get

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Speaker 1: something right. So it'll be fun to do that. They

452
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Speaker 1: did it last year with some season ticket holders and

453
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Speaker 1: it went really well. So now they're open it up

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Speaker 1: to everyone. So Draft Pick Challenge. Can we do it?

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Speaker 1: I think so? I mean, you can do it, but

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Speaker 1: Journey half season tickets because you're going to be at

457
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Speaker 1: the game. So I don't know if you'd you'd be eligible,

458
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, you could definitely do it. In fact, we should,

459
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: we should play along. All right, Well, last week we

460
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Speaker 1: did not get that fire. We just got through the

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen draft. We went through those picks and then

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Speaker 1: we started the twenty seventeen draft and just got to

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Speaker 1: talk about Taco Charlton. Other than that, we didn't get

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Speaker 1: that much further down. So let's start off with the

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Speaker 1: second round pick, which was ch w Blouisier and whether

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Speaker 1: or not we didn't talk about him last week. Right now, Okay,

467
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Speaker 1: did he exceed met or was below expectations? That's really

468
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Speaker 1: and that a bunch of conversations happened about that when

469
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Speaker 1: he left for Cincinnati. I think it's I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say he didn't meet them, But I also

471
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: think it's it's harsh to say that he was like

472
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Speaker 1: a bust of a pick, you know, like he's right

473
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Speaker 1: there where he started for four years. Um, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: he had some injury issues. I think he was fine.

475
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Speaker 1: You know, people give him a hard time. It seemed

476
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Speaker 1: like he got picked on at times, but his coverage

477
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Speaker 1: was he you know what, what was it like almost

478
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Speaker 1: Anthony Spencer's He's almost almost almost a woozier because he

479
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: was a fraction of a fingertip away from batting down

480
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: so many balls that were eventually completed. Um, I feel

481
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Speaker 1: mean killing the guy, but I think probably just just

482
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Speaker 1: below the three levels that we put on here right me,

483
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Speaker 1: expectations above and below. There's two more extremes. One is

484
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Speaker 1: phenomenal pick and then yeah, and so he's he's he

485
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Speaker 1: was below expectations because you drafted the guy in the

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Speaker 1: second round. Um, you think he's going to be here

487
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Speaker 1: and have a chance to maybe you know, make make

488
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Speaker 1: make a Pro Bowl maybe you know. And he you know,

489
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Speaker 1: he plays four years, played out his contract and then

490
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Speaker 1: he went to another team. That he's a pick. You

491
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Speaker 1: expect more than that. But he wasn't a bust. I mean,

492
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Speaker 1: he played, and he is a pick. He's not a

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Speaker 1: great pick, he's not a bad pick. He's just he's

494
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Speaker 1: a big He was a pick. And then another guy

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Speaker 1: that tends to be talked about when you mentioned Cheeto

496
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Speaker 1: is Jordan Lewis because he was picked in the third

497
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Speaker 1: round and he's also a player that plays the same position.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys think about him? Well, his situation

499
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Speaker 1: is a little different too because of how of what

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Speaker 1: happened when they drafted him. You gotta remember and it

501
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: feels like forever ago. But when they drafted him, you know,

502
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: he had some legal issues still pending, and the Cowboys

503
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Speaker 1: did their homework on him and said, we feel confident

504
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Speaker 1: that whatever he's being accused of, it's gonna his name

505
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Speaker 1: will be cleared. We love the kind of guy that

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Speaker 1: he is, and they took a chance on him, and

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Speaker 1: they were right. They were right on him, and he's

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Speaker 1: one of I mean, you ask anybody that covers the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys who their favorite players are. Jordan Lewis is gonna

510
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Speaker 1: be on everyone's He's just awesome. But but he makes

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Speaker 1: plays too. So to me, he exceeded expectations because when

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Speaker 1: when he drafted him, you're like, I just hope he

513
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Speaker 1: gets on the field. I hope you can do. So

514
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Speaker 1: he signed a second contract. He's considered one of their

515
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Speaker 1: better playmakers. So in my opinion, I think he has

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Speaker 1: actually exceeded the expectations because they were a little bit

517
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Speaker 1: different coming in. It's tricky and I again going back

518
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Speaker 1: to the Cheetoh thing. I had a had a I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna call it an argument, but a healthy debate

520
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Speaker 1: with Marcus Moser, who does a really good job covering

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Speaker 1: the draft and the team. And you know, I've I've

522
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Speaker 1: said this a million times, like top one hundred picked,

523
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Speaker 1: the expectations are a certain level, and like you look

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Speaker 1: at Jordan Lewis and you're like, twenty six starts, twenty

525
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Speaker 1: six starts in four seasons, Like, my expectations are little

526
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Speaker 1: bit higher. But having said that, and the reason I

527
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Speaker 1: brought this up is, you know, we were arguing about

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Speaker 1: Cheeto and he showed me. He was like, here are

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Speaker 1: all of the cornerbacks drafted in the second round over

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years, and this is what they did.

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Speaker 1: And Cheetos actually like on the high end of what

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Speaker 1: that was. Because the learning curve for cornerback is so tough,

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Speaker 1: and so maybe maybe I should give these guys a

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Speaker 1: little bit of grace. But at the same then I

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Speaker 1: look at, uh, oh, absolutely, and this is why this

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Speaker 1: is why we're doing this, and not to cut you up,

537
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: but why we're doing this. It's ought to take us

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Speaker 1: back to this trapp And so if that's the case.

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Speaker 1: If you're telling me he was one of the better

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Speaker 1: second round picks, you better get your cornerback. I had not.

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Speaker 1: I had a long argument and um, I think we're

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Speaker 1: putting it out today. We did a big segment about

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Speaker 1: cornerback with Kyle Yeoman's and Danny Serek and a long argument,

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Speaker 1: building the building the board, and he was, um, he

545
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Speaker 1: was like, well they got Treyvon Diggs in the second

546
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Speaker 1: round last year. I was like, look, we all feel

547
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Speaker 1: good about what Treyvon Diggs did on the field, but

548
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: he got picked on. You're like, there's a certain I mean,

549
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Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to upgrade the position,

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Speaker 1: you better be drafting in the top ten. Like that's

551
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: where the bad asses are. You know, you know, I know,

552
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: you know there's a there's a success story, there's a

553
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman everywhere for every position. But it ain't likely.

554
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Speaker 1: So what I'm trying to say is it's easy for

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Speaker 1: me to say, like Jordan Lewis didn't meet the expectations,

556
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Speaker 1: but maybe that's about what a third round cornerback is

557
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Speaker 1: capable of. As far as Jordan Lewis, I mean, would

558
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Speaker 1: you say it was more on him whether because of

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Speaker 1: his talent or more on the coaching and what they

560
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Speaker 1: were looking for, specifically cornerbacks, I mean, which hurt him.

561
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't get much of an opportunity both.

562
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: But that's annoying because if you I mean you drafted

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Speaker 1: him in the top one hundred, and I know, you know,

564
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: Chris Rushard came in, but like the defensive coordinator was

565
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Speaker 1: the same, Like Rod Marinelli, I assume was on board

566
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Speaker 1: with that pick. Jason Garrett was on board with it.

567
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Speaker 1: So it's annoying to think that they were like, we

568
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Speaker 1: like him enough to use a third round pick on him,

569
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Speaker 1: and then as soon as he got here, they were like,

570
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Speaker 1: you know, you're too short or whatever. The problem was intrink.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like you knew what you were getting

572
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Speaker 1: and you were okay with it on draft day and

573
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Speaker 1: then and that's and that's one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: I think the start's number can be a little bit misleading,

575
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Speaker 1: because he does he has a niche position. I mean,

576
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a slot guy. Not everybody, not every

577
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: corner can play the slot. So he does that. And

578
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: so sometimes you don't start, sometimes you do. You come

579
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: in on Nickel depends on how they start the game.

580
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: You don't technically get to start. But I think he's

581
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: been for the most part, he has been a regular contributor.

582
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Speaker 1: There was one year he wasn't getting a lot of

583
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: playing time, but for the most part he's been there.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Jordan and Cheeto are very very

585
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Speaker 1: similar in the sense of these were not bad picks,

586
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Speaker 1: but you probably didn't meet the level of hype quite

587
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Speaker 1: quite enough. Well here's a bad one for me. Fourth

588
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Speaker 1: round pig Okay, oh wait, Ryan Switzer he was actually yeah,

589
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't the fourth round. Um, well, I was never

590
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: a fan, but that's just there's yeah, there's a he's okay.

591
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the what we don't have here

592
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you know this what they

593
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Speaker 1: get for him, because they did trade him. I believe

594
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Speaker 1: that was the jihad Ward trade, right, didn't they go

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: player for player and get jihad Ward out of Oakland? Then?

596
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: So much for that. I was about to just say,

597
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: what do they get? You know, sometimes you get something

598
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: and it turns into don't remember think that they traded

599
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Speaker 1: They traded a sixth for Tavon to bring Tavon here

600
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Speaker 1: and then I believe because because Oakland, it was Oakland

601
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Speaker 1: at the time. They sent Ward here for Switzer, and

602
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: Ward was a guy that Marinelli. Rod Marinelli just did

603
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell he wanted to the whole time he

604
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: was here. Like he liked Ward in the draft cycle

605
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Speaker 1: that he came out. I remember, I think he was

606
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Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl guy that you're the Cowboys coach the

607
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So they sent Switzer away for Jihad Ward,

608
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: who you know, didn't do much here. But I found

609
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: this out the other day too, doing some we're doing

610
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Speaker 1: some documentary on some draft day stories, and you can

611
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Speaker 1: say that about Rod Marinelli did what I wanted. Uh,

612
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: he did it for the better the betterment of the

613
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Speaker 1: team too, because a lot of the guys, the defensive coordinators,

614
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Speaker 1: all coaches are selfish. They want as many toys as

615
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Speaker 1: they can have. Marinelli cut the tie between Leean Ramsey

616
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Speaker 1: and Zeke and said, listen, they're both great. You get

617
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: me a running back that can control the game with

618
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: this offensive line will be fine on defense. Not a

619
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator will say that when they have a really

620
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: studded cornerback you know over there in Ramsey who's been

621
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: everything as advertised if not better. So. Um, but but

622
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: to say all that about flip side, I mean you're yes,

623
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I get you, but and that you're just gonna go

624
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: down a wormhole. But you know you could have Jalen

625
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Ramsey and Derrick Henry here. I mean in an alternate reality,

626
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: just saying, but you could play that game forever. Yeah,

627
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: of course that's what makes the draft so fun. Yeah, um,

628
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: it was okay, he was okay. I think I've put

629
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Speaker 1: him as a pick. He returned to punt for a

630
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: touchdown head and had a lot of guys doing that. Yeah,

631
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: it's okay. That's fumbled a punt in a game against

632
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: the Rams that could have probably lost the game for him,

633
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: and it definitely played a role. It's hard to he

634
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: was here for a year. It seemed like his arrow

635
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: was pointing up when they traded him. I think I'll

636
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Speaker 1: just admit my human bias. I don't know if you like,

637
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: he had a whole thing with his son. His son

638
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: was really sick here in the last like six weeks.

639
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Speaker 1: Sounds like he's okay, But I don't. I can't. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna sit here and dog a guy who is

641
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Speaker 1: here for a year I don't know. Here's another thing

642
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: about Switzer. Two y'all are making me feel bad. I mean,

643
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: you got to remember how many guys that look like

644
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: him do you need on your team? I mean not

645
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: some some teams will say zero. You definitely don't need two.

646
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Speaker 1: And the head easily Beasley and it's hard for him

647
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Speaker 1: to do. I mean, you know that, that's why they

648
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Speaker 1: traded him. Um, in hindsight, if you don't have Beasley,

649
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Speaker 1: you know you can maybe have a role. He's bounced

650
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Speaker 1: around a little bit, played with the Steelers, played with

651
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, but he's not in league, is that right.

652
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: I think he's with the Browns right now. Good? Yeah, yeah,

653
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Speaker 1: what's going on? Then? Not great? Not bad? All right?

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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: Thanks Savior Woods. Sixth round. He exceeded expectations for me

655
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Speaker 1: because he started games and and he did you know,

656
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: he did stuck around, stuck around when we got to

657
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the point where he was a starter. Now, his expectations

658
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: were different, and he went below expectation for what I

659
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: thought he would be last year. Definitely, if you're going

660
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Speaker 1: to go into a trade, a draft a night and

661
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Speaker 1: you're not going to take a safety in the second

662
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Speaker 1: round because you have Xavier Woods and that guy's starting

663
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Speaker 1: and maybe has a super Bowl ring in one Thornhill

664
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Speaker 1: because of Xavier Woods. Then yeah, that's that's that's bad.

665
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Speaker 1: But as far as the overall pick, you have to

666
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Speaker 1: say he exceeded overall. That's a great pick. Yeah. If

667
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Speaker 1: you get a guy in the sixth round who's capable

668
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Speaker 1: of starting four years for you, that's good drafting. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think everybody was ready for that experiment

670
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Speaker 1: to end, and I think he lost most people with

671
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Speaker 1: his comments after the Browns game. It is what it is.

672
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Speaker 1: Um certain, Like I think it was a good decision

673
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Speaker 1: to let him leave, and but that you know, there's

674
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Speaker 1: it's not always going to be guys that you invest

675
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Speaker 1: in and guys that bust. Like you know, you drafted

676
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Speaker 1: him on day three, you got four years, it starts

677
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: out of him. That's good roster building. It's a good pick.

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Speaker 1: And if I'm not, I'm mistaken. I mean, typically you

679
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: don't expect the sixth round bag to be a harder, right,

680
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: six round picks aren't locks to make the team, Like, yeah,

681
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Speaker 1: once first through first through fourth, I expect you to

682
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Speaker 1: make the team. Fifth round still probably expect you to

683
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Speaker 1: make the team sixth and beyond. If you're even on

684
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Speaker 1: the roster, that's that's good. You did a good so. Yeah,

685
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Speaker 1: to play, contribute and start for that many years as

686
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Speaker 1: a sixth round pick is very good. And when you

687
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Speaker 1: just look at six and seven together, just kind of

688
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: throw it out there together, because at that point it's

689
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: just crapshoot. If you go back and look at these drafts,

690
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: they're they're getting one. They're getting one a year. That's

691
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: like wow. I mean it's like throwing stuff at the

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00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: wall and see that Anthony Brown stuck. U Xavier Wood stuck.

693
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and he stuck. I mean he's not great,

694
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: but I mean he's still here. Cedric Wilson. I'm skipping

695
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: around the draft, Cedric Wilson, Donovan Wilson, um, you know,

696
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: surrounded by all these other guys that aren't really here anymore.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they didn't have a sixth round pick last

698
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: year to new team. He started a game. But but

699
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Speaker 1: I don't think that they really have anything that has

700
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: stood out this last year. But every year they're getting

701
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Speaker 1: like one guy at the end of the draft that's

702
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Speaker 1: really a really, really good pick. So that was Xavier

703
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Woods was that pick. Yeah, well, I think the rest

704
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: on the list we can kind of knocked out, knock

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Speaker 1: out pretty quickly. We have requests. Why which was a

706
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: sixth round er? Two, I don't think he made the team. Nope.

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Speaker 1: He kicked around on the practice squad for a minute,

708
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think he was ever on the fifty three.

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Joey Ivy and Jordan Carroll I don't think made it

710
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Speaker 1: out of their first training camp and then Nope. I

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00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: love Noah Brown. I don't care what anybody says. Whatever.

712
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: You can hate him all you want. He just keeps

713
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: finding ways to stick around. He's just one of those

714
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: that you're always kind of hoping for more and you

715
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: kind of see it there and he just never gets there.

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Speaker 1: Like I get maybe that's maybe that's the problem, is

717
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Speaker 1: like I'm not hoping for more from a seventh round pick,

718
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: especially if a Marie Cooper and Ceedee Lammer on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart, Like what do you want him to do?

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00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a very niche role. I do

721
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: like it seems like he's expanded on it. It was

722
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: very frustrating at the beginning of his career when he

723
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: it was like Jason Garrett was signaling the other sideline

724
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Speaker 1: like we're gonna run the ball Noah Browns in the game, right,

725
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: that was really annoying. But that's not Noah Browns fault.

726
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: They changed that last year when he got every target.

727
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: Remember that one game where it was like, oh my god,

728
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: stop throwing the ball to Noah brown Like, what's did

729
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: he sign a contract extension we didn't even hear about. Yeah,

730
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: there were a couple of games where people were just

731
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: frantically tweeting us, like the CD hurt where CD it's like, no, no,

732
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: just they decided to roll with Noah here in the

733
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, not really sure why working that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It was like six targets and one reception like that, Yeah,

735
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: that is like the worst ratio. I still don't I

736
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: don't view this as Noah Browns fault. Like if they like,

737
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be like no coach, I think CD

738
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: should go in. You're gonna go in the game. So yeah,

739
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Speaker 1: I you know, I think saying it doesn't happen a lot.

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Speaker 1: What just where someone says no, I don't, I don't

741
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: really want it, you know not. But at the end

742
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Speaker 1: of Hoosiers, you've probably never seen it I haven't, but

743
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with what you're talking about. Yeah, professional athletes

744
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: don't say nah, somebody else can have that awesome opportunity.

745
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so. So it's not Noah browns me

746
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: as a decoy and then he'll take the last shot.

747
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm happy that he's here. Well, he has the body

748
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Speaker 1: type that it just I don't know. To me, that's

749
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Speaker 1: how I see it. When I see his body, I

750
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: expect more because of certain players that his body reminds

751
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: me of that have given you more. So I think

752
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: that's that's been the problem for me, is because of

753
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: his physique. I'm kind of expecting more, but I'm not

754
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: getting it now because he looks like Des Bryant. Yeah,

755
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't play like that Bryant did. There were

756
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: many times where I got confused, Well you started playing

757
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: them like Brown. I would forget from our from our

758
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: you know space needless press box spot, I mean not

759
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: that high, but it's we're up there. You have to

760
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: find out what is who's got blue socks on? Who's

761
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: got the shoes on? I mean, because there's many times

762
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Speaker 1: for like oh go Noah, it's like that's dead. Yeah. Sorry, Yeah,

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00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: that's true, and that's not his fault. All right, before

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Speaker 1: we take our final break, if you had to rate

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen draft, how would you rate that overall?

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Speaker 1: Just like the no, well it's bad, Well it's bad.

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00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: It's bad because it's not you don't divide it by

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Speaker 1: eight nine picks. Here, it's like, yeah, the first pick

769
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Speaker 1: takes off like fifty percent of it, and then after that,

770
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: and so the fact that one guy is still here

771
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Speaker 1: and he's Jordan Lewis and he's maybe he's probably not

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 1: even gonna start. He might be your technically two because

773
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Noah too. But yeah, I'm not bad, Yeah I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that, yeah, you don't really I don't

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Speaker 1: think about it. You don't really have a clear cut

776
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Speaker 1: You didn't even want him on the team you wanted

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Speaker 1: You just said we're done with you. Bad draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Glad to be back where we could do stuff like

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Speaker 1: You can do anything fun. I haven't. I'm waiting for

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Speaker 1: But I assume I'll be here right there, probably somewhere

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Speaker 1: it the way we usually do it right. Well. No,

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Speaker 1: like twenty twenty, I was. I did a call with

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Speaker 1: Jamie Fox and DeMarcus Ware, but Jamie Fox and they

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Speaker 1: so Jamie Fox is like, Nick, who you think we're taking?

847
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I mean, I don't know Willie Beamon.

848
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, I don't know how you

849
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: could not take CD Lamb. You know he's right there.

850
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: I don't know this other defensive gay, but you gotta

851
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: take CD if he's still there. And so Jamie was like,

852
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, I forgot how it all win. I haven't

853
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: seen it again. But he was just like, you called it.

854
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: You called it. So you know, I don't even know

855
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: how I wrote my stories because I think I broke

856
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: my arm patting myself on the back after that. So

857
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: m C. The CD pick and the Great Manzille Martin

858
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: debate of twenty fourteen or probably stand out in my mind. Yeah,

859
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: all right, well let's getting to twenty eighteen and hope

860
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: that this was better than twenty seventeen. So first round

861
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: pick late In Vanderesh, that one's stuff. It is, I

862
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: mean it's below, it's below expectations. I think he's met

863
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: For me, he's met expectations because on Draft Day, you

864
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: said he'll make the Pro Bowl. He'll make the Pro

865
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: Bowl next year. Right, there's a rookie. Yeah, all Pro.

866
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, all Pro is a rookie. But see, so

867
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: that that puts you here. Now he's been knocked down

868
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I don't I haven't seen it since.

869
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Though I haven't. I get he showed glimpses of it

870
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: against Philly this past year, Like he played like a

871
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: badass in Philly, Like he came back and you know,

872
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: he forced a fumble. I think he had a sack. Uh,

873
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: But he was so good in twenty eighteen. I guess

874
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's like a victim of your own success when

875
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: you're so good so quickly. I guess you could say

876
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 1: he's met expectations because he's uh, he's made a Pro Bowl.

877
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: He's made one Pro Bowl in three years. Doesn't matter

878
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: when you expect it to happen. It just did ten

879
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: and the injuries necessarily not his fault, you know, like

880
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: it was, but it was said coming in that you

881
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: know that was one of the reasons, you know, he

882
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: don't they knew about it. He played eighteen games as

883
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a rookie if you count the playoffs, and he has

884
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: played nineteen in the two years since. And I understand

885
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: that that's not his It's not his fault. Nobody wants

886
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: to get hurt. I'm like, you know, go Shaun Lee understands.

887
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: He actually said, you know, Layton said some great stuff

888
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: last season about how Sean Lee gave him some great

889
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: perspective about you know, don't let your frustration about not

890
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: being available get in the way of coming back stronger

891
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: and like approaching it the right way, because obvious, I mean,

892
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Layton reminds obvious for a lot of reasons. He reminds

893
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: me of Sean Lee. But he has that, like you

894
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: can tell, he's got that desire to be good to

895
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: the point where like if he's not great, he's he's

896
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: pissed off about it. Like he didn't he didn't want

897
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: to talk about his injury last year at training camp

898
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: because you could tell how aggravated he was that that

899
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: it was even a topic of conversation. So you know,

900
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: I empathize with him. But yeah, nineteen games in two years,

901
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: and you know, they got to decide what to do

902
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: with his fifth year option in a couple of weeks,

903
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: and if they draft a linebacker in this draft, I

904
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: won't be surprised if they don't pick it up, honestly.

905
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: And if you're not, if you're not going to pick

906
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: up the fifth year option of your first round pick,

907
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: then I don't think you've met the expectations. So that'll

908
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: be the barometer what they do in the next couple

909
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: of weeks. But I think that's just kind of how

910
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: I feel right now. All right, second round, Connor Williams met,

911
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: He's met expectations met, And I think i'd also think,

912
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's probably fair to say Connor

913
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: has been the weak point of the offensive line for

914
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: most of his career here, but he also plays with

915
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: two potential Hall of famers and Travis Frederick was on

916
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame trajectory before he retired before he

917
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: got hurt or sick, and Lyle Collins. When he's been healthy,

918
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: he's been very good. So does that mean Connor Williams

919
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: is bad or he's just playing with a bunch of

920
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: really great player doesn't because I'll take you back thirteen

921
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: years when the offensive line was about the same three

922
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers. Right tackle that was solid, and then left

923
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: guard that was you know, he was just pretty good.

924
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Cozar. He was a pretty good player, but he

925
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: was just with three Pro bowlers and another pretty good

926
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: right tackle. It's very similar here. You know, if Connor

927
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: Williams is the worst member of your offensive line when

928
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: it's completely healthy, then your offensive line is probably good.

929
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: I still think he would be a better tackle. I'd

930
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: be interested to see it. I think he'd be a

931
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: better tackle. I'd ever got to see it here at

932
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: this point, I think you're probably right. But I mean,

933
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: but then again, I mean, I don't think he would

934
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: have been a better tackle than the two that are starting.

935
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: So No, So that's and that it kind of goes

936
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: back to what you said about Rashaan Slater and Piney

937
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: Sewell is you're going to draft a guy what was

938
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Connor like fifty first overall again something, You're gonna draft

939
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: him that high and just have him be your swing

940
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: tackle and if all goes well, he's not going to

941
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: play like I don't know if that's a good idea. No,

942
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: So's he's been good. He in credit to him too

943
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: for what he did last year. I mean he was.

944
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, not going to compare him to Connor Connor Williams.

945
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: How we're going to say the same game, not going

946
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: to compare him to Sack Martin. Yeah, but based on

947
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: the fact that he was available all year except for

948
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: a quick moment there where he got a little bit injured.

949
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: But he was consistent last year and that's the one

950
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: thing that you needed the most. From what we saw,

951
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: he missed one snap in a year where everybody else

952
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: was just beat to hell coming on. Somehow he was, Yeah,

953
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: somehow he was able to stay healthy. And he's another

954
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: guy the huss suffer and dealt with other injuries in

955
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: the passes. Met Yeah, met expectations all right. Third round

956
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: Michael Gallas exceeded expectations. How much easily to say there

957
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: everyone knows him and how well he's done all right?

958
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: Fourth round, Dorn's armstrong. See this this is where it

959
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: gets tricky. See I say, I say uh, Met, I

960
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: say met. I was about to say exceeded. And then

961
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: when I think, well, I should think of Dak but

962
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: that is like such a such an app that's ridiculous.

963
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: But no, you know what I when I think of

964
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: like a good or what a great fourth round pick

965
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 1: is capable of. I always think of Anthony Hitchins. Yeah,

966
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: like if you're capable of finding that with pick like

967
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: one twenty six, then you know, I don't think as

968
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. Again, like teams cut fourth round

969
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: picks all the time, Like you don't see it often

970
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: as a rookie, but like in your second year and

971
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: definitely in your third year, if you're not cutting it,

972
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed to be here. So okay for him

973
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: to hang around for three years and you know, not

974
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: be amazing, but be a valuable role player. That's why

975
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: I say below expectations because just like we said about

976
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, well he didn't he didn't play tackle or whatever. Well,

977
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: of course not. And look who's here. But since Dorence

978
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: Armstrong has been here, this team's went out and traded

979
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 1: for Robert Quinny. They had to go get Alden Smith,

980
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: and those guys were playing and playing over him. They

981
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, they they have obviously you know, they resigned

982
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: d Law and then they got Randy Gregory in here.

983
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: He I mean, they it's been a position where they've

984
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: been trying to turn over Rocks here to try to

985
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: help this thing. So he's a fourth round pick, you

986
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't expect them to have to try to do all this.

987
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: You would hope that he'd be a guy in the

988
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: mix and not somebody. Well, he's not the answer. So

989
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: that's why I kind of say below. His stats have

990
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: been great, but you know he's he's a he's a

991
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 1: special team's kind of glue guy. You just think maybe

992
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more for a fourth round hire expected

993
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: as for him, because since the moment he got here,

994
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, for whatever the reason, took him under his wing. Yeah,

995
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: And I would see that, and he would talk about

996
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: him and he would be kind of his guy. And

997
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: I thought, well, if if the law is taking you

998
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: under his wing, is because he must see something in you.

999
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: But then it just again another guy that necessarily didn't

1000
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: necessarily I guess I great. I kind of said this

1001
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: about cornerbacks too, but edge rushers, and again, there's a

1002
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's an exception for every position. Jared Allen

1003
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: is a likely Hall of Famer. He was a fourth

1004
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: round pick, but like buy and large, edge rushers are

1005
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: drafted super duper high, like a fourth round edge rushers

1006
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: very rarely turn into those types of players. So maybe

1007
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: maybe I have that in the back of my mind

1008
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: when I cut Doran's armstrong some slack. But I think,

1009
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, well, if the owner didn't bring him up

1010
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: in every other interview he did, I don't think people

1011
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: would hate him so much. I'll tell you why my

1012
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: expectations were higher for him. Why because he wore number

1013
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: two at Kansas. He wore single digit number as a

1014
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: pass rusher and usually wear that. And you're like, that

1015
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be pretty good. Yeah, I just think you

1016
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: just think he's gonna I want to pull I'm pulling

1017
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: up his college stats right now. I mean, yeah, he

1018
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: had he had sixteen career sacks at Kansas as he fell.

1019
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: He fell to the Cowboys in the fourth round. I

1020
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: mean murder projections. He would be a second round or

1021
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: maybe third. He's he's met the expectations for where he

1022
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: was picked. I guess all right, next one, uh, Dalton

1023
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: Schultz also in the fourth round. I swear every time

1024
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: every time we do this, I'm just like, man, that's tricky.

1025
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: Like they're all like Nett. You would say, you would

1026
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: say didn't meet you would say below expectations if he

1027
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: hadn't been so good last year though, right, Yeah, because

1028
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: he was not meeting them last year. He shocked the

1029
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: hell out of all of us. Yeah, some of us.

1030
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: You know, some of the people on this one wanted

1031
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: him cut. And you can say my name, put her

1032
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: name to it, Rember Me. I think there's more than one.

1033
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: I think more than one. I didn't really see the point.

1034
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: And then but then Jarwin got hurt. And when he

1035
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: got hurt, it was like, oh God, what now can

1036
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: he go get somebody? And he comes in and has

1037
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: a really good year. But I think what it shows

1038
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: is the guys around him, I mean they're tied end

1039
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: in this offense is he's probably gonna get you sixty five.

1040
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: He catches sixty five to seventy how long down the

1041
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: field though, And that's what Jarwin's gonna be better than

1042
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Charlt because he can spread it a little bit. You

1043
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: don't see he didn't really see Schultz making plays down

1044
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: the field. He did his job. He made a couple,

1045
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: but for the most part, he turns around, catches the ball,

1046
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: gets up the field, he knows where to go. He

1047
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: showed a little bit more. That's a guy like him.

1048
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: I just I think met is right, but I was

1049
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: so I was so impressed with him last year. Especially

1050
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: not only that, but last year, you know, Jarwin tore

1051
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: his acl like thirty seconds into the opener, and I mean,

1052
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: and Dalton even he'll he wasn't ready good and he

1053
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it. He had a bad night. And

1054
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: then a week later, nine catches for eighty eight yards

1055
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: and a very nice touchdown and a nice catch over

1056
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: like over good coverage against the Falcons. That's I mean,

1057
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a response. And then obviously you

1058
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: know he had comparable stats to the guy who made

1059
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, which said that a lot during the seasons,

1060
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: So don't I don't very very improbable snub which you

1061
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: really didn't have. I'm not gonna call him a Pro

1062
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: Bowl snow. He was probably the closest guy you could

1063
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: really make an argument for, unless you want to argue

1064
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: that Zach Martin even though he didn't play a lot

1065
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: or Amari I would say anyway, either way, Yeah, Matt expectations,

1066
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: largely because he was a badass last year. Fifth round

1067
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Mike White below. If you don't finish your contract, especially

1068
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: as a quarterback, because like teams are, you know, you're

1069
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: looking for reasons to hold on to a quarterback, and

1070
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 1: if you don't make it through your rookie contract, that's

1071
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: not great. Sixth round Chris Covington and below below, then

1072
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: you have Cedric Wilson also eated. Six round, exceeded. He

1073
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: would have made the team. He would have made the

1074
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: team as a rookie if he hadn't gotten hurt. He

1075
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: got hurt, like right at the beginning of that camp

1076
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: and they just put him on ir um. So yeah,

1077
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, exceeded if you're picked two o eight and

1078
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: you're still here, uh this many years later, exceeded And

1079
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's kept you intrigued, which to me,

1080
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: that's also something to look at. He's a guy that

1081
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued about and I want to see more and

1082
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: I want to see what, you know, what he can

1083
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: actually develop into. And some of these guys, I mean,

1084
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: you mentioned names and you quickly just kind of they're

1085
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: so forgettable and you're like, yeah, yeah, he left whatever.

1086
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: But he's a guy that's has kept you interested despite

1087
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: the injuries. Now seventh round, both Scarborough below me played

1088
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: against Yeah, yeah, when he's when he's running the ball

1089
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: against him and you're looking around like good, good pick, Like,

1090
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: what'd you cut this guy? He looks better than Zeke

1091
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: that day. I will. It's funny because, you know, especially

1092
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: as somebody who covers the draft, I'm like, who, it's

1093
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. It feels harsh to even say

1094
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: below expectations because seventh round picks don't even make the team.

1095
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: But there was so much hype on that guy because

1096
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, he was a star at Alabama. Alabama's running

1097
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: backs are always great. I know, you guys hate this

1098
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: thing a name. Oh why I got killed for that

1099
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah. No, no, it's not a name thing.

1100
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: It's a it's a what it's a get off the

1101
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: bus guy, is what it was. It was like, this

1102
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: guy's a running back. Yeah, we'll find a spot for him,

1103
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: you know. And you know, and then the Lions didn't.

1104
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's still in the league.

1105
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: But no, he wasn't a name guy. He was just

1106
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: he was more of a this guy will kick your

1107
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: ass kind of well. And like I said, you know,

1108
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: Alabama's I know you don't watch a lot of college football,

1109
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: but like for years, Alabama it's like, well, their starters great,

1110
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: but look at this backup, Like Derrick Henry was turning

1111
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: heads when mark Ingram was still the starter, and um,

1112
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: who's the other guy. I'm already Trent Richardson, Like you know,

1113
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: mark Ingram and him, they were like, oh my god,

1114
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: the backups. Eddie Lay was a backup on those teams.

1115
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: They're like, the backups better than the starter. And the

1116
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: same thing with both Scarborough and he just it didn't

1117
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: translate to the league the same way it did for

1118
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys. Let me let me clarify

1119
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: this too, because I had a few people on Twitter

1120
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: that misunderstood what I said. Let me just let me

1121
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: say that the name thing, Yeah, I don't think the

1122
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys drafted him because his name was Taco. Okay, that's

1123
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: not what I said, and that's not what I meant.

1124
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is the whole persona of him which

1125
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: is created at Michigan. I'm talking about the guy that

1126
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: looks like this. I mean, he's a really tall guy.

1127
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: He's got an intriguing name. You're not going to forget

1128
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, what he looks like, what his name is.

1129
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: It just builds into all of it. Let's look at this,

1130
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: let's let's look at Taco again, and yeah, you see

1131
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: some good plays and all that. I just think it

1132
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: just plays into it. I'm not saying you draft him

1133
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: because that's his name, because I mean that's the case

1134
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead would get picked in the second round or something.

1135
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's a lot of that, But I

1136
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: just think it built the whole persona of him. And

1137
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it would have been the

1138
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: same if his name was Mike Johnson. I just don't

1139
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: think him. I find it funny that coming from someone

1140
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: who speaks English so well and it's so articulate, you're

1141
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: always having to come back on the show. And I

1142
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: was about to say that that's like a theme a

1143
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: little bit, as Nick is like, all right, let me

1144
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: just clarify a couple. If I wasn't getting cut off

1145
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: all the time, I could finish a point fair. Oh

1146
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: my god, No, that's funny. Yeah, um, okay, so we

1147
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: finished that one. If you had to rate that draft overall,

1148
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: how would you rate it? I would call that a

1149
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: good draft. That's a B plus n B B plus.

1150
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean you get a Pro Bowl season out of Layton.

1151
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: You got two quality starters in Connor and Gallop, both

1152
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: of your fourth round picks are still here doing things,

1153
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: and you got a late round and find in Cedric Wilson,

1154
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we'll see what happens with Layton.

1155
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: You know, he's still he's got one, potentially two more

1156
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: seasons to kind of you know, the book is not

1157
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: closed on him. So yeah, I call it a B.

1158
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I would call it a B right now, and if

1159
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,919
Speaker 1: Layton rediscovers himself a little bit, then I would great

1160
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: it even better. I also got to think about, you know,

1161
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: you're picking Night when he he was the nineteenth pick.

1162
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean you're picking nineteen twenty ish at every round,

1163
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: So I mean that's you're already a little bit behind.

1164
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to have great drafts when you're

1165
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: already you're starting at nineteen. UM. But yeah, I think

1166
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: it was good. A lot of question about that pick,

1167
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: Layton Van Rischard myself included. I mean, I was I

1168
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: was not a big fan of that. I don't you know,

1169
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: most of us weren't. I don't like and Brian is

1170
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: right about a lot of people. I'm not trying to

1171
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: dog him, but like that that was not Brian's preferred guy,

1172
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: and the way he shot out of the gate and

1173
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: was an all pro right off the bat, he shut

1174
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people up, you know. Or again, we'll

1175
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: see what you know, he's got at least one, if

1176
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: not two more years. We'll see what the final tally

1177
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: looks like. You know, I thought I find this a

1178
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: lot more interesting than I thought I would, just looking

1179
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: back at used draft and just comparing not just each

1180
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: peak pick peek. Sorry, that's what I get from making

1181
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: fun of you, Nick, there's my accent, No, but just

1182
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: looking at the drafting overall and just comparing kind of

1183
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: what happens year after year and how whether they were

1184
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: successful or not successful. So it's it'll be interested interesting

1185
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: to see if we finished this next week with Derek

1186
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: and just kind of look at maybe if there is

1187
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: a trend where you go from a really good draft

1188
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: then kind of not good, then decent, then maybe good again.

1189
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, the Cowboys need to put a

1190
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: little more emphasis on free agency. I think we would

1191
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: all agree. But the draft, the draft is the lifeblood

1192
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: of the league, like it's all. It's not just and

1193
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: it's not just about finding stars. It's about that. I mean,

1194
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: that's how you control salaries. It's not necessarily fair to

1195
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: those guys, but that's if you get great players and

1196
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay them a lot. That's how

1197
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: you compete and win playoff games. And that's what makes

1198
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: it so interesting. And looking at the Cowboys is fascinating,

1199
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: or you can go look at somebody else and be like, well,

1200
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: that's why they're good. They found five Pro bowlers in

1201
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: the same draft. That's why they're bad. Two thousand and nine.

1202
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: They didn't pick until the third round and none of

1203
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: their picks worked out. Not to bring that source subject up,

1204
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: but all right, well it matters. We'll see what if

1205
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: we get to finish this next week, and then I'm

1206
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: sure we'll talk more about the draft will which will

1207
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: be the following day and an exciting day to finally

1208
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: get some answers and see what actually happens. Perniki David Hellman,

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