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Speaker 3: With that being said, let's let's let's throttle down on

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Speaker 3: Frank Vogel. He's he's out as the coach. And in Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: There was an.

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Speaker 3: Article that surfaced about Kadi also being on that list

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Speaker 3: with Lebron James as a coach. Killer I found out

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Speaker 3: to be a little bit interesting. I think that when

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Speaker 3: to this question, Fellas, and I want y'all's perspective on it,

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Speaker 1: MJ.

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Speaker 3: MJ went to the league and he had a coach

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Speaker 3: But then comes Doug Collins, and that's where he gets

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Speaker 5: No, And I think it's unfair to criticize these dudes

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Speaker 5: for when coaches get fired. And we'll focus on Lebron first,

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Speaker 5: he starts off with Paul Solace. Brendan Malone had eighteen games,

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Speaker 5: Luke Walton, then let me not skip Tylo because he

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Speaker 5: not gonna be what you're gonna do. Fire the player,

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durant is a coach killer.

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Speaker 6: It's the first time I've ever heard that because he

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Speaker 6: going into Phoenix, he's a coach killer. How many coaches

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Speaker 6: have Devin Booker been through while he's been in Phoenix.

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Speaker 6: Why does it have to be Kevin Durant. And to

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Speaker 6: I agree with that, So I would that's the first

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Speaker 3: this where maybe Lebron and this has been a big conversation,

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Speaker 1: I never looked at him in that manner.

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Speaker 3: But we've heard of the dominance of Lebron James, We've

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Speaker 5: You don't if you don't win, Yeah, somebody has to

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Speaker 4: That's just what it.

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Speaker 3: But why would it be Why wouldn't it be Lebron

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Speaker 5: He's a superstar. What' you're gonna do get rid of Lebron?

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Speaker 5: Whos gonna go watch the games? You get rid of Lebron?

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Speaker 5: You couldn't win with him, You're for sure gonna lose

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Speaker 3: So that hurt Doesn't that hurt your legacy? Then if

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Speaker 5: It doesn't what I'm saying that on Darvin Ham somebody

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Speaker 3: Huschman is outa It's Plexico burst. I'm LeVar Arrington. Guys,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot going on. We'll talk quarterback power rankings

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Speaker 3: There was a moment where Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick

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Speaker 6: And then you you know, he he leaves, he goes

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Speaker 1: The replication will not happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, I know one of jump on that horse,

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Speaker 8: the quick turnarounds. So the potential for a twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: four triple crown winner is still alive and galloping. In

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Speaker 8: Game three of the NBA's Western Conference Semi Finals on

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Speaker 8: Friday night, Denver what at Minnesota one seventeen to ninety

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Speaker 8: Timberwolf Facilly the series two games to one, and Game

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Speaker 8: three of the Eastern Conference semi Finals, the Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 8: and New York Knicks were tied at one oh six

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Speaker 8: in the final seconds of.

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Speaker 1: The fourth quarter.

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Speaker 8: Here was Mark Boyle on wfni.

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Speaker 7: Attleburton double teams out near the timeline three to shoot,

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Speaker 7: two to shoot, thirty five foot travel.

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Speaker 4: For two.

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Speaker 8: And just to clarify what, Just to clarify, that was

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Speaker 8: a reference to Andrew Nemhard's jersey number he wears two. Okay,

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Speaker 8: that was not a reference to a biological.

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Speaker 1: He needed to go do function. Okay.

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Speaker 8: Perhaps Nick fans needed to because the Pacers, wanting to

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Speaker 8: win one eleven to one oh six, the Knick still

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Speaker 8: leave the series two games to one. Today's action tips

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Speaker 8: off at three thirty Eastern with Game three of the

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Speaker 8: other Western Conference semi final series from Dallas, Mavericks and

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Speaker 8: the Oklahoma City Thunder tied at one win a piece.

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Speaker 8: Tonight at eight thirty Eastern Game three from Cleveland with

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Speaker 8: the Cavaliers and Boston Celtics tied at one win a piece,

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Speaker 8: and Fellas, it's all.

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Speaker 1: Yours, appreciate it. I Low, I'm sitting there and not

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Speaker 1: laughing at you.

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Speaker 3: I'm laughing at the list that we're about to talk about.

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Speaker 3: So and if you feel like you want to chime in,

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Speaker 3: I loo on this one. You you certainly let us

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Speaker 3: know too, all right, So listen, this is the CBS NFL.

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Speaker 3: One of the writers came out with a power ranking

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Speaker 3: of this year's quarterbacks, Cody Benjamin and we could debate

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Speaker 3: the top top guys, and we could get to that,

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Speaker 3: but I gotta say putting Daniel Jones at thir at

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Speaker 3: thirty two, Fellas, they they got Daniel Jones at thirty two,

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Speaker 3: and they got bow Knicks. They got guys I haven't

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Speaker 3: even played in the league yet rated higher than Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: They got bow Knicks, they got Jaydon Daniels, they got

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Speaker 3: they got Caleb Williams, and basically all of the guys

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Speaker 3: that got drafted this year ranked higher in the power

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Speaker 3: ranking than Daniel Jones, first and foremost.

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Speaker 5: That's disrespectful as hell, they say, you know what, No, man,

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Speaker 5: that's good because that gives you motivation.

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Speaker 4: Man, if you're a competitive supposed to you.

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Speaker 5: Think, if you're a competitive bro, that should motivate that,

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Speaker 5: you know what out of you like y'all really think

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Speaker 5: some dudes that have never taken a snap of the league,

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Speaker 5: that should motivate him, man, it really should.

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Speaker 3: They got Aaron Rodgers at eleven, so he's not even

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Speaker 3: in the top ten. They got two at twelve, not

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Speaker 3: in the top ten. They got Kirk Cousins at fourteen,

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Speaker 3: not in the top ten. They got Trevor Lawrence at fifteen,

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Speaker 3: not in the top ten. They got Russell Wilson at nineteenth.

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Speaker 3: And now here's the one that's pretty crazy. They got

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Speaker 3: Caler Murray at twenty one. All right, now let's go

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Speaker 3: back to the top. Of course, we know who's number one,

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Speaker 3: all right. They got Pat Mahomes at Patrick Mahomes at

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Speaker 3: number one. But here's where it gets interesting. Brock Purty

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Speaker 3: at number two, Josh Allen at number.

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Speaker 4: Three, they wrong on that.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow at number four, they wrong.

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Speaker 4: Once you said the number two, they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: C J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud at five, Lamar Jackson at six, Jalen Hurts at seven,

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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott at eight, Justin Herbert hitting you up at nine,

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Speaker 3: and your boy Jordan Love rounding you out at ten.

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Speaker 3: That's your top ten right there? How how how off

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Speaker 3: are they? How off is this one wrong?

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Speaker 1: Is two left feet? Dang?

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Speaker 5: You can't try to try to can't put Brock Party

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Speaker 5: number two? Now, me personally, I would have Rock Party's

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Speaker 5: top ten for sure, the way he's played.

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Speaker 4: But number two? Come on, man, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, who's your number two? I'm gonna tell you who

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Speaker 1: my number two is. Who's your number two?

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 1: I got Lamar Jackson number.

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Speaker 4: Two, Joe Burrow's number two, and then.

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Speaker 1: You know his wrists is still a little bit a

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Speaker 1: little shaky.

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen is number three.

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Speaker 1: See, I think you've been a little biased.

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Speaker 4: I'm not being biased. He's not being biased.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you could go either way with the number two,

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Speaker 6: with Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the man just won the MVP of the league.

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Speaker 3: He did, and that's his second one he did. How

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Speaker 3: do how do you have a reigning MVP not number two?

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Speaker 3: Your number two? I would say he's number two on

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Speaker 3: my list. Then I would go Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do that before.

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Speaker 4: I'm not putting Josh Allen in my top five.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not doing so who's up next?

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Speaker 9: Four?

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Speaker 6: Brock person out in my top five either. But you

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Speaker 6: know we get to talking about, you know, just playing

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Speaker 6: the quarterback position. U. Anon Rodder is still in my

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Speaker 6: top five. Wow, he has to be. I know that

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Speaker 6: he got hurt last year, but I mean he's still

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Speaker 6: going to be Ann Rodgers.

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Speaker 4: If healthy, if he stays healthy, He's still I.

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Speaker 1: Don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that.

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Speaker 4: Four.

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Speaker 6: I put Anon Rodgers at four and round it down

539
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Speaker 6: at five. When it when it comes to playing the position,

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Speaker 6: he has it, you know, got to where you know

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Speaker 6: people want him to be. But I gotta put Justin

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Speaker 6: Herbert at five?

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Speaker 4: What I do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: Hey, No, board were receivers, bro we're looking at who

547
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Speaker 5: we want to catch the ball from.

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Speaker 6: Herbert at five when it comes to throwing the football

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Speaker 6: at being a quarterback. I happen to put Justin Herbert

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Speaker 6: at five.

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Speaker 3: So you got pat Patrick Mahomes at one, you got

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson at two, TJ you got, you got Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow at number two.

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Speaker 5: I got Burrow, Allen, Herbert Lamar Burrow Allen, Herbert Lamar two, three, four, five.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I thought that's Patrick Mahomes one with Lamar Jackson two.

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Speaker 6: I'll take Herbert three, and I'll take Annon Rogers four

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Speaker 6: and Justin Herbert five. Right now, listen without Stephan Diggs

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Speaker 6: this year office, I believe I think just Allen is

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Speaker 6: gonna struggle. I really do. It's gonna show us how

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Speaker 6: good he really is as a quarterback. That that's what

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Speaker 6: you just said is the key.

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00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: He will either show his greatness or we will say, right, wow,

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Speaker 5: Diggs meant that much.

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Speaker 1: Right all I'm gonna say, this is what I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 6: And you can put party in the rest of them

567
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: boys whatever you want, but you cannot sit here and say,

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Speaker 6: I know Aaron Rodgers was the season, but there's no

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Speaker 6: way in hell that brought Perdy is a better quarterback

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Speaker 6: than Anon Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: There's no way. There's no way.

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Speaker 3: Nah, there's no way to justify that, man. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's that's there's some there's some legitimacy there, and and

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Speaker 3: and and for what it's worth. Kirk Cousins was on

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Speaker 3: MVP trajectory before he got hurt. Like, let's let's state

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Speaker 3: that i'mp for Kirk Cousins to be at number fourteen.

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Speaker 1: I think that's blasphemous.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I might put CJ. Stroud at five, bro, And.

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Speaker 3: And I was coming, I was, I was, I was round.

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00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I'm putting c J. Stroud

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Speaker 3: number two on my list. If it's not Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I.

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Speaker 4: See, it's just one.

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Speaker 5: If that's the key with what Plaque just said, I

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Speaker 5: got to say this off his rookie ear, I'm putting

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Speaker 5: five because we believe this is gonna be a continuous thing.

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Speaker 3: I do what, Yeah, concerned about Here's here's what I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna say. The only reason why I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow is because I'm concerned about if he

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Speaker 3: can stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: I really am at this point.

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Speaker 3: I'm just very concerned about you if he can stay healthy,

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Speaker 3: and that plays a part.

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Speaker 4: We are basing this quarterback ranking if they're healthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but I'm basing it off of both.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of basing it off of both, like because

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Speaker 3: availability is the best.

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Speaker 1: You can do that, Yes I can, Yes I can.

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Speaker 5: If everybody everybody is healthy who is your top five

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Speaker 5: quarterback to the list if they're healthy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Tom Brady's healthy, he's my number one quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying we can throw out i's and odds

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00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: and listen.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell y'all something I'm not?

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Speaker 3: I was not all the way sold on Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: and how he played last season.

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm if, I'm gonna be honest, I'm not.

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00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: I think their defense largely in part of the reason

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Speaker 3: why that team wanted.

610
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: To carried them. He can the Patriots defense.

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00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: Patrick ma Holmes was not the best quarterback in the

612
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Speaker 3: National Football League.

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00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 4: Last get it done. He win and catch it too.

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Speaker 9: I mean, what you want to do, let me go

615
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 9: catch this. Look at what these receivers did to this

616
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Speaker 9: young man that was destroyed, Like.

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Speaker 5: I can't throw it no better, and much was left

618
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Speaker 5: on the plate. Think how much yards he would have

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Speaker 5: had in touchdowns if they just catch.

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Speaker 4: Half of the balls they dropped. At least thirty plus

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Speaker 4: footballs this year. Man, That's that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I think this debate will continue to to,

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Speaker 3: you know, be a major conversation because obviously, I think

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00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: this is a pretty controversial list that has been put

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Speaker 3: out as a power ranking.

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Speaker 1: But that's the fun of doing things.

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Speaker 3: At this point during the course of the year, nobody

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Speaker 3: really knows what's gonna be what and how it's going

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Speaker 3: to turn out.

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Speaker 1: But we do know this.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Up on Game, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 1: Again, just search.

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Speaker 3: Up on game wherever it is you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 3: and you'll see this show post it right after we

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Speaker 3: get off the air. Fellas, before we take this break

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Speaker 3: into the second hour, there was a story that hit

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Speaker 3: about well, Jaydon Daniels and Malik Neighbors. They had a

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Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars bet amid you know, this whole NFL

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Speaker 3: gambling policy concerns comes out that the two you know,

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Speaker 3: they made the bet that you know the other would

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Speaker 3: get the offensive Rookie of the year, they would receive

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Speaker 3: the most votes. And now that it's become common knowledge,

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Speaker 3: it's been canceled. They said Friday during respective rookie mini

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Speaker 3: camps that the bet had been canceled, citing that they

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Speaker 3: were previously uneducated on the NFL's gambling policy. Should there

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Speaker 3: be a problem here, Should this be a story? Should

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Speaker 3: there be an issue that Malik Neighbors and Jaydon Daniels

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Speaker 3: were going to bet each other ten thousand dollars on

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Speaker 3: who gets Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 5: No, but and it's not they're not betting on games.

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Speaker 5: As players, we make bets with each other all the time.

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Speaker 5: All the time. You may make a bet would a

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Speaker 5: teammate somebody on another team.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: The exact nature of what's going on is actually crazy

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Speaker 5: because Monday, I will be doing a gambling class with

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Speaker 5: the NFL so that I can educate the players that

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Speaker 5: are coming into the league. So I'll be well versed

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Speaker 5: on this next Saturday. But this Monday, I will be

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Speaker 5: doing a class to better understand the dudes and the

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Speaker 5: don'ts and all the language that that goes into this.

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Speaker 5: But I don't believe this is a problem at all. Now,

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Speaker 5: they did call the bet off because I guess you

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Speaker 5: know Malik, he opened his mouth and so they don't

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Speaker 5: want to have any problems with the National Football League

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Speaker 5: in this bet.

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Speaker 4: So the bet was caught off.

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Speaker 5: But looking at it and hearing it for the first time,

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Speaker 5: I didn't believe it was a problem.

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Speaker 4: But like I said, i'll know more after Monday.

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Speaker 1: Man the better still on even I'm glad you called

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Speaker 1: it out. I'm glad nowhere they just told you all

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Speaker 1: that we fake.

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Speaker 6: Come on, many, we know how this thing go. Man, Listen,

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Speaker 6: the better still on America. Even though they came out

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Speaker 6: and said it was not knowledgeable about the gambling rules

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Speaker 6: in the NFL. Listen, we got to get out there

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Speaker 6: and say to these people that were not gambling anymore.

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Speaker 6: This is how the text with the phone call went.

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Speaker 6: And then once they came out and.

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Speaker 5: Apologized and they said that they were no longer it

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Speaker 5: was no longer a friendly wager, they double back soon

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Speaker 5: they got off the phone, no doubt about it exactly

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Speaker 5: how it went down.

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Speaker 1: That is still on.

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Speaker 4: I know it is, Yeah, tell me, I know how

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Speaker 4: it go. Hey, I'm telling the truth. That's why you're

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Speaker 4: over there.

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Speaker 1: Last.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna say the badness off.

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Speaker 1: But it's still on.

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Speaker 4: That is on America. Yeah, yeah, I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: say that.

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Speaker 1: Come on, it just ain't on to y'all, y'all. You

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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 4: I guess what since since it ain't only y'all, it

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Speaker 4: might have went up an unuppen. It might be twenty

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Speaker 4: now days, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Man, Hey, for neighbors, say, you better hope Daniel Johnes

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Speaker 5: come through.

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Speaker 4: He better hope he comes.

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Speaker 6: Oh, bro, you ain't like Jay is in a better situation.

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Speaker 3: Man, take cat that Mad raked thirty two out of

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Speaker 3: thirty two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: You mads to your boy, you're gonna get rookie any year,

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Speaker 5: and they got your mad.

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Speaker 3: Rated below all of the income if drafted rookies.

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Speaker 1: That is, that's ugly. How does that work? I need

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Speaker 1: to understand how does that work? Right there?

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Speaker 3: So you guys don't feel like there be and I

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Speaker 3: know you you got you know some more you know,

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Speaker 3: deep roads and roads as it applies to representation of

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Speaker 3: the league. So TJ you you just see it like

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Speaker 3: definitively as there's no problem here, won't be any type

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Speaker 3: of you know, kind of investigations or anything.

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Speaker 1: Now nothing goes. It doesn't go any further than.

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Speaker 5: We don't know how to go in the locker room.

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Speaker 5: Like Penn State played Michigan State. You bet or man,

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Speaker 5: we bet a car.

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Speaker 3: I had a G wagon, Clint Porters had a G

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Speaker 3: wagon and we made a bet on some game and

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Speaker 3: we bet pink slips, Like who won?

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Speaker 1: I won? Didn't give me the pink slip?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, yeah, I ain't gonta give me the

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Speaker 3: bread then you know what I mean, he ain't getting

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 4: It happens all the time.

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Speaker 5: Playing your boy here on another team, I bet bet

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Speaker 5: who get more yards? Like if you're a receiver like that,

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Speaker 5: that happens a lot. And so it just hadn't been

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Speaker 5: spoken up publicly. But again I don't know more on Monday.

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Speaker 1: You know more on Monday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'm actually gonna ask that question to

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Speaker 5: the bet that was made, how does it apply to

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Speaker 5: the NFL gambler policy.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask that exact question so I can get

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Speaker 4: the answer.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. Perfect. We got our two coming up.

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Speaker 3: We got cups to the Legend coming up as well,

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Speaker 3: a lot to get to make sure you stay locked

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Speaker 3: in to un Dan. This is up on game Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. Take a quick break and yes we will

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Speaker 3: be right back.

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Speaker 1: That's t J.

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Speaker 3: Huschmansada Plex Coberts. I'm LeVar Arrington. Yeah up, one game, baby,