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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: April tenth. Miles Simmons here with DeMarco Farr, who is

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Speaker 1: back from being fishing. Yeah. Large halibit large. Yeah. I forgot,

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Speaker 1: almost forgot all about that hook, the large halibit. Didn't

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Speaker 1: even know it was on my pole. Really, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: these thick deep sea poles, I was underneath the Golden Gate.

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Speaker 1: They have these real thick poles, right, so they don't bend,

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Speaker 1: you know, so your pole's just sitting there. It's not

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Speaker 1: like trout fishing where you can see something's on your line. Sure,

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Speaker 1: so I thought, okay, it's time to you know, change bait,

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Speaker 1: and I start, you know, reeling in, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden it gets heavy and heavy and heavy. I

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Speaker 1: look down as this huge halibitum. Have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: like a halibut or a flounder? No, dude, the only

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Speaker 1: time I've seen a halibt is on my plate. Oh

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Speaker 1: it's a flat fish and the eyes are on one side.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a weird looking fish. Yeah, it's a flat

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Speaker 1: fish right now. It's a weird looking fish, but it's huge.

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Speaker 1: It's great tasting. Um can't wait, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna cook it this weekend. Yeah. So, well, now

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Speaker 1: looking at pictures of halibit and yeah that it's a

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Speaker 1: flat fish and looks kind of weird. I've never honestly,

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Speaker 1: you know, because I've and you know this, I watch

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Speaker 1: a lot of Hell's Kitchen. Yeah yeah, so you know

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Speaker 1: he's always talking about one halibit, two bass you know,

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Speaker 1: da da da da. So that's when I usually see

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Speaker 1: halibit on the play. Well, this is the beginning part

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Speaker 1: before it gets to Chef Ramsey. Interesting, it's raw. Love it, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it too. But we also are now getting

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Speaker 1: closer and closer to the start of the Rams offseason program.

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Speaker 1: We saw that we've got preseason opponents. Now god yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you Sue did that the other day. We got the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: we got Dallas in Hawaii, right, hwei uh. And then

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Speaker 1: we finished off with the Texans and Denver's coming to town. Correct,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. Yeah, you sort of mixed up

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Speaker 1: the order of the last two. But yes, we do

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Speaker 1: finish off with the Texans and then the Broncos are

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Speaker 1: the only one week three. I mean, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through them, which is what I wanted to do. Yeah, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's when you get those preseason opponents.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like, okay, yeah, you know, there's a light

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Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel, right and you can

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Speaker 1: actually start to see it, as opposed to it's just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we know the season at some point is going to

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Speaker 1: be here, you know, right, Well, I guess we're through

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Speaker 1: with the nc Double A Tournament. We've already crowned the champion.

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Speaker 1: Next is NBA and then it's all baseball and then

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Speaker 1: it's football up next. So I just can't wait till

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Speaker 1: we get there. This is a rough time of year

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Speaker 1: for me, especially once basketball it's a rough time of year.

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Speaker 1: So we're almost there, We're getting close. But then it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's August and we're sitting here in April, right,

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Speaker 1: so we still have some time. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time. We don't have a lot of time. We

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Speaker 1: have a few more months. Please, I'm just barely making

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Speaker 1: it right now. We don't have that much more time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but what excites you about the preseason, because

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Speaker 1: like your tweet, you seem like, wow, this is great,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's exciting about the I love preseason football

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Speaker 1: because it's a time for guys to earn jobs, and

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Speaker 1: it's a time it's like you get your first look

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Speaker 1: at some of the guys you just drafted or your

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Speaker 1: free agents, like Oakland. When you take on Oakland, it

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Speaker 1: depends on who's at quarterback. Car I assume is going

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Speaker 1: to be there. But what if they draft Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: You have to deal with him in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: or the second half of those games. So those are

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Speaker 1: long as you get them. So just seeing how these

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Speaker 1: of fun. So it's like your first look. It's a

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a coming attraction. It's a movie trailer.

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Speaker 1: The preseason schedule is out, get excited for it. I

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Speaker 1: like that the coming attraction, the movie trailer. I think

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Speaker 1: it's interesting when you think about, you know, the preseason

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Speaker 1: McBay even said this during the owners meetings. He said,

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Speaker 1: We're probably going to take a similar approach to what

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Speaker 1: we did last year, where you know, you saw some

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Speaker 1: didn't show much in the preseason games. Well, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't expect to see a lot of Andrew Whitworth out there. Sure,

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Speaker 1: whole lot. It's a big year for guys like him,

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Speaker 1: big year for Brian Allen. We've talked a lot about him.

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Speaker 1: Big year for guys like big year for guys like

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Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee going into a contract year. You're really gonna

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Speaker 1: have to show improve Marcus Peters, guys like that. How

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Speaker 1: do you get them work the work they need to

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Speaker 1: be great in the regular season, but you want to

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Speaker 1: back off in preseason, so that dance is always going

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Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a misnomer. It's stuff you see in preseason you're

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Speaker 1: all that stuff you see in preseason shows up in

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Speaker 1: but you know when you had those situations and you

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Speaker 1: it's it's way different. Two things about what happened in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: You're exactly right about the work. The second thing is

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Speaker 1: I want to be Azzy Newsome. Do you remember when

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Speaker 1: we were watching him post practice and he had a

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Speaker 1: It was nice. I'm like, I want to be that guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're in charge of everything which you get.

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Speaker 1: You can have a cooler with you at practice. That's cool.

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Speaker 1: That's almost better than Mike McCarthy you getting the massage,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where you can carry a cooler with you.

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Speaker 1: But no, I mean, but seriously, I mean practice, when

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Speaker 1: you're practicing against some other football team, or in preseason,

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Speaker 1: and let's just say they stacked the box with nine guys. Right,

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Speaker 1: you might keep the run on and the regular season

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Speaker 1: you're gonna check that, you know, that to something else

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Speaker 1: and find a more advantageous play. But in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: Let's put them on a phone booth, Let's see who

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Speaker 1: wants to be more physical that day. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: I think it does. And I think that's sort of why.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think I think most fans aren't like

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Speaker 1: necessarily win the game. They're trying to evaluate guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for you know the purpose of winning games down the road. Right,

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Speaker 1: And so that's where I think, you know, preseason and

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Speaker 1: just stupid. No one's getting work. We're out here hurting

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Speaker 1: appease the mob, where somebody in the crowd says, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's just fight, and then it turns into a fight, well,

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Speaker 1: this is stupid, right, low the whistle, let's get out

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Speaker 1: of here, right, yeah, right, And I think but I

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Speaker 1: that's what happened, right, They were able to get in

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Speaker 1: and you didn't see the brawls unless oh completely forgetting something. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think it's easier when you don't

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Speaker 1: I want to pick this time to wage this personal

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Speaker 1: then you lose an entire day of preparation. So there's

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Speaker 1: no point we're doing it. We saw that in seventeen

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Speaker 1: can pull it down and he can he can run.

423
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: He can just move the football at will, even without

424
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,440
Speaker 1: if the play breaks down, it's not dead for him

425
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 1: because of his legs. If that makes any what does

426
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 1: That guy's a name that plays for the Saints, and

427
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 1: I want to call him Grayson Allen, which says thing

428
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: about me. But number seven I can see it, and

429
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: it's since you said it now it's gone. The change

430
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 1: of pace guy, yes, the change of page, change of

431
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 1: face quarterback, the gadget guy. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking it up. Yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, thank thank you. Just say it man, say

433
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Speaker 1: oh wow, don't whisper lord anyway, I wanted to call

434
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 1: him Grace, give you a mic. Now that Taysom Hill

435
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: is the same kind of quarterback. Right, And we saw

436
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: this when the Rams played the Saints at so I

437
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: can't remember if it was the first game of the

438
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: second game, but it was fourth down. They had it

439
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: played right, the defense had it played right. He pulls

440
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 1: it down and he runs with it and he gets

441
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: five yards in the first down. Right. That's the difference

442
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 1: that you have with a quarterback who's got that kind

443
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: of mobility ability. True, I would love to have a

444
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 1: guy like that for Jared Goff or any I think

445
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: any coordinator, if you could, if you can add another guy,

446
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: it would be a guy like that that you can

447
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 1: substitute in for your traditional pocket passer. Could Blake Bortles

448
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: potentially be that kind of guy? No, God, no, why not?

449
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? I mean, I'm just saying

450
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: that because he is a quarterback with some ability. Yeah,

451
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: he can run a little bit. He can run a

452
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean I think he makes you know, hey,

453
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: running with the football when you least expect it. You know,

454
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't want him running on cold run plays

455
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: just so people can tee off on my quarterback. The

456
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: only reason Hill does what he does is because he

457
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 1: can take it. You know, the guy's been doing this

458
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: for a long time. He's not just a quarterback. You've

459
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: seen the way he looks. Yes, you wouldn't say that

460
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: guy's a quarterback. You say that guy's a safety. You

461
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean, the way he looks portals is

462
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can run right and leave it at that. Yeah, Okay, No,

463
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. We're just we're talking about scenarios.

464
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: This is April where we spitball different things. Yeah, you

465
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Speaker 1: got to be able to when you run like that,

466
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Speaker 1: you got to be able to take what comes on

467
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: the other end of runs like that. Right when you're

468
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: putting yourself in harm's way. Sometimes somebody's gonna have your

469
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: boxed in. You're gonna take one or two. We're gonna

470
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: have to be able to take that, get up and

471
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: walk back to the huddle. You know what I mean. Yes,

472
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: certain quarterbacks aren't built that way. Okay, yeah, no, I

473
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Speaker 1: just it was just an idea that yeah my head. Honestly,

474
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's something, but I can't wait

475
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: to see him in preseasons in this offense. Yeah exactly.

476
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: I mean, this is going to be really his chance

477
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Speaker 1: to show what he can do. Heading. I mean, he's

478
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: in a contract year and he said, you know, to

479
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: us and to the media at large, you know, I

480
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: want to come here so I could improve myself as

481
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Speaker 1: a quarterback and then have a chance to maybe be

482
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Speaker 1: a starter once again in this league. You know, he

483
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: feels like he should be able to do that, and yeah,

484
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see. I think his reputation was toast

485
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Even

486
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: no matter what he did well or the good, Blake

487
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: Bortles was always going to be overshadowed by what they

488
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: thought of him. So fresh, start out here, you know

489
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, Get some of that Sean McVay, shine,

490
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: and just run this offense and let's see how good

491
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Speaker 1: you really are. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,

492
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: And you don't have to be the guy here. You

493
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: don't have to answer questions after games. That's Jared Goff's job.

494
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: You just have to get ready and prepare yourself to play,

495
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,239
Speaker 1: that's all. And prepare and help to prepare him to play, right,

496
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: And that's that's all you really need to do as

497
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. You know, you're always one play away.

498
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: And I think, and we talked about this before, that's

499
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: the good thing about having a guy like Blake Bortles

500
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: who actually has more starting experience than a Jared Goff, right,

501
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: you know, because and this is no disc to Sean Mangan,

502
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: who you know, congratulations with him, he signed a deal

503
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: with the Vikings. But when you have a guy like

504
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: Sean Mangan who is inexperienced and has to come in,

505
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 1: there's just a difference there, right, right, Sean Mangan has

506
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: not played really in a game of consequence since he

507
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 1: was at Oregon State, you know, he just hasn't. And

508
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: so when you have Blake Bortles, who has played in

509
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Speaker 1: games of consequence one playoff games, been to the AFC

510
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Championship game in New England, that I think does mean

511
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: something when you say, all right, it's week four and

512
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: Jared Goff just sprained an ankle. Now we need you

513
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: to come in for if you play. You know what

514
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this is a Caddy upgrade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

515
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: that's a good way of fine. Right now. This is

516
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: a guy that's, like you said, has starters experience. You know,

517
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: he's the guy that's been through everything that Sean Mannion

518
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: wants to wants to go through at some point in

519
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: his life. And he's not there yet. So this is

520
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: definitely enough grade. And it's not to say that I

521
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: wish anything bad on Manion. Yes, yes, one hit and

522
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: he could be in the game exactly. Yeah, yes, And

523
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. And maybe with a different staff,

524
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 1: different scheme, you might actually get to see with what

525
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: he really can do in this offense with that rocket arm.

526
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Speaker 1: The one thing we always said about Manyon is a

527
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: guy throws at a thousand miles an hour, not sure

528
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: where it's going, but he can throw it a thousand

529
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Speaker 1: miles an hour. Yes, right, yes, yes, no doubt about it.

530
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Speaker 1: All right, So let's start it to the off season

531
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Speaker 1: program a little bit, which starts next Monday. We're five

532
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: days away from the start of the off season program,

533
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: which is cool. I mean the guys get back in

534
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: the building, they can finally talk football again with Sean McVay.

535
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: But you know, you cannot have any coaching out on

536
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Speaker 1: the field. That's the tenant of phase one of the

537
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: off season program. Only strength and conditioning can go on

538
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: on the field. So I guess what are you looking

539
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: forward to from the RAMS off season program. Well, if

540
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: you waited until then to start working out, you're late. Yeah.

541
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: Obviously you've seen the videos of Aaron Donald, right, yeah, yeah,

542
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: the guy can play right now. Yeah, probably he never

543
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: gets out of shape. And I think that that is

544
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: the new NFL. That's the new NFL player. There is

545
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: no off season, so this is just a it's it's

546
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: more of a formality. It's just get your groups together

547
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: in one uniform so you can look at him. But

548
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: you should be really working out before this program starts.

549
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: Usually in years past, you took a break, you had

550
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: an off season, and then you use the off season

551
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: program to get into shape. This is you're already in shape.

552
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: You stay in shape, and you're just you're doing the

553
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: same things you would do elsewhere, just here with your team.

554
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: Is that if that makes any sense? Yes, yes, And

555
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: I think that you should be you should be doing

556
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: that right. Yeah. Well, and you know it's interesting you

557
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: we've talked about before. How you know you see the

558
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: mantras on the walls in at cal Lutheran where the

559
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: standard is the standard. That's one of my favorites. And

560
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: you got a guy like Aaron Donald. He sets the

561
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: standard right. And it's something that Samson Abucom said in

562
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: an interview that he did for Behind the Ground and

563
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: I think that will be in this week's episode, which

564
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: premieres tomorrow at six o'clock. Can watch that on Facebook

565
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: watch and on the Rams dot com and on the

566
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: Rams mobile app yep. But what he was talking about

567
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: is when you see somebody like Aaron Donald and he

568
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: is a man of twenty and a half sacks, right,

569
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: the best defensive player in the league. I think we

570
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: can say that definitively, and you see him working out

571
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: the way he's working out in these videos. How can

572
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: that not motivate you to want to do better, to

573
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Speaker 1: want to go out and actually and make sure you're

574
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Speaker 1: competing against yourself and getting better on a day to

575
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: day basis too. Some guys just don't have the same

576
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: passion and some guys will look at that and say like, wow,

577
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: he's crazy. Well, he's just got more passion for the

578
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: game than you. You know what I mean, if you

579
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: had a twenty sacks season. I mean, you're on a boat,

580
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: your cruise into Tahiti and you've reached it. Mom, I'm here,

581
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm at the I'm at the pinnacle. Well, he wants

582
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: to get better. You know, what he did doesn't matter.

583
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: It's only what he's about to do from this point.

584
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: So guys like him are rare, you know what I mean,

585
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: No doubt how they're rare. But how can it not

586
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: motivate you? I mean, if you're a guy that's held

587
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: bent on just relaxing at this part of the year,

588
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: that would drive you nuts because it shows you up right,

589
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I could see how

590
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: guys would be like that would just I don't even

591
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: want to see that guy working out, or I would

592
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: call him and say, hey, can you dial it back

593
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: some or just not? Can you just not post that

594
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: on socially? Yeah, we're supposed to be rescuing now, right,

595
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I've already gained forty pounds

596
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: and here you are, You're you're showing off. You know,

597
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: washboard apps. You're making me look bad. Hey, look get

598
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: whether it or get gone. That's just the way it is.

599
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The standard is the standard. You know.

600
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: You see it from Robert Woods and Brandon Cooks. Those

601
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: guys were on vacation together with their wives. I think

602
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: they were in Thailand. Ers doing stairs, yes, jumping around

603
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: in Thailand working out. If you're in Thailand, just vacation, man,

604
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: Just vacation. Have some fun, no workouts. When you get

605
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: back to the States, start working out. Hey, man. But

606
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The standard is the standard, right, Yeah,

607
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: program's good, right, you know what, you have to be

608
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: working when other people aren't. Yeah, that's the nature of

609
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: to me, it's the nature of sports, no doubt. So man. Yeah,

610
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I hope everybody's working. Look, by the

611
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: time you put on pads, if you're not ready for

612
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: a d if you're not ready for these receivers, they're

613
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna blow by you, exactly. And if you're a guy

614
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: that's got one or two reps per day to prove

615
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: that you should be here, you better be working just

616
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: as hard as they are because you're only going to

617
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: get one or two and they're gonna be ready to

618
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: go day one. Yes, exactly. So that's the one thing

619
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Speaker 1: that I think happens in the first part of the

620
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Speaker 1: offseason program. You're either like, Okay, I'm I'm where I

621
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: need to be or man, I need to catch up.

622
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I missed the old mini

623
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: camp days and you know where guys were when they'd

624
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: work out and you can smell alcohol, you know what

625
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean. You know, I mean, we're going, but we're

626
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: not going too hard. It's a different era now. I

627
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: mean the way practice is in training camp and in

628
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: the regular season it's it's not so strenuous. But the

629
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Speaker 1: one thing they do demand is that you're in shape,

630
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, twelve months a year. Yes, yes, So that's

631
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: the Aaron Donald thing it needs to be. That's going

632
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: to be more commonplace than you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, probably.

633
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I think the one of the interesting elements of the

634
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: offseason program. When you get into something like year three

635
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: of a program with a coach, it makes it very

636
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: different than say, you know, when you're integrating new coordinators

637
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: every year, when you've got a new head coach, different

638
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: things like that. It's like stepping up from advanced maths

639
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: to calculus, right pretty much. Yeah, especially on offense, you

640
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: can continue to implement new things. You can say, Okay,

641
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: what do we need to work on from last year,

642
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: and then work on that as we get through things,

643
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's in the classroom or then in

644
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: phase two we can start working on things in situations.

645
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: In phase three we can work on it against the

646
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: defense as well. And I think about this Joe Thomas,

647
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: who future Hall of Fame left tackle of the Cleveland Browns,

648
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: who once said who I once read a quote from him,

649
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: and it was basically to the effect of, you know,

650
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: here in Cleveland, when we get to April, we're introducing

651
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: ourselves to the new coach, to new teammates knew everything

652
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: every single year. Whereas with the Saints they've had Sean

653
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Payton and Drew Brees for so many years. They get

654
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: to work on what they were bad at the last year.

655
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: You don't have to introduce a new offense. Right. They're

656
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: trying to step up and improve and I think that's

657
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: where the Rams are right now, where they can work

658
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: on things and improve that on specific elements to heaven

659
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: and hell of making the super Bowl. Here's the heaven part.

660
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: You're in the Super Bowl, right and you're a pretty

661
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: good football team. The hell of it, you're picking at

662
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: thirty one, right, Yeah, some of those top ten guys

663
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: if they wound up here, oh my god. Yeah, Oh

664
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: my god, especially some of those really fast tight ends

665
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: that you know, Sean McVay would love, or some of

666
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: those edge rushing or defensive tackles that are top ten

667
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: worthy that you don't have a shot at because you're

668
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: already a pretty good football team. So it's the heaven

669
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: and hell of being great, you know what I mean? Yes, yeah,

670
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: you don't get to pick those guys, but you just

671
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: you ended the season in February. It's awesome, but you're

672
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna miss out on some of the best college players

673
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: coming into the NFL. You're gonna have to play against

674
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: those guys, now, yes, fell in your division. I mean yeah,

675
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: The Niners and the Cardinals are one and two in

676
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: this upcoming draft, So that's part of it. What's that?

677
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: What's the tight end that's supposed to go number one?

678
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: I can't remember his name? The Iowa guy? Yes, is

679
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: Hackman Hawkinson t Hockinson. Oh my goodness, that is that

680
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: kid in San Francisco, reborn George Kittle. No, the other one,

681
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: the tight end, the fullback, oh child us, Oh my god,

682
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: that guy. That guy's a problem. Yeah, wherever he winds up,

683
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: that's an issue, I'm telling you for whoever, division wise,

684
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: whoever has to cover him, that guy's going to be

685
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: a problem. Well. See, so you bring up something interesting

686
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: because when we were on mailbag last week and you

687
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: were fishing and catching halibut, Jabe and I took a

688
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: question that was essentially what position would surprise you for

689
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: the Rams in the draft? And I mean I said, okay,

690
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: what position would be a surprise And I said tight

691
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 1: end because I think that might surprise people given the

692
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: way that you know, the Rams seem to have more

693
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: needs on defense. But I still think that if you

694
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: get a chance to get a tight end that can

695
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: be really effective in this offense, that's something that the

696
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Rams might do because what is the one position on

697
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: the offense that maybe has not produced to a level

698
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: that's like, really really high in the last two years

699
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: under Sean mcvay's tight end. I was gonna say running back.

700
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: I was just kidding, just to see your face change.

701
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Yeah, you're on a roll. No, But

702
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's funny because I wrote this in

703
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: an article last month about Everett gerald efforts potential improvement

704
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. And you gotta remember if Gerald Everett

705
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: is still a guy that they picked in the second round,

706
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: he's somebody that, to you know, my understanding, the rams

707
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: are still pretty high on But I don't think that

708
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: would preclude them from taking another tight end, no, because

709
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: why right? Yeah, But like, if you're looking for tight

710
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: end improvement, this is what you know. I wrote, tight

711
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: ends have accounted for only one hundred and seven receptions

712
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: for one thousand, two hundred and twenty seven yards with

713
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns right in two years. So bringing that down further,

714
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: it's an average of fifty three and a half receptions

715
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: for six hundred and thirteen and a half yards with

716
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: four touchdowns per season from the tight ends group. Right,

717
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: that's a place where you want to be able to

718
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: get better because it will make the offense better, no doubt. Well,

719
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at where the ball is going.

720
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about guys. First Cup and then you have

721
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: to go Cooks and then Woods and then Todd Gurley

722
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: takes up a chunk of the carry's end receptions. Right,

723
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: So if you're going to throw to the tight end

724
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: more than someone else is seeing a few less balls, right,

725
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: I can only imagine that's probably going to be Todd

726
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: Gurley unless he says I'm a thousand percent and he's

727
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: going to be that same guy. So the tight end

728
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: is going to be more on front Street this season,

729
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: especially early in this offense. Yes, yeah, so, I mean, look,

730
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: it's not that Hidbey can't do it. I think he

731
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: is perfect for this offense. If he sees more passes,

732
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: I think you see more production. I think Gerald Everett

733
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: is a guy that takes it to a whole new

734
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: level because of his athleticism. But we haven't seen that

735
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: just yet. So if there's another guy sitting in the

736
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: draft that you have a chance to get that can

737
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: be just as dynamic or even more dynamic than the

738
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: guys you already have, I see no need why you

739
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: would say, well, we're fine here, we'll just pass on

740
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: this guy. Take that guy, put him in your offense,

741
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and see if he can be effective. I think part

742
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: of the reason why the Rams can do that is

743
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: because they've been so effective in structuring their team right

744
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: now so that you can really pencil in eleven starters

745
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: on offense and on defense now. And I say that

746
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: you can pencil them in because yes, guys can be replaced,

747
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: different things can happen, and we're still in April week

748
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: one as an until September. But because you've done that,

749
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: that means that the draft is wide open for you

750
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: and you don't have to fill a need immediately, and

751
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: that's pretty huge. I know what helps you, what would

752
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: have helped or what could have helped in the Super Bowl,

753
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: so to speak. And I bet you'll see this more

754
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: as twelve personnel. When you have two tight ends on

755
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: the field, it balances out the defense. You really can't

756
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: key on one side or the other because there's two

757
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: tight ends out there now right so, and it makes

758
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: your quarterback have to be that much better and that

759
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: much more accurate and that much more deceptive. But I

760
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: think Jared Goff can do it, So I would bet

761
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: dollars to donuts you'll see a lot more twelve out

762
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: of Sean McVay coming into this season, and he'll be

763
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: just as dynamic with the same two guys. If you

764
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: want to add one more guy into that mix that

765
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: can be just as dynamic too. Like I said, it'll

766
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: be hard for them to say no to another pass

767
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: catching tight end, right, And I would not doubt that.

768
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: I think Sean McVay is kind of addressed it a

769
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: little bit and saying that Gerald Everett was a guy

770
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: that they really did have plans for, but he suffered

771
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: that shoulder injury in August last year, so that kind

772
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: of set him back for a little bit. And he

773
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: had been doing a really good job in training camp

774
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: meeting Gerald Everett, but it just I don't think it

775
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: clicked as well as they would have liked to, in

776
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: part because of that injury that he suffered. Right, So

777
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: you missed time and then you know, it sets you

778
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: back and then boom you're you're in the middle of

779
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: the regular season. And at that point, you know, until

780
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup went out, you weren't gonna give up eleven

781
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: personal because it was working really well and you got

782
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: to eight no, Right, So I think that's part of it,

783
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, look, you're getting into year three for him. Yeah,

784
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: So in the business of football, it stands the reason

785
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: that you need to start balling if you want to

786
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: see a payday yep. Yeah, So I mean like same

787
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: thing with Tyler Higbee. You're moving up on a contract year,

788
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: so both of those guys should be extra motivated. Well,

789
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: and I think when you talk about the tight end

790
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: in elements that the Rams could stand to improve going

791
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: into twenty nineteen. I think these two things are connected,

792
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: the tight end production and red zone production, right, because

793
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team in the Rams that, yes,

794
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: they finished second in scoring, which it's hard to really

795
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: complain about offensive production when you're doing that, but they

796
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: still rank eighteenth in red zone touchdown percentage and twenty

797
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: second in goal to go to a touchdown percentage? Crazy

798
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, And then again, this is a team

799
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: that finished second in scoring. So you know, how much

800
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: better could this team have been if you really are

801
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns more in the red zone. Yeah, that's it's

802
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: kind of wild to think about. It's funny. I think

803
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm backwards and I think I'm more in line with

804
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: with coach McVay. I think I think we had this discussion.

805
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: When people think red zone, they think throw the ball. No,

806
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: this is where I want to run the hell out

807
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: of it. Yes, yeah, this is where I've got everything constricted,

808
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: and I think I can if I if I break

809
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: one tackle, I'm in the end zone and at least

810
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: I can get the defense to collapse and then I

811
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: can throw the ball over your head. That's the only

812
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: thing that makes it work, right right. But I think

813
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: some teams just get real pass happy in the red zone,

814
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: and you know, well, what do they say when the

815
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: balls in the air, three things are happening? Two more bad? Yes, yeah,

816
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: two are bad. So I mean running the football in

817
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: the red zone to me, I think makes you a

818
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: better at red zone offense. Well. The funny thing too,

819
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: is that Todd Gurley had twenty one touchdowns and he

820
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: still led the league and he didn't play basically the

821
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: last two to three games of the season, right right,

822
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: So again it's kind of hard to complain about these

823
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: kinds of things. But if you're at a place now

824
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: in terms of the RAMS and especially their offense, where

825
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: you can nitpick and if we're gonna nitpick, this is

826
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: something where it's like, Okay, this is something clear that

827
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: this team can get better at. And so that's what

828
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: I think that you know, especially if you have a

829
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: tight end who can be that guy the big mismatch

830
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: guy in the red zone. That's where that can really improve, right, Um, yeah,

831
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean we'll see. I mean, like, I think you've

832
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: had shots with tight ends here with Higbee in the

833
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: end zone that just weren't caught. So you had opportunities

834
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: to score there with big tight ends. So I think

835
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: you've already you've got the offense, you just didn't have

836
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: the production to back it up. There were some bad

837
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: things that happened, some unfortunate things that happened, but like

838
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: you said, it didn't matter much because you wound up

839
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl and scored thirty points a game exactly. Yeah.

840
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: So it's interesting, you know, you when you look at

841
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: the top four teams in scoring that we're also the

842
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: top four teams left in the a f C and

843
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: NFC championship games. Kansas City was second in red zone percentage,

844
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: tenth in goal to go scoring situations Kelsey, Yeah, exactly.

845
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: New Orleans was fourth in red zone scoring, number one

846
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: in goal to go Kamara and right. But the New

847
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: England was fifteenth in the red zone and twenty sixth

848
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: in goal to go and they and they won the

849
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Super defending champions right. Yeah. So there are what is it.

850
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: There are stats, there are lies. There are damn lies

851
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: in there, six right, yes, yes, exactly. So it's interesting

852
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: if you take a look at it that way. Yeah,

853
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: it's it's still something that I think the Rams get improved,

854
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, look, it's it's a number. I mean,

855
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: everybody wants to, you know, be ranked number one and everything,

856
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: but that's just impossible. And you'd have to go back

857
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: and look at every single game as to why you you.

858
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you had a lack of success in

859
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: the red zone right right, Maybe you're scoring from a

860
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: thousand miles out, you know what I mean? Times you did, yeah, sometime,

861
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of the times you did, and sometimes

862
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: you just had a lot of unfortunate things happen in

863
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the red zone. But even when you can't score there,

864
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: you still have the benefit of Gregg's airline. Yeah, no

865
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: matter where you are, if you can't score, you still

866
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: have points in your pocket, and that could come from

867
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: the paint as we saw. Yes, yes, no doubt about it.

868
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: What positions do you think that there are the Rams

869
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: are mostly candidates for at thirty one right now. Offensive line,

870
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: defensive line, definitely a line d line at thirty one,

871
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: and I would bet it's going to be one of

872
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: those tackles. It depends on what happens with Kyler Murray

873
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: and how this thing plays out with these quarterbacks now

874
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: that Drew Locke has come in and may replace Haskins

875
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: as the third quarterback or one of the quarterbacks off

876
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: the board, and if these teams start moving up and down.

877
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: But at thirty one, I would bet it's either going

878
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: to be a defensive tackle because this draft is loaded

879
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: with them, or an offensive lineman guaranteed, and you can't

880
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: go wrong with either one. You need both, yes, you do.

881
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: You need to establish more depth at both of them spots. Now,

882
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I think depending on I don't know what you might

883
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: see in the offseason program and what you know, how

884
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: the Rams might feel when Brian Allen come in, when

885
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Joe Nopoom come in May, that may say, Okay, we

886
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: can wait for a little bit and maybe get some

887
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: offensive line depth later where we want maybe a guy

888
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: who's more of a now impact guy at thirty one.

889
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: You know, if he's a can't miss guy. And I

890
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: think blythe is coming up on a contract year. I

891
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: believe he's a free agent in twenty twenty. Yes, yeah,

892
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: I believe he is. So he's coming up and if

893
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: he has a fantastic year, who knows. But you're gonna

894
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: need depth there, no doubt, no doubt. Your whole bread

895
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: and butter is Jared Gopp protecting him and getting the

896
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: ball down the field. So if there's if if it's

897
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: down between a first round offensive lineman that's still there

898
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: at thirty one or a first round defensive tackle or

899
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: edge rusher that's sitting there at thirty one, I'd probably

900
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: go a line because I think you can get more

901
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: of those tackles and edge rushers. Second round, third round,

902
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: fourth round. Definitely, this draft is loaded with defensive players. Okay, yeah,

903
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. And I think you know,

904
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: based on the mock drafts that I see, and you

905
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: can't base too much of those things on that, but

906
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: like there's seem to be some really good quality, high

907
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: quality offensive lineman that the Rams could also pick at

908
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: those spots. And especially because look, you have a young

909
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. Your offense is kind of predicated on the

910
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: run game, I think more than people think. So you

911
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: need to be able to run the ball effectively. You

912
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: have to be able to protect Jared Goff effectively. So

913
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: those five spots up front on the offensive line are critical,

914
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to make sure you

915
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: have depth there as you know, the offensive line gets

916
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: older or comes up on contract. Here, No, no, I'm

917
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: so with you on running the football with this team.

918
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: If Todd Gurley is ripping off runs six seven yard

919
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: yards per carry like in the first and second quarter,

920
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: then Jared Goff's going to have a hell of a

921
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: day and Sean McVay is going to have one of

922
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: those magical days calling plays. Because you can run the football.

923
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: When you stop the run, then this team has trouble

924
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: moving the football. But every team has trouble moving the

925
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: football when you're stoping them. Well, I mean that's the

926
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: Vikings game, right, no doubt. Right, you know we saw

927
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: that on Thursday Night football. Jared Goff was incredible in

928
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: that game and a perfect passer rating and he did

929
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: everything that he had to do executing throws. But Sean

930
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: McVay also had a brilliant game calling it. And you

931
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: also saw the rams were effective upfront and they could

932
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: block whoever they needed to block, no doubt. If you

933
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: can control the middle control those linebackers and give those

934
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: safety something else to think about. Then eventually you'll slip

935
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: somebody behind him. It's just a matter of time. Yes, yes, exactly. Um,

936
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about this Aaron

937
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Rodgers Mike McCarthy thing brought usage right, he was getting

938
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: the allegedly vehemently denied that. Of course, wouldn't you. Yes,

939
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm a big guy. I choose to believe it because

940
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. I'm a big proponent of lie

941
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: till you die, right, like, and so I'm not saying

942
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was doing that. Well, Like, isn't that just

943
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: an interesting story? An interesting amount of things that just

944
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: have come out from that. Aaron Rodgers goes on the

945
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: radio in Milwaukee and like really blows it up because

946
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of athletes or people basically

947
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: responding to things like that in the manner that he did. Well. Okay,

948
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: the economics of football, right, when you pay your quarterback,

949
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you can't really build a team, right because they're making

950
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: all the money, and once you hand the keys to

951
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: the franchise over to that quarterback, you're kind of stuck.

952
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Look at Pittsburgh Fair Now look at Green Bay, you

953
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They paid the guys and now

954
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: they can say and do what they want. They don't care.

955
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: They know they're going to be at the starter and

956
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: they know they're making a mint. You know what I mean. Yes,

957
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different attity. It kind of retards football,

958
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: the team building aspect. It kind of changes the the

959
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: head coach quarterback dynamic. And when the quarterback starts to

960
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 1: challenge the head coach or challenge people publicly, the other

961
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: fifty two guys split half or with the quarterback half

962
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: or with the head coach, and guess where you go nowhere? Right? Yeah,

963
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: you get knocked out of the playoffs or you don't

964
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs, right yeah, Well that and guess

965
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: who's guaranteed to come back? The quarterback is the only

966
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: guy guaranteed to come back. Right. You can't rid of

967
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: them exactly. Gave that much money, right. That's why I'm

968
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: curious what the Seattle is going to do with Russell Wilson.

969
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: That's where I was going with, Oh, I'm sorry, if

970
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: he's starting an angle towards I want the biggest contract

971
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: in the world, And what if they're not willing to

972
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: give him one. But shouldn't they be? Why? Well, because

973
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: of what he's done. Okay, what did he do? He's

974
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: won them a super Bowl when uh oh, well when

975
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: the defense wanted, when the defense took out Peyton Manning. Okay,

976
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's bad, but go ahead. No, but then,

977
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean they were an interception in away from winning

978
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: a second true. Right, he took them to the playoffs

979
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: in a year where they were not supposed to be

980
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: very good. He's set a record for touchdown passes in

981
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Okay, you know what I'm saying. I

982
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: paid Ever, that's the way contracts work though. Okay, but

983
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: just because just the way the market works, that's the

984
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: way it's been done, or that's history. Do you think

985
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: that you should pay that guy that much money? Yes?

986
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: I do. You would pay them all that money? I would,

987
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: because what else are you going to lose half your team?

988
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily lose half your team. It's all about

989
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: no but DeMarco, they made the playoffs this last year

990
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: basically running the football, yes, running the football, running the

991
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: daylights out of the ball, yes, and figuring out a

992
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 1: way to win. Right, because you have to go with

993
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: what you're and I thought Pete Carroll did a really

994
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: nice job of this. Adapting and adjusting your program to

995
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: what you've got right or finding players in the draft,

996
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: in free agency wherever it may be that fit your

997
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: program and fit the style where you want to win.

998
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: That's what that's what building a program is all about.

999
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: How you get sustained success in the NFL. But it

1000
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: starts with making sure you have a quarterback. No, wait

1001
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: a minute, who can get you there? But before it

1002
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: was legion of boom defense, right, right, So it's it's

1003
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: not just about one quarterback taking you there. If you

1004
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: build a team the right way, you can do it

1005
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: with an average quarterback. You can be competitive with an

1006
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: average guy at quarterback if your team is built the

1007
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: right way. Okay, if you're smart about it. Look at

1008
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: the opposite way. Look at what's happening in Detroit, Look

1009
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: at what happened in Baltimore. When you pay one guy

1010
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: a ton of money and you start the hemorrhage talent,

1011
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: you're good. You're okay? Are you competitive? Are you going

1012
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: to compete for Super Bowls every year because you paid

1013
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback? No, there's no guarantee. Well, but what about

1014
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: I think what you have to do in those situations

1015
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: is say who are you drafting? Right? True, you have

1016
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: to be smart, have to hit on those picks every

1017
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: single year. That's what I mean about building a program.

1018
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: When you are able to identify exactly who's going to

1019
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: work for your football program, both on and off the field,

1020
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: that's what helps you sustain success. The Patriots are obviously

1021
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: an anomaly, but you have other teams like Baltimore, which

1022
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: have got Brady on the cheap right twice. I know

1023
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: Bimore by and large has been successful for the last

1024
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen years, right. Yeah. They have the same

1025
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: infrastructure of the former Cleveland Browns, which is something that

1026
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk about because I have a

1027
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of opinions on that. But you also have the

1028
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers who have sustained success over a long period

1029
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: of time. The Green Bay Packers until this year, or

1030
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: another team sustained success over a long period of time

1031
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: because you have a program that you have built. True. Right,

1032
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens to Pittsburgh this year. Yes, yeah,

1033
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose Levion Bell and Antonio Brown. It basically

1034
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: in the same two years and still expect to be competitive.

1035
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: We'll see, yes, okay, we'll see no. Yeah, right, And

1036
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: I agree with you. But I mean the Colts are

1037
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: another team that we're able to sustain success for a

1038
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: long period of time, you know what I'm saying. And

1039
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: they had one of the best quarterbacks of all time

1040
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: time for a lot of that, but with Andrew Luck,

1041
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: then they've also been able to be competitive and show

1042
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: they also went to the playoffs last year they won

1043
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,479
Speaker 1: a playoff game. So wow, these are teams that I'm

1044
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: just saying, like, and they paid Andrew Luck too. True.

1045
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: So there is a way to sustain success if you

1046
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: are building a program the right way. I hope they do.

1047
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: I hope they do. In Seattle, I hope they tie

1048
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: up all that money in one guy. I do. I

1049
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: hope they give him the biggest contract ever. Yeah, because

1050
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: you're saying this because it benefits the ring. I'm just saying,

1051
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: I hope they do. I hope they pay him and

1052
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: give him the biggest contract in NFL history. Let's see

1053
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Speaker 1: how those numbers work in two seasons. Let's see who's

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00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: left up there coaching coaching included. Yeah, if you're paying

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Speaker 1: that right, right, Let's see, let's see who's left at

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Speaker 1: the end of that deal. Yes, right, all right. Um.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I do want to also talk about

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here is Pagic Johnson's surprise resignation, Wow,

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Speaker 1: from being Lakers president. Last have you ever seen anything like? No,

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Speaker 1: you should at least call your boss right before you quit,

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Speaker 1: because that's basically what happened. Magic quit, Yes, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: right before randomly I'm seeing right before a game. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he quit before he was going to get fired. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, because this is a mess. Yeah, the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are a complete mess right now, which is bizarre to think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you get the best player in the

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Speaker 1: world and you still have this happen, I know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's odd, it's funny. I never thought i'd see

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Speaker 1: the day where Magic stepped down and you know, before

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Speaker 1: he was asked to you know what I mean, without

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Speaker 1: talking to anybody in the bus family about doing it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it just it's an odd situation. I think

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Speaker 1: it kind of like in Arizona, like in Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: there's something screwball going on behind the scenes that even

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Speaker 1: we don't know. Probably and there's so much coverage on

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Speaker 1: the Lakers here that you think you know everything about

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Speaker 1: this team, but there's there's a lot more that we

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Speaker 1: don't know. Well, it's just it's so interesting to me

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Speaker 1: because is you know, when you start seeing things like

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Speaker 1: that on Twitter, it's kind of like, wait, what right?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, And I just it means there's if

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Speaker 1: you're Magic Johnson and you do that, like there is

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Speaker 1: only a probably a few people in the United States

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Speaker 1: who could resign a job and the way he did

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Speaker 1: and still have positive opinions about them, Like there's exactly

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's you have some kind of

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Speaker 1: clout in order to be able to do that. Baby's

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Speaker 1: like hook baby sky hook to win in Boston. Yeah, forever, forever,

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Speaker 1: you get a pass forever, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I think it's really interesting the way that

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Speaker 1: all went down. Just it's a shock. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was the funniest quote. He said, I

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Speaker 1: was happier before I took this job. Yea, like Magic, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel

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00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: the same, you know what I mean. Well, he's also

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00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: talking about basically like he wants to send tweets right right,

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Speaker 1: Like he's like, I can't acknowledge Dwayne Wade's last game,

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Speaker 1: and I want to do that. I want to be

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Speaker 1: able to beat everybody's big brother. I want magic in

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Speaker 1: that same situation, that same vein as Charles Barkley and

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Speaker 1: Shack where they can talk about their sport. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Yes, I think his voice is necessary.

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Speaker 1: It's needed in today's NBA, you know, because like in football,

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Speaker 1: we don't really celebrate the past, and I think we

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Speaker 1: lose our way sometimes, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 1: when we have guys, the greats that are there to

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Speaker 1: talk about the game, to shepherd the young, you know,

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Speaker 1: to get them to understand that the game wasn't invented

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Speaker 1: with you. It's been around longer than you. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be around longer than you. You know what I mean. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think especially in this in this sport, we lose

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Speaker 1: sight of how long this game has been around. The

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Speaker 1: stuff we're seeing out of Beckham, Odell Beckham Junior we've

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Speaker 1: seen before, you know what I mean. Yes, The stuff

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Speaker 1: we're seeing out of Todd Gurley we've seen before. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, But as of right now, it

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Speaker 1: seems like the game was invented with them. If that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. I think it does, And I think what

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Speaker 1: you're saying is true. Right. You want to be able

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Speaker 1: to really celebrate that history from the history, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then apply it to what we can do today. What

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Speaker 1: was the game is very cyclical. The best quote I

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Speaker 1: heard it was about Michael Jordan what was his name?

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Speaker 1: The Celtics the Oh my god, nope, the other one. Nope,

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Speaker 1: the other one, go back farther. Use Bill Russell, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god Russell. Yeah, I wow, that's really bad

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Speaker 1: because I said Walton. Then I'm at Russell. I'm bringing

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Speaker 1: up the point I can't remember the guy's name, but

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Speaker 1: Bill Russell's played. Bill Russell leaned over to Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: and said, remember, you're the next me. M Imagine the

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Speaker 1: stones it takes to say that to Jordan, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just remember you're great, but you are the next me.

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Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a Lebron and Kobe after you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm sad that this is the

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Speaker 1: way it ended for Magic with the Lakers, you know,

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Speaker 1: running the team, But I'm happy that you get Magic back,

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Speaker 1: you know, and at a more national level. Now we

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Speaker 1: can talk to him about basketball as the ambassador absolute basketball,

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Speaker 1: and I think that, you know what, that's where he

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Speaker 1: wants to be, and I think he should be able

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Speaker 1: to do it. The thing that struck me too about

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Speaker 1: what he was saying is, you know when Ben Simmons

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Speaker 1: calls and he wants me to mentor him, and we

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Speaker 1: try to go through the proper channels and then it

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Speaker 1: becomes this whole big bruhaha. And like, I just I

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Speaker 1: want to be able to reach out and help the

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Speaker 1: next generation. And I think that that's something that's pretty admirable.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there are examples everywhere of Magic Johnson

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Speaker 1: wanting to do that to help people, and like that's

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Speaker 1: Magic at his best. So the Lakers next year won

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Speaker 1: a championship with Lebron and Magic has his first interview

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Speaker 1: and said, yeah, see I did that. I did that

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Speaker 1: by stepan aside. Magic ones again. I think that can

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Speaker 1: serve as our party shot. Everybody. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to this edition of Between the Horns. For more

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Speaker 1: of the RAMS off season and coverage of the RAMS

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Speaker 1: off season program, you should to check out the rams

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Speaker 1: back of it too.