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Speaker 1: Hi, I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 3: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 1: We are a sibling, railvalr No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 2: You don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 4: Revely, that's good.

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Speaker 1: This episode, this human We were about to listen to

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Speaker 1: this doctor Edith Eager and her daughters, but specifically Edith.

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Speaker 1: What an amazing conversation, What an incredible woman. This is

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Speaker 1: definitely in my top five episodes that we've done out

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Speaker 1: of the hundred.

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Speaker 2: It was by far, yeah, most powerful.

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Speaker 1: It was very powerful and incredible. She is a Holocaust survivor,

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Speaker 1: she's a psychologist, she's an author. Her daughters were incredible.

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Speaker 1: She invited me over to eat coogel, which I wish

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Speaker 1: that I could have gone, and I kind of still

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Speaker 1: want to go.

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Speaker 5: You know, where is she again?

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Speaker 1: She's in San Diego right here. I think we should

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Speaker 1: take her up on this because she's she's a fucking legend.

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Speaker 3: She's incredible.

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Speaker 1: She's like in her nineties and just on point right there.

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Speaker 1: Her daughter is Marianne Engel and Audrey Thompson.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and she shared with us, you know, about her

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Speaker 6: time in the concentration camp and how she was able

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Speaker 6: to get through it, and then what it was like

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Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable. And then she talks about sort of

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Speaker 1: part of her book too, is how grief and trauma

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Speaker 1: can just be passed down through these generations. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I understand that obviously not capacity that she has been

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Speaker 1: through in her family, but that shit does get passed down,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we have to break the cycles,

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Speaker 1: and how she's sort of found humor in these horrible situations,

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Speaker 1: and it was an incredible conversation.

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Speaker 3: She's she's like famous.

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Speaker 1: By the way, my bodie was talking about her the

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh really, yeah, I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: she was on my podcast, Like what And then I

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Speaker 1: how she was dancing for the Angel of Death.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like, she has the craziest fucking stories and she's so

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's you guys.

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Speaker 6: Are going to be unbelievable. It's really you're going to

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Speaker 6: enjoy this conversation. It's such a beautiful one. And here

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Speaker 6: is doctor Edith Eager and her daughters.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is so wonderful.

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Speaker 6: So, Marianne, you're in terms of all of the children,

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Speaker 6: how many kids are there?

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Speaker 5: My mother has? My mother has three children.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm the one who was born in Europe right when.

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Speaker 5: She was very rich, and my father and then they

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Speaker 5: were forced out by the Communists. We came to Baltimore,

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Speaker 5: and I wished I kept telling my parents I wanted

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Speaker 5: all three. And then we moved to Outpassa, Texas, and

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Speaker 6: Okay, great, so we're we got lucky Oliver. Because Audrey

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Speaker 3: Oh Edith, oh wow?

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Speaker 6: And yeah, and so she's there and I thought that's

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I know, I read the Atlantic article and

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Speaker 1: How that that the psychology that you use to just

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Speaker 8: Nine twenty seven in Czechoslovakia, and Aya, I know that

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Speaker 7: So I became a scholar.

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Speaker 8: Because I didn't know anything about peanut butter or tuna

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Speaker 6: More understood kind of American culture because how old were

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Speaker 5: A man I knew, so if I can just still

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Speaker 5: so basically, when she and her family got taken in Mangoleent,

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Speaker 5: So my mother then danced for Menga. And I don't

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Speaker 6: But then how old was Edith? How old were you

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Speaker 3: Well it's now I think it's Hungry and became Hungary.

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Speaker 5: And then she so she met my father after the war.

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Speaker 5: He was engaged to another woman. He fell in love

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Speaker 6: I want to start with something because you know, is

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Speaker 8: I didn't talk about almost twenty years I went under

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Speaker 7: It's not that I like it or not.

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Speaker 8: what I remember for me to forgive myself that I said,

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Speaker 8: Years after years after years, I'm getting better. When I

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was the turning point for you

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Speaker 8: I became very interested in PTSD, and I began to

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: You get these double messages because she has no profession,

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Speaker 8: She waited for us in our hometown, and she was

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Speaker 1: kind of a this is I just feel like was

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Speaker 1: there when you were there? Was there a game to

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Speaker 1: be played? Meaning did you have to be manipulative in

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Speaker 1: the sense of fighting for survival as far as with

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Speaker 1: the guards, you know, being cunning, being manipulative, making a

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Speaker 1: friendship maybe when you don't really want to. Was that

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Speaker 1: part of survival?

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Speaker 7: Night Blood?

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Speaker 8: Regularly they took our blood and I asked, why are you.

481
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Speaker 7: Taking my blood?

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Speaker 8: By the way, I love your tone of voice. You're

483
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Speaker 8: such a man's man voice.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, Ah, that's taking.

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Speaker 2: Were you talking about Oliver?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Oh, so he said to me, I'm taking your blood

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Speaker 10: to aid the German soldiers so.

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Speaker 8: We can we can win the war and take over

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Speaker 8: the world, especially America.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I couldn't yank my arm.

494
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Speaker 8: Maybe maybe I wouldn't be here telling you, but I

495
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Speaker 8: said to myself, you're stupid, idiot, You're gonna win the war.

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Speaker 7: With my blood. I'm a ballerina.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, I I and I learned how helpless I was

498
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Speaker 8: to change the outer environment. I had to change my

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Speaker 8: attitude and never ever give up hope. And so I

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Speaker 8: think it was very important to make a decision that

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Speaker 8: no matter what, this is temporary and I'm going to survive.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And and one I got one more sort of odd question.

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Speaker 1: How did humor? Did humor play in to your world?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because I'd love to talk about that, because

508
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Speaker 1: I even.

509
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Speaker 8: Had a hoop contest. Guess who won?

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Speaker 4: Who?

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Speaker 1: You explain that for a second. No, But but you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about the.

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Speaker 3: Power of humor.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very it can be a very

515
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Speaker 1: sort of it can be a medicine in a sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, but you.

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Speaker 8: Have to have cynicism and sarcasm and philosophical humor was better.

518
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 8: But I know that we talked about how Hitler is

519
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Speaker 8: going to die, and I think we had each other.

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Speaker 8: So we had to have cooperation, not competition or domination,

521
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 8: because all we had was each other then and all

522
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Speaker 8: we have is each other now. I live in a present.

523
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Speaker 8: I can only touch you now. I want you to

524
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Speaker 8: know that there were three sisters. The middle one either

525
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Speaker 8: chose the old one and they ended up doing things

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Speaker 8: with me, or the middle one choose me against the

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Speaker 8: oldest one.

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Speaker 7: There were two against one all the time. Yeah, well

529
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Speaker 7: tell them about how you.

530
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Speaker 5: Very much.

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Speaker 8: That we were always cooking. We were always cooking in

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Speaker 8: a camp, and we were fighting how much paprica I

533
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Speaker 8: put in my Hungarian goulash. And we were constantly looking

534
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 8: about nothing but food, nothing but food, and of course

535
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Speaker 8: the Hungarian chicken paprika at the strudal. Hungarian food comes

536
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 8: from Austria, and so food food we talked about all

537
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Speaker 8: the time. We were always hungry for affection, attention, and

538
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Speaker 8: I think it was very important for us to cooperate

539
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Speaker 8: and for a human family.

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Speaker 3: So it was food apartment. Food was part of the experience.

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Speaker 1: You were able to have ingredients to actually, you know,

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Speaker 1: make your food.

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Speaker 6: No, no, they would talk about it. They're saying, no,

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Speaker 6: not at all. They were saying that that just talking

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Speaker 6: about food. And how remembering kind of laughing about how

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Speaker 6: much paprika she put it on the wash was like

547
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 6: also probably brings when you look back on that time,

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Speaker 6: that food is such a huge part of how we

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Speaker 6: connect as a family and and what brings us together.

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Speaker 5: My mother has two books, and the second book is

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Speaker 5: The Gift, and there's a new version of it, and

552
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 5: we put two new chapters in that one is Living

553
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Speaker 5: through COVID and the other one is A Bad Food

554
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: and Love and which I wrote, And so we have

555
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Speaker 5: seventeen recipes in there. And also the discussion about when

556
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: they were so hungry, what these women talked about at

557
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 5: night was they were arguing about how they would make

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Speaker 5: food if they could. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 5: them became good cooks, but my mother certainly has become

560
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Speaker 5: a wonderful cook. And her mother never let her cook,

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Speaker 5: and my father's cook didn't let her. Book, so it

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Speaker 5: wasn't in America that she learned how to call.

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Speaker 3: When did you? When were Mary? And when were you aware?

564
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Speaker 3: When did you find out about about Mom's past? How

565
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: old were you? So?

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Speaker 5: I was about twelve, and I was I was a

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Speaker 5: reader and I'd read all books in the children's library whatever,

568
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Speaker 5: and my parents were readers. And so one day I

569
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Speaker 5: went into one of the places where there were books,

570
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Speaker 5: and there was a book in the back and I thought, well,

571
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 5: maybe it's about sex, right, pull it out, and instead

572
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: there are these horrible, disgusting pictures that did people. And

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Speaker 5: I took it to my father and I said, what

574
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Speaker 5: is this? And he said this is this is Auschwitz?

575
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Speaker 5: And I said, was Mom there? And he said yes.

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Speaker 3: Why did you ask that question?

577
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Speaker 5: Because I you know, my father was very protective with

578
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Speaker 5: my mother, and we all loved her so much, but

579
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Speaker 5: you didn't want to hurt her. And you could see

580
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Speaker 5: that there were some things that brightened her, like police party,

581
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: oasis and so. And we grew up with our grand here,

582
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Speaker 5: so we knew that the parents were dead.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I think I just started started putting

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Speaker 5: it together. And I have to say that now that

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Speaker 5: we've lived so we did in New York a lot

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Speaker 5: of the year, and then we go back to California

588
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Speaker 5: for summer and stuff like that. And being in New

589
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Speaker 5: York there are there are a lot of children of

590
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Speaker 5: call Puss about it, and the stories that I hear

591
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Speaker 5: from them are that their lives were full of hall

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Speaker 5: past time. It was about what they lost and what

593
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Speaker 5: would have happened there. And I didn't have to carry

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Speaker 5: that with me from childhood, really, and I saw I'm

595
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Speaker 5: grateful that I didn't know, but I didn't not tell them.

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Speaker 8: I want to tell you that when Marianne was about

597
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Speaker 8: six years old, she would say to us, everybody has

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Speaker 8: a sister. I want a sister. So when the two

599
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Speaker 8: of us made sixty dollars a week, we decided, I'm

600
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Speaker 8: going to get pregnant.

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Speaker 7: And then shoot enough.

602
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Speaker 8: My husband is working for a CPA who was a

603
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Speaker 8: dog and didn't allow my husband to come and help

604
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Speaker 8: me to go to the hospital. So I drove myself

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Speaker 8: to the hospital in nineteen fifty four in a Lutheran hospital,

606
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Speaker 8: and they put me in a crab, you know, And

607
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Speaker 8: then the next thing I knew, I woke up in

608
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Speaker 8: a room and the nurse came in and I said,

609
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Speaker 8: how long do I need to suffer? I thought you

610
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Speaker 8: have to suffer anyway. They knocked me out soon enough,

611
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Speaker 8: but she said you had a little girl four hours ago.

612
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Speaker 8: And I said that's America, you know, because in Europe

613
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Speaker 8: they don't give you anything. And Marianne was born at

614
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Speaker 8: home because my late husband inherited the family business, so

615
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 8: we were very wealthy, which we lost everything when the

616
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Speaker 8: Communists came and we fled. So that's where, oddly came

617
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Speaker 8: the little girl. Marianne became the little mother, so she

618
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Speaker 8: had two mothers.

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Speaker 6: What's your age difference? Audrey Marion seven years? Seven years amazing?

620
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Speaker 6: And then John is the baby two and a half years.

621
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Speaker 8: But John was born with cerebral policy. He was a

622
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Speaker 8: child with special needs.

623
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Speaker 7: And my.

624
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Speaker 8: Son John is a child with special needs. And he

625
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Speaker 8: does go to Washington and fights for the people who

626
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Speaker 8: have difficulties. He has difficulties with his eyes. He's kind

627
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Speaker 8: of blind and there's a stick when he goes out,

628
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Speaker 8: and he's very committed to make the city available for

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Speaker 8: people who have special needs. So he's for something. He's

630
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Speaker 8: fighting for the disabled. He's married to Lord, who is

631
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Speaker 8: a wonderful, wonderful, and she wants to learn how to

632
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Speaker 8: cook Hungarian food so.

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 6: Well, according to your daughters, you're obviously very good at

635
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Speaker 6: cooking Hungarian mom rocks some Hungarian dishes.

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Speaker 1: Ali, Yeah, well, well that's paprika. I mean just alone, chicken.

637
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Speaker 2: Che put it in everything.

638
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean literally, we have paprika and cake and cereals.

639
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Speaker 3: It's just everywhere.

640
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: Like little Paprika.

641
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Speaker 8: I want to tell something about your mom and the

642
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 8: movies that she was in.

643
00:41:52,400 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 7: I remember when she was in the military, Private bad Benjamin.

644
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 8: Yes, that's fun. Yeah, I think the first time that

645
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Speaker 8: I saw her, she's quite a wonderful renaissance woman.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Love is not what you feel, is what you do.

648
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Speaker 8: And I think that's important that you are and your

649
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Speaker 8: mother doing many many things improving the relationship in a family.

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Speaker 2: M H, thank you. I love it. You know, it's

651
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Speaker 2: funny that my mom says that all the time.

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Speaker 6: You know, you have a different twist on it. Love

653
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: is not what you feel, it's what you do. Is

654
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Speaker 6: That's what my mom My mom says about yourself. You know,

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Speaker 6: you're not you aren't what you do. You're what you

656
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 6: give and how you give.

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Speaker 3: You know.

658
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Speaker 1: I also I also love just what your mother said

659
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Speaker 1: to you in the cattle car, which is a universal

660
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Speaker 1: psychological sort of thought that you need to go through

661
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Speaker 1: to have a happy life for the rest of your life,

662
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Speaker 1: which is basically, you know, they can take they can

663
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Speaker 1: they can take everything away from you, but they can't

664
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Speaker 1: take away that you perceive things they can't take away.

665
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 8: My mother would have made it if she would have

666
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 8: been let come to the other side, because my teacher

667
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 8: from the Jewish school was the first one to get up.

668
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 7: She was exercising.

669
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 8: She you know, she made it. She made it because

670
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 8: there was no other way. She was an amazing role

671
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 8: model to us not to wait for anything to come.

672
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 8: There was nothing from the outside, nothing but the gas

673
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 8: chamber four o'clock.

674
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 7: In the morning. We didn't know if you're going to

675
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 7: end up there.

676
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 8: When we took a shower, we didn't know whether vouder

677
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 8: is going to come out or gas. And I think

678
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 8: this is the hardest place to be when you don't

679
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 8: know what's going to happen next.

680
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: M God, no.

681
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 6: No wonder you know it is when you know you

682
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 6: you then dedicated your life to helping people, I mean

683
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 6: becoming you became a psychologist.

684
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: But when did this?

685
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 6: You know, you met your ex husband, you moved, you

686
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 6: had a very wealthy life, and then again it hits

687
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 6: you again. You had to then leave this life and

688
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 6: flee communism.

689
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: You came to America? Did you come to America with nothing?

690
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 8: We came to America and I didn't have six hours

691
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 8: to get off the boat, so the Red Cross gave

692
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 8: it to me, and I ended up working in a factory,

693
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 8: getting seven cents a dozen. So I worked as fast

694
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 8: as I could so I wouldn't have to lose any time.

695
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 8: But finally I had to go to the bathroom. And

696
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 8: when I went to the bathroom in nineteen forty nine

697
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 8: in Baltimore, one of them said Colin, and guess what.

698
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 8: I always went to the colored bathroom. And I realized

699
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 8: that there is prejudice. There is prejudice in America. And

700
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 8: I joined the NCIP. I marched with Martin Luther King.

701
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 8: I wasn't Birmingham. Your mother is right. Love is not

702
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 8: what you feel, is what you do. And in nineteen

703
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 8: sixty two or three, I don't remember, I was in

704
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 8: Baltimore and there was a woman with two men who

705
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 8: the Mamas and the papas, and we were singing we

706
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 8: shall overcome that. You can't remember because you're too young

707
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 8: for that, but maybe your mum would.

708
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: I know it, I know it, we know it.

709
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: Wow, what an incredible life, Oh, my lord Baltimore, So

710
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 6: you did you?

711
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 7: My husband brother lived there.

712
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 8: My husband brother was a very famous lawyer in Czechoslovakia,

713
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 8: and one day he lost his glasses and he was

714
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 8: reaching for his glass and somebody hit him and called

715
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 8: him a dirty Jew. So he came to America and

716
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 8: he became a fuller brush man. He was the most

717
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 8: bitter person. And I told him that my husband is

718
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 8: going to go to school. And then I became pregnant,

719
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 8: and he told me how there to even think about

720
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 8: it becoming pregnant. He was so bitter, so bitterre he

721
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 8: died of a heart attack. And so we came to

722
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 8: America and he thought, we're going to bring out.

723
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 7: The Eager Fortune. Yeah, that was a really big disappointment

724
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 7: to him.

725
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 8: But I went to work, I went to school, I

726
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 8: sent my house, went to school, and he became a CPA.

727
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: Does the does the Eager Fortune still exist today?

728
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 8: We went back and they told us that we can

729
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 8: take over the home. The home is a monastery that

730
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 8: covers the whole block. But we had to give up

731
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: our American passport and and so we didn't do that.

732
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, I want to get that straight.

733
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 6: So you had to flee communism, and they said, yes,

734
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: you can have your fortune back, but you have to

735
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 6: now give up American City citizens, revoke your Americans where

736
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: you were able to have a safe haven.

737
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: In order to get that back.

738
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 7: The story.

739
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 8: The story is when the Communists came, they wanted to

740
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 8: take over. They were there to take over the business.

741
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 8: And my my husband studied to call them Nazis, and

742
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 8: they threw him in jail. And I am a survivor.

743
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 8: I don't say why me. I'll say what now.

744
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 7: I took my.

745
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 8: Big diamond ring, I went to the jail, I gave

746
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 8: it to the warden. I got my husband and we

747
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 8: left overnight and we ended up in Vienna at the

748
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 8: Rothschild Hospital. Well, that was for the people who fled,

749
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 8: and that's how we came to America. And Marian was

750
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 8: a year and a half old. She was so beautiful,

751
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 8: and we were arriving in America in nineteen forty nine,

752
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 8: and she spoke four languages. She went to a wonderful

753
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 8: acre center, and she taught me how to speak English.

754
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 8: She wrote home a book called Chicken Little and then

755
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 8: Ducky Lucky Goosey, Lucy Turkey Lurkey.

756
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 7: I didn't know one from the other.

757
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 8: So what I'm telling you that children end up being

758
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: maybe we can use the word parentage because one of

759
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 8: my questions I had two questions. One of her question

760
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 8: is when did your childhood end? I don't think Marian

761
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 8: was ever allowed even to be a child. She's the

762
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 8: one who showed me about peanut butter. She is the

763
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 8: one who ended up with an official order. She's the

764
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 8: one who taught me how to speak English, and that

765
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 8: was very very very very.

766
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 7: Helpful.

767
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 8: And the second question is which I'd like you to

768
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 8: think about. Would you like to be married to you?

769
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

770
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 6: I'm going to just say yes. I'm gonna go I'm

771
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 6: gonna just be confident.

772
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: Right I might.

773
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 2: I might marry say yes to Allie to I.

774
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: Might marry Edith, because I can't just it's it's just

775
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: an amazing story. Your resilience and just your the way

776
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: that you choose to think about things and the way

777
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: that you chose to continue on and live your life.

778
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: And we all have that choice. That's the beauty of it.

779
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they can put you somewhere, but we have free will,

780
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: our mind. We have the choice to think and believe

781
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: the things that we want to believe.

782
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's Edith you.

783
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 6: Said, you said, suffering is universal, but victimhood is optional.

784
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 6: It's amazing, and it's amazing, but it took a long

785
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 6: time to get there, you know. You know when you

786
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 6: say twenty years, you you know, this must have been

787
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 6: something that eventually you really worked towards.

788
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: Understanding about your life experience.

789
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 8: You know. People, Yeah, I always say what I lived,

790
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 8: but people come to me I believe, I believe, I believe.

791
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 8: I'm not interested in what you believe. I want to

792
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 8: know what kind of life you lead, you know, show me.

793
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 8: You know, everse can be very cheap commodities. And I

794
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: went back to Alschwitz actually because that's where the education

795
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 8: I received about the difference between the IQ and the

796
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 8: EQ that I didn't have time to complain and I

797
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 8: don't like it, and no I don't have to like it.

798
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 8: I'm here now and the question is not why me,

799
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 8: The question is what now? And I live in a present.

800
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 8: I can tell you that I have such joy to

801
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 8: being interviewed today.

802
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 6: I have a question for Marian and Audrey. You know, Mary,

803
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: I'll start with you, you know, because you're older, but

804
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 6: I mean we we all have different perceptions of how

805
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 6: these things happen, and what the experience is for you

806
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 6: is different than obviously your mother. So being raised by

807
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 6: a Holocaust survivor, that moment when you saw that book

808
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 6: and realized that your mother was a Holocaust survivor, like

809
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 6: what what?

810
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: What?

811
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 6: Then became the process of understanding who your mom is,

812
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 6: what her life experience has been, What was that like

813
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 6: for you?

814
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 5: I think that it grows and changes, And I don't

815
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 5: think that my mother could have done the books that

816
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 5: she's done without me and Augret. We sat next to her.

817
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 5: When the lovely man who is the producer of our books,

818
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 5: let's say, he came to San Diego and he found

819
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 5: this wonderful to do the formal writing. And we all

820
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 5: sat in my mother's study and he said to her,

821
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 5: in o Edie, you have a story that you tell

822
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: everyone about your experiences, but for this you're going to

823
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 5: have to really tell the real story. And my mother

824
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 5: looked at us, me and Audrey, and she said, do

825
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 5: I have to tell the real story? And I said no,

826
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 5: but then you don't get a book. I said, We're

827
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 5: going to be right here with you, and so she did,

828
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: and we heard and the stories in the first book

829
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: were stories we had never heard before. And so not

830
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 5: only did she go through the pain of reliving it,

831
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 5: Audrey and I went through the pain of hearing. I mean,

832
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember the story about how

833
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 5: the Nazis would put children and the trees and then

834
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 5: use them for shooting, and you know, I mean, it's like, seriously,

835
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 5: human beings do these things. But on the other hand,

836
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 5: the more that we make sure that people realize, I mean,

837
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: look what's happening now in the world. You know, I

838
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 5: don't know what it is about humans that make us

839
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 5: so cruel, but so anyway, I think the knowing. I

840
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 5: think I made sure for a long time that it

841
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 5: was never part of my story, and then as time

842
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: went on, I became more comfortable with it. And now,

843
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 5: of course Audrey and I both feel that this is

844
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: a world story that needs to be remembered, and our

845
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 5: children and grandchildren are I mean, my my daughter's two

846
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 5: boys who were uh ten and twelve now and they

847
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: make some of my mother's recipes for their class when

848
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: when they're supposed to make something and they're you know,

849
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: really delicious and and everyone just loves is her name

850
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 5: great gravittsu and you know, and so it just it

851
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 5: continues now. I think in a very positive way. I

852
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 5: still live with some pain of knowing about her pain.

853
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 5: And I feel.

854
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 7: The young.

855
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 8: Great grandson that I have calls me. His name is Hale,

856
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 8: and he looks at me and he calls me Gigi baby,

857
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 8: because I'm.

858
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 7: Sure he's short too, but that doesn't so I'm known

859
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 7: as the Gigi baby. And they like frank food. They

860
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 7: like my Hungarian food.

861
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: Oh.

862
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 6: One of my best friend's grandmother was a Holocaust survivor.

863
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 6: She's she's past now. She never spoke about it. She wouldn't,

864
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: you know. And she kind of would at one, you know,

865
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 6: in moments, and they took everything in. But she really

866
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: was different, you know, like you didn't really want to

867
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: share her life experience with the Holocaust.

868
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 8: I think we owe it to their children vision Keith Ticket.

869
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 8: But if I knew then what I know now, I

870
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 8: would have done things very differently. Yeah, my parents s

871
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 8: had tickets to come to America and they never used it.

872
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Audrey's experience was very different. When Audrey was

873
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 5: born in Baltimore. You know, we were in Baltimore, and

874
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 5: I never knew my parents before, even though I guess

875
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 5: we were living in this starting little place and all this.

876
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: But when we went to outcast of Texas, my father

877
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: did really well. We had some money, wasn't bore, and

878
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 5: Audrey had neighbors, and so Audrey had a much more

879
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 5: American life I think, and feeling about lifestyle. You know, Audrey,

880
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 5: you should tell them.

881
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 9: Okay, I do have a voice.

882
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 11: It's funny that I'm going to kind of go back

883
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 11: to the choice. I wasn't actually going to come for

884
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 11: this three day like amazing experience. It was my son

885
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 11: that said, Mom, you need to go, because I really

886
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 11: was pretty dissociated with the whole This was her story,

887
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 11: not my story anyway. But luckily I had taken a

888
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 11: year of yoga training and the dreamals were very strong. Anyway,

889
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 11: it was quite an experience to sit there for three

890
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 11: days and like her uh dramatizing getting in the box

891
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 11: car talking about her father who we never heard anything

892
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 11: about uh.

893
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 9: She was saying how he gave up in the box car.

894
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 11: I mean the detail about our grandparents that I never

895
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 11: asked any questions was just amazing. And I'd say it's difficult,

896
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 11: but I'm so glad I know that, you know, I

897
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 11: know that part of my life and her life that

898
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 11: we could share.

899
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 9: And and the big.

900
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 11: Kind of aha moment was when I traveled with her too.

901
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 11: We were in Amsterdam and they did a ballet to

902
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 11: honor her, and.

903
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 7: We were.

904
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 8: Got together with a guy and she became me, and

905
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 8: the man became Mangal Mangal, and.

906
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 11: Even the the movie star that played Mangola came to

907
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 11: me and he goes, do you think she'll want to

908
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 11: meet me because I represent Mangola, And I said, of course,

909
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 11: she'll want to meet you anyway. It was this experience

910
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 11: that I'll never forget because at the end, the prima

911
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 11: ballerina gives and this was May fourth and Amsterdam, they

912
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 11: actually the city shuts down to remember the World War two,

913
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 11: and the ballerina gives my mom the flowers. The spotlight

914
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 11: comes on in the entire opera house just collapsed in tears,

915
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 11: and I'm sitting here going, holy shit, this woman is

916
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 11: healing this audience right here by her vibrancy and her

917
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 11: just being so alive.

918
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: And so I was like, well, my life has just changed.

919
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 11: And I remember remember calling Mary Anne and maybe is

920
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 11: the middle of the I going, oh my god, you're

921
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 11: not gonna believe that. Well, this is amazing, and then

922
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 11: we Uh. I just became much more open to telling

923
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 11: my story because there are a lot of second generation

924
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 11: people that are kind of struggling to figure out what

925
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 11: their story is. And I've been asked to do like

926
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 11: presentations that I've never been asked to do, and so

927
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 11: I've been really digging deeper into her her history, and.

928
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we carry it. You know, it's important to carry on. Sorry,

929
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: but your guys is you're amazing.

930
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 7: My darling. Thank you.

931
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 8: One of the things you want to remember always that

932
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 8: half of you is your mother and half of you

933
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 8: is your father. So I hope that you're go also

934
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 8: guide people just to make peace with their parents.

935
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting you said that, you know, just I

936
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: mean just because our father was not around, you know,

937
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: And I've come to terms with it and we have

938
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: somewhat of a relationship. But I've tried to make amends

939
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: and heal there and forgive.

940
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 8: Honestly, Yes, it's actually forgiveness has nothing to do for

941
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 8: you forgiving someone else. You don't have godly powers. But

942
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 8: you want to be free. What you're carrying with you,

943
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 8: that's so forgiveness has to do with you free yourself.

944
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 7: Yes, what you carry with you and letting go.

945
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 8: And you're not in the past fighting and still hating. Yeah,

946
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 8: because you hate, you're still a prisoner.

947
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: So have you do you have forgiveness for all of

948
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: these people, And of course there's.

949
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 8: No question revenge just gives you some and of satisfaction.

950
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 8: But I think it's very temporary. I very much push

951
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 8: for people to be free. Freedom is not without responsibility,

952
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 8: it's it's anarchy. So it's the sooner you can do that,

953
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 8: you're freer, you become give your serve a gift.

954
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a gift gift to you.

955
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: Yes.

956
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

957
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 5: One of the things, Mom, that you have to say

958
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 5: is that you never forget.

959
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 8: You never forget or overcome. I don't know that overcome.

960
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 8: I remember when we went to have a root steakhouse

961
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 8: here and I remember seeing cobblestones, and immediately I was

962
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 8: taken back when children were spitting at us in Germany

963
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 8: as we woke and called us wound the dogs and

964
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 8: this that, and I are feeling so sorry for the

965
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 8: children that they were got how to hear me?

966
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 9: What about the Costco and far wise?

967
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 8: So when I go to Costco and see the worldwire,

968
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 8: I immediately have flashbacks. I don't forget or run from

969
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 8: the past, but I don't set up how so there

970
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 8: and uh, I think it's good to go through the

971
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 8: value of the shadow of that.

972
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't care.

973
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 3: But is there? But is there?

974
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: Is there trauma experiences that the mind just blanks and

975
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: shuts out? I mean, do you have do you have

976
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: gaps in your memory of things that you have put away?

977
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 1: You seem so sharp and your memory is is I

978
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: can't even begin to tell you how impressed I am

979
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: with how articulate and how sharp your memory is.

980
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 3: But are there moments where you have just blocked out.

981
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 8: The past in a present? I think the way you

982
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 8: think can change your life. If you pay attention to

983
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 8: your self dialogue. You find out that if you change

984
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 8: your thinking, you can change your your whole life. So

985
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 8: pay attention to your self dialogue. It really is very important.

986
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 8: Because it changes your body chemistry.

987
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, cognitive behavioral therapy.

988
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: We aren't our thoughts, they're just thoughts.

989
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: I want to tell you. I want to tell you

990
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 5: how littag I was by the way you lost it.

991
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 5: It was really it was. It was incredibly sweet.

992
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: But I think I think that we it's.

993
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 6: Our it's our duty to carry our families, you know,

994
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 6: you know, as especially as daughters, right to carry our

995
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 6: mother's stories.

996
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: It's really important.

997
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I was curious what touched you that.

998
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: You know, because because the stories.

999
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 6: Profound stories that can really change, you know, your story,

1000
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 6: edith is can be life changing for a person. They

1001
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 6: can experience you and your words and it can change

1002
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 6: their entire life trajectory of how they see themselves in

1003
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 6: the world. Your life experience has seen that people can

1004
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 6: be so resilient that we can overcome the negative thought

1005
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 6: patterns and the trauma.

1006
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that we can understand it better.

1007
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: And I also think World War two is just a

1008
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: very specifically.

1009
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 6: Emotional war for especially for Jewish people, you know, like ourselves,

1010
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 6: you know, our grandma. There's not that many of us

1011
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 6: in the world, and they want to try to forget

1012
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 6: what we've been through and so that is that hits

1013
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 6: me a lot.

1014
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 8: I like you to get rid of the world, understand,

1015
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 8: okay or come that is, I don't. I don't ever

1016
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 8: forget what happened. I do not overcome. It's undresult grief

1017
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 8: that comes up here, there and everywhere. I come to

1018
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 8: terms with it. I call it my cherished wound. So

1019
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 8: don't run from it or fight it. That is important

1020
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 8: because you want to be a good mother to you

1021
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 8: and whatever you do, ask yourself, is it empowering me

1022
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 8: or depleting me? You know, some things may give you

1023
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 8: five minutes of pleasure, but then maybe years and years

1024
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 8: of pain. I think it's good to think about your thinking.

1025
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 3: It M right, it's true.

1026
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 11: So I do have a question for you in your circle,

1027
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 11: which yeah circle that I but you know, what what

1028
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 11: do you think we need to do to bring awareness

1029
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 11: or to help others?

1030
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 8: I like, I like to say I never asked how

1031
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 8: can I help you? I say, how can I be

1032
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 8: used for data?

1033
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it's it's it's just the story, of course,

1034
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: but it's about the resilience.

1035
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: It's more than just the story.

1036
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: It's about how Edith and you as a family have

1037
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: dealt with it. It's it's just about sort of changing

1038
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: your mind, making a choice, and that you know, even

1039
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: someone with a story like yours can make these choices,

1040
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, And it doesn't have to define us. We

1041
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 1: define ourselves our thoughts.

1042
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 7: You know, I have a story, but I'm not my.

1043
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: Story right exactly.

1044
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: You know, I've been dealing with anxiety, and that's sort

1045
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: of how I deal with it.

1046
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: I have anxiety. I am not I am not my anxiety.

1047
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 8: You know, you're thinking anxiously. There is no such thing

1048
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 8: as an anxiety attack. I am not a victim. I've

1049
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 8: been victimized. It's not who I am, it's what was

1050
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 8: done to me. That is a big, big difference. It's

1051
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 8: very important to pay attention what you're paying attention to,

1052
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 8: because anything that you pay attention to, you're in force

1053
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 8: that behavior. So you suppose you want to lose weight

1054
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 8: and you tell me, and I tell you what to do.

1055
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 8: You know, I'm calories or so on, and then you

1056
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 8: tell me, I just cannot give up Hungarian chocolate, And.

1057
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 7: You see, I can't.

1058
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 8: It is not in my vocabulary. Because when cannibalism broke

1059
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 8: out in the place where I was liberated, the movie

1060
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 8: is called.

1061
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 7: Which is the movie that I'm referring to?

1062
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: Is it about.

1063
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 7: Karate Kid? Is that what you?

1064
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:28,560
Speaker 5: No?

1065
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 8: No? There, I was actually talking to God what to

1066
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 8: do because I didn't want to touch human flesh. The

1067
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 8: sound of music is there, and God pointed me to

1068
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 8: look down. And even then I had grass to eat,

1069
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 8: and I remember choosing one blood of gray against the other.

1070
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 8: So I can't, it's not in my vocabulary. I go

1071
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 8: to a classroom, I run to the blackboard and I

1072
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 8: put that I can't, and I take an and erased

1073
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 8: the tea and the apostrophe.

1074
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 7: I can why because I think I can?

1075
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 8: So?

1076
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,799
Speaker 2: Are you saying that the cannibalism was something?

1077
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 6: Because because you were so hungry that started to happen?

1078
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 8: People unfortunately resorted to cannibalism in Gundkirhen, Austria, where I

1079
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:29,719
Speaker 8: was liberated May fourth, nineteen forty five by the seventy

1080
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 8: first Infantry, And one of the members is now my

1081
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 8: friend who was who was there when he's the one

1082
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 8: from the seventy first Infantry.

1083
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 1: Wow, were the rumors of liberation or did it just

1084
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: happen immediately or did you understand that it might be

1085
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: happening soon.

1086
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 8: Yes, we got that can of sardines from the Red

1087
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 8: Cross and we were told that Roosevelt died.

1088
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 7: So that's when we.

1089
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 8: Were very very very hopeful that we're going to be

1090
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 8: liberated as well. And thank God, thank God, I call it.

1091
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,440
Speaker 8: The saints came marching in. It was maybe your grandfather

1092
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 8: or great grandfather or great grandmother who may have been

1093
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 8: a nurse during World War two. I don't know, but

1094
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 8: they were women and men equally in uniform.

1095
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 3: And that feeling, what was that feeling like?

1096
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 8: Ah, the feeling was all I can tell you that

1097
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 8: there was no feeling. I was numb, void of feelings.

1098
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 9: What condition were you in when you were I was.

1099
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 8: A in a among the dead when I felt my

1100
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 8: hand was touched, and I looked up and all I

1101
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 8: saw was a big leap.

1102
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 7: So I am telling this to Oprah and she.

1103
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 8: Gets up from her chair and she said he was black,

1104
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 8: and shout it have he was black? And I looked

1105
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 8: at his eyes and I want to cry, and and

1106
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 8: he was crying.

1107
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 7: And guess what he gave me?

1108
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 8: Eminem So if you come to my house, I give

1109
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 8: you Eminem's with my picture on it.

1110
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, It's amazing, isn't it? Wow? Wow?

1111
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: Real quick going back as Mary and I wanted to

1112
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: touch upon this just as a child and having to

1113
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: be that teacher to your to every to your mother

1114
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: and you know, English and food and this and the

1115
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: American culture and lifestyle. Was there anything taken away from

1116
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 1: your childhood?

1117
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: Something?

1118
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1119
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 3: Do you have not?

1120
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: There's no obviously no regrets, but is there that that

1121
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 1: thing that you had to sacrifice for your family?

1122
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 5: You know? I always feel hurt when my mother talks

1123
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 5: about what I gave up to be their child, because

1124
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 5: they were really fun parents, and I felt like it

1125
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 5: was really fun and we were doing all these different

1126
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 5: things and they were so sweet and fine to me.

1127
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 5: And I don't I wouldn't give up my childhood for anything.

1128
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I didn't really. I mean, if

1129
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 5: I realized that I was teaching my mother English, it's

1130
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: not a conscious thing. And I think that's pretty cool.

1131
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 5: You look at all these immigrants out of the US.

1132
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 7: I want to tell you. I mean, let me interrupt Anny.

1133
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 8: I was invited to Hanukah party and the children got

1134
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 8: up and sang, and hostess asked marya Mary, and would

1135
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 8: you like to sing a Hanukkah song? She says yes,

1136
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 8: she starts in the middle of the room. Jesus loves me. Yes,

1137
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 8: I know, because this Jewish guy became a Baptist minister.

1138
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 7: So that's what imagine how I felt. I'm sorry, I just.

1139
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: So I loved to day to read that.

1140
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that should like be in a movie.

1141
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 2: That's really funny.

1142
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 7: Jesus was a Jewish boy, you know.

1143
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,839
Speaker 5: The only when we moved out Vaso, there was another

1144
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 5: family there who were from I think Czech or something,

1145
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 5: and they had a son my age, and I kept

1146
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 5: thinking to myself, when I grow up, I am I

1147
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 5: going to marry somebody like him because we have a

1148
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 5: similar history and and and that that was one of

1149
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 5: the thoughts I had, was that I knew deep inside

1150
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 5: that I was different from all these Texans. And even

1151
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 5: though I learned to ride horses and play very good

1152
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 5: tennis and all that, you know, I was, I mean,

1153
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 5: I you know, I had the benefit of being good

1154
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 5: at a lot of things and being really smart, and

1155
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 5: so I think, I'm you know, kids are more concerned

1156
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 5: about themselves. And my mother you see her now, and

1157
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 5: I'm so proud of her. But when I was growing up,

1158
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 5: she was shy. And but my friends, my you know,

1159
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 5: my ol pass of friends, they just talk about how

1160
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 5: I loved it, went to your house.

1161
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 7: Your mother was.

1162
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 5: Always so sweet, and she always wanted to listen to me,

1163
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 5: and they have told me now you know, she listened

1164
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 5: to me. Anyway, my parents never.

1165
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 3: Listened to me.

1166
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 5: So I think for her ability to connect. And my

1167
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 5: father was a sweetheart. He was fun He loved to travel,

1168
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 5: and he thought about funny. He had a really funny sence.

1169
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: He were and he was a great dancer, so you know,

1170
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 5: dancing and all this stuff. And I'm sorry about the

1171
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: and and so I knew that my family was different

1172
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:47,440
Speaker 5: than other families. And when my mother went to Auschwitz

1173
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 5: and she came back, she was truly a different person,

1174
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 5: and she was a different person. And her story, which

1175
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 5: she hasn't told you, was that she, you know, she

1176
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 5: went and she saw a man walking who had the

1177
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 5: uniform line, and she got panicky, like he was one

1178
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 5: of the men in uniform that she experienced when she

1179
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 5: was there as an inmate. And then suddenly it hit

1180
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 5: her that he works here, and I can leave, and

1181
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 5: I have an American passport in my wallet and she

1182
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 5: skipped out whether my father said, she literally skipped out.

1183
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 5: And she used to have this kind of sadness in

1184
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 5: her eyes always, And it went right wow.

1185
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 6: So that that experience really like just shifted. It was

1186
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 6: like something happened and it shifted everything.

1187
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 5: And and and so I became a psychologist long before

1188
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 5: my mother. My mother didn't finish education churches in the fifties,

1189
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 5: and I went to graduate school for now when I

1190
01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:01,520
Speaker 5: was twenty, so you know, there's a difference, and and

1191
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 5: and and so she goes to Auschwitz. You know, she's

1192
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 5: doing her psychology stuff with the veterans from Vietnam, et cetera.

1193
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 5: But she goes to Aschwitz and she comes back and

1194
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 5: she is like, oh my god, I am fully alive.

1195
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 5: It was. It was astonishingly one. It really was.

1196
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: What were those memories, like Edith going back there, what

1197
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: would you attribute that to? Is it just a release

1198
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: realizing that it's over.

1199
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:34,480
Speaker 5: I think it was. I think that all of the

1200
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 5: painful memories came back to her. But she also realized

1201
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 5: that that was then and this is now, and she

1202
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 5: had so much that happened since those days. And and

1203
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 5: and I mean she and I talked about it multiple times,

1204
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,799
Speaker 5: and but but just just the look on her face

1205
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 5: and the way she just kind of handled and the

1206
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 5: confident said she had speaking to people were and it

1207
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 5: just it just turned everything over, I know, And I

1208
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 5: mean it's kind of an incredible thing. So you see,

1209
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,520
Speaker 5: that's all my experiences and you know, watching that transition

1210
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 5: with her. But the other thing that comes to mind

1211
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,759
Speaker 5: is when I was pregnant with her first child, her daughter,

1212
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 5: and I was three weeks late, thank goodness. And now

1213
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 5: in those days, they let me go the three weeks

1214
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 5: weeks late too, is that right? So I was three

1215
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 5: weeks late for my mother, and so I called my

1216
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 5: mother and I said, you're going to be here with

1217
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 5: the baked sport right to help me out? She said, well,

1218
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,560
Speaker 5: you know, I'm working on my PhD and I have

1219
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 5: a meeting with my advisors, and well, I'll try to

1220
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 5: be there by can. And I'm thinking, what Unfortunately, because

1221
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 5: Lindsay was three weeks late, she went and had her

1222
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 5: meetings and she could come back and beat it. But

1223
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 5: that's you know, when she's determined, she's not gonna stop her.

1224
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 6: That sounds like our mother, who'd be like it's the

1225
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 6: it's the birth of your first grandchild. She's like, I'm

1226
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 6: so busy, but I'm gonna I'll see what I can do.

1227
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly. But they always come through, but it's

1228
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 5: just in their own way.

1229
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,520
Speaker 2: How many grands how many great grandkids?

1230
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 8: Now I have seven great grandsons. That's my best revenge

1231
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 8: to Hitler. I don't have time for anything, but you

1232
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 8: and your mom and your brother can come and visit

1233
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 8: me here.

1234
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,759
Speaker 7: I hope that will happen.

1235
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love where are you're in New York.

1236
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: I would love to take you up on that.

1237
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: We will take you.

1238
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 11: Up on that our capt tonight and we have Theopaprica perfect.

1239
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: It's just your story is incredible, and your spirit is amazing,

1240
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: and your resilience is inspirational. And I have an odd

1241
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: last question and you don't have to answer it, but

1242
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, given who you are, and after having this

1243
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: conversation with you for the last hour or so, were

1244
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: there did you have happy memories? Were there happy memories

1245
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: of your time in Auschwitz? Memories that you will take

1246
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: with you.

1247
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 8: Many, many happy memories, especially that we learn to care

1248
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 8: for each other, because if you were only for the me, me, me,

1249
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 8: you didn't make it, And we knew exactly that. I

1250
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 8: knew exactly by looking at someone's face whether they going

1251
01:21:54,880 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 8: to make it or not even there and those higher

1252
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 8: conditions people were practicing and attitude that turned anxiety into excitement.

1253
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: And what was the excitement, like we're going to get

1254
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 3: out of.

1255
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 8: Here that I'm here now, I'm here now, I'm still

1256
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 8: in a present. And I do the best with what

1257
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 8: I have rather than anything else. So I think the

1258
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 8: curiosity is what helped me through more than anything else.

1259
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 8: So when a woman kind of tells me that this

1260
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 8: guy left him left her, I'll say the word that

1261
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 8: you want to use now next.

1262
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 2: I think I say next too often.

1263
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 7: Pick an arrow, go follow that arrow next.

1264
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: I love it.

1265
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 8: So when you leave the house, get dressed, you never

1266
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 8: know who's gonna pick up the tomato next to you.

1267
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,560
Speaker 7: And start a conversation.

1268
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 8: You know, the tomatoes are very nice. Women are much

1269
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 8: more pursuing than in the past. You don't have to

1270
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 8: wait for a man to call you.

1271
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 5: You're both married.

1272
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 6: Well, that's right, I have a I have a Do

1273
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 6: you feel your mother all the time still?

1274
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: Do you think about her all the time? And do

1275
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: you do you feel her.

1276
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 8: My mother is a guide. Yeah, I wonder for God,

1277
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 8: it's it's in my soul or my spirit and yeed

1278
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 8: we call it your kishke that tells you your yours

1279
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 8: will tell you whether it's a good idea or not,

1280
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 8: whether you should act upon it or not. I think

1281
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 8: it's very good to pay attention what you're paying attention to.

1282
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: Mm hm.

1283
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 3: Hm.

1284
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 8: So when you are married, you do two things, you

1285
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 8: give and take.

1286
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 7: And tolert differences.

1287
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's all relationships, do you. I know

1288
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: Kate's going to use this in her relationship.

1289
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 6: I feel that your daughters are so lucky to have

1290
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 6: you as their.

1291
01:24:58,640 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Mama.

1292
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 7: I am the luck you went.

1293
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 6: Of course, of course, from your from your girl's perspective.

1294
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 6: You know, we usually we usually do this thing. I'd

1295
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 6: actually like to do it with you guys. We do

1296
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 6: this with siblings. Our last question is usually what is

1297
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 6: one thing that you would love to emulate about your mother?

1298
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 6: And then what is one thing you would love to

1299
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 6: be able to alleviate from her? And then maybe mommy,

1300
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 6: you can say that to your daughter, is one thing

1301
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 6: that you just love so much about them that you

1302
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 6: wish that she.

1303
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: Had what, Yeah, the one thing that you wish that

1304
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: you could take from them, meaning like the one thing

1305
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: that you love about them that you wish you had

1306
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:45,480
Speaker 1: for yourself.

1307
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 6: And then and then the other, which is that one

1308
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 6: thing you could alleviate, something that you could take away

1309
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 6: from them that would make their life better.

1310
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 7: Deep.

1311
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 8: You know, when I was on Larry King, he asked me,

1312
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 8: were there are any kind people among the guards?

1313
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 7: And I told him that.

1314
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 8: One night when we were in a little German village

1315
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 8: in a community hall, I we were told if we

1316
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 8: leave the premises, we're going to be shot right away.

1317
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 8: But MEGA told me she's so hungry she would die

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Speaker 8: if I don't get some food. So I didn't listen.

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Speaker 8: So I go outside and I see some carrots next door.

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Speaker 8: I'm a gymnast, right, so I jump and I steal

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Speaker 8: the carrots. And as I jumped up, I heard the

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Speaker 8: clicking of a gun about three times, and I'm saying

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Speaker 8: to myself, I'm going to die.

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Speaker 7: But there was this eye contact.

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Speaker 8: And I don't know if you had ever a German

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Speaker 8: my father, but he looked at me and he turned

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Speaker 8: around the gun and.

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Speaker 7: Shoved me back.

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Speaker 8: And the following morning he came and he wanted to

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Speaker 8: know who dared to break the rules some crawling to him.

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Speaker 8: This is April nineteen forty five, when the German people

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Speaker 8: are starving, and he gives me a little loaf of

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Speaker 8: bread and tells me you must have been hungry here

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Speaker 8: last night. I wish I could meet that man because

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Speaker 8: because he gave me a piece of bread the time

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Speaker 8: when there were starving as well, So there was kindness

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Speaker 8: that was practiced even then, even then. So anyway, Larry

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Speaker 8: King wanted me to cook for him Hungarian food and

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Speaker 8: that somehow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that story.

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Speaker 3: That's that's wow, the just the stories that you must have.

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Speaker 1: I got to come to La Joya and just you know,

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Speaker 1: I know talking, I can do dance.

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Speaker 3: I can do a dance too. I can dance for.

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Speaker 6: You, Marianna and Audrey, do you want to maybe?

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Speaker 5: So the thing that I wish my mother didn't have

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Speaker 5: was the guilt that she feels about whatever if she

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Speaker 5: feels built well she did, especially around me, which I

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Speaker 5: feel is totally inappropriate, and it makes me, it hurts

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Speaker 5: me to see her have that feeling of I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think part of who I am, and I like

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Speaker 5: who I am come from what I had it really.

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Speaker 7: I am.

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Speaker 5: I try really tried not to be the obnoxious older sister,

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Speaker 5: but maybe sometimes all the time.

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Speaker 6: Alie, Alie doesn't try hard not to be, he tries

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Speaker 6: hard to be.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, the advantage of a sister over a rather problem.

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Speaker 5: And what I feel like I got from my mother

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Speaker 5: is my mother is an incredibly kind person. And I

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Speaker 5: think people say and I feel like a kind personal

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Speaker 5: I'm happy, there's positive things to do. So I don't

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Speaker 5: know if you know anything about me, but my special

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Speaker 5: tis child psychology and sports psychologist, so different ends of

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Speaker 5: the spectrum. And and I love to watch people get

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Speaker 5: better and better and do better at whenever they do.

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Speaker 5: And I and you know, this is something I think

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Speaker 5: that my mother has embodied.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I love that, amazing, Audrey.

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Speaker 11: Okay, that's a hard question, but I think I think

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Speaker 11: the word is you're never satisfied, And that can be

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Speaker 11: negative or positive, because I always feel like I always

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Speaker 11: need to be accomplishing something, so that can be positive

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Speaker 11: or negative. Sometimes it's a good kick in the butt

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Speaker 11: and sometimes it's like enough already at ninety four, do

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Speaker 11: you really need to work every day? So it's sort

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Speaker 11: of a it's a dichotomy in a way, you know,

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Speaker 11: like when can you rest? And anyway, I like to

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Speaker 11: play a lot, and I also do executive coaching, so

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Speaker 11: I have like very different sides of me.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's okay.

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Speaker 11: And I think I would I wish that she had

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Speaker 11: a little more of the you know, go play bridge.

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Speaker 2: Or something right like clip the playful like.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, like enjoy like the gifts. I mean, life can

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Speaker 11: be really fun too. But anyway, on the good side,

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Speaker 11: I do never give up, regardless of what happens.

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Speaker 9: And you know, life is up and down, and with her.

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Speaker 11: Gifts, I think it is just like I said in

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Speaker 11: that article, it's in my DNA. It may you know,

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Speaker 11: things may hurt and be horrible, but I always know

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Speaker 11: I'll find a way out. And uh and I do

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Speaker 11: never give up. And this this is the role model

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Speaker 11: right here.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, honey.

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Speaker 6: Now, if you could take one good thing that your

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Speaker 6: daughters have and adopt it as yours, what would that be.

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Speaker 8: That curtiosty and not really living in a past. And

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Speaker 8: then what if could you could take away something that

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Speaker 8: weighs them down or is difficult for them and you

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Speaker 8: could sweep it away for them, turning shit into fertilizer

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Speaker 8: and plant rosa on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was I think that's a great way to end.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I might I might just take that quote

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Speaker 1: for myself and run with it.

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Speaker 7: And turn the bed into good.

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Speaker 2: I love it, you guys. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining me.

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Speaker 8: My love to your mom, and I hope you'll come

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Speaker 8: and give you a big hug.

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Speaker 1: I know, I really want to figure that out because

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Speaker 1: I could talk to you for hours and hours.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you guys. This is so great.

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Speaker 6: I really, this was really really just really touched me

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Speaker 6: just so deeply on such a such a personal level,

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Speaker 6: and I'm so grateful, so thank you for spending this

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Speaker 6: time with us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, you, thank you much. Okay, I love you.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you guys soon.

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Speaker 1: Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: Producer is Alison President.

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Speaker 3: Editor is Josh Wendish.

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Speaker 2: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

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