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Speaker 1: play of the day, Out of the day check in
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Speaker 1: as well. It's no secret the Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray wants a contract extension. We started yesterday's show talking
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray and his agent and what Tony Kornheiser
Speaker 1: on pardon the interruption, liken to a ransom note. Basically, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you want this quarterback, paid this amount of money
Speaker 1: and then we'll give him to you. His agent released
Speaker 1: a statement that said actions speak louder than words and
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals should be rushing to extend their quote
Speaker 1: rapidly improving quarterback end quote. Kyler's great talent, but rapidly
Speaker 1: improving might be a stretch because he's had similar numbers
Speaker 1: all three years in the league, and these are good numbers,
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl numbers. But if actions speak louder than words,
Speaker 1: his performance in the playoffs certainly don't bilde well for him.
Speaker 1: Because Murray completed fifty five percent of his passes, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: two interceptions versus the Rams in the wild card game.
Speaker 1: Actions speak louder than words. If you're going to pay
Speaker 1: a quarterback forty five million dollars a year, you need
Speaker 1: to show up in big games and or at least
Speaker 1: have an overall winning record, which he doesn't. Now, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals aren't going to get rid of Kyler Murray, I
Speaker 1: don't think, but it does put them in an interesting
Speaker 1: position because if Kyler Murray, let's say you play this
Speaker 1: out one more year before you pay him. But let's
Speaker 1: say he doesn't improve. Let's say he gives you twenty
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, ten interceptions, rushes for seven hundred yards. That's
Speaker 1: what he does. Those are good numbers. Those aren't great numbers,
Speaker 1: but those are good numbers. I want to see if
Speaker 1: they advance in the playoffs, because really that's the key,
Speaker 1: because he might be a Russell Wilson type quarterback where
Speaker 1: he's not going to have big numbers, but he's going
Speaker 1: to be dangerous. He's going to be daring, game on
Speaker 1: the line. That's the guy you want. He can beat
Speaker 1: you with his arm and his legs. But you start
Speaker 1: to make these kind of demands and I would wait
Speaker 1: and I'd wait it out. Now, you might upset him
Speaker 1: or his agent, But what if what if he doesn't
Speaker 1: give me a great year? What if he underwhelms, then
Speaker 1: I can move on a little bit easier. In the
Speaker 1: fan base will probably say, yeah, he's not worth the headache.
Speaker 1: I do like Kyler Murray. I think he's he has
Speaker 1: the potential to be a great player. But I think
Speaker 1: that there is there's a polarizing aspect of him. And
Speaker 1: you know, I can look at this and say he's immature,
Speaker 1: he's young, he's twenty four, but he's being a businessman.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a businessman, then you have to
Speaker 1: be grown up. And I don't think that yesterday did
Speaker 1: him any great service. You know, if his agent and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talked today, I want to know if they go, Yep,
Speaker 1: we had a good day yesterday, because I don't think
Speaker 1: they did. I think they had a bad day. Perception wise.
Speaker 1: But you have to think these things through. You have
Speaker 1: to sit down and go, Okay, this is what we're
Speaker 1: going to do. Okay, what kind of reaction do you
Speaker 1: think we're going to get. Oh, they'll probably be this
Speaker 1: kind of reaction from the media. What about the Cardinals. Oh,
Speaker 1: they probably won't do anything. They won't say anything publicly. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well what if the media says that we're, you know,
Speaker 1: holding him up for ransom? Well that's okay. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how you could go through this process and go, man,
Speaker 1: we had a good day. Now we did talk about
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Then you start to dissect his career. You
Speaker 1: start to look at what he does and doesn't do.
Speaker 1: You compare him to other quarterbacks, other quarterbacks who got
Speaker 1: their contract a year earlier. And I understand that you
Speaker 1: can say, Jared Goff, did he deserve it when he
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl? Now, is he a franchise quarterback? No,
Speaker 1: but he went to the Super Bowl, and I'll put
Speaker 1: that on the Rams. I don't know why they extended him,
Speaker 1: but they did. Carson Wentz he got extended and I
Speaker 1: think we thought he was going to be the MVP.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen got his contract extended. Patrick Mahomes a year early. Okay,
Speaker 1: But you know, I look at Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: in a different category than I do Kyler Murray. But
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray needs to prove in the playoffs. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of great regular season quarterbacks. You know, Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard a peep out of his camp. And
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is far more worthy of a contract extension, right.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything with Lamar Jackson from his camp,
Speaker 1: Lamar or anybody. Now, is that going to get done? Yes?
Speaker 1: Like Baker Mayfield, I would not extend him. And this
Speaker 1: is where you bet on yourself. If you're Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: you just say, all right, I'm going to bet on myself.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's what he did yesterday,
Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott bet on himself. And if you are
Speaker 1: that good, then bet on yourself. Because Kyler Murray wants
Speaker 1: it now, well, I'm still not sure if I want
Speaker 1: to give you forty five million dollars a year. And
Speaker 1: I know that sounds strange because that's the going rate.
Speaker 1: I just can't wrap my head around everybody. The next
Speaker 1: guy up gets this kind of money. Is Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, No, not everybody is Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: wants fifty and then his agents pointing out that you
Speaker 1: got broadcasters are making twenty million. Josh Allen deserves the money.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes deserves the money. I guess if you want
Speaker 1: to say somebody deserves fifty million dollars, Hell, we're paying
Speaker 1: John Wall forty two million dollars to not play basketball.
Speaker 1: So it's sound like you go, man, the Packers going
Speaker 1: out to pay Aaron Rodgers fifty million. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: the going rate for great players. Kyler Murray's not in
Speaker 1: that category, but he's the next guy up. I would
Speaker 1: be waiting to see what Lamar Jackson gets and then
Speaker 1: maybe that helps your case, maybe you get more money
Speaker 1: out of this. But I'd be betting on myself. But
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they thought that it was going
Speaker 1: to be a great, great day yesterday with that strategy,
Speaker 1: because it's like, here, Chefty report this and then let's
Speaker 1: see what happens. Discuss eight forty five in the morning,
Speaker 1: and then everybody was all over this, and then what
Speaker 1: happens is you start to look at the negatives of
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or you start to downgrade him because of
Speaker 1: this approach. If nobody's saying anything about Lamar Jackson today,
Speaker 1: nobody's going, you know, I don't know if he's worth
Speaker 1: forty five Kyler Murray. That's the discussion you're getting. You know,
Speaker 1: is he worth that? No? And let's see what he
Speaker 1: does in the playoffs. What kind of poll question do
Speaker 1: we have today? They're Seaton O'Connor. That actually is a
Speaker 1: perfect springboard day our away. Yesterday's letter from Kyler Murray's
Speaker 1: agent was best for Kyler or the Cardinals? Oh? Well,
Speaker 1: was it best for the car I guess it's best
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals if they get to the point where
Speaker 1: they want to move on from him. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this helps in the negotiations other than I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, is he humbled by this and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden he goes, you know what, second thought? I
Speaker 1: you know, let's get a team friendly contract here. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything that they look back and go,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is going to change our approach here?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that, So I don't know
Speaker 1: what it means for the Cardinals. That they're going to
Speaker 1: get him for a cheaper rate, or they get a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a Hall pass if they decided
Speaker 1: not to extend him. What else do you have seedon? Well,
Speaker 1: there's another bombshell story that's just been rocking the sports landscape.
Speaker 1: Did the Packers deliberately snub Aaron Rodgers on the UK promo? Yes? No?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay. So the Packers are going to play
Speaker 1: in London and they hadn't played there, and they were
Speaker 1: going to recreate the Abbey Road photo with the Beatles
Speaker 1: and have four players walking across the cross squad. Where
Speaker 1: did they get that idea from? Yeah? Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I think you have a coach and four players back
Speaker 1: TR's on there, No Davante Adams, no Aaron Rodgers, And
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's like, what's that mean?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the green Bay Packers front office
Speaker 1: didn't know about this because of the sensitivity level when
Speaker 1: you attach Aaron Rodgers to this. I can't imagine that
Speaker 1: somebody goes, hey, who did the promo for the London game? Oh,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lipper and Tommy Snell, you know, are two twenty
Speaker 1: five year old intern like, I don't think that happens
Speaker 1: like this. I don't think you have that where you
Speaker 1: go just slap some guys together. Nobody's going to be
Speaker 1: reading into this. I would if I'm the Packers, I
Speaker 1: would go into it with the approach of we want
Speaker 1: Davonte and Aaron on our team. We expect them, we
Speaker 1: hope they're there, like we're thinking positive things here not
Speaker 1: I don't know, do we put him in there? Do
Speaker 1: we not? I would go under the assumption Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is under contract and we want him here and we're
Speaker 1: planning on him being here. But to leave Rogers and
Speaker 1: Adams out of the tweet for the London game, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that's a topic for McAfee today with Rogers
Speaker 1: on the show. Hey, or do you feel snubbed by this?
Speaker 1: You know nothing that maybe one hundred million dollar her
Speaker 1: contract couldn't if you can fix Aaron, Sorry about the
Speaker 1: London snub. Here's two years, one hundred million dollars. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get over it. Yeah, Davante I could see leaving
Speaker 1: out because he's a free agent. Yeah, so he's not
Speaker 1: even technically on the team. I guess I'm not exactly
Speaker 1: sure how that works, but he's a free agent. But Aaron,
Speaker 1: it's still I don't know, it's crazy, all right. Do
Speaker 1: you think they should have put Aaron Rodgers in that picture?
Speaker 1: Paulie should have? Okay, yeah, you should have because it's
Speaker 1: it's the clearest star on the team, Fritzie, just his
Speaker 1: sensitivity alone to everything Rodgers is recent enough to incorporate
Speaker 1: him somewhere and yeah, seton, No, I don't think they
Speaker 1: should have because he's doing everything about it's this grand
Speaker 1: unknown mystery, the illusion of if I'll be back. I
Speaker 1: don't know where will I be. We have to watch it,
Speaker 1: see like, okay, dude, then we're not going to put
Speaker 1: you in the thing A big deal. I mean you
Speaker 1: could have Aaron Rodgers. I'm not a Beatles fan, Marv.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Packers should have put him
Speaker 1: in there yet? Sensitivity? Yeah? Yeah, paul Why not do
Speaker 1: a separate post after this with Aaron Rodgers and the
Speaker 1: Queen of England. They're standing there at the castle. They're
Speaker 1: both single, you know, they're ball who knows well. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's in good shape right now, you know,
Speaker 1: sensitivities for the Queen, you know, I gotta worry about
Speaker 1: the queen too if I put her in there. Man
Speaker 1: sensitivity level Amber alert, Davante Adams, I get, But I
Speaker 1: still would have put him in there, just to say, like,
Speaker 1: it's not where we're gonna go at the start of
Speaker 1: the season. Oh can you believe that they put him
Speaker 1: in the picture and they're not even on the Packers anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's gonna be other things to
Speaker 1: talk about. Then you left Aaron Rodgers out of a picture.
Speaker 1: I think Packers fans in London will very upset. The
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Speaker 1: card something like that. You know. Two years ago this
Speaker 1: week we did a poll question and it was if
Speaker 1: you could redraft this is two years ago. Would you
Speaker 1: take Zion or Job Morant, both rookies, and you know
Speaker 1: Zion wasn't staying in the lineup, He wasn't consistently healthy.
Speaker 1: Job was playing, but you know he's playing in obscurity
Speaker 1: with Memphis. Now Memphis is the number three seed and Zion,
Speaker 1: although marketing wise, is a bigger name obviously, but John Morant,
Speaker 1: John Morand is making a case for MVP this year.
Speaker 1: Now you can say, what, well, there are three seed
Speaker 1: and I could look at Damarta Rosen with what the
Speaker 1: Bulls have done Joel Mbat. I mean, there's there's a
Speaker 1: few players that you can put in there. But John
Speaker 1: Morant deserves to be in there. When you think about it.
Speaker 1: Ja's third season, so he's twenty two average in twenty
Speaker 1: seven six and six. Zion last year at age twenty
Speaker 1: average twenty seven seven and four. And I know when
Speaker 1: we talked about this, I talked about John Morant. If
Speaker 1: I look at this bigger picture, wise has a better
Speaker 1: chance of being more consistent and staying healthy. Zion could
Speaker 1: give you highlights, but his highlights aren't anywhere near what
Speaker 1: John Morants are now because two years ago, it felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, Zion was the highlight guy. Then John Morant
Speaker 1: was the guy who got one scholarship offer. And now
Speaker 1: you look at this. That's when I look at these
Speaker 1: rankings when they go like, oh, just side a five
Speaker 1: star recruit there, you missed out. Somebody missed out. A
Speaker 1: lot of people missed out on John morand Murray State.
Speaker 1: And that was by accident. You know, guys were scouting
Speaker 1: somebody and they saw John Moran playing a three on
Speaker 1: three game at a basketball camp. So the scout's not
Speaker 1: even there to see John Moran, He's there to see
Speaker 1: somebody else. He goes get a snack. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he looks over and sees this kid in a three
Speaker 1: on three game and going, who's that? And that's how
Speaker 1: I ended up at Murray State. But that's why when
Speaker 1: I look at these guy, man, he's great. Now, Zion
Speaker 1: was worth the hype. I just you know, this season
Speaker 1: is really gonna be We're gonna look back on this
Speaker 1: season and go, you know what, like Michael Jordan when
Speaker 1: he broke his foot and you thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: the way he plays, is he going to have problems
Speaker 1: with this? Derrick Rose when he got hurt. Is he
Speaker 1: gonna have problems with this? Well? Derreck Rose did have
Speaker 1: problems with it, Michael Jordan did not. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna look back on this with Zion and go man.
Speaker 1: That could have ended his career or severely limited him.
Speaker 1: But unless he turns into Joel and Bead here, No,
Speaker 1: and Bead started slow those first two years. Now he's
Speaker 1: maybe the leading candidate for the MVP. But does Zion
Speaker 1: even want to be in New Orleans? And as I
Speaker 1: said a couple of months ago, this is really really
Speaker 1: concerning it and it has been and he probably won't
Speaker 1: play this year. All Right, we'll take a break, We'll
Speaker 1: get phone calls coming up, we'll settle on our poll question.
Speaker 1: Is that what we're gonna go with? Seaton? You want
Speaker 1: to go with the rerun the one from two years ago? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I want to go with Kyler Murray. Okay, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask Florio about you know what, what was the
Speaker 1: logic behind all of this? And did Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: his agent accomplish what they set out to do? Well?
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Speaker 1: an hour from now. We bring in Mike Florio, the
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Speaker 1: and his new book, Playmakers Must Read. It's coming out
Speaker 1: March fifteenth, could be purchased online wherever books are sold.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be upset by this book? Mike when
Speaker 1: it comes out? Everybody? Yeah, I don't. Look. It was
Speaker 1: funny because my wife was reading a draft the last
Speaker 1: summer and when she finished it, she said, this is
Speaker 1: really going to piss a lot of people off. And
Speaker 1: I said, it's nothing that I haven't said or written before.
Speaker 1: It's just all collected in one spot. So anybody has
Speaker 1: a problem with it, it's their problem, because it's my
Speaker 1: honest assessment of the way the NFL operates in. The
Speaker 1: NFL is the greatest product from a sports standpoint, in
Speaker 1: the country, if not on the planet, because no matter
Speaker 1: what it does by way of making missteps, unforced errors, controversy, scandals,
Speaker 1: things that have been mishandled from a business standpoint, still
Speaker 1: making more money than anything else, still gathering a live
Speaker 1: audience like nothing else, it almost has to try to
Speaker 1: impede its progress, and even if it tries, it's still
Speaker 1: going to continue to grow and grow and grow. Dan
Speaker 1: But I remember when Mark Cuban came out and said,
Speaker 1: you know that the NFL has got to be careful,
Speaker 1: you know when you're had on Thursday night football, And
Speaker 1: I think he was talking about hogs get fat and
Speaker 1: get slaughtered. Can you see an oversaturation at any point
Speaker 1: with the NFL. I remember that, well, pigs could get fat,
Speaker 1: hogs get slaughtered, and for a while I was concerned
Speaker 1: about that. But I just think our appetite for football
Speaker 1: has not yet reached the point where anyone would say, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's enough. We always want more, no matter how much
Speaker 1: more we get, we want more. The transition to Thursday
Speaker 1: was a little clunky, and there were concerns about it
Speaker 1: from a health standpoint, and those are real concerns, and
Speaker 1: there were players who complained about it. Richard Sherman called
Speaker 1: it a poop fest one I'm an all time favorite
Speaker 1: quotes from any player. But you know what, the NFL
Speaker 1: just keeps its head down, keeps going. And now Thursday
Speaker 1: night is baked in to the schedule. We would be
Speaker 1: feeling as if something's off if we didn't have Thursday
Speaker 1: night football. And you just have to wonder as the
Speaker 1: season continues to grow, and I think eighteen games is
Speaker 1: just a matter of time, will they look for other
Speaker 1: windows Tuesday night, Wednesday night at what else will they do?
Speaker 1: Because Dan with legalized gambling is gonna this bus. They're
Speaker 1: going to look for ways to have more one game
Speaker 1: at a time that millions can watch and bet on,
Speaker 1: not just the bigger wagers, one play at a time.
Speaker 1: The technology that will beam the games into our houses,
Speaker 1: so as we're watching it, it's exactly what's happening at
Speaker 1: the stadium. We get forty seconds between plays to make
Speaker 1: our next bet. It basically becomes a casino that invade
Speaker 1: your home whenever there's a game on. So I think
Speaker 1: they're going to expand the season, and they're going to
Speaker 1: spread out the windows so people can tune in from
Speaker 1: more of these games, so those opportunities for people to
Speaker 1: bet will be maximized. Could you see us exporting the
Speaker 1: super Bowl in the next decade. I'd be stunned if
Speaker 1: it happens. I think they like to talk about it
Speaker 1: from time to time. I think it's part of the
Speaker 1: teas that the NFL engages in with the UK, just
Speaker 1: to get them thinking, well, maybe someday we'll have the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, how can you How can you
Speaker 1: play the super Bowl at eleven thirty pm local time kickoff?
Speaker 1: How could you do that? That's what they would have
Speaker 1: to do if they're going to play a super Bowl
Speaker 1: in London at some point. Now, the average American fan,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It looks the same on the TV.
Speaker 1: All the London games look the same. It's no big deal.
Speaker 1: The fans or more aren't going to ever go to
Speaker 1: a super Bowl in their lifetime. They're watching it on TV.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where it's played. But I think I
Speaker 1: think that the allure of that helps grow the sport internationally,
Speaker 1: and before you get to a point where a super
Speaker 1: Bowl is played in a place like London, you'd have
Speaker 1: to have a team there, and I think that continues
Speaker 1: to be this vague promise that's on the table, and
Speaker 1: I think there would be two teams. They got two
Speaker 1: NFL stadiums, and I think if there was ever one
Speaker 1: team in London, there'd be two teams in London. All right,
Speaker 1: let me get to the poll question today seton would
Speaker 1: you give Mike Florio the wording on our poll question today?
Speaker 1: Yesterday's letter from Kyler Murray's agent was best for the
Speaker 1: Cardinals or Kyler is there a sea? Neither. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it really helps anybody, But it's how
Speaker 1: about this the rest of us? Because it allows the
Speaker 1: rest of to understand what's really going on here, these
Speaker 1: vague reports we've seen in recent weeks, Kyler Murray taking
Speaker 1: the team off of his social media platforms, the Chris
Speaker 1: Mortenson report from Super Bowl Sunday about Kyler being self centered,
Speaker 1: immature and finger pointing. Here's the problem, Dan. It used
Speaker 1: to be if you were a quarterback who did well
Speaker 1: enough to earn a second contract, the default was you
Speaker 1: became the next highest paid player in league history, and
Speaker 1: it would go up about a half million per year
Speaker 1: for each guy, and that went on for six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight guys. In the past two or three years, that's changed.
Speaker 1: You've got a fifteen million dollars per year spread from
Speaker 1: number one down to number ten. So yeah, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: want to sign the guy, but what do they want
Speaker 1: to pay him. They want to pay closer to thirty
Speaker 1: I believe, than forty five. And his agent, Eric Burkhard,
Speaker 1: who also represents Cliff Kingsbury, which makes it even more
Speaker 1: awkward for the team. Burkhard, it's going to walk closer
Speaker 1: to forty five, if not more. And one of the
Speaker 1: points Burkhart made recently in response to the notion that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers deserves fifty million, if not more, When you
Speaker 1: have announcers making twenty million a year, when Pat McAfee's
Speaker 1: getting thirty million a year from Fandel, there's money in
Speaker 1: the system to support more for the guys who are
Speaker 1: actually playing the game. And I think that's where we're
Speaker 1: going to see this going. Murray's going to be the
Speaker 1: first test case of how much Burkhart tries to get
Speaker 1: and how much the Cardinals are willing to pay. I
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson is far
Speaker 1: more worthy of an extension than Kyler Murray is. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the problem. Lamar Jackson decided, for whatever reason, and
Speaker 1: this is an individual personal decision that players need to make.
Speaker 1: He's decided to not have an agent. And when you
Speaker 1: make that decision, yes, you are going to save the one,
Speaker 1: two or three percent moms still representing him. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, here's the problem. There's really no one
Speaker 1: who's engaging with the Ravens. The Ravens were ready to
Speaker 1: sign him last year, but no one from Lamar's camp
Speaker 1: would engage them in real, meaningful negotiations aimed at getting
Speaker 1: a contract done. And if anything, you could argue his
Speaker 1: injuries last year and his overall performance last year may
Speaker 1: have may have damaged his leverage. And now they have
Speaker 1: a guy in Tyler Huntley that he's not Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: but he can run the same offense, and dollar for
Speaker 1: dollar for what it would take to keep Huntley around
Speaker 1: versus what it's going to take to make Jackson happy.
Speaker 1: Once they find out what that is, that that's the reality.
Speaker 1: And when Josh Allen did his deal, damn same draft
Speaker 1: class forty three million a year, When I saw the
Speaker 1: details of that deal, because I knew when I saw
Speaker 1: the initial report. Once I see the details, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: know do the Ravens want to do this same deal
Speaker 1: with Jackson or does Jackson want this deal? As soon
Speaker 1: as I read it and understood the details, this is
Speaker 1: a deal Jackson should want. So all he had to
Speaker 1: do was going to Erica, to the GM of the
Speaker 1: team and say, let's take the Josh Allen contract. Let's
Speaker 1: scratch out Buffalo Bills and put in Ravens. Scratch out
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, put in Lamar Jackson. Let's just do that.
Speaker 1: That's what they should have done, and it would have
Speaker 1: been in both sides interest because it's awkward for the
Speaker 1: Ravens to not have an agent to talk to because
Speaker 1: when there isn't an agent, you know, sometimes you gotta
Speaker 1: speak some hard truths in the negotiation. They can't do
Speaker 1: that with Lamar Jackson. They risk alienating him if they
Speaker 1: tell him why you know, they don't want to pay
Speaker 1: him fifty million a year. So it's a tough spot
Speaker 1: for everyone. But I feel bad for Jackson because he
Speaker 1: should have his deal by now, and because he's decided
Speaker 1: to go without an agent. He doesn't have it. I
Speaker 1: didn't have an agent for a long time. And when
Speaker 1: you sit down with I sat down with Dick Eversaul,
Speaker 1: So here's one of the legendary sports figures in this business.
Speaker 1: And he couldn't do it. He said, I I can't
Speaker 1: have these conversas I'd never done this where I have
Speaker 1: the conversation about a contract with the person, not an agent.
Speaker 1: And he passed it off to, you know, the guy
Speaker 1: underneath him, who had no problem been telling me some
Speaker 1: of my limitations there. But he couldn't do it. He
Speaker 1: just said, no, it's too awkward there. And I just
Speaker 1: remember walking out of his office and my wife said,
Speaker 1: how did it go? I said, he couldn't have a
Speaker 1: conversation with me about it. He had never done something
Speaker 1: like that. The NFL offseason, the overtime rule, the competition committee.
Speaker 1: To me, it feels like this is there's a logical
Speaker 1: endgame here and it's just both teams get a chance
Speaker 1: to have the ball. And maybe it's just in the postseason,
Speaker 1: like I don't know how you modify this, you know,
Speaker 1: how do you tweak it? But it feels like, hey,
Speaker 1: you score a touchdown, we still get a chance, and
Speaker 1: then everybody's going to be happy. Here. Is it as
Speaker 1: simple as that, Mike, It really is. Dan And in
Speaker 1: the days up to the Super Bowl and we had
Speaker 1: the five hour pregame show and I had to go
Speaker 1: shake the trees to try to have something to actually,
Speaker 1: you know, talk about when they put the camera on
Speaker 1: me and said go. One of the things I tried
Speaker 1: to delve into was what's going to happen with postseason overtime?
Speaker 1: And it's as of three weeks ago, it's more of
Speaker 1: a matter of which way is the wind blowing, but
Speaker 1: it was blowing in this direction. Guaranteed possession for each team,
Speaker 1: no gimmicks, nothing different than just playing football, but it
Speaker 1: would be in the postseason only. Now the Cults have
Speaker 1: proposed a change that would apply postseason and regular season.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to touch regular season. They
Speaker 1: don't want to extend the games in the regular season.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'd be fine with them going back to
Speaker 1: straight sudden death in the regular season just to get
Speaker 1: the game over with and let the teams get ready
Speaker 1: for the next week. And I won't be surprised if
Speaker 1: that happens at some point. But for the postseason, you
Speaker 1: got to guarantee a possession to each team. You can't
Speaker 1: have these results, not with the rules so skewed toward offense.
Speaker 1: The just play defense argument doesn't work in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: It may have worked in nineteen eighty two, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work now because the rules are too conducive, and when
Speaker 1: you get to the postseason, you've got the best quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: they're more likely to drive down the length of the
Speaker 1: field and score a touchdown and walk off the winner.
Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna end up being a guaranteed
Speaker 1: possession and a great strategic decision to be made by
Speaker 1: the team that matches. You're down seven, you score, Do
Speaker 1: you go for two and the win or the loss?
Speaker 1: Or do you go for one and then kick off
Speaker 1: knowing it's now sudden death. He's Mike Florio, Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk Live co host. In his new book is called
Speaker 1: Playmakers Guaranteed to Upset Everybody in the NFL, comes out
Speaker 1: March fifteenth, can be purchased online wherever books are sold.
Speaker 1: You had the Sean Payton Tom Brady's story on Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk, and the Dolphins were interested in coupling these
Speaker 1: two guys. When did this story emerge like how close
Speaker 1: was this to fruition? Well, I first heard about it
Speaker 1: even before Sean Payton resigned from the Saints, and it's
Speaker 1: something that's been lingering and building, and we got to
Speaker 1: a point last week where we thought there was enough
Speaker 1: there to report responsibly, not to be confused with my
Speaker 1: usual irresponsible reports, that the Dolphins were indeed planning to
Speaker 1: make a run at a package deal of Peyton and Brady,
Speaker 1: and the Flores lawsuit killed it. Now. I don't know
Speaker 1: who decided to pull the plug. It's very easy to
Speaker 1: say the Dolphins realized we can't do this. Now, we
Speaker 1: can't do this this, you know, wink nods set everything
Speaker 1: up ahead of time, Get Sean Payton, get Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: We can't do that. Given the content and the allegations
Speaker 1: and the gravity the Brian Flores lawsuit. It's also possible
Speaker 1: the league said you can't do that. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've kind of heard rumors along those lines, but can't
Speaker 1: substantiate that the league intervened and said to the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: you can't do it. And Dan. One thing that fascinates me,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to find out the answer to this question,
Speaker 1: how much of the Brian Flores lawsuit, for example, the
Speaker 1: allegation in there that he was pressured by Stephen Ross,
Speaker 1: the owner of the team, to meet with a prominent
Speaker 1: quarterback in violation of the rules, and everybody knows it
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady back in twenty twenty. How much of
Speaker 1: the lawsuit was aimed at putting the kai bosh on
Speaker 1: the Peyton Brady coupling in Miami. If Flores knew it
Speaker 1: was coming, if he'd caught wind of it, did his
Speaker 1: lawsuit in part? Was it written in part, drafted in
Speaker 1: part timed in part to keep the Dolphins from doing it.
Speaker 1: That's something I'm trying to find out. But that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: If Flores just decided, you know what, screw these guys.
Speaker 1: They violated my rights. They fired me when I should
Speaker 1: have continued to be there. They tried to get me
Speaker 1: to do things that they shouldn't have expected me to do,
Speaker 1: and they got mad at me because of it. They
Speaker 1: got this grand plan for twenty twenty two. This lawsuits
Speaker 1: going to keep that plan from coming to Fruition'd be
Speaker 1: fascinating if that was part of why Flores said what
Speaker 1: he said and did what he did. When he did it.
Speaker 1: You're going Oliver Stone there on me. Listen, there's all, Hey,
Speaker 1: we know this league well enough to know there's always
Speaker 1: something going on behind the curtain. That's why we love it.
Speaker 1: But you've been on this story before anybody, and that
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady to the forty nine ers. And it
Speaker 1: feels like it's been at least a year, maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of years where you've toyed with it or thrown
Speaker 1: it out there or rumor innuendo. Can you still see
Speaker 1: Tom Brady playing again? And if so, is it for
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers? Oh? Absolutely? And I gotta get
Speaker 1: Sim's credit. He's the one that first brought that to
Speaker 1: fruition a couple of years ago, that Brady wanted to
Speaker 1: play for the forty nine ers when he was a
Speaker 1: free agent after leaving a Patriots or while he was
Speaker 1: in the process of doing so. In the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers said no, thank you, okay, good luck, good luck
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. And I think the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: would admit that they probably have a Super Bowl trophy
Speaker 1: or two if they had gone with Tom Brady instead
Speaker 1: of Jimmy g But I think that Tom Brady, especially
Speaker 1: after this Sean Payton, Miami Dolphins, Tom Brady thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's retired Dan. I think he's retired from
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. That's what I think the retirement was. I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to find a graceful exit from Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: He got a Super Bowl win last year, they took
Speaker 1: a step back, and now I think he is eyeing
Speaker 1: a place where he walks through the door with the
Speaker 1: deck stacked in his favor. And what place other than
Speaker 1: San Francisco give Trey Lance another season to sit. You
Speaker 1: walk into a team that's super Bowl ready, that is
Speaker 1: dangerous defensively, that has great weapons. Offensively, you got a
Speaker 1: quarterback who can make big throws in big spots. The
Speaker 1: forty nine has become a shortlist super Bowl favorite if
Speaker 1: Tom Brady ends up there. The question is how much
Speaker 1: of a fight will the Buccaneers put up if he
Speaker 1: decides in junior July that he wants to leave. And
Speaker 1: I would say they owe it to him to give
Speaker 1: him what he wants. He brought a Super Bowl trophy
Speaker 1: to a team that had no business being in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, and he filled the stadium last year. I
Speaker 1: think they should work with him and give him what
Speaker 1: he wants, if that's what he wants to do. But
Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. I just think he's trying
Speaker 1: to find a way out of Tampa. Are you willing
Speaker 1: to bet on that? How much like a pie to
Speaker 1: the face? Oh, a pine of the face? I mean
Speaker 1: pine of the face is nothing. It depends. I mean
Speaker 1: unless it's like, you know, an acid pie. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: pie of your choice. Anybody want to take Florio up
Speaker 1: on a pie to the face Polly? Polly will say
Speaker 1: that Brady does not not come back. Just the Niners.
Speaker 1: We're talking right, Just the Niners. I'll do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So pie to the face Florio? Wait week one, Niners.
Speaker 1: If he's on the Niners, who takes a pie to
Speaker 1: the face? Polly does? Polly does? And if he's not
Speaker 1: on the Niners and I take the pie of it? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: you come on the show and maybe your wife can
Speaker 1: administer or Chris Sims could administer a pie to the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it may have to be a virtual parte of the face.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you my wife would very much enjoy
Speaker 1: the assignment. Yes, he's slamming a pine to my face. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel like Week one is a very important part
Speaker 1: of this bet Why because couldn't you see town Brady
Speaker 1: maybe like somewhere later in the season joining I you know,
Speaker 1: nothing Brady does is you know, by accident. Like everything
Speaker 1: is structured, everything is planned out. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna go you know, maybe I'll join them week six.
Speaker 1: I think if he's planning, then he's planning now and
Speaker 1: he would be there. He would want to be there
Speaker 1: Week one. Last thing you want to do is all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Trey Lanz plays well and then you
Speaker 1: get Brady and you're like, why do we get Brady?
Speaker 1: Trey Lanz is here, pie to the face. I like that.
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta ask you because everybody has breathlessly been
Speaker 1: talking about this that Aaron Rodgers wasn't in the London
Speaker 1: promo for the Packers in the abbey Road picture. There.
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on this, Mike? I think if
Speaker 1: you take the original twelve inch vinyl Abbey Road and
Speaker 1: put it on track three of side one and run
Speaker 1: it backwards, it says Aaron Rodgers is staying in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: They had no idea how prescient they were. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we got to be finding out here soon doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like today with McAfee, he announces what he can stay.
Speaker 1: I think, look, when the news comes out that they're
Speaker 1: working on a contract, why are you working on a
Speaker 1: contract if you're not staying? And it's smart for him
Speaker 1: to work out the contract before he gives him an answer,
Speaker 1: because he's got leverage. If he says I'm coming back now,
Speaker 1: let's work out a contract, they've there's no leverage left
Speaker 1: to be had, and it's like, you know they this
Speaker 1: report that he's once fifty million dollars a year to
Speaker 1: me is not surprising like you've talked about. If I'm
Speaker 1: the Packers, I just say, I'm going to call your bluff.
Speaker 1: Here's two years, one hundred million dollars guarantee. That's it
Speaker 1: ball game. And there's no owner in Green Bay that's
Speaker 1: siphoning off millions to go buy a super yacht. They
Speaker 1: can invest every penny they make back in the team.
Speaker 1: And they've raised like seventy million through their non stock
Speaker 1: stock sale. They can do this easily. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to stay Dan. Where else is he going to
Speaker 1: go and have a team around him like what he
Speaker 1: has in Green Bay? He's not gonna walk in somewhere
Speaker 1: else and be a Super Bowl winner. His best chance
Speaker 1: is to stay in a division where the Bears have
Speaker 1: a new GM and coach. The Vikings have a new
Speaker 1: GM and coach. The Lions are in year two of
Speaker 1: their latest reboot. The schedule is favorable this year. They
Speaker 1: could be the number one seed again. The question is
Speaker 1: can they finish the job and get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you is always, and good luck
Speaker 1: with the book. Thanks Dan. That's Mike Florio Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk and the book is called Playmakers. It sounds March fifteenth.
Speaker 1: I got an autograph copy. I didn't know he autographed
Speaker 1: it until I had Paulie look at it. That was
Speaker 1: kind of awkward. It's like, Florio, you sent me a book,
Speaker 1: you did an autograph because I did. Oops. I had
Speaker 1: to go back and yeah he did. All right, we'll
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Speaker 1: play with John Morant last night? Adams baseball pass one
Speaker 1: of two Morant catches mine. Is he alright? Mid air?
Speaker 1: He caught in midair? He floated it up and end.
Speaker 1: You have got to be kidding me. John Morant is
Speaker 1: at an absolutely another level. A baseball pass caught in midair,
Speaker 1: predirected to the basket from twenty feet out. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: what are we witnessing? So that is a full court
Speaker 1: pass by Steven Adams to John Morant with four tenths
Speaker 1: of a second left in the first half. He catches
Speaker 1: it and shoots it from about fifteen feet and makes it.
Speaker 1: It was it was John Morant night last night. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's this fun moment too where you could see it.
Speaker 1: Adams is taking the ball out, He's looking down court
Speaker 1: and when you can see John Morant, he's pointing up
Speaker 1: like throw it up. Oh my god, it's you know
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go out of your way to
Speaker 1: find him with Memphis that they're not usually going to
Speaker 1: be musty TV, but they're number three seed and he's
Speaker 1: mussy TV. Paulie. We asked the question two years ago
Speaker 1: this week that if you could have Zion Williams that
Speaker 1: or Jahn Morant, who would you take long term? And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons we did the poll question that
Speaker 1: they had checked my notes is that Zion was having
Speaker 1: knee trouble and they were sitting him down for a
Speaker 1: while when there was concern around his knee, and so
Speaker 1: he was playing well but not playing a lot. Eighty
Speaker 1: two percent still would have redrafted taken Zion Williamson two
Speaker 1: years ago this week. Yeah, I think I was in
Speaker 1: the Jah Morant camp. I think Zion because of name recognition,
Speaker 1: but John Morand. But John Morant goes to the hoop
Speaker 1: like there's there's a Derek Rose feel to him that
Speaker 1: he is attacking. But he's a good shooter, and I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody who's scored more two point baskets
Speaker 1: this year than John Morant, and he's becoming a better
Speaker 1: outside shooter. I think it's thirty four percent from three
Speaker 1: point range. That's respectable because if you give me that
Speaker 1: dimension and you attacks like the Greek freak. If the
Speaker 1: Greek freak is able to get thirty four percent of
Speaker 1: his three point shots, then it's over. Like nobody can
Speaker 1: guard him if you have that added element there. But
Speaker 1: John Morant what he does at age twenty two, twenty seven,
Speaker 1: six and six, you know this is a guy who
Speaker 1: could lead the league in scoring, and you know that's
Speaker 1: a that's a walking highlight. His fifty two points broke
Speaker 1: the franchise record, which he's set. John Moran owns four
Speaker 1: of the team's top six scoring performances. Three of them
Speaker 1: have come in the past two weeks. There, all right,
Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls in here. By the way,
Speaker 1: this isn't a leap year, is it, Polly? This is
Speaker 1: not we thought it was Todd. Todd put out February
Speaker 1: twenty nine. I did. When I set out the guest list,
Speaker 1: I put two twenty nine three one in court. Major confusion. Okay,
Speaker 1: but this isn't a leap year. By the way, when
Speaker 1: when you celebrate your birthday in a leap year, you
Speaker 1: celebrate it the twenty eighth or March first. When it's
Speaker 1: not a leap year. How does that work the other
Speaker 1: three years? Yes, Todd, I would think you would celebrate
Speaker 1: it after the fact, like you know, like midnight the
Speaker 1: next day, because you know, anything could happen to you
Speaker 1: to give it more. But I guess it's kind of
Speaker 1: a you know, a morbid way of looking at it,
Speaker 1: but like you know, live for that, you know, next day,
Speaker 1: which would have normally been February twenty ninth. And then wait,
Speaker 1: I just asked when you celebrate, not that you might die,
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't celebrate your brother of the day before
Speaker 1: your birthday and say wait till it's your Actually, then
Speaker 1: I do it on the twenty eighth in case I die.
Speaker 1: You could look at it that, but I think on
Speaker 1: to your fever officially locked into that, you've established yourself
Speaker 1: as that new age on midnight March. Yes, Polly, nothing
Speaker 1: is more annoying than people whose birthday is on leap
Speaker 1: here February twenty ninth. They think it's very much more
Speaker 1: special than it is. They say, oh, I've only had
Speaker 1: seven birthdays and I'm whatever age I am. I can't
Speaker 1: do the math, but you know that's I had a
Speaker 1: kid grown up. I think I mentioned it at all
Speaker 1: she would talk about, is it's not really my birthday?
Speaker 1: And oh that's that's the thing. Who's the most famous
Speaker 1: leap here baby, Dan? That's a great question because I
Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea who this person is. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: someone named According to this famous birthdays dot com always reputable,
Speaker 1: the number one most famous person born on February twenty
Speaker 1: ninth is a TikTok star named Nicholas Ray. Do you
Speaker 1: want to guess who number two is? Though Yaka Podal
Speaker 1: no close? Ja Morant? Excuse me, jah Rule? Would you
Speaker 1: rather be jah Rule or jahn Morant? Full questions? We'll
Speaker 1: check in with the Lakers coming up one hour in
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