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It's no secret the Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: Murray wants a contract extension. We started yesterday's show talking 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray and his agent and what Tony Kornheiser 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: on pardon the interruption, liken to a ransom note. Basically, Hey, 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: if you want this quarterback, paid this amount of money 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: and then we'll give him to you. His agent released 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: a statement that said actions speak louder than words and 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals should be rushing to extend their quote 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: rapidly improving quarterback end quote. Kyler's great talent, but rapidly 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: improving might be a stretch because he's had similar numbers 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: all three years in the league, and these are good numbers, 22 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl numbers. But if actions speak louder than words, 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: his performance in the playoffs certainly don't bilde well for him. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Because Murray completed fifty five percent of his passes, no touchdowns, 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: two interceptions versus the Rams in the wild card game. 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Actions speak louder than words. If you're going to pay 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: a quarterback forty five million dollars a year, you need 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: to show up in big games and or at least 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: have an overall winning record, which he doesn't. Now, the 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals aren't going to get rid of Kyler Murray, I 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: don't think, but it does put them in an interesting 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: position because if Kyler Murray, let's say you play this 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: out one more year before you pay him. But let's 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: say he doesn't improve. Let's say he gives you twenty 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: five touchdowns, ten interceptions, rushes for seven hundred yards. That's 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: what he does. Those are good numbers. Those aren't great numbers, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: but those are good numbers. I want to see if 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: they advance in the playoffs, because really that's the key, 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: because he might be a Russell Wilson type quarterback where 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: he's not going to have big numbers, but he's going 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: to be dangerous. He's going to be daring, game on 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: the line. That's the guy you want. He can beat 43 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: you with his arm and his legs. But you start 44 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: to make these kind of demands and I would wait 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: and I'd wait it out. Now, you might upset him 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: or his agent, But what if what if he doesn't 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: give me a great year? What if he underwhelms, then 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: I can move on a little bit easier. In the 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: fan base will probably say, yeah, he's not worth the headache. 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I do like Kyler Murray. I think he's he has 51 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: the potential to be a great player. But I think 52 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: that there is there's a polarizing aspect of him. And 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, I can look at this and say he's immature, 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: he's young, he's twenty four, but he's being a businessman. 55 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a businessman, then you have to 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: be grown up. And I don't think that yesterday did 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: him any great service. You know, if his agent and 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talked today, I want to know if they go, Yep, 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: we had a good day yesterday, because I don't think 60 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: they did. I think they had a bad day. Perception wise. 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: But you have to think these things through. You have 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: to sit down and go, Okay, this is what we're 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: going to do. Okay, what kind of reaction do you 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: think we're going to get. Oh, they'll probably be this 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of reaction from the media. What about the Cardinals. Oh, 66 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: they probably won't do anything. They won't say anything publicly. Okay, 67 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: Well what if the media says that we're, you know, 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: holding him up for ransom? Well that's okay. But I 69 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know how you could go through this process and go, man, 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: we had a good day. Now we did talk about 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Then you start to dissect his career. You 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: start to look at what he does and doesn't do. 73 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: You compare him to other quarterbacks, other quarterbacks who got 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: their contract a year earlier. And I understand that you 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: can say, Jared Goff, did he deserve it when he 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl? Now, is he a franchise quarterback? No, 77 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: but he went to the Super Bowl, and I'll put 78 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: that on the Rams. I don't know why they extended him, 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: but they did. Carson Wentz he got extended and I 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: think we thought he was going to be the MVP. 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen got his contract extended. Patrick Mahomes a year early. Okay, 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I look at Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes 83 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: in a different category than I do Kyler Murray. But 84 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray needs to prove in the playoffs. There are 85 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of great regular season quarterbacks. You know, Lamar Jackson. 86 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: I haven't heard a peep out of his camp. And 87 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is far more worthy of a contract extension, right. 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything with Lamar Jackson from his camp, 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: Lamar or anybody. Now, is that going to get done? Yes? 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Like Baker Mayfield, I would not extend him. And this 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: is where you bet on yourself. If you're Kyler Murray, 92 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: you just say, all right, I'm going to bet on myself. 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's what he did yesterday, 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott bet on himself. And if you are 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: that good, then bet on yourself. Because Kyler Murray wants 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: it now, well, I'm still not sure if I want 97 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: to give you forty five million dollars a year. And 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I know that sounds strange because that's the going rate. 99 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: I just can't wrap my head around everybody. The next 100 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: guy up gets this kind of money. Is Kyler Murray, 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, No, not everybody is Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers 102 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: wants fifty and then his agents pointing out that you 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: got broadcasters are making twenty million. Josh Allen deserves the money. 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes deserves the money. I guess if you want 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: to say somebody deserves fifty million dollars, Hell, we're paying 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: John Wall forty two million dollars to not play basketball. 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: So it's sound like you go, man, the Packers going 108 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: out to pay Aaron Rodgers fifty million. Yeah, and that's 109 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: the going rate for great players. Kyler Murray's not in 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: that category, but he's the next guy up. I would 111 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: be waiting to see what Lamar Jackson gets and then 112 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: maybe that helps your case, maybe you get more money 113 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: out of this. But I'd be betting on myself. But 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that they thought that it was going 115 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: to be a great, great day yesterday with that strategy, 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: because it's like, here, Chefty report this and then let's 117 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: see what happens. Discuss eight forty five in the morning, 118 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: and then everybody was all over this, and then what 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: happens is you start to look at the negatives of 120 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or you start to downgrade him because of 121 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: this approach. If nobody's saying anything about Lamar Jackson today, 122 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: nobody's going, you know, I don't know if he's worth 123 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: forty five Kyler Murray. That's the discussion you're getting. You know, 124 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: is he worth that? No? And let's see what he 125 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: does in the playoffs. What kind of poll question do 126 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: we have today? They're Seaton O'Connor. That actually is a 127 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: perfect springboard day our away. Yesterday's letter from Kyler Murray's 128 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: agent was best for Kyler or the Cardinals? Oh? Well, 129 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: was it best for the car I guess it's best 130 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals if they get to the point where 131 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: they want to move on from him. I don't know 132 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: if this helps in the negotiations other than I mean, 133 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, is he humbled by this and all of 134 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: a sudden he goes, you know what, second thought? I 135 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, let's get a team friendly contract here. I 136 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything that they look back and go, 137 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: you know what, this is going to change our approach here? 138 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that, So I don't know 139 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: what it means for the Cardinals. That they're going to 140 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: get him for a cheaper rate, or they get a 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: little bit more of a Hall pass if they decided 142 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: not to extend him. What else do you have seedon? Well, 143 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: there's another bombshell story that's just been rocking the sports landscape. 144 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Did the Packers deliberately snub Aaron Rodgers on the UK promo? Yes? No? 145 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay. So the Packers are going to play 146 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: in London and they hadn't played there, and they were 147 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: going to recreate the Abbey Road photo with the Beatles 148 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: and have four players walking across the cross squad. Where 149 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: did they get that idea from? Yeah? Yeah, And so 150 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: I think you have a coach and four players back 151 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: TR's on there, No Davante Adams, no Aaron Rodgers, And 152 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's like, what's that mean? 153 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that the green Bay Packers front office 154 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: didn't know about this because of the sensitivity level when 155 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: you attach Aaron Rodgers to this. I can't imagine that 156 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: somebody goes, hey, who did the promo for the London game? Oh, 157 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lipper and Tommy Snell, you know, are two twenty 158 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: five year old intern like, I don't think that happens 159 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: like this. I don't think you have that where you 160 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: go just slap some guys together. Nobody's going to be 161 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: reading into this. I would if I'm the Packers, I 162 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: would go into it with the approach of we want 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Davonte and Aaron on our team. We expect them, we 164 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: hope they're there, like we're thinking positive things here not 165 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, do we put him in there? Do 166 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: we not? I would go under the assumption Aaron Rodgers 167 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: is under contract and we want him here and we're 168 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: planning on him being here. But to leave Rogers and 169 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Adams out of the tweet for the London game, I mean, 170 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: I guess that's a topic for McAfee today with Rogers 171 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: on the show. Hey, or do you feel snubbed by this? 172 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: You know nothing that maybe one hundred million dollar her 173 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: contract couldn't if you can fix Aaron, Sorry about the 174 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: London snub. Here's two years, one hundred million dollars. Okay, 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: I'll get over it. Yeah, Davante I could see leaving 176 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: out because he's a free agent. Yeah, so he's not 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: even technically on the team. I guess I'm not exactly 178 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: sure how that works, but he's a free agent. But Aaron, 179 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: it's still I don't know, it's crazy, all right. Do 180 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: you think they should have put Aaron Rodgers in that picture? 181 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: Paulie should have? Okay, yeah, you should have because it's 182 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: it's the clearest star on the team, Fritzie, just his 183 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: sensitivity alone to everything Rodgers is recent enough to incorporate 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: him somewhere and yeah, seton, No, I don't think they 185 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: should have because he's doing everything about it's this grand 186 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: unknown mystery, the illusion of if I'll be back. I 187 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: don't know where will I be. We have to watch it, 188 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: see like, okay, dude, then we're not going to put 189 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: you in the thing A big deal. I mean you 190 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: could have Aaron Rodgers. I'm not a Beatles fan, Marv. 191 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: Do you think that the Packers should have put him 192 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: in there yet? Sensitivity? Yeah? Yeah, paul Why not do 193 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: a separate post after this with Aaron Rodgers and the 194 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: Queen of England. They're standing there at the castle. They're 195 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: both single, you know, they're ball who knows well. I 196 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: don't think she's in good shape right now, you know, 197 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: sensitivities for the Queen, you know, I gotta worry about 198 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: the queen too if I put her in there. Man 199 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: sensitivity level Amber alert, Davante Adams, I get, But I 200 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: still would have put him in there, just to say, like, 201 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: it's not where we're gonna go at the start of 202 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: the season. Oh can you believe that they put him 203 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: in the picture and they're not even on the Packers anymore. 204 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's gonna be other things to 205 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: talk about. Then you left Aaron Rodgers out of a picture. 206 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: I think Packers fans in London will very upset. The 207 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: hottest rookies, biggest superstars, the old time greats. Only one 208 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: place to collect him all Pannini Trading Cards, the official 209 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: trading cards of the DP show, Instant classics, autograph cards, 210 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Member Billy cards, rare inserts and more. Starter Continued collection 211 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: now at Panini America dot net. What's Kyler Murray's rookie 212 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: card going for? Curious? I don't know. I don't know 213 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: how this goes with the value of the I was 214 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: wondering about job morants, you know, trading cards now, rookie 215 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: card something like that. You know. Two years ago this 216 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: week we did a poll question and it was if 217 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: you could redraft this is two years ago. Would you 218 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: take Zion or Job Morant, both rookies, and you know 219 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: Zion wasn't staying in the lineup, He wasn't consistently healthy. 220 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,479 Speaker 1: Job was playing, but you know he's playing in obscurity 221 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: with Memphis. Now Memphis is the number three seed and Zion, 222 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: although marketing wise, is a bigger name obviously, but John Morant, 223 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: John Morand is making a case for MVP this year. 224 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: Now you can say, what, well, there are three seed 225 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: and I could look at Damarta Rosen with what the 226 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Bulls have done Joel Mbat. I mean, there's there's a 227 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: few players that you can put in there. But John 228 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Morant deserves to be in there. When you think about it. 229 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Ja's third season, so he's twenty two average in twenty 230 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: seven six and six. Zion last year at age twenty 231 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: average twenty seven seven and four. And I know when 232 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: we talked about this, I talked about John Morant. If 233 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I look at this bigger picture, wise has a better 234 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: chance of being more consistent and staying healthy. Zion could 235 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: give you highlights, but his highlights aren't anywhere near what 236 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: John Morants are now because two years ago, it felt like, 237 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, Zion was the highlight guy. Then John Morant 238 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: was the guy who got one scholarship offer. And now 239 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: you look at this. That's when I look at these 240 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: rankings when they go like, oh, just side a five 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: star recruit there, you missed out. Somebody missed out. A 242 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: lot of people missed out on John morand Murray State. 243 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: And that was by accident. You know, guys were scouting 244 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: somebody and they saw John Moran playing a three on 245 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: three game at a basketball camp. So the scout's not 246 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: even there to see John Moran, He's there to see 247 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: somebody else. He goes get a snack. All of a sudden, 248 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: he looks over and sees this kid in a three 249 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: on three game and going, who's that? And that's how 250 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I ended up at Murray State. But that's why when 251 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: I look at these guy, man, he's great. Now, Zion 252 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: was worth the hype. I just you know, this season 253 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: is really gonna be We're gonna look back on this 254 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: season and go, you know what, like Michael Jordan when 255 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: he broke his foot and you thought, oh, you know, 256 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: the way he plays, is he going to have problems 257 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: with this? Derrick Rose when he got hurt. Is he 258 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna have problems with this? Well? Derreck Rose did have 259 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: problems with it, Michael Jordan did not. I think we're 260 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: gonna look back on this with Zion and go man. 261 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: That could have ended his career or severely limited him. 262 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: But unless he turns into Joel and Bead here, No, 263 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: and Bead started slow those first two years. Now he's 264 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: maybe the leading candidate for the MVP. But does Zion 265 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: even want to be in New Orleans? And as I 266 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: said a couple of months ago, this is really really 267 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: concerning it and it has been and he probably won't 268 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: play this year. All Right, we'll take a break, We'll 269 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: get phone calls coming up, we'll settle on our poll question. 270 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: Is that what we're gonna go with? Seaton? You want 271 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: to go with the rerun the one from two years ago? No? No, no, 272 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: I want to go with Kyler Murray. Okay, because I'm 273 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: gonna ask Florio about you know what, what was the 274 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: logic behind all of this? And did Kyler Murray and 275 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: his agent accomplish what they set out to do? Well? 276 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: Take a break back after this Dan Patrick show, m Drive. 277 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: You can hear it. 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Also our radio affiliates, including 305 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio nearly four hundred cities around America. 306 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: We'll check in with the Lakers coming up in about 307 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: an hour from now. We bring in Mike Florio, the 308 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: popular co host of Pro Football Talk Live. You can 309 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: see that preceding our show on Peacock with Chris Simms 310 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: and his new book, Playmakers Must Read. It's coming out 311 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: March fifteenth, could be purchased online wherever books are sold. 312 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: Who's going to be upset by this book? Mike when 313 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: it comes out? Everybody? Yeah, I don't. Look. It was 314 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: funny because my wife was reading a draft the last 315 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: summer and when she finished it, she said, this is 316 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: really going to piss a lot of people off. And 317 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: I said, it's nothing that I haven't said or written before. 318 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: It's just all collected in one spot. So anybody has 319 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: a problem with it, it's their problem, because it's my 320 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: honest assessment of the way the NFL operates in. The 321 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: NFL is the greatest product from a sports standpoint, in 322 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: the country, if not on the planet, because no matter 323 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: what it does by way of making missteps, unforced errors, controversy, scandals, 324 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: things that have been mishandled from a business standpoint, still 325 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: making more money than anything else, still gathering a live 326 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: audience like nothing else, it almost has to try to 327 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: impede its progress, and even if it tries, it's still 328 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: going to continue to grow and grow and grow. Dan 329 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: But I remember when Mark Cuban came out and said, 330 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: you know that the NFL has got to be careful, 331 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: you know when you're had on Thursday night football, And 332 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: I think he was talking about hogs get fat and 333 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: get slaughtered. Can you see an oversaturation at any point 334 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: with the NFL. I remember that, well, pigs could get fat, 335 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: hogs get slaughtered, and for a while I was concerned 336 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: about that. But I just think our appetite for football 337 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: has not yet reached the point where anyone would say, Okay, 338 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: that's enough. We always want more, no matter how much 339 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: more we get, we want more. The transition to Thursday 340 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: was a little clunky, and there were concerns about it 341 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: from a health standpoint, and those are real concerns, and 342 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: there were players who complained about it. Richard Sherman called 343 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: it a poop fest one I'm an all time favorite 344 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: quotes from any player. But you know what, the NFL 345 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: just keeps its head down, keeps going. And now Thursday 346 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: night is baked in to the schedule. We would be 347 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: feeling as if something's off if we didn't have Thursday 348 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: night football. And you just have to wonder as the 349 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: season continues to grow, and I think eighteen games is 350 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: just a matter of time, will they look for other 351 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: windows Tuesday night, Wednesday night at what else will they do? 352 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: Because Dan with legalized gambling is gonna this bus. They're 353 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: going to look for ways to have more one game 354 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: at a time that millions can watch and bet on, 355 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: not just the bigger wagers, one play at a time. 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: The technology that will beam the games into our houses, 357 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: so as we're watching it, it's exactly what's happening at 358 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: the stadium. We get forty seconds between plays to make 359 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: our next bet. It basically becomes a casino that invade 360 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: your home whenever there's a game on. So I think 361 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: they're going to expand the season, and they're going to 362 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: spread out the windows so people can tune in from 363 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: more of these games, so those opportunities for people to 364 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: bet will be maximized. Could you see us exporting the 365 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: super Bowl in the next decade. I'd be stunned if 366 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: it happens. I think they like to talk about it 367 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: from time to time. I think it's part of the 368 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: teas that the NFL engages in with the UK, just 369 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: to get them thinking, well, maybe someday we'll have the 370 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, how can you How can you 371 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: play the super Bowl at eleven thirty pm local time kickoff? 372 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: How could you do that? That's what they would have 373 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: to do if they're going to play a super Bowl 374 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: in London at some point. Now, the average American fan, 375 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It looks the same on the TV. 376 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: All the London games look the same. It's no big deal. 377 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: The fans or more aren't going to ever go to 378 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: a super Bowl in their lifetime. They're watching it on TV. 379 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where it's played. But I think I 380 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: think that the allure of that helps grow the sport internationally, 381 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: and before you get to a point where a super 382 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: Bowl is played in a place like London, you'd have 383 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: to have a team there, and I think that continues 384 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: to be this vague promise that's on the table, and 385 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 1: I think there would be two teams. They got two 386 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: NFL stadiums, and I think if there was ever one 387 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: team in London, there'd be two teams in London. All right, 388 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: let me get to the poll question today seton would 389 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: you give Mike Florio the wording on our poll question today? 390 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: Yesterday's letter from Kyler Murray's agent was best for the 391 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals or Kyler is there a sea? Neither. I mean, 392 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it really helps anybody, But it's how 393 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: about this the rest of us? Because it allows the 394 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: rest of to understand what's really going on here, these 395 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: vague reports we've seen in recent weeks, Kyler Murray taking 396 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: the team off of his social media platforms, the Chris 397 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Mortenson report from Super Bowl Sunday about Kyler being self centered, 398 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: immature and finger pointing. Here's the problem, Dan. It used 399 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: to be if you were a quarterback who did well 400 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: enough to earn a second contract, the default was you 401 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: became the next highest paid player in league history, and 402 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: it would go up about a half million per year 403 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: for each guy, and that went on for six, seven, 404 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: eight guys. In the past two or three years, that's changed. 405 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: You've got a fifteen million dollars per year spread from 406 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: number one down to number ten. So yeah, the Cardinals 407 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: want to sign the guy, but what do they want 408 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: to pay him. They want to pay closer to thirty 409 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I believe, than forty five. And his agent, Eric Burkhard, 410 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: who also represents Cliff Kingsbury, which makes it even more 411 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: awkward for the team. Burkhard, it's going to walk closer 412 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: to forty five, if not more. And one of the 413 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: points Burkhart made recently in response to the notion that 414 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers deserves fifty million, if not more, When you 415 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: have announcers making twenty million a year, when Pat McAfee's 416 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: getting thirty million a year from Fandel, there's money in 417 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: the system to support more for the guys who are 418 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: actually playing the game. And I think that's where we're 419 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: going to see this going. Murray's going to be the 420 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: first test case of how much Burkhart tries to get 421 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: and how much the Cardinals are willing to pay. I 422 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: haven't heard anything about Lamar Jackson Lamar Jackson is far 423 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: more worthy of an extension than Kyler Murray is. Well, 424 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: here's the problem. Lamar Jackson decided, for whatever reason, and 425 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: this is an individual personal decision that players need to make. 426 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: He's decided to not have an agent. And when you 427 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: make that decision, yes, you are going to save the one, 428 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: two or three percent moms still representing him. Well yeah, 429 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: but you know, here's the problem. There's really no one 430 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: who's engaging with the Ravens. The Ravens were ready to 431 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: sign him last year, but no one from Lamar's camp 432 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: would engage them in real, meaningful negotiations aimed at getting 433 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: a contract done. And if anything, you could argue his 434 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: injuries last year and his overall performance last year may 435 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: have may have damaged his leverage. And now they have 436 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: a guy in Tyler Huntley that he's not Lamar Jackson, 437 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: but he can run the same offense, and dollar for 438 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: dollar for what it would take to keep Huntley around 439 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: versus what it's going to take to make Jackson happy. 440 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: Once they find out what that is, that that's the reality. 441 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: And when Josh Allen did his deal, damn same draft 442 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: class forty three million a year, When I saw the 443 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: details of that deal, because I knew when I saw 444 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: the initial report. Once I see the details, I'm gonna 445 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: know do the Ravens want to do this same deal 446 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: with Jackson or does Jackson want this deal? As soon 447 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: as I read it and understood the details, this is 448 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: a deal Jackson should want. So all he had to 449 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: do was going to Erica, to the GM of the 450 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: team and say, let's take the Josh Allen contract. Let's 451 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: scratch out Buffalo Bills and put in Ravens. Scratch out 452 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, put in Lamar Jackson. Let's just do that. 453 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: That's what they should have done, and it would have 454 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: been in both sides interest because it's awkward for the 455 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Ravens to not have an agent to talk to because 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: when there isn't an agent, you know, sometimes you gotta 457 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: speak some hard truths in the negotiation. They can't do 458 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: that with Lamar Jackson. They risk alienating him if they 459 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: tell him why you know, they don't want to pay 460 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: him fifty million a year. So it's a tough spot 461 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: for everyone. But I feel bad for Jackson because he 462 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: should have his deal by now, and because he's decided 463 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 1: to go without an agent. He doesn't have it. I 464 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: didn't have an agent for a long time. And when 465 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: you sit down with I sat down with Dick Eversaul, 466 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: So here's one of the legendary sports figures in this business. 467 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: And he couldn't do it. He said, I I can't 468 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: have these conversas I'd never done this where I have 469 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: the conversation about a contract with the person, not an agent. 470 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: And he passed it off to, you know, the guy 471 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: underneath him, who had no problem been telling me some 472 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: of my limitations there. But he couldn't do it. He 473 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: just said, no, it's too awkward there. And I just 474 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: remember walking out of his office and my wife said, 475 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: how did it go? I said, he couldn't have a 476 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: conversation with me about it. He had never done something 477 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: like that. The NFL offseason, the overtime rule, the competition committee. 478 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: To me, it feels like this is there's a logical 479 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: endgame here and it's just both teams get a chance 480 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: to have the ball. And maybe it's just in the postseason, 481 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: like I don't know how you modify this, you know, 482 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: how do you tweak it? But it feels like, hey, 483 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: you score a touchdown, we still get a chance, and 484 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: then everybody's going to be happy. Here. Is it as 485 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: simple as that, Mike, It really is. Dan And in 486 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: the days up to the Super Bowl and we had 487 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: the five hour pregame show and I had to go 488 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: shake the trees to try to have something to actually, 489 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: you know, talk about when they put the camera on 490 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: me and said go. One of the things I tried 491 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: to delve into was what's going to happen with postseason overtime? 492 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: And it's as of three weeks ago, it's more of 493 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: a matter of which way is the wind blowing, but 494 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: it was blowing in this direction. Guaranteed possession for each team, 495 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: no gimmicks, nothing different than just playing football, but it 496 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: would be in the postseason only. Now the Cults have 497 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: proposed a change that would apply postseason and regular season. 498 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to touch regular season. They 499 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: don't want to extend the games in the regular season. 500 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I'd be fine with them going back to 501 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: straight sudden death in the regular season just to get 502 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: the game over with and let the teams get ready 503 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: for the next week. And I won't be surprised if 504 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: that happens at some point. But for the postseason, you 505 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: got to guarantee a possession to each team. You can't 506 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: have these results, not with the rules so skewed toward offense. 507 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: The just play defense argument doesn't work in twenty twenty two. 508 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: It may have worked in nineteen eighty two, it doesn't 509 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: work now because the rules are too conducive, and when 510 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: you get to the postseason, you've got the best quarterbacks, 511 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: they're more likely to drive down the length of the 512 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: field and score a touchdown and walk off the winner. 513 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna end up being a guaranteed 514 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: possession and a great strategic decision to be made by 515 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: the team that matches. You're down seven, you score, Do 516 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: you go for two and the win or the loss? 517 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: Or do you go for one and then kick off 518 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: knowing it's now sudden death. He's Mike Florio, Pro Football 519 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Talk Live co host. In his new book is called 520 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Playmakers Guaranteed to Upset Everybody in the NFL, comes out 521 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: March fifteenth, can be purchased online wherever books are sold. 522 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: You had the Sean Payton Tom Brady's story on Pro 523 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: Football Talk, and the Dolphins were interested in coupling these 524 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: two guys. When did this story emerge like how close 525 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: was this to fruition? Well, I first heard about it 526 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: even before Sean Payton resigned from the Saints, and it's 527 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: something that's been lingering and building, and we got to 528 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: a point last week where we thought there was enough 529 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: there to report responsibly, not to be confused with my 530 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: usual irresponsible reports, that the Dolphins were indeed planning to 531 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: make a run at a package deal of Peyton and Brady, 532 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: and the Flores lawsuit killed it. Now. I don't know 533 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: who decided to pull the plug. It's very easy to 534 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: say the Dolphins realized we can't do this. Now, we 535 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: can't do this this, you know, wink nods set everything 536 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: up ahead of time, Get Sean Payton, get Tom Brady. 537 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: We can't do that. Given the content and the allegations 538 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: and the gravity the Brian Flores lawsuit. It's also possible 539 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: the league said you can't do that. And you know, 540 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I've kind of heard rumors along those lines, but can't 541 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: substantiate that the league intervened and said to the Dolphins, 542 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: you can't do it. And Dan. One thing that fascinates me, 543 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to find out the answer to this question, 544 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: how much of the Brian Flores lawsuit, for example, the 545 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: allegation in there that he was pressured by Stephen Ross, 546 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: the owner of the team, to meet with a prominent 547 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in violation of the rules, and everybody knows it 548 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady back in twenty twenty. How much of 549 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the lawsuit was aimed at putting the kai bosh on 550 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: the Peyton Brady coupling in Miami. If Flores knew it 551 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: was coming, if he'd caught wind of it, did his 552 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: lawsuit in part? Was it written in part, drafted in 553 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: part timed in part to keep the Dolphins from doing it. 554 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: That's something I'm trying to find out. But that's fascinating. 555 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: If Flores just decided, you know what, screw these guys. 556 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: They violated my rights. They fired me when I should 557 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: have continued to be there. They tried to get me 558 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: to do things that they shouldn't have expected me to do, 559 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: and they got mad at me because of it. They 560 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: got this grand plan for twenty twenty two. This lawsuits 561 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: going to keep that plan from coming to Fruition'd be 562 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: fascinating if that was part of why Flores said what 563 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: he said and did what he did. When he did it. 564 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: You're going Oliver Stone there on me. Listen, there's all, Hey, 565 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: we know this league well enough to know there's always 566 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: something going on behind the curtain. That's why we love it. 567 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: But you've been on this story before anybody, and that 568 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady to the forty nine ers. And it 569 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: feels like it's been at least a year, maybe a 570 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: couple of years where you've toyed with it or thrown 571 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: it out there or rumor innuendo. Can you still see 572 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: Tom Brady playing again? And if so, is it for 573 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers? Oh? Absolutely? And I gotta get 574 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Sim's credit. He's the one that first brought that to 575 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: fruition a couple of years ago, that Brady wanted to 576 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: play for the forty nine ers when he was a 577 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: free agent after leaving a Patriots or while he was 578 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: in the process of doing so. In the forty nine 579 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: ers said no, thank you, okay, good luck, good luck 580 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. And I think the forty nine ers 581 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: would admit that they probably have a Super Bowl trophy 582 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: or two if they had gone with Tom Brady instead 583 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: of Jimmy g But I think that Tom Brady, especially 584 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: after this Sean Payton, Miami Dolphins, Tom Brady thing. I 585 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: don't think he's retired Dan. I think he's retired from 586 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. That's what I think the retirement was. I 587 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: think he's trying to find a graceful exit from Tampa Bay. 588 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: He got a Super Bowl win last year, they took 589 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: a step back, and now I think he is eyeing 590 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: a place where he walks through the door with the 591 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: deck stacked in his favor. And what place other than 592 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco give Trey Lance another season to sit. You 593 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: walk into a team that's super Bowl ready, that is 594 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: dangerous defensively, that has great weapons. Offensively, you got a 595 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: quarterback who can make big throws in big spots. The 596 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: forty nine has become a shortlist super Bowl favorite if 597 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady ends up there. The question is how much 598 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: of a fight will the Buccaneers put up if he 599 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: decides in junior July that he wants to leave. And 600 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: I would say they owe it to him to give 601 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: him what he wants. He brought a Super Bowl trophy 602 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: to a team that had no business being in the 603 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and he filled the stadium last year. I 604 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: think they should work with him and give him what 605 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: he wants, if that's what he wants to do. But 606 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. I just think he's trying 607 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: to find a way out of Tampa. Are you willing 608 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: to bet on that? How much like a pie to 609 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: the face? Oh, a pine of the face? I mean 610 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: pine of the face is nothing. It depends. I mean 611 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: unless it's like, you know, an acid pie. No, no, no, 612 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: pie of your choice. Anybody want to take Florio up 613 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: on a pie to the face Polly? Polly will say 614 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: that Brady does not not come back. Just the Niners. 615 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: We're talking right, Just the Niners. I'll do it. Okay, 616 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: So pie to the face Florio? Wait week one, Niners. 617 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: If he's on the Niners, who takes a pie to 618 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: the face? Polly does? Polly does? And if he's not 619 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: on the Niners and I take the pie of it? Yes, okay, 620 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: you come on the show and maybe your wife can 621 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: administer or Chris Sims could administer a pie to the face. Yeah, 622 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: it may have to be a virtual parte of the face. 623 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you my wife would very much enjoy 624 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the assignment. Yes, he's slamming a pine to my face. Yes, 625 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Week one is a very important part 626 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: of this bet Why because couldn't you see town Brady 627 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: maybe like somewhere later in the season joining I you know, 628 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: nothing Brady does is you know, by accident. Like everything 629 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: is structured, everything is planned out. I don't think he's 630 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna go you know, maybe I'll join them week six. 631 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: I think if he's planning, then he's planning now and 632 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: he would be there. He would want to be there 633 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: Week one. Last thing you want to do is all 634 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Trey Lanz plays well and then you 635 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: get Brady and you're like, why do we get Brady? 636 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lanz is here, pie to the face. I like that. 637 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: Oh I gotta ask you because everybody has breathlessly been 638 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: talking about this that Aaron Rodgers wasn't in the London 639 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: promo for the Packers in the abbey Road picture. There. 640 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: Where do you stand on this, Mike? I think if 641 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: you take the original twelve inch vinyl Abbey Road and 642 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: put it on track three of side one and run 643 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: it backwards, it says Aaron Rodgers is staying in Green Bay. 644 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: They had no idea how prescient they were. Oh my god, 645 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: we got to be finding out here soon doesn't feel 646 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: like today with McAfee, he announces what he can stay. 647 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: I think, look, when the news comes out that they're 648 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: working on a contract, why are you working on a 649 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: contract if you're not staying? And it's smart for him 650 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: to work out the contract before he gives him an answer, 651 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: because he's got leverage. If he says I'm coming back now, 652 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: let's work out a contract, they've there's no leverage left 653 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: to be had, and it's like, you know they this 654 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: report that he's once fifty million dollars a year to 655 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: me is not surprising like you've talked about. If I'm 656 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: the Packers, I just say, I'm going to call your bluff. 657 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: Here's two years, one hundred million dollars guarantee. That's it 658 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 1: ball game. And there's no owner in Green Bay that's 659 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: siphoning off millions to go buy a super yacht. They 660 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: can invest every penny they make back in the team. 661 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: And they've raised like seventy million through their non stock 662 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: stock sale. They can do this easily. I think he's 663 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 1: going to stay Dan. Where else is he going to 664 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: go and have a team around him like what he 665 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: has in Green Bay? He's not gonna walk in somewhere 666 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: else and be a Super Bowl winner. His best chance 667 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: is to stay in a division where the Bears have 668 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a new GM and coach. The Vikings have a new 669 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: GM and coach. The Lions are in year two of 670 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: their latest reboot. The schedule is favorable this year. They 671 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: could be the number one seed again. The question is 672 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: can they finish the job and get to the Super Bowl. 673 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you is always, and good luck 674 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: with the book. Thanks Dan. That's Mike Florio Pro Football 675 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: Talk and the book is called Playmakers. It sounds March fifteenth. 676 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: I got an autograph copy. I didn't know he autographed 677 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: it until I had Paulie look at it. That was 678 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: kind of awkward. It's like, Florio, you sent me a book, 679 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: you did an autograph because I did. Oops. I had 680 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: to go back and yeah he did. All right, we'll 681 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: come back play the day after this. Thanks for listening 682 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 683 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 684 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 685 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 686 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Hey I'm Doug Gotlieb. 687 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: The podcast is called All Ball. 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John Morant is 715 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: at an absolutely another level. A baseball pass caught in midair, 716 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: predirected to the basket from twenty feet out. Oh my goodness, 717 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: what are we witnessing? So that is a full court 718 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: pass by Steven Adams to John Morant with four tenths 719 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: of a second left in the first half. He catches 720 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: it and shoots it from about fifteen feet and makes it. 721 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: It was it was John Morant night last night. Yes, 722 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: there's this fun moment too where you could see it. 723 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: Adams is taking the ball out, He's looking down court 724 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: and when you can see John Morant, he's pointing up 725 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: like throw it up. Oh my god, it's you know 726 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go out of your way to 727 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: find him with Memphis that they're not usually going to 728 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: be musty TV, but they're number three seed and he's 729 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 1: mussy TV. Paulie. We asked the question two years ago 730 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: this week that if you could have Zion Williams that 731 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: or Jahn Morant, who would you take long term? And 732 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: one of the reasons we did the poll question that 733 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: they had checked my notes is that Zion was having 734 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: knee trouble and they were sitting him down for a 735 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: while when there was concern around his knee, and so 736 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: he was playing well but not playing a lot. Eighty 737 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: two percent still would have redrafted taken Zion Williamson two 738 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: years ago this week. Yeah, I think I was in 739 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: the Jah Morant camp. I think Zion because of name recognition, 740 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: but John Morand. But John Morant goes to the hoop 741 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: like there's there's a Derek Rose feel to him that 742 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: he is attacking. But he's a good shooter, and I 743 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody who's scored more two point baskets 744 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: this year than John Morant, and he's becoming a better 745 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: outside shooter. I think it's thirty four percent from three 746 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: point range. That's respectable because if you give me that 747 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: dimension and you attacks like the Greek freak. If the 748 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: Greek freak is able to get thirty four percent of 749 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: his three point shots, then it's over. Like nobody can 750 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: guard him if you have that added element there. But 751 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: John Morant what he does at age twenty two, twenty seven, 752 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: six and six, you know this is a guy who 753 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: could lead the league in scoring, and you know that's 754 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: a that's a walking highlight. His fifty two points broke 755 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: the franchise record, which he's set. John Moran owns four 756 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: of the team's top six scoring performances. Three of them 757 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: have come in the past two weeks. There, all right, 758 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls in here. By the way, 759 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: this isn't a leap year, is it, Polly? This is 760 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: not we thought it was Todd. Todd put out February 761 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: twenty nine. I did. When I set out the guest list, 762 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: I put two twenty nine three one in court. Major confusion. Okay, 763 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: but this isn't a leap year. By the way, when 764 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: when you celebrate your birthday in a leap year, you 765 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: celebrate it the twenty eighth or March first. When it's 766 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: not a leap year. How does that work the other 767 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: three years? Yes, Todd, I would think you would celebrate 768 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: it after the fact, like you know, like midnight the 769 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: next day, because you know, anything could happen to you 770 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: to give it more. But I guess it's kind of 771 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: a you know, a morbid way of looking at it, 772 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 1: but like you know, live for that, you know, next day, 773 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: which would have normally been February twenty ninth. And then wait, 774 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: I just asked when you celebrate, not that you might die, 775 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: so you shouldn't celebrate your brother of the day before 776 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: your birthday and say wait till it's your Actually, then 777 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: I do it on the twenty eighth in case I die. 778 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: You could look at it that, but I think on 779 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: to your fever officially locked into that, you've established yourself 780 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,760 Speaker 1: as that new age on midnight March. Yes, Polly, nothing 781 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: is more annoying than people whose birthday is on leap 782 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 1: here February twenty ninth. They think it's very much more 783 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: special than it is. They say, oh, I've only had 784 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: seven birthdays and I'm whatever age I am. I can't 785 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: do the math, but you know that's I had a 786 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: kid grown up. I think I mentioned it at all 787 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: she would talk about, is it's not really my birthday? 788 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: And oh that's that's the thing. Who's the most famous 789 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: leap here baby, Dan? That's a great question because I 790 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: have absolutely no idea who this person is. Okay, it's 791 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: someone named According to this famous birthdays dot com always reputable, 792 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: the number one most famous person born on February twenty 793 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: ninth is a TikTok star named Nicholas Ray. Do you 794 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: want to guess who number two is? Though Yaka Podal 795 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: no close? Ja Morant? Excuse me, jah Rule? Would you 796 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: rather be jah Rule or jahn Morant? Full questions? We'll 797 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: check in with the Lakers coming up one hour in 798 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: the books. Two more to go on this Tuesday, Dan 799 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: Patrick's show. 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