Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Ridiculous Romance, or in this
Speaker 1: week it's Recrupulous Romance, our special Halloween series. If you're
Speaker 1: just listening to the show for the first time this week, welcome,
Speaker 1: We're so glad to have you. Uh this is a
Speaker 1: special spooky series we do. Or we can take all
Speaker 1: our creepy episodes, Ghosts and Googles and a couple of
Speaker 1: just scary murders, you know, just the season. Yes, Halloween,
Speaker 1: and the theme song is obviously a self parody our
Speaker 1: usual theme song. If someone's listening to and going the
Speaker 1: hell is this show up? Hell? Who do these people
Speaker 1: think they are? Why are they telling me to go
Speaker 1: to hell? I'm excited. I love the end of October,
Speaker 1: of all of October really honestly, just love the falls.
Speaker 1: My time. It's my time. I don't think I have
Speaker 1: a time. All times are uncomfortable for me. I'm either
Speaker 1: called or hot. Either way, I'm a bit fair. You're
Speaker 1: not well. You like the mid range stuff like a
Speaker 1: nice seventy four degrees and sunny like you're unusual. You're
Speaker 1: like a temperate climics not too hot, not too oh
Speaker 1: he needs to light jacket. Um we are getting in
Speaker 1: the mood around here. We watched Werewolf by Night the
Speaker 1: other night. The Marvel Werewolf thing on Disney is great.
Speaker 1: I loved it. It didn't kind of make me want
Speaker 1: to watch like a B movie from the sixties or seventies.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you to call Barbara Banks. She loves him.
Speaker 1: She's always on Shutter and Slither and always watching those
Speaker 1: creature feature recommendation. That's true, she loves him. Don't go
Speaker 1: far from Barbara. She's seen them all. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what movie it was. We were talking about the other day,
Speaker 1: some horror movie and I said I heard it's really bad,
Speaker 1: and she was like, well, that sounds right up my alley.
Speaker 1: Then now I'm more interest. Definitely, I love it. But
Speaker 1: where Wolf by Night. I might watch that every year Halloween. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like perfect. And how about the Gore? How
Speaker 1: about Disney plus saying, you know what, we gotta get
Speaker 1: ready for Deadpool, Let's just go for it, let's slash
Speaker 1: some throats. Yeah. But what I loved about it was
Speaker 1: the B movie gory nous of it, like so over
Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, you know, we're getting in the mood
Speaker 1: for the season. We watched Where Wolf by night we
Speaker 1: watched Hube Halloween and anyway, so today's episode we're going
Speaker 1: to get into it. No thoughts on Hube Halloween, moving on,
Speaker 1: moving on, We've got a story to get to, that's true, though,
Speaker 1: super excited for today's another spooky story. Creepy, creepiness. I
Speaker 1: don't know what else to say, creepiness. Let's just give
Speaker 1: it to you. Peter Rheinbart was married, but his Melika Fernandez,
Speaker 1: had disappeared without a trace. Police were suspicious, but even
Speaker 1: though they dug through Peter's backyard garden, they didn't find
Speaker 1: any evidence that Peter had done anything to Melika, so
Speaker 1: Peter could breathe a sigh of relief until one day
Speaker 1: workers unearthed a human skull in the Pete bog Nearest
Speaker 1: house school. The game was up for Peter, but the
Speaker 1: real twist in the story was yet to come. Let's
Speaker 1: hear all about Peter Rheinbart, Melika Fernandez and bog Body,
Speaker 1: Bog bodies. Let's go, hated friends. Let Fandez. You're welcome
Speaker 1: to hell. There's no match making a romantic teas he's
Speaker 1: judged as you were lying in crypt. I love him,
Speaker 1: my being type of unco demonic do. But if there's
Speaker 1: worth a second Chits show a production of I Heard Radio.
Speaker 1: Peter Rheinbart was an airline employee in nineteen fifty nine
Speaker 1: when he met a portrait artist and travel enthusiast named
Speaker 1: Melika Fernandez. Awesome, please introduce me to a portrait artists
Speaker 1: travel enthusiasts. Well, no, you're not a portrait artist. I
Speaker 1: was about to say, you don't take any pictures, you
Speaker 1: don't do any paintings. I'm not an artist. Well you
Speaker 1: could say I draw portraits of people in these podcasts.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, podcast artists. Yeah, you do your own version
Speaker 1: of a portrait. Yeah, a verbal portrait painting a picture
Speaker 1: with words, Yeah, yeah, a picture. It's worth a thousand words.
Speaker 1: And you pumped about two thousand words into this. So
Speaker 1: this is this is two pictures worth the story everybody.
Speaker 1: So yeah. Pianot met Milika and they'd only known each
Speaker 1: other for two two hours when Peter proposed marriage, Malika accepted,
Speaker 1: and only four days later they were married. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, things weren't that bad back then. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was like a whirruined romance and they were both swept
Speaker 1: off their feet. I want to say their dating history
Speaker 1: must have been really miserable. Two hours. What kind of
Speaker 1: interview is conducted before you propose? In two hours? Do
Speaker 1: you have to be? Like? What kind of politics do
Speaker 1: you have? How do you feel about raising children? What
Speaker 1: your money situation got? Any death? Ultimate speed date for real?
Speaker 1: But as quickly as they got married, their marriage started
Speaker 1: kind of founder within a few months. It's not a flounder, No, well,
Speaker 1: it could be. I guess founder. Founder means to crumble.
Speaker 1: I think, all right, flounder is founders of fish. I
Speaker 1: think he's a flounder is a fish. But floundering, Uh
Speaker 1: to struggle or stagger helplessly or clumsily in water or
Speaker 1: mud like a bog, And foundering is to fill with
Speaker 1: water and sink of a ship typically All right, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so either way they were stumbling or sinking. Either way,
Speaker 1: things weren't working out. And you all got a vocabulary
Speaker 1: lesson today, so did I? Right? So yeah, things were
Speaker 1: shaky between the two and they kind of were living
Speaker 1: a little bit separately. So Malika would travel alone, she
Speaker 1: would use Peter's airline discounts, and Peter would stay home
Speaker 1: at his cottage in Cheshire, England and they went on
Speaker 1: like that for two years, which, honestly it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: so bad. I got an airline discount and go wherever
Speaker 1: I want, all right, And he clearly was like, cool,
Speaker 1: I like to be in my cottage. Everything's great. I know.
Speaker 1: I literally know married couples like at or one of
Speaker 1: them is a flight attendant, and they're perfectly happy to
Speaker 1: just not see each other very often. I know, well,
Speaker 1: you and I have I guess, an unusual marriage in
Speaker 1: that way that we're enjoy spending time together, that we're
Speaker 1: constantly together. I know a lot of people could probably
Speaker 1: not handle that. Yeah, and sometimes I dream of what
Speaker 1: it would be like to have some time to yourself.
Speaker 1: How dare you? I'm delightful at all times. Every second
Speaker 1: with me is a gift. What's so funny? Oh? Nothing,
Speaker 1: just your delivery, I guess, not the content hilarious at
Speaker 1: all times. Well, Malika didn't have an Eli, she had
Speaker 1: a Peter, so she was off traveling. He would hang
Speaker 1: out at home chilling, and that was how they went
Speaker 1: on for two years until Molika mysteriously disappeared. Well police
Speaker 1: were suspicious, obviously, serious disappearances are kind of their things.
Speaker 1: There was no trace of Malika anywhere, and none of
Speaker 1: her family or friends had heard from her. I mean,
Speaker 1: if she had decided to leave her husband, like, surely
Speaker 1: she would have told someone, right, or maybe gone somewhere
Speaker 1: through a friend's house, a relative or something. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: their first suspect, boom, Peter, knock, knock knock. Hey buddy,
Speaker 1: your wife mysteriously disappeared. Uh, it's probably you. Because over
Speaker 1: half of murdered women in America and the UK are
Speaker 1: killed by their husbands or boyfriends. So you know, you
Speaker 1: got good odds. But even though they searched his house
Speaker 1: and his yard, they even dug up his garden to
Speaker 1: try and search for remains, they didn't find any evidence
Speaker 1: that Peter had done anything wrong or that Malika had
Speaker 1: even been killed. So finally they were forced to give up.
Speaker 1: I mean, without a body, they had nothing to prove.
Speaker 1: So Peter just kind of chilled out. He was like,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, the heats off, I can go
Speaker 1: back to in my chair, not doing anything. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: Peter lived only three hundred yards away from a fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred acre Pete bog known as Lindo Moss, according to
Speaker 1: Science History dot org this bog was formed when I
Speaker 1: smelted eleven thousand years ago um and for generations, poor
Speaker 1: folks in this area supported themselves with pete, which brings
Speaker 1: us to our new segment. It's time for a speed
Speaker 1: date with science searching for connection now. Pete is extremely
Speaker 1: useful in a number of ways. Environmentally, it helps with
Speaker 1: water management and it acts as a carbon store. In fact,
Speaker 1: burning pete is being banned in England right now because
Speaker 1: it releases more carbon dioxide than burning cold. But for
Speaker 1: a very long time, pete was used as a fuel
Speaker 1: for stoves and as soil for crops. So workers in
Speaker 1: this area they would cut blocks of pete by hand,
Speaker 1: end out of the bog. They'd lay them in the
Speaker 1: sun and turn them regularly for two years to dry
Speaker 1: them out like a dirt rotisserie, and then they'd sell it.
Speaker 1: So literally dirt, farmers, literally dirt. I'm going out cutting
Speaker 1: out bricks of grassy sod, pretty much, lay it out
Speaker 1: in the sun and every day. Or did you turn
Speaker 1: the peak today? I turned it yet? All right, I'll
Speaker 1: go out and turn it. No, No, you turn the
Speaker 1: peak yesterday, I'll get it. I'll get it today. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is the origin of Pete and Pete, Peter and Pete.
Speaker 1: I wish I had something, I got nothing. I had
Speaker 1: a wall on that one. I got no reaction. Sometimes
Speaker 1: they fall flat, That's all I know. Alright. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we had our poor peasants doing all this by hand
Speaker 1: for a very very long time. But finally in the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties the process was mechanic, so digging machines would
Speaker 1: scoop the peat out of the ground. It lays in
Speaker 1: the sun in a loose pile to dry out, and
Speaker 1: then it's ground up for compost and s. Science History
Speaker 1: says quote sold to mushroom growers around the country. But
Speaker 1: first workers do have to check the raw peat to
Speaker 1: make sure that there aren't chunks of bark or branches
Speaker 1: in there that might, you know, clog up the grinder. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yes, robots took their jobs, but robots can't take
Speaker 1: every job. You still need human hands. At some point
Speaker 1: you have to supervise the robots being once again automation
Speaker 1: coming in and destroying another career, the dirt farm. You know. See,
Speaker 1: this is what we're letting happen. Every time we let
Speaker 1: the cars drive us around, someone could be cutting that
Speaker 1: dirt out by hands. Think about that, you know, someone
Speaker 1: said back then they were like, oh, you know, sure,
Speaker 1: it's just dirt farmers today, But one day even painters
Speaker 1: their jobs will be taken by some sort of artificial intelligence.
Speaker 1: That guy knew he was ahead of his time. So
Speaker 1: on Maree, when two workers named Andy Mold and Stephen
Speaker 1: Dooley were standing by the Pete Mills conveyor belt and
Speaker 1: noticed a big chunk of something in the peat, they
Speaker 1: did their job and they pulled it out. Now, Andy
Speaker 1: thought that it looked like maybe a small black leather
Speaker 1: soccer ball or something like that, or of course in
Speaker 1: England they would have said a football or football. So
Speaker 1: they showed this lump their manager and they're joking around like,
Speaker 1: oh wonder, what what whoa do I find a donosaur
Speaker 1: rag or something like that, And so they wanted to
Speaker 1: figure out what it really was, so they washed it off,
Speaker 1: but instead of an egg, they realized what they were
Speaker 1: holding was a human skull. Its jaw was gone, but
Speaker 1: it still had some skin, and it had hair as well,
Speaker 1: and one eyeball still intact, staring back at them unseen.
Speaker 1: This was no joke. They took the skull straight to
Speaker 1: the police and will uncover this mystery. Right after this
Speaker 1: commercial break, Welcome back to the show everyone. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they found a skull in the pea. It's so creepy.
Speaker 1: So they took it to the police. And even though
Speaker 1: it had been over twenty years at this point since
Speaker 1: Melika Fernandez went missing, the police were still keeping an
Speaker 1: eye on old Peter Rheinbart. They wanted to close this
Speaker 1: cold case for good. And when forensics reported that the
Speaker 1: skull belonged to a woman between thirty and fifty years old,
Speaker 1: they figured they'd pinned it. I mean, they had everything
Speaker 1: they needed right, So they went straight down to his house,
Speaker 1: knocked down his door and said, oh hello, Peter, smy
Speaker 1: either constable again and listen, we just found the skull
Speaker 1: of a woman basically in your backyard. Is there anything
Speaker 1: you'd like to share with the class. He's like he's
Speaker 1: got in his hand and he's like, alas your poor wife,
Speaker 1: I knew who well, Peter. He's like I've been I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get ahead of this case for a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, this this cops should really go on
Speaker 1: his stand up tour in the Edinburgh Festival only well,
Speaker 1: Peter took one look at this constable holding the skull
Speaker 1: of an old dead woman. I assume he didn't actually
Speaker 1: have it with him, but and Peter just broke down.
Speaker 1: He told the police everything, you just spilled the whole
Speaker 1: beans for breakfast right there. He said. After they married,
Speaker 1: Malika would go on all these trips and she left
Speaker 1: Peter to stay behind happily with his lover a man.
Speaker 1: Shocking development. So it sounds like maybe he proposed a
Speaker 1: fake marriage to Malika. That's why everything went so quickly.
Speaker 1: Like they would both have all the freedoms they wouldn't
Speaker 1: otherwise have, Like she could be married to this dude,
Speaker 1: you know, and everybody stopped harassing her about getting married.
Speaker 1: She could just go travel. I've got a husband, and
Speaker 1: he could have his partner that he loved, and people
Speaker 1: not harassing him about when are you marrying some lady
Speaker 1: and having babies and all that stuff? Right like a beard, right,
Speaker 1: she was his beard, I guess very House of the
Speaker 1: Dragon and dying as we see. Yes, perhaps it's speculation
Speaker 1: station this was the foundation of their marriage. It all
Speaker 1: seemed good enough for Malika anyway. At the time. What
Speaker 1: Peter says sometime in nineteen sixty one, she came home
Speaker 1: from one of her trips and she started demanding money
Speaker 1: from him. She told him that if he didn't pay,
Speaker 1: she would tell everyone that he was gay. Now we
Speaker 1: know from past episodes that homosexuality was illegal in England
Speaker 1: at this time, so really Peter had some pretty high
Speaker 1: stakes in keeping his sexuality a secret. He could be
Speaker 1: imprisoned for living with a man. That that's the worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, but at best his life and career would
Speaker 1: be destroyed. So find it very hard to live in
Speaker 1: Cheshire if she was too loud about it. So Peter
Speaker 1: told the cops. Look, I didn't have any money. I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to give her, and she just kept
Speaker 1: threatening me, and he said, quote, something just boiled over
Speaker 1: inside of me. He grabbed her shoulders and started shaking her.
Speaker 1: He told the cops. He didn't even realize that he
Speaker 1: had killed her until he stopped shaking and she dropped
Speaker 1: to the ground. He had strangled her to death. Damn,
Speaker 1: he like blacked out, he told the police. Quote, I
Speaker 1: was terrified. He could not think clearly. The only thing
Speaker 1: that came to mind was to hide her. So like
Speaker 1: you do, he got an ax and dismembered her. Come on, Peter,
Speaker 1: he chopped off her head and her limbs. United Press
Speaker 1: International article says he told the police that dismembering her
Speaker 1: was quote a terrible mess. I was covered in blood,
Speaker 1: blindy who gonna thought? Oh, Peter, what did you think?
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a terrible mess? And then he tried
Speaker 1: burning her body you know, no trace, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But it requires extreme heat and several hours
Speaker 1: for a human body to burn to ash CREMATORI ums
Speaker 1: burn remains for over two hours in ovens that reached
Speaker 1: six to eight teen hundred degrees fahrenheit. Right, And even then,
Speaker 1: bones don't burn. They have to be ground down into
Speaker 1: a powder. Right. They usually get a giant to come
Speaker 1: in and grind those bones to make their bread. Yeah. Classic,
Speaker 1: It's very interesting to learn this, and it does seem
Speaker 1: kind of obvious once you do, because like the human body,
Speaker 1: for example, is very wet, so you couldn't just light
Speaker 1: a match and watch it. I mean like I've had
Speaker 1: a pie in the oven too long, uh, and you
Speaker 1: know it's not going to catch fire. Even if it does,
Speaker 1: you're gonna left be left with a big charred pie.
Speaker 1: It's not going to disappear and nothing. So I don't
Speaker 1: know why someone would think that just a little campfire
Speaker 1: is gonna I guess yeah. I'm sure he watched a
Speaker 1: lot of movies out here in the bog. It's well,
Speaker 1: your mom's gonna be like, actually, there's a great movie
Speaker 1: from He's just like, that's what you do, fire corpse.
Speaker 1: He was probably just like, I don't know, it's the
Speaker 1: only way when when you want to burn, when you
Speaker 1: get rid of some evidence, you go into a He
Speaker 1: had definitely not yet seen breaking bad, so he hadn't
Speaker 1: quite learned the proper way to dispose or snatch where
Speaker 1: they fed him too pigs. Oh, he should have just
Speaker 1: fed him to some pigs. There's gotta be pigs around
Speaker 1: in Cheshire somewhere. Surely if you live in Cheshire, let
Speaker 1: us know if there's a lot of pigs around that
Speaker 1: He couldn't human flesh hungry pigs. No, anyway, So it's
Speaker 1: really not a surprise that Peter discovered that burning was
Speaker 1: not going to work nearly as fast or as neatly
Speaker 1: as he was hoping. So you know, he's probably in
Speaker 1: a panic at this point. He's like I've got all
Speaker 1: these body parts scattered around to floodle over me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how us suspicious? Covered in blood? And I've got charred
Speaker 1: human chunks all over my house. This story makes it
Speaker 1: more obvious why the police were a little suspicious, because
Speaker 1: surely somebody was looking at Peter, like, what's he doing today?
Speaker 1: Why does it smell like a barbecue? No. Instead, Peter
Speaker 1: realized that he had a convenient bog nearby, so he
Speaker 1: scattered her remains in there, and he kind of hoped
Speaker 1: that they would break down and just become a part
Speaker 1: of the soil and no harm, no foul, except for
Speaker 1: you know, Molika. But Peter was dead wrong. Science history
Speaker 1: explains that if a body is thrown into a bog
Speaker 1: when it's thirty nine degrees are colder, and if the
Speaker 1: bog maintains a regular temperature lower than fifty degrees and
Speaker 1: stays wet all year, it can actually preserve bodies better
Speaker 1: than ancient mummies. In Egypt, they write, quote Sphagnum mosses
Speaker 1: changed the chemistry of the bodies of water around them,
Speaker 1: making them highly acidic for a natural environment and very
Speaker 1: low it dissolved materials as the floating mosses die, they
Speaker 1: build up layers at the bottom of the bog. The
Speaker 1: decaying mosses release sugars and humic acids into the water,
Speaker 1: which consume oxygen as they break down. With the surface
Speaker 1: blocked by the live moss, the water becomes anaerobic or
Speaker 1: oxygen free. Under these conditions, human tissues don't decay. Instead,
Speaker 1: they tan like leather, skin turns brown, hair turns red,
Speaker 1: and objects in or around the body dissolve away, as
Speaker 1: does most clothing. Oh I f L science dot com
Speaker 1: rights quote. Fall into one of these and when you
Speaker 1: get discovered centuries later, you very well could look like
Speaker 1: somebody who fell in yesterday while playing dress up as
Speaker 1: a murdered four hundred BC peasant. So there's no way
Speaker 1: Malika could have decomposed as completely as Peter was hoping. Right. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: right because we found some evidence now putting away of murderers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like falling into a cryogenic tube
Speaker 1: and dying there. How weird I know, I'll i'll dissolver
Speaker 1: and from malde hyde. Peter needed a speed date with science. Now.
Speaker 1: As far as the lead policeman, Detective Inspector George Abbott,
Speaker 1: was concerned the case was closed and the head's the
Speaker 1: right age, Peter confessed, no big deal, We're done here exactly. So,
Speaker 1: as Peter awaited his trial, Detective Abbott oversaw a crew
Speaker 1: who searched the bog carefully for the rest of Malika's remains,
Speaker 1: but they never found anything else. Just this head. Now
Speaker 1: that struck Detective Abbott is being kind of weird, like
Speaker 1: where's the rest of Malika? So ever curious, he sent
Speaker 1: the head to Oxford University and asked them to take
Speaker 1: a look at it. Maybe they'd be able to answer
Speaker 1: more questions than the police forensics team had been able to,
Speaker 1: which I love the idea of being a professor at
Speaker 1: Oxford just being like, oh, package, I wonder it's in
Speaker 1: here to we just randomly get sent body parts by strangers.
Speaker 1: But the main thing for Detective Abbot was they got
Speaker 1: the murderer, you know, so we're good to go. Peter's
Speaker 1: trial began in December n The cops wanted a life sentence.
Speaker 1: Peter was hoping to get his charges downgraded from murder
Speaker 1: to manslaughter coup. He was like, I was being blackmailed
Speaker 1: and felt threatened and so on. But one piece of
Speaker 1: testimony through the entire courtroom into an uproar, and we'll
Speaker 1: find out what that is. Right after this spooky word
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Speaker 1: A professor from Oxford University's archaeology department had examined Malika's
Speaker 1: head as requested by Detective Abbott. According to him, the
Speaker 1: radio carbon dating demonstrated that there was no way in
Speaker 1: hell that this skull belonged to Malika Fernandez. Why well,
Speaker 1: because the skull belonged to someone who died over sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred years ago in the year four ten. Ship people
Speaker 1: were gosh swoggled, especially Peter, who basically had the worst
Speaker 1: face palm of all time, right damn it? I mean
Speaker 1: he immediately tried to recant his confession. WHOA wait, did
Speaker 1: I say murdered my wife? Because I meant I murdered Uh,
Speaker 1: the joke that I told her very funny really slayed.
Speaker 1: I burned that joke up and drowned it in a
Speaker 1: bog and I dismembered it. But as I F L.
Speaker 1: Science writes, quote, it was a bit late for take
Speaker 1: sea back seas. I think that's a legal term. In
Speaker 1: the Three Nighted Press International article. The prosecutor, Martin Thomas
Speaker 1: told the jury quote, the skull has been preserved in
Speaker 1: the peat bog for over sixteen centuries and obviously has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Melika Reinbart. But the supreme irony
Speaker 1: is this. Its discovery led directly to the arrest of
Speaker 1: the defendant and to his detailed confessional. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 1: how much is Peter kicking himself for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life? Probably interviously never talked to the police. The
Speaker 1: jury deliberated for three hours before finding Peter Reinbart guilty
Speaker 1: of murder, and he spent the rest of his life
Speaker 1: in prison. But the story does not end there. Remember
Speaker 1: Andy Mold, the guy at the Peak factory who discovered
Speaker 1: that small leather soccer ball that kicked us all off.
Speaker 1: He found yet another grizzly discovery at work following year
Speaker 1: in he plucked what looked like a piece of wood
Speaker 1: out of the peat and in an interview with the
Speaker 1: Manchester Museum in two thousand eight, he said, quote, we
Speaker 1: gave it a little clean, then we saw the toenail. Surprised.
Speaker 1: Tone nails are just gross. I'm not like to be surprised.
Speaker 1: You're not expecting a toenail, and you get a toenail,
Speaker 1: it's always bad news. I don't care what situation you're in.
Speaker 1: There's never a point in your life where you say, oh,
Speaker 1: good a tonail. I expect it, but I'm glad I
Speaker 1: found it. I'm saving this for later. Now. The police
Speaker 1: as well as the local archaeologist, Rick Turner, were immediately notified.
Speaker 1: Now everybody thought that this had to be a piece
Speaker 1: of Melika Fernandez, right because they've been looking for the
Speaker 1: rest of her limbs for serious But not only was
Speaker 1: it not her, it did not belong to the person
Speaker 1: whose skull they found either. What this was a completely
Speaker 1: different guy who had died between two BC and one
Speaker 1: nineteen CE. Oh my God, now known as Lindo Man,
Speaker 1: and scholars are still heatedly debating whether or not Lindo
Speaker 1: Man was murdered, died naturally or was a ritual sacrifice. Okay,
Speaker 1: so malikam other lady, Ye, the head they found some
Speaker 1: and now Lindo Man, how many bodies are they going
Speaker 1: to dig out of this bog? I mean, it's kind
Speaker 1: of sounding like Lake Mead in Vegas, and they're like,
Speaker 1: now that the water is going down, we're finding lots
Speaker 1: of mafia kills, mob bodies, bog bodies and mob bodies. Jeez,
Speaker 1: that's there. This bog's just this bog is actually we
Speaker 1: discovered seventy six human remains. We thought it was dirt
Speaker 1: this whole time turns out to be well preserved two
Speaker 1: thousand year old feet just all over this bog. That's
Speaker 1: crazy nuts nuts, um. I don't know. Part of me
Speaker 1: is like bury me in a bug. I guess that
Speaker 1: the you know, one day they can just reanimate me.
Speaker 1: Weekend it Bernie's your bog body. No, don't weekend it,
Speaker 1: Bernie's it, actually reanimate me. I don't want to be sorry.
Speaker 1: I want to be puppeted around. You want to actually okay,
Speaker 1: I wanted to take the little rey gun that will
Speaker 1: invent in the future that brings well preserved bodies back
Speaker 1: to life, the same one they're going to use for
Speaker 1: like Walt Disney and all of them, of course. And
Speaker 1: you know, now here's my question. In this scenario, your
Speaker 1: body has degraded significantly. Does this regun restore you regun
Speaker 1: brings you back to my my most youthful, hottest age. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever that might be. YEA, let's say some of us
Speaker 1: are hotter later in life. Do you know what I mean? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you would if you could, you would go back
Speaker 1: to your twenty two year old look. H yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: we're like nine. Nine, I was a cute kid. Wow.
Speaker 1: I hope people were not going up to your nine
Speaker 1: year old being like, wow, you're a real hottie. I
Speaker 1: was a hot kid. I said, I was a cute kid.
Speaker 1: I said, was your hottest look? And you said nine.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking to myself, at my most confident, when
Speaker 1: I was nine, probably nine, I really felt I was
Speaker 1: the world in my hands. What happened? People kept telling
Speaker 1: me I was gifted? Where what happened to that? Well? Yes,
Speaker 1: both the Lindo man and Malika presumably, and this other
Speaker 1: head that they found. These are all examples of bog bodies,
Speaker 1: and these are becoming more and more are well known.
Speaker 1: The first bog body was discovered in sixteen forty in Germany,
Speaker 1: but since then many more have been discovered in Pete
Speaker 1: Boggs in Denmark, the Netherlands, Ireland, UK, northern Germany, a
Speaker 1: lot of boggy places, even even the North America. Pretty
Speaker 1: Much anywhere there's a bog you might find some bodies
Speaker 1: in there well, and with those very specific conditions. That's
Speaker 1: what I find so interesting about this that they were like,
Speaker 1: it has to be a certain temperature when you fell in,
Speaker 1: and it has to maintain a certain temperature and all
Speaker 1: this stuff like it's very like pretty pretty um exact,
Speaker 1: because you've got to think there can't be a lot
Speaker 1: of other animal life in there too, Like you fall
Speaker 1: into the Yoaki Finoki swamp here in Georgia and your
Speaker 1: gator food. That's it, right, Nobody is ever going to
Speaker 1: find any part of your body because you will have
Speaker 1: become one with the ecosystem very quickly, extremely quickly. I know.
Speaker 1: That's what maybe I was kind of like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: a bog must be different from Marsh, because Marsh feels
Speaker 1: hot to me, like tropical kind of bog is cool
Speaker 1: and foggy, and maybe sort of sounds like I mean,
Speaker 1: if again my knowledge of fifties horror movies is right,
Speaker 1: A bog is bogcast fog bogcast, bog boghast frog. I
Speaker 1: looked up Marsh and I just found the first thing
Speaker 1: to come up is Marsh Insurance Company. I don't care
Speaker 1: about that. Also, why would you call it marsh. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I really want my insurance company to be all about sticky, swampy,
Speaker 1: it's dark, gooey places. All I think of his monster
Speaker 1: plantation from Six Flags and they go, don't go into
Speaker 1: the marsh. Course, of course, if you're from Atlanta, that's
Speaker 1: the first thing you think when you hear the word marsh.
Speaker 1: Marsh is an area of low lying land which is
Speaker 1: flooded in wet seasons or at high tide, and typically
Speaker 1: remains water logged at all times. So is a bog
Speaker 1: of marsh? Look, I don't know who. Do we need?
Speaker 1: Any colleges? Yeah, somebody right in and tell this difference
Speaker 1: between bog and marsh. Yeah, I'm sure we could google it,
Speaker 1: but we'd rather hear it from you. Yeah. No, it's
Speaker 1: always better that you're like, what is just google it?
Speaker 1: I'm like, because I'd rather hear a human being and
Speaker 1: knows what they're talking about tell me than like the
Speaker 1: internet come up. Sometimes that's so true, especially with science,
Speaker 1: like a science fact or something where people you might
Speaker 1: get a nerd who's like real into it and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, not only will I answer your question, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you something real fucking weird about
Speaker 1: you that you never would have seen. Ye, kind of
Speaker 1: like if someone was like, hey, tell me the story
Speaker 1: of the bog body on this show. Before you know it,
Speaker 1: they're learning about the difference between foundering and floundering. They're
Speaker 1: learning about Pete Moss and dirt farmers because people like
Speaker 1: us can't help it. No, it's true, because keep talking
Speaker 1: to fill the silence, all right. So science History says,
Speaker 1: the way back in the day sixteen seventeen hundreds, when
Speaker 1: these bog bodies were discovered, they were usually given regular
Speaker 1: Christian burials and they would decompose naturally. But in more
Speaker 1: recent years people got more interested in how these bodies
Speaker 1: were so well preserved. So instead of just finding one
Speaker 1: and saying, oh, I'll throw it in a grave, they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: let's what the hell is going on here? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: this guy looks normal and he's been dead along time.
Speaker 1: Because that's the thing. These look much better than even
Speaker 1: the carefully preserved mummies of ancient Egypt, a Science History writes,
Speaker 1: quote the famous Tolland Man of Denmark, for instance, could
Speaker 1: almost pass for an old man peacefully asleep with a
Speaker 1: hat still on his head. Whiskers on his chin and
Speaker 1: a leather garat around his neck. So hot tip from
Speaker 1: Ridiculous Romance. Everybody, if you're planning on killing anybody this Halloween,
Speaker 1: just remember don't throw him into a bog and it
Speaker 1: will not burn very quickly either. Hotter tip. Uh, don't
Speaker 1: just don't. Don't. Don't tell anybody, please. We had enough
Speaker 1: of that, plenty of that to go around. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the story of the bog body. And they still
Speaker 1: have not found a trace of Malika Fernandez, damn. And
Speaker 1: he went and confessed the whole thing's boy, is my
Speaker 1: foot in my mouth? Um? Somebody? Somebody, Oh toenail man?
Speaker 1: What a awkward confession. Potter tip. If the cops come
Speaker 1: to you with a skull and say is this your
Speaker 1: ex wives, maybe just say like a lawyer, please, yeah,
Speaker 1: never confess. Don't say anything a lawyer president unless you
Speaker 1: did it, and then please do confess. I mean I'm
Speaker 1: not like, oh, I wish Peter hadn't got away with
Speaker 1: murdering you know that's true obviously, but it does. It
Speaker 1: is a big, like you said, a face palm moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say too. I want to throw this out there,
Speaker 1: especially if you know this story or if you want
Speaker 1: to go look it up and find more information, um,
Speaker 1: it's history. Dot Org does go on to say that
Speaker 1: Peter Reinbart had been imprisoned at some point for quote,
Speaker 1: sex crimes against children, and on this IMDb forum, a
Speaker 1: user says they dug a little deeper and found that
Speaker 1: Peter and his accomplice, Paul Corrigan, kidnapped and killed a
Speaker 1: thirteen year old boy. Now that seemed odd to me
Speaker 1: that the police were keeping an eye on this guy
Speaker 1: because he had committed sex crimes against children that he
Speaker 1: got out of jail for andimly and then they like
Speaker 1: let him go back home. I don't know. That just
Speaker 1: didn't make a lot of sense to me. So I
Speaker 1: googled Peter's name is trying to find some particulars about
Speaker 1: this case or why they let him out or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I just can't find anything to back this up.
Speaker 1: Paul Corrigan did come up, Um, he certainly did kill
Speaker 1: a young boy. Um his accomplice. His name in the
Speaker 1: reports though, is Derek mcgines, not Peter Reinbart. So I'm
Speaker 1: just really not sure where anyone got that information. And
Speaker 1: that's why we didn't really include it in this story.
Speaker 1: But you're from England. If you know what they're talking about,
Speaker 1: please let us know, because it makes me hate Peter
Speaker 1: a lot more, right because I did. I don't want
Speaker 1: him to get away with murder, but I did feel
Speaker 1: a little sympathy if his if his if it's true
Speaker 1: that Malika was trying to blackmail him sexuality. I don't
Speaker 1: think you should murder anyone over that, but you can
Speaker 1: kind of see where that might cause a lot of
Speaker 1: fear and a lot of anger in someone and cause
Speaker 1: him to snap. So it's again not to condone murder
Speaker 1: or anything. I was just like, well, you know, Peter
Speaker 1: should should get in trouble, but I can see why
Speaker 1: at least there's a reason, if not an excuse for
Speaker 1: his behavior. Can bring that down to manslaughter, maybe bring
Speaker 1: it down to manslaughter, which is one of the reasons
Speaker 1: we have a difference between those two things, right exactly,
Speaker 1: there's circumstances, Yeah, thats right, But then but if he,
Speaker 1: like you know, killed a young boy. Also, if he's
Speaker 1: just a murderer, that's definitely a different story, right, And
Speaker 1: you know, that was an other reason it felt like
Speaker 1: a red flag to me that they said sex times
Speaker 1: against children, because that was again homosexuality was illegal, and
Speaker 1: often often there's doing it today. A lot of the
Speaker 1: rhetoric likes to tie anyone gay with pedophilia. It is
Speaker 1: crazy and untrue and completely fucked up to do that.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of like, maybe somebody accused him
Speaker 1: because he was gay and he got in trouble, but
Speaker 1: he never actually did anything. I really don't know. I
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything, so please do let us know if
Speaker 1: you have any idea where that info came from. Right,
Speaker 1: very interesting this one. It's so it's a different kind
Speaker 1: of creepy. It's this episode is recryptulous solely in the
Speaker 1: fact that there's a bug. I mean, like, this could
Speaker 1: be any time of the year murder story, but you
Speaker 1: throw up an English bog in there, and suddenly I'm
Speaker 1: in the spookiest place I can imagine. Right, it's definitely
Speaker 1: there's definitely if there's a bog, then it's all misty,
Speaker 1: it's cold, and somewhere in the distance there's like a
Speaker 1: horse with flaming eyes. You know, I was going to
Speaker 1: feel like an owl hooting. Definitely, they're like a wrestling
Speaker 1: in the bushes or something or some other weird squawking side,
Speaker 1: Like you don't know if it's a bird and a
Speaker 1: monster with footstep or twig breaking. You just know there's
Speaker 1: someone out there, but you can't see me. Maybe they
Speaker 1: can see you. Very scary. Um, you sounded like you're
Speaker 1: real terrified. It really got me on that and your
Speaker 1: pants they're yeah, definitely horrified. Uh, this is a cool story. Um,
Speaker 1: this is a tragic couple. Yeah, and an untimely demise
Speaker 1: and a fascinating science experiment. Yeah. I do wish we
Speaker 1: knew a little more about that two hour conversation they
Speaker 1: had originally. I know, well, I like your idea that
Speaker 1: he was just like, hey, you need someone to marry.
Speaker 1: I need someone to marry. We get along, okay, but
Speaker 1: how do they know that? That's what I'm just like
Speaker 1: in the two out where they like hanging out at
Speaker 1: an airport bar or something, and they just happened to
Speaker 1: start cutting it up, you know, like you do with
Speaker 1: a stranger and he's just like, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: an airline attendant whatever he did for the airline, And
Speaker 1: she's like, I just love to travel. My dream is
Speaker 1: to have a husband who works for the airline. So
Speaker 1: that I can travel for free. And he's like, my
Speaker 1: dream is to have a wife who won't want to
Speaker 1: suck me. And she was like, listen here, I don't
Speaker 1: want to fuck you. So this could work out great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be. I mean, like, what was the what
Speaker 1: was the secret gay language back then? Hilaris Hilaris? Was
Speaker 1: that happening at this time? Yeah, maybe she knew it.
Speaker 1: Maybe she dropped a couple of terms and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're down with and yeah and um and and that's
Speaker 1: how the whole thing started. Maybe I'm just so curious
Speaker 1: how they decided with so quickly to bind their lives
Speaker 1: together and then four days later get married, which I'm
Speaker 1: assuming they just were like, let's just go on down
Speaker 1: and get it, get this done, and she's like, I
Speaker 1: got I'm trying to get to the Maldives. Let me
Speaker 1: get he No for real. I mean, the fact that
Speaker 1: it was so quick, I think lends a lot of
Speaker 1: credence to that angle, right that they're like, they're this
Speaker 1: marriage was not one born of some deep infatuation that
Speaker 1: happened very suddenly because he was gay for one um.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, it does seem like they quickly came
Speaker 1: to an arrangement. I don't know, you know, and how
Speaker 1: true was the two hours thing? Either it's true, there's
Speaker 1: I mean, who who knows how long they really Maybe
Speaker 1: they did know each other like back in the day
Speaker 1: or something like its kids or I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: what we'd like to bring on this show, a lot
Speaker 1: of I don't know, that's why you come to us. Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess we we'll have to go dig in through
Speaker 1: the bog if we ever want to find the answers,
Speaker 1: and then we'll have to reanimate Malika's skull, and then
Speaker 1: she can tell us why why did y'all get married
Speaker 1: so quickly? What happened? She was like, this is why
Speaker 1: you're reanimated my decapitated head. It's probably like thanks for
Speaker 1: finding my decapitated head. Yeah, sure, that's what I would
Speaker 1: tell her. Like sounds ungrateful, but okay. Or it's like
Speaker 1: Buffy or she's like I was in paradise and you
Speaker 1: reanimated me into this swampy decapitated skull. True. Look, it's Halloween.
Speaker 1: We're all excited about ghouls and corpses around here. Uh,
Speaker 1: Malika's too, So I'm so glad that y'all tuned in
Speaker 1: for this one. Hope the spooky season is upon you
Speaker 1: and making you feel all creeped out. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: just really cool learn the science of all the creepy
Speaker 1: bog bodies and body preservation and burning body. I've just
Speaker 1: took a lot of notes for no reason. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well you ab in case I need it right,
Speaker 1: it's on record. UM, just want to put that out
Speaker 1: there for everyone to make sure you download this episode
Speaker 1: and keep it close. Inspector Abbott Casey, I'm mysterious it disappears.
Speaker 1: I would like to put on the record that I
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