1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio Plus mobile app and on your radio. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: This is a Broomberg Business Flash and I'm Karen Moscow. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: This updates brought to you by marks Pan at l LP, 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: ranked among the toughs three forensic accounting firms in New 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: York by the New York Law Journal for the sixth 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: year in a row. Visit marks panet dot com. European 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: the stocks falling, government bonds rising in Germany with gold 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: and a yen after explosions rock to Brussels airport, departure 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: hall and a downtown subway station. We checked the markets 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: every fifteen minutes throughout the trading day on Bloomberg and 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: U Stock Index futures are falling as well, with SMP 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: even A futures down seven points, now EVENI futures down 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: forty and NASA documni futures down eighteen. The decks in 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Germany's down a quarter percent, the CAC in Paris and 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: FT one hundred both down more than six tenths percent. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Tenure Treasury up three thirty seconds, the yield one point 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: nine zero percent yield on the two year point eight 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: four percent Nimex screw oil down four tens percent or 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: fifteen cents to already one thirty six of barrel Co 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Mics Gold up seven ten percent or eight dollar seventy 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: cents to twelve fifty nine announced the euro a dollar 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: twelve nineteen, the yen one eleven point seven six. We're 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: also watching travel related stocks. They are moving lower in 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: early trading after flights in and out of Brussels were 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: canceled and security precautions were stepped up at travel hubs 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: around Europe. Carnival down three point six percent this morning, 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines down one point six per sound, Delta down 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: three percent, an American Airlines Group down three point four percent, 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: and as a Bloomberg business flash, Tom and Mike Karen Moscow, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Obviously, security being stepped up at 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: airports and travel destinations around the world. According to The 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: New York Times, the New York Police Department increasing its 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: police presence at airports here. It is apparently all but 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: impossible to get in or out of Brussels at the moment. 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: The only way to get there is by car. Trains 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: have been stopped and the airports have been closed, and 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Michael Delta eight was the last plane in I believe 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta to Brussels. It landed in Brussels, it was taken 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: to a different part of the airport away from the terminal. 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Flights to Brussels being diverted to Amsterdam and to Frankfurt 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Star Wars hotels. We've been talking about being unlockdown. Early 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: trading has opened its down half a per cent, Delta 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Airlines off three percent, American Airlines off three per cent. 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Ian Bremer is the head of the Eurasia Group. Ian 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: was on with us just yesterday. We were talking about 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the outlook for politics in Europe and Ian, I know 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: this is very very early days. Is this, I'm wondering, 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: going to be a game changer for any of the 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: political events, the whole question of refugees, the borders in Europe, 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the Brexit vote in Britain. Or do we become somewhat 52 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: as the markets appear to be today, inured to this 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's going to be part of daily life. Uh, 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: it is becoming part of daily life, and certainly for 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: the markets. But let's recognize the important trends that are 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: happening in Europe right now. The Germans have worked incredibly 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: uh incredibly strongly to try to get a deal with 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: the Turkish government that would keep refugees in Turkey and 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: would provide visa liberalization for the Turkish citizens to get 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: into Europe. That's been incredibly controversial. That will become much 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: harder to get through as a consequence of the attacks 62 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: that we've seen today in Brussels. We have a Brexit 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: referendum happening on June um. The one of the issues 64 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the Brits aren't finding your very appealing right now. Part 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: of that is refugees in political crisis. Part of that 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: is general malaise and lack of economic growth in this 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: part of the world. That gets harder. It's going to 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: be a tougher slog to keep the Brits in Europe 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: as a consequence, and Merkele her weakness. She's been down 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: over approval rates UM in over just over the last 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: few months, in part because of the lack of support 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: for her refugee policy. She got hit hard UM in 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: state elections over the course of the past couple of weeks. UM. 74 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: This is yet another blow to her the most important 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: leader in Europe consistently since the two thousand and eight 76 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: financial crisis very much on the back foot now and 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: worse as a consequence of these attacks in Belloment. Finally, France, 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: a country that you know has had a hard time 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: meeting the deficit targets, that's basically turned their back on 80 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: authority measures to say we need to focus on security 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: right now. Clearly that's going to be a double down 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: message for the French as well as for many other 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: European countries. Um the impact for economic outlook for things 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: like tourism and for trade, given Shangan and the border 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: issues going to be much more negative. I look ian 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: it the language after November of last year, after thirty 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: people died in Paris, and when you look at the 88 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: EU websites and all that, I think of the Jean 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Monet conference of two thousand fifteen or three worthies walk 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: in a room and pontificate about international relations. Does that 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: end with this events today? I don't know if I'd 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: say it ends. Uh, it's it's just we're going to continue. 93 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: We're just in the spiral where what it means to 94 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: be Europe isn't what it used sal right, Well, no 95 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: one has the will I mean that we don't have 96 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: leadership I mean, one thing I suppose that's thankful is 97 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: that the Americans aren't really very affected by terrorism in Europe, 98 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: so it's not going to have much of an impact 99 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: on what has already been an almost unprecedentedly divisive US 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: presidential election in part around precisely these issues. I mean, 101 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: god forbid, you have these kinds of things happening in 102 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: the US over the coming months, would have a much, 103 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: much greater impact on the way we think about two 104 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. But as for Europe now, I mean, the 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: trends have been support for the French Party UH, the 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: Front National supports for the Alternatives for deutsch Land in 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Germany UM and many many other the Swedish Democrats, the 108 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: list goes on across all of these countries. You've had 109 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: very strong support UM that for for UM UH unstatus 110 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: non establishment parties that are on the fringe. This is 111 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: going to lead to a greater degree. I just saw 112 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: a BBC tweet, a BBC breaking news and once again 113 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: they're gonna light up the Eiffel Tower, and this time 114 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: it will be the coverage of the Belgian flag, the 115 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: colors of the Belgian flag and Ian It will be 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: in solidarity. What is the Ian Bremer to do list 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: for the leaders of institutions in Europe dealing with suicide terrorism. Well, 118 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: and one thing that you're going to see, um, will 119 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: be a move away from privacy and a move towards 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: much greater surveillance. I mean, after the Paris bombings, you 121 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: may remember that there was an enormous division within France. 122 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: The former president Sarkozy said that he wanted to take 123 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: the eleven thousand members of the French community citizens that 124 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: were on the watch list, the terrorists watch lists. He 125 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: wanted to put them under house arrest and he wanted 126 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: to have ankle bracelets on them. UM. In Britain right now, UM, 127 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, if you see someone in the school system 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: that you think UM is susceptible UM to radical Islam, 129 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: is act in a way that you find suspicious, you know, 130 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: you tell the authorities and they basically give them counseling. UM. 131 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, this is a slippery slope, as I'm sure 132 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: you can imagine, and overwhelmingly the push is going to 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: be away from privacy and specifically away from undifferentiated rights 134 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: for those that are thought to be suspect for radical 135 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: Islam and for joining a terrorist cause. Um, and increasingly 136 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: you start moving into an environment where these people are 137 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: treated very very differently. Um and uh and and that 138 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: that indeed, Um, you know there was a worry of 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: at in the US action nine eleven after the Patriot Act, 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: and you saw some of the excesses for example, that 141 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: ends up leading to the Snowden scandal that hasn't yet 142 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: occurred as much in Europe. You'll see much more of that. 143 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: What do we expect in terms of the political fallout 144 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: in in the short run from this, We're gonna see 145 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: heightened security. Do we see Shangon shutdown? Um? Well, Shangan 146 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: is effectively suspended across many of the borders at present. Um. 147 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see again that this is incremental. 148 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: If if this had been a bolt from the blue, 149 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: then we'd be having a conversation of oh my god 150 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: as to the end of Shangan, it's not. We've had 151 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: a number of significant terrorist attacks in Turkey, one just 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: a few days ago. We've of course had significant bombings 153 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: twice now um in Paris that Brussels and Belgium has 154 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: been on higher ever since the November bombings in Paris. 155 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: This sadly is not a prize, and specifically coming on 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: from the heels of the arrest of one of those 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: involved in the Paris bonding, the remaining at large UM 158 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: in the last couple of days, I think anyone involved 159 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: in monitoring terrorism was aware of the fact that that 160 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: could lead UM to any cells that existed that were 161 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: connected to that individual would lead to those attacks. So 162 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: not not a surprise here at all, one of the 163 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: places that you would consider a principal target, but one 164 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: of many, many tipping points. I mean, is this is 165 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: this bigger than one thousand German women being sexually assaulted 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: on New Year's Ease. No, I would say that was 167 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: bigger because that was more of a tipping point that 168 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: really undermined the leadership you had. This is not a 169 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: tipping point. This is just piling off within the piling 170 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: honor stunning headlines. Ian Bremer, the French Prime minister, after 171 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: the Belgium attacks, we are at war? That from the 172 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: French press, who are we at war with? Well, you 173 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: know again that sounds like such an extraordinary headline, so 174 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: you realize he said the exact same thing after the 175 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Paris bombings in November. So I mean, you know, we're 176 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: certainly at at war um with those that would deign 177 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: to commit terrorist acts against our fellow citizens. But what 178 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: we're willing to do to proselytize that war is rather 179 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: different than you know, sort of the wars that our 180 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: nations have fought in the past. UM. And and that's 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: very clear, UM. The the extant conditions that are causing um, 182 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: these these terrorist attacks are largely not in Europe. They're 183 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: largely in the Middle East. They've led they've led to 184 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: millions of refugees. UM. They are governments that are governed poorly. UM. 185 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: They do not have a lot of the economic wherewithal 186 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: that they used to because of the oil prices being 187 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: in the tank, um, I mean, and because of extraordinary corruption. 188 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we know about those issues. Those fixes are 189 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: no closest day after the Brussels bombing than they were 190 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: yesterday before, and so as the consequences. But this is 191 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: not in Brazil. You have a crisis, political crisis that 192 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: is super hute that it's actually bringing down the existing system. 193 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: That the terrorist crisis is insufficiently we have to leave 194 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: it there. Ian Bremer, generous of you to be with 195 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: us these last two days. We continue with another hour 196 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: of Bloomberg's surveillance