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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and This Drink Has Motherfucking podcast. Mason,

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's Segre is your boy

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Speaker 1: in o R. He's a Miami hippoper lioneer. What Up

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Speaker 1: is d J e f N? Together they drink it

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Speaker 1: up with some of the biggest players in the most

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Speaker 1: professional unprofessional podcast and yet number one sorts for drunk

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Speaker 1: Fast Drink Has Motherfuckings New year Z just time for

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Speaker 1: Drink Champs. Drink Up. Mother would a good beat hopening

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Speaker 1: for this city. This is your boy, What Up is

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Speaker 1: d J e f N? And This Drinks Has Motherfucker?

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Speaker 1: Yea Yalla? Mason Love right now. Man. When we're talking

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Speaker 1: about legends of legends, we're talking about groups historically has

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Speaker 1: been there from the test of time, from when hip hop,

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Speaker 1: you know, took that turning point from it being you know, happy,

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Speaker 1: to it being serious to it being almost death threatening

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Speaker 1: or death happening. We didn't never see that until this

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Speaker 1: group had introduced Ah individual first time we ever seen him.

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Speaker 1: We've seen him with this group and they was going

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Speaker 1: all around the world getting a lot of finger popping case.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what the we're talking about. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of some other ship. You want to go too far?

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Speaker 1: He said about did you to motherfucker recipe? So now

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Speaker 1: the Digital Underground, what was the original? Wasn't it three

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Speaker 1: of y'all? At first? The original version of Digital around

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Speaker 1: on the first it was Shot G and chop Master J.

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Speaker 1: You know, the single came out Underwater rhymes in and

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Speaker 1: me and Fuse weren't even in the group. So we

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Speaker 1: actually got in the group through doing shows with them,

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Speaker 1: right We was doing a little barious circuit of shows

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Speaker 1: and they needed a DJ, but me and Fuse were

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Speaker 1: already were a fusion we were, and you know, they

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Speaker 1: set up a meeting through him, and uh, chop Master

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Speaker 1: J was the other person that Shop Master Shop not

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Speaker 1: at all considered a band because I've heard that did

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Speaker 1: It Underground felt like it was. It was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be like a Shot was a musician, so he was

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Speaker 1: always he was always gonna have a musicianship in it.

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Speaker 1: But fun fact, Shop was actually ended like an R

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Speaker 1: and B band called the Spice Regime. Before that Spice Regime,

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Speaker 1: Spice Regime it was, it was called the Spice regive.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think one of the cats as

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Speaker 1: Jerry Coo something because one of them, like the os

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Speaker 1: Sheila SCEs Now he kept it hip hop. But you know,

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Speaker 1: they set up in me with Fuse. But it just

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Speaker 1: so happened that Fuse was written the room out of

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Speaker 1: my mom's apartment he was living with He was living

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Speaker 1: with us, you know, living in the spot. So Bro

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Speaker 1: decided to be the DJ. But he was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: well were group with me. You got money big, That's

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Speaker 1: that's really how I got in a group. Well, you

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Speaker 1: said something that's very important. Just now. You mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area right now. Because of I'll get straight to it.

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Speaker 1: Because of Tupac and Tupac Endeavors, A lot of people

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Speaker 1: associate all of you guys. They just think that, like

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Speaker 1: it took me years to realize when you're in you're

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Speaker 1: doing this. Al A is getting bankers probably doesn't get

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Speaker 1: it twisted, but everybody else, everybody else probably does not.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. In general, it's totality. People just think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like just like people think the East Coast is

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Speaker 1: just New York. I always get that, Like, especially back

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Speaker 1: in the Day's Coming, they called me like, yo, I'm

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Speaker 1: a galley. I'm at the hill. No senset be mad

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Speaker 1: far away. But okay, so an, that's stress. The elephant

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Speaker 1: in the room right, You played Humpty in the movie,

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Speaker 1: correct um, and it's the tuopop movie. How do you

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Speaker 1: get approached? What happens? All right? Boom? I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: skinny light skinner. You know, motherfucker said I resemble shot

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Speaker 1: born with the nose like you know, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. And when they made the big movie and

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Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, they're gonna make the pop movie. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I should bust a play on that. So I just

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Speaker 1: held let me stop you. So you're saying when you

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Speaker 1: saw the big movie you had division from there? Okay, continue,

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Speaker 1: that's ill. That is ill. Continue. I'm sitting like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I think I could sucking around and be that guy

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Speaker 1: and y'all have no connection. I don't. So what ended

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Speaker 1: up happening was I have my stepbrother film me just

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Speaker 1: throwing on the show like this is something. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: out there in the streets trying to make it happen,

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Speaker 1: trying to get an audition. A long story short to

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Speaker 1: end up get audition. Now, before I get the audition,

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Speaker 1: I bumped into Shock, right, and I showed him because

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Speaker 1: my family no Shock, that's the whole other thing. But

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Speaker 1: basically I don't even been around him in California. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: him the video. He's like, yo, you got it. So

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Speaker 1: then we started building. He starts dropping jewels on me.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, he started dropping jewels on me. So now

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Speaker 1: I mean I got the momentum. Long story short, I

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Speaker 1: get the audition. Shout out to my brother Eltie Hutton,

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Speaker 1: who put me on. Yeah. But but prior to that,

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Speaker 1: before I got the opportunity to audition, Shock was like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you should funk with money be and do shows. And

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Speaker 1: so I connect with Muney Wait Shocks telling you to

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Speaker 1: you call the shot. I'm calling hi Humpty right, all right,

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Speaker 1: So you met him Humpty and Humpty said you should

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Speaker 1: So as digital Underground, we really stopped touring and performing

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Speaker 1: together as a as a group. Maybe I think I

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Speaker 1: want to say, was the last reason for that or No,

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Speaker 1: Shock just was he was burnt out on it, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Plus he wanted to you know,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to go and really play his jazz. Already

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Speaker 1: had made it to Florida right now he was still

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Speaker 1: it was still that. This is like so a year

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Speaker 1: passed by and he was like, Yo, I got this dude.

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Speaker 1: You should hook up with him and take him on

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Speaker 1: way you want to do it. Because he shot wanted

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Speaker 1: to lean more to the to the musicianship. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm a hip hop nicker. I still I want to

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Speaker 1: to come back. Because Shock always wanted to just be

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Speaker 1: shocked and stay behind the keyboard. And we were always

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Speaker 1: searching for somebody that could play that character, but that

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Speaker 1: could actually rhyme as well. You know, his brother, His

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Speaker 1: brother was in the same song video. You know, we

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Speaker 1: always had another person, but we never had nobody in

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Speaker 1: the same song his brother was. That's how we that's

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Speaker 1: how he was fooling people because his brother used to

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Speaker 1: do that right. His brother would play yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would take pictures whatever. I thought when he was

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Speaker 1: trying to hook me up. When him, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you trying to set me up? Like you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Because because and shock is shock is a

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Speaker 1: practical jokes. Ye. I don't know if he was trying

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Speaker 1: to send me out he failed, like he just said,

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Speaker 1: was like, I don't know about when I meet this man,

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Speaker 1: I'm like your money beating peace. But he's looking at

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Speaker 1: me like a regularly. But when I saw him, I

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Speaker 1: knew it was him. I was like, and we and

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Speaker 1: we met at it was a it was a TUPAC exhibit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exhibit at the Grammars right down here right most like

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Speaker 1: a little panel thing that we was doing. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen him and I was like, oh, that's bro right,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I said, you know what, let

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Speaker 1: me see this dude. Nigger has an ice greol not

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Speaker 1: letting you just pass through. OK, that's right. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: see but shocks vision was you know, it found out

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Speaker 1: he wanted me to go out because he when he

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Speaker 1: was ready to come back, he wanted somebody that could

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Speaker 1: keyboards and play the music. Because he you know, one

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Speaker 1: thing that he said that he never got a chance

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Speaker 1: to play the Humpty Humpty Dance baseline live because and

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Speaker 1: then he wanted to do that. And he's, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's like, I would freak it, you know, because he

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Speaker 1: But he never got to go. He produced those records,

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Speaker 1: he produced, He produced all that ship. All that ship

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Speaker 1: played the keyboard solos in the video. Other people may

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Speaker 1: be playing, but that shock on the record playing as

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Speaker 1: he did. All the artwork too, and all he drew

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Speaker 1: all of that ship. The Humpty Dance cover that's making

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Speaker 1: a witch. I got some got some gills, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Nora you might not. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: funk with this one, but I got the final sent

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Speaker 1: me an I wanted. I wanted to find my original vinyl.

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Speaker 1: I just looked up open open this one. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: and it got the original opened up because you got

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Speaker 1: the cassette They redid it. But look at the vinyl though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's re release but it's Doper's shocked drawing that.

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Speaker 1: I need to come pull it out just to me.

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Speaker 1: Got the sex packers blue a Sexy? Is that Tommy

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Speaker 1: Boy records on that? Yeah? Yeah, you can talk about

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Speaker 1: for Heaven? What's what's it doesn't matter? Okay, okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: let's do it word so hold on. You was on

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Speaker 1: Tommy Boy too, Yeah, it was on top Tommy Boy

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Speaker 1: with him what was signed Chris? That's why they show

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Speaker 1: About Tank brut Tanks took part to a part one?

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Speaker 1: Uh both they mentioned to point in part one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well in part two they show a Humpty character walked past.

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Speaker 1: But then the first one they mentioned it when you

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Speaker 1: can go so okay, yeah, Latifa, Uh, daylight was still there.

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Speaker 1: I knew he was there right when um did Tom

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Speaker 1: stip remember Eline at the time, bro, what come on?

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Speaker 1: He used to come around with have meetings and have

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Speaker 1: lots of sandwiches debating. I'm like, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. He didn't have I don't know. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: know you don't know. I was looking in his eyes

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Speaker 1: like that look just drilling. I was like, I got

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Speaker 1: the mass scare. I look at motherfucker's all jeez, I'm

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Speaker 1: just playing to try to get my masters back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we was there. Naughty came right after us, and uh

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Speaker 1: kind of think it was a patchy he came right

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Speaker 1: after two. Okay, So how was the experience because at

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Speaker 1: that time I wasn't on timing Boy, when you guys

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Speaker 1: like you guys known about Nation, Queen Latifa, day daylie

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Speaker 1: this this is a powerhouse label when I came label, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're following them. No, I don't know. I definitely don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the time they were studio how many times

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Speaker 1: it was no fat Man school. So let um, so

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Speaker 1: let me ask you, how was it at that time

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Speaker 1: being on the powerhouse label, Especially in the eighties, it

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Speaker 1: was dope because touring like every every every time we toured,

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Speaker 1: gonna drink this shot Bill Man, Okay, solo? Would you

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Speaker 1: would you do with versus? Would you know what? And

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Speaker 1: I mean, so do you guys consider yourselves a band?

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Speaker 1: Underground was more like a a production team, meaning you know,

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Speaker 1: Uh you know clearis mac Deloney. Deloney has had that

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Speaker 1: And so in all of our deals we always had

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Speaker 1: getting compromised. He's gonna had fun, right, But he said, nah,

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Speaker 1: with it? Young Hump? I come a young hump, And

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Speaker 1: He wasn't asking the money. He was to go out

424
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: there and do that. And then when the opportunity came

425
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: where it was his show off show, he let us

426
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: have it and told me to keep doing so. He's

427
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: always just here, just given, just always tell motherfucker's the

428
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: g it's for generosity, generous brother. So let me ask you, Um,

429
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: I like you know your history too. I appreciate history.

430
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: But let me ask you. You asked ten people ten

431
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: different stories. You ask ten people ten things about Tupac.

432
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: You get ten different answers and they all to your going.

433
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: But can you tell us the different verses of Tupac

434
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: you met, starting from when you how did you meet it?

435
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: Obviously the first Tupac met was the humble Tupac, of course,

436
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: the first one. Five ye, let's describe these versions. You know,

437
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: always tell people because the myth or what I always

438
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: here is like, oh man, because remember when Juice came out,

439
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: he played the character and he's like, it's like oh

440
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: pocket is you know, he's starting to feel herself. He

441
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: became really thinking Bishop. But I'm like he was wilder

442
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: than Bishop before that. He actually, by the time y'all

443
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: knew who he was, he had calmed down because he

444
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: was just a wild were in city of the jungles,

445
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, the little projects or whatever, and he ain't

446
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: hash it, so he was it's going for it. So

447
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 1: you was there when when digital hooked up. Okay yea

448
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: he described yeah so, um he was in a group

449
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: called Strictly Dope with ray Love DJ Dizzy. They signed

450
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: local Barrier R. Yeah Barrier bray Love actually had a

451
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: soul career as well. Um, so excuse me. They were

452
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: managed by Layla Steinberg. She knew at you Gregory who

453
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: was our manager, and we were signed to TNT Records,

454
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: his label, and he was like, well, we need you

455
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: guys to hear this group. You know, shot shock at

456
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: her pot in the studio before, but then to hear

457
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: the whole group, we all have to go meet this

458
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: is right eight nine nine, Right, so you guys already

459
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: got records out, No, we know we had we had

460
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: to do what you like out but right, but all

461
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: around that time we shooting the video, they were around,

462
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, so they basically had the audition for us

463
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: out in the streets, all three of them rapping. And

464
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, when I first heard him, I thought that

465
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Ray and Pop were equally talented m c s. They were.

466
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: I thought they were cool. But it was just Pop's

467
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: personality was you know, you if you're in the room

468
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the first day, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you he consumed

469
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: the room. You know. He just had that much charisma

470
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: or person or whatever you want to call it. He

471
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: had that thing about him like you paid attention to him,

472
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: and he made sure you paid attention to him. But

473
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: as you know, as we got to know him, and

474
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: really because we were the same age, you know, I'm

475
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: like a year old, we were the closest in age.

476
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: So when he would come to Oakland to record or

477
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: do whatever, you know, I had the crib that was

478
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: on the block. You know, I'm in the think of it,

479
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: and I got the turntables in the room and you know,

480
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: four track take, I got to run DMC pictures on

481
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: the wall, ship like that Chicks coming by. I got

482
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: the forties. So he likes he liked to hang out

483
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: where I was at, so he'd always come through and

484
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: then you know, you get to learn them real you.

485
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: He didn't have much, so respect was everything. So he

486
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: wasn't taking any just you know, he wasn't having it

487
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: and he would do whatever to make sure that he

488
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: that you respected him from from the jump, you know

489
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. But he was a very also very intelligent.

490
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: You feel me, you know, Um, I can say it

491
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: and the rhyme is a song I did still talking

492
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: with uh macmahl and yuck a mouth right, um, you

493
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: know it's ambitions. I'm still talking the album. But I say, uh,

494
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: these youngsters with the with the tats on the belly

495
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: for the look, I said, you really want to be

496
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: like pop? Read a book because he was you know,

497
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: he would read, he wrote, read a book study. You know,

498
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: he strategized and planning things out all the time. He

499
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: was a gymini to yeah you know, I mean you know, um,

500
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: I already any freestyle like motherfucker. Oh yeah, man, that's

501
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: I always I always said that. I like there's different

502
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: versions of gymnis obviously, and people have different but the

503
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: most unique part is when you are all of them

504
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: like like to me, I believe when Pot said Brenda

505
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: had a baby like I believed him. I believed his feeling,

506
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: but I also believe I wonder why you quoting bitch? Yeah,

507
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, but they were all his truth. He wore.

508
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: He wore everything on his sleeve. He lets you know

509
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: however he felt that day. But we all feel like that.

510
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: You know, if you walk out and a cop pull

511
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: up on you and harash you, you want to police.

512
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: As soon as you leave that cop you see fat

513
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: ass like whoa, yeah, let's do it. I want yeah,

514
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: tell me how you want it. You can make all

515
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: the records in the same day. But all right, so

516
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, you might not be able to answer this,

517
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: but maybe you you can't. I don't know when was

518
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: the time, because it was like when I'm looking at

519
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: it was the same gang, same gang. The was on right. No, no, no,

520
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: he's not noting, he's not that No, he's not on

521
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: that same song. I'm confused. When you look at that Pop,

522
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: you got the afro centric you go. I think he

523
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: got the bone and his nose he got uh like

524
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: it's like to see that pop. Did you meet the

525
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Death Rods? I never was around theath Row, but I

526
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: spoke to Pop several times, and I and I saw him.

527
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: The last time I actually saw him was after all,

528
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: after all, eyes on me and come out. But I

529
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: would hear stories, but but I never spent any time

530
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: actually in that environment, so I couldn't tell, you know,

531
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: deathrop So you definitely yeah, because you guys purposely stayed

532
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: away from each other at that time. No, I mean,

533
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: I remember one time he said, come down. They shooting

534
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: some videos, right and it ended up being the America's

535
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: most one and and and how do you want it?

536
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: They didn't two days. But when he said come down

537
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: to l A, I had heard stories that it wasn't

538
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: a great environment, right, And also I knew that you know,

539
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really uh a jump up and

540
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: follow the type guy. But I know that in that environment,

541
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: if something happened, somebody go whoo, whoa something he got

542
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: to go and go with the with the gang or whatever.

543
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: And I'm just not. That's not you surprised, Like like

544
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I said, the first person you met for the first mercy,

545
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: the first kind of person you met, then to the

546
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: person that he became, because um, like you said, you said,

547
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: he's always just real, he always play It was like

548
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: excessive at this point, well seemed like it was kind

549
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: of going a little bit in that direction. But but

550
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing I always knew, Like I remember in

551
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: the early days, when you know, Park was just over

552
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: with us, certain situations would happen, and you know, he

553
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted to do something right, and if we didn't want

554
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: to do it, He's like, man, funk that, you know,

555
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: like when I get my own ship, my fun's gonna

556
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: follow me. They're gonna do what I want to do.

557
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: And he used to go off like that. So I

558
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: knew once he got that power to do and he

559
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: had people that would follow him and do whatever, he

560
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: was going to use it because he wanted to from

561
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, I mean, as we all, I

562
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: guess would. But I don't know what did I t say?

563
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Ice said, money don't change you, it makes you more. Yeah, yeah,

564
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: So I mean I don't think. I don't think that

565
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: that you know, Pop turned into this super thug overnight

566
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: or because he was with death Row. You know, he

567
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: just he was a person, you know what I mean.

568
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: And and I think that if you you know, he

569
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: just got out of jail, right and it's hard to

570
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: trust people. He don't know what's what because he went

571
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: to jail and some bullshit to my opinion, and what

572
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: from what apparently his time in there wasn't and you know,

573
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: he just moved different. And you know, I don't know

574
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: what circumstances and situations would change any person. You know

575
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: that your experiences make you who you are. So I

576
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know what did shock talk to him? And if

577
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: I know, you said you didn't really deal with him

578
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: much death row days, But what shocked g dealing him

579
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: at all? Mm hmmm. I don't know. I had had

580
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say earie conversation, but I

581
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: had a conversation was shocked during uh. I believe it

582
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: was how can I be down? Conference? And I can't

583
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: remember now. I wish I could remember everything we spoke about.

584
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: All I know is that he was trying to explain

585
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: away the pox behave year in terms of what death

586
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: row had created, Like what what that how evolved? Here's

587
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: the thing? People act like, you know, death row was

588
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: this thing, but he was only on death row for

589
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: nine in terms I can't lie to you very short,

590
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: yeah right, but it was only nine minutes. It's like

591
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's like, right, it was the

592
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: most concentrated. Maybe it was concentrated, but okay, so perfect

593
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: example a story and this to explain, like it didn't

594
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: change much. I remember when we did uh um Juice.

595
00:35:51,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: We auditioned for Juice, right, so well well yeah, come on,

596
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: but okay, so the original like I was the one

597
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: that was called to to really they wanted me to audition,

598
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: like because we were Carrol lewis for for uh still

599
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: the one of the okay, yeah right, so that was

600
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: the it was supposed to be cooking the eggs corn

601
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: supposed I wasn't. Yeah, so I got the script to audition, right,

602
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: and but I knew I couldn't act, and I knew

603
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 1: that Pop had went to school for us. So first

604
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I was asking him to help me prepare for it.

605
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: But as I'm reading the script, I'm like, the still

606
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: remind me, you know, yeah, and so you know we

607
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: we was not a compliment, but I also knew that

608
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: he could pull it off. Right, So we get to

609
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: talking about you know, let's see if we get get

610
00:36:54,719 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: popped to audition for it. And Astron who was our manager,

611
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: you know, he pulls from strings. He hooked it up.

612
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: So we went there, but also the Tretch was auditioning

613
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: for for the other one que is isn't it the

614
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: one that use local. Yeah, the dream was I was

615
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: gonna be still, Pap was gonna be Bishop, and Tretch

616
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be cute, like we was gonna be in

617
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: the movie together. Right, But we get up there. You know,

618
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to room Cricket up. You tried, you tried,

619
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't gonna get it, And then I

620
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: can't come out. Pot goes in the room, he auditions,

621
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: and then you just here clapping and cheering and ship

622
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: and he come out. He's like, man, I think they like.

623
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: I was like, man, you got And I don't know

624
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: what happened with Trutch. Yeah he was in the movie

625
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: because he was there a Pope Putter. If you was

626
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: Pop's friend, he was putting you into that movie. Was

627
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: in the New York pocket, Yes, if he was in it.

628
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: So so the story is, I know I'm talking long

629
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: after we leave the audition because they dropped us off.

630
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: We had to catch a cab back down to our hotel.

631
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: We was in Manhattan or whatever. So we're in the

632
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: cab and somehow it was with me, Tretch and Tupac

633
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: and the cab niggers talking shit, right, I don't know

634
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: what happened. By the time we get close to the thing,

635
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: trut and Pop pull a cab driver, I'll start beating

636
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: the shut out of him, just whooping his ass. And

637
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want none of that. Right, I

638
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: was crazy and I'll go. But I'm just saying, yeah,

639
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: he was, he was there anyway, head whatever. Yeah. So

640
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is now he's with death Row. You

641
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: talk ship. You're not just gonna get beat by him

642
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: and Tretch. You don't get beat by death Row. But

643
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me make a statement. I

644
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: never met Pop, but he was still a compassionate person

645
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: that he was. So you know, you can be two

646
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: or three things at the same time. You can be

647
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: a loving brother, compassionate, you can get back to the community,

648
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: and you could also not take no ship all right

649
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: from I believe that you could be a soldier, go

650
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: to war, kill people, and come back and be a

651
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: good father exactly. Yeah. So you know, so let me

652
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: ask you, because um, I was saying, I never met Pop, right,

653
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: never you like he came to my hood. I was

654
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: in jail as time, Um came a bunch of drug

655
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: dealers in fact live far that that's that's my creue

656
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: that you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well I've been

657
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: little homies to them, um son, yeah yeah, yeah. Um.

658
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: But I was around Nas when Nas completed Belly. Now

659
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: I believe I could be incorrect, but they had a

660
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: lot of reshoots, so Na's kept going in and happened

661
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: to beat this character since it. So when Nas two

662
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: or three months after Na's friendish Belly, he would be

663
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: walking around with the since itid cat and I'm not

664
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: to say, um the coofy and all do we called

665
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: the Crown, I believe. And it would be times I

666
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: would just be talking to him and I'm like, this

667
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: motherfucker's since it. Like he didn't catch on. I don't

668
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: know if he called it, but we were definitely like

669
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, for the you know, when you play a

670
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: character for too much straight, you have to embody that

671
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: it's hard for you to just turn it off. Did

672
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: you see that what with the Juice character? He said

673
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: that he reading the script here, but I'm saying this movie,

674
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: did you see like any type of change? Was it

675
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of upgrade. Was it like he's talking

676
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: a bit, he was already yeah, now pop was always yeah,

677
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: he had to pick it around. Look at his face.

678
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: That was I'm sorry, we don't want to smoke. I'm

679
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: just saying that. That was this. That was this really

680
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: good friend. That was really good. So he was always

681
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: he would always talk about her, but we didn't meet her.

682
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: They were childhood friends, right, yeah, yeah, they were back

683
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. So he was always talking about, Yeah, my friend.

684
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: So who had the most groopies on tour? Uh? You

685
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: mean in our group? Ye? On tour? You who had

686
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: the most goofies? Who's thing of popping the most? Shock

687
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: g had the most opportunities. Now let's just be clear.

688
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: Was he finger popping at shock G or it's humpty

689
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: hump funny story that got more pussy? Shock funny him.

690
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: They both competed in shot shot got the most right.

691
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: But one time I remember him coming down and he

692
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: was like, yo, this chick she she He said, Humpty

693
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Hump just got his first piece of pussy. Because he's like,

694
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: she wanted me to keep the nose on, and she,

695
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't want him to take it off.

696
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: She wanted to humpy humpy fucker, and he was he

697
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: was not happy about that. You know, He's like, like,

698
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: you know what, me, she want this character right. He

699
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: felt a certain way that she wanted him to keep

700
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: the know he did it like asking me to keep

701
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: the nose on. He's like something sucking her right, the

702
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: nose on. Then he got mad. So you know, I

703
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: know at one time that humpty hump, goddamn wow. Let

704
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: me let me. I'll never tell you. One thing about

705
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: him is I've watched the interview on him and how

706
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: he would break down, you know, voice voice tones, how

707
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: he would understand how nas ron like this, how big

708
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: he rome like this. And I met him. It was

709
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: funny that you said you had a conversation with I

710
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: met him one time and he was breaking down my

711
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: voice notes. He was telling me how I rhyme and

712
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: I had no idea what he was talking about till

713
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: he passed away. He was just telling me like that,

714
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: I ride from a certain pilot. You know what I'm saying.

715
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: And um, I sent you did not send you that

716
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: clip where he was doing it first super Tuk or something.

717
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: This is before that you sent that, But I said,

718
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: this is before that though this is before that. This

719
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: is like me and like we was like Arkansas or

720
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: some ship, and we was just sitting there and I'm looking,

721
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, is that him? And he looking it's that.

722
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: It's that because we're like both don't know and ship

723
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: like in something like Riggy Dink Airport. And then we

724
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: and he started telling me, and I would and then

725
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: I see that footage, not the footage him wrong with me,

726
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: but beforetage, and I would realize how analytically he is,

727
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: like it reminds me of Kanye. Like Kanye the other

728
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: day would just break down hip hop like sports. He

729
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: just really can't compare hip hop to hip hop. He

730
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: has to compare hip hop to sports. But it said

731
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: deep me and it shot remind me of that. It

732
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: was it was he does and he so that's that's

733
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: even how he used me on records, like my voice

734
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: was an instrument to blend in with the songs that

735
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: he was making. So he would just be like, so

736
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: he's the first person, you know, you used to rhyme

737
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: my senior beat, sixteen bars, break hook. That shot would

738
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: just play and then he just fill in the pockets

739
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: of where he thought voices should go. Around his music.

740
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: So he'd be like, mine, I need you, I need

741
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: you to do three bars right here or do eight here,

742
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: and then I would just go in and do it.

743
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: But and then but then he would move it around,

744
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: or he would just lay it how he how he

745
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: heard it, and I just I would just go in

746
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: and do it and let him layer it and blend

747
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: it in with the composition. So he was really like

748
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Dr Dre. Yeah, wh you say your favorite rapper, savor

749
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: rapper Shock was your favorite producers favorite producer, because they

750
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: anybody that knew like Drey was a fan of Shot.

751
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: Shock told me that Dre asked him to be a

752
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: member of n w A in the eighties. What he said,

753
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm doing my own thing. Shock told me that I

754
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: ain't come to drink MP to a lot of y'all niggers. WHOA,

755
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: that's my own thing, because he was Yeah, because even

756
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: when we did them all in the same gang, right, um,

757
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: we got to talk about it. Yeah, so you know

758
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: that was self destruction for the West Coast correct previously, Yeah,

759
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: exactly that. But in the part that we did, you know,

760
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: Shocks playing it right. You know on the part he

761
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: breaks down and he's playing like that, So he produced

762
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: that part. That part so Dre Adam come in to

763
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: play it and Shot told me I went in the studio,

764
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: but Shot was like when he was playing the humpy

765
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: Dre was like trying to see trying to see what

766
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, I was doing it, you know, Shot Shock

767
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: was that guy. Okay, So let me just ask you

768
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: because this is this is something that I just He's

769
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: sitting around y'all got digital underground and he says, I'm

770
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna be two different nickels. How does this like? Like

771
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: did he want to be? Like, yo, listen, did y'all

772
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: think it was corny at first? Like? What? How was it? Nahum?

773
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: The first time? You really if you go back and

774
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: watch them do what you like video? Humpty's in the

775
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: video At the time, he didn't have a name. It

776
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: was just a character that he that was, you know,

777
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: because he had mc bow Fish that videos wild was

778
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, Shot had characters that we know about, you

779
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But the even a Humpty dance

780
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: came about because it was a couple of songs that

781
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: we couldn't get cleared. So Humpty dancing freaks in the

782
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: industry were like the last two songs that were recorded,

783
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: and on the reason we recorded them this because two

784
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: of the songs couldn't get clear. We try to use

785
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: like a craft work sample for a song that didn't

786
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: get clear. But he I remember going out, I remember

787
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: borrowed my manager's card, carr car got drunk, crashed it,

788
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: ship came back. I'm so drunk. I didn't act like

789
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: nothing happened, but I was like, look, listen to this ship.

790
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: As soon as I heard it on the four track,

791
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: I was like, we out of here and that was

792
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: what you like? Humpty dance? Yeah, first time, And I

793
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: still have the I still have the cassette with the

794
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: four track version of the song. And to the break

795
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: and the drums is just cutting through crazy. It's more

796
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: hip you know, it's hip hop. But the four track

797
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: version is just a little grittier. Right. But the first

798
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: time I heard it, I was like, this is it?

799
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: And I don't know between what you like and making

800
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: that song when he named the character. But all I

801
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: know is I heard that song and it was called

802
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: the humpty Dance for humped up, and then you knew

803
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: that DJ not from live or drink chats for digital

804
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: Underground God damn it, I hate you. I'm there cool,

805
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: no problem? Did did He said he was going to

806
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: do the whole character though I know that he appeared,

807
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: but let me let me ask let me ask you

808
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: a question, because you did say did we think it

809
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: was corny? It wasn't weird during when we shot to

810
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: do what you Like video, it's just a wild video.

811
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: Were just having fun, walking crazy. So whatever he wanted

812
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: to do, it was like whatever, because we was on

813
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: some whatever ship you know by areas like, it's just

814
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: a diverse it's really a do what you like type

815
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: of environment. You know, be you. That's where fucking the

816
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: grateful Dad is from fucking sliding family stone function. You know,

817
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: it's just funk. It's it's hate streets. It's freedom to

818
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: be who you are, right, So if that's what do

819
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: you want to do? It was like we're rocking with it.

820
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: But that was the first time in hip hop we

821
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: showed that one person had two different personalities. After that,

822
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: you see method Man too, Kyle, you see Nasa Esketball,

823
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: nas Esketball, you see Nori Jos Luise got you. But

824
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: the first time, and not only that, he actually acted out.

825
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: He was committed Tom. Yeah, I don't think we've had

826
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: a back story and everything the M Doom because I

827
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: never thought it was MF. Doom performing. I'm kid you,

828
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: not me. I'm so sorry, Like I just always thought

829
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: it was like he just said the industry sucked me.

830
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: So I'm sucking the industry back, and I'm gonna have

831
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: ten shows at once. This before Instagram and Twitter, So

832
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: I thought MF. Doom would be at ten shows that

833
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: rumors that he would do that. Yeah, I didn't even

834
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: know who that was for a long time. We were

835
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: toured together third Base, right, Yeah, you want me to

836
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: tell you some ship It might have been at least

837
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: thirty five years old before we last I'm trying to

838
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: go through this whole interview. What I was saying that,

839
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: you know in the movie, I had to be grown

840
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: grown to realize what and I was just like, wow,

841
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: the old ship. I thought, like they're the same note

842
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: sucked everybody up in the movie. Good Fellas with Dude

843
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: is like the luft Toms, the Heights, the greatest heights Jfkin.

844
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: They pulled off the robbery at the airport Humps the

845
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: greatest trick pulled on him ever. Because niggas didn't know that.

846
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know what we fight about it. I'm one

847
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: of them. I wanted them. So so this is not

848
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: a marketing scheme from the label. This is this is

849
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: him or this is something you know, this is his creation.

850
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: I remember even before that he was he was empty blowfish.

851
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: That was people that don't know, that's the most dangerous

852
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: fishes you can eat on earth. Blow If he was,

853
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: it's dangerous mc get it didn't make sense to me

854
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: back then blows but they're not you know, I got

855
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of money and blowfish is dangerous. Dangerous.

856
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: Shock told me this, he said, when they recorded the song,

857
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: do what you like, he just does the voice. They

858
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: go to me, I was doing the video. They hit

859
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: the party supply store buying mad noses giving everybody knows

860
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: that's why MC light got the nose in the video.

861
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: He said. When he put the nose on with the voice,

862
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: it was magic. Right. So then they're looking at the

863
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: editing the video and they're like, that's that. So they

864
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: like cut out everybody else wearing the noses. But we're

865
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna leave Light because we were gonna leave that. So

866
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: he just kind of cut all the other ship out,

867
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: he said, So he created it in real time, like

868
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: like it just definition of ore. Yeah. So there was

869
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: no meeting about this is what we're gonna do. I

870
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: got this idea. No, it just he showed a set.

871
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: He was wearing nose, but he was like cool for

872
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: a better term. I was like, the first gimmick in

873
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: hip hop, right, don't it's give me a bad word.

874
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: No it's not. But I don't know that that was

875
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: the first one. I don't have to really think, you

876
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: know what, you can't use that you loosely. But there

877
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: was other people disrespect gimmicks like spikes y spikes, because spikes.

878
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look at spikes like a gimmick to like

879
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: like slashing them. Yeah, like I mean yeah, they had

880
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: to because they were they were performing with confunction and

881
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: and those you know groups that have to rock the ship.

882
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: That's what it was, Rick James, yea, they had there

883
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: was that's what a rock star was, and they all

884
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: aspired to be rock stars for the time, like there

885
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: was no rap star. Remember kas was here saying that

886
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: a lot of those early years they were with punk

887
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: rock groups. That's what I'm saying. They were all kind

888
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: of looking alike looking at Rick James like even, um,

889
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: that's it. But sucked me up. When you ever see

890
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Beach Street when you have to do with them, Yeah,

891
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: the Mohawks, I'm like, all right, too much. It was

892
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: dressing up there. It was bad. So we got a

893
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: game that we're playing on ship. It's called quick Time

894
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: but slide. It's a shot game, Charles, I need you

895
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: other less shot game, all right, so we're gonna play

896
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 1: that's side of the room. Yeah, it was distracting me. Um.

897
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: So it's it's you pick one or the other. If

898
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: you pick two, you take a shot. If you pick none,

899
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: did you take a shot and we take a shot

900
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: with you? Just not me today. I'm just sucked up today.

901
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: But prob okay you ready, who's drinking medication? Come on, Sunny,

902
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: Come on, good Sunny. We need you gonna take my shot. Sunny,

903
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: come over here, come on slaying and Sunny Sunny, get

904
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: yours up, put your roll legs back on. You take

905
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: it off on the weekends, you put the rally on it,

906
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: come on, come on off top. I don't. We're gonna

907
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: stand there and like that. But what kind of shots

908
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: you guys want? What you got man, I'm just drinking

909
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: the shot we got, we got, we got s we

910
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: got you. We got to tequila. You gotta te kill

911
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: for you. This mama wanting as mama wanna what is it?

912
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: It's mama wanna. Don't recommend it. I don't know what,

913
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: don't I don't he what don't taste like? I think

914
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: you like it. I think you'll like it. I think

915
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: you're like it tastes like assid pennies. Okay, like tennis pies.

916
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: That if I can tell you, that's what I asked

917
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: you to say. That's what. That's what. That's what asked saying.

918
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: Like taste like pennies. It could be a show, liter

919
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: just movement, whatever you want whatever, All right, So you're

920
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: ready already. Yeah, you're gotta take it yet. No, No,

921
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna go that fall. You gonna get that bottle.

922
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm gone. You gotta get shot soon. Yeah,

923
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: come on, if I need to, I'll drink. You guys

924
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: are a team. I'm started with you and I'm about

925
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: back up. Oh we don't both rans up, just one

926
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: in time, one of the time to make it. But

927
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: you gotta drink either way. Yeah too short or forty.

928
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking to him. You too short. I might actually

929
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: did too too short by short dog and you said

930
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: too short. You said, okay, all right. Is there a

931
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: reason why come from uncle? No, on the real there's

932
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: a reason why, because too short is really my biggest

933
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: inspiration to think that I could becoming MC only because

934
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: growing up in Oakland, I thought that you had to

935
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: be from New York or l A to make a record.

936
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: But you know, when I was a kid or a

937
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: teenager and to see I'm gonnafucker that's on the same

938
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: bus with you. He got a record out, that's oh

939
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: I can do it. The bus for too Short. I've

940
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: been on the bus. Okay, I've seen him on the

941
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: bus before. No, not the Trump. Actually, you know, I

942
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: take that back. I was on a bus and he

943
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: was at the bus stop. He's outside row By and

944
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: he had the old too short hat. Was like, oh

945
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: that's too short. But you know, just being able to

946
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: see and touch somebody I was doing it made me

947
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: feel like I could. I could do it. So I

948
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: change your life exactly. I'm always short short short So

949
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: was the mischief or day so daylck I got and

950
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: I got a reason for that. I've always said that

951
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: Daylight Soul, you know, you know, everybody talk about they

952
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: got many styles. Dayline has many styles from song to song,

953
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: cadence to concept that goes specifically with the track. I

954
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: think they lie does that better and more than any

955
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: hip hop group in history. Um, they lock got their

956
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: masters back. This is that's something that you guys are

957
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 1: interested in. Um, I'm happy for him, and it's it's

958
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: it was time, you know, because really you know, well

959
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I don't even know if I should

960
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: say this loud, but we say it loud. But the

961
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: only reason being for some artists because after I think

962
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: it's thirty three or thirty four years, no matter what,

963
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: your master's reverted back to you anyway. And only reason

964
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: why I say not to say it loud because labels

965
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: also know that. So if they're still making money off

966
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: your masters, when it gets close to that time, they

967
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: start trying to do ship to hold you up. But

968
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many years passed, you know, But

969
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: but for what I understand, Um, if it's Warner or

970
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: a Tommy Boy, they also still kind of make money

971
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: from it. But you know, I think artists, especially from

972
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: the air. We should all get our masters back, and

973
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: one more thing before you want, um, you know on Daylight,

974
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: you know on Pop, you know, in the original park

975
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: and then Pop has this record this in Daylight later

976
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: on it like where were you at? How did you?

977
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: How did you comprehend that? I thought it was a misunderstanding,

978
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: and I thought that you knew what it was about. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

979
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: you know they're in the video was so that was

980
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: something specific that it was about. Yeah, yeah, you remember

981
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: the video where the dayline, so yeah, and they got

982
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: there on in the hot tub and then they like

983
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: and all that ship and Pop was like I thought

984
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: they was taking shots to him around the world from

985
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: from uh, you know, the song around Around. But I'm

986
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: saying not taking shots that, y'all, I get around. Tupac

987
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: took it as Daylight was taking shots at him when

988
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: they was like perpetrating with the with the and then

989
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: they take the away or whatever. He felt like it

990
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: looked too much like him in that video. So, like

991
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: I said, Pop is gonna snap back right away. It

992
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: was surprising to me because we were cool with Dayli,

993
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure dayl thought the same thing, right, And

994
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that Daylight did that specifically to take

995
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: a shot at pop. They were just taking shot at

996
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: it at the industry because that's what you know. It's

997
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: in every R and B video hotub with the girls,

998
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: So that's that's what that was about. So when I

999
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: heard it, I was like, you know, but I'm not sure.

1000
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: Look tell me what Google says. I think that they

1001
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: kind of made peace with that before he passed. Okay, big,

1002
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: big punt, biggie lyrically or as a person, whatever you want. Uh,

1003
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm going big because I know him. Okay, Tupaca m

1004
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: Tupac a Miami. Mm hm wow. He's from l A,

1005
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: so he's gonna says in the building. Um, I don't

1006
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: know enough about Miami, so I'm gonna say l A

1007
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: okay obviously right, Yeah, I've only been motherfucking purple tables

1008
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: written here, so I'm loving Miami. Shout out. So Young

1009
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: Mouth or Mr fab you mouth for digger. It's crazy

1010
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: because Mr Faber is from from my neighborhood. But lyrically,

1011
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I always say that young Mouth does and even get

1012
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 1: appreciated half as much as he's a beast. So yuk

1013
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: moum okay, if we're talking to hip hop day. Okay,

1014
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: scar Face ice Cube, take a shot. Cube cute that

1015
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: said that too easy. Now it's my my guy. We

1016
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: love face. Oh yeah, facing my guy. He's the guy.

1017
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: But you know cute, come on, okay, radio podcast in

1018
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: my older age podcast. I don't even listen to the

1019
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: radio eighties or nineties, hip hop, nineties, eighties, eighties, eighties,

1020
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: Why because that's what shape me right. You know, we

1021
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: came out nineties, but I took everything. You know, we

1022
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: took the the EP m D Yeah, rock him and

1023
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: Carris One to fucking mold you to crash Crew, the

1024
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: ful Fearless for you know, that's that's my ship. Okay,

1025
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: Fresh Gordon from Tommy Butt n w w A w

1026
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: TAG I got to represent for I just start taking shots.

1027
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: But you have disagree, Oh that's what you want. Take

1028
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: you said you don't like that, said like that and

1029
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: you said, te okay, I just wanted to see an

1030
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: explanation in w A. Well you took your shot. We

1031
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: actually just underground comes from the n w A fac

1032
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: if it was from w A because our Acian Gregory,

1033
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: he's the he's the road manager for Ruthless Records, and

1034
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: he used the money that he made working with Ruthless

1035
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: to start his label, which signed this underground. So we

1036
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: came up under and around the n w A. But

1037
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's just part of it. The other

1038
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: reason is mhm. You know, I'm from Oakland and if

1039
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: you know our culture, you know, we ride around with

1040
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: fifteen in the trump. We were banging. So when Wu

1041
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: Tang came out, I didn't hear it because it wasn't.

1042
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: We wasn't slapping it in our cars like that because

1043
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: it was it was. It didn't. It didn't bump like

1044
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: I used to, like, uh, what's it? They used the

1045
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: underdog shit Wu Tang playing it. That was my ship, right.

1046
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: I used to play that in my Mustang and I had,

1047
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, I had, like I said, had four fifteens

1048
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: that she used to pound. But other than that, it

1049
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: wasn't what I was riding around and the ladies wasn't

1050
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: paying attention to that. That's what I was on. He

1051
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: was rocking too short w A. Well, if it ain't

1052
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: I know, if Wutang didn't have enough baselines for me,

1053
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: you feel me. It had nothing to do with with

1054
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: them personally. It's just that it's and it was. You

1055
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: know it was mixed sonically in w A would sound

1056
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: better in my car than more of a headphones on

1057
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: the on the train type ship. I got it, well,

1058
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: it took me a while to get it. Like I

1059
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: love U Tang, but I didn't get it when they

1060
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: first came out. So now you you said Wu Tang,

1061
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: I need, I need. I needed the explanation, yo man.

1062
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: My perspective on the matter at hand is that the

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01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: Wu Tang is the greatest ship that ever happened to

1064
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: hip hop. I said it. Quote me in any shape,

1065
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: form and fashion. I love to guard so much. I

1066
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: just came from the rest of my voice is passed.

1067
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: I was alway wilding at the Ray Ghosts and just

1068
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: the Three Chambers tour. That's how I get down. I mean,

1069
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: if anything, both of those crews in those groups are

1070
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened. You know, they're there

1071
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: the tree from the end of you in the tree

1072
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: that Yeah. But what I'm saying is they're both equally great.

1073
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: But if you ask me one or the other off

1074
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: the rip, I'm gonna immediately say w A. I'm gonna

1075
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: say w A over a lot of groups. You know,

1076
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: you said you might say, did you underground in n

1077
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: w A. I'm gonna like my two favorite albums is

1078
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: Death Certificate and Only Built for Cuba Links Desolutely cu. Yeah,

1079
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: that's one of the best albums hip hop and music.

1080
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: I think, like, like one of the best albums. Okay,

1081
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: ir DJ Quick or Dr Dre pulling me a shot,

1082
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: Gonna drink a shot, but I'll drink at yo. That's

1083
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: the hardest we got. They got me. They don't have

1084
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: measurements of capable of answering that question. So I love

1085
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: y'all Quick d drinking does drink to DJ Quicken Dr Dre?

1086
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: I love him both. You know it's crazy. You know

1087
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's crazy. Is you know we're going through

1088
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: this Travis Scott Travesty that just happened in the after

1089
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: world of Houston. Rest in peace to everyone who lost

1090
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: their life, Rest in peace, um and and you know

1091
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: everyone who got hurt, you know, my love go out

1092
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: to them. But today on Twitter, because I always go

1093
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter because it's a negative place. So today on Twitter,

1094
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: they they're they're they're reporting other people who stage dive

1095
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: and other people who like did marshpit type of ship.

1096
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: And there's this whole monologue of DJ Quick doing that,

1097
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, Like his music doesn't reflect that,

1098
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't listen to a DJ Quick thing and

1099
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: be like he's gonna be. But this is in relation

1100
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: to the Travis contipt. No, they were just showing how

1101
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: people um today. They was just giving examples how other

1102
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: artists you know, do a mark from and he's been doing.

1103
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: And they showed a monologue him like a couple of

1104
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: times just jumping into montage yeah um serting like them

1105
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: like picking him up and he's like like laying back

1106
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, whoa, this is the most white boy

1107
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: I've ever seen like Quick do because you know, Quick

1108
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: as just me. But I actually didn't go to his

1109
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: festival show. So they're showing him in festivals and they're comparing.

1110
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,479
Speaker 1: What they were trying to do is say like, yo, listen,

1111
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: you know the security wasn't great at the Traffic Scott thing,

1112
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: but it wasn't Travis. You know what I'm saying. So

1113
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: that's what they was trying to explain on Twitter. But

1114
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 1: the funny part was I got to see DJ Quick

1115
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever he did, he jumped, but Jeff

1116
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even see Quick not smooth like he's always

1117
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: been the smoothest motherfucker ever. I see Quick DJ one

1118
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: time and earlier that day he was on Instagram posted

1119
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: the story at Amie but records at l A buying records.

1120
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: And then it comes to the gig with all vinyls.

1121
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: He plays a record, takes it off, hands it twin

1122
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: nig and the crowd that was the next record on

1123
01:07:54,560 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: spends it takes off, hands it twin crazy And he's

1124
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: a musician and I've seen that motherfucker dude tricks. Ready, dope,

1125
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm ready exhibit or rass cast rass shout out to

1126
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: grass Cast answered that way too fast, My brother, My brother.

1127
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: I gotta call ras as soon as we get out

1128
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: of here. And it is my man to you know

1129
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: what I mean Between Clarence Thomas and Noadomas. You already

1130
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: know that I meant having those lines that haunt you

1131
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: is unofficial member of Digital Underground XX the source. I

1132
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: probably read the source more than xex Hell yeah, so

1133
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: I would say the source only because okay, rap City

1134
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: or TV raps. You rap City, you know I'm TV raps.

1135
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: That becomes a generational thing. Yeah, that's how we started

1136
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 1: on the basic TV raps. Dr Iel. You know, I'm like,

1137
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm an unofficial Queen's nigga too. That's oh, but you

1138
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: don't know, San Francisco, what are you talking about? Keep

1139
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: taking a drink. Let me are you even asking me

1140
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: a question? Let me joel about this man right here.

1141
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: This is the most Oakland nigga in the world. But

1142
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: he's a motherfucking forty Niners fan. So this is the

1143
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna be walking around with the Niners had on and

1144
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: all these Oaklan niggas with the Raiders had sweating, but

1145
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: they took the Raiders from ya. All right, y'all, But

1146
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying he started. You have to imagine him in

1147
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: the early nineties when Oakland was the murder capital of

1148
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: the world, of the country whatever. He's walking around with

1149
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: the Niners hat on, all these Oakland niggas, is like,

1150
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: I love mom, but that nigga got the and that's

1151
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: that's that's the end of me. That's the enemy football team. Yeah,

1152
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: it's like forty Salute Juice all above the Rim Juice

1153
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: que soundtrack. No, no, no, the Juice soundtrack was dope,

1154
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: but so it was above the Rim soundtrack. But you're

1155
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: going off for soundtracks. I'm just doing that. But let

1156
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: me ask you Juice soundtrack, but the Rim soundtrack saying

1157
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: the soundtrack saying movies. I know what I'm asking you

1158
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: right now, remember sound like the sound My god, you

1159
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: need to grow out the jail. But Juice changed niggas lives,

1160
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: nigga Juice. I wouldn't jug Juice. What I'm saying king

1161
01:10:53,080 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: shooters or DJ. It was was shooting, DJ shooting. So

1162
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: who you going with? I go with Juice. You go, okay,

1163
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: come to some harder ones. All right? Now, this is

1164
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: my engineer who did that. He Google, He google self

1165
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: self destruction all in the same game, same game. Self

1166
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 1: destruction was the first one. Yeah, yeah, that's was everybody

1167
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: on set for that. Everybody was there. We we we

1168
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: were on tour when they shot that video, so everybody else.

1169
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: You know, they shot around Nickson Gardens. Yeah they did

1170
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: all that kid getting the hood right, that's okay. Um,

1171
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: we were on tour, so we left the tour, we

1172
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: had a day off. We flew that. We shot our

1173
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: part just that one day. Um, so we didn't get

1174
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,919
Speaker 1: to do it, but we did our Cineo Hall with everybody.

1175
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever saw that on the

1176
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: same game Hall and we were all there. It was

1177
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: that self destruction video was the hardest video, but both

1178
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: of them together, I mean it was just great. That's

1179
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 1: no reason I say self destruction because it was the

1180
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: first first. I respect that. Um. I want to get

1181
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: back into that. D Knights made the beat. Um, Kanye Farrell,

1182
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: Kanye Okay, okay, cares Wana can making it difficult. Take

1183
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: a shot, you got, you got, you got a little

1184
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: We think about that when we think about that for

1185
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: minutes a shot he put his rolling back on. I

1186
01:12:54,240 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: gotta take KOs One or Kane. I am going to say,

1187
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: do I want to say that's tough? Wait, let me

1188
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: ask it. Um, come out. Yeah, I'm trying to think

1189
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: of the reasons why because I know you're gonna ask me.

1190
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: Let me go with Kane. Why uh Kin obviously so

1191
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: he's a good friend of mine. But I'll say this,

1192
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: Charis One's catalog is greater. Right. But to me, you know,

1193
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: I judge. I judge them sees on when they when

1194
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: they came on the scene, did they change did they

1195
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: change him seeing did they change the game like when

1196
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: or you know something changed, right, you know when rock

1197
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: Camp came on Nobody he shifted with Camp um he

1198
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: made these albums intellectual words, and he didn't curse Kane

1199
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: when he was peeking, and when he came in he shifted.

1200
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: It made everyone were flattops, not just not just with

1201
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: the with the style, but the style and just the

1202
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: way that he was kicking it. I wanted to dress

1203
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: like car but what I'm talking about, that's what I'm saying.

1204
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: We ced on this movie. Dress said I want to

1205
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: dress like Chris. I'm sorry, I love So here's the thing.

1206
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, I was getting ready for this. I was

1207
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: doing push up thinking about what you're gonna ask me, right,

1208
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, like, came Harris One and rock

1209
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: him on my three favorite rappers. So today I'm gonna

1210
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: say Kane. Tomorrow my carriss One tomorrow, next day I

1211
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: might say rock him. I'm only saying Kane because I

1212
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: just wanted to make that point about mcs, that shift.

1213
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the way they rhyme. Carros One. He's

1214
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: in a class by himself. Like I can't even even

1215
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: explain it. It's just, you know, yeah, criminal minded, just

1216
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: everything like I remember Carris One did a show in

1217
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: Berkeley in the Bay Area, right and we were we

1218
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: were opening for him, and then so it got back

1219
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: to me, it's like, you know, and then carriss One, uh,

1220
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: somebody told him that we were excited to do a

1221
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: show with him or whatever, you know that we were.

1222
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, they're joined around, they're excited to

1223
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: meet you do the show with and he said, and

1224
01:15:50,880 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: he said, he said they should be. So when they came,

1225
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: he said that they cares One say they should be,

1226
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: and I said, we are, like you expect. Carross wanted

1227
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: to say that you know what I mean. They said,

1228
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:14,480
Speaker 1: when carros was battling Kane, I'm excuse me. No. Mcres

1229
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: was on the zoom call because they just did a

1230
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: battle with Kane. Kane recommended that they bring up and

1231
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,560
Speaker 1: do some freestyles because Kane felt like, um, you know,

1232
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 1: like his catalog didn't stretch that long. So carross One says,

1233
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm like, why, why why we want

1234
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,719
Speaker 1: the freestyle? Like I just want to keep playing records

1235
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 1: and can He was like, you know, so he admitted

1236
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: to it, and they said that carres and said, well, whatever,

1237
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do the greatest in the world,

1238
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: just go back to so you gotta you gotta love that.

1239
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: So he made me change my mind a little bit.

1240
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: Vote icons. It was great to see everybody geek out

1241
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,839
Speaker 1: like everybody and he pively did not pick pick anybody.

1242
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: When I watched the battle, I was definitively yeah, he

1243
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,640
Speaker 1: just enjoyed us. Well. I said that that was like

1244
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: a draw. You enjoyed it. I didn't like watch to

1245
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: short one. Absolutely. You didn't know a lot of the

1246
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: songs because they started when they started getting too that

1247
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: bea area. Shit, I don't know a lot of it,

1248
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: but I love that would come on. That's my number

1249
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: one market on the West Coast. He but your area

1250
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: area how it was telling things earlier. I like that

1251
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: what started they one because you know when that ship

1252
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: come on. Because I'm jumping on cars and stomping, I

1253
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: was how many say how many kids got killed off?

1254
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 1: But let me you know what, make sure we get

1255
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: into the l A Land was in Philly because I

1256
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: would tell you after, you know, after Big passed away,

1257
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: we were nervous going to the West Coast. We didn't

1258
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. We didn't really want to go to the club.

1259
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: We didn't want to go to the after parties. We

1260
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: want to perform and we want to leave. And we

1261
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: were also it was also different about the gang bang culture,

1262
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: like we was just we just didn't adapt to that.

1263
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: But you know it wasn't our gangs in the bad

1264
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: you are finished, but we were to the Bay y

1265
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: you want this bitch, You're like what, like we can

1266
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: just offer you a girl? And then they just just

1267
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: just players and like and then they were us and

1268
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: it was like the first time, like people wanted to

1269
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: hang with us, but they bring their own bottles, like

1270
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: like if you hung with us at the time, like

1271
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: we from the bottles and the these dudes was getting

1272
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: money and like, yeah, we give areas Bay Areas first

1273
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: West Coast period town to embrace me personally. Um okay,

1274
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: mc que Latifa take a shot. That was gonna go

1275
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: calling a bit. I kind of like lights first album,

1276
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: but wait, let's go with the label mate, Okay, cool

1277
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: Master Ace or mac Tent the Chicken Hawk mac Tab

1278
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: that's mac Tab for those going on, God damn, that's

1279
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: a that's a good one because master Ace Symphony and

1280
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, given him into bis was

1281
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: it rhyming with the biz. You know, I saw him

1282
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: perform that music seminarchis. He's reinvented himself a bunch of times. Yeah, yeah,

1283
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: so I would say just on career wise and the

1284
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: way that he did it. We're just talking about musically,

1285
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: let's go with master Ace. But mctin also became a

1286
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 1: show promoter. Absolutely, mctender was staying in. Mctinder sounds like

1287
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: both you take a shot. That sounds like, yeah, you

1288
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: just said both, Let you go. Let me say that's

1289
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: how y'all getting? He was letting you go? Did you

1290
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: keep going? I should have just shut up when I

1291
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: had you want to join them? You gotta let your

1292
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: man go by yourself. Did your underground thing? Did you

1293
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: got that? Let's go? How did you think of masters

1294
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,560
Speaker 1: and mctinn. That's that's a good one. That was a

1295
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: good one. I got another book, Take your shots first

1296
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: of we're going in, going in. Okay, y'all ready, it's

1297
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 1: a very good one. Snoop Dog, it's gonna be snoop

1298
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: all right now? Or bust the rhynd? Wow you it's okay.

1299
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: It's called those two niggas are the two illest niggas.

1300
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: Ever ever ever from their respective coasts. So that's that.

1301
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: Let Yeah, you don't gotta take crazy goofore. I was

1302
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: telling this nigga all day, I've only drinking shot. It's okay,

1303
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: but this is the Yeah, watermelon, Yeah, that's my favorite.

1304
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: By the way, no choice choice. That's like saying, yeah,

1305
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: it's a shot, it's a shot, it's a shot. Yeah,

1306
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: it's a shot. That was that was that I got

1307
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: to take a crazy shot. That was the only clear

1308
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: no answer. Yeah yeah, yeah, because I can't. I could,

1309
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: I could lean, I could lean one way or another

1310
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: for but this one, I'm super not show you want

1311
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: to say, but I'm await for your taking shot because

1312
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: that's the way the game goes. Spice one or mac

1313
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: dre Spice one. Spice one is my home. I haven't

1314
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: seen it a long time. You gotta just that's my dude, Like,

1315
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: that's my just smoke the pizza telling. One of the

1316
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: greatest moments ever, wasn't that nigga nas when he did

1317
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: that song whatever, the rap like autobiography song, and he

1318
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: was like, nigger, when you have a son when he's

1319
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: ten year old, ten years old, make him listen to

1320
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:30,600
Speaker 1: Spice one. I was like, that's so super article Go

1321
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: because Ergo said, Yo, not only in my Virgo ground

1322
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: is Virgo Virgo Virgo ship vergood. Oh my god, Yo,

1323
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: your down down. And I was gonna say the man

1324
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: Kanye was over here beautifully talking about the Geminis. It's

1325
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: a thing between the Geminis and the verg Go because

1326
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 1: he did them, and I because he did say his

1327
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: favorite rapper wasn't Virgal. Yes, he did say that a

1328
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: little if he had a lot of favorite rappers. So

1329
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 1: the answer to that question, although Spice one is a

1330
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: great friend, I'm gonna say, just for influenced, influenced purposes. Hyah.

1331
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I said this is crazy this

1332
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: last question. Did day mc drake died. I'm in the club.

1333
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: The club has no stage. You could see everyone in

1334
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: their ball like you would see what this is area

1335
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: somewhere somewhere in this is the day he died. He

1336
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: might have I'm spitball and I'm not giving you the

1337
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: exact times, but let's say there's a couple of hours

1338
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: or maybe even a day before. Maybe he died that

1339
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: night and I had to show the next day after

1340
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't know. I knew how Bay Area motherfucker's

1341
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: gave it up. But I didn't know. No. On the

1342
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: night of the Hero Diet, so I'm on there's no stage,

1343
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm on the bar. I'm on top of the bar.

1344
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: I gotta do my five or six songs. It's like

1345
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: an after party or something. Every dude in the club

1346
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 1: just came up to me. It was just like it

1347
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: just was in my face. But it was a lot.

1348
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 1: But it was like I had today. It was like, yo, listen,

1349
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: they said to me, like this is the day. This

1350
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: is mc dray day. This is how they act. Just

1351
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: don't move like so like just don't like, don't be shot.

1352
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: So people was like, what's up north. Yeah, I'm like,

1353
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: oh ship, so I know what I'll just when they

1354
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: would have I'm like a party, but I want to

1355
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: say back. Drad didn't want to get into the differences

1356
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: between l A in the Bay Area. But I had

1357
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: never seen underground rapper because obviously a new little about

1358
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: mac dray, but I think he was about the blow

1359
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: right before he he was just I went I did

1360
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: my research, I go back and I was like wow,

1361
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: but I had never other than fifty I had never

1362
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: seen an underground rapper half his city on a lot

1363
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: the way he had it on a lot o man.

1364
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: He described that for people who have never been in

1365
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, if you don't like like mac drey

1366
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: is a religion, it is. And you know, shout out

1367
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: to ray Love. You know they got the just like

1368
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: we got the sho Neil. You know they got the

1369
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: mac drey Beard is doing very well. Yeah, mcdrey is.

1370
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's okay. So anybody that's not from

1371
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: the Bay you've heard him, like you said, is doing that.

1372
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: So you know, there was the Hifee movement in the

1373
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 1: way that you act hi Fee. The Hifee movement was

1374
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: everybody emulating mac drake. Me. Yeah, it's like the whole

1375
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: just the I can't even I can't even explain it.

1376
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: But mac dre was just mc drey, I don't like, Okay.

1377
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: The only thing that I could could maybe help you

1378
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 1: explain that that maybe seemed like it if you remember

1379
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: back in the day. And I can only imagine, but

1380
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: it felt like when slick Rick came into building, he

1381
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,719
Speaker 1: was a slick rick and it was only a slick

1382
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: rick the way that he moved and he was just

1383
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: he was everything that New York Bronx whatever that was

1384
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It was slick Rick. That's what Mac

1385
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: Dreck was for us. And he and he was he

1386
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: was really it everything that he You know, remember he

1387
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: went he did what eight years on some ship and

1388
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: he never said nothing. And he came out, and you

1389
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: think about it. He come out and he's you know,

1390
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: his whole crew was bank robbers and killers and or whatever.

1391
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna come out and start doing the hardship.

1392
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: He came out party and clowning and pop pills and

1393
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: everything else, and he just he wanted he was having

1394
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: fun and he was like, he was like, I'm having fun,

1395
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: but I'll kill you everybody. The Genie and the Lamp album,

1396
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: that's the album with the Genie. If you want to

1397
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: get right to Mac Genie and the Lamp. That's It's

1398
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: not my job. It seems like y'all could just go

1399
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: platinum just staying in the bad is that it is?

1400
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: But you know, and and and I know this is

1401
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: the the sob story of every area. You know what

1402
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean. It's kind of like, you know, you have

1403
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: your culture, whether it's Miami to Bay or whatever. But

1404
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: then radio doesn't support it. They just played with with

1405
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 1: the with the mask whatever um In the Bay Area,

1406
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: we kind of for a long time we superseded that

1407
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: because we had a sound, we had a way, and

1408
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: so we didn't really get it from the radio. It

1409
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: seemed like the Bay led the underground independent. We started

1410
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: the independent movement. So if you get back to the independent,

1411
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: well I mean, I mean, let me let me, let

1412
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 1: me correct that because hip hop started as an independent.

1413
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: But once majors got involved in current time, you know

1414
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, like cats, they came up and we

1415
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: made our We did ourselves. It was it was a

1416
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: job made up selling out the trump pretty much, yeah,

1417
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: pretty much right and chops out of the be up

1418
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: for somebody. But he made chops. But he came out

1419
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. You know, I'm under saying that. What

1420
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying is he was following somebody else who was

1421
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: doing that same. It wasn't a family that owned the

1422
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: record store and the Richmond Richmond. I'm what I'm saying.

1423
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Mr p was living in the Bay he saw that's

1424
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: what that's what he got the idea the game. Independent

1425
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: got the game. So who was out there to be

1426
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: an independent prior to got the game from really really

1427
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: too short the first and let me add this, before that,

1428
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: before that, he was um what was it? Uh damn it.

1429
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: He had his own day, had their own label. So

1430
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: by the time Jive came, it was already it was

1431
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: already rocking um um young Black Brother Kyrie and them

1432
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: that had mcmaul and he did the first back dre

1433
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: stuff MC hammer Busted I think busted Busted Records was

1434
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: an independent lady game go through somebody from the West

1435
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: that's from Area J The biggest figure, I mean ship Paris. Okay,

1436
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: you know Yrold. You know Hayrold got signed. But they

1437
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: had a movement and they still got moment. What's the

1438
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: new dudes is popping in the bay right now? Mike

1439
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: to or little mikey TMB yeakey TMB Little Mike a

1440
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: little TMB. No one is the same. He goes widening

1441
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the rip. No, no, he from dB sapling. Okay, you

1442
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean, everyone opened, don't go no, no,

1443
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing you said trying to rip. But that

1444
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's old. Come on, we got to drive.

1445
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Let me tell you about

1446
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: little Mikey. You know what I mean, he certified. I

1447
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: know nor like this from the streets. I'm not gonna

1448
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 1: tell you what he did, but you know, just just

1449
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: because he's instance, you know, he's independent, independent, but you

1450
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you know he's been I

1451
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: don't know, shot like five times. You know, it came

1452
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 1: out of Commas and all that ship. But but you

1453
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: know he you know, he already's done songs with them

1454
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 1: cast but a little Mikey TMB. Yeah, what do you

1455
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: like more independent of major right now? Independently and you know,

1456
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 1: and let me the segue, you know, because that's why

1457
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm into you. Are you familiar with the n f

1458
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: T space right right? Obviously I heard about it. I'm not.

1459
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: And we're getting into it though. Yeah, you have to

1460
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: write and that's and that's and that's you reclaiming your

1461
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: independence because you don't need anybody but your core family,

1462
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: the infrastructure of the industry. Yeah, you know, because if

1463
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: you can take a picture right now. Yeah, and I'm

1464
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 1: part of a company started an n f T agency

1465
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: to help pull people through like you, like, I don't

1466
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: know much about it, you know, show you how to

1467
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: get a wallet, how to set up, get a smart

1468
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: contract and all of that just seems like a scam.

1469
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 1: Like niggas was selling like waters, but it's not. Everybody

1470
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: is down with like baby right now, like everybody can sell.

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01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,760
Speaker 1: That's what understand. Well, the thing well, I always said

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01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: that it would level out. You know it was. It

1473
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: was bullshit. You know, motherfucker's selling a picture of a

1474
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 1: rocking bottom hella pixelated. But you know, an n f T,

1475
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: you know it can be. It can be a digitized

1476
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: picture or or something physical like a collectible. Because we

1477
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: we're doing so the New Money Being Young Hump record

1478
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: will be an n f T. But with it as

1479
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: an n f T, we're gonna mint it and it

1480
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: has four different mixes, but we're gonna enable um the

1481
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: people that are part of our community that by the

1482
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: n f T to be able is going to be

1483
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: from fifty to a hundred and some different versions that

1484
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: you could match the record right, and the top winners

1485
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: can actually own the stems of the record and you

1486
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: get original art. But then you own the n f T.

1487
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: It allows you to purchase obviously you get the album, right,

1488
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 1: but to purchase anything. Diggerund a round we put out

1489
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: after that, so you know the whole n f T space,

1490
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:33,320
Speaker 1: crypto metaverse. You know, it's it's game of five. You

1491
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: said two important things that that I think people understand. One,

1492
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: all the work that you put into to make the

1493
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 1: n f T special. Most people understand that, right. Yeah,

1494
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: you put out bullshit. It's just like do you want

1495
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: to do you want to flash in the pan and

1496
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: try to hit them like you can make it. You

1497
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 1: can make you can make a million dollars right now,

1498
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: a one time hit and then people buy it and

1499
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: then figure out your bullshit, or you can make three

1500
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the next of tea community. Which is

1501
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 1: the other thing is that people understand that n f

1502
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: T thing right now is still a community basis it is,

1503
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 1: so you have to support them by it. You have

1504
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: to support them in order to be supported. Right. So

1505
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: for for me, we have create an FT that's our agency.

1506
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Right So for people like you guys, help you aboard

1507
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: not just artists and create y c R the number

1508
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: eight n f T and um, look it's right now

1509
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: feeling cool the artist that we on board. But it's

1510
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: really about bringing black and brown people into the space.

1511
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times with anything. It's not

1512
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: it's not magic or voodoo. It's just about learning how

1513
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: to do it. You're saying, I don't know much about it, bro.

1514
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: I can sit down and help you set up a wallet,

1515
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: tell you you know, you know, put you with a

1516
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: guy so that you understand everything about what you do.

1517
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,679
Speaker 1: So it's not just you putting your anime on something

1518
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: and you having ownership and seeing it through, because the

1519
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is leave it up

1520
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 1: to motherfucker count your money for you and bring it

1521
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: back to you. But with an n f T, it's

1522
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: all at your fingertips to own and to control yourself. Yeah.

1523
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: So we so we're doing the next money being young

1524
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Hump singles called it up, funk it up. We're doing it.

1525
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: We have the single is going to be an n

1526
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: FT but we have an album. But if you get

1527
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: the single, if you buy the n f T, you

1528
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: get the album right then. Right after that, we're working

1529
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: on some new digital underground music as well for versus

1530
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: laying around. We do what I'm saying, and we got

1531
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: music so and and and for all people. Um, um

1532
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: right now, shot he got to record out right now.

1533
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: Um Yeah, it's um with the solo piano group. So

1534
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: he read on the on the piano he remade to

1535
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: Zion by Lauren Hill, and it's solo piano group. That's

1536
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. The nigga has a solo piano

1537
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 1: going out right now. You know what you know in

1538
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: the official jazz nigga's respect his piano work like mood

1539
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: music and and and um, you know about that type

1540
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 1: of music music he had no no, no, no, I

1541
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: don't even know. I don't want no fie relaxation music.

1542
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: So and Gregory, who's producer he has he has um

1543
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: is solo piano group. And you know it's black owned,

1544
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: black artists the only ones that's doing it. But shock

1545
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: g right now go check it out to Zion, it's

1546
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: him rocking. That's your girl, your girl, that's our people's Yeah,

1547
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: we wanted she flew out. We got some real quick

1548
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 1: that I got something shows about giving people their flowers.

1549
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah you gotta, yeah, you gotta give We got right there,

1550
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 1: Oh my God, to thank God. And right like I said,

1551
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: you know beautiful, I'm gonna tell you all, you gotta

1552
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: check out that because if you really want to know,

1553
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: like the solo shot g check out this this this

1554
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: new record solo piano group, because that's what he was.

1555
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: He was a he. He wouldn't he couldn't walk by

1556
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: a piano without sitting down and playing it. The piano man,

1557
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 1: he was the piano that was that was his His

1558
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: soul came through to the to the piano. So that's

1559
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: what it is. And I don't think that not just

1560
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: me and young Hump wouldn't be sitting here, but there's

1561
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,280
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of artists that wouldn't

1562
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: be around of a lock. It's a huge tree that

1563
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: grew from the underground. I'm not even talking about just

1564
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 1: in the ground people. I'm talking about in the industry

1565
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: because he wasn't afraid to you know, he brought it

1566
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: to me. He brought something to the industry that wasn't

1567
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: there before. That's all I'm saying. Interlude called the Humpty

1568
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: Dance Awards. You type in Digital Underground the Humpty Dance Awards,

1569
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 1: and it is the interlude that's talking about all the

1570
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 1: different songs that sampled the drums alone for like like

1571
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: old school. Remember you've got to live name digital on

1572
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 1: the ground. That sample Dumpty Dance suck you up name

1573
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: three songs. That's help can't trust it my publican Mama

1574
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: said not you out lll coo jail. That was sampling.

1575
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 1: That's the public that called the name was getting done.

1576
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: It was the third one. I mean, goddamn it, let's

1577
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: let's what's the third one? Those sample that there has

1578
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 1: to be way more than that. It's like those are

1579
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: those are like like you look, you said you never

1580
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:20,759
Speaker 1: heard the Juice soundtrack. One of mine is don't be afraid?

1581
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: How's that ship? You drink? Mama? You drink the rock?

1582
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna send that wrong. I'm wait good beer.

1583
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: By the way, What else is man? There's some records

1584
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: that it's some other ones, but that's like one of

1585
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: the most famous Hemp Dan simples right like that ship

1586
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: is not It is one of the twenty years like

1587
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: top toppy years younger no hip hop song still using

1588
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 1: in Geico commercial probably all right ship? You know what

1589
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean ste rocking Um. It's one of the once

1590
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 1: so um how many people finger pop? I get around? Okay,

1591
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I get around this song? Who Got Pregnant here is?

1592
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 1: That was like that was like the first BT I'm

1593
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: cutting here, be honest with you, at night, going there

1594
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 1: at night? What you gonna just come out? I'll get

1595
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: around video a little bit barrass three video nice Sorry,

1596
01:40:42,080 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 1: he'll like, hell yeah, we won't keep it. Let me

1597
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: ask you a questions than a two question. That's the same.

1598
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: How many how many? How many females were you messing

1599
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: with in that video? Because I mean, we're gonna say

1600
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: how many young ladies? I'm a I'm asking comfortable. Well,

1601
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the whole story. So one, it was

1602
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: two parts video, right right? So eating Okay, So from

1603
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: fact to check. That's besagey money in the hot top.

1604
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: That's the check from the rex in the facts video

1605
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 1: the body, Well I want to do with zoom anyway,

1606
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 1: Say you know we're shooting video, shooting break, you know,

1607
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: thirty minute break, twenty minute break? Where film that in Malibu?

1608
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 1: I'm something to tell you. So every time, yes, every

1609
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: time there was a break, sninker Pocke was pulling somebody.

1610
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: He was so he knocked off like six races that day.

1611
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: And the thing he was, he was, he was hot.

1612
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: He was hot. Shout out what even? But but I

1613
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: would I would say better, I would say almost better

1614
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: than that is that house was owned by his Ethiopian woman.

1615
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: She's in the video in the tennis court scene. White,

1616
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 1: she's the opening, but white, she's brown, brown, brown, brown brown,

1617
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 1: and not really and it comes to the colonizers. Then

1618
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 1: did it come that shot? Shot jumped on that. So

1619
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: he had the house. The house was like, well, who

1620
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 1: did you? Who'd you think about? Here's so, here's the thing.

1621
01:42:57,280 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: It was the best day of my life in the words,

1622
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: day of my life story now because because it was

1623
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: one of the funniest days up to that in my

1624
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 1: life to that point. We just had fun that day

1625
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 1: Victoria's secret perfume. It was super fun. We have fun, right,

1626
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: So I should remember like a digital underground video, like

1627
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: like the extension of what it was. It was a party.

1628
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:27,799
Speaker 1: We forgot we're shooting video doing it. So I remember

1629
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:30,560
Speaker 1: at the end of it. Now mind you. That was

1630
01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: the second single off strictly for my niggas. The first

1631
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: one was Hall of You Hearing Me Big Stretch and

1632
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: that was right that that that single tank right, So

1633
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: but it was in the mixtape scene. It was crazy, yeah,

1634
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: but Pop was mad because because it wasn't the album

1635
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: wasn't selling. Now, I had told Pop before the record

1636
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 1: came out. I was like, I'm not saying it because

1637
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 1: I'm on it. I said, this should be your your single.

1638
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I know, my big stretch, you know, because Pop was loyal,

1639
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: like that stretch was this guy. So that was gonna

1640
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: be the single. When we shot the video, Pop was

1641
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: he was blaming Interscope that the record was sucked up.

1642
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: That's when he went off on them, right, but it

1643
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 1: was sucked up because it was just sucked up. The

1644
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 1: single wasn't was a moment. So I remember asking Pop.

1645
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: I was like, because because we had always we just

1646
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: running around. We edited our own videos for the most

1647
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 1: part because we knew what we wanted. Because I was like, Pop,

1648
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: make sure you get this thing, get this thing and

1649
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: get this scene or whatever. If I was like, man

1650
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 1: sucking the scope at the end of it, I get around,

1651
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 1: like this record. You know, he was mad he didn't

1652
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 1: get at the end of filming it. In the filming

1653
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 1: and record, he was like this record after we at

1654
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: the end of the day of shooting, I get around.

1655
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: He was not feeling Interscope. He was just saying fuck them.

1656
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: He didn't like, he didn't he didn't care what happened

1657
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: with the video. It was just like I want to

1658
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 1: get past everything. He's wanted to get past it. And

1659
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: so when I'm leaving, I'm like, well, if this video

1660
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: shows half the fund that we had today, we're gonna

1661
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: be all right. And that was that. But back to

1662
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 1: your question. There's a lot of breezies there and I'm like,

1663
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: all right, cool, what we're doing tonight, we're supposed to

1664
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: We're supposed to We're supposed to go do it right.

1665
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I think I had like two or three of like, Okay, yeah,

1666
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to maybe at the whatever the club

1667
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 1: was the thing because we were staying in Hollywood. I'm like,

1668
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 1: all right, I'll meet you there, go back to the hotel.

1669
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: About to get dressed. I was like, ah, like a hotel.

1670
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: Hotel was okay, Montreal, Okay, you know it was in

1671
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: that area. Okay cool. When the cool people say okay, cool,

1672
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: it was all I know is I laid down like okay,

1673
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 1: let me lay that out for a second. Woke up.

1674
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 1: It was the morning. I was like, oh, you lost

1675
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: it off. And one bad video to that video was yeah.

1676
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I was like like like like I feel like Nellie's

1677
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: chip Trill. That video A lot of people beat that video.

1678
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: You know what's beautiful about it was that Poker left,

1679
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 1: not left, he started his own career and he came

1680
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 1: back and got you absolutely because because you know that

1681
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 1: I get around beat. Shock made that for a digital

1682
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: underground that it felt like a digital underground record. We

1683
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 1: were we were riding around with that beat for like

1684
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 1: six months, but we knew it was was dope, but

1685
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 1: we were scared. Nobody wanted to suck it up, so

1686
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: he was like, ah, So then Shot gave the beat

1687
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 1: to Sefia had it for the summer and then I

1688
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: think pok approach. Shot was like, yo, I gotta turn

1689
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: in my own October and the Shock was like, man,

1690
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: this is one beat that we all got, but nobody

1691
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,240
Speaker 1: did take that one. That's the that's the latest one.

1692
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: Everybody like he took that beat and the next thing

1693
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, he turned around and asked us to be

1694
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 1: on it and Tupac shocks verse on their Tupac wrote

1695
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,759
Speaker 1: that verse. Oh sure you hear that? Everybody? Shock wrote

1696
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: that verse. Tupac, you really are shocked you right now.

1697
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm mad he got don't but imagine wrong work. But

1698
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm on the point now, like I'm Tupac sitting there

1699
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:44,560
Speaker 1: everybody in TV land. Imagine Tupacs saying, I'm shock g

1700
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 1: the one who put the satin in the patties. Tell

1701
01:47:51,439 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 1: him you just he's like reading carnate like you don't

1702
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: know how much he's getting shot right now, Virgosa, it

1703
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 1: was taking He missed the whole thing. Half of digital

1704
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: on the ground. Is no two thirds of digital around Virgos,

1705
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: your Virgo Virgo see their birthday. Yeah, I'm gonna little

1706
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: litle crazy, little crazy, I know, let me, let me,

1707
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: let me break down something for you. Because us coming

1708
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:34,520
Speaker 1: from the East Coast, right, we always looked at California

1709
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: as being just one king glomer It wasn't until we

1710
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 1: actually got out there that we realized a late is

1711
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: one thing in itself, and it's it's entirety. And then

1712
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 1: the Bay Area is a whole planet planet. I was

1713
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,439
Speaker 1: gonna say the world. But for people that have never

1714
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 1: traveled to California, can you describe the two different and

1715
01:48:54,360 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 1: the differences? This is without like to explain to people, Uh,

1716
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 1: if you've never been to California, like people from the

1717
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 1: East Coast, you know you got North Carolina, New York, Baltimore,

1718
01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: all that ship. You can just drive to that ship

1719
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:12,600
Speaker 1: like eight hours if you start in or if you

1720
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,800
Speaker 1: leave Tiana, or if you're in San Diego. From San

1721
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: Diego to drive to the border borders to Mexico. Like

1722
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 1: the very bottom of California, if you drive to the

1723
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 1: very top of California, it would take you twenty two

1724
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 1: hours to California border. No, no, it's Washington. After that,

1725
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 1: it's you twenty two hours from the bottom of California

1726
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 1: to the top to drive. So you if you if

1727
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: you put California on the east coast, that's Maine, New York, Philly,

1728
01:49:52,840 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 1: Baltimore out but two hours and and I've been being

1729
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: conservatives because I think you want to google it. Somebody

1730
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: google it. I'm being a conservatives, but you understand what

1731
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's a long state. So l A

1732
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: and in the Bay is now with how we drive

1733
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: seven hours right to the bay six seven hours and

1734
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,719
Speaker 1: been around you drive if you leave it the valley,

1735
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 1: it could be six. I've done it in five. I

1736
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: always tell people the Bay has more in common with

1737
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 1: Chicago than it does with l A. Just it's just

1738
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: it's not the same. But what do what do they

1739
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: have in common with Chicago. Just it's just a different vibe,

1740
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: like like I don't know, I can't explain it, Like

1741
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,559
Speaker 1: we don't dress like that, we don't have their same culture.

1742
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 1: It's just different, very different. So when the person from

1743
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: l A comes and they and they're banging, they got

1744
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 1: all blue one and they got what is the reaction

1745
01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 1: from my person? And that's phone? Is they accepting that?

1746
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: On the bay? Yeah, were you banging on? Yeah? That

1747
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: was no ban Yeah we have we have Norano. So

1748
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 1: this game off rip everybody, Hey like what a blood?

1749
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 1: What a blood? And they on their base ship like blood.

1750
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 1: So my Bay niggers come to l A and they'd

1751
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: be like blood, blood, blood, and other Niggers be like

1752
01:51:24,920 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 1: what you say? You know, yeah, I had a problem

1753
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 1: with that when I first st going. It was it

1754
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: was it was in my my my my vocabulary because

1755
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 1: we just say blood like young blood, and you would

1756
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: say that to a crypt I would just say it,

1757
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It didn't mean anything, like

1758
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:48,839
Speaker 1: it's just like like well says in the same sentence

1759
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 1: that not going the book. They said that, Yeah, it

1760
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. First I was going to l A

1761
01:51:56,479 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: and you yeah, I was in my nigga. I was

1762
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: in um so this is like eighty six. I came

1763
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: down to l A. Yeah this yeah it's real. Yeah yeah.

1764
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: Before I'm out there and my cousin was getting married

1765
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:19,120
Speaker 1: out there, and I went to Slawson swap me right.

1766
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: And my guy he was from Oakland but he had

1767
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 1: moved l A. And he took you out there and

1768
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, you get to sweatsuits, mate, but it was

1769
01:52:29,840 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: and you could buy the goat, get your name plate,

1770
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: all that ship. And it was always like the Asian

1771
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: vietnameese's that was selling this ship. So I going up,

1772
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: tell him to put put money be on my ship

1773
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: and you walk around the mall, you buy, then you

1774
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 1: go back. So when I'm bartering with the guy, like

1775
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 1: getting the price that I want. Sorry, And so when

1776
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 1: I when I go pick it up, he's like, you

1777
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 1: tell your friends. And I was like, yeah, yeah, back,

1778
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: you tell your friends. I how you do? I said,

1779
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 1: all right, blood, I'm told you. I said it loud though,

1780
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 1: and I got a tall can. I mean, they're just

1781
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: not even tripping. My friend was like Atlas, he's at

1782
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: the at the slaw Yeah. My friend was like, we

1783
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: should leave now I was like, why everybody was frozen

1784
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 1: than the motherfucker because they hear that they never heard

1785
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: anybody to use that. Man. I was like, all right,

1786
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 1: let's going happened. Nothing happened, but then it happened to

1787
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: me like one or two other times. So then you

1788
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 1: fast forward to maybe I told you we came from

1789
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: We came from out of the n w A camp.

1790
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 1: So I just happened to be sliding through l A

1791
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: A trin out of house down there and he's like, oh, yeah,

1792
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: Easy wants you to come to this video. Y'all new

1793
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 1: Hoop above the Law. And I met him before. He's like,

1794
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 1: come by the video shoot see yeah, yeah, they were

1795
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:05,680
Speaker 1: shooting murder rap. Now I got a murder room. They

1796
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 1: were shooting that video that day, and it was like,

1797
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: they want you to come by, And you know, I

1798
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: had to self evaluate because I was like, wait a minute,

1799
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: I think I say blood too much because I don't

1800
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 1: I knew I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew

1801
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: Easy was from some kryption, but I don't know what

1802
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: everybody else is. And I know that it was just

1803
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 1: in my vocabulary at the time. That's just how I talked.

1804
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not gonna be there, be

1805
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 1: on set and some like you know, if you're there,

1806
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 1: one of your other guys that want to get points

1807
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 1: with you, he shouldn't said it. Yeah, yeah, So I

1808
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 1: was like, I wait this one out because I didn't

1809
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: want to, yeah be around there with my vocabulary. But

1810
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: I love how you slipped. How slipped like you knowing

1811
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: easy eat? How was it? I never bet easy eat either,

1812
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 1: so easy? So how was it? He was a character?

1813
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 1: He was he was. He was short too, right, just

1814
01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 1: slightly taller. Yeah, but he was. He was. He was.

1815
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 1: He was. He was a beast, funny dude, and he

1816
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,360
Speaker 1: was giving you too. He was hardcore as well. Seem

1817
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: like a good person, I mean he was. He really

1818
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 1: did want to help a lot of people, and he

1819
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: did help a lot of people. He was a good dude,

1820
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: but he was. He was funny, always had jokes like

1821
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 1: I would always help people. Me and me and Pop

1822
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: in the room. All we did was talking about each

1823
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 1: other's mother clown and just that was cool at the

1824
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 1: time to ship. The jokes ain't cool nor more back

1825
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: in then, A little bit, just a little bit, we

1826
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: used to do that. Ship is a sense of she

1827
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: did me easy. Yeah. Yeah, Look, he's like tell that

1828
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 1: story please. All right. So remember I said we came

1829
01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: from INNT, so we knew n W A so pop NEWW.

1830
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 1: But we did the song with Above the Law call

1831
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 1: call it what you want? You know that song. And

1832
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: we were doing a show at I don't know if

1833
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 1: you remember the R and B there was you know,

1834
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: you remember you had the Gavin magazine, the college radio magazines.

1835
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:20,000
Speaker 1: There was an R and B something. Anyway, they all

1836
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: had the conventions convention in l A. And we're performing

1837
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: there and we're in the elevator. So this is right

1838
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: around the time that Um easy, Andre are they're breaking up.

1839
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 1: This is the death Row ship happening, right, and so

1840
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a little tense because you know, you don't

1841
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: know who you're gonna run into. Me. I'm from Oaklan,

1842
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 1: my own cano that ship. I was just like, whatever,

1843
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: I am, I here to do a show. But we're

1844
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 1: in the elevator coming down and the conversation comes up

1845
01:56:52,600 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: as me, um easy, tupac hutch uh go back, this

1846
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: is Above the Law chaos. And he's like, yeah, you know,

1847
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: motherfucker's easy. He's like, yeah, these niggers want to pull up,

1848
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: and so he pulls out his gun. Right, this is easy.

1849
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, niggas, you know what I mean. He

1850
01:57:15,960 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 1: put out his gun about death like whoever there was me?

1851
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know who he's talking about. I'm just

1852
01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:27,280
Speaker 1: like what right, So he's like, yeah, I got my ship.

1853
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: I got my ship too. It's like, you don't even

1854
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:35,000
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about. So in retrospect, TUPAC might

1855
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,840
Speaker 1: have dumped on death row. That's a funny part about it.

1856
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 1: So this is the thing. The elevator door, the elevator

1857
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 1: door opens, we walked out snigger. Warren G is walking

1858
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: past and he see easy and he see now yeah,

1859
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: yeah before before if people don't know Warren G before

1860
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 1: Dre because they're they're half brother, but before Dre even

1861
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 1: accepted I don't even let me change that. Before they

1862
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 1: got back together or they got together and did the music,

1863
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 1: Warren G was real tight with Above the Law, like

1864
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 1: they were doing that. Yeah, he was with them, you know,

1865
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 1: they was they was they was rocket, it was working.

1866
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 1: They were working together. So when all that ship happened,

1867
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: now Above the Law and Warren G see each other.

1868
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: Whatever that thing is that they do. And it was

1869
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 1: the first time that I ever heard somebody go he

1870
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 1: said something this long beach and I never heard nobody

1871
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: say this. And then something else after that, right, so

1872
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I never heard that. I was

1873
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what is what is he talking about?

1874
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 1: All right? But they was all ice grill and they

1875
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 1: was mad and it was just some ship. But the

1876
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: ironic thing about it is Park ends up on their

1877
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 1: phone and he was ready to shoot over over some

1878
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 1: shing he didn't even know about. He was just he

1879
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: was with easy. Yeah, you kind of parks mentality is

1880
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,839
Speaker 1: like I'm with you, let's go. Here's the thing. Tupac

1881
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 1: was raised to be a warrior, so he just had

1882
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: a warrior mentality. He always needed a battle to fight,

1883
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 1: so he was ready to battle. So he could meet you.

1884
01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: If y'all walked out together, he was gonna fight with you.

1885
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 1: He might not even know you will, but he's just

1886
01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: like what you know, if he walk out side by

1887
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: side with you, then you like the incident with the

1888
01:59:36,680 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 1: cops when he saw home he was getting pulled over whatever, Yeah,

1889
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: when he shot the right but you know what I mean,

1890
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:48,680
Speaker 1: So the snicker, easy pulling out guns, just nicking Pop

1891
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: pulling out sh ready to do whatever. I don't even

1892
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 1: know what, but it's death Roth ironic. Where was you

1893
01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 1: at when you got the news that Pop was fatally killed?

1894
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: When he died? When he died, I was in Oakland

1895
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: and it was back Remember the Skytel two way pages.

1896
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 1: I had one of those, and I just kept getting

1897
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:15,800
Speaker 1: messages alert yeah you know what I mean, A bunch

1898
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 1: of them. And I was like, what you know, in

1899
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: back then you had to go to to the to

1900
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 1: the to the to the pay phone calling it back,

1901
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:28,080
Speaker 1: and I was like the fuck. And it wasn't until

1902
02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 1: my mom hit me at some because we didn't have

1903
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: Twitter back then, so you couldn't confirm it like it

1904
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 1: was just pretty much room was when he was hitting you. Yeah,

1905
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 1: when it was all happening, I didn't even here. I

1906
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 1: wasn't even I didn't hear anything. I just kept getting

1907
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:50,480
Speaker 1: pages and then my mom hit me, and then I

1908
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: had to getting emotional. So I had when I called

1909
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: my mother and she was the one that told me

1910
02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: it was and she she had got the information and

1911
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 1: she knew okay, she knew he got shot, she knew

1912
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: he passed, well, he had already got shot. He was

1913
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 1: in the hospital. She knew that he passed right, uh,

1914
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 1: and you you had to spoke to him how long

1915
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: at that time since the last time I've seen him

1916
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: in the club, and that's when he was with digital

1917
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 1: or that's he's making his trail went to jail. It

1918
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:27,320
Speaker 1: was after he was it was after all eyes on me, okay.

1919
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 1: So so if he passed in September, I had seen

1920
02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 1: him that July in the club. Who was in the

1921
02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 1: club at the house and Blues in l A at July?

1922
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 1: Did you we did? Did you sorry? Did you ever look?

1923
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:46,600
Speaker 1: From a distantance? I think worried for him all the time.

1924
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 1: We all were even like you know, I tell you,

1925
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 1: even Hutch from buggal Law he would call him from

1926
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: her He was like, bro, you your boy here whiling out.

1927
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, because for lack of a better term,

1928
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:03,920
Speaker 1: like you were saying that the Bay Area don't gang bang.

1929
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: So for him to go from one extreme, you know

1930
02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, to go to a whole totally different extreme,

1931
02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 1: that had to be extreme, I imagine because it wasn't

1932
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 1: like he was starting out getting jumped in or anything

1933
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:19,520
Speaker 1: like that. He started to the top. Yeah, he went

1934
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: from you know, the Bay Area kid teenager to grown man.

1935
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he ever claimed blood. I

1936
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 1: know it seemed like he wore red knack red bandanas

1937
02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 1: a little more than he than he wore. But but

1938
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 1: that had to be like a shock it because, like

1939
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:41,040
Speaker 1: I said, like, that's the one thing that stood out

1940
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,240
Speaker 1: to me in the Bay was there was no gang

1941
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: banging in the Bay So for him to go from that,

1942
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: it's it's like, I'm sorry, I might be a little

1943
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 1: bit all over the place. But the other day I

1944
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,280
Speaker 1: was walking around right and I had my headphones on

1945
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:55,440
Speaker 1: and Tupac songs came back to back, and I said

1946
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 1: this before on the show. One of the songs was

1947
02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 1: ain't nothing like the Old School where he's breaking down.

1948
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 1: He's breaking down New York City in a way that

1949
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,960
Speaker 1: you have to really be from New York City to

1950
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 1: appreciate this record. Then guess what record comes on after that?

1951
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 1: California And I'm gonna leave this thing too talking about it.

1952
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,840
Speaker 1: This is another song we talked about the Mexicans Sother

1953
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Oranges on the Highway and it's just like I've never

1954
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:37,959
Speaker 1: seen that anywhere else, but in California, but he experienced

1955
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 1: it all. Like I remember, you know one time I

1956
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: went to New York and Pop took me to uh

1957
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 1: was it in Washington? His cousin, you know, Shokazoolu, right,

1958
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Shakazolu was standing. That's his cousin. Okay, what's Shatkazoolu? Chris Manager, Okay, yeah,

1959
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:03,360
Speaker 1: really that's part because that so I'm at. Shaka when

1960
02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 1: he was living was half French. Not cool, that's what

1961
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:14,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna say. He might be anyway what I'm saying,

1962
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 1: but you know, shock was I mean, I'm sorry. Tupac

1963
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:21,520
Speaker 1: was was very proud of his New York groups. So

1964
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: he never shied away from it or dispelled it or

1965
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 1: tried to ignore it. He did not know. He didn't.

1966
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 1: He just said it was like where he was at.

1967
02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:34,880
Speaker 1: So so let me let me, let me let me

1968
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 1: further explain. It's because left, he left, he left the

1969
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 1: Bay and he went to l A. Like you said,

1970
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,240
Speaker 1: all this live in dian l A. The nigga in

1971
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 1: the barry was mad, like he was like, this is

1972
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 1: going down in l A And I like, what are

1973
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: you talking about? Because it was two different cultures, right

1974
02:04:55,520 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, bro, you can't. Nobody can can

1975
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: claim Tupac like that because he was He grew up

1976
02:05:05,160 --> 02:05:10,480
Speaker 1: not having anything, and he was shuttled around his entire life.

1977
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:15,520
Speaker 1: He had to go. He started the Bronx to living

1978
02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: with cousins natist aout New York, then the Baltimore got

1979
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 1: shipped out to more In City. Then he came to Oakland.

1980
02:05:22,120 --> 02:05:25,400
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't owe any of those places anything,

1981
02:05:26,040 --> 02:05:28,720
Speaker 1: and so he only he spoke about where he was

1982
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:32,480
Speaker 1: because he was not emotional about wherever he was at

1983
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: and whatever he was dealing with. So you know, I mean,

1984
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. When I first to live hit

1985
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 1: me a little bit, but then I thought about I

1986
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:47,000
Speaker 1: was like, whatever I want to us, second to us.

1987
02:05:48,040 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 1: When you when they say l A, we're so stupid

1988
02:05:50,520 --> 02:05:52,800
Speaker 1: from the East Coast, We're thinking they're talking about the bear.

1989
02:05:55,600 --> 02:05:58,760
Speaker 1: His name is in the bag still mad. Yeah, right,

1990
02:05:58,880 --> 02:06:01,040
Speaker 1: So think about that. So if he would have said

1991
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 1: to live and die in California, it would have been

1992
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 1: something different. And and another thing, well, he made California love.

1993
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you know whatever. Another thing to

1994
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 1: add a lot of people don't know is when he

1995
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: was filming all those movies in l A. He was

1996
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:17,520
Speaker 1: living in l A. So a lot of niggas perceived

1997
02:06:17,560 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 1: it like he joined death row. Now we live in

1998
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 1: l A. But he was living in l A in

1999
02:06:21,800 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: the years he moved to l A, l A. He

2000
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:27,680
Speaker 1: moved to l A. He was the first one. He

2001
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 1: moved to l A, like ninety three, like right like

2002
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: when when um we did I get around? He was

2003
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 1: already living in l A. Because when when we recorded

2004
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: that song, he sent the two inch RILs up And

2005
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: that's why he wrote. That's why he wrote Shot. When

2006
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 1: he wrote verses for me and Shot in case we

2007
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't have time, he just wanted us on the song.

2008
02:06:47,840 --> 02:06:50,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't. That's how pop was. He just wanted

2009
02:06:50,080 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 1: to get it done, so he wanted to make it

2010
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 1: as easy as possible. Shot just happened to use the verse.

2011
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 1: I didn't use the verse that he wrote for me.

2012
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: But he was already living in l A. So he

2013
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: was living down there for a while. But it was

2014
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: because Hollywood career. He was doing movies. He was he

2015
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:13,360
Speaker 1: was getting money, you know, his offers were his offers

2016
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: drew him, you know, his business drew him to be there.

2017
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a serious question. Do you think

2018
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:25,640
Speaker 1: if you think if he didn't go to death Row,

2019
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 1: who would still be alive? Uh, it's hard to deciding.

2020
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if you would ask me, well, this is

2021
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 1: what i'd say about that, I'll say that that that

2022
02:07:42,120 --> 02:07:48,040
Speaker 1: environment didn't help him, right and so, But I'll also

2023
02:07:48,120 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 1: add this. I remember when when Atroan was first talking

2024
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 1: about signing to Potty, right, so mind you, this is

2025
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:11,040
Speaker 1: maybe eighty nine ish whatever it was, or maybe he

2026
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 1: was already signed. But we were on a plane and

2027
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:19,160
Speaker 1: he was like, so, what should you think about Pop?

2028
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 1: You think he you know, you think I got you

2029
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 1: think we got something? And jokingly, mind you, I said, joking,

2030
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, if he stayed alive long enough, I'll

2031
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 1: never forget saying that. I said that because he was

2032
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 1: a while knit it. So maybe if it didn't happen

2033
02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 1: that way, I can't say that it wouldn't happen another way.

2034
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:45,160
Speaker 1: I can't. We don't know, like because I don't know

2035
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 1: if if that didn't happen, he gets into a domestic

2036
02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:56,200
Speaker 1: dispute and somebody shoots, not even if with a cop,

2037
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: like you said, it could have been a different kind

2038
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 1: of on He would have been on. He was just

2039
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:07,200
Speaker 1: on right, and he always he always spoke about his life.

2040
02:09:08,480 --> 02:09:11,480
Speaker 1: He would he would talk about things, and then you know,

2041
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:13,800
Speaker 1: because he used to talk about he would make records

2042
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 1: about going to jail before he went to jail, and

2043
02:09:16,120 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 1: then he made records about getting shot. And he start

2044
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 1: making boks about getting killed. And I'm like, bro, stop

2045
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 1: making them records. You feel me use you. I've always

2046
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: felt that with an artistry you speak kind of ye resistance.

2047
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's always like it's kind of like you know,

2048
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: I say, like Cypress Hill, they smoke weed. They always

2049
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:41,920
Speaker 1: talk about smoking weeds. So now everywhere they go people

2050
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:47,480
Speaker 1: give them weed. And and Viro has a lucrative need business,

2051
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:49,800
Speaker 1: which I'm into. We're talking about that. They tell him

2052
02:09:49,800 --> 02:09:51,280
Speaker 1: about how you had to get him the weed. He

2053
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,120
Speaker 1: wasn't cool if he didn't have his weed. Tell him that.

2054
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So I mean, y'all know pot right,

2055
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 1: I I don't know that, so you know what you said.

2056
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know he did. Part didn't. At least in

2057
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:17,640
Speaker 1: my opinion, Pop didn't smoke to get high, smoked to

2058
02:10:17,680 --> 02:10:21,880
Speaker 1: be normal, because he was just really high strunk so

2059
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,880
Speaker 1: much soul like gonna be on the road. Like if

2060
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:27,520
Speaker 1: he didn't have weed, he's just get on your nerves.

2061
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:31,000
Speaker 1: So now we go to cities, I'm looking for weed.

2062
02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't even smoke weed. I just want to get

2063
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 1: to him so you don't get on my nerves. So

2064
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 1: we're not fighting, right. So you know what's always in, uh,

2065
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean is a few stories. But I'll tell you

2066
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 1: who's in. Um St. Louis No, No, No, Louisville, Kentucky. Yeah,

2067
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:53,440
Speaker 1: it's the summertime. And I always say I'll talk about

2068
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 1: it in my book to my books. The book right

2069
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:59,000
Speaker 1: now is The hype Man, but it be out next year. Um.

2070
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 1: So I've got these chicks and I was like, y'all

2071
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:05,560
Speaker 1: know where it gets wheat. It was like, yeah, we

2072
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 1: can go. So we're going this hood summertime and this

2073
02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 1: motherfucker's on Now this is the early nineties. Crack is crazy.

2074
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:18,480
Speaker 1: So it's like ten motherfucker's on every corner. And they

2075
02:11:18,520 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: all black. It looked like a slave friends plantation. It

2076
02:11:21,760 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 1: was just looking he had their shirt off and all

2077
02:11:24,120 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 1: this ship and the chicks go into the house and

2078
02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 1: get the weed and then they come out and they're

2079
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:31,760
Speaker 1: like yo, as soon as they're getting the car, they

2080
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:34,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, I hope they didn't sell us no

2081
02:11:35,040 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 1: bad no fake weed. And it's like I said, what, oh,

2082
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: hell no, we're going back in and I'll said we're

2083
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 1: getting our weed and I'm looking around. I'm like, we're

2084
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 1: not going and he started going off. Luckily it was

2085
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 1: real weak. But if it wasn't, I don't know what

2086
02:11:56,400 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 1: we did, because it was we wasn't gonna leave there alive. Yeah,

2087
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: from what the Brazyes was talking about, I guess that's

2088
02:12:05,640 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 1: what it was. But yeah, man, you know, but so

2089
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm just saying that pop he needed

2090
02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:15,600
Speaker 1: weak and he you know, he's a been a component

2091
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 1: of it always without it, I'm sure he was getting it.

2092
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 1: Part of the game is it making the record or

2093
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:32,400
Speaker 1: performing the record equally? It's two different highs, right, so

2094
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 1: you you know, you make, you make a record, So

2095
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 1: it's your artists, your expression, you know what I mean,

2096
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:40,120
Speaker 1: This is how you this is how you really feel.

2097
02:12:40,600 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 1: You hope that people love it. But then when they do,

2098
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 1: when you're on stage and you get that energy coming

2099
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 1: back to you that you're putting off the same and

2100
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,560
Speaker 1: then you get it back, it's like bro as a

2101
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 1: high that you can't you can't even explain to people

2102
02:12:54,240 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: who don't get that hot, who don't who don't get

2103
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 1: to experience that. You know, if they're looking from the

2104
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: side eyelines, they're like, yeah, that's cool, but you know

2105
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: how that feels, especially when it's your art. If you

2106
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 1: were doing karaoke, it would be one thing, but you're

2107
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:11,200
Speaker 1: actually expressing the things that you thought you wrote. This

2108
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 1: is your feelings. They might not even know. You might

2109
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 1: be telling the heartfelt story, but it's an a dope beat.

2110
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,120
Speaker 1: They just rock into it. You don't give a fuck

2111
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,480
Speaker 1: because after the show, somebody would be like, I really

2112
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,200
Speaker 1: love that story. Guess what. I went through the same

2113
02:13:24,280 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 1: thing with my mom, And I'm sure you get that

2114
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 1: all the time with the music. And another thing that

2115
02:13:30,360 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 1: I'll dispel is that if you're creative, you never stopped creating.

2116
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 1: So let's get past this thing of you know, you're

2117
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 1: too old or your whatever, because we don't do that.

2118
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:48,600
Speaker 1: We don't do that with Keith Richards and and Mick Jaggery, right,

2119
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, so I don't give a yeah,

2120
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know if yeah, well yeah, it's a

2121
02:13:58,440 --> 02:14:01,320
Speaker 1: push to keep to keep people in these contracts that

2122
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:04,760
Speaker 1: the young people will sign, because when you get older,

2123
02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:06,560
Speaker 1: you get the way you're like, no, I don't want

2124
02:14:06,640 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 1: that contract. So now it's a young man of sports.

2125
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:10,600
Speaker 1: What they would tell you, right, that's what they would

2126
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:13,600
Speaker 1: tell you because now we but we but we also

2127
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:18,280
Speaker 1: know that hip hop is a youth is a youth movement.

2128
02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,600
Speaker 1: It came from a youth movement, a youthful energy. Tell

2129
02:14:21,640 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 1: you it's always going to be mostly that. But that

2130
02:14:24,040 --> 02:14:26,840
Speaker 1: doesn't mean like like I don't give a funk. I

2131
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:30,920
Speaker 1: don't give an what you say album if we if

2132
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,840
Speaker 1: this show is over and we're leaving, and no reason

2133
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:37,040
Speaker 1: in his car an adult be come on, he might

2134
02:14:37,240 --> 02:14:42,760
Speaker 1: think of him. But you know what I mean, you

2135
02:14:42,840 --> 02:14:44,680
Speaker 1: can't help it. It's just the other day. I ain't

2136
02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna lie you right the other day, just beat you

2137
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 1: started playing, I just started writing round. I caught myself

2138
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 1: like you were tied. Yeah, but but but but that's

2139
02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:56,600
Speaker 1: the thing. Why are you retired? Like, we don't tell

2140
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:59,680
Speaker 1: doctors to retire. They can still heal you no matter

2141
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:03,040
Speaker 1: how there. We don't tell artists that can paint to retire.

2142
02:15:03,840 --> 02:15:05,360
Speaker 1: We don't look at a penny and me like, how

2143
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 1: was he when he did that and then judge it

2144
02:15:08,240 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 1: on his hand? Nuts artist art. I agree with you,

2145
02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:14,400
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. But I tired myself though

2146
02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 1: not just like you touch your but you're not retired.

2147
02:15:18,480 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 1: Gon do let listen with with with the n f

2148
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:23,240
Speaker 1: T s. I'm gonna come back. I'm like, let's do

2149
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:25,360
Speaker 1: a drink, chaps n FT and you're gonna do a bar.

2150
02:15:26,320 --> 02:15:29,800
Speaker 1: Still do a verse you will? You will all know

2151
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 1: who you will verse Job Rule, just as he's seen

2152
02:15:33,080 --> 02:15:35,560
Speaker 1: me a fire record. I've been avoided that. You're gonna

2153
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:38,680
Speaker 1: do it, my brother, you just did ago. Yeah, y'all

2154
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:45,200
Speaker 1: still got bar. Big up to John Rule, my brother.

2155
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:48,120
Speaker 1: He crept into my d M after shock passed, a

2156
02:15:48,200 --> 02:16:01,480
Speaker 1: little crazy shot pass. Don't they go into your creeping

2157
02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:11,760
Speaker 1: motherfucking gen role respectfully with love came into my d

2158
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:14,640
Speaker 1: M after shot passed. That was like, Yo, condolences broke

2159
02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, you know what I mean. I was like, job,

2160
02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,680
Speaker 1: my motherfucking man, salute Job. I thought the love that

2161
02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:23,280
Speaker 1: shot guy was amazing and I thought it was well deserved,

2162
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, and salute to you on your

2163
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 1: first album on the change, you'd be like something haters

2164
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 1: Spipe for Spipe, I'm like, you know him all right.

2165
02:16:42,800 --> 02:16:45,440
Speaker 1: At my old encounters with shock G, it was me

2166
02:16:45,720 --> 02:16:49,160
Speaker 1: realizing more and more how much of a genius he

2167
02:16:49,440 --> 02:16:52,080
Speaker 1: was because I always looked at him like the party guy.

2168
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:54,480
Speaker 1: I never looked at him. I didn't know he was

2169
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:57,160
Speaker 1: producing this ship. I didn't know he was the orchestra.

2170
02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know all this. So again, like I said,

2171
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:06,880
Speaker 1: I actually thought shock G and Humpty were two different people,

2172
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:11,320
Speaker 1: like for real until like I actually, I'm not sure

2173
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:13,560
Speaker 1: if I wasn't gotten the music business, I would have

2174
02:17:13,640 --> 02:17:19,280
Speaker 1: ever discovered it, like I mean, because you know, but um, yeah,

2175
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:25,600
Speaker 1: him and Prodigy was probably the illest depths who Yeah,

2176
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like damn, I wish they would

2177
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: have got some of that love. But it was like,

2178
02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, like when he died, I just I just

2179
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:36,040
Speaker 1: it felt like God, bless God, bless me for saying this,

2180
02:17:36,400 --> 02:17:38,400
Speaker 1: But it felt like when Biggie died, like you know,

2181
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,440
Speaker 1: how much like love, like it was being shot at

2182
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:43,760
Speaker 1: because a lot of people. I knew that Big really

2183
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing to do with the negative ship that

2184
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 1: happened with Pop And when I get to see what

2185
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:52,640
Speaker 1: Prodigy and when I got to see it, what Shot.

2186
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 1: Those are two deaths that I really wish they would

2187
02:17:56,200 --> 02:18:00,120
Speaker 1: have seen, you know, half of that love like like

2188
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:02,840
Speaker 1: in real life. You know what I'm saying, So so

2189
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 1: so all right, I'm not sure because so so Shotky

2190
02:18:08,520 --> 02:18:10,000
Speaker 1: was the one who said that he wanted you to

2191
02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:13,080
Speaker 1: play him in the movie, regardless what movie it was.

2192
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a two part movie established at that time,

2193
02:18:15,879 --> 02:18:19,039
Speaker 1: or though um yeah it was, it was being developed,

2194
02:18:19,080 --> 02:18:21,959
Speaker 1: but you still gotta go in there and audition correct

2195
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:24,640
Speaker 1: or that his word was just no, no, no, he

2196
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:26,360
Speaker 1: was And I had to go in there and make

2197
02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:29,000
Speaker 1: it happen and shout out to my brother Eltie Hudton

2198
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:34,240
Speaker 1: for fighting me because I had no previous experience. Yeah,

2199
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:37,120
Speaker 1: n it was the first thing I auditioned for. So

2200
02:18:38,040 --> 02:18:39,640
Speaker 1: it was nervous a moment, and you know how the

2201
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:44,480
Speaker 1: game go. The casting agents forgive me my voice, part

2202
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 1: of me. But you know how the you know, the

2203
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:49,960
Speaker 1: casting people they looking out for people they have relationship.

2204
02:18:52,760 --> 02:18:57,320
Speaker 1: Ran over the door like yo, I gotta motherfucking submission,

2205
02:18:57,560 --> 02:18:59,560
Speaker 1: and they looking at me like the movie. They looking

2206
02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:02,360
Speaker 1: at me like is this thing? But ELTI hunting one

2207
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:05,120
Speaker 1: of the Realist brothers to walk the Earth, was like, Yo,

2208
02:19:05,240 --> 02:19:07,760
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is shocked, and no one could fade me.

2209
02:19:08,160 --> 02:19:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, mean, no one could fade what I did.

2210
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:14,520
Speaker 1: So you know I told you at the beginning, I

2211
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:19,160
Speaker 1: was a bad actor. Put me in that. And that's

2212
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 1: the thing with the movie. All eyes on me, a

2213
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,360
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know. A friend of mine said

2214
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,439
Speaker 1: it was like, you make a movie about Jesus, everybody's

2215
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna have an issue. To make a movie about Park,

2216
02:19:30,040 --> 02:19:35,360
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have an issue. That said, yeah, yeah, you

2217
02:19:35,680 --> 02:19:38,600
Speaker 1: know what it is with the pop movie? Now wou

2218
02:19:38,760 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 1: Netflix being so popular? It almost feel like the Pop

2219
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 1: Movie was supposed to be a series. It should have

2220
02:19:46,480 --> 02:19:53,199
Speaker 1: because yeah, we could have the Biggie movie came first, correct,

2221
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:55,280
Speaker 1: So that's what I think they were trying to do,

2222
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:59,360
Speaker 1: was trying to like compliment the Biggie Movie where Park happened.

2223
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:03,960
Speaker 1: The only didn't have hast so much more. There was

2224
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 1: so many layers and so much that that it couldn't

2225
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:09,440
Speaker 1: fit in two hours. It didn't fit. I'm gonna be

2226
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 1: honest with you. It didn't feel right. It didn't fit

2227
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:15,640
Speaker 1: everything that I liked the movie. I'm one of the

2228
02:20:15,720 --> 02:20:20,280
Speaker 1: five people that did I love, but I think it

2229
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:22,360
Speaker 1: could have been a way better. But everybody around me

2230
02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 1: always I don't know. Yeah, so I keep hearing that,

2231
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:28,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know how. I mean, I understand if

2232
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:31,000
Speaker 1: we could, if we could stretch it out. You know,

2233
02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:33,039
Speaker 1: you can't fit it on two hours. But the two

2234
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:36,600
Speaker 1: hours that you got is it because you you felt

2235
02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:40,440
Speaker 1: like you didn't get get at all? Because remember, here's

2236
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 1: here's a backlash that I got about that movie. People

2237
02:20:42,600 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 1: would talk about the n w A movie and talk

2238
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:49,119
Speaker 1: about how much better that was, and and the reason

2239
02:20:49,200 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 1: they said is because well they said that in a

2240
02:20:54,320 --> 02:20:59,640
Speaker 1: movie gave you more information, right, But in w A

2241
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:04,840
Speaker 1: is throughout their career they were secretive about their personal life.

2242
02:21:05,760 --> 02:21:08,440
Speaker 1: Pop gave you everything in real time, so you weren't

2243
02:21:08,440 --> 02:21:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna learn anything new about Tupac and a Tupac movie,

2244
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:14,520
Speaker 1: per se, because he already gave it to you. He

2245
02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 1: gave you everything for you who lived it, because I

2246
02:21:18,520 --> 02:21:20,480
Speaker 1: live both. That's what I'm saying. You lived in you

2247
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,800
Speaker 1: knew him. Was it good enough for you? Yeah? So

2248
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean I do. I will tell everybody that I

2249
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:30,160
Speaker 1: thought that it was a good movie, and I don't

2250
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:33,840
Speaker 1: have a problem with it. If people say, well, they

2251
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:39,600
Speaker 1: didn't tell everything or they compressed it. I'll accept people's opinions,

2252
02:21:40,240 --> 02:21:43,560
Speaker 1: but I'll never walk I'll never leave a room letting

2253
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:45,800
Speaker 1: anybody think that I was part of a bad project.

2254
02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:49,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, And I know, and I do

2255
02:21:49,920 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 1: have to say that any Oh my god, I will

2256
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 1: say this. Let me say this. Everybody on that set

2257
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 1: did everything and they could to be as precise, to

2258
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:05,400
Speaker 1: do everything they could to make the best movie that

2259
02:22:06,040 --> 02:22:08,160
Speaker 1: And to add to what he's saying, it's like Benny Boom,

2260
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 1: he was attached to the movie and I believe November

2261
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 1: before it started in December shooting, which had a contractual

2262
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:19,640
Speaker 1: thing like normally directors get six months to a year

2263
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,160
Speaker 1: to sit and map to shoot out, figure how they

2264
02:22:22,240 --> 02:22:24,200
Speaker 1: want to do it. It was there was it was

2265
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:28,040
Speaker 1: beset with so much people trying to cause problems that

2266
02:22:28,040 --> 02:22:29,560
Speaker 1: we don't get into all of that, but just a

2267
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:31,200
Speaker 1: lot of different There are a lot of different things,

2268
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot of drama controversy surrounding the movie. So Benny

2269
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:36,960
Speaker 1: Boom came in and like the fourth quarter to make

2270
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,560
Speaker 1: it happen and came through like, oh, I'm directing the

2271
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,320
Speaker 1: pop movie and we started next week. Let's get it

2272
02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:44,200
Speaker 1: to salute to Benny Boom for do what he did

2273
02:22:44,360 --> 02:22:48,720
Speaker 1: like and it was perfect because Bennie Boom, you know,

2274
02:22:48,879 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 1: he came from the era it so he could understand

2275
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:56,680
Speaker 1: it a little bit. So you know, I'm never anybody

2276
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:59,000
Speaker 1: has an opinion about it. I don't even try to

2277
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:03,560
Speaker 1: to then or argue. I just listened to me like, alright, cool.

2278
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:07,200
Speaker 1: But if you ask me, I thought it was good.

2279
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I, oh great, no, no, no, let me

2280
02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:14,360
Speaker 1: say this. Let let me say this. I thought that

2281
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:18,480
Speaker 1: it was as accurate as it could be. And I

2282
02:23:18,720 --> 02:23:21,280
Speaker 1: was actually with the digit under around segment of it.

2283
02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:25,400
Speaker 1: I was a consultant on our part of it, so

2284
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:28,320
Speaker 1: I know that it was as really, So maybe accuracy

2285
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 1: isn't the issue, right, That's what I'm saying. But but

2286
02:23:31,920 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 1: but people place that they placed accuracy and knowing something

2287
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:40,879
Speaker 1: that they didn't know. I think it's like they had

2288
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg's real voice with not a Snoop dog that

2289
02:23:45,280 --> 02:23:48,960
Speaker 1: was shout out to my nig, did your baby? I'm like,

2290
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:52,640
Speaker 1: that's snoop real point, But that's not Snoop right there. Anyway,

2291
02:23:52,720 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. It was really snoop. Oh you

2292
02:23:56,840 --> 02:24:01,840
Speaker 1: didn't see. I was like, I went streaming together, do

2293
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:09,360
Speaker 1: we and I I didn't go to the premier. I

2294
02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:11,800
Speaker 1: went to the actual theater and I looked and I

2295
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:13,960
Speaker 1: was like you. When I caught that, I was like,

2296
02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:17,600
Speaker 1: that's the funk. But I see how accurate they was

2297
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,720
Speaker 1: trying to be the my nigga, my nigga Jared that

2298
02:24:20,840 --> 02:24:23,480
Speaker 1: played him. He just has a different voice. Man, it

2299
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:26,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't worked. It wouldn't worked, But it wouldn't work, you know.

2300
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:29,520
Speaker 1: They called me and so would always tell people just

2301
02:24:29,640 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 1: like the three movies, what you what? Do you what?

2302
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:36,520
Speaker 1: You like the most Biggie Pop or n w A

2303
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:44,280
Speaker 1: out of the three? Yeah, I think I enjoyed the movie. Yeah,

2304
02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:47,039
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think, And I think there's

2305
02:24:47,040 --> 02:24:50,080
Speaker 1: a big takeaway for the Pop movie from that, because

2306
02:24:50,120 --> 02:24:52,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't as accurate as you're saying. And everybody says

2307
02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:55,720
Speaker 1: that across the board, what they said. It wasn't as accurate.

2308
02:24:56,840 --> 02:25:00,720
Speaker 1: Oh no it wasn't. But I'm saying because they made

2309
02:25:00,760 --> 02:25:05,200
Speaker 1: themselves better enjoyment, No, not necessarily just making a great fit.

2310
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 1: They made a movie all right, so's things in that

2311
02:25:07,920 --> 02:25:10,600
Speaker 1: movie that I that I know. I was, you know,

2312
02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:12,959
Speaker 1: like I said, I was, how love that in aping

2313
02:25:13,080 --> 02:25:16,520
Speaker 1: like that? But whatever, but it's still good. That didn't

2314
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:21,199
Speaker 1: make me go that should like an easy part didn't happen.

2315
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:28,359
Speaker 1: Well imagine just for example, in Straight out of Compton,

2316
02:25:29,440 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 1: they have easy whatever point and they made it seem

2317
02:25:35,400 --> 02:25:38,480
Speaker 1: like he went back to selling We right, but in

2318
02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:43,960
Speaker 1: ninety four Bone Thugs and Harmony was out at even

2319
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:45,880
Speaker 1: what you mean when we had Cube, when we had

2320
02:25:46,280 --> 02:25:50,160
Speaker 1: asked Cuba about Arabian Prince, where was Arabian bro Arabian

2321
02:25:50,200 --> 02:25:56,040
Speaker 1: Prince is He's key Listen to that. I was with

2322
02:25:56,160 --> 02:26:00,440
Speaker 1: a prince the other night, Prince, if you listen, I'm sorry,

2323
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say it. I was impressed, asked Snigger, because

2324
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, every Rabian prince has been in at tech

2325
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:08,720
Speaker 1: and gaming for a long time. Like I said, I've

2326
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:12,440
Speaker 1: been doing my podcast as them are, and I'm like, bro,

2327
02:26:14,440 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 1: how many how many big coins you hold? He was

2328
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:23,080
Speaker 1: like about three. They there's how many coins? Arabian Prince.

2329
02:26:26,000 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 1: That's just big, just b co. But the Arabian Prince

2330
02:26:33,440 --> 02:26:37,440
Speaker 1: is in that, he's holy shit because he was into

2331
02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 1: he was into the gaming attack a long time ago.

2332
02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:45,680
Speaker 1: Three said, and that's just this big coin, that's a

2333
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of money. Like I said, I'm Ray Prince, my

2334
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:51,640
Speaker 1: guys a little bit of business. But but it don't

2335
02:26:51,640 --> 02:26:53,920
Speaker 1: matter because he'll tell you. I'm just telling you that

2336
02:26:53,959 --> 02:26:56,560
Speaker 1: ain't all the gout. I'm just saying that's that's that's crazy.

2337
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:59,480
Speaker 1: He was ahead and he goes, you're not gonna get

2338
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:05,640
Speaker 1: that much of us, you early, right, So so, but

2339
02:27:05,959 --> 02:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the Rabian Prince wasn't in it. J J Fad wasn't

2340
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 1: in it. Jj Fad actually was the reason that they

2341
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:15,000
Speaker 1: were able to do the straight out of Confident album.

2342
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:17,360
Speaker 1: J J Fat was the record that pop that brought

2343
02:27:17,400 --> 02:27:20,600
Speaker 1: the money in doing. But but this is the thing,

2344
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:23,760
Speaker 1: this is my point of why I said that, I

2345
02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:26,400
Speaker 1: feel like the pop movie could have been as theatrical

2346
02:27:26,959 --> 02:27:30,440
Speaker 1: as great as n w A. And what Happens is

2347
02:27:30,600 --> 02:27:34,240
Speaker 1: like n w A wasn't as accurate, but it was

2348
02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:36,760
Speaker 1: such a good It was a good film that if

2349
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you're interested in the story, you will dig in the crates,

2350
02:27:39,640 --> 02:27:42,160
Speaker 1: you will figure it out. And f Gary Gray had

2351
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:45,800
Speaker 1: that time to really say that's where I felt the

2352
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:48,360
Speaker 1: pop movie felt and that's and that's what I'm saying.

2353
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:52,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I can accept that, and I

2354
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:54,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't dispute it. If that's how you feel. You know,

2355
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:57,440
Speaker 1: maybe I'm I'm too close to it. I'm just saying

2356
02:27:57,560 --> 02:28:01,640
Speaker 1: that when if people come to me about accuracy, I

2357
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:04,000
Speaker 1: have to laugh at it. If they bring up in

2358
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:07,320
Speaker 1: w A as the that's not that's not that's the point,

2359
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:12,120
Speaker 1: was it not? And even even to he started on

2360
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:16,200
Speaker 1: our show when I brought up a prince, I don't

2361
02:28:16,240 --> 02:28:19,480
Speaker 1: remember what he responses, but he print and then also

2362
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:22,920
Speaker 1: so and then Antron is not even in the w

2363
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:26,360
Speaker 1: A movie he was the role manager. But then in

2364
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:31,080
Speaker 1: the Tupac movie they made Atron one person well because

2365
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Poc had a few managers and they just made one

2366
02:28:34,360 --> 02:28:40,320
Speaker 1: manager throughout his career. But in in it makes sense

2367
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:42,480
Speaker 1: because I asked LT, He's like, bro, I can't keep

2368
02:28:42,520 --> 02:28:46,320
Speaker 1: introducing a new character every thirty minutes because now you

2369
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:49,240
Speaker 1: don't know who he is. You have to explain who

2370
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:52,640
Speaker 1: this person is. So they compressed. You know what, Tiny

2371
02:28:57,800 --> 02:28:59,880
Speaker 1: Park had a few so they just made the man

2372
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:02,720
Speaker 1: and your character combination and really quick. For everybody does

2373
02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:05,680
Speaker 1: not understand when we're talk about Arabian Prince. He's in

2374
02:29:06,160 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 1: the album cover of stra Company. He's one of the

2375
02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:11,680
Speaker 1: guys looking down in the album. Arabian Prince had a

2376
02:29:11,720 --> 02:29:14,920
Speaker 1: solo career. He was that guy he's with Uncle James's

2377
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:20,400
Speaker 1: Army and love that he was aged. Yeah, he was

2378
02:29:20,480 --> 02:29:22,840
Speaker 1: one of the bigger guys when it started. He was

2379
02:29:22,920 --> 02:29:25,960
Speaker 1: the name, the name guy and dad to the storyteller ship.

2380
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:29,720
Speaker 1: I just seen the brother, Divine Rizzle's brother talking about

2381
02:29:29,720 --> 02:29:32,920
Speaker 1: the Woof series and he's like, bro, we have eleven

2382
02:29:33,040 --> 02:29:36,760
Speaker 1: siblings in the show. There's four. But to have eleven

2383
02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:39,800
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters on the show, it's so much. On

2384
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:42,760
Speaker 1: the show that's four because you can kind of process that.

2385
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:45,800
Speaker 1: You can't eleven. Motherfucker's it's too much. It's too much

2386
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:50,080
Speaker 1: going on. So to tell a story, you gotta make adjustments, right, Yeah,

2387
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:54,240
Speaker 1: I should have been in a movie more. Actually, this

2388
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 1: it seems like almost like predicted his rate case. Right,

2389
02:29:58,000 --> 02:30:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say these both predicted yeah around, Yeah, I

2390
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:07,920
Speaker 1: get around. Go ahead too, says you don't know me,

2391
02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,000
Speaker 1: you just met me. You won't let me. Well, I

2392
02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:14,920
Speaker 1: couldn't have it, silly rabbit, Why are you sweating me.

2393
02:30:15,200 --> 02:30:18,800
Speaker 1: It's a lot of real g's doing time because will

2394
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:21,080
Speaker 1: be what truth had told A lot of the truth

2395
02:30:21,160 --> 02:30:24,440
Speaker 1: had told a lie. If you're too fly, you didn't

2396
02:30:24,480 --> 02:30:28,000
Speaker 1: hit the door. So you know that's what mind state.

2397
02:30:29,240 --> 02:30:32,240
Speaker 1: So why would that happen? That's what I'm saying. You're

2398
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna like to the attraction part. Spoke a lot attracting.

2399
02:30:35,680 --> 02:30:38,440
Speaker 1: It's almost like he predicted that, he spoke a lot

2400
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:43,360
Speaker 1: of ship into reality. Well you could say it that way,

2401
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:49,800
Speaker 1: but to me, that's not that's not attracting it because

2402
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:53,760
Speaker 1: if he had said she in that same rhyme he

2403
02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:56,640
Speaker 1: was saying that she was accusing me and I'm going

2404
02:30:56,760 --> 02:31:00,120
Speaker 1: to jam, then I would say, you're attracting it that

2405
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:03,960
Speaker 1: rhyme he's saying, this is why I'm not funking with you,

2406
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:09,199
Speaker 1: because people get accused. Is what happened. He just happened

2407
02:31:09,240 --> 02:31:11,560
Speaker 1: that he did. So we have to come in another

2408
02:31:11,600 --> 02:31:17,640
Speaker 1: example kind of I mean, no, I mean it's pretty

2409
02:31:19,320 --> 02:31:21,280
Speaker 1: that's like you saying I like Frank said, then you

2410
02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:24,680
Speaker 1: a Frank hitch in your face, Like, hey man, you

2411
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of predicted that. Like I mean,

2412
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I just he said,

2413
02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:32,160
Speaker 1: you found the wrong guy. Yeah, he said, he went,

2414
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't know you're making lemon water. He getting shot

2415
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:40,240
Speaker 1: in you want to tea for everybody paying attention. I

2416
02:31:40,400 --> 02:31:42,400
Speaker 1: was at the Ray and go send the show, and

2417
02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 1: I was wilding and not paying my voice. I just

2418
02:31:44,959 --> 02:31:50,400
Speaker 1: want everybody to know, at what are you taking? Lemons?

2419
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm just drink right right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna what

2420
02:31:58,879 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 1: sunny DP. A team went to the battom and ahead,

2421
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:11,960
Speaker 1: I like you good. It was just I know I

2422
02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 1: noticed that Generic asked question, you know what the fun

2423
02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I noticeaid Generic asked question, But it's warranted. Did you

2424
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:27,760
Speaker 1: ever think hip hop make it this fall? Um? I

2425
02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:30,240
Speaker 1: had no idea, you know what I mean? Because I

2426
02:32:30,400 --> 02:32:34,320
Speaker 1: wasn't doing it for the outlook of it. I was

2427
02:32:34,400 --> 02:32:38,480
Speaker 1: doing it for the love of it, if that makes sense.

2428
02:32:38,840 --> 02:32:41,680
Speaker 1: Because when we started doing it, it wasn't making. It

2429
02:32:41,800 --> 02:32:46,840
Speaker 1: wasn't a billion dollar industry. It was of whatever dollar

2430
02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:52,200
Speaker 1: industry that it was. So even where was Hammer when

2431
02:32:52,200 --> 02:32:54,280
Speaker 1: you guys started coming out, like what what level? Was

2432
02:32:54,320 --> 02:32:59,560
Speaker 1: he ever for the big area? Too? Right? Okay, don't

2433
02:32:59,600 --> 02:33:01,960
Speaker 1: ever learned. I just feel like Hammer doesn't get a

2434
02:33:02,040 --> 02:33:05,560
Speaker 1: fair shape because he broke all those barriers and then

2435
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:08,280
Speaker 1: got clown for it and then everything to do yeah,

2436
02:33:08,360 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 1: to do it now. Yeah, he broke him and then

2437
02:33:10,600 --> 02:33:13,800
Speaker 1: he started doing commercial Pepsi and Chicken all that ship

2438
02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:16,600
Speaker 1: and everybody, Oh, that's say if we would never do that,

2439
02:33:16,760 --> 02:33:20,000
Speaker 1: and then motherfucker's turned around everybody getting the strike commercial.

2440
02:33:20,680 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 1: He feeled me. So I'll call him. I'll call him

2441
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:28,000
Speaker 1: uncle Ham you know what I mean, and hammer you

2442
02:33:28,840 --> 02:33:32,760
Speaker 1: you ain't hammer on Hammer. We'll sit here and tell you, like,

2443
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:35,560
Speaker 1: tell your stories about Little Richard like you know I

2444
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:39,720
Speaker 1: can tell you. I can tell your stories about Big

2445
02:33:39,760 --> 02:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Daddy Kane and rock him. It's hand telling you. Listen,

2446
02:33:43,240 --> 02:33:46,160
Speaker 1: he is telling you about Little Richard and Michael Jackson.

2447
02:33:46,879 --> 02:33:49,600
Speaker 1: He got Michael Jackson and Little Richard stories. You need

2448
02:33:49,720 --> 02:33:53,800
Speaker 1: Hammer on your show, No, we need him, absolutely, goddamn man.

2449
02:33:54,720 --> 02:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I'll call open. He said he's down. Look he said

2450
02:33:57,480 --> 02:33:59,640
Speaker 1: he's down. He just said it's a timing thing. So yeah,

2451
02:33:59,680 --> 02:34:03,000
Speaker 1: because helped the time and help. Well, he's still on

2452
02:34:03,120 --> 02:34:07,880
Speaker 1: tourm Hammer, Hammer and some tection to hammer. He just

2453
02:34:07,959 --> 02:34:10,720
Speaker 1: wants it to be the right time. Yeah, he's winning.

2454
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:15,560
Speaker 1: He was about to go on towards him. Hen't't say it,

2455
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:19,320
Speaker 1: not not that, but but what I'm saying is we

2456
02:34:19,440 --> 02:34:21,160
Speaker 1: definitely want to give him his flowers, right if she

2457
02:34:21,200 --> 02:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Searched talked about him, So they had to discrepacy White

2458
02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:29,000
Speaker 1: and black Man. No, I just it was the shover

2459
02:34:29,120 --> 02:34:36,920
Speaker 1: is non commercial. I'm just fishing. Fishing good there facts

2460
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:41,960
Speaker 1: Hammering Search are both family to me. So it was

2461
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:45,800
Speaker 1: just unfortunate, I think. But it was that it was

2462
02:34:45,879 --> 02:34:48,199
Speaker 1: that era that they were was winning between Hammon versus

2463
02:34:48,280 --> 02:34:52,160
Speaker 1: Battle Search hammer Man. I think I don't know. I

2464
02:34:52,160 --> 02:34:57,600
Speaker 1: don't think I think Hammer's winning. All due respect to

2465
02:34:57,720 --> 02:35:03,000
Speaker 1: MC search and Third Base, but Hammon Justice. Here's the day.

2466
02:35:03,080 --> 02:35:05,520
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If you if you did a versus

2467
02:35:05,600 --> 02:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Battle and it was on the stage, Hammer would win

2468
02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:13,480
Speaker 1: if you were playing the songs right, because how many

2469
02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:16,360
Speaker 1: hits does the Third Base have? They have the gas

2470
02:35:16,480 --> 02:35:18,760
Speaker 1: face and they have Stephen to d A M and

2471
02:35:18,840 --> 02:35:30,000
Speaker 1: what else? Um uh, pop goes the weasel. But he

2472
02:35:30,040 --> 02:35:31,440
Speaker 1: can use that, he can do yeah, you can use it,

2473
02:35:31,640 --> 02:35:35,160
Speaker 1: use all yeah, n eyes, he can bring the eyes out.

2474
02:35:35,800 --> 02:35:40,080
Speaker 1: But you know he's gonna Hammer come out with as

2475
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:42,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna run all the songs before Hammer does.

2476
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:49,080
Speaker 1: Search could could possibly save it and win it because

2477
02:35:49,160 --> 02:35:52,320
Speaker 1: search can can can free stop. So he's like, all right,

2478
02:35:52,320 --> 02:35:57,480
Speaker 1: every song you play, I've never heard Hammer freestof Okay,

2479
02:35:57,720 --> 02:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I've heard him beat up a bunch of people. Hamas

2480
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:03,560
Speaker 1: can ham us. That's the thing I don't even don't

2481
02:36:03,600 --> 02:36:08,640
Speaker 1: know about. Yeah, spending up because niggas just trying to

2482
02:36:08,680 --> 02:36:14,720
Speaker 1: play him. Yeah, had hands and he and and and

2483
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:19,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, he comes from some Shimazon ham Yeah.

2484
02:36:20,959 --> 02:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say before you get up

2485
02:36:22,440 --> 02:36:24,640
Speaker 1: out of it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about it,

2486
02:36:24,720 --> 02:36:26,800
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I just want to express what

2487
02:36:26,959 --> 02:36:29,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about to plot in the cannabis. You know,

2488
02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:34,760
Speaker 1: I am a part of a company, Cannabis Mentor Partners,

2489
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:38,080
Speaker 1: So we're solutions company. So for artists I know, and

2490
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:41,680
Speaker 1: I know you guys heard of Compton grinders, right, So

2491
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:49,080
Speaker 1: we're partners with Crazy, partners with them, So for companies

2492
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Speaker 1: like that and even for artists if you want to,

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02:36:51,920 --> 02:36:55,480
Speaker 1: we're a cannabis solutions company. He even does that. I

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02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:57,360
Speaker 1: don't like this. I don't like this. We need our own.

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02:36:57,760 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 1: But it's because he's wearing those glasses and now that Cannabil.

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02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:07,359
Speaker 1: So if you need you know, you need a property,

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02:37:08,320 --> 02:37:10,800
Speaker 1: say your dispensary. If you're trying to figure out what

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02:37:11,160 --> 02:37:14,440
Speaker 1: what's gonna sell, Cannaba Adventure Partners. We do that. And

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02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:16,560
Speaker 1: then we were what I wanted to say about the

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02:37:16,640 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 1: Tupac the movie. It's like so many and you said it.

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02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Remember you said there you can hear ten stories about Tupac,

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02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:29,400
Speaker 1: And I said they're all true, meaning that I would

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02:37:29,440 --> 02:37:31,840
Speaker 1: even know if you ever met Poc or any of

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02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:36,320
Speaker 1: you ever did. But but but so I always say,

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02:37:36,560 --> 02:37:38,480
Speaker 1: people come to me and be like, yeah, something such

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02:37:38,959 --> 02:37:42,520
Speaker 1: said he did this with Poc, and I'll be like,

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02:37:44,680 --> 02:37:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, I have no reason to doubt what somebody

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02:37:46,959 --> 02:37:49,720
Speaker 1: said if I was with him, because Pop was that person.

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02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:52,480
Speaker 1: He if he met you and he's with you for hour,

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02:37:52,640 --> 02:37:55,880
Speaker 1: he touched you for a lifetime in a sense. Right,

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02:37:56,040 --> 02:37:59,480
Speaker 1: So I said, there is eventually gonna be a movie.

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02:38:00,800 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Some chick is gonna tell the story about how she

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02:38:04,200 --> 02:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Pop came to town, got her pregnant, she went through

2514
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:10,760
Speaker 1: gotta have some kids. I never never had Katy, but

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02:38:10,879 --> 02:38:15,199
Speaker 1: they had conversations, and that's a movie. So I said,

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02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:18,000
Speaker 1: there can be so we're talking about y'all use condoms

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02:38:18,040 --> 02:38:23,039
Speaker 1: back then, So yeah, did use coldums. That was that's

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02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:28,400
Speaker 1: a blanket statement. But I got some kids right pages,

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02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 1: y'all was just busting this ship. I don't know about

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02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:41,640
Speaker 1: the story is the story is stories about condom. I

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02:38:41,720 --> 02:38:44,640
Speaker 1: did wear a condom. So but but the one time

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02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:46,520
Speaker 1: what it called Jimmy hes back then, he said the

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02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:51,360
Speaker 1: one tho condoms. He was doing a lot of titty fucking. Okay,

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02:38:52,640 --> 02:38:58,920
Speaker 1: I used to be a yeah one time, you guys

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02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:05,960
Speaker 1: about drinking off time. You know, when we first came out.

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02:39:06,040 --> 02:39:08,880
Speaker 1: So it's like whatever, so we go and I'm not

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02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 1: gonna elaborate, but we went to Wichita, Kansas. Something happened.

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02:39:12,879 --> 02:39:18,040
Speaker 1: White girl, she was native, okay, okay, n she had

2529
02:39:18,080 --> 02:39:24,120
Speaker 1: real head. She had real head, Yeah, okay, So after that,

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02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:34,240
Speaker 1: know what that terrible whatever? Anyways, I know that I

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02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:37,119
Speaker 1: was dreading to ever go back to Wichita, Kansas because

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02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:40,440
Speaker 1: I just knew when I popped up money Beat running

2533
02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:43,600
Speaker 1: around somewhere, a child was gonna come up, maybe like

2534
02:39:43,959 --> 02:39:46,920
Speaker 1: two years later, like ninety three, is I'll go back.

2535
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking around. That's the round, and they don't go

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02:39:51,400 --> 02:39:54,360
Speaker 1: back there. A few more times. I was like, you're good, Yeah,

2537
02:39:54,720 --> 02:39:59,760
Speaker 1: he might come, he might come. It might be if

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02:39:59,800 --> 02:40:08,280
Speaker 1: it ever happened. He's natives. No, no, no, no no.

2539
02:40:08,440 --> 02:40:11,320
Speaker 1: So we're talking about said, any of these is going

2540
02:40:11,360 --> 02:40:14,400
Speaker 1: to be a bunch of I've I promote and I've

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02:40:14,959 --> 02:40:19,879
Speaker 1: welcome more tupop movies because there's so many series. How

2542
02:40:19,879 --> 02:40:24,560
Speaker 1: about digital undergrounds, Well so we are, you know, we're

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02:40:24,640 --> 02:40:27,840
Speaker 1: working on that. And then also and then I heard

2544
02:40:27,879 --> 02:40:31,760
Speaker 1: you talking, but I'm also part of a streaming network,

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02:40:32,200 --> 02:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Fired streaming network, and was like a SoundCloud, what is

2546
02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:39,800
Speaker 1: it like? No, it's an actually streaming like a right,

2547
02:40:40,000 --> 02:40:43,720
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's black honed. We're in a d

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02:40:44,080 --> 02:40:47,440
Speaker 1: two countries over twelve thousand. This is some content. But

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02:40:47,560 --> 02:40:49,360
Speaker 1: we're by the time this comes out, I don't know

2550
02:40:49,360 --> 02:40:51,600
Speaker 1: where you're gonna listen it, but will be public. So

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02:40:52,320 --> 02:40:56,959
Speaker 1: so without it even be a marketing globally, we're at

2552
02:40:57,000 --> 02:40:59,520
Speaker 1: that point. You got you pulling on your streaming services,

2553
02:41:00,480 --> 02:41:03,959
Speaker 1: not yet, not yet, but we do it. We do it. Yeah,

2554
02:41:05,000 --> 02:41:07,280
Speaker 1: the sports on boxing channel, you should high fight on

2555
02:41:07,320 --> 02:41:21,360
Speaker 1: that one. Fire streaming network, look for that ship. That's fine.

2556
02:41:21,560 --> 02:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Was the name of the stream network. Fire Fire y

2557
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:33,760
Speaker 1: are v v as in victory? Alright, are I've seen it.

2558
02:41:33,840 --> 02:41:36,320
Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen that, right, So we've seen. Like

2559
02:41:36,400 --> 02:41:39,160
Speaker 1: I said, it's it's been out so it's moving, but

2560
02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:41,960
Speaker 1: it's actually getting ready. Yeah, we we do. We do

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02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:47,240
Speaker 1: live stream. So I'm I'm talent and content supervis So

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02:41:47,280 --> 02:41:48,959
Speaker 1: if you got some ship, I can have green light

2563
02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:51,480
Speaker 1: your ship. God damn, let's do it. Come on, don't

2564
02:41:51,520 --> 02:41:57,039
Speaker 1: smoke chance. Here's the thing, here's the thing on vire.

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02:41:57,160 --> 02:42:02,080
Speaker 1: We do have Candidate TV, just a cannabist channel which

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02:42:02,160 --> 02:42:03,879
Speaker 1: if you use one of that's what I was thinking,

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02:42:10,480 --> 02:42:13,080
Speaker 1: said that. And then we cannabis venture partners, you know,

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02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:14,840
Speaker 1: with all of what we do, so we are having

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02:42:14,879 --> 02:42:17,840
Speaker 1: in the cannabis space. And at the same I always

2570
02:42:17,879 --> 02:42:21,160
Speaker 1: want to say, all of these ventures that we do,

2571
02:42:21,840 --> 02:42:24,959
Speaker 1: it's really about. If you notice, every time I say

2572
02:42:25,080 --> 02:42:30,360
Speaker 1: that I'm into something, it's it's consulting, it's management, it's agency,

2573
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:34,960
Speaker 1: because it's about bringing people into the space with me.

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02:42:35,320 --> 02:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm not in these spaces just trying to eat up

2575
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:43,520
Speaker 1: for myself. I just feel like, you know, this game

2576
02:42:43,560 --> 02:42:47,680
Speaker 1: has given so much to me and and and all

2577
02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:50,640
Speaker 1: of us are able to make a living from the

2578
02:42:50,720 --> 02:42:53,280
Speaker 1: culture that we come from. So the culture is giving

2579
02:42:53,320 --> 02:42:56,480
Speaker 1: back to us. So we're at the age now it's

2580
02:42:56,520 --> 02:42:59,000
Speaker 1: like we can we can see these young people or

2581
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:01,240
Speaker 1: you can say young people, or you can just say

2582
02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:05,120
Speaker 1: people before us that don't have the educational knowledge that

2583
02:43:05,240 --> 02:43:10,080
Speaker 1: we have. Let's share it. This is the oracle. There's

2584
02:43:10,120 --> 02:43:12,480
Speaker 1: the thing, you know. You can say it's out the

2585
02:43:12,520 --> 02:43:14,520
Speaker 1: bay on the college them game. The game is to

2586
02:43:14,600 --> 02:43:16,640
Speaker 1: be sold, not told. But we're at the point to like,

2587
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:20,360
Speaker 1: we have it now, don't worry about selling it. Let's

2588
02:43:20,360 --> 02:43:23,959
Speaker 1: share it. What's the artist? You said that from the banks?

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02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Little Mikey TMB Little Mikey TMB

2590
02:43:28,720 --> 02:43:34,680
Speaker 1: and and TMB means the money boy, hot business. Okay,

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02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:44,120
Speaker 1: all right then this drop. Thanks for joining us for

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02:43:44,160 --> 02:43:46,880
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