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Speaker 2: As always, a black transgender woman was found dead, another

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Speaker 2: the term of Polanco's case of death. Rally organizers said

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Speaker 2: while trans folks tenue to face an epidemic of fatal

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Speaker 2: of the recent victims' names on the banner. The statement continued,

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Speaker 2: We demand a full investigation to the death of Leileen

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Speaker 2: has established they go fundme fundraiser to pay for Polanco's

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Speaker 2: this reminds me of Sandra Bland, you know, where a

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows nothing.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about jail where, you know, jail they

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Speaker 2: They know when people go in and out of cells. Like,

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Speaker 2: how can y'all not know anything?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: They look like what we shot? It's a mystery to us.

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Speaker 2: Too, right, Like that's that's the part that always kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were in your custody.

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Speaker 2: And as we said, there were ten black trans women

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Speaker 2: It was Chanelle Skirlock, twenty three. She has suffered fatal

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Speaker 2: gunshot wounds. She was found her body was found in

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was literally like, I don't know where in Lumbington,

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Speaker 2: It's even out there furniture like mills.

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Speaker 3: I think that's about it.

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Speaker 2: Reports by local media of course miss gendered and dead name,

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Speaker 2: never really know for sure just how many trans people

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Speaker 2: Girlock lived in lumber Bridge, about twenty miles from Lumberton

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Speaker 2: of them are black women, all of them. Those showing

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Speaker 2: skirlock and feminine clothing was taken down recently from an

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Speaker 2: unknown person's Facebook page, and she was and she was

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Speaker 2: Raleigh TV station WRAL reports Frans feared she was going

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Speaker 2: thinking about just like traditionally just any woman going on

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Speaker 2: Then okay, imagine that. But black trans women of color

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Speaker 2: when this stuff comes up and I'm like, yo, somebody

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Speaker 2: that's what they do. They try to trick people. Instead

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Speaker 2: But then too many cases we're letting people off the

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's one thing that is very frustrating to me.

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Speaker 2: And identity politics is the economy right for us, because

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Speaker 2: a difference. And so I think what happens to what

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00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: a lot of the pronoun stuff is. It's not like

429
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: trans people who are out here being like, fuck y'all,

430
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna attack you because you fucked up, Like I

431
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: don't think that's what it is. I think it's more

432
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: like woke people who who recently kind of got hipped

433
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: a certain shit stuff they didn't know, stuff they just

434
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: learned themselves, and then turning around and flipping on the

435
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: next person in a very mean, condescending way, as if

436
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: they didn't need to be educated, as if they got

437
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: it the first time, you know, as if they had

438
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: no questions and all this stuff. And also we're also

439
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: learning the internalized thought processes of people who are marginalized. Correct,

440
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: the trans identity is a marginalized identity. So we're now

441
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: seeing people via their social media accounts tell us what

442
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: they're thinking internally, how we make them feel when we

443
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: do things. So while you may have your occasional like ah,

444
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: I meant to say they and I accidentally said she,

445
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: and you know, that's my Bad's that's not I don't

446
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 2: think that is the big thing that is like pissing

447
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: people off. I think it's the people that are like

448
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: intentionally being like, I'm not calling you that, right. I

449
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: think it's those people. I think it's the people who

450
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, purposely ask sort of intrusive questions and whatnot,

451
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: you know, as a just a general blanket rule it

452
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: if it doesn't cost me anything to just like to

453
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: accommodate a person. I'm gonna accommodate them, whether I completely

454
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: can understand or not, because I because expecting someone to

455
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: completely It's like how certain black people will be like,

456
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 2: I don't know, no white person can go to the cookout,

457
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: or you let white people go to the cookout for

458
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: doing blank it's not a cookout happening. But the point

459
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: they're making is the point they're making. It's like, Wow,

460
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: the bar is solo for white people that y'all just

461
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: let them do. But then I turned around and asking

462
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: a question, So what could a white person do to

463
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: go to the cookout? Right? It's nothing, really, that's what

464
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: they're saying. They don't want to say it, but they've

465
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: raised a bar to I just don't want white people

466
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: but to cook out. Caller card. There's no acceptable virgin

467
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: of white person. And I'm like, the reason that's gonna

468
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 2: make you feel that way is because there's no way

469
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: a white person can totally experience blackness. So they don't

470
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: fucking know what blackness is like. They could be cool,

471
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: they could be sympathetic, they could be empathetic, they could

472
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: be allied, they could be a lot of things, but

473
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: they'll never be black and they'll never know what it

474
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: feels like to be black. And it's that type of

475
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: mentality that I think certain people have. But yeah, I

476
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: don't think that anyway. It just it hit on something

477
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: that they said where they were like, I can also

478
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: accommodate sheep pronouns, like I get that the world is

479
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: this way. And that's the thing I often tell people

480
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: is like, while we're so strong out on these rules

481
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: and all that shit, some of this shit is about intent.

482
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 2: Are you treating me with kindness? Are you you know, like,

483
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: are you including me? Are you listening to me? Are

484
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: you valuing my opinion? The shit on the internet is

485
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 2: like black and white, like, but but so little of

486
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: life is that black and white. So much of life

487
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 2: is like I can either feel that you wh me

488
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: or you not with me, and that's something that just

489
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: doesn't you just can't put in a tweet anyway. So yeah,

490
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: the story of many trans or queer people of color

491
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: can be tragic tales that involve violence, poverty, and sometimes exploitation.

492
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: Mores tell includes it all in the future. They detail

493
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: how signs of feminineity as a child prompted discipline from

494
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: their Jehovah witnesses LATINX parents as they had been a

495
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: signed mail at birth. That discipline became so bad that

496
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Moore was relocated to a foster system. A lot of

497
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: times when parents overdiscplined their children, especially when they're queer,

498
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: their attention isn't to hurt them more said. They think

499
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: they're saving their child from harm, but they don't realize

500
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: that they're causing the harm. That they're doing. What they're

501
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: doing to their kids exactly what they're afraid the world

502
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: was doing to them. Yep. And especially as black people,

503
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: will totally understand, because that's why a lot of black

504
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: people will hit their kids because if I don't do it,

505
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 2: somebody else gonna police gonna do it. Shit like that.

506
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 2: Totally understand. You're right, It fucks us up in the

507
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: crib like we in the house. We're supposed to be

508
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: safe getting fucked up by the people that were supposed

509
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: to love us under the osfices of it's gonna save

510
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: you from being fucked up by somebody else, you know.

511
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, look at all the people now that

512
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: you know it hasn't stopped. Jails are still full of

513
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: black and brown people that were definitely whooped their home.

514
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: It didn't save any of them. Entering The foster system

515
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: sent More in and out of group homes as well

516
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: as foster homes. They also began attending the Bronx University

517
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Pride Center when they met Dominique Jackson, where they met

518
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: Dominic Jackson, a coastar and post, the first trans woman

519
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: More had ever seen at the later being placed in

520
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: a foster home with a guardian who was a trans woman.

521
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: More started a regiment of hormones, which they say improve

522
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 2: their mood and relationship with their body. But when the

523
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: guardian decided to stop flying the hormones, More when elsewhere

524
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: finding them selves and sex trafficking ring at sixteen. Yeah,

525
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: there was something else to this too. I just thought

526
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: of and I can't remember. Yeah, Oh, I know what

527
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: I was gonna say. The other thing too, that I

528
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: think we don't address is that like people's gender identities,

529
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: much like straight people in a certain way, it changes

530
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: over time. So you have realizations and epiphanies and you

531
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: learn over time, Like maybe you did think at one point,

532
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm just a gay man, and then you start seeing

533
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: there's more options, there's different things you feel about your body,

534
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: and you hear other people's experiences and you're like, well,

535
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: actually I relate to this too, Like this isn't my

536
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: body like this, like I was somehow born in a

537
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: different body, or maybe this is my body and embracing

538
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: And that's why I say they instead of she or he,

539
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: Like there's a like all this shit could change ten

540
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: years from now. You could really be like I felt

541
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: this way back in twenty nineteen, but twenty twenty nine,

542
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 2: I feel differently, you know. So anyway, I just think

543
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: people don't address that stuff. Yeah, they told me I

544
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: needed to do it continuously so I could afford homownes.

545
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: I didn't understand what sex trafficking was at the time.

546
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: The language I knew that was was that they were

547
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: basically my penance. I was just a kid. The experience

548
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: subjected her to not only rape but other types of

549
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: physical violence, but as we know, it wasn't the end.

550
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: The more story. They use social platforms like Instagram to

551
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: share photos of themselves and join the House of Extravagance

552
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands. Those experiences got her cast

553
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: in the independent film Saturday Church, which led to her

554
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: casting in Posts in addition to signing to the modeling

555
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: agent c IMG and now the multiple hyphenic is experiencing

556
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: a different style of living altogether. So man, I did

557
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: not know that went through all that, although that's still

558
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: a very common thing to hear.

559
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: So and they actually got out a lot of people

560
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: do not get out of those situations.

561
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, somebody won't see him and it's

562
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: Rachel dollars Our. Rachel dolars I said she uh is bisexual.

563
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: She announced it on Twitter. Just wanted to take him

564
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: moment to recognize Pride Month. I'm in absolutely no rush

565
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: to explore a new relationship, but it's still matter to

566
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: stay visible. My first kiss was with a girl when

567
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: I was eighteen. I'm bisexual. Just because I have been

568
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: married briefly to a man or have had children by

569
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: male partners does not mean I'm not by. Just because

570
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm by doesn't mean I'm confused. Just because I'm bi

571
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm almost gay. So don't ignore or do

572
00:32:53,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: delegitimate lot delegitimize the b in lgbtq I. It's a

573
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: real identity. We are here and no one's opinion is

574
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: gonna make me gay or straight or not. Buy those ads.

575
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Well, good for her.

576
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: You know what, I can't I can't even imagine. But

577
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 2: my guess is all the bad people just rode there.

578
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,479
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, man, not you, not you,

579
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: Like anybody can join that. But Rach, it's not that

580
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: we'll it's it's just that you. You're known as a

581
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: big ass liner. It's just we could all use a

582
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: little lesson like you. Like we already got a struggle

583
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: on our hands with people trying to erase us and

584
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: say we don't exist and we just gay and pretending

585
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: now we're straight and we're just playing around. I'm gonna

586
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: need you, miss black Awareness, to move the fuck on.

587
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need you to just keep it, keep you

588
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: all to yourself, like everybody.

589
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: You go back into the closet, almost like Kevin Spacey.

590
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: They was like, now now it's right inside you. No no, no, no, no.

591
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Right, It's like when a horrible person wants to join up.

592
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: It's like, damn, it is Pride Month and awareness and

593
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but you just gonna get a slander.

594
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: Can you just like, can you announce your shit in

595
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: like October? Right? So I don't know, she just I

596
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: could just see her showing up to the priparade, and

597
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: everybody's been like, oh, come on, man, here come Rachel. Y'all,

598
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: here come Rachel.

599
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

600
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: But yeah, I also saw people that were like, they

601
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: don't like Rachel dolars Out. So then, and this is

602
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: what you have to be very careful of. It happens

603
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: all the time. They don't like Rachel dolars Out. So

604
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: of course that first instinct is to want to say

605
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: something against her, but you gotta be careful that you're

606
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: not saying something that then applies to buy people in general,

607
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: like ight she lying, or she kissed the girl and

608
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: claimed to be bisexual? This was you never even been

609
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: in a relationship with a woman, Uh, you not bisexual?

610
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: And all the shit that people say to bisexual people

611
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: all the time as a me to either a race

612
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: or to belittle them. And so you gotta find a

613
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: way to say, I think Rachel Dolo's out is a

614
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: person who's just consistently full of shit, and I wouldn't

615
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: believe her if she said my house was on fire.

616
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Then to be like, by this, this is an example

617
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: of what's wrong with BA people or whatever. So it's

618
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: a fine line, but you gotta be careful with that shit.

619
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: So agree.

620
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's see New York State bands gay panic defense.

621
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: That's good, panic trans panic. These defences have been trotted.

622
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: Out accountable you killed somebody then.

623
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Right, These things have been trotted out in courtrooms and

624
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: that led to like extremely reduced sentences for stuff like murder.

625
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, I didn't know he was

626
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: gay and I just couldn't help myself. And I appreciate

627
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: the I appreciate them passing that loss.

628
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: So right. You know how many people find out and

629
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: be like, oh, okay, this is not what I.

630
00:35:59,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Want to end.

631
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: It was like I don't got to kill you. I

632
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: can walk away like you literally can just move on,

633
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: or be like you know what, I don't you know

634
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: what this this was not what I was looking for,

635
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: or this isn't the isn't the type of relationship I

636
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: desire and move on? People like leaving is never an option?

637
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: Yep, I have to kill you.

638
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: I can't just walk away.

639
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: And last story, master card will allow transgender people to

640
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: use their chosen name wonderful and master Card can do

641
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: it then soaking a driver's license. So, I mean credit

642
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: cards got way more stricter. Uh, excuse qualifications in other places.

643
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: Critic card comes to like you. You put like this,

644
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: Critic Card comes like you gonna get in this, Damn, I

645
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: don't care what name.

646
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 2: You use, right, And plus it's actually causing you more

647
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: problems if you have a chosen name and you're And

648
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: what people always forget about trans folks, uh in a

649
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: lot of cases is that you're talking about people that

650
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: are undergoing gender reassignment surgery. Sometimes you're talking about people

651
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: that have taken hormones. A lot of times you're talking

652
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: about people that are having like breast augmentation and stuff.

653
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: So we're talking about people who's you know, their hair,

654
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: their their their makeup, all this stuff. People or beards

655
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: or haircuts, whatever. People optically see them as a as

656
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: a certain gender many times, and they're already walking the

657
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: world is this way. So I see you, I go

658
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: what's up, bruh, or what's up? Says or whatever already.

659
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: So then when I go to the checkout at the

660
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: restaurant or the hotel or whatever, and I hand them

661
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: an ID that it's some some the name that is

662
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: traditionally associated with someone of the opposite gender, you actually

663
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: just made things more harder for me. You like it's

664
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: actually more it's harder for me to then turn around

665
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: and be like, okay, well look this is my dad

666
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: name I'm training. Like now you've either you possibly outed

667
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: me all these different things as opposed to just you know,

668
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, being able to coordinate your whole life together,

669
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, with an i D like a driver's license

670
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: or something like that. You know, people can get their

671
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: social Security cards change things of this nature, like get

672
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: your name change officially, which all costs money. So yeah,

673
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: that's dope a MasterCard to just it's just another step

674
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: to help people like feel complete, you know. And it's

675
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: funny they didn't do it with like a rainbow colored

676
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: card this week, this month, or you know what, like

677
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: like it was not like a gimmick. It was just like, okay,

678
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: this is this is what we're doing, and it'll actually

679
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: it'll actually help people's lives and they don't have to

680
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: do anything extra to do it.

681
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of times, like whenever you are

682
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 3: using like apps and and things that actually will what

683
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: is the name on your credit card? Like it specifically

684
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: acts you like to spell out what is that name?

685
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 3: So that name matters more than people think.

686
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into other news and on some

687
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: positive notes, right, I told you how to do it. Yeah, uh,

688
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: not really LGBTQ News. But Jesse Simolett is still in

689
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: the hot seat. Apparently I thought that this was over.

690
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: This story will not go away. A special prosecutor could

691
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: take action against Jesse Simolett for alleged fake attack. So

692
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: apparently UGO Chicago judge requested the appointment of a special prosecutor.

693
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: The special prosecutor will review the handling of the case

694
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: and it's eventual dismissal and documents obtained by the publication TMZ.

695
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: The judge in question noted that the special prosecutor may

696
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: take action in the form action in the form of

697
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: further prosecution if the reasonable grounds are determined to exist.

698
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: They just determined that they're not gonna let this go.

699
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: Let let it, let it go. Take that al and

700
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: so now you're wasting taxpayers' money even the more for

701
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 3: you to drum up some fucking charges them to go

702
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: up in there and say no again.

703
00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: Yep. So wow too, because I don't understand why they

704
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: want to get this nigga so bad, and I'm not

705
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: I know, there's a lot of people that they think

706
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: the right thing to do is to be like super

707
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 2: skeptical and be completely on his side. And I'm sorry,

708
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a fool. I absolutely do think that he

709
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: stayed some type of weird assholks. I don't know why

710
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: he did it. It's all kind of ridiculous to me.

711
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's the victim of some huge conspiracy

712
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: or set up. I also think this ship was not

713
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: a big deal and that should be the end of it.

714
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: The end.

715
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: I understand black certain type of black people that might

716
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: be mad at him for like the fact that you

717
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: fake the crime that you know a lot of people

718
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: really you know, struggle, like that's a real problem for

719
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I get, are totally understand. I'm

720
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: not gonna fight you about it, but I personally don't

721
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: feel so convicted about it. I just wish it was

722
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: go away.

723
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: Correct If he was white, would you have go and

724
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: reopen and rese No, leave that man alone. Now.

725
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we covered on here today. I don't

726
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: know we cover here. I'll listen to another podcast. But

727
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: they have a suspected serial killer in Chicago. I think

728
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: we did cover it where they's just like all these

729
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: black and brown women that have been killed sex workers

730
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: and stuff over like a long period time, by the way,

731
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 2: and they've been found like very similarly, like dead, like

732
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: choked or sexualist, all all kinds of stuff. Why don't y'all,

733
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: how our special prosecutor and go after that motherfucker find

734
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: that dude? Like I don't. I don't understand the reasoning

735
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: for for like this guy gotta go down? Like what

736
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: the fuck do y'all think y'all gonna get right?

737
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: What are you gonna prove other than make people mad

738
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: all over again?

739
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Like how much time is he supposed to get? Like,

740
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. He's not it's not it's

741
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: not O. J. Simpson. He didn't murder anybody. He got

742
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: himself beat up. Honestly. That's one of those times where

743
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: like if my when I was a kid, my parents

744
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: and I did something stupid and I ended up getting

745
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: fucked up myself, my parents would let me go. Sometimes

746
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: it's like you ain't getting in no trouble because you

747
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: fucked yourself up stupid. You know, I told you not

748
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: to go outside and then you got stumn by wash

749
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: that's your ass, Like now go lay down, you know,

750
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 2: like that like this is one of those go lay down?

751
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: Can they just tell go lay down? That's all the

752
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 2: punis we should have been for Jesse, Like, okay, Jesse,

753
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: you cost it casts us a lot of time, media

754
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: attention and effort.

755
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like got fees out of your Yeah.

756
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: You clearly got yourself beat up. Now go lay down.

757
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: Rihanna shows up three hours late to New York City

758
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 2: Fency pop up. I don't have much to say other

759
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: than if that was Lauryn Hill, y'all will be all

760
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: over her. So why don't y'all keep that same energy? Okay?

761
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh it's different when Rihanna does it. Huh okay, So

762
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: I Rihanna could get her chokers in line because she

763
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: y'all faith man, y'all sick in me disgusting. In today's

764
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: edition of Who Died After They Went to the Dominican

765
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: Republic The Right segment, a woman called Susan Simon No

766
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: I think Simon No. She died on Tuesday in New

767
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: Orleans after be in Russao hospital with fluid on her lungs.

768
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: It was a week after returning home from her honeymoon

769
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: and the Dominican Republic. Holy shit, her new husband is

770
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: now widower Keith Williams said he didn't know about the

771
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: eight Americans who died mysteriously of illnesses in the dr

772
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: over the past year. I would have never went if

773
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: I would have known, he said. Man, can't imagine you

774
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: go from getting married and celebrating your honeymoon to being

775
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: a widower in just.

776
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: A week coming back home.

777
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, another person died and I don't understand

778
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: what's happening, and.

779
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: They like nothing to see here, bitch, people are dying.

780
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: There is something to see there. What is happening over there?

781
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: Cardi B reportedly is indicted on fourteen charges in connection

782
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: with New York strip club incident. Oh yeah. Now what's

783
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: interesting is they had a plead deal with she would

784
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 2: face no jail time and I think she would have

785
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: did some community service possibly, but she rejected it. So

786
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: then that's when they said we're gonna throw the book

787
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: at you, which happens all the time with prosecutor. It's

788
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: the fourteen charges of the clude, mister mena reckless endangerment,

789
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: criminal solicitation, conspiracy, harassment and as saw, as well as

790
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: two kinds of felony attempted to saw with intent to

791
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: cause serious physical injury. I wonder if I don't know, man,

792
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wonder what. I wonder how she's

793
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: gonna fight this and not go to jail, cause, like

794
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's like this is pretty serious. Like they

795
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: don't sound like they're gonna have a whole trial and everything.

796
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: I hope she's I hope she doesn't go to jail.

797
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: The report, I mean, the incident revolves around two women

798
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: who claim to have sustained injuries during a fight. They

799
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: alleged again because of a request from Carti. Thursday night,

800
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: Carty was honored with the Songwriter the Year Award at

801
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: the ASCAP Rhythm and Soul Music Awards in Beverly Hills. Yeah,

802
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: first woman rapper to ever win that award, by the way.

803
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: With everyone saying I'm not this or that, sometimes I

804
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: got to see it and feel it for myself because

805
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: it's hard, Carty said when accepting the award. Everybody always

806
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: wants to say I made it because of this, or

807
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: made it because of that. I made it because I

808
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: worked my ass off. Earlier this month, Carty rightfully fired

809
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: back at a googer who tried to question her songwriting skills,

810
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: telling her said person to eat it up. Bitch. Oh

811
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: that's my girl. So yeah, that's I hope she don't

812
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: go to jail man, because you know, it ain't a

813
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: good tracker with some of our women rappers in jail.

814
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: Like remy Ma went to jail. It was somebody else

815
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: that went to jail too, was the brat like they

816
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: be trying to throw these women in jail. All right,

817
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: let's see. Oh, you know, I guess it's time to

818
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: do fucking with black people. Let me play my fucking

819
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: with black people music. We're just fucking with those black people.

820
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with

821
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: fucking with black people. That's right, guys. Time to play

822
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: the game that we all hate to play. It's fucking

823
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: with black people. The game. We go all around the globe,

824
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: we find different articles make us feel fucked with. The

825
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: will sign points sports with zero twene hundred animals are

826
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: twenty five. Today is contestant? Is I mean everybody? I mean,

827
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: isn't it kind of every always? Everybody? Guys? Uh? I

828
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: think it is uh? And it is a day that

829
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: ends with a why, so of course it would be

830
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: everybody today. Let me see who I was fucking with us.

831
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a lot today.

832
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 5: Uh i.

833
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: Usha Curry criticizes blacks who wrote who wrote this time?

834
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: What is blacks?

835
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: In bold? Capitalized the blacks as like Donald Trump says it,

836
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: they put it in italics. Ija Curry criticizes blacks for

837
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: not accepting her as a child. This is in rolling

838
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: out dot com. They're a reputable source interesting blacks. So

839
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: she went on the View and got interviewed, and of

840
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: course she had a discussion about I think this may

841
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: be where she also talked about sending Steph Curry nudes

842
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: or something. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I'll play it

843
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: for the chat.

844
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: Beautiful so much. Oh my god.

845
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: So I just turned thirty and I actually spent like

846
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 4: a clock some hours going through notes trying to figure

847
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: out which perfume I wanted to smell.

848
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 3: Like in my thirties.

849
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 4: It's called Last Night by Edward Best nailed it.

850
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

851
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 6: Well last week your husband, Steph Curry, who plays for

852
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 6: the Golden State Warriors.

853
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 3: By the way, my daughter plays Basketball's her favorite team ever.

854
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: But they lost to the Well she first of all,

855
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: I see how she dressing. Now you know that's good

856
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: for her, you know, but she's always been very pretty,

857
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's why a lot of people

858
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: are very like, I don't know, weirded out by her

859
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: saying that she didn't feel pretty. But I always the

860
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: thing about Aisha Curry that kind of vexes me, not

861
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: vexes me, is in she vexes me. I don't really

862
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: she didn't really get on my nerves, but it is

863
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: that people say they want like openness and they have

864
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: insecurities and they share and they you know, and we

865
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: see it on everybody's social media platforms, and for me personally,

866
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: I feel like she shares about as much as everybody else,

867
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: except she's monetized it, right, you know. I still don't

868
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: feel like we know her because obviously, you know, she's

869
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: a brand and she's would be stupid for her to

870
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: tell us every fucking thing she sells her information. But

871
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: it's always kind of weird to me how much when

872
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: she does share some shit, people are like come down

873
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: on her so hard.

874
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's on for whatever reason people should list

875
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 3: and she like it's almost like kim Ka type of thing.

876
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 3: For some people, they like, I don't care what she say.

877
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of like assumptions about who she is, right,

878
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: and maybe she is the person that people think, but

879
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just it's weird to me that

880
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: people feel so convicted that like she is this like

881
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: really horrible person.

882
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: But anyway, Okay, everybody has their moment.

883
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. You and stuff have known each

884
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: other since you were fourteen, so cute.

885
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 7: You've been married eight years and when it comes to marriage,

886
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 7: you say, this is so sweet.

887
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: Your mother has given you the best advice.

888
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: I want to say, yeah, you know, going into this thing,

889
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: she said, never lose yourself. So always make sure that

890
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: whatever it is you're doing, if you're a stay at

891
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 4: home mom, if you're not.

892
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: All right, we need to get to the part the blacks.

893
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: What is happening here?

894
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 4: It's kept me who I am. And you know, I

895
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: want my husband to always see the same woman, if

896
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 4: not better that he first laid his eyes on. When

897
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 4: you're married, so I don't want to lose myself inside

898
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: of the children in the marriage. So I always try

899
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: and keep a passion for myself.

900
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: Good.

901
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: Your mom is Jamaican, very controversial statements right there. You

902
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: want to keep a patch for yourself don't want to

903
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: lose yourself side to make inside of marriage and just become.

904
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: She says something, Right, it's a problem.

905
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: Clearly this means we almost pull our dicks out and

906
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: start harassing her. How easy is.

907
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: Your dad is black and Polish?

908
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: So forget Yeah, yeah, I guess say it makes it

909
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: almost sad quadroon.

910
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: So, actually, growing up in Toronto, I always I was black.

911
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm a black woman. I moved to the South to

912
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 4: North Carolina right at the start of high school. So

913
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 4: at fourteen, Yeah, and there it was like you're You're like,

914
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 4: who do you choose? But I've always like loved every

915
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: part of me, and there it was like not like

916
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 4: you're gonna go here, You're gonna go here. But then

917
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: it seemed like my own community didn't want to like

918
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 4: wrap their arms around me and embrace me, and so

919
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 4: that kind of hurt. But you know, I just want

920
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 4: my community to like embrace all shades because we come

921
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: in so many different shades. Melanin is not one thing.

922
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 4: It comes in so many different shades, and so I

923
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: just encourage people to melanin.

924
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 6: Melan I love Yeah, where you have three kids, all right,

925
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 6: So I think that was the statements that what she said,

926
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 6: the blacks.

927
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: That's all she said, Yes, and people lose them. Motherfucking mas.

928
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 3: That's dumb, like I said, And I don't know anything.

929
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: I'm just going based off her topic. I know she's

930
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: on some people should live, so I don't have a

931
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: problem with her. But people try to dismiss people experiences

932
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: like they're not fucking real. She came from another country

933
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: and she came down here, and niggas act like sometimes

934
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: they don't have problems, like colorism ain't real, Like they

935
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: don't push people out that are different and they don't

936
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: know them like that, like that, like that. Shit is

937
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: a real experience is for a lot of people, even

938
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: people born and raised in America. So you know, if

939
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 3: y'all if this, if she didn't add anything or say anything,

940
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: I was like, y'all, niggas ain't shit. I do not understand.

941
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: It's like she was pointing out a statement in a

942
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: fact that it actually has happened. I've spoke to grown

943
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: as women who have dealt with this, So I don't

944
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: really see what the problem is unless niggas just don't

945
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: like to be caught out on bullshit that we do

946
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: in our community. That's real and that's affecting people like

947
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: her experience was. It's supposed to be dismissed. But the

948
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: fact that you don't like her, not the fact that

949
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: she was staying in fact, but for the fact that

950
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 3: I don't like you. So anything you say, I'm gonna

951
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: scrutinize it and find a problem with it. There are

952
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 3: black people here, like I said, in this country, particularly

953
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: light skinned people. They have their own issues different from

954
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 3: people that are dark skinned, and people don't want to

955
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: talk about the differences. Yes, we should embrace everybody, We

956
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: should look at everybody as black, as equal, and most

957
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: of us do. Most of us do, but.

958
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: A lot of us don't.

959
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 3: Even if you don't, y'all got cousins, relatives, aunts, and

960
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 3: uncles that y'all heard talk all crazy about light skinned

961
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: people and shit like that and try to dismiss them

962
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: like they're not real blacks and shit like that like that.

963
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: Like like, I'm just basically going based off of what

964
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: she said, unless she said something fucked up that I

965
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 3: don't know of. This is ridiculous.

966
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we talked about it yesterday a little bit.

967
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: I think black people's biggest insecurity is a fear of rejection, right,

968
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: especially from within. Anytime somebody stars acting a little different,

969
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: being a little like dismissive, or if they may a

970
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: big ass change, like say Kanye West, it does hit

971
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: something inside of us that is so used to being

972
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: like shunned, vilified, judged, blamed unfairly that our first response

973
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: is one of like anger and lashing out. And I

974
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: think it's kind of like a chicken or the egg

975
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: thing when it comes to people like Aisha Curry or

976
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: am Barros or somebody like that, because we don't really

977
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: a lot for the fact that they're figuring it out right.

978
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: It's always like I knew I was black, Well, yeah,

979
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: I knew I was black. There was no other option

980
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: for me. No, there was no other influence in my

981
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: life that made me go, well, maybe I'm kind of

982
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: something different, Like it would have been just complete self denial. Right.

983
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: A lot of these biracial people are born in households

984
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 2: where you know, you have white people, black people that

985
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: aren't black that you love, who are providing yourself just

986
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: sustenance and all that shit, and you might feel conflicted

987
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: in claiming blackness as your only identity, as somehow asconching

988
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: or shunning the other parts of your identity that make

989
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: it up. People like to treat it as a very

990
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: simple calculus. But in this way, there is a sort

991
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: of privilege to my brownness, to my type of blackness.

992
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 2: Like in this way, I was never conflicted or confused,

993
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: and that never would be a chance for that to happen,

994
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: you know. So there's so to a certain extent, I

995
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: can see how there's already a rift from the idea

996
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: of when do I claim, you know, like, am I

997
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: saying in my saying that I am only black and

998
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: to be viewed as only black? Am I then saying

999
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: that my mom or my dad or my you know,

1000
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: my grandmom or whatever. Am I now rejecting them or not?

1001
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: I get why people may feel conflicted in.

1002
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: That way, right, agreed.

1003
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 2: The other thing is I think anti blackness worth both

1004
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: ways on us. There are people that you know, of privilege.

1005
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: There's people that are light skin, There's people that are

1006
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 2: bi racial that come to our community and they do

1007
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: harbor some disdain which they picked up from other places,

1008
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: They picked up from white people, they picked up from

1009
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, proximity to whiteness. There's all you know, I

1010
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: used to cry talks about her community. But at the

1011
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: same time, you know, she was in a town going

1012
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 2: to a private school where people have money that was

1013
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 2: like eight percent black in the city. Like she might

1014
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: not have really been surrounded by the black community like that. Anyway,

1015
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: she wasn't She wasn't here in Charlotte with that shit.

1016
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 3: You know.

1017
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: So it may or may not have been like a

1018
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: super black thing for her anyway. You know, it's dating

1019
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 2: Steph who comes from money. Steph might not have been

1020
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: necessarily kicking in the blackest circles and shit. It's no

1021
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: no offense to Steff, of course, but so the so

1022
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: it may you know, there may be some conflicts within

1023
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: your own circle. You may have picked up shit from

1024
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 2: white people. You're special, you're different, You're that you know

1025
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that folks get. They blame on

1026
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: black people for ostracizing you. It's like, we don't ostracize you,

1027
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: we just ain't treating you special. And that may come

1028
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: off like ostracization because white people will treat you on

1029
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: some respectability shit, like you're different than these other black

1030
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: people because they're trying to justify liking you, right, Like

1031
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: I like this black person so therefore, this black person

1032
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: must be different than other black people because I don't

1033
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: like other black people. And then if you hear that enough,

1034
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: sometimes you internalize it. Or sometimes you come to black

1035
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: folks and you go, why aren't y'all celebrating me? Why

1036
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: don't you? You know? And not to mention, you know,

1037
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: of course, there's a lot of insecurity we harbor. Yes,

1038
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, you see a black person, biracial person that

1039
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: is of a certain class and privilege, and a lot

1040
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: of times when they do make it to your social circle,

1041
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: it's like, I'm gonna assume you're the worst. I'm just

1042
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: gonna assume the worst of you. I'm not even gonna

1043
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: take time to get to know you. I don't really

1044
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: give a fuck like you over that kicking with your

1045
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: white friends and shit like that. Like I've seen it.

1046
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: We've all seen it.

1047
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: I have seen it.

1048
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: The thing I want to that I've been saying for

1049
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: years on the show now is just kind of epiphany,

1050
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: and I'm not backing down from it, is I understand

1051
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: that there's some people that have been you know, they're biracial,

1052
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: and their quote unquote whack they an You know what

1053
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like they're so confused, they're so fucking like

1054
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: they're they're so determined that they're the real victim of everything.

1055
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: They're so hurt by things that happened when they were

1056
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen years old, by other thirteen fourteen year olds,

1057
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: and they determined that those things are emblematic of the

1058
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: entire black community. They've decided that for themselves, and there's

1059
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: nothing you're going to ever be able to do to

1060
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: reach that person or to convince them that, hey, that

1061
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: those kids that may have made you feel that way,

1062
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 2: or those feelings inside of you that made you feel

1063
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: that way, because we're talking about formative years, right, Okay,

1064
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: nobody's more insecure and temperamental than fucking teenage kids, whether

1065
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: they're bullying you, or whether you're the one being bullied,

1066
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 2: or whether it's just you on yourself saying this is

1067
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: all happened to me because I'm biracial. This is all

1068
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: happened to me because I'm black. This is all happened

1069
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: to me for whatever reason. Right these this is you know,

1070
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: because we have the other kids that you know, they're

1071
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: not biracial, light skin anything, but they go at least

1072
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: say like talked white or something like that, and they

1073
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: take that shit from the time at fourteen and the

1074
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: they're fucking thirty and they still hate black people, you know,

1075
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: So I all that shit to say, I can empathize

1076
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: with the idea that it's not as simple as people

1077
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: are saying. Where she just like went on the air

1078
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: and was like, black people ain't shit white people the real.

1079
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Truth, you knowin she said it was anti black.

1080
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: It didn't make me feel that way, right, And I

1081
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: think I think the collaborative effort of black people to

1082
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: shout other black people like this down and to invalidate

1083
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: their response, their their their what do you call it,

1084
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 2: their experience, I think that's wrong headed. I think it's

1085
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: I think it comes from a place of insecurity of

1086
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: our own I think it comes from us not wanting

1087
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: to hear that our community could have been more accepting

1088
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: or better in anyway. And it's like, fuck you, bitch,

1089
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: before you reject me, I'll reject you. That's how it

1090
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: feels to me. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I'll change my

1091
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: mind in years to tom. I don't know, but I've

1092
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: been feeling this way for years now, and the idea

1093
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: that no interracial person, no I mean biracial person, no

1094
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: light skinned person, no person that you know, one of

1095
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: those I talk white type people, one of those people

1096
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: that's like I was in the rock and roll and

1097
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: I felt like, you know, my own folks in my

1098
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: neighborhood was kind of down on me. And shit, I'm

1099
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 2: tired of this idea that we got to come together

1100
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: and shut them up, like it's some big dark secret

1101
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: that if they say this thing, then it could have

1102
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: only been one way. Because what one possibility that I

1103
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: will always allow for is they might just be telling

1104
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: the truth. I mean, I don't know. I hope they're not,

1105
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: because to me, I'd rather you be too insecure and

1106
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: sensitive in yourself and have made this fiction up where

1107
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: it's like, man, black people was mean to me and

1108
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: it bothers me and da da da. I would rather

1109
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: you be that type of person than to say that

1110
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: our community just outright rejected you and mocked you. And shit.

1111
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is, I don't know.

1112
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how you should carry I didn't grow

1113
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 2: up with her, I didn't go to school with her.

1114
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what her experiences were like. Maybe she

1115
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: came off whack. Maybe some people assume some things by

1116
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: looking at her. Maybe she walked. I mean shit, Dale

1117
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 2: Curry's wife and that red table talk was like, Yo,

1118
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: there were black people that thought I was not black,

1119
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: you know that? Like I had to tell them, like

1120
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm black. I'm wanted a few black people where I'm from,

1121
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 2: like KKK flags and shit, and like Confederate flags. They

1122
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: fucking did that on our football field when I was

1123
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: a cheerleader, Like I ain't black. There's two ways about

1124
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: this shit. But you don't really get to determine how

1125
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 2: other people feel about you. And they see these women,

1126
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 2: light skinned, different colored eyes, straight hair, and it's like,

1127
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: you ain't black unless you're gonna be like a super woke,

1128
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: light scanned militant person. You don't get the count as black,

1129
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 2: like unless you like Kaepernick the fuck out.

1130
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And truth be told, some of them do that

1131
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: to actually prove their blackness to us, but you don't

1132
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: have There's no reason for you to prove your blackness to.

1133
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: Us, right, I mean, I I as a black kid

1134
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: still remember like when one of my friends would express

1135
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: interest in like rock and roll, I'd be like, that's

1136
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: that white people shit. You know I did it so

1137
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: to then turn around as a grown ass adult and

1138
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: be like, none of these kids ever experienced these things, right,

1139
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous to me.

1140
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: It's dumb because I know I did it.

1141
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: And I don't need like people to be all super

1142
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 2: performative about like it went this way it went. I

1143
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 2: don't fucking know how it went for her. I hope

1144
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 2: that it didn't go as bad as it seems, but

1145
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 2: maybe it was whack for her, and maybe that's what

1146
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: it was. And she's like, yo, I didn't feel accepted,

1147
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: And that could be the other way that everybody saying

1148
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: is oh, she she just didn't feel comfortable because she

1149
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: was uncomfortable and it wasn't nothing to do with us.

1150
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that's exactly what it is. And that's what it

1151
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent of the time. And it's never

1152
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: been any black person or bi racial person in the

1153
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: history of the world that has ever had the black

1154
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: community be like, we're gonna you know, we're not accepting

1155
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: you know, but I doubt it. You know. The other

1156
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: part of this, I would add what i've and this

1157
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: is just all what you call it, what's the word

1158
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking for? This is all just me like projecting

1159
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: or not projecting what you call it. This is all

1160
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: mean just guessing, right, I'm just guessing. My guess is

1161
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: what is happening in this case, In these cases, almost

1162
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 2: all of them. It's not that our community is unaccepting

1163
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 2: of black people who are biracial, light skin. All this

1164
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: stuff is that we are such a different type of

1165
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: community from white people that if you grow up not

1166
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 2: around us, it feels different. Jumping in. Some people take

1167
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: to it and they love it. Of water fish the

1168
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 2: water right, they just jump in. They're like, oh my god,

1169
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm home. Yes, right. Some people can't take it. It's

1170
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: a very conjecture. That's the word. Yes, it's a very

1171
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: It's a very different type of culture. Our culture is

1172
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: gallows humor. Yes, our culture is jokes. Our culture like

1173
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: you like we say people like They used to call

1174
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 2: my family when I was a kid, to say the Cosbies.

1175
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: My family's not rich, my dad's not a doctor, my

1176
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: mom's not a lawyer. But they would say the Kazis

1177
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 2: because we had two parent household and my dad stuck

1178
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: around it was an upstanding black man and raised his

1179
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: kids and all this type of shit, and they would go,

1180
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: y'all to Cosby's right, because it wasn't a lot. Some

1181
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: kids didn't have parents in my neighborhood. Dad's in my neighborhood.

1182
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: So my family members, you know, like they but to

1183
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: me it was love cause I'm like, you making jokes

1184
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: with me because you love me, not because you don't

1185
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: love me or you won't me out or you reject me.

1186
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: And I never took it to heart. You know. My

1187
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: dad would tell us, like, talk proper like when we like,

1188
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 2: when we talk to him like no it ain't it's

1189
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 2: not ain't and this and that, say this, that and

1190
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 2: the other, like he would he would break it down

1191
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 2: and make us talk properly. But even with that, I

1192
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: never know, and like, you know, someone would be like, man,

1193
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: you talk white or whatever the fuck. It would never

1194
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: bother me because I'm like, I'm not white, and I

1195
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: know I don't I talk like me. That's it, you know.

1196
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: So that's that type of internalized shit. And I do

1197
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 2: think white people have a way of being accepting without

1198
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: being accepting mm hmm. They're they're politely when especially in

1199
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: your family, it's like a polite type of outcast. And

1200
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 2: because we don't mirror that, we're like a impolite inclusion,

1201
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: and white people are very polite shunning. Yes, So when

1202
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: a white family member is deciding that your blackness has

1203
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: made you less than to them, they're not gonna mind

1204
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: call you the N word or whatever. Or if they

1205
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: do love you but they hate black people, they're not

1206
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: gonna say I hate black people. To your faith, they're

1207
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: not gonna say that shit. We as black people, we

1208
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: talked that, we will say, man, fuck them white people.

1209
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: And you yo, if you got issues about that and

1210
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: you didn't come up that way, it's gonna bother you

1211
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: because white people might feel like, fuck them black people,

1212
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: but they never gonna.

1213
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: Say it around you know, they're not.

1214
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: To me. That means you're in. You're in the fold.

1215
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: When I say that, because I don't really literally mean

1216
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 2: go out and just fuck every black white person. I

1217
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: don't like any of them, but but in black colloquial speak,

1218
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean that ain't shit. Uh hey man, man the

1219
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 2: other dials at work, and uh, they tried to say

1220
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: I came in, came into the office, like man, fuck them.

1221
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: White people. Just don't worry about that shit. Man, Like

1222
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: you got there, you got there, didn't you know? Like

1223
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: that's a black thing. But if you didn't come up

1224
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: around that, you're like, Wow, black people really hate white people.

1225
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: They I don't want to tell them that my mom's right,

1226
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: this is gonna be this could be awkward, you know.

1227
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: But if you but if you come up around us,

1228
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: you're like, hold on, that's nothing, that doesn't mean shit.

1229
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: Probably new your ass had a white parent from the

1230
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: when they fucking looked at you, you know. So anyway,

1231
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: all that to say, I feel like all those issues

1232
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: are in play. We can't know her specific case. I'm

1233
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 2: trying to get to a point where I where I

1234
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: think I might be. At that point, well, I'm just

1235
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: not bothered by her fucking experience or her opinion. I'm

1236
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: just not bothered. I don't need to shout her down.

1237
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: That's where I want everybody to get right, where every

1238
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: you can have a certain experience with black people, and

1239
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: maybe you are to this day a whack ass motherfucker,

1240
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: and maybe it really is all you and it's always

1241
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: been you and it's never been us. But also maybe

1242
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 2: it wasn't that way, and maybe you really did get

1243
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: fucked with by some black people and there was a

1244
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 2: form of an indelible time of your life, and they

1245
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: got imprinted on you for the rest of your life,

1246
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 2: and you're just gonna always be fucked up about it.

1247
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: And maybe you're working through it, maybe you've worked through it,

1248
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 2: but you can't ever forget that that happened to you.

1249
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm sorry that happened to you,

1250
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: and I'm moving on as long as you're not using

1251
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: it to be whack towards black people today. I'm just

1252
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 2: sorry it happened to you, because you know, you know

1253
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: who else feels like we need to shout people down

1254
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: whenever they say something that makes our group look bad. Men,

1255
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, whenever women start talking about how men

1256
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: treat them or the experiences they've had with men when

1257
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 2: they were younger and stuff like that. There are so

1258
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: many men who will then turn around and be like, well,

1259
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it probably was just he liked you, he

1260
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: was being nice. You know, It's like everything, except this

1261
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 2: happened to you and it was fucked up. And maybe

1262
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: so I'm not the man who did it, but I

1263
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: don't need to cap for the one who did either,

1264
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: cause I'm not the kind of black person that's gonna

1265
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: try to make you feel bad for being biracial. But

1266
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: I have seen black people that do shit like that,

1267
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: and you know what, I'm sorry that happened. They shouldn't

1268
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: do that shit, agreed, you know what I mean? Like,

1269
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 2: that's fucked up to me. We all in this shit together.

1270
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 2: If you black, the main thing in America is that

1271
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: some white people that don't want you motherfucking around. And unfortunately,

1272
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 2: because of that rejection from white people, a lot of

1273
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: us black people are like, listen, you can come kick

1274
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: it with us, but just know that you gotta choose.

1275
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: And this idea that you don't gotta choose, it's a lot.

1276
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: She said that shit right, we make people choose. Oh yeah,

1277
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, that's not made up.

1278
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be half way with us.

1279
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 2: Nobody can come up if someone comes over to us

1280
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: at this lunch table blackness and goes, well, you know,

1281
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm half Dutch and I'm half black, so listen, like

1282
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. Wrong people be like, nigga, you

1283
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: are black. That's the end of that.

1284
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 3: One, cause we've been chose.

1285
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 2: There is no choice.

1286
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 3: So it's not so people when people go you have

1287
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 3: to choose, it's not like we chose whiteness, white supremacy

1288
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,520
Speaker 3: said black and white, so the choice was already predetermined.

1289
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 3: So we're like, hey, I'm what dan that you mix?

1290
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 3: But if you plain black?

1291
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 2: And what do we say when they don't you when

1292
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: they say I'm not black, I'm biracial. You know, I'm like,

1293
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: instead of what do we always say, Wait till you

1294
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 2: have your nigga moment.

1295
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 3: Wait because it's coming.

1296
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: Wait till you have your nigga wake up call, some

1297
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: racist shit gonna happen, and you're gonna realize we was

1298
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 2: actually trying to protect you by telling you you actually

1299
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: don't have a choice. It's not that we don't want

1300
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: you to have a choice, right, we prefer it.

1301
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: We preferred to be fluid.

1302
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: But it ain't we think we're protecting you by saying

1303
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: you're one of us. Now we will look out for you.

1304
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: We will look out for each other. Welcome to the fold.

1305
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: And when you tense up or feel like I'm a

1306
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: racing part of you, then we go, okay, well fuck you.

1307
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: Then going to have your little nigga moment and then

1308
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: you'll be back. And that's that's basically how we do it.

1309
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's right, but that's pretty true, and

1310
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 2: so I can. I've never had to experience the other

1311
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: side of that cause I've never been anything but black.

1312
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 2: I love being black. No one's ever like, I've never

1313
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 2: even felt white when they were you watch anime, yes, nigga,

1314
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 2: I am a nigga who watched anime. It never was

1315
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 2: I you know, the white the black community doesn't watch

1316
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: anime or what. It was never that for me. So

1317
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: I just don't have those feelings. But to be on

1318
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: the other side of it, especially at a young age

1319
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: where it seems that all these things start, it might

1320
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: fuck you up. And especially if you come from a

1321
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: situation where you've been around white people who claim to

1322
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: not see color and all the shit, and you get

1323
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 2: this insidious form of racism that is a rature of

1324
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 2: your identity. And when black people see you, we go,

1325
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 2: we place an identity upon you. We go you are

1326
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: black now. So she's like, I'm just from Canada and

1327
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm just aisha. Yeah, you're in North Carolina, now you black?

1328
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: You in North Carolina, you're a nigga.

1329
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: That's it? Like you know, I mean, shit, we know

1330
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 2: black people now that don't let they're like perfect jail

1331
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 2: Coban to me, Jail Coban black, I know, I know

1332
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 2: how he appears to look. I know how his life

1333
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 2: has been arranged. I know how people treat him. And

1334
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: he has stories about white people saying and doing racist

1335
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: shit around him because they don't know he's black. To me,

1336
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, obviously you're a black dude, and but

1337
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: Jay al Covanza do that he won't say the nigger, like,

1338
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: not even as a joke or any of that shit,

1339
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 2: Like he just don't say the N word because he

1340
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 2: didn't feel like I had this experience in my life

1341
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 2: being on the other side of that, that shit couldn't

1342
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 2: be conflicting. I can understand how you might feel fucked

1343
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 2: up about that, Like that's that's a weird way to

1344
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: cause you're still an individual. But as you're living life,

1345
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: you got a group of people that's like my nigga,

1346
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: You got a group of people that's like that nigger

1347
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,959
Speaker 2: like you got my own. It's like, it's going to fuck.

1348
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 3: You up both you get both ways.

1349
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: If I'm black and fucked up by racism, how somebody

1350
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: gonna be black and white and not fucked up by racism?

1351
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: Come on, black and whatever. So I just feel like

1352
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: so much of this and even what I'm saying now

1353
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: is all conjecture, Like so much of this stuff gets

1354
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 2: thrown into this pot, and then we look at each

1355
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: individual person and if they say anything that doesn't go

1356
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: along the line of black people are the greatest, they

1357
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 2: were always the greatest, they always love me, Black people

1358
01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 2: are the best.

1359
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 3: Period.

1360
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear no negative experience ever happened

1361
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: to me with black people, period, No weird racist thing

1362
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: ever happened to me with black people ever, unless you

1363
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: say that you getting roasted. And I think that says

1364
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: more about us as a community that we're still doing it, right,

1365
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: like the shit that we claim we're not doing it,

1366
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 2: We're still doing it because even as adults, we're like, Nope,

1367
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: you can't say you had that experience. You're a whack

1368
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,919
Speaker 2: bitch like you like you clearly are racist yourself, Like okay,

1369
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 2: so black people can never be wrong in this situation, right, And.

1370
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 3: Like you said, a lot of it is projecting. A

1371
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: lot of it is self protection for us, not really

1372
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 3: for them, but for us, for the rejection of you

1373
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 3: rejecting the blackness that we've embraced. Right, and you know

1374
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: it is one of those things where you know, like

1375
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: you say, it's ridiculous for you to act like black

1376
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 3: people don't flaw. Black people don't always have it together.

1377
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 3: Yes we are pressed, Yes we were shot in the street.

1378
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: Yes we could be all those things and came from

1379
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: slavery and all that shit. But for most people that

1380
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: are black, most of your heart ache campaign has came

1381
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: from the people that's closer to you, and they are

1382
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 3: gonna be other black people so full, So for you

1383
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: to say that black people are not flawed is fucked up.

1384
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: We're hurt, you know, we're flawed because we are hurt.

1385
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: Every culture is flawed, but we are hurt. White supremacy

1386
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: has hurt us. Yes, and it's okay to admit that

1387
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: shit and not everything is gonna be a it's perfect

1388
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 2: black and white picture. Some shit is just messy. And

1389
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: this is one of those messy ass conversations that you know,

1390
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 2: even this conversation is sparked off of this is not

1391
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: necessarily about her. It's about the bigger picture, correct, and

1392
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: that sucks, you know, it just sucks as part of blackness.

1393
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 2: I hope that you know she feels differently today, but

1394
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: who fucking knows. I don't know that they live in

1395
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: a world where she's surrounded by or accepted into a

1396
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: lot of black culture. And just the way I see

1397
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: people talk about her as is right, it don't seem

1398
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 2: like she would. There seems like a lot of some

1399
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: people just kind of dislike her.

1400
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: I don't know what she did or anything.

1401
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 2: I mean, we've covered everything that she's done, and we

1402
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: just haven't found the like same animosity about it that

1403
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: other folks have. It's not that we don't know, right,

1404
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: because I don't want people writing these long ass things

1405
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: about how terrible she is. We have covered all this shit.

1406
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: I just didn't find it as inflammatory as a lot

1407
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: of people did.

1408
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 3: And that's what I mean when I don't mean I

1409
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 3: don't know what you did. Yees. She has done some things,

1410
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but everything she done ain't on

1411
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 3: as ten because everybody act like it's a ten for

1412
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 3: everything that she does. I'm like, everything can't be ten.

1413
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: Right, all right? Zero T one hundred zero? Yeah, I

1414
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: would say twenty five because I'm always and I'm working

1415
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: on it, man, But I'm always fucked with when people

1416
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: bring these experiences up and I don't mean it to

1417
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: be dismissive, but there's a part of me that always

1418
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: feels a little dismissive, like it's probably just you, and

1419
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: that's such a fucked up like victim blaming or of

1420
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: way to do it. And I'm working on it, to

1421
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: be honest with you. I like, I, you know, when

1422
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: someone tells me about something like this, I'm learning to

1423
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 2: just shut the fuck up, listen to them and honor

1424
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: their experience without trying to be like, well, what were you,

1425
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 2: Like was it really this? Because a lot of times,

1426
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: you know, you'll hear people say something it's like, I

1427
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: flinch up anytime somebody says anything close to black people

1428
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: did blankly blank, because I'm like, oh, you're about to

1429
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: say some shit that's like we're inferior as a race.

1430
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: But a lot of times, especially with people I know

1431
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: and trust, it's not that, and they will be like, nah,

1432
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: I love black people, and I recognize white people are

1433
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: fucked up and racist and all that shit. But yes,

1434
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: when I was twelve or whatever, there was some black

1435
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: kids that fucked with me, you know, and it's like, yeah,

1436
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: that kind of bullying about anything different happens at that age,

1437
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 2: and I know it affects a lot of everybody else.

1438
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: I've heard everybody else's stories, so why would it be

1439
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: different for a biracial person. John Lewis back to Byden

1440
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: said segregation this comments were not offensive. So Joe Biden

1441
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: came out and said that he had worked with segregationists

1442
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: back in the day and they never called him boy,

1443
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: but they did call him son. And that's of course

1444
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: because you know, they were both white. I'm sure if

1445
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: he worked with black if Joe Biden was black, they

1446
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: would have he would have been called a boy for sure.

1447
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,879
Speaker 2: And so Correy Booker came out and was like explaining

1448
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: the difference and being like, this ship was whack that

1449
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: you said Joe Biden, and Joe Biden doubled down, and

1450
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 2: then it was like basically saying, Cory Booker need apologized

1451
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: to him and he knows better than that that I'm

1452
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 2: not a racist, and yeah, so it really went off

1453
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: the chain right there. Would shout out to Corey Booker

1454
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: for season the moment, Okay, as the black man candidate

1455
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 2: that was that was good. A lot of people are

1456
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 2: not gonna give him credit because they don't like Corey Booking,

1457
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: but my dude, you really did the thing on that

1458
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: you got an opening against the front runner, essentially, and

1459
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: you jumped in there and said, hey, hey, now I

1460
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: do know something about being a black man and callboy,

1461
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: and it's racist every time. So anyway, John Lewis came out,

1462
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: who was a friend of Joe Biden, friend of Hillary Clinton,

1463
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 2: you know, very loyal to the people that he's come

1464
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,959
Speaker 2: up with, and said, I don't think the remarks are offensive.

1465
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 2: He told reporters were counting a range of unsavored people

1466
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: he's worked shoulder to shoulder with during the high of

1467
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 2: the civil rights movement. We worked with people and got

1468
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: to know people that were members of the Klan, people

1469
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 2: who opposed us, even people who beat us and arrested

1470
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 2: us and jailed us. But the long time Georgia congressman declared,

1471
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: we never gave up on our fellow human beings, and

1472
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: I will not give up on any human being. Biden's

1473
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 2: controversial remarks at least a especially strong response from Corey Booker,

1474
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: another Democrat seeking the twenty twenty nomin nation. Biden rejected

1475
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: cause to apologize for opining that at least there was

1476
01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 2: some civility when he worked with segregationists in the Senate

1477
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: and that one of those senators never called me boy,

1478
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: he always called me son. Yeah, because Biden's trying to

1479
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: do this thing where he's going. It's even more divided

1480
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: now under Trump than it was back then because these

1481
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: motherfuckers won't even work with us, and they won't they're

1482
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: not civil to us either, to which black people are

1483
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: like they've never been civil. Duh. So then, like I said,

1484
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: that's when Biden doubled down. And then they had a

1485
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 2: phone call with Biden and Booker the smooth things over,

1486
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: but neither man apologized, and Biden's camp doubled down, and

1487
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 2: as the week went on, uh so, yeah, zero t

1488
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: one hundred can.

1489
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 3: Oh did this gets one hundred? Because I've been irritated

1490
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 3: with him ever since he threw his hat in the

1491
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 3: ring him. Yes, he fucking irritates me. He basically he

1492
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: showed up like I know I'm gonna win, Like I

1493
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 3: have a problem with that too, Like you literally showed

1494
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: up like y'all niggas gonna vote for me because of

1495
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: Obama And people have told him, hey, don't do this,

1496
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 3: don't do that, like he put people around him because

1497
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: it comes out that when he fucks up somebody has

1498
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: told him not to do that shit. So you don't

1499
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 3: listen to the people that actually has their ears to

1500
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 3: the ground, to the people that's gonna vote for you.

1501
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 3: You don't listen to them at all. So you're telling me,

1502
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 3: you're subconsciously telling me that I'm a mediate mediocre ass

1503
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: white dude who's running for office. And I'm gonna take

1504
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 3: it back to how it used to be, how we

1505
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: don't address your problems, we don't address y'all issues. Because

1506
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 3: that's literally what you're telling me right now, because shit

1507
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: is coming up and you fucking getting on them, you know,

1508
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: because don't nobody give a fuck about these dudes not

1509
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 3: calling you boy? You white? And a hundred The car

1510
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 3: is because I because he just fucking irritates me. He

1511
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 3: irritates the shit out of me.

1512
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: The stuff with.

1513
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 3: Who the Abrams, the black woman, Stacey Abrams, The shit

1514
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: was Stacey Abrams. You didn't even have a conversation with her,

1515
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: you would go, you threw her name out there just

1516
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 3: you're just doing dumb shit. It doesn't It's like, who

1517
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 3: is advising you? Who are the people around you? If

1518
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 3: you want to win, you're not doing in my opinion.

1519
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 3: You're not doing it right. You're not doing it right.

1520
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: You're fucking up, fucking up, fucking up, fucking up, fucking up,

1521
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: and you're not fucking up with anybody. You're not here

1522
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 3: fucking up with the white folks. You're not here sucking

1523
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 3: up with the black folks. You're not here fucking up

1524
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: with the niggas. Because boy means something to us, It

1525
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 3: don't mean none of these white folks. It means nothing

1526
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: to them. So that's the part that irritates me because you're,

1527
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 3: like I said, subconsciously, you are telling me that your

1528
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 3: connection to Obama should automatically equal black boats. But that's

1529
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: not true. You literally it's forty five of y'all. I

1530
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 3: could vote for anybody. Just because you threw your hat

1531
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: and a ring, It don't mean you're gonna win, my nigga.

1532
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what about John Lewis having his back or said,

1533
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: you know the stuff he said For.

1534
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: John Lewis, I gotta say this, I would still and

1535
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: it's not to just miss his experience, but because everybody's

1536
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 3: experience is different, he gets a hundred for the fact

1537
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 3: that boy means something. I am not gonna let that go. Boy,

1538
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 3: means something, and that's not erationing your experience. You work

1539
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: with the Klan. I honor all the work that you do,

1540
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 3: but boy means something to me, you know, and that's

1541
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 3: just what it is. I'm not erasing it. I'm not

1542
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 3: backing down from that, uh at all.

1543
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it was interesting people all wh was colleg John

1544
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 2: Lewis and Uncle Tom and so like.

1545
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: I would never say that, because you know, I honor

1546
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: the work that you do, you've done, like, I would

1547
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: not take it that far.

1548
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: I could just say I.

1549
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,520
Speaker 3: Disagree with you on that point.

1550
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, I have two I'm up two vines about it,

1551
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: that's right, I'm gonna leave her. The first one is

1552
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 2: pretty simple. What Joe Biden said and did I think

1553
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: was pretty tone death. And I think that's just what

1554
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 2: he's been doing. I think he's I think this has

1555
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: been this guy the whole time. There's million, like at

1556
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,719
Speaker 2: this point, it's got to be at least a dozen

1557
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 2: gaffs of him just speaking publicly and saying wow, shit

1558
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 2: since the inception up, since shit, since he was campaigning

1559
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: on the trail with Obama, Like right, it was like, damn,

1560
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 2: this dude really is kind of kind of not all together,

1561
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not surprised by that. I think he's running

1562
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 2: on the Obama bringing the country Together plan. I think

1563
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 2: that plan is on something that only someone like Obama

1564
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: could have run on. I don't think. I don't think

1565
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: white people or black people who aren't biracial or or

1566
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: not young and new. I don't like, you have to

1567
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of things coming together to sell

1568
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: America on hope and change correct and he ain't got it.

1569
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: He too old and white. So his comments is the

1570
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: thing that bothered me the most is when Corey Booker

1571
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: called him out and he basically said, like kind of

1572
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: scolded Corey on something like you should know better than that.

1573
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: And I'm like, that sounds a lot like staying your

1574
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: place to me, right, So I don't. I don't. I

1575
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 2: definitely didn't like it. Obviously, everything we say about the

1576
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: den primary is completely covered by the fact that we're

1577
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: gonna vote for who the fuck when's it. We've said

1578
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 2: it a million times, So before you do the like

1579
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: y'all don't like nobody type of shit because we didn't

1580
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 2: like your favorite white man, understand that I'm voting for

1581
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: whoever comes out of this bitch, So don't even I'm

1582
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: not your enemy, so don't even try. Don't even trip

1583
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 2: on me like that. So then the second thing is this,

1584
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 2: and this is where I think it gets a little

1585
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: a little mushy for me. I think what John Lewis

1586
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: said is right. I don't think people like to hear

1587
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: that shit, but he's right. And that's just the ugliness

1588
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: of all the shit. And John Lewis is you you

1589
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 2: could not see power from racist in the South without

1590
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: working with racist in the South. That's just that's just

1591
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: how it's done there is. Unless y'all nigga's gonna get

1592
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: enough guns and enough people to go down there and

1593
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: just fucking forcefully take some shit, you're gonna need white

1594
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 2: people to relent or work with you one or the other.

1595
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: And somebody coming from his background working with Martin Luther

1596
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: King being beaten on that bridge, dolls sicked on him,

1597
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: friends hung and killed and assassinated and shit. A dude

1598
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: like that has knowledge that is valuable and we have

1599
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: to stop dismissing it because it doesn't go good. In

1600
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: a fucking one hundred and forty character tweet, agreed, some

1601
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 2: of this shit is deeper than what the fuck people

1602
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: are telling you on the internet. And a lot of

1603
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: these same people are the same people that got a

1604
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 2: fucked in twenty sixteen with this weak ass, weird type

1605
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: of like we just gonna do what we want and

1606
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen because we said it. It's like, no,

1607
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: it's not this country. If you want to take it

1608
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: in a political way. As far as votes, you are

1609
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,719
Speaker 2: going to have to convince some white people to vote

1610
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: as well. Yes you are, because no matter how big

1611
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 2: the group that like the same people that say you

1612
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 2: can't blame any of the election on black and brown

1613
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: people and all this other stuff, which I totally understand.

1614
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: You can't blame the election on any of us. Cool,

1615
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 2: got it. It was white people's fault. That's they man,

1616
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I totally agree with you. You think you're gonna

1617
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: defeat them without white people, some of them changing their mind.

1618
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: So we just got a plan to beat them, no

1619
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 2: white people involved. That's not true.

1620
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 3: That's not true.

1621
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: John Lewis is right. You do have to work with

1622
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: people that you really don't fucking agree with. That's what

1623
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: the whole Democratic twenty sixteen party should have learned is

1624
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with some of these tone death

1625
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: as white people. I don't agree with Bernie Senators voting

1626
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: for the fucking crime bill. I don't really agree with

1627
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton stomping for the crime bell. I don't agree

1628
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: with Bill Clinton and Joe Biden authoring the crime Bill.

1629
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: I don't agree with any of that shit. But at

1630
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: the same time, I'd be ridiculous to walk away from

1631
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: a table where they're deciding whether they're gonna cut off.

1632
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, they're gonna they're gonna eat somebody, and it's

1633
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: like everybody that ain't there is on the menu. I

1634
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 2: be a fool. So John Lewis is saying something that

1635
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: is unsavory with truth. And also I'm not gonna demean

1636
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: John Lewis for the idea that he is this Christian

1637
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: dude that has but forgiveness and all that shit in

1638
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: this hard I think because we've decided that we're tired

1639
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 2: of it as a social media community, we've decided we're

1640
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: tired of those stories. We're tired of people we want

1641
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: to act like it's not real life, but it is

1642
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: real life. We might not want to see it, might

1643
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: not want to go to movie theaters or or whatever

1644
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: hear read the book, but this is what happened some

1645
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: of these white people in order to get woke. It

1646
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: did take something other than just sit in, and some

1647
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: of them, you know, had the privilege of getting to

1648
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: be woke, you know, like he said, it work with

1649
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 2: people in the Klan. Somebody had to knock on the klan.

1650
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 2: So that means somebody that was in the klan had

1651
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: to be like, I think, these niggas are people, and

1652
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 2: this fucking sucks because we've it's like we always been people.

1653
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: But somebody had to do it. Somebody had to work

1654
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: with them. So I'm like I said, man, I hate

1655
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: I hate that. I wish it was as simple as

1656
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,759
Speaker 2: people try to make it. And John Lewis has suddenly

1657
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: lost his mind and he don't know what the fuck

1658
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 2: he's talking about. But he's right because even if Biden wins,

1659
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't expect Biden to suddenly become the wokest white

1660
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 2: man of it. No, even if Biden wins, he will

1661
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:56,879
Speaker 2: still be the Biden who kind of sees good and racist,

1662
01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: fucked up white people because they were nice to him.

1663
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: That's gonna be who wins if he wins. You know what,

1664
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying he won't change, So will it be like, well,

1665
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 2: then I'm not working with him. Okay, Well, now this

1666
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: motherfucker's making decisions without us at the table, with no information,

1667
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, Like so I get the whole conflict of it.

1668
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: So anyway, for me, I'm definitely fucked with. Obviously, I

1669
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: probably say, like seventy five, I'll never I'll never call

1670
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: John Lewis out of say that's just not gonna happen

1671
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: on this show. I'll leave it to other motherfuckers who

1672
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: think they've done more or can do more for black

1673
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: people than John Lewis, But not me.

1674
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: Right, the life that man don't live. He's literally he's

1675
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 3: walking history. I would never insult or attack his, his work,

1676
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 3: his his his life like that. Like that's ridiculous. Like

1677
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 3: I said, I do understand the concept of Joe Biden

1678
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,679
Speaker 3: going I had to work with these dudes like that concept.

1679
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 3: Don't have a problem with at all.

1680
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an anecdotal thing he's saying, though he's not

1681
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: really saying like I love working with racist. What he's

1682
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: saying is the new races that work with Trump are

1683
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: even more fucked up than he was trying to make

1684
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 2: a It's Joe Biden. He was trying to make a

1685
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: fucking point that obviously was in articulate and fucked up

1686
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: because that's what he does. But the point is there

1687
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 2: underlying it, which is even during segregation, there were fucking

1688
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 2: people more civil in not in the in the administration

1689
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 2: than what Trump is put together post segregation. He's like,

1690
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 2: these people are actually even more fucked up than the

1691
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: ship that happened in the sixties and seventies. That's what

1692
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 2: That's the point Joe Biden's trying to make. But he

1693
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: made it in Joe Biden way, right, So yeah, so yeah,

1694
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: this is what he do. All right, we'll do one

1695
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 2: more story. Actually put this on on the screen. But

1696
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:01,480
Speaker 2: there's been some gang activity.

1697
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Justin Farmers and I police are investigating in gang members

1698
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 1: tagged homes and cars in a local neighborhood.

1699
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: Have a look.

1700
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 1: You can see the mess left behind on vehicles and

1701
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: garage doors. Channel to's Elyssa Hyman live in Covington in

1702
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 1: Newton County. So, Alissa, at least one person there told

1703
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: you they do not believe this is gang related.

1704
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 7: And justin just to paint a picture for you, this

1705
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 7: is a very large neighborhood, and there's only one way in,

1706
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 7: and all of this was happening towards the back of

1707
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 7: the neighborhood. We've counted at least three houses with graffiti

1708
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,639
Speaker 7: on it. You can see this neighbor tried to paint

1709
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 7: over it, but it's still pretty obvious what it says, you.

1710
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Know, put some little fear in your heart.

1711
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 7: This Newton County father was saddened to discover that crime

1712
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 7: has recently cast a shadow over his quiet neighborhood.

1713
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: When I got home, I was just I was just puzzled.

1714
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 2: I was I was. I was really broken that something

1715
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: like this would actually happen here.

1716
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 7: He asked us to hide his space for safety. He

1717
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 7: told me he was away last weekend when he got

1718
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 7: a call from his son. Someone spray painted a gang

1719
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 7: name on their garage.

1720
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: In their car.

1721
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm a very private person. I don't bother anyone.

1722
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 3: On a for real. Oh somebody don't know graffiti, do they?

1723
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: You can't watch this live. The it says crips. But

1724
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: the spray painting is so it does not look like

1725
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 2: a gang did this.

1726
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

1727
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:32,520
Speaker 2: Look like that. You know, uh, that black rule graffiti

1728
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 2: all over again. I think it's the same artist who

1729
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 2: did black rule on that dude's truck, which means a

1730
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: white man hello.

1731
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 7: We counted at least three houses near Stevens Way that

1732
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 7: had been vandalized. This neighbor tried to paint over it,

1733
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 7: but it's obvious what it says.

1734
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't believe it when I saw it, so we

1735
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 3: don't have that in his neighborhood. It's quiet out here.

1736
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 7: Neighbor Mary Smith saw us reporting a few houses away.

1737
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 7: That's when she first noticed the graffiti herself.

1738
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm kind of disappointed.

1739
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 7: Now we've learned the New Honey Sheriff's office is investigating

1740
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 7: whether this could be gang related, but some neighbors have

1741
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 7: their doubts.

1742
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 3: No, they're just some keys who have nothing else to do.

1743
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 7: Whoever it was, they did more than just vandalized property.

1744
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:14,639
Speaker 2: This father told us.

1745
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: They also went into his home and stole valuables.

1746
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Someone may have seen something, report any suspicious activity.

1747
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 7: And according to the police reports I got, they have

1748
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 7: not found any surveillance video of all of this.

1749
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 3: Polease stay.

1750
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 7: At this point, they have not id'd any suspects just yet.

1751
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 7: Ording Live Tonight, Newton County Lsaheim and count Action News

1752
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:37,719
Speaker 7: night Bee.

1753
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: Oh the didn't no black folks do that?

1754
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: Bullsh zero to one hundred. For the white people that

1755
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: did this, can what would you give them?

1756
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 5: Oh that I gave him fifty cribs spelled out to

1757
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 5: y'all fail all the way out and they points and

1758
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 5: they really did it to a black neighborhood, right, just crips,

1759
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 5: like not south.

1760
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: Side, not east side, not west side, just.

1761
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: Not what's not neighborhood? They not Cherry Street cribs, like

1762
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: just cris TM the brand.

1763
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 3: They should have put TM in it, right, no color,

1764
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 3: just just black. You didn't even waste your time to

1765
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,560
Speaker 3: actually do it right, you didn't even tag it with

1766
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: your name.

1767
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 2: They put up with care of the crips. Yeah up

1768
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Crypts Division. Oh my god, they really went

1769
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 2: down the fucking street in the black neighborhood to put

1770
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: that ship on there. Good grief. Uh yeah for me,

1771
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 2: I say, like, I guess fifty because the white people

1772
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 2: that did it, that's fucked up. To fuck them, like

1773
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: somebody got get their car cleaned or painted. Yeah, like

1774
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 2: it's really fucked up and inconvenient. But yeah, that no

1775
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,799
Speaker 2: black people did that good grief. Yeah, yours in Christ

1776
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 2: the cryps. All right, we love the.

1777
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 3: Love. Oh my good, that's what they might as well said.

1778
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's play a guest the race, and

1779
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: then we'll get out of here. Now that it's time

1780
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: for some guests the race. That's right, it's guest.

1781
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: The race time. Now that it's time for some guests

1782
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 3: the race. That's right, This guest the race time.

1783
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guests the race. The number

1784
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 2: one game show go on all the cost podcast land.

1785
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: We read to play newsca from all over the globe,

1786
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: and we asked our contestants today Karen and the chat

1787
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 2: room to guess the race. And of course everyone playing

1788
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 2: is a racist, all right, story number one, Uh, it's

1789
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 2: pro team. It's good for you. Man in the wheelchair

1790
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 2: thirty three, who defecated during his trial for burglary and

1791
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 2: threw it at the judge before eating the rest in

1792
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: front of a hard fire Florida courtroom is acquitted on

1793
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: all charges. What yep, White sounds like a real shit show.

1794
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 2: A criminal trial was halted temporary temporarily in Miami.

1795
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 3: On floor. He made his own ship storm he did.

1796
01:36:46,200 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 3: He made it a shitty situation. I cracked me up.

1797
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: A criminal trial was halted temporarily in Miami on Friday

1798
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 2: when a defendant defecated into his own hands and hurdled

1799
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 2: feces across a courtroom just before closing arguments were set

1800
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 2: to commence. Doorlean's Philidor, thirty three, aimed the unsavory missile

1801
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 2: at Miami Day Court Circuit Judge Lisa Walsh during his

1802
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: burglary trial. It's protein, It's good for you, he said.

1803
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 3: What I mean, did he just put his hands down

1804
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:36,799
Speaker 3: his pack? I don't understand.

1805
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 2: Thankfully for Walsh, the exstrement narrowly missed, but the defendant's

1806
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: dirty protests prompted a frenzied evacuation of the courtroom, with

1807
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 2: lawyers and judges scrambling for the exit as County police

1808
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 2: officers rushed to restrain Philidor. The defendant had been sitting

1809
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair to the right of wash until a

1810
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 2: bailiff suddenly called out to the justice and urge her

1811
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 2: to seek shelter. The video catched by a spectator in

1812
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 2: the gallery shows one officer desperately clinging to on the

1813
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 2: Philidor's arm and attempt to prevent him from wiping his

1814
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 2: hands on the judge's bench. Witnesses say they watched in

1815
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 2: horror on the horror when moments later Philidor appeared to

1816
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 2: eat the feces's officers worked to restrain him. It was intense.

1817
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 2: The corrections officer of police officers were swarming, like sixty

1818
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: of them. They told everyone to leave and you couldn't

1819
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: go back in. It was a hazardous area, right yeah.

1820
01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Undeterred by Philidor's actions, whilst proceeded with the trial in

1821
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 2: a separate room while the original setting was closed for cleaning.

1822
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: After just one hour delibered deliberation, the jury returned a

1823
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: verdict of not guilty for Philidor's burglary charge WOW.

1824
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 3: On him next.

1825
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 2: No. According to reports, jurors were not present when he

1826
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 2: cast PCs across the room, so they didn't even see

1827
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 2: that they were president. I guess they weren't bosed because

1828
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 2: they were out of the room, so they didn't even

1829
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 2: get to see it. They weren't even Despite his aquato,

1830
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 2: Philidora remain in custody, but as he is also facing

1831
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 2: the separate trial and the grass theft out Okase, it's

1832
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: not known yet if He will face additional charges for

1833
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: the attack, but courtroom officials said this isn't the first

1834
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 2: time this week his behavior has delayed court proceedings, and

1835
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: on Thursday, doing a lunch break, the thirty three year

1836
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 2: old defecated on themselves, smeared all over his body and

1837
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: on the walls of the cell.

1838
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: Y'all just need to handcuff him.

1839
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do when soon is determined to.

1840
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 3: Just do that, you know, like you need to diet

1841
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 3: for what's happening to hire.

1842
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how you would be a corrections officer

1843
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 2: and have to like touch him and shit.

1844
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 3: Right, because now you've got to go wash your.

1845
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: Waddy right, good grief correction. His officers were forced to

1846
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: haul him away through a public hallway, which was soon

1847
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 2: tarnished by a fecal stench, and tire wing of the

1848
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 2: second floor of the building had to be quarantined off

1849
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 2: and disinfected as a result. On the request of lawyers

1850
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 2: and the court, doctors assessed Philidor to see if he

1851
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 2: was fading a mental illness, but he was adjudged to

1852
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 2: be fit for trials before Friday's display, So I don't

1853
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: know if they just like he not crazy, he's just

1854
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: trying to get out of his trial or what. But yuck?

1855
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 2: All right, Karen, I guess the race of Philidor. Oh wait,

1856
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 2: you already said, right, a white man. Karen says that

1857
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:44,799
Speaker 2: Philidor Doorleans Philidor. It is white. Let's shake the chatroom.

1858
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: See what they believe.

1859
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,759
Speaker 3: His last name is Philidor p h I.

1860
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 2: L A d O R. Door Leans Philidor. All right's

1861
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 2: shake the chat room, see what they believe. That's some

1862
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 2: white shit. What kind of shit is this Latino? He

1863
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 2: doesn't wash his legs white. The judge told him to

1864
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 2: wipe that shit, even grin off his face before he

1865
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 2: did it. Black white? That Facebook video black white black white,

1866
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:16,439
Speaker 2: hot snakes or hot snakes white. That's when the Dodo

1867
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 2: come out like a hot snake. Uh. Study at the

1868
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 2: Taco Bell University, Latino. So he got lots of white,

1869
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 2: lots of Latino, Karen says white. Only one person said black.

1870
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 2: And if you said black, you're right what you get

1871
01:41:43,040 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 2: the golf clap? Everybody else move to the rest of you.

1872
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 3: He got found not guilty.

1873
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: And he got found not guilty. Oh that's what you

1874
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: was heading a smart that was smart. Yep, that's pictures

1875
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 2: of him in there trying to put doodo hands on

1876
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 2: the judge's desk. Yes, that's him when he got arrested,

1877
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 2: before he got his haircut. So there you guys know.

1878
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, the one time it was us, I wish it.

1879
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 2: Wasn't real, shit talker. A Florida woman was bitten in

1880
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 2: the face while trying to kiss a two hundred pound dog.

1881
01:42:44,040 --> 01:42:46,839
Speaker 2: What Florida one was bending in the face early Wednesday

1882
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 2: morning while trying to kiss a two hundred pound bull

1883
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 2: massive dog that had been rescued only a few days prior.

1884
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 2: Justin Norman and Andrea Swarthwood had just returned home from

1885
01:42:58,160 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 2: a local bar in Brooksville, Florida, when the doll became aggressive.

1886
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 2: The dog had been rescued from Florida, Florida City a

1887
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 2: week or so before the incident by Tiffany and Taylor Evans,

1888
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: two other residents at the house. Taylor Evans told the

1889
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: dog told the police the dog had never shown aggression before.

1890
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 2: For unknown reasons, Swartwood approached the dog and leaned down

1891
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 2: in to a timpt to kiss the dog on the face.

1892
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 2: This was older than the dog biting Swartwood on the face,

1893
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 2: specifically on her left check, cheek and left area. Norman

1894
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 2: stepped in the intervene and had his hand left bitten

1895
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 2: by the dog. They managed to corry the dog into

1896
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 2: a bedroom of called police. They responded took Swartwood to

1897
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 2: the hospital. She was led to transferred to a trauma

1898
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,879
Speaker 2: center for her injuries to be addressed by a plastic surgeon.

1899
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: It is a two hundred pounds dollar. The dog was

1900
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 2: picked up by adamal enforcement officer.

1901
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 3: Huh, that dog decides was a horse too. Dog?

1902
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the doll was picked up by animal enforcement

1903
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 2: and dropped off with the county Animal Services as residents

1904
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: were no longer able to care for it. Caring guess

1905
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 2: the race of the woman who tried to kiss the

1906
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 2: dog white? All right, let's check the chatter and see

1907
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: what they believe. White bites, white dog kissing white white Beethoven.

1908
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: The dog said, bitch, get out my face. White bitch,

1909
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,960
Speaker 2: get out of my face. This is that white woman

1910
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 2: justin got into it with a the white mall. The

1911
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 2: dog smelled that male on her breath. White rod will

1912
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 2: invite her to the cookout to make her feel better.

1913
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: White my dog is my kid. White dog wanted so

1914
01:44:38,680 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 2: white meat, some white meat, once bitten twice white. The

1915
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 2: correct answer is and I don't have a picture of her, guys,

1916
01:44:46,120 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: but come on, white, Come on, buddy, I don't need

1917
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: to see a picture. We all know.

1918
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 3: That's the white one. Buddy.

1919
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the bonus round, double up,

1920
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 2: saying the race, double up, saying the race. That's right,

1921
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 2: double the points, double the race, and a bonus final

1922
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 2: against the race. So far caring is one and one.

1923
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:30,080
Speaker 2: Let's see if she can go three for three, I

1924
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: mean two for three for three, yep, yep, double points.

1925
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Do the racism. Don't make me stab the dog, said

1926
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Sunday charge in pursuit standoff involving stolen van, charges

1927
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 2: of foul Tuesday, June eleventh against Kaylin's Sunday thirty one

1928
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: of Pelwaukee, in connection with a pursuit and five hours

1929
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: standoff involving a stolen mini van on Tuesday, June fourth,

1930
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 2: now I ninety four and Highway sixty. She faces charges

1931
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 2: of driving or operating the vehicle without an owner's consent,

1932
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 2: failing the bell, jumping, failure to comply with officers, attempt

1933
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 2: to take a person in custody as party to a crime,

1934
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 2: failure to comply with officers, attempt to take a person

1935
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 2: in custody, strike police, fire, animal, using a dangerous weapon,

1936
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 2: cause of injury, attempting to flee or a loo An officer.

1937
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 2: According to a criminal complaint, it all started with a

1938
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 2: report of burglary in Germantown the June third, the day

1939
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 2: before the pursuit. In the standoff, a man told police

1940
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 2: his parents' home had been burglarized while they were in

1941
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. A vehicle was reported missing from the garage.

1942
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 2: The mini van involved in the pursuit and standoff. A

1943
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 2: handgun official said Nathan Halfman was in possession of was

1944
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 2: also taken in this burglary, The complaint said. The man

1945
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: interviewed by police indicated Kaitlin Sunday couldn't be could have

1946
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,599
Speaker 2: been in his parents' home. The complaint said. Sunday said

1947
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 2: that the band belonged to a customer who pays her

1948
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 2: for sex. She said it was half his idea to

1949
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,919
Speaker 2: go to the customer's home and take property to satisfy

1950
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 2: an outstanding debt. She said she went this ain't grand theft.

1951
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 2: Autoh you can't just do that, she said. She went

1952
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 2: along to make sure he didn't trash the place, she said,

1953
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 2: half being found a pistol in keys to the van.

1954
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 3: She said.

1955
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: She drove the van away from the German town home.

1956
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: The next day, June fourth, of park superintendent at Kettle

1957
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Moraine State Forest had contact with a vehicle at the campground.

1958
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 2: It was found parked near a campsite with no proof

1959
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: having been registered for the site, and was illegally parked.

1960
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 2: At one point, the complaints said, a female jumped into

1961
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 2: the driver's seat and drove away. Around four to fifteen pm,

1962
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:44,600
Speaker 2: a warden on routine patrol observed a minivan parked in

1963
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 2: the lot, matching the description of the vehicle from an

1964
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 2: earlier incident. It was found that the mini van didn't

1965
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 2: have a State Park interest sticker in the windshiel as required.

1966
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 2: A man and the woman were found in the minivan.

1967
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 2: At one point, the complaints said, the woman put the

1968
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: minivan in reversus the warden. Yelle ma'am stopped, she drove

1969
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: off at the shruggling shoulders and smiling duah. So then

1970
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,759
Speaker 2: the water pursued the mini van and so then yep

1971
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: had learned they had been listed to stolen. The complaint

1972
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 2: said stop sticks was set on Highways ZZ at the

1973
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 2: beginning of a construction zone where workers were resurfacing pavement.

1974
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 2: A deputy was unable to set the spike strips in time.

1975
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: At one point in the construction zone, wait, hold on

1976
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: this article, just moved on me. Oh, The complaint said,

1977
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,639
Speaker 2: a large destruction truck attempted to cut the minivan off,

1978
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 2: but the minivan went on to the to the right

1979
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 2: of the truck. At Highway sixty seven, the van briefly

1980
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 2: came to a stop at a stop sign due to

1981
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: traffic turning. Turning left to head north on Highway sixty

1982
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,879
Speaker 2: seven required several other drivers to stop to avoid collision.

1983
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 2: Stop sticks were deployed at Upper Janice Lake Road and

1984
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: the minivan swore to avoid the sticks, but both drivers

1985
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 2: side tires ended up to flate it. More stop sticks

1986
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: were deployed at a different road, which were hit by

1987
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 2: the van. Even more stop sticks were deployed at Blue

1988
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 2: Ridge Road.

1989
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:12,480
Speaker 3: It was this man of transformer.

1990
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 2: The ship was some some fast and furious shits.

1991
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,879
Speaker 3: And this is what it is that need for speed.

1992
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 2: As a pursuit passed to Blue Ridge Road. Ever, againting

1993
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 2: the incline towards I ninety four, I overpassed the deputy

1994
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: guid in position to perform a pitt maneuver. All that

1995
01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 2: they go to at this point them you don't know

1996
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 2: how to get your ass out of that. You're gonna

1997
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 2: be You can't get out of that. They get you

1998
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 2: in that pitt maneuver, It's over at this point, the

1999
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 2: complaints said, the man the van leaned out the front

2000
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: passer seat holding a black hand gun, initially pointed at

2001
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 2: the warden and then pointed at the deputy. The warden

2002
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,599
Speaker 2: drew a service weapon and ain't at the passer side

2003
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 2: of the van. Through the windshield, the deputy road down

2004
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 2: this window fired two shots at the van. God damn

2005
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 2: they was on some motherfucker. They john Wick shit, which

2006
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 2: swerved into a guard rail, came to a stop on

2007
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 2: the east side of I ninety four overpassed. Sunday had

2008
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 2: told investigators either she nor Halfman were struck, and said

2009
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: half Men did fire the police. This this one the standoffensive.

2010
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 3: No, this most of the story.

2011
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 2: The complaint said. Contact was made with Nathan Halfman, who

2012
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: indicated he was he had a hostage According to the complaint,

2013
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 2: Sunday said the suspect had a gun to her head.

2014
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,759
Speaker 2: Sunday indicated her two month old baby was in the vehicle.

2015
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 2: What half minute, Sunday indicated Halfman had been shot in

2016
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 2: the knee. The complaint said the negotiations were halfened didn't

2017
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 2: go well as he didn't behave in a rational manner,

2018
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,759
Speaker 2: was extremely agitated. The complaint said half Man and Sunday

2019
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 2: would make demands and then hang up the phone. According

2020
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 2: to the complaint, law enforcement officials were very concerned about

2021
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 2: the possible child in the van. It was determined sunday

2022
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: children had been taken from her by Child protect the services.

2023
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 2: It was also not that they did not make any

2024
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 2: demands for diapers or formula for the baby, and it

2025
01:50:53,040 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 2: was suspected that they were lying about the baby being

2026
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 2: in the van. It was further determined that happened had

2027
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 2: been nicked, not at shot. The complaint noted throughout negotiations,

2028
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Sunday didn't seem to be very agitated and displayed no

2029
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 2: fear in a voice. It was suspected they would using

2030
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: control touches. Just during the negotiation, Sunday was streaming live

2031
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 2: to Facebook. During the standoffs during negotiations. The complaint said

2032
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 2: that half min at one point, pointing the gun after

2033
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 2: driver a side window the mini van pointed directly at

2034
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 2: the Sheriff's office Bearcat vehicle, but he did not fire.

2035
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 2: It was eventually decided gas would be deployed into the van.

2036
01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 2: Half minute Sunday exit the van. When the gas deployed,

2037
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: as two tactical officers approached the van, shots for fire,

2038
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 2: half it fell to the ground and send Sunday ran

2039
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 2: toward the east side of Highway sixty seven. According to

2040
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 2: the complaint, Sunday struggled to climb a chain leak fence

2041
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 2: on the side of the overpass. She then began to

2042
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 2: crawl through a tall through tall grass. Negotiators tried to

2043
01:51:51,720 --> 01:51:54,040
Speaker 2: get her a surrender. She indicated she had a knife,

2044
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 2: threatened to stab of police dog if it approached her, saying,

2045
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 2: don't make me stab the dog. I'm not dropping the.

2046
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 3: Knife, honey, you have to worry about that dog will

2047
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:02,120
Speaker 3: fucked you up.

2048
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 2: Gas was deployed. Sunday approached officers saying you're gonna have

2049
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 2: to kill me. A less lethal impact round was deployed

2050
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 2: and struck her in the lower back. She screamed and

2051
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 2: continued to walk across the highway. Sunday She was eventually

2052
01:52:15,640 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 2: taken into custy and deputies ordered to investigators fine whatever

2053
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 2: she stabbed the dog with. Officials said the k now

2054
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 2: just was stabbed by Sunday and that was It was

2055
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: treated and released. Sunday was interviewed on June fifth. She

2056
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 2: said half it was her boyfriend. They intended to drive

2057
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,000
Speaker 2: to find do like I guess with a half ounce

2058
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 2: of cocaine, six to fourteen grands of heroin and a

2059
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 2: and a smaller amount of meath.

2060
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:44,639
Speaker 3: They was slit. What did they say? That devil made

2061
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 3: me do it?

2062
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: Demons demens made me do it? Yeah, and a smaller

2063
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 2: amount of meath. She She said they opted not to

2064
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 2: because her drug customers there did not have enough money.

2065
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 2: She said meth was her thing, as she would her thing.

2066
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 2: You know, myth, that's my thing. She would purchase a

2067
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 2: ball of meth for one hundred and fifty dollars, then

2068
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 2: double her money when selling it. She admitted to use

2069
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 2: a heroin off and on. She said. On the way

2070
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 2: to fond due Locke, they stopped at horse Riders Park

2071
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 2: and palamirr palammrror Palamir pal Mirror, I don't know after

2072
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: oh Paul Mrror okay. After getting some heroin and crack

2073
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 2: cocaine and milwaukee all the drugs, she said, she grabbed

2074
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 2: the keys from half In and drove the Rainbow Springs,

2075
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 2: where they were approached by park police. Sunday said Happening

2076
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 2: told her to drive and admit it he was on.

2077
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 2: She said she thought about pulling over during the pursuit,

2078
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 2: but she didn't want to be in the middle of

2079
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 2: whatever Happened would do. She said, half In fire at

2080
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 2: police during the pursuit and the police fire back. Neither

2081
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 2: she nor half Men were struck, she said. Courting to prosecutor,

2082
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 2: she said during the standoff, half And began to freak

2083
01:53:57,040 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 2: out and put blankets up in the window so officer

2084
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,960
Speaker 2: couldn't seen. She said it was half of his idea

2085
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 2: to tell police there was a child in the van

2086
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 2: that hosts. The police was not approached and she went

2087
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 2: along with it. She said Halfving made several attempts that

2088
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: he statements that he didn't want to go back to

2089
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 2: prison and that he would shoot the officers at her

2090
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 2: as she said he held the pistiptore head at various

2091
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,920
Speaker 2: times she had half me wearing jack to cocaine. During

2092
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 2: the standoff, she said she ran out the gas was

2093
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 2: deployed into the van because she was afraid of the police.

2094
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: She said she armed herself with an underwire from her

2095
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 2: bride to defend herself from the dog.

2096
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 3: And she said she didn't a strong underwife.

2097
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean maybe she got some big ass hitties. I

2098
01:54:34,680 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: don't know how you had a dog stab a dog

2099
01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 2: with underwee. She said she didn't remember striking the doll,

2100
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,919
Speaker 2: but after the dog bad her, she was taken into custody.

2101
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:44,680
Speaker 2: She also was facing charges five Friday, June seventh, and

2102
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 2: connection with her alleged tempt to escape from the medical

2103
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 2: center she was taking to escape, according to the criminal complaints.

2104
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 2: On Thursday, she was informed she would be discharged from

2105
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 2: the hospital and take it to the Jack County jail.

2106
01:54:58,560 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Lord, this is the days of our career.

2107
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 2: This is a lot. It's almost done, prosecutor said. Sunday

2108
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 2: requested that a deputy opened the window, using the ivy

2109
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 2: pole as a cane to walk towards him, telling them

2110
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 2: open the window. I'm not going back to jail. The

2111
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,840
Speaker 2: debuty refused, at which point Sunday held the ivy pole

2112
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 2: as if she were going to hold a baseball bat,

2113
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Speaker 2: telling the deputy, I'm not going to jail, just shoot me.

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01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: The complaint said, she ignored repeated commands to drop the pole.

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01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 2: The deputy had to grab it from her drop it

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Speaker 2: to the floor. Courting to prosecutor, Sunday continued to resist.

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01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 2: I had to be assisted to the ground by the deputy,

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Speaker 2: where she kicked her legs at the deputy attempt to

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Speaker 2: get away, the deputy threatening to use his taser, and

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Speaker 2: the complaint said Sunday said, you wouldn't fucking taste You

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Speaker 2: won't fucking taze me. The deputy was eventually able to

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01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 2: get her the handcuffs. She was secured to a hospital bed.

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Speaker 3: You won't chase me.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was a termined. There were no further incident,

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01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 2: your injuries, and she could be discharged. So she was

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Speaker 2: placing in her strength chair and take it to jail.

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Speaker 2: She made her initial appearance in court and Bomba said

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Speaker 2: it's seventy thousand dollars. She also appeared on the charges

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Speaker 2: fouled in connection with the incidents that the prosecutor said

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01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 2: took place at the medical center and cash Bomb said

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Speaker 2: it thirty thousand dollars for that shit. So you get

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Speaker 2: in there at one hundred thousand dollars bond. All right, Karen,

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Speaker 2: guess the race?

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Speaker 3: Who is a longer story? White?

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Speaker 2: Karen is going with white. All right, Let's check the

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Speaker 2: chat room and see what you guys believe. All the drugs, white,

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01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: all of the drugs. Let's see what they say. Meth

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Speaker 2: campground not shot dead white white, white. Oh, myth wasn't

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01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: shot when she threatened the police dog. Super impossible, white woman.

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Speaker 2: This shit got more intriguing. Plot twisted Chernobyl white, grand theft,

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Speaker 2: auto crystal, opioid knights white, definitely white after all that bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Either the luckiest black people in all the creation of

2143
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 2: just some white people. The length of the story says white.

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Speaker 2: The dogs should have been her in the face, too white.

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 2: They're the police to tase her. White, white and high.

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01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 2: The correct answer is and everybody went with the same thing.

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01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 2: You all got it. She was white.

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Speaker 3: Oh they did that.

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01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 2: But he had him a ride of doe chick, didn't

2150
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Speaker 2: he good? Great?

2151
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 3: They did that. They did all.

2152
01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: He told her a lie about having a baby.

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01:57:31,160 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 3: In there. That was like, oh, your kids is gone.

2154
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 3: Ain't no kids in them.

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01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 2: It was on some Bonnie and Clyde ship to the end.

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for I guess the race time

2157
01:57:40,720 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: for sore ratchetess. All right, let's see who's wilding out

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01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 2: with these swords now? Sword will then suspect arrested on

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01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 2: multiple charges. A Sioux Falls man says a man had wait.

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Speaker 2: Sue Fall police says a man has been arrested for

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01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 2: drawing a sword on a group of people on Saturday

2162
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 2: afternoon shit. The incident occurred near Dakota Avenue and McLelland

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Speaker 2: Street in South Falls. Police said a group of people

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Speaker 2: was traveling in a van when they saw a man

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Speaker 2: throwing a bicycle onto the street. They stopped to check

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Speaker 2: out on the man. Police said that's when Stephen William Green,

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Speaker 2: forty five, from Soue Falls, walked back to his car,

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Speaker 2: pulled out a sword, and started walking toward the people.

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Speaker 2: Oh passages of the van returned to their vehicle and

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Speaker 2: alerted authorities. Officials later found Green with the sword at

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Speaker 2: the Strip Mall near Minnesota Avenue and Brooking Street. Green

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Speaker 2: is being charged to soily conduct drawn daily weapons and

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Speaker 2: aggravated assault m M. And yes he was all right. Guys.

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Speaker 2: That's it. We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Until next time, I love you, I love you too,

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Speaker 2: bah