1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Yea. Hey, no, you're a fan of Mr Show. Right, 2 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the old sketch comedy series. Not that old, is it? 3 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, it's uh, it's mid tour. Yeah, 4 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: god no, it makes me feel Oh that's just probably 5 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: about twenty years old now, but it's still holds up. 6 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: It really does. Hey everyone, I'm Ben. This is ridiculous 7 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: history and we are joined, of course, with a super producer, 8 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: Casey Pegram Casey, are you a fan of Mr Show? 9 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: It's my favorite show ever? Is that really? Oh? Yeah? 10 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: I love it. It's great. Yeah, it's a very very 11 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: influential show. I think he's been sincere. I think you're sincere. 12 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: Love that show? Can't he's up? Part? No you should. 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: You should beat yourself. But yeah, it's great as Casey 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: on the case. Wow, that's passion. He brought the gabble 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: down on that one. My man, he sure did, he 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: sure did. What does Mr Show have to do with this? 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh good, and I'm so glad you asked. Well done. 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: I think we should just play the clip. Let's do it, 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We have an announcement to make. 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: On July four this year, America will blow up the moon. 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: We had the technology. The time is now. Science can 22 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: wait no longer. Children are our future. America can, should, must, 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: and will blow up the Moon and we'll be doing 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: it during a full moon, so we make sure we 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: get it all. So what you just heard was the 26 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: beginning of a sketch of Mr Show where in two 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: guys from NASA announced to great fanfare their plan to 28 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: blow up the moon. Awesome, right, and it's seems so 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: ridiculous when when I first saw it, I imagine when 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: everybody else first saw it. Uh, we just assumed that 31 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: these were brilliant comedy writers, which is true. Yeah, it's true. 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: And I don't even know if they were aware of 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: this story because I don't think it really came out 34 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: until well after that episode was done, um or at 35 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: least Yeah, I'm pretty sure that this would not have 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: been widely known information at the time. Um, but yeah, 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: sure enough. UM. A handful of years ago, a physicist 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: by the name of Leonard Rifle did an interview where 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: he kind of spilled the beans on a little something 40 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: called Project A one one nine, which was a Cold 41 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: War era plot not really applaud It was more of 42 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: like a weird nuclear fireworks display um two. Yeah, shoot 43 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: a nuclear missile into the Moon to freak out the Russians. Yeah. 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: They they wrapped it in a couple of slightly more 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: scientific sounding terms. They called it a study of lunar 46 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: research flights or something that would help in answering quote 47 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: some of the mysteries and planetary astronomy and astrogeology and 48 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: freak out the Russians that was the main thing. Or like, 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: you know what we should do, We should just make 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: a clearly visible nuclear explosion on the Moon because Russia 51 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: can see it, and you know, that'd be that'd be cool. 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: That was their planning phase. Carl Sagan was in on it. Uh, 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: he was. He was a wee young type when this 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: was happening. I think he was still in school at 55 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: the time. This was in nineteen fifty eight, and as 56 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: you said, Nold, this did not come out until two thousand. 57 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: The documents detailing the project we're secret for a little 58 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: less than forty five years. And even today the US 59 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: government does not recognize this. They don't officially admit it 60 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: because it sounds so ridiculous. Yeah, and that Mr. Show 61 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: probably was in like the late nineties. Oh wow. Yeah, 62 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: it's like mid mid to late ninety so they did 63 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: they didn't know. Wow, total parallel thinking. Good job Bob 64 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: oden Kirk and David Cross and the team of writers 65 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: who made that show possible. Yeah, I think you know 66 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: the way people say um headlines today, you can't tell 67 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: if it's like the onion or not. Yeah, there's there's 68 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: been numerous times where Mr. Show is like eerily predicted 69 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: the future. He you were going, you were doubling down 70 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: on Mr Show, my friend. Now we got a second 71 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: installment of Casey on the Case, right, So so blessed today. 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: I know we're we're doubling up, right, We're case Rich, 73 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: We're Casey Rich. My my grinch heart just grew three sizes. 74 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: I can see it in a little frame. It just 75 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: burst out in your chest. Yeah. Still pretty dark though. Uh. 76 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: Dr Leonard Rifle was I believe seventy three when he 77 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: gave this interview in two thousands as correct. Yeah, and 78 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: he says himself that despite their stated aims on paper quote, 79 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: it was clear that the main name of the proposed 80 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: Debton was a pr exercise and a show of one upsmanship. 81 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: The Air Force wanted a mushroom cloud so large it 82 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: would be visible on Earth because the US, according to 83 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: their own estimations, was lagging behind in the space race. 84 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: Was he like from chap a quittic or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 85 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: yeah he was. It just what a you know, spice 86 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: up the voice a little bit, like believable way I 87 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: like it? No, it's I was. I was there with you. 88 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: And so this whole idea of what upsmanship, though, Ben 89 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: this was a theme. This was kind of what the 90 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: Cold War was all about, right, because it was like, 91 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: we got nukes, You got nukes. Who's gonna do what? First? 92 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: You know, We're going to develop a nuclear submarine. We're 93 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna develop a nuclear submarine. I think I I read 94 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: in one of these thinking the Vice article by Harry 95 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: Cheatle that at one point the US was considering um 96 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: developing a nuclear powered spaceship. And the thing was, we 97 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: weren't doing so hot in the space race because sput 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Nick was a thing, right, and we had not yet 99 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: gone to the moon, and so we were desperately kind 100 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: of trying to scrabble for purchase and showing our might 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: over the Russians in some way. What better way to 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: do that than to shoot a missile at the moon. 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, got crazy and that pitch so much blow 104 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: you know what it does sound like it was. It 105 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: was something allowing those lines of people just stuck in room. 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: So this this research conducted the team that we're talking about, 107 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: By the way, there were ten people in it. They 108 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: were led by Leonard Rifle at the Illinois Institute of 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: Technology in Chicago, and what they were tasked with studying 110 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: was the potential visibility of the explosion and he benefits 111 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: to science and as well implications for the lunar surface. Now, 112 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: Carl Sagan was just kind of in the camp of 113 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: the benefits to science segment. I believe he was looking 114 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: at the way dust particles would they know. Maybe that 115 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: was more about how it would look, maybe a combination 116 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: of the two. I think it was because your spot on. 117 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: He was attempting to build a mathematical projection of how 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: a dust cloud in space around the Moon would work 119 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: and whether that would obscure the visibility of the explosion. 120 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: That was one of the big questions. So it was 121 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: both the implication for the surface of the Moon and 122 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: the visibility. Initially they said let's use a hydrogen bomb, 123 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: but the problem was from the air force perspective that 124 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: a hydrogen bomb was going to be too heavy to 125 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: be useful, So then they tried to use a small, 126 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: lightweight warhead that had a one point seven kill it's 127 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: un yield. This is when they had developed intercontinental ballistic missiles, 128 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: right yeah, I c b M so, so hitting the 129 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: moon with with the right type of missile is not 130 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: as tough. It's just the big question is will it 131 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: be visible? You know? And then I mean there's no 132 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: doubt from from from reading these interviews with Rifle that 133 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: this was within the realm of possibility to accomplish their 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: As of course that slightly nagging concern of what if 135 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: there's a malfunction and the rocket kind of crashes back 136 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: into Earth or like sling shots off the moon or 137 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: something like that. Right yeah, certainly rife with potential problems. Um, 138 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: but where what happened next? So at this point they're 139 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: they're still evaluating this and they think they think they've 140 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: come up with a plan. So just for contrast, this 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: warhead that they decided to use, the WI it is 142 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: a very low yield one point seven KILLO tons I said, 143 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: for comparison, Little Boy, the bomb that was dropped over 144 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: Hiroshima was between thirteen and eighteen killo tons, So this 145 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: is not as big as bombs we've already dropped here 146 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: on planet Earth. They thought, okay, we can hit it 147 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: at the dark side of the Moon, the hidden side 148 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: of the Moon. The dust cloud from the explosion will 149 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: be lit up by the sun and you can see 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: that from Earth. And due to as you said, no, 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: the development of I C b ms, they believed that 152 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: they could make this launch feasible by next year, by nine. 153 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: How big is the moon? Man? How big is the Moon? 154 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I have a feeling how how how big is it? 155 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: The Moon's actually only six thousand, seven eighty six miles 156 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: in circumference, whereas the Earth is twenty four thousand, nine miles. 157 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: So the reason I'm asking this, yeah, it's it's all 158 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: very silly questions. Um, but you know, I would think 159 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: couldn't this like cause problems with like the tides and stuff. 160 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it isn't the Moon responsible for regulating the tides? 161 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: And if you damaged it or I don't know, I mean, 162 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: I guess the nuclear blast wouldn't blow up the Moon. 163 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: That's a misnomery, which just cause a big old crater 164 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: I I looked into this. Okay, So first off, we 165 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: know that they just wanted to make a visual splash. 166 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: They just wanted to scare the Moon a little bit, right, 167 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: But if they attempted to actually blow it up, it 168 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: would take much, much, much more than the nuclear armaments 169 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: that we currently possess, or especially that we possess then 170 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: people have estimated the first off, to blow up the Moon, 171 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: you would need uh, six hundred thousand of the largest 172 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: atomic weapons ever built, the Starbamba, the Soviet r D 173 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: S two twenty hydrogen bomb. It's the most powerful explosive 174 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: that's ever been detonated ever by human kind back in 175 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: We need six hundred thousand of those. Not only would 176 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: we need six hundred thousand, we couldn't shoot them from Earth. 177 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: We would have to dig into the Moon, distribute them evenly, 178 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: and then detonate them, which would take centuries. Nobody's going 179 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: to do that. That is a scale of international cooperation 180 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: that has never existed, or like something like some kind 181 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: of fictional supervillain might consider doing. Yeah, it's like a 182 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: doctor Doom thing. But this did remind me of something 183 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: we were talking about off air that we thought you 184 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: would enjoy fellow ridiculous historians. The author Neil Stevenson, in 185 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: the book Seven Eaves, takes a hard sci fi look 186 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: at what would happen if the moon actually exploded, and 187 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: he does it in a way that is not a 188 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: spoiler for the book, for the plot of the book. Rather, So, 189 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: I think we're okay to read this, but if you 190 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: consider these things spoilers, then this is your official warning. 191 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: No one, can you help me out with a spoiler? Countdown? Three, two, one, 192 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: spoiler time. Okay. So the first sentence of Neil Stevenson 193 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: seventies is the moon blew up without warning and for 194 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: no apparent reason. That's how the That's how the novel starts. 195 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: But what people quickly find is that when the moon 196 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: blows up, pieces of it remain and they start falling 197 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: toward Earth. So in in the story seventies, the moon 198 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: breaks up into about seven more or less equal size pieces, 199 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: and for a while they just orbit Earth. But then 200 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: two of the pieces collide and that causes a fragment 201 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: that makes future collisions more likely, and it keeps repeating 202 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: at an exponentially growing rate until Earth is under this 203 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: constant bombardment from meteorites, and they wipe out almost all life. 204 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: The sky is ablaze. So it's it's not a good 205 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: idea for us to blow up the Moon, just in 206 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: case anyone was on the fence about that. But one 207 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: thing I thought, uh that that was interesting too, is 208 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: the idea that just detonating a nuclear device, even a 209 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: relatively small one, on the Moon, could have effects on 210 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: certain aspects of it. Right. I don't believe that single 211 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: missile employed from Project A one one nine would be 212 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: powerful enough to alter orbit, or maybe I'm just being hopeful. 213 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: I hope it wouldn't. Me too, Ben, me too. But Ben, 214 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: did you read that the Russians had a counter plan 215 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: to blow up the Moon. I'm just gonna keep calling 216 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: it blowing up the moons. That just sounds way more, 217 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: way more fun. Detonating a nuclear device on the surface 218 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: of the Moon. Well, what's the what's the Russian equivalent? 219 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: What were they kicking around? Well, then the Russians plan, 220 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: according to a cool article in the New York Post, 221 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: called USA and USSR plan to nuke the Moon out 222 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: of existence. That's a little hyperbolic there, I like it. 223 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: There's what's called um Project E four and um. Their 224 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: idea was to hit the moon with their own missile, 225 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: but there were you know, same pitfalls as as as 226 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: our issue, and this this fear that the missile could 227 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: like boomerang off the Moon and you know, come back 228 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: and hit the hit the Earth, or that I could 229 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, malfunction in midflight and fall down on the 230 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: heartland Missouri or something like that. Who knows, this is 231 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: just the dumbest Moscow Cold war competition ever. No, it's 232 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's as you would like to put 233 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: a cartoon isshn, Yeah, it really is. It's like some 234 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: seriously liney tunes bananas business. Now, in the USSRS defense, 235 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: they sort of eased into it. I'm saying that because 236 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: this was part of a series of proposals, all of 237 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: which bore the code name E Project. E one was 238 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: just like, here's how we're going to reach the moon. 239 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: E two and E three were like, okay, once we 240 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: reach it, here's how we send a probe to the 241 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: dark side of the moon to take some photos. And 242 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: then E four was like, here's how, stay with me, 243 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: we launch a nuke at the moon. And who knows, 244 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe it was another room of ten people just walking 245 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: around going yeah, yeah, that's great, that's great. Okay, a 246 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: probe is good. But you know what we should do, 247 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I do know what you mean, Ben, 248 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I do know what you mean. And you know, it'd 249 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: be pretty cool to go outside and have like a 250 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: moment with the family where like kind of like watching 251 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: an eclipse, you know, where you watch the mushroom cloud 252 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: appearing on the moon. That would be pretty intense, But 253 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I think it would really instill some national pride in US. 254 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: You know that we're smart country who does smart things 255 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: while for good reasons, while we were still able to 256 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: think those things right. Well, the Vice article makes a 257 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: really good point about how like, in the same way, 258 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: we're experimenting with drones so much, and everyone's just so 259 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: hot for the new technology that we have now militaristically 260 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: that the generals and the folks in charge of the time, 261 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: we're really into exploring the power of nuclear energy. Yeah. 262 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point too. You know, everybody's 263 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: so excited about this new technology. I mean, look at 264 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: all the ridiculous things that we are attempting to do 265 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: with drones, both in the commercial and private and public service. 266 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Fear but you know what's most disturbing to me about 267 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: this story with Project A one one nine. It's not 268 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: that it didn't happen. It's that the head scientist isn't 269 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: sure why it never came to fruition. That's in the 270 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: Vice article as well. He says he was horrified that 271 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: such a gesture to sway public opinion was ever considered. 272 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: And we've, you know, on a couple of different shows 273 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: here at How Stuff Works. You and I both have 274 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: dove head first into very strange plans by Uncle Sam 275 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: to do one ridiculous thing or another. What was it. 276 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: There was the bat bomb, there was the cyber cat spy, 277 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: there was the what they called the gay bomb. They 278 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: had some terrible ideas. Yeah, it's true. I mean, there's 279 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: certainly been a lot of hair brained schemes throughout military history, 280 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and this was one that I was not personally aware of. 281 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: It one of the hair brained beast. Well, let's say 282 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: that you are listening to this episode and you have, uh, 283 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: you have been sold on the idea. You respectfully disagree 284 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: with your pals here at Ridiculous History, and you say, 285 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: you know what, I've thought about it, and we should 286 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: blow up the Moon. We should at least try our 287 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: best to knock the crap out of it a couple 288 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: of times with some nukes. I mean, the Moon's gotta comment. 289 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Look at that face. It's got the most punchable face. 290 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: It always just pushes. It's just pushing. I like, how 291 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: where anti moon? Yeah? Man, the moon. You're seeing the 292 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: mighty bush. I have you know that in the Moon. 293 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm the Moon. He's kind of an idiot. Well, 294 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't deserve to get nuke them does 295 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: not deserve to get nuked. No one does. And that's 296 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: why for those of us who support the plan to 297 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: blow up the Moon today maybe a tough day. This 298 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: might be a tough episode because you see, not only 299 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: did the project never come to fruition, but it will 300 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: probably not happen for the immediate to mid future because 301 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, the United Nations Outer Space Treaty 302 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: banned the use of nukes in space, making any study 303 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: of nuking the moon fun illegal. Nukes in space the 304 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: heady days of the fifties to the early sixties, So 305 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: now we know why there is still a moon. That's great, 306 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: that's a great point all the trash I've been talking 307 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: about the moon. I'm kind of glad to have it. 308 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: I love it. And we recently had a blood moon 309 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: as we recorded this episode. Did you catch that? Did 310 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: you do any weird pagan rituals that night? Ben Na? 311 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Just the normal, normal, normal rituals. And so that is 312 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: our story of the moon. It's a little light, but 313 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: you know what it's it was. It was self contained. 314 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: We hit all the boxes. We talked about blowing up 315 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: the moon. You guys, you got to hear mr show clip. 316 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: What more do you want from us? How about a 317 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: little listener now? Okay, so our first one comes from 318 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Kimia in and Kimira wrote to us and said, howdy, 319 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the podcast, but I tend to skip around 320 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: to random episodes. Only started listening earlier this year, so 321 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of backlog for me too. I 322 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: think we only started making this earlier this year. Has 323 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: it been that long? I don't know how long it's 324 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: been that short, Casey, how long have we been doing 325 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: this show? How long have you been sitting in this room? 326 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: Let's see the first episode came out. O, whoa, it's 327 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: been a minute it's almost a year. Look at us 328 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: well anyway, So Commira says, I just listened to your 329 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: recent Napoleon Bunnies episode. The bunny story was totally hilarious 330 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: and I had to relate it to several of my friends. 331 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: But Os is super charmed with the anecdote about Napoleon's 332 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: maybe crush on the Czar and people shipping them. Since 333 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: you said you were curious and thick about the two 334 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: of them, I went spelunking and sure enough something came up. 335 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Although several of them were in languages other than English, 336 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: it does seem it's much more popular to ship Napoleon 337 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: with Arthur Wellesley. Though fick writers do love them, some 338 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: hate shipping. Anyhow, here the fix I did find when 339 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: Napoleon Alexander that we're in English, not that I have 340 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: read them full your convouchul quality. Ha ha uh. And 341 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: she posted one of these fan fiction links, and then 342 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: she posted a sequel, and then she posted another another 343 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: fan fiction and says in this one quote, Napoleon Bonaparte 344 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: works at Thomas Jefferson strip Club and falls for his 345 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: coworker Arthur Wellesley. Though it says it contains some Napoleon 346 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: Alex stuff as well. I loved your episode on the 347 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: history of mooning, which I listened to earlier tonight. Thanks 348 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: again for producing such an enjoyable podcast. Caim here, thank 349 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: you for checking out the show and doing that research 350 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: for us. I will you know, I'm I'm gonna go 351 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: out on limb and say this stuff probably isn't my thing, 352 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: but I am going to read through to see if 353 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: there is one that is safe for work, and if 354 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: it is, we'll go ahead and post it on ridiculous historians. 355 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: What do you think we've seen that been an all 356 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: fan pick this floating around out there? I have not. 357 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: I have not. Did you write it pretty steamy? Did 358 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: you write it? No? Maybe there's not though right, there's not. 359 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, oh man, the tension. Okay, who's next? Next? 360 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: We have a quick one from Rex Wesley are great name. Um, 361 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: He just says, had to chime in on some listener 362 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: mail you got about accents. As someone who was raised 363 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: in both Georgia and California, I was usually told I 364 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: had one when I was in California, but when I 365 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: was in Georgia, I would get grief for not having one. 366 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: I have not lived in the South for many years 367 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: now and have lost it until I have had some drinks, 368 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: so kind of along the same lines of what we 369 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: talked about, then it seems to come out with a vengeance. 370 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for the show, Rex, Yeah, I saw that as well. 371 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Rex, and uh, I imagine that 372 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: you are not alone in that experience there. I've seen. 373 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I've got some friends who sound pretty neutral in their 374 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 1: American accents, but if they have a couple of drinks 375 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: or a couple of glasses of wine, they sound like 376 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Boston townies like that. Okay, I had to bring this 377 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: one up because I think you've seen this too, Bid, 378 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: But this is really interesting. It's called thoughts on the 379 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: Malor Wildlife Refuge. I mean, I'm still flummexed on the 380 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: pronunciation of that. Male. I'm gonna say Mallear the Mallard 381 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Wildlife Refuge episode plus a little blink one of you 382 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: two says, Hey, guys, love the podcast and many others 383 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: that you have your hands in. If you can make 384 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: it all the way to the end of this email, 385 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: you shall find a funny nugget regarding an episode from 386 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: one of your other shows. Wait, wait, point of order. 387 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I thought we were reading short ones. Woman, I'm gonna 388 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna summarize this one. It's mainly because it's like 389 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: some bullet point. I think this is a great I 390 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: think it's very interesting, says I just finished your episode 391 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: on the Wildlife Refuge and felt compelled to immediately right 392 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: to you. I imagine you've gotten some thoughts about this. 393 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: We have indeed got some thoughts on this one. Um, 394 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: but I'd like to throw my two cents in because 395 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: I believe, in the absolute core of my being in 396 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: the importance of preservation of all protected land in the 397 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: U S. And I suppose because of this, I felt 398 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: this episode surprisingly problematic and scary. I will try not 399 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: to make this too long, but a couple of points 400 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: that are burning behind my eyeballs. Once a way to 401 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: remove protections is found, this opens up a disastrous can 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: of worms that could spiral out of control, especially under 403 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: this administration. First, it's as innocent seeming as letting cows graze, 404 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: and the next thing you know, someone's figured out how 405 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: to get oil out of Yosemite. Secondly, preserving the biodiversity 406 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: of ecosystems surrounding farm land is essential to being able 407 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: to farm that land. I hate to be a cliche, 408 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: but it is quite literally a delicate balance, and once 409 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: that is disrupted, that domino effect would absolutely lead to 410 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: problems with the plants and animals that farmers rely on. 411 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: What's the solution, sustainable and responsible farming practices, Use the 412 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: land responsibly rather than barrel through and then ask for more. 413 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: Look at Easter Island for example. The running theory is 414 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: that the people on that island used up every last 415 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: resource they had and then they pretty much all died 416 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: or left because they could sustain themselves anymore. Bad plan. Uh. 417 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: That was really the points that I wanted to get to. 418 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: I think this is really interesting and something we did 419 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: not really discuss in the episode. The idea of the benefits. 420 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: We just gouss some of the sure pitfalls of of 421 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: some of this preservation, but not so much maintaining that biodiversity. 422 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I think that ecosystem point is essential, and I'm really 423 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: glad we got that on air. I think this is 424 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: also worth it. Alise, I think you have a great 425 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: story about Tom DeLong. You want to do that one? Sure? Yeah? Okay, 426 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: So Elise, you say about five years ago, I just 427 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: moved to l A. I went to one of their 428 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: last concerts as the former Blink one D two A Palma. 429 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: I was their agent at the time. So after the show, 430 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: a handful of us went to the green room for 431 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: post show business stuff or whatever it is they do. 432 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: We plopped down for a BS sesh. It's cool phrase 433 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: in Tom's dressing room and I saw that he has 434 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: stack of space books and the TV was just playing 435 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: loops of space videos. At some point, knowing Tom's affinity 436 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: for aliens, I began to ask about what was on 437 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: the TV. It was an immediately met with the chorus 438 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: of no no, no, no no no no no no no 439 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: no no no no no from everyone there who knew him. 440 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: They said, do not get him started on space. So uh, 441 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: at least goes on to say she managed to avoid that. 442 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: But Tom DeLong was a really nice guy and a 443 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: little bit weird, but overall very endearing. So this was 444 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: a great letter with some important points, some amusing anecdotes, 445 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and to explain for anybody who hasn't checked out our 446 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: other shows, stuff they don't want you to know. We 447 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: recently did an episode on Tom DeLong, who has quit 448 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Blink one D two to pursue his beliefs about unidentified 449 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: aerial phenomenon full time. That sounds about right. It does 450 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: sound about right, and it also sounds like the other 451 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: guys in Blink one any too. We're kind of being 452 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: bullies to poor Tom. So you know, let that boy 453 00:25:54,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: have his space. Yeah, and this concludes our listener mail. Okay, 454 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: but not our show. Let us know what other strange, secret, 455 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: hopefully hilarious cold war plans you have happened across in 456 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: your neck of the Global Woods. It doesn't have to 457 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: be just us stuff. We would love to hear a 458 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: weird plan from Australia, New Zealand wherever. You can make 459 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: these suggestions on Ridiculous Historians, our Facebook page, on our Instagram, 460 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: on our Twitter, you can emails directly where we are 461 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: ridiculous at how stuff Works dot com. As always, we'd 462 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: like to thank our super producer Casey Pegram, Alex Williams 463 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: who composed our theme, Christopher haciotas our researcher extraordinaire, and 464 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: we'd like to thank you. See you next time.