1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,079 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back. It's Fuesday morning. That 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: means it's another edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. We got a loaded mail bag this morning, 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: just a bounty, all different directions of questions, and we're 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: going to get to as many as we can. You 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: can send a question joshpat seven zero six at gmail 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: dot com. You can also DM me on Instagram on 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: Twitter at late Kick Josh. Make sure you're following there. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you right off the bat. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: I've got access obviously to audience measurement tools that you 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: guys don't get to see. But I try and tell 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: you as much as I can. Some of it I'm 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: not allowed to, but let me let me just fill 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: you in on something. You guys are killing it, absolutely 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: killing it. We're up in an area of the year 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: where we should be down in total podcast downloads. For example, 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: we're up over one thousand a month from last month. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: So that means a lot of big growth. But it 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: also means you understand exactly what I'm talking about when 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I say off seasons are not real, and if you 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: don't believe they're real, it's just like the ghost in 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: your closet when you were seven years old. Guess what, 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: he magically doesn't exist anymore. And so here we are 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: in the middle of May, and more people are listening 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: to the podcast than you were a month ago and 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the month before that. And it shoots down that whole 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: notion that you're supposed to take a break during the 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: See that word that almost came out of my mouth. 29 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Even though I am not of this society, I have 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: to live in the society. And you hear that dirty 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: o word all the time, and sometimes it almost creeps in. 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: But we don't take the lord's name in vain or 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: this sports name in vain around here. Oh and by 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: the way, before we begin, it's not just the podcast version. 35 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Our late Kick Live YouTube version did incredible traffic Sunday night. 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: The kind of traffic we did last Sunday would be 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: great for a regular season show. And which goes back 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: to the message that I've continued to convey to you. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Everything around here is free. I'm not sending you to 40 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a Patreon channel. I'm not bemoaning people who do. Everyone 41 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: has to do their thing. Since I'm fortunate enough to 42 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: work for an actual network here, I don't have to 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: be sending you behind paywalls for a lot of things. 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: The key there is you got to be our marketing department. 45 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: And as long as you're the marketing department, you hang around, 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: you're listening, you're downloading, you're liking, you're subscribing, you're five 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: star reviewing on the podcast, and most importantly, you're spreading 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: word of the show with your own mouth, with your 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: own Twitter account, with your own Instagram account. As long 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: as you're doing that, nothing around here ever costs anything. 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: So not only are you guys doing that right now, 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: and I encourage all of you to do that. It 53 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: helps me obviously, but it helps you keep all that 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: money in your pocket. And thirdly, it allows us more 55 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: freedom to go to the high level mustaches around here 56 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: at CBS Sports, HQ and twenty four to seven Sports 57 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: and say you wanted the audience, Well, there's the audience 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: right there. Now. You got to let us feed them, 59 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and you got to give us permission to do it 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: our way, because that's what brought them to the table. 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: And you are well on your way to getting us 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: permission to do all that and then some. So before 63 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: we start, I just want to convey when you do 64 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. When you give us this kind 65 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: of positive forward momentum, you allow us the flexibility to 66 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: get a lot of yeses, to do a lot of 67 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: things that we want to do during the season from 68 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: all kinds of different angles, on all kind of different 69 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: platforms that will ultimately bring you an experience to where 70 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: you don't really need to go a whole lot of 71 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: other places. Everything you need to find, everything you want 72 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: to listen to or ingest from the world of college 73 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: football and betting included is right here. So with that 74 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: in mind, let's dive into the mail bag this morning. 75 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Jim is going to get us started. I want you 76 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: to listen to this one the whole way through because 77 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: it really hit home. At the very end, Jim says, 78 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: I know, having a great quarterback is the base need 79 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: for success playoffs minimum. But you could put Tom Brady 80 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: at Vanderbilt and they'd still stink. So how many teams 81 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: are out there that would truly benefit from a generational quarterback. 82 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm a Georgia alum. I've lived here all my life. 83 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I go through your hometown of Columbus three to five 84 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: times a year on the way to Panama City Beach, 85 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: which makes me the most average Georgian alive. It's so accurate. 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with average Jim. There's nothing wrong. I've 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: always been rubbed the wrong way when people look down 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: their nose at Panama City. By the way, some of 89 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: you are doing it as we speak, and I just 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you, search your heart. Why don't you 91 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: have to do that? Not everyone to PCB. I understand that. 92 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: But as a young child, young JP ventured down four 93 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: thirty one many a time. On his way. You got 94 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: to stop and you faul it to see the live alligators, 95 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: but then you continue on your way down to Panama City. Hey, look, 96 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: not all of us used hundred dollar bills for toilet 97 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: paper growing up. Some of us had to go to 98 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: the beach on a budget. They call it bobbing, and 99 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: beach on budget was how we lived when I was 100 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: a kid. So I went to Panama City many times. 101 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, if you were to look 102 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: at my power ratings, a worst sunburns in life, easily 103 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: several of the top five are going to be from 104 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: Panama City. Greatest rounds of putt putt ever played, several 105 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: of those rounds are going to be from Panama City. 106 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: So I've got a soft spot in my heart for PCB. 107 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: If you're about the destined life, I've lived it. I 108 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: like it. Golf Shores love it. Used to go to 109 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: a family reunion down there. I love Golf Shores so much. 110 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: I went on a family reunion several times that wasn't 111 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: even my family. Also where I saw my first tornado. 112 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: More on that much later. But I say all that 113 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: to say I love the Gulf Coast. Now, as for 114 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the actual question, Jim, you are right, Vanderbilt could not 115 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: be resurrected with the greatest quarterback in America this year, 116 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: nor could several other programs, so we could scratch them 117 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: off the list. But here's what I think about, Jim. 118 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: I think about the penn States of the world. I 119 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: think about Notre Dame. These are programs already top fifteen caliber, 120 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: but you know there's a hard ceiling on them. It's 121 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of ironic when you look at some of these 122 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: preseason rankings. Any given year, you may take a team 123 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: like Notre Dame and they're a really good, solid team. 124 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: They're a very very good team, but you know they 125 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: don't have elite quarterback play. They haven't they haven't under 126 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly had elite quarterback play yet. So if you 127 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: were to go back and look at let's say the 128 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Ian Book era, or right now the Jack Cone era 129 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: is beginning, if you look at him, you would rank 130 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: Notre Dame above Texas going into the season, as would I. 131 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: But yet, if you told me one of those two 132 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: teams is going to win the national championship this year, 133 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: I'd actually be more inclined to guess it's Texas. I 134 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: don't think Texas has much of a shot of doing that, 135 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: and I think Notre Dame's got a much better chance 136 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: of making the playoff than Texas. But if I were 137 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: to look at the absolute maximum potential, if everything were 138 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: to fall in place, Texas has probably got more dynamic 139 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: quarterback play, the right guy calling the shots, and a 140 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: good enough talent roster to where they probably could swing 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: higher than Notre Dame. Of course, they could swing much 142 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: lower than Notre Dame this year, too, so Notre Dame 143 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: would be one of those teams. I'd love to see 144 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: a team like Iowa. I think they fit this description. 145 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what Graham Mertz is going to do 146 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: for Wisconsin. I think they could overachieve this year offensively, 147 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: but certainly with the returning talent in the wide receiver room. 148 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: If I were to put a dynamic quarterback, if I 149 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: were to drop dj uy Angolilea in Madison, Wisconsin, think 150 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: that'd be fun to watch. You always wonder about teams 151 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: like Michigan State. You could go down to the SEC. 152 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknown right now, relatively speaking about 153 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position at Arkansas. What if I were to 154 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: drop one of those guys at Arkansas, given all the 155 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: other increases and forward upward trajectory of that program in general, 156 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: what would major quarterback play do there? How about Texas 157 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: A and M. How about Texas A and M would 158 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: be a prime national championship contender, not just a fringe 159 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: playoff contender if you could guarantee me elite quarterback play 160 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: this year. Florida did a, Florida State didto, Miami didto 161 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: There are a number of programs usc if I could 162 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: know what I was going to get there. Oregon is 163 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: already going to be a playoff contender. Anthony Brown, we 164 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: think is going to be the guy there, but we 165 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: don't know what level of play we're going to get 166 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: from him. Washington is the same way here. I think 167 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: I could probably just spend the rest of the podcast 168 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: actually asking which team in America, if they had the 169 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: most important position in all of American sports solved, would 170 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: be a viable contender this year. That list would be 171 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: pretty long. So God blessed quarterback play, and God bless 172 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: the Gulf Coast. Let's go to Shelley's question. This is 173 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: kind of interesting and really ties into a conversation I 174 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: just had within the past week, so I'll share with 175 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: you what I can. Shelley asked, what do you think 176 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: about the future of the sports psychology industry in college football? 177 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Now I could have easily paraphrased what she said and 178 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: just said what do you think about sports psychology and 179 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: college football? But I wanted to include the word industry. 180 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Shelley did, and I wanted to quote her accurately, but 181 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: also include that word because she's right. It is absolutely 182 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: an industry, growing industry, no different than sports science is 183 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: every day a growing industry. Data and analytics every day 184 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: a growing industry. Some programs take it very seriously. They 185 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: have several staff positions and a large chunk of their 186 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: budget carved out for it. Others don't take it seriously 187 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: at all, but Shelley, most of the big boys do 188 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: take it seriously. So I was talking to someone this 189 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: past week about a pretty high profile position. I don'tly 190 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: want to arrow it down to position, but a guy 191 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: whose name you're recognize in the world of college football 192 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: this coming season, and we were talking about sports psychology, 193 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: and we were talking about how this particular player, I mean, 194 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: he has regularly exposed himself to the aspects of sports 195 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: psychology since long before he was in college even and 196 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: I think maybe some people are predisposed to look at 197 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: that as a red flag or a negative. It's not 198 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: always that at all. In fact, here's the way the 199 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: person broke it down to me, and this person has 200 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: a background in this field. The person said, do you 201 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: take any supplements whatsoever? Now they know me, they know 202 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: I work out every day, so they knew the answer 203 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: was going to be yes. I said yeah. They said 204 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: what do you take? And I said, well, among other things, 205 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I listed a multi vitamin and they said, well, that's 206 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: a big red flag, isn't it. I said, no, how 207 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: is it a red flag? I'm doing it, So there 208 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: aren't any red flags and the person just sat there 209 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: in silence. And it's one of those deals where instead 210 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: of calling someone stupid, you just let them figure out 211 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: that they made a stupid point on their own. Remember, 212 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: smart people say stupid things sometimes. Stupid people rarely say 213 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: smart things. And so well, let's hope, let's just hope 214 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: fingers crossed that I was the smart person who stumbled 215 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: upon the stupid saying at the moment, because then I said, oh, 216 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: I get it. Okay. So this person, the person we're 217 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: talking about, the position player, is seeing a sports psychologist 218 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: preemptively so that in the future they can avoid getting 219 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: themselves into a bad mental headspace that they need help 220 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: to dig out from. They said, yes, no, different than 221 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: when you take that multivitamin. You're not on an episode 222 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: of My six hundred pounds Life right now. You didn't 223 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: wait until things got bad to start trying to take 224 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: care of your help. You're doing it even as you're 225 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: relatively healthy, so that you preemptively cut off any risk. 226 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: And that's the same way that this works, Shelley. Now 227 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about one person there, and they've independently done 228 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: it before. They we're in a major college program, but 229 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: entire major college programs are doing this too. Now here's 230 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: where I think it's headed Shelley. As we get name, 231 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: image and likeness and the ability for guys to individually 232 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: profit at different levels relative to their overall brand value, 233 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: you could have some issues creep into sports. In fact, 234 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible. I think it's very very 235 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: likely that you could have in any given locker room 236 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: some fragmentation where your star wide receiver is making X 237 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: number of endorsement dollars and social media influencer dollars, and 238 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: your right guard, which makes it all possible, is getting 239 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: fractional amounts of that, and you could have some people 240 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: rubbed the wrong way. I think that's where sports psychology is. 241 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: How do you make sure that you have enough mental 242 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: harmony and enough cohesiveness in your locker room when you're 243 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: introducing new elements into that world that directly impact your 244 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: locker room and the team chemistry. How do you keep 245 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: all that balanced? Because I don't care. If you're the 246 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: greatest offensive line coach in the world and you can 247 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: coach your own blocking schemes till the cows come home 248 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: and perfect the craft, you probably are not equipped to 249 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: deal with that side of things, because that's not a 250 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: side of the game that you've really had to worry 251 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: about at the college level. So someone else is going 252 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: to have to take charge there and take the reins there. 253 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: That's why I think sports psychology is probably headed at 254 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: the college level. Shelly we roll on. Here a quick reminder. 255 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: I like to mix these in throughout the show instead 256 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: of doing five minutes of announcements at the front. If 257 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you're looking to book a Zoom consultation with me, several 258 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: of you are doing this now on repeat. I've got 259 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: some people that are doing them once a week. I'm 260 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: very happy to do it as I can fit you in. 261 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com, or 262 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: you can DM me at late kick Josh on Instagram 263 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: on Twitter ask that you follow me there too. I'll 264 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: fit you in as I can. These are very good, 265 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: it's very in depth. We don't waste any time on this. 266 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: It's one on one. I do it via Zoom and 267 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: it's everything from you wanting to potentially get into the 268 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: sports media world, to start your own podcast, to start 269 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: your own YouTube channel, and understanding how to properly leverage 270 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: this stuff. A lot of you want to make money 271 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: on it. A lot of you are doing jobs you 272 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: don't really necessarily want to do for the rest of 273 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: your life right now, and you probably think you have 274 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: some God given talent and you certainly have the passion. 275 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: You're just trying to find where those areas overlap, Where 276 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: do those things intersect, Where does passion and talent intersect. 277 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Is there potentially a career there for you? Sometimes the 278 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: answer is yes. You never know until you explore it, though, 279 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: So hit me up and we can work on that together. 280 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's continue. I'm not gonna answer this one yet. 281 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna push it to the end only because it's 282 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna be really in depth and it's gonna be a 283 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: long story, and I'm not gonna mix it right here 284 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of all the college football talk. But 285 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: a lot of you noticed yesterday was indeed the twenty 286 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of the movie Twister coming out. You know 287 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: my affinity for that movie. You know my affinity for 288 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt and Philip Seymour Hoffman and 289 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: the like Aunt Meg shout out at Meg, and you 290 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: know my affinity for Stormchasing. In fact, some of you 291 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: saw some things I put up in my Instagram story overnight. 292 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: That was right when I was watching Twister. I got inspired. 293 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: There was some stuff that I'll talk about later on. Okay, 294 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna push it to the end because I 295 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: got a really good story I've never told any of 296 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: you before. I'm gonna really really front out one of 297 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: my friends. I won't mention him by name, maybe some initials, 298 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: but I'll put that at the very into the podcast. 299 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: So if you're interested in such things, stay tuned. All right, 300 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: Ben is up next, He said, I wanted to get 301 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: your thoughts on what a win looks like for Brian 302 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: Harson at Auburn in twenty twenty one. Does he need 303 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: a winning record? Does he need to beat Bama, LSU 304 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: or Georgia Or is twenty twenty one just about getting 305 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: culture turned around? Ben? It's yeah, it's about getting culture 306 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: turned around. Now. I'm not gonna sit here and tell 307 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: you record doesn't matter, because if he goes four and eight, 308 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: that's not good enough and that's going to be a problem. 309 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Not that gets you fired or anything like that. But 310 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: record matters, but it's not paramount in year one. Year 311 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: one is something that I'm looking at and I'm asking 312 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: how big is the problem there? Now. I don't believe 313 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: there's a big culture problem at Auburn. So not all 314 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: of these inherited jobs are the same. At Florida State, 315 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Mike Norvel, he had a situation that was a little 316 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: bit more unique than what Brian Harson inherited from Gus Malsan. 317 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: That was a train writ down there. This is not 318 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: a train wreck. You may have inferiority on parts of 319 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: your roster, and you certainly may need different personnel, but 320 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: that's not something where you're having to reprogram the minds 321 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: of all your players. You may even look at the 322 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: quarterback position and say, Bo Nicks, this quarterback as a 323 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: player is underdeveloped, but he's not a big character issue 324 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that. So I don't look at it 325 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: as a year zero like we do with some teams. 326 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: I look at it as a year one. You've got 327 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: enough talent on that roster to win. But I also 328 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: believe it's the hardest job in America, year in and 329 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: year out. And I've told you why before. I'd say 330 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: Auburn's the hardest job, relatively speaking, in major college football. 331 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: And as soon as I say it, someone comes and says, Nah, 332 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: it's a whole lot harder to win at Kent State 333 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: than it is Auburn. What sure is, but you know 334 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: what people expect at Auburn a whole lot more than 335 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: they expect from you at Kent State. So then you 336 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: could push back and say, well, hey, they got high 337 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: expectations at Georgia, they got high expectations. At Florida, they 338 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: do well. If you haven't noticed, folks, there's something Auburn 339 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: has that those programs don't have, and that is being 340 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: the only program in America that has to play Alabama, Georgia, LSU, 341 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M every single year. Auburn plays them. 342 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: And you know what else happens every single year for 343 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: those they finish way inside the top ten, in many 344 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: cases inside the top five in recruiting. So at Auburn 345 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: you got a pretty good roster, you're gonna still be 346 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: at a disadvantage unless you recruit at an elite level. 347 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna be at a roster disadvantage for a third 348 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: of your games every single year before you even kick 349 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: the ball off. That's what you walk in there knowing. Now, 350 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: if you start recruiting top three classes, several years in 351 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: a row. You can change that tune. But that's what 352 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Malzan was having to deal with there because he was 353 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: not recruiting better consistently or ever in some cases than Bama, 354 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: Georgia A, and M or LSU. And that's what Brian 355 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Harson walks into right now. That's why I think it's 356 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: the hardest job in America because no one looks at 357 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Auburn and says, since you have to play all those 358 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: teams and you're the only one that has to, we're 359 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: going to lower our expectation level. At least the Auburn 360 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: fan base doesn't. The Auburn fan base looks at it 361 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: and says, well, here's how we see it. We invest 362 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the same way that our Georgia and Alabama buddies do, 363 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: and you get to recruit in the same geographical area 364 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: as our Georgia and Alabama rivals do. Therefore, we're giving 365 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: you everything that those programs are given. We want the 366 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: same thing in return that those programs can get. That's 367 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: why I think it may have been kind of dumbfounding 368 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: for an outsider to look at Gus Mauson and him 369 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: getting fired and have you make sense of it. But 370 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: if you're on the inside. It made perfect sense to 371 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of Auburn folks. You may have on the 372 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: outside looked at it and said, wait a second. The 373 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: only guy who's beaten Nick Saban multiple times, the guy 374 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: who was in the SEC championship game a few years ago, 375 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: went to a national championship game. You're getting rid of him? 376 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: And their answer was yeah. And if you ask them why, 377 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: they'd say, yeah, I will grant you all that what 378 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: you said is true. It's not good enough for us. Now. 379 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: You can question their standards. But what they're going to 380 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: look back at you and say is we're not investing 381 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: a quarter and asking for a dollar back. We invest 382 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a dollar, we want the dollar back. We want the 383 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: return on our investment. That's all we're asking for. And 384 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: if you don't like it, you're not one of us anyway. 385 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: So see you, So, Ben, My answer is, do we 386 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: see tangible improvement? A quarterback position is a good place 387 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: to start, But do you start to see some inroads 388 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: made in recruiting? Do you start to see a team 389 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: identity take shape again, even maybe in a loss. Do 390 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: you start to see something tangible that you can look 391 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: at as a viewer and say there, that's obviously what 392 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Auburn football is, and it's going to be in the future, 393 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: and it looks different than what it has been. Do 394 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: you start to see positions be fortified? Do you start 395 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: to see the sum of the parts provide a result 396 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: that is greater than those individual pieces, because that's what 397 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: you're looking for, a good to a great staff to 398 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: be able to do. And then off the field, I 399 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: look at Derek Mason specifically, but I look at a 400 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: lot of their recruiters and I start to wonder, is 401 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: anyone going to start overachieving relative to expectation? Those are 402 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: the things I'll start to look at in year one. 403 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: How's the energy? Are you able to detach the energy 404 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: and momentum and the forward thinking nature of the fan 405 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: base independent of what the result may be in the moment. 406 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: Jeff Collins has done it at Georgia Tech. Hopefully Hypel 407 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: can do it at Tennessee. Hopefully Shane Biemer can do 408 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: it at South Carolina, and hopefully Brian Harson can do 409 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: that at Auburn. Jordan up next. Jordan has a question 410 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: about trying to find a way to appease the playoff 411 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: expansionists and to keep the regular season every bit as 412 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: relevant as it is. I call it a unicorn. But 413 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: we will answer the question right after this, All right, 414 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Jordan says, everyone talks about playoff expansion to improve the sport. 415 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: I have a different perspective, to hopefully help the playoff 416 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: feel a little more like the BCS era and make 417 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: more teams feel like they have a shot at something 418 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: of meaning Towards the end of the year, what would 419 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: you think about expanding the New Year six instead of 420 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: expanding the playoff? Well, Jordan, I don't think it would 421 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: make much difference at all, only because you can't put 422 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: the toothpaste back in the two. Remember, some of us 423 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: always valued those games. Some of us think that good 424 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: football can exist without a playoff sticker on it, but 425 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: others don't. And so you notice this, take very close 426 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: observation of this. When you hear that crowd that talks 427 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: about needing to expand the playoff because that's the only 428 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: way to get more good football, that tends to be 429 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: the same crowd that voluntarily, unprompted looks at any non 430 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: playoff game in the bowl season it calls it meaningless. Again, 431 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: let's repeat that very slowly. Some people tend to go 432 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: on autopilot when we get into these podcasts a little ways, 433 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: including the host. You've got a crowd that tells you, 434 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: I want to expand the playoff, and you say, why, 435 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: We're fine at forward keeps urgency in the regular season 436 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: and gives a postseason format. And that crowd that wants 437 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: to expand the playoff says, I want more good football. 438 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: Why would you say no to more good football? And 439 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: then you look them back and you say, wait a second, 440 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: you want more good football? They say yeah, And then 441 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: you look at them and say, well, how come even 442 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: though no one instructed you to, you just started jumping 443 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: up and declaring that every non playoff bowl game is meaningless. 444 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: How many times do you hear that quote? Now it's 445 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: a meaningless bowl game. I thought you wanted more good football. 446 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: You notice, friend, when you call that game meaningless. One year, 447 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: it didn't matter, two years maybe still didn't matter. But 448 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: then four or five years into calling those bowl games meaningless, 449 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: guess what happened? Players listened. And you know what the 450 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: players started doing when they didn't make the playoff. They 451 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: started opting out. So, Jordan, here's the problem. Now that 452 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: those folks have poisoned the well of what is and 453 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: isn't meaningful in the postseason. It doesn't really matter what 454 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: we do with the New Year's six. It doesn't really 455 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: matter what we call a game. All that people are 456 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: going to care about now is is it a playoff 457 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: game or is it not. It doesn't matter if there's 458 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: a more prestigious name attached to your bowl game. It 459 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: doesn't matter even if the purse is bigger or the 460 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: TV slot is better. Those players don't care about that. 461 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: An athletic director. May you as a fan, May I 462 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: do because I like all of bowl season. But enough 463 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: people have poisoned that well to where a kid is 464 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: going to look and say, are we in the playoff 465 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: or are we not? Because I don't care if we're 466 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: calling the Gator Bowl an extension of the New Year 467 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: six now, I don't care if the Capitol One Bowl 468 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: is part of the New Year six Now, if it's 469 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: not a playoff game, I don't care, and I may 470 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: opt out again. Jordan, I know that what I'm saying 471 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: right now makes sense to a lot of people. Okay, 472 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: even if you support playoff expansion, you know what I'm 473 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: saying right now is true. We have allowed the value 474 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: of postseason bowl games to change because of the playoff. 475 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: We've allowed that to happen. I don't like it. I 476 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: didn't participate in it, but we allowed it to happen. 477 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: But when you hear me start to get a little 478 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: animated about not wanting to expand this thing further, it's 479 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: because I have a proclivity not to listen to and 480 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: not to yield to the opinion of people who wanted 481 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: the playoff in the first place, and now see the 482 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: results and think that the answer to solving those results 483 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: is more playoff, because I don't think more of anything 484 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: that led to something bad can be a good thing. 485 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: And before I move on here, let me make sure 486 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I crystallize this some of you may be listening to 487 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: me for the first time. I don't think the playoff 488 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: is the cause of the problem. I think the way 489 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: people have interpreted the playoff and the way the playoff 490 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: has been marketed is the problem. Because people allowed the 491 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: playoff to become the center of the college football world 492 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: instead of the regular season. And once you made the 493 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: playoff the center of the college football world, once that's 494 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the golden calf that everyone bows down to and then 495 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: they place superiority on its format over anything else. Well, 496 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: then you understand the difference we're coming at it. If 497 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: that's how you feel from totally different wavelengths, that's why 498 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: we'll never agree on this. I don't make the playoff 499 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: the golden calf. I don't bow down at that. That's 500 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: not the center of the college football world. For me, 501 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: that's the cherry on top. The center of the world 502 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: is the regular season. Then they'll come back at you 503 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: and say, well, that's not the way the NFL does it, 504 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: And I say, yeah, that's why Sunday exists. Man, that's 505 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: exactly why Sunday exists. Well, that's not the way march 506 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: madness does it. Well, that's why you only know the 507 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: sport to be a march in April sport. How about this, 508 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: how about we let what is good about one sport 509 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: exists and not feel like we can blanketly apply it 510 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: across the spectrum of sport. What if I told you 511 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: what works in Russian table tennis may not just seamlessly 512 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: apply in Australian rules football. So, Jordan, I hope I've 513 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: answered your question. My response to it is I don't 514 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: need an extension of the New Year six. I care 515 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: about the Gator Bowl, whether or whether or not it's 516 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: included in some mythical classification. I care about the Capitol 517 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: One Bowl, the Citrus Bowl, the Outback Bowl. I'm mainly 518 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: naming Florida bowl games right now, but I care about 519 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: all of them. PlayStation Bowl, if that still exists, the 520 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: one they play out in the Giant Stadium in San 521 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: Francisco where if you run two out of the end 522 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: zone you crash into the wall and get airlifted to 523 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: a hospital. All it could be the name of bowlgame. Actually, 524 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: so all of the bowl games I like. I've never 525 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: thought we have too many bowls. I've never thought it's 526 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: a stain on the underpens of college football that a 527 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: team that barely makes it to five hundred can go 528 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: to a bowl game. I don't care. I'm all about 529 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: the fact that you got to remote control in your 530 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: hand on December twenty third, just like I do. And 531 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: if you don't feel like watching a bowl game kickoff 532 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: at nine pm from Hawaii, then turn it off, go 533 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: watch a rerun of SVU. I don't care, but I 534 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: want to watch it and the kids that are in Hawaii. 535 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: They're having fun. So you never really hear the words 536 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: meaningless Bowl Game come out of my mouth unless I'm 537 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: referring to someone else's ideology, because that is not the 538 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: ideology we have on this show. All right, settle in. 539 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: Here we go. So a lot of you hit me 540 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: up and you said, hey, did you know today's the 541 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of Twister? Did I know? Had it 542 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: marked on my calendar like some of you had that 543 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: Hailbop comet marked on your calendars back in the day. 544 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean it was like my y two K. Yes, 545 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: I absolutely knew. I've got it tattooed on my lower 546 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: back as a reminder Twister twenty fifth anniversary May tenth 547 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: year of our lower twenty twenty one. Now, if any 548 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: of you, on an unrelated note, have some knowledge in 549 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 1: the world of lower back tattoo removal, hit me up 550 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: on the side. But some of you were asking me 551 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: about stories, and I tell stories occasionally on here. I've 552 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: told you several stories about, you know, the Beauregard Tornado. 553 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: For those unfamiliar, I've been on a Storam chasing team 554 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: for a long time, way longer than I've been talking 555 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: college football, and I still do it sometimes. You know, 556 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: the spring season overlaps to where it's not a busy 557 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: time in the world of college football as busy at 558 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: least so I can get out on the road. But 559 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: one of you asked me the question that my relatives 560 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and loved ones have asked a thousand times, and that is, 561 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: how could you be so ignorant as to want to 562 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: get so close to something that could kill you? And 563 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. I've always understood the 564 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: logic of the question. I've also understood my answer to it, 565 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: But I've also understood that my answer doesn't make sense. 566 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: In the same way that a lot of you love 567 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: birthday parties, I can't stand them. A lot of you 568 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: love going to weddings. I can't stand them. Okay, I'm 569 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: kind of socially introverted, believe it or not. Even though 570 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: I host a show, I'm not a huge fan of 571 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: being at parties, you know, like in the center of 572 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: a room. I'm fine being on stage speaking to a 573 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: room of four million people if that were the case. 574 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: It's a big room, oh heating, an ac bill going 575 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: to be through the roof. But I am not a 576 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: big fan of just social settings. I can fake it. 577 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: I can do fine. It's not like I'm going to 578 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: freak out in the middle of your wedding or anything 579 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: like that. Don't invite me, especially if it's in the fall. 580 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to freak out. But that doesn't 581 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: make sense to a lot of people. A lot of 582 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: people love those things. In fact, most people, most normal people, 583 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: are totally fine in that environment. Well, I'm not a 584 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: huge fan of it. The same way that that may 585 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: not make sense to you, and you would never even 586 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: think about that. It doesn't make sense to me how 587 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: someone would not be drawn to the adrenaline rush you 588 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: get when you experience forces of nature. And let me 589 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: tell you something, there is no experience on planet Earth, 590 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: at least that I've come across, that duplicates the raw 591 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: adrenaline rush that you get from witnessing major tornadoes. There's 592 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: nothing like it. There's also no video technology, even with 593 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: the four K cameras we have today, that can capture 594 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: the violence of a two tornado. If you've ever if 595 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: you've ever seen one in person, you know what I'm 596 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: talking about, Especially at the base of a tornado. The 597 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: violence cannot be captured on camera, and independent of the 598 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: sound and all of that, the violence, You've never been 599 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: able to capture it. I've watched them and had really 600 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: really good camera technology in my hand and gone back 601 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: and look at the footage I have shot of them, 602 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and I think to myself, boy, it seems so much 603 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: more violent in person. Because it is. But I've always 604 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: been drawn to that it's the best theater on planet Earth. 605 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: It could do big, big harm to you. I've witnessed 606 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: it due harm to a lot of people. I've been 607 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: around a lot of death and destruction in the course 608 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: of over a decade doing that, most recently here in 609 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: Nashville and the year before that to the day in Beauregard, Alabama. 610 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: But that's not the story that I wanted to tell you. 611 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: What I wanted to tell you to illustrate the point 612 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm making about how it's not for everyone, and I 613 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: totally get it. Is back in April of two thousand 614 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: and nine, I'm living down in Columbus and it's a 615 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: nighttime system that's coming through. I don't chase at night. 616 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: Nighttime chasing is not my cup of tea, but I'm 617 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: always on guard at night, even if I'm not out chasing. Well, 618 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: I decided to go against the grame because there was 619 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: a tornado warren storm that was coming through Lee County, Alabama, 620 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: which is the last county right before you get to 621 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: the Chattoochie River. And so I'm headed into downtown. This 622 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: is going to cross downtown Columbus essentially, and I'm on 623 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the phone conversing with a buddy and they warn the storm, 624 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: and so I'm about to head into town and he says, 625 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: I want to come with you, And I said, no, 626 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: you don't say He says, yeah, I want to come 627 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: with you. Man. I'm I like the movie Twister, so 628 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: I want to come with you. And I've warned people 629 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: before that it's not for you. It's not for hardly anyone. 630 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: It is extremely dangerous, and it's terrifying for a normal person. 631 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: It's just terrifying because there comes a moment where you 632 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: realize your life's in danger. When it's theoretical, when it's 633 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: in your mind, it sounds cool. When that mechanism kicks in, 634 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: that only kicks in when you realize your life is 635 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: actually in danger. Your mind goes to a totally different 636 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: place and you're not thinking about the phone call that 637 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: you had an hour before where you said, I'll be fine, 638 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: let me go. I'm cool with it. I'll be fine. 639 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: Well you won't be and he wasn't. But that's okay. 640 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: I warned, and the warning was accepted and signed off on. 641 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: So I got to swing by this guy's house anyway 642 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: on the way. So I pick him up and we're 643 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: headed downtown. This is a tornado warn storm and it's 644 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: moving through Lee County, and best I can tell on 645 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: the radioscope, it's going to come right through downtown Columbus. 646 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: So I get on the thirteenth Street Viaduct. For those 647 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: of you familiar with downtown Columbus, that's just a bridge 648 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: that goes right over the rail yard. Now I want 649 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: you to think about me. Those of you who have 650 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: listened a long time, you know that I have an 651 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: affinity for a few things. But one of them storm chasing. 652 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 1: The other has been train hopping at various points in 653 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: my life. And here we have a tornado headed towards us, 654 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: and I'm on top of a rail yard with the 655 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: best vantage point. So you could hit pause right there 656 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: and I would just be comfortable sitting in that very 657 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: moment for the rest of my life. But here we come. 658 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: So I've got the WTVM Channel nine in Columbus, not 659 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: the one I worked at, a competitor, but friendly competitors. 660 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm listening to the live feed on radio they simulcast 661 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: during tornado warnings down there. Derrek Kincaid, who's the chief 662 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: mediaologist there now, good friend of the program, has been 663 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: since long before we came here, back when we were independent, 664 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: and the independent show is just a mere thought in 665 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: my mind. Derek k and K friend of the program 666 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and a friend of the thought. He's on air. And 667 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: here's the problem. The WTVM studios are less than a 668 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: mile from where I'm sitting on this bridge. I am 669 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: parked on a bridge. Then power is cut to the city, 670 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: so Columbus goes dark. All we've got to go on 671 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: is the radio signal that is simulcasting the on air feed, 672 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: and they're in tornado warning coverage, and so Derek k 673 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: and Kay's tracking that thing. I can't get a cell 674 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: phone signal, so I can't get an updated radar scan, 675 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: So all I have to go on is old DK 676 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: and he's tracking it. And every sector scan that comes through, 677 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: it's getting closer and closer, and then you get spotder 678 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: confirmation of tornado on the ground, and it's destructive and 679 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: it's doing a lot of damage. This ended up being, 680 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: I believe in EF two tornado when it was down 681 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: in Lee County and we are right in position, and 682 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: it's about to come right across the river, and at 683 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: last check we are informed via the radio that it's 684 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: about to cross the river, which means it's less than 685 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: one or two minutes away from where we are, because 686 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Columbus is right on the river. And then you hear this, 687 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: keep in mind the station is about a mile from 688 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting, less than a mile. Derek and Kate says, 689 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: we're actually going to have to abandon on air coverage. 690 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: We've got to go to our safe place because this 691 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: is going to come very close to our studio. And 692 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: so they go off the air. They just leave the 693 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: radar scan up for the viewers at home and they 694 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: go hide. And at that point, here's what we had. 695 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: We had total darkness downtown, and we had total radio silence, 696 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: and we had no cell phone signal, and we were 697 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: in a place we did not need to be. Well, 698 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: guess what happened to the buddy in the passenger seat 699 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: that was so gung ho about forty five minutes earlier 700 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: about going and chasing the tornado, freaked out of his mind, 701 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: and he's frantic, and he's asking me, what are we 702 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: going to do? Where are we going to go? And 703 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I looked at him. I'm as calm as can be. 704 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: My heart rate is up, but I'm relatively calm, and 705 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: I said, we are where we're going to go? What 706 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: did you did? Everything I said go in one year 707 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: and out the other. It was my purpose to be 708 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: in harm's way now, I will freely admit back then, 709 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: I had no clue what I was doing, and we 710 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: were not in a place that we were supposed to be. 711 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: I had very very little knowledge of how things work 712 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: relative to how I do now, But I didn't know 713 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: at the time, so I didn't know any better. So 714 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: I was right where I intended to be. Well, he 715 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: wants out, he wants to hit the eject button, and 716 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: it's too late. So here comes to this tornado across 717 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: the river. It's destroying Phoenix City Bowling Alley over there. 718 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember Dixie Lanes, maybe can't remember exactly what 719 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: it was called, but it's coming right across the river. 720 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: And the last thing I tell him, in probably the 721 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: most calm manner I've ever told anyone in the middle 722 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: of crisis, is look in the back seat. I drove 723 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: an O four Toyota Tundra at the time. I said, 724 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: look in the back seat. There's a blanket back there. 725 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: Put it over you, because that's what we coach a 726 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: lot of people to do if you were in the 727 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: middle of either a hailstorm or worst case scenario, a 728 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: tornado direct intercept with a car, is just try and 729 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: cover yourself because glass can really do damage to you, 730 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: even if you don't get picked up off the ground. 731 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: And so he looks at me incredulously and ends up 732 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: doing it. That man puts a blanket over his head. 733 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: So there we are two adult men. I don't know 734 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: if we were men, we were adults, and we're sitting 735 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: on a bridge downtown Columbus, powers out, radios, out, cell 736 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: phones out, tornado coming across the river, and my man 737 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: is sitting over here, looking like a ghost with a 738 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: white blanket over his head. And I'm sitting there just looking. 739 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: And this tornado lifts right as it goes over downtown 740 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: and then retouches down about a quarter mile behind us 741 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: in what is the Lake Bottom area, if you know, 742 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: Columbus's right next to Columbus High School, and does more 743 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: EF zero and E F one damage behind us. But 744 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I kid you not, we have no business being where 745 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: we are. This thing lifts at the perfect moment as 746 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: it turned down. I was mad at the time, but 747 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: it turned out it was the perfect moment for it 748 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: to lift, goes over where we are and misses the 749 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: majority of downtown Columbus, goes over the rail yard, and 750 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: retouches down behind us. So then we get back on 751 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: the road once I realize it's passed and we can 752 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: see a little bit of it cause the power flashes 753 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: and illumination from lightning, we can see it. We get 754 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: back there and we can't get in cause they're huge trees, 755 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean massive. Some of the biggest trees in Columbus 756 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: are in the neighborhood where that tornado touch back down. 757 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: But the reason I tell the story, aside from just 758 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: the ability to tell it, is he didn't realize, my 759 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: friend initials JG. You know who you are. He didn't 760 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: realize how real it was until he was on that 761 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: bridge and then he realized, I'm a normal person. The 762 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: dude in the driver's seat is not normal. So while 763 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: the person in the passenger seat may love the birthday 764 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: party setting, that I hate. He hated the setting right 765 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nature, with something that could 766 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: kill him coming right at him. So I totally understand 767 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: how a majority of people would not want anything to 768 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: do with that. I've just always been drawn to it. 769 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: I've never experienced anything else like that. I've now witnessed 770 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: six of them in person in my lifetime. I didn't 771 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: count that one because I didn't actually see it on 772 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: the ground, so six plus that one. There's nothing like it. 773 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: There's no experience like that. The force, the violence, and 774 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: the magnitude. It makes you feel so small. It lets 775 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: you know how little control you really have over things. 776 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: And it also shows you no matter how far technology comes, 777 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: no matter how long man walks this earth, and no 778 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: matter how many new inventions we create, none of it 779 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: would stand up to some of the things I've seen. 780 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: If put right in the path, we don't have anything. 781 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: Aside from digging a hole in the ground or building 782 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: a triplely fortified concrete bunker. We don't really have anything 783 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: that can stand a chance with all your knowledge and 784 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: all your wisdom, it doesn't stand a chance. Some of 785 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: you may be uneasy feeling that. I just think it's 786 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: awesome because I've never thought I was in control here 787 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: to begin with, and so that just kind of reaffirms 788 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: things for me. But to witness it, it's just spectacular. 789 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: It's so horrifying and terrible, especially after the fact if 790 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: you've been in some of the ones I've been in. 791 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: But it is in the moment the biggest adrenaline rush 792 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: naturally that I think exists. And let me, of course 793 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: conclude this by saying, please don't chase tornadoes. Good Show 794 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: This Morning producer Jordan Hope we got out allowed out 795 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: of this. I know I got a few soundbites out 796 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: of it, mainly just to send to my weather based 797 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: friends and not so much my college football friends. But remember, 798 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: if you want to book a zoom consultation. Josh paid 799 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: seven zero six at gmail dot com. Also follow me 800 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: on Instagram. 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