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Speaker 1: have to find the balance right. Another part of me Bethany,

425
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not I didn't mention this is um. I

426
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: like to go to Target. UM. I like to eat

427
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: a chain paid restaurants. I like seven Loven slurpees. I

428
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: like to bedazzle. I like reality TV as you know fashion.

429
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I like to read. I I like to take a

430
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a little bit of a nerd. I

431
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: don't need to go out and party. I like parties,

432
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: but I'm a no. I like to bedazzle, like I color.

433
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: During pandemic, I've been taking intricate coloring books with a

434
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: very fancy sharpener because of course I can't do it

435
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: anything halfway, and I'm coloring me. I I like that stuff,

436
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not You're not defined by celebrity. What you're

437
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: saying is you have a whole, whole life. You have

438
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: a very full life. Your your life does not does

439
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: not revolve around your career. It happens to be an

440
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,239
Speaker 1: element of who you are as a woman, and there

441
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: are many other elements which I totally get. I like

442
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: the connection, I like the communication. I like the laughter,

443
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: I like the joke, I like the comedy. But I

444
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: don't like to ever go out. I don't like to

445
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: be outside of pajamas. I like to go on vacations

446
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: with my fiance so I can like look like I

447
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: get dressed up and put makeup on and take a

448
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: picture of it and pretend that that's like what we

449
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: do all year. But I am the same as you

450
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: in that regard. I philanthropy, my daughter, pumpkin picking, just

451
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: being at home with the dogs. I'm a very extreme homebody,

452
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: so me too, and write dog is my Everything. Can

453
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: I just interrupt you and tell you something that you

454
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: did that really inspired me. I think it's important that

455
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: we as women tell um, I've watched you on the Housewives.

456
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: I I am a dedicated not so much anymore um

457
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: with New York, but I'm a dedicated housewife watcher. UM.

458
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: But when you took the planes and took the money

459
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: and took the food to exactly who I told Jill,

460
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: our mutual friend. I said, if I could do that,

461
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,239
Speaker 1: I would get on a plane with her right now

462
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: and do that to me. You were done with the show,

463
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: then well thank you, but you'll like that. It's like

464
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: a Honestly, it's it functions like a business. It's just

465
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that a PC goes to the people. But I treated

466
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: exactly the same way. So every time I feel passionate

467
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: about um right now, it's a homeless issue. It was

468
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: the Ppe issue, it's the hurricanes, it's the earthquakes. If

469
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: I feel passionate about and I feel like a Haiti

470
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: We've just done five million dollars to Haiti, a lot

471
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: of money to Louisiana. It's something I've gotten a skill

472
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: set for. It's just like your craft. I've literally have

473
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: a have a skill set for this work to be

474
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: able to mobilize, organize, execute, implement, communicate, be transparent, get

475
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 1: the money and a d percent goes to the people.

476
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: But it's we have an organized warehouse. I mean, it's

477
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: it's a very It's like a business, it's just, you know,

478
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: a charitable business. So not for me. I have a

479
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: charity to a theater in my hometown where I have

480
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: a camp for kids who you know, and it's a business.

481
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: It's not. It's yeah, but it's more important because you

482
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: can't make any mistakes. Everybody's watching you. Even more because

483
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: there's so much scandal in philanthropy and there's so much

484
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: misconception and lack of transparency and wasted money and people

485
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: don't know where their money is going to that it's

486
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: really important that people know exactly where every single solitary

487
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: center is going. And people don't have money now to

488
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: be giving. So so um so you're four eleven, you're

489
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: this cute sweet doll. So I wonder how that is

490
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: with you being you know, tough, being a little Do

491
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: people just think, oh, you're just cute. Let her just

492
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: sit in the corner and look pretty. Yeah, I think,

493
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: especially especially when I first started out and then my

494
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: secret weapon wasn't when I opened my voice to sing

495
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: color tur Esprano. But then what happened. I think it

496
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: started when I was about thirty five. Maybe I became

497
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: aware that that was my sniper from the side excuse

498
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: me for that expression. It was my secret weapon. Um,

499
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: people don't expect me to have a brain. I do

500
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: have a master's degree and a doctorate, and I do.

501
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: I do enjoy using that when when it's um m hm,

502
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: I got that. Maybe that doesn't make me. Maybe I'm

503
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: showing not the nicest side of me. But when someone

504
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: um treats me really stupid, my mom says, you know

505
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: you can destroy somebody with and and do it with

506
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: a with a smile. Oh it's crazy, But I will

507
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: say and very eloquently, what I know. And I'm not

508
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: a genius, but I have been to the barbecue, picnic

509
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: and the rodeo. Are you a business person? Are you

510
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: good at business? Do you do you or do you

511
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: build a team around you to be able to sustain this? What?

512
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: And do you consider yourself a brand? And if so,

513
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: what is the brand and what are you building towards?

514
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: So interesting, Um, that you're asking me about branding. Let

515
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: me start with the people around me. I've hired very,

516
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: very wise people around me, and we do the best

517
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: we can. Sometimes I don't make the right but lots

518
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: of times I do. You know, how I trust the

519
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: most is my my father, and he's the one that

520
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: told me one time in a contract because I always

521
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: want a sixteen footer Steinway when I'm doing concerts, and

522
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: if I don't get that, then I get reimbursed before

523
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: that rental of that piano. And he said, hey, did

524
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: you check this contract? And I said, yeah, yeah, I

525
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: read it. I read it. And he he goes, yeah, you

526
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: didn't really read it, because you're not getting You're not

527
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: you're not getting the pianos. So he So I know,

528
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm fifty three years old, but I still I'm lucky

529
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: enough to have a father who was in business and

530
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I can run everything by him. Now I also have

531
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: a kick ass business manager. Um, but ultimately I'm the

532
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: boss and I have to make and I have to

533
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: make the decisions. And I think I'm doing pretty well.

534
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't like business, like like I don't like you said,

535
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's where you I I like the getting

536
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: out there and performing in different languages and trying to

537
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: slay an audience. And I like to play a part

538
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: that's challenging, and I like to do albums and I

539
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: like to do TV and stuff like that. That's where

540
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: I get off. But business is part of it. And

541
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: I if I'm not, I have gotten better? How's that

542
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I have become wiser and gotten better. I'm sounding like

543
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm bragging. I don't mean to. I'm just saying I've grown.

544
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: I know you you like the show, but you don't

545
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: love the business. But that's very important to know what

546
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: you know and know what you don't know. You may

547
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: have you've learned it like learning case law over the

548
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: years and the mistakes that you've made. But I'm just

549
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: very much I am a business person because I'm the

550
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: idea person, the the marketer, the executor, and I have

551
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: a good business sense, but I'm not good at the weeds,

552
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: the business contract weeds and things like that, and it's

553
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: it can really screw you. It's the one thing I

554
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: tell the listeners all the time. You have no idea.

555
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: I have a couple of things now that I that

556
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: I just didn't think of every single thing in contracts

557
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: and it ends up costing you money. So if you

558
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: learn anything, you must think of anything that could possibly happen.

559
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Because it's just my things are very entangled. It's a

560
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: whole web. This this this career that that you and

561
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I and if you start you find yourself, like am

562
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: my pessimist because I'm going, what else? Just do the

563
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: worst possible case scenarios every time. But no, it's just

564
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: that you're protecting yourself because who wants to pay for

565
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: stuff that you don't want to that that was a

566
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: mistake and I'm doing it. I do it. I do

567
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: it a lot too much? Do you? Um, what have

568
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: been your biggest like biggest successes and your biggest mistakes?

569
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: Like so, I hate to say failures, but I've learned

570
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: more from my failures and my successes. But things where

571
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: it's just like, wow, I really screwed that up, or wow,

572
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: that was nailed that. You know that that kind of thing, um,

573
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, it will never happen the way it happened

574
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: the first time I was I was um on Broadway

575
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: and you're a good man, Charlie Brown. And the review

576
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: was you know, back back when. And I think the

577
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: New York Times still people still read it and reviews

578
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: still account. But in my business, influencers and and different

579
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: things like that have changed. Okay, it changed the business.

580
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: But the New York Times could open it and close

581
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the show. And these reviews came in, all of them,

582
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: not just the times. And it was my life changed overnight.

583
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: And I think it's because I was. I had prepared

584
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: and I had prepared vocally and and and technically for it,

585
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: but I wasn't quite ready for the overnight change. Um.

586
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of great friends in my life

587
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: have helped me be like, like, you're still Christie from Oklahoma,

588
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: just like, don't worry about it. Um. But that was

589
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: it will never happen like that again. Winning the Emmy

590
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: that was the time. It will never happen like that again.

591
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: But for me, the things that I feel that are

592
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: the biggest things are not the things that I mean.

593
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: Wicked is Something and West Wing and Glee, those are

594
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: the people people you know, they go that that that

595
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: But for me, UM, getting to do for me, um

596
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: the opera Candid within New York Philip Pops, and and

597
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: and filming it for great performances things like that, that

598
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: is where I really go. I was in my prime.

599
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: I got to sing the way I was trained to

600
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: operatically and be funny and play a dream role. Um.

601
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: Last time I was on Broadway, I planned a dream

602
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: role on the twentieth Century. It's not a It's not

603
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: a show that a lot of people know, but these

604
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: are the ones that I look at and go I did.

605
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: I accomplished that that I was so hard. It was

606
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: so hard. The hardest role for any woman is that show,

607
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and I accomplished it. So those are the ones that

608
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: And then in my personal life, UM, it's not been

609
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: as easy, okay, And I don't mind talking about it.

610
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: I think I should talk about it because I want

611
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: other women to understand that I didn't feel that for

612
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: the longest time, I deserved to have the great career

613
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: and a great relationship. I thought it had to be

614
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: one or the other. I didn't understand that you could

615
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: actually if you if you're very if you're very selective.

616
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: And I've had some great guys in my life, but

617
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: they weren't the right ones until last week. You're a gauge. Congratulations,

618
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: thank you last week? Last week? Wow? Oh my goodness? Where? When? Why? How?

619
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: What happened? Um? I met him at my niece's wedding.

620
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: He was playing the guitar. He's a Nashville musician. You

621
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: know what is important. I'm an alpha female. He is

622
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: he trust me. He's a man, but he is a balance,

623
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: got it. He keeps me kind of like when I

624
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: get my panties in a lot, I have the same relationship. Okay,

625
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: you're the peacock. You can't have to two people jumping

626
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: off the page. He's he's right. He doesn't want to steal, lie, cheat,

627
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: He wants to love me and just build me up

628
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: and and still do his gigs right. He's secure in

629
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: his own skin. Yeah, and it's been three years and

630
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I never thought it would happen. I've been the runaway

631
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: bright twice and I finally went, Okay, God, I'm listening.

632
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,479
Speaker 1: This is the person and I'm very happy. Ah, that's

633
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: so nice because I was going to ask. And usually

634
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: it's two people who have been married for decades, which

635
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that their relationship is perfect. And I, you know,

636
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: certainly haven't had perfect relationships in my life, but um,

637
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: and I don't think there is one. But what is

638
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: uh your definition of success in relationship? For? Is it

639
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: um that you you you each have your own identity

640
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: and that you're ultimately just a partnership. If it's important

641
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: to them, it's important to you. What are your things

642
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: that get you through? And do you do therapy? What

643
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: do you think about relationships? Like what's your take. Those

644
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: things that you just said are really important partnership. Um,

645
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: when when I know Josh something's important to him, I'm

646
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna do my best when he when he

647
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: knows I'm under the gun. And I sorry, I keep

648
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: using these expressions that are no longer okay. You have

649
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: to forgive me, and your listeners have to give me

650
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: because I'm still learning. No. I know, I said it

651
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: doesn't jive this morning, and I thought to myself, am

652
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: I getting in trouble because of saying the word jive?

653
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. We don't know everything. So people

654
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: will forgive you know, they've we've been saying things forever

655
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: that we don't even know if it's right. The blind

656
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: leading the blind. That's not nice. I mean, nothing's like

657
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: one stone. I mean yeah, I know, I know I

658
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: say that too, oh to my daughter, and I'm like,

659
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill birds. It's you don't. You'd

660
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: have to be studying all day all to learn everything

661
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: that's wrong. I want to be in on that because

662
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: now in baseball, I'm a sports lover. Um. You know,

663
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: I was engaged to a baseball player a long time ago.

664
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: A left handed picture and now you can't say they're

665
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: warming up at the bullpen anyway. Yeah, that's a whole thing.

666
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: Like we all have to get a couple of strikes

667
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: before we get it right, because that's probably gonna Yeah,

668
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: you don't know anyway. All right, So you were talking learning. Um,

669
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: he here's my thing I didn't realize and maybe this

670
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: is where I failed in my relationships in the past. Compromise.

671
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: Compromise is a very important word to have endearance for

672
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: your relationships. Compromise, um, And I think that's what you

673
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: were saying earlier. It's like, if I know that watching

674
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: the Arkansas Old Miss game is important for him, and

675
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: I want to watch, you know, the Housewives, I'm gonna

676
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: stay and I'm gonna watch. You know, he's gonna I'm

677
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: going to do that. If I need quiet time to

678
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: focus and get into my Carnegie Hall concert, He's gonna

679
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: give it to me. Compromise. If if something comes along

680
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: and I have a huge job and somebody were too

681
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: God forbid, passed away in his family, everything's dropped, I

682
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: will go and be with him, and he would do

683
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: it for me. Yeah. And also I feel that, you know,

684
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: people say this and it doesn't sound because we're also older,

685
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, I I'm we're both over fifty. And when

686
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: you're younger, you thought it was something. The prince was

687
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: coming and they were in the big dress and that's

688
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: all that mattered, and the carriage and you know everything

689
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be great, and then you're just gonna be

690
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: glued to the other person, co dependent for the rest

691
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: of your life and live happily ever after. I mean,

692
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: it's just when you have a relationship when you're older,

693
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: it becomes terms and like sort of constructs that are

694
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: not as sexy, meaning you're ultimately negotiating. It's not it

695
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: doesn't sound sexy, but you're saying, like, okay, this you

696
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: really want to do this. My fiancy calls it wants

697
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: and needs, like what what do I This is what

698
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: I want, but this way I need, Like that's not negotiable,

699
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: and you'll say, like, I really want to do this,

700
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: you really want to do this. And then sometimes if

701
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: you're just breaking down and you need to do something

702
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: for yourself, you have to just say like this is

703
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: now affecting my health, so I have to do it

704
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: this way, I mean, and then the other person understands

705
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: and it just becomes because sometimes in the beginning of relationships,

706
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: you sort of are battling to be who you always

707
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: were and and and and hold what's yours and hold

708
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: who you are, and you do want to do that,

709
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: but it's also important to know that that person is

710
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. So you have to find a

711
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: way for those two concepts to come together, you know,

712
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take

713
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: that and gonna rewind it because and I think all

714
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: people in relationships should because that's what we are doing

715
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: and it's working. Yeah, And I don't think I could

716
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: have ever been before a person who really says, like,

717
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: we don't fight, But it not that we don't disagree

718
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: or bigger, it's that fighting is on. You're fighting, You're like,

719
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't say things you don't mean, and fighting doesn't

720
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: get you anywhere. You're You're you're you know your partners

721
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: of the person you're in the foxhole. So it's good

722
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: to be older and learned. And it's you know, funny

723
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: because I have an assistant who's in her twenties and

724
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: all her friends are getting married and she gets worried that,

725
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, they're all getting married. I go, this is

726
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: one group. Like I don't mean to say this to

727
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: be rude, because they may all be married forever. But

728
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 1: I had a group of twenty two when I got married,

729
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: and they all got married and they're all divorced because

730
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: everybody just wanted everyone else had, and everybody was in

731
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: one little bubble like you the whole entire world. Focus

732
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: on your life and your career. It's all going to happen,

733
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: but you think this is all real right now, and

734
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: it's not all necessarily real. Doesn't mean twenty six year

735
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: old marriages don't work. It just means there are many

736
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: different roads to rome. So I just think it's great

737
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: that you're having a relationship at this age. And it's

738
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: not that easy to not be selfish at this age

739
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: because you've been doing it your way, your survivor, and

740
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: you've done it on your own, so that's harder to

741
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, let your guard down and be in a relationship.

742
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: So it's good at your sort. And I've had to

743
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Bethany like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not

744
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm not going to go in the middle

745
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: of nowhere and stay in Nowhere's Ville, and I'm not

746
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: going to do that because of what I've become accustomed to.

747
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: But guess what, I'm doing it and turns out not

748
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: so bad. Come love it. Also, you said something about

749
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: earlier and I wanted to go because it kind of

750
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: goes into this a little bit. Help me make the connection.

751
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: It's called branding. Now. I didn't grow up knowing what branding,

752
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: what doing branding because we didn't have social media and

753
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: we just did talent right and kids. Today, I do

754
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: a lot of master classes. When I come into a

755
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: town to do a concert. I I go to colleges

756
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: and I hear what they say, and they The question

757
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: I get most asked is gifts. How do I become

758
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: a stock? And I say, I don't know. All I

759
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: know is if you if you work your butt off

760
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: and you want to do this, then it will land

761
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: where it may. But if you want to be a star,

762
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, go make a sex video. I don't

763
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to go. That's

764
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: the frosting. That's the frosting, that's not the cake. It's

765
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: not the right thing to be saying. And the one

766
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: thing I'll say that everybody on this show has said

767
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: that is successful except for one person, and as has meant,

768
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: it's never been about the money. They have, the passion

769
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: they have, the drive. Wolfgang Puckey has one house. He said,

770
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: he is one house. He doesn't want more. He never

771
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: sold his brand because he didn't do this for money.

772
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: He likes the passion. Cheryl's ships Cheryl Sandberg came from

773
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: an academic household, like it was never about money. It

774
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: was about you know, passion and just needing to help people,

775
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, have access to education and just it's fascinating

776
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: people who it's fool's fame is fool's gold. Being a

777
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: star is fool's gold. That's the frosting. It's not real, No,

778
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: and you're still the same person, just everybody else thinks

779
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: you've changed. I think Rosie o'donnald said that years ago

780
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: that she felt a certain amount of emotional pain because

781
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: she was the same exact person, but everybody else had changed.

782
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: And you know, we're flawed people. And if you're flawed

783
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: and you're famous, it's harder because everybody wants you to

784
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: be on this pedestal, which is why it's better to

785
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: be honest, because it seems very challenging for these people

786
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: that are constantly having to be perfect on Instagram and filtering,

787
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: and they want everybody to think they're so rich and

788
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: perfect and their relationships are perfect, and that seems insustained.

789
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how you could live like that, having

790
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: to look perfect every time you leave the house. I

791
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: actually put on a little bit of makeup for you today,

792
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: but I most of the time where I had in

793
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: the mask, and then by the way, the mask are

794
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: right for us, we just put the mask on and

795
00:43:50,560 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't wear I don't do it for me. Being

796
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: turning fifty was not I didn't care about the number.

797
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: I didn't care about the concept, but having a daughter

798
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: and thinking about age and having certain medical things that

799
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: having to get have a mammogram scare last week and

800
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: have the second mammogram, having uh, this dentist uh, this

801
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: negligent case where they told me I needed a crown

802
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: ground my tooth to the bottom and then couldn't put

803
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: a crown on for a week, and then I needed

804
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: an emergency root canal. All of these things are not

805
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: about what they're about. But you're just like, wait a second,

806
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't have teeth anymore, Like I meaning that ground

807
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: down tooth. I'm not getting that toothback. Like second mammogram

808
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: scam assists on your over like you start to think

809
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: about things differently because you're over fifty. So it's just

810
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: your like, your car has more than fifty thousand miles

811
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: on it, thinks it's gonna start going wrong and that

812
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: will give you insecurity. It's not about vanity for me.

813
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: It's just that, like, the goddamn car has to be

814
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: serviced more and it still isn't gonna get back to

815
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: being a new car. So that's how I feel about

816
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: over fifty. And everybody who's on Instagram wearing hot bikinis

817
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: and you know, looking great with their big extensions still

818
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: feels that way and getting pregnant of fifty five please yeah,

819
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: but there's still they are still a car that is

820
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: over fifty miles on it. It's just that no matter

821
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: how good they look on Instagram, they still have there's

822
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: still a vintage car. So how do you feel about

823
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: all this? First of all, a little I do need

824
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: to say this because it comes into my insecurity. My

825
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: fiance is almost almost fourteen years younger. I want to

826
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: remain as as good as I want to remain my

827
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: possible best as long as I can. However, I too

828
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: have had I where we Josh is listening laughing. Last

829
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: week I had a amogram scared too, and I've had

830
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: that for three times and we have to watch it carefully.

831
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I do all my liver stuff, and I have like

832
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: this weird thing. I don't mind sharing. Um, it's just

833
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: a it's a humaitoba. It grows, it grows as you

834
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: age and you're it's it's benign, it's nothing, but it's

835
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: in my liver. I don't drink, so it's like, um,

836
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: like it's nothing, it's it's just a thing. I'm a

837
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: former dancer, so when I get out of bed every day,

838
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: I can't my feet. The bottoms of my feet are

839
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: like knives. So it's not about yes, I want to

840
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: look good, but I don't need to look twenty. I

841
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: don't even want to look thirty or forty. When people

842
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: say you're fifty three, I'm gonna go thank you, Yes

843
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: I am. But things are going south if I don't

844
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: work out, and I hate working out because I danced

845
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: my whole life. I hate Jim's the things are happening

846
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: to my body that I'm like that. I could usually

847
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: work out in two weeks and then be like, oh

848
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: I I again, No, no, no, it's not the same,

849
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: and the blow it is different and it's weird, and

850
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: someone you just feel like an alien and you're not

851
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: sure why. And then just the little thing of being

852
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: in the shower and you can't read the goddamn shampoo

853
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: bottle and is not making you feel sexy, like you're like,

854
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a shampooor conditioner. The fucking

855
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: font is ridiculous. And I have a fiance. He was

856
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: nine years younger, which isn't four team, but I just say,

857
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: and he looks like a child. He looks like he's

858
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I'm like, put some fucking baby oil on,

859
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: go outside, burn your face. Start aging. Now. He sleeps

860
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: like a baby. He wants to go to bed at

861
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Like this is not funny. So it's not

862
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: gone like you start. I'm gonna definitely keep aging because

863
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't sleep and I'm a maniac. So something has

864
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: to give here. Otherwise you're gonna look twenty and I'm

865
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna look nineties. So the gap has to be bridged. Okay,

866
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: eat crap, start drinking lots of alcohol. Do something. You

867
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: look like a beautiful baby with perfect skin, and you

868
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: have gorgeous hair, and it's not fucking going that great,

869
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: so I won't let him shape he has. I'm like, Dareshave,

870
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: you look twelve, and you know, for a long time

871
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: I looked young and then all of a sudden it

872
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: wasn't fifty. It was like a year ago, maybe during

873
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: the pandemic, where I went, oh my god, I look

874
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: like the lady getting out of the tub at the

875
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: Shining Right. I understand because you Finn, but I know

876
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: that look. You're like, Hi, I look like there's something

877
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: about Mary. I know. I got the whole thing, believe me.

878
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: We we we agree. So so that's the physical part.

879
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: And then but so you're not that, you're not that vain.

880
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 1: You just want to like try once in a while

881
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: to like hit it out of the park. I want

882
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: people to go, WHOA, right, then once in a while,

883
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: just like right, it still looks pretty good, got it?

884
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: But it doesn't define you. You're not trying to be

885
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: holding on and you're not. It never did because I

886
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: was always little, no one to know. I'm not complaining.

887
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no one took me seriously. I never

888
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: I never lead with my looks. Ever, I I never

889
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: did I lead with what I could offer musically. Well,

890
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: that's a great thing to say to people, because that's

891
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: the thing. We're all going to get older, and if

892
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: you have if you focus on your brain and being well.

893
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: This woman said to me, you're us ago, we were young,

894
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: we're in our twenties New Year's Eve. I want to

895
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: look like the hottest girl there tonight on New Year's Eve?

896
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: I said, And why wouldn't you want to be the

897
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: most interesting woman there? So just be interesting, stand out,

898
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: use your personality. You know, we have humor, we have

899
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: passion for every hot for every hot girl, there's a

900
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: guy stick and tired of fucking ers what they say,

901
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: meaning you cannot just rely on your looks. Do you

902
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: remember the movie I'm sorry, I'm going off things, but

903
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: do you remember the me with Michael Douglas and Archer

904
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: who was beautiful and Glenn Close who was also pretty

905
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: fatal attraction. It's it's like, why would you cheat on

906
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: an Archer? What do you mean Fisher Stevens? And and

907
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: why would you cheat on Michelle Pfeiffer. We're all going

908
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: through the same stuff, so you know, there's a lot

909
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: that goes that goes into it. Yeah, I couldn't believe

910
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: that one. And I saw him on Succession and I

911
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: was like, wait, that's the man I know. But he's

912
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: a wonderful actor. And I'm sorry, Fisher Steed, and I

913
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: hope you come in the podcast and don't take it

914
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: wrong because you're lovely. We love you, Fisher. You made

915
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: a mistake a long time ago. Don't worry about it.

916
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: We love you, Fisher. We're sorry. I don't want to

917
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: be canceled for Fisher Stevens. It just maybe it's not

918
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: even true. But if it's true, one day there is

919
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: a person who's probably cheated on, you know, Michelle Peiffer,

920
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and and that's that's scary. It doesn't feel good exactly.

921
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: It's not all about Look, so this may or may

922
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: not be a relevant question, and we can finish after

923
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: this because you may have answered it. But your rose

924
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: and your thorn of your career. My rose is easy.

925
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: It's my favorite relationship and maybe this is why I'm

926
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: in therapy, is the relationship between the artist and the audience.

927
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: I love it. Because if you listen as an artist,

928
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: you can they will tell you. They will speak to

929
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: you and tell you what they like and what they're

930
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: responding to. And I also like to be in the

931
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: audience to watch. I was at six last night, Go

932
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: see It. I also saw Tina go see it. Um.

933
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: My thorn is I have a disease and um it's

934
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: called the nears, and it is this. They're all cousins. Epilepsy,

935
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: vertigo and migraine and um. Of all things to have

936
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: as a performer, like things that trigger it, our flashing lights.

937
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: So the night I won the Emmy, I you know,

938
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: and migraine, so I went to the hospital. Um that's

939
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's my thought. That's my thorn. But

940
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: it's worth it. A lot of people have crocess to bear.

941
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people have way worse crap than I do. Um.

942
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: I deal with it with a low salt diet. I

943
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: sleep on an incline. I also have t MJ. So

944
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: I have to sleep within mouth guard. No, I have

945
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: a mouth guard too, and you need to get the

946
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: gummier one because I've been using the thin ones and

947
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: the gummier ones are more protective. I felt like I

948
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: was getting. I didn't use it for a while. You

949
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Know, everybody thinks that I've had

950
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: I have not a plastic surgery, and I will one day.

951
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I have not had any. Okay, no, yeah, listen, I'm not.

952
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: I have not had plastic surgery. I apologize everybody that

953
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: says that I disappoint them. I would tell you if

954
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: I did. I have not had plastic surgery anywhere. People

955
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: tell me, okay, but people think I had reconstructive facial

956
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: pet plastic surgery because I had jowls. Because years and

957
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: years the dentist tell me to get a night guard.

958
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: I ignored them. And it's building up a muscle. It's

959
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: like a bicep curl. Botox in your jaw is what

960
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: releases it. It started in Asia. You botox and it

961
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: releases the muscle. And it made my You can't do

962
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: it in one day. It's like a gradual thing, but

963
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: it made my face completely different. Because my whole life

964
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: I've ground and my whole life I had this, these jowls,

965
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: this this jaw, and I mean we have it get there. Yeah,

966
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: So just everybody know that that's a serious thing, and

967
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: grinding is a serious thing, and wow, um, this was

968
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: an incredible, incredible, incredible conversation. I'm so glad Jill introduced us.

969
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: We met once before at a party, but now again,

970
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just so proud of you and I'm so

971
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: happy that you're engaged and happy. And it sounds like

972
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: you're YouTube open. Well you too, but being like a

973
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: work in progress, you're very honest about that, and I

974
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: think that helps women. And we kept coming back to connection.

975
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I keep thinking of like connection spelled with a K

976
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: for you as a book or as something. But you

977
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: keep talking about your favorite thing in your life and

978
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: your career and everything being about the connection. So I

979
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: just think there's something there for whatever. Thank you for that.

980
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to that because it is the

981
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: most important thing to me. And I really I'm ending

982
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: with this because again I'm mad I didn't think of it.

983
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: The glasses, I know, Well, I'll set set. You'll give

984
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: us your prescription number, and we'll send you the readers too,

985
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: because we have tons of amazing readers. If thousands of glasses,

986
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Take care of yourself, that cute man. Tell him,

987
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: I said, to get out in the sun, drink some

988
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: jack Daniels. All Right, what a wonderful conversation with Kristin

989
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: channelwith these women have been really really open and interesting.

990
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just remembering back to Susanne Summers and

991
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Kelly Rippo, which was one of our highest you know,

992
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if rated or listened to, but I

993
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: just feel like there's so much to learn from these women,

994
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: the brook Shields telling their stories. Just I don't know,

995
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: I just love it. I'm so excited this is really

996
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: working out so incredibly well. And that was such a

997
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: beautiful conversation with a woman who is admittedly flawed going

998
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: through it, not trying to be something she's not. Really wonderful.

999
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful, and my publicist, Jilfritze recommended that

1000
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: she come on and represents her and just wonderful. I

1001
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: just I want to keep having conversations with women like

1002
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: this that are just telling the truth, really no bullshit,

1003
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: wonderful one. Of course, want to back U