1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: First of all, costing me about eight hundred and fifty 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. That's gonna cost you. I'm backhander because 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: he was behind me that I was not new all 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: my life and running all my life. Sacrifice hustle back price. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: One slice got the browner dice to swath all my life. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life and 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: running all my life. Sacrifice, hustle back to prices. One 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: a slice got the brother dice to swatty all my life. 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: edition of Club Shashay. I am your whole Shannon Sharp. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm also the propriud of Club sha Shake. And the 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink is 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: a sixteen year NFL bet, a five time pro bowler, 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: a three time All Pro Comeback Player of the Year 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, and an NFL Triple Crown 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: runner led the league and catches touchdowns and yards. Steve 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: Smith c smitty, ain't little Steve Smith spitty spitty? How 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: you doing run? I'm good? Now you're doing better than good? Yeah? 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: What's the day like the Steve Smith? Now wake up 20 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: at depends. I'm I'm a morning person. Okay, so I 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: can you play in the NFL? You gotta be on 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: a morning person. Yea, that's not true. I know some 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: guys that were morning person. How they make it? Make it? 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: I get up, you know six seven o'clock. I watched 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: a little TV. Okay, Uh catch you catch you rerunning 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: and seeing catching up, also deciding and have an internal dialogue. Uh, 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna run outside. We're gonna get on the peloton 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: treadmill to bike. Then there take take my dog for 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: a walk feeder, may work out with my oldest or 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: well one of my one of my kids. Uh see 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: what's going on? Uh? Got a foundation and some businesses 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: in Charlotte go down, got in my office downtown, uptown 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: and Charlotte. So do some of that stuff and and 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: let the day uh take me high. It'school. As an 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: NFL analyst, obviously you have you talk about the games 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: every week. How much film do you actually watch? How 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: much game do you actually watch? I watch a lot 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: of game. I watch a lot of film. I take 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot of notes. I allow I try to allow 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: the game to talk to me too. I create my 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: opinion about someone or something or about that team based 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: on the game each week and collectively, and I may 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: see something earmarket and then come back to it, especially 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: if I have a game. I'm watching a team this 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: week against another prominent team, but also maybe have to 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: watch these two different teams or someone else again, so 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I'll check to see have they improved, have they dropped. 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: So you know, I'll do a little bit of everything, 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: but mainly letting the game talk. Obviously, you watch the game, 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: but you probably have a little a preference towards watching 51 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: the receivers because that's the position that you played. If 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: I would to say, it's maybe give me your top 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: five receivers. And if I said, you got a draft, 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: you can only get one. Who you're taking? Give me 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: a top five? If you get a draft you could 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: take one. Well, this is probably an answer that you're 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: not gonna expect. Okay, who's my quarterback? First of all, 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: I'll give you you could have. Okay, who you want 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: to be your quarterback? Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes. 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Who do you want to be the quarterback? Somebody that 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: can has a fast processing system. Okay, So I'll give 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: you any of the I'll say, you can have Tom Brady, 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: or you want Brady, you want Rodgers, or you want Mahomes. Well, 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: I played in Carolina, so I'll take all of it. No, 65 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: no offense to Jake. I love Jake. Okay, okay, so 66 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: you got one of those top quarterbacks. Now give me 67 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: your top five receivers, top five receivers currently right now. 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I gotta you know I'm biased. I gotta go with 69 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: a guy whose cups always full. Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup. 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Give me DeAndre Hopkins, hop me o b J. Still, yeah, 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm surprised, not because I don't I know 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: what he represents, but the injuries and its injured again 73 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: that you still believe that he's the top guy. It's 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: just my listen, Yo, Liz, I'm just saying. I'm just 75 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: saying that. Jo lis Hey, I just say it. All right, Well, 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: I picked OBJ, but he's gonna, we're gonna you're making 77 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: me change. Nobody names me. I'm light skinned. I'm playing 78 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: a big guy. Okay, Okay, man, that's uh. I'll take 79 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: any of those boards in Tampa Bay. You can't go 80 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: wrong with either one of 'em. Right, you want Evan's 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: Godwin give me god one just because he ever is 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: a tall guy, he gets too much credits. Okay, you 83 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: know I got, I got a rep for the small people. Okay. 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: And then I mean it's that if you leave O 85 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: b J. That's four okay, four DeVante Adams Okay. I 86 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: was I was wondering how how long before you got Davante. 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: But the guy that I'm surprised by that you didn't pick, 88 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: it's kind of your side. It's Tyreek. Hmm. I like Tyreek. 89 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some choices, and you tell me 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: who's the best wide receiver under the age of twenty five. 91 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: You got Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Ceedee Lamb A. J. Brown, 92 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Jerry Judy, give me 93 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: the best and give me your top give me give 94 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: me your top four wide receivers twenty five. Well, I 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: don't know about DK, just because you don't know the 96 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: quarterback situation out there, all right. And then at the 97 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: same time, when they go to uh when even when 98 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: Russell Whistle was there, when they needed a big play, 99 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: who they go to Tyler Locke. Then if they go 100 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: to someone else, to the other if they go to 101 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: the wishing well and it's not you, and guess what, 102 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: You're not the guy. Sorry, I'm just being honest. So 103 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: I think he's I mean, he walks through the door 104 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: physically gifted. But uh, the short guys who they go 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: to when they need a big play? Uh, dk Is 106 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: is robbing Tyler's batman. Okay, Justin Jefferson outstanding. Uh, he 107 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: gets he's he has a cheek hold a little bit 108 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: because he has Adam feeling out there trying to tell 109 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: him everything. You have the athleticism. He's also a great 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: kid as well a sponge. He also was a Kubiak's 111 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: Clint Kobyak slash Gary Koubiak's offense. In that offense, there's 112 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: one receiver that will alwaysy the second receiver. You can 113 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: eat two, but you just gotta you just gotta know 114 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Ye who else? I mean I can 115 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: break off this Jamar Chase and love him. Uh. He 116 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: has a stellar quarterback. His offensive offensive minded coach understands 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: getting him the ball. Uh. They understand that he'll be 118 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: a guy that plays for a long time. Has speed 119 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: but also has the ability to run exceptional robs at 120 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: such a young game. You likee Lamb, I like ceedee Lamb. 121 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really keen on hearing Jerry Jones put that 122 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: pressure and say he's a better version of Amari Cooper 123 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: because Amary Cooper was a Mary Cooper. You knew who 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: Mary Cooper was, where you paid him. You can't get 125 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: mad at Mary Cooper because he's the same person that 126 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: showed up. He's a quiet kid. He's gonna he's gonna 127 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: bring us lunch pail, but he's not really gonna get dirty. 128 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: That's never been him and it's and it's nothing against him, 129 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: right right. That's why at the time Oakland traded him 130 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: because he just was not the lunch rod. Gotta have 131 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: football his life or deathinitely, Yeah, and it is. You 132 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: can't be disappointed. That's your fault for not doing your 133 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: due diligence. A. J. Brown. He's a physical specimen. I 134 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: think his last receiver group really stunted his growth in Tennessee. Uh, 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: the whole room. I think there was some some exam 136 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: amples that should have been better examples than weren't. H 137 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: He he is a dynamic receiver and I think he's 138 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna play well in Philly. Also think he just needs 139 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: to come out and say, look, he left for more money. 140 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: End of the day. Ain't no wrong with that. You 141 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: got Dj Moore? I loved I love what he's playing. 142 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Not really, I'm not really sure how it's gonna work 143 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: out over at all, but I like DJ Moore and 144 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: he's also he's he's a kind of like uh like Coop. 145 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: He's not really a right rock guy. And he'll play, 146 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: he'll show up, he'll do us football his life or 147 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: death for him, but he's just not a right rock guy. 148 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Y'all might get Baker maybe, I know. I hear that. Yeah, 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: I gotta just if that's my squad, whether you like 150 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: it or you gotta ride with him, even if you 151 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: gotta close, y'ut I do. I've been killing Baker man, 152 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I've been killing But here's why. Though quarterbacks get too 153 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: much glory for the win and they get to blame 154 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: everybody else for the lost. Yeah, you know, I listen, 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: I guess I'm just as a wide receiver. I just 156 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: go to bath for the wide receivers. Right, that wide receiver, 157 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: that wide receiver could be dead wrong, he could be 158 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: They can have him on camera sneaking into the house late. 159 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: They can have his key card in his hotel room, 160 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: saying that he was not there, curfew. I'ma say, Nona, 161 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: he was there. It wasn't him. You know, you stick together. 162 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you a question because this is the 163 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: problem that I wrote into. Okay, when I talk about players, 164 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: if you were a good player, not obviously you're coming 165 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: up for the Hall of fame. Not being in the 166 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame and have it won people take what 167 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I say. Yeah, so let's let's let's let's let's stay. 168 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: I know what you're getting at now. Some of the 169 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: young guys have said things about me, saying that I'm 170 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: throwing shap right. Right, let's let's break down shade. You know, 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: shade is generally when the sun hits a well established tree, Okay, 172 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: and that tree must be established by having deep roots. Right, 173 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: So as you you see what I'm getting, a baby 174 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: tree must be shaded by an oak tree, right, something 175 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: that has a substantial, good deep roots. Right. Davante Adams 176 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: can't throw shade on him because he's a deep root 177 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: of tree. Right. Some of these young boys need to 178 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: understand their baby trees, right. They still anchored in by 179 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: rope because with bad so they can start to grow sideways, okay, 180 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: or it can dwarf. They're growing, right, So these young 181 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: the young guys, I understand, but it's not shade. It's 182 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: really understanding. We've seen and grind it out and understand 183 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: how to play ball. And we also know the game 184 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: has changed. Its changing a good way, right, right. Anytime 185 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: guys are getting paid, that's a good thing advancement. But 186 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: we have to do our jobs. And sometimes guys believe 187 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: that we have a personal VanDette or or I had 188 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: a conversation with a guy that I asked him that 189 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: I won't say, is what do you have that I 190 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: don't What if you experience that I have not experienced. 191 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: You got a girl or a wife, I have one, 192 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: beautiful You have children. I have children, actually I have 193 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: I've grown trump some of my children with their I 194 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: just combined still can't rent a car in New York 195 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: and the state of New York. Some of the teams 196 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: at their own I don't want to be on your team. 197 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: Team is very good. I don't want to be in 198 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: your market, right, And so I understand to a certain degree, 199 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: But then there's a part of where some of them 200 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: are a little bit sensitive. Yeah right, now, all you hate? Yeah, bro, 201 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,119 Speaker 1: why am I hating? I'm all I'm saying. I'm critiquing 202 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: what I've seen you do in the game time and 203 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: time again. And also, like Utui Hill what he said lately, 204 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: I find it interesting because one, he's applied a lot 205 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: of pressure on to but also when I look at 206 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: his highlights, Trekio is a fancy, he's cheetah. He runs 207 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: faster than anyone I've known, that wide receiver. However, when 208 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: I look at his highlights, and I'm not speaking out 209 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: of hate, I'm speaking out of my own insecurities and understanding. 210 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: When I haven't gotten the ball for a long time, 211 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: You know how I catch the ball without my hands 212 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: by the kitchen. Yes, yeah, he's not. He's not a 213 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: This is not and this is not a knock. But 214 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: he's not a natural catcher of the ball. No, no, no, 215 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: he's not a peer. Yeah, hand it's catcher now, and 216 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to be when you have that amount 217 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: of speed. Yeah, you may getting a lot of ball 218 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: in your body because you gonna be so wide open. 219 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: But when that speed leaves and you don't have the 220 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: but when it speed leads, he's still gonna be top two, 221 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: top three receivers in leagues, I hope. So, I just 222 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of guys who want their athleticism 223 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: starts to leave them. Their numbers declined dramatically. Well, I 224 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: think what even rude to Wiggan for I don't think he, 225 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: when you play with a greade, went from the top. 226 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: He went from the fifth house to them. But he 227 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: doesn't understand Smitty. You know a lot of these guys 228 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: don't understand that. They don't understand how valuable the quarterback is. 229 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: They think, oh, I can put up these numbers. Well, 230 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: the only guy that I've seen put up numbers regardless 231 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: who the quarterback is, is is the Hope. That's the only guy. 232 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: All these other guys you had Brady, you had Rogers, 233 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: you Matt Home, Now you got Herbert, you got Joe 234 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: Burrow and things of that nature. De hop can can 235 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: honestly say, brug y'all see what we're throwing to me 236 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: in Houston before I got this shown. But it's also 237 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: a good system as well. So you gotta have a 238 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: good system as well. You can't you can't have you 239 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: can't have negative everything and still prevailed. That just doesn't 240 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: happen when you look at the money that these guys 241 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers are getting. I love it. I tell my 242 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: mom why you couldn't wait five years? You couldn't wait 243 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: ten years? I mean, I mean twenty five, yet you 244 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty four? Yeah right, you couldn't wait until you thirty. 245 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: I think it's fantastic. You know. I don't have a 246 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: problem with it, you know. I think it's it advances 247 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: the game. If you're not advancing, then you're digressing. So 248 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's good. Lamar Jackson, he's 249 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: working as he's He and his mom are their own 250 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: representatives in this situation. You see what Deshaun Watson got 251 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty fully guaranteed. Deshaun has never been 252 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: a league's MVP. Lamar has been the league's MVP. He's 253 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: been a league MVP nasally, What do you think is 254 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: going to What is Lamar thinking? What are the Ravens thinking. 255 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens want to resign him. I think 256 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: Lamar wants to be resigned as well. I believe that 257 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect somewhere somehow. My only complaint is if 258 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: you are going to pay that amount of money, I think, 259 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, I think Baltimore needs to have a better 260 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: or offense that that's a little bit more creative, that 261 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: pushes the ball outside of the hashes. I don't know 262 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: why I used to think it was great Roman, I 263 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: thought it was this. I just think I believe to 264 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: be competitive against their Justin Herbert, against their Patrick Mahomes, 265 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Joe Joe Burrow. I guess we gotta throw two it 266 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: in there because they have all of those thoroughbrands out 267 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: there in Miami. And obviously last Thursday last year and 268 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: Thursday night, the Baltimore Ravens did not farewell against the 269 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins last year. So I just believed to to 270 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: pay a guy, you know, a quarter of a billion dollars. 271 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to process, You gotta be able 272 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: to put the ball where it needs to be. You 273 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: gotta This is a throwing league, right. I'm a receiver, 274 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: so I always speak from this perspective. I don't like playing. 275 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't like watching offenses or being on offense that 276 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: looks like the Wayne Tea. I'm just I'm just not four. 277 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: But with Lamar outstandings. He's when you offer a critique, 278 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: and the critique that I've offered the Lamar is that 279 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Adams don't think he throws the ball consistently accurately enough. 280 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not. That's not it's not saying that he can't 281 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: throw the ball. I didn't say he can throw the ball. 282 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: I just their offense is different. But you want to 283 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: put him in the offense like Rogers. I mean, don't 284 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: you have to put him an offin that's fits his 285 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: skill set? I don't know. I think his skill set. 286 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: I think his skill set is he's a quarterback. If 287 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: he's not a quarterback, then put him out a different position. No, 288 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, but all quarterbacks in my career illegal, 289 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you're a man, but all man that are at six 290 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: two six five eight. But that's correct. So what so what? What? 291 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: What do we get yet? I'm getting that? What? Okay, 292 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: what's the idea. You're the offensive coordinator? You got Lamar Jackson, 293 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: tell me what you're gonna do. I'm gonna feed my 294 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: wide receivers. I said, you're gonna feed the wide receiver. Yes, 295 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Bakerman can play yeah, oh yeah, I think you play 296 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: porche I can tell you right now, Porchet is a 297 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: dynamic wide receiver. He's working on this game. I've seen him. 298 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: He's a guy that because of the draft picks, didn't 299 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: play a lot last year, was a healthy scratch. I've 300 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: seen him make some catches and practice and training camp. 301 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: I believe he's they're most well rounded wide receiver on 302 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: the squad. Okay, but he relies here with On Andrews. Andrews, isn't. 303 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can never go wrong with a number 304 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: eighty nine. So it's been having played sixteen years in 305 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the league. Obviously we have a family because you came 306 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: in with a different, very different situation. If I'm not mistaken, 307 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: you even was married or close to being married. So 308 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: that's that's very unique. So you had already established, as 309 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier routes. I got a family, had a kid. Also, right, 310 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: you're old, so you came in already. I got a wife, 311 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: I got a kid, I got responsibilities. So you're looking 312 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: at things a lot differently than a lot of these 313 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: guys that's coming into the league twenty twenty one years 314 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: of age that does not have the foundation that you had. 315 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: What if someone were to ask you that went into 316 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two draft, Steve, how were you able 317 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: to stay so grounded? What made you so certain that 318 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: in college she's the right woman, She's the one that 319 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I want to build this with. But that's interesting because 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: if you ask my wife, she wouldn't say that I 321 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: gave her that that comfort, that comfort of that I 322 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: wanted to build a future with my wife. There are 323 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: some mistakes and some things that that you know, I 324 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: just talk about it with my boys that you gotta 325 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: be prepared and be ready to step up and do 326 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: the things that you need to that that that's a 327 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: that of family needs UH have to be Emotionally there, 328 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: I struggle with some of the things I experienced growing 329 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: up here in La I just I struggle internally with understanding, 330 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: really is what does a man bring to the table. 331 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: It's not sex, it's not money, but what things are emotionally? 332 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: Can you you provide? And at forty three years old 333 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: now I'm finally connecting the dots to see that it's 334 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: not provided. Basically, I provided financially and a roof over 335 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: my family's head, but emotionally they were bankrupt, and so 336 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: understanding figuring that out and understanding what each one of 337 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: my family members, my wife, what she needs from me? 338 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: How how can I show up for her every day? 339 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: How can I show up for my daughter? How can 340 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I lower my daughter and make and set that standard 341 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: for my daughter that she's not looking Not that she is, 342 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: but she's not looking for the boyfriend to be there 343 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: because her dad I was there, just what the dad was. Yeah, 344 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: So just trying to, you know, figure it out myself 345 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: and no longer blind leading the blind, more of leading 346 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: from the front, and that's sometimes also leading from the back. Right, 347 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: also asking my wife, hey, what do you think about 348 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: this instead of saying, oh, this is my house and 349 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: I know made money, I do this. Yeah, when you 350 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: the sacrifices, obviously to be a great player, there are 351 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: a lot of sacrifices that must be made. You got 352 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: film study, you gotta go early, you got to stay late. 353 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna miss some recitals, You're gonna miss some soccer practice. 354 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: How do you how do you job? How do you find? 355 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I really need to be there, but I really need 356 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: to be I need to be a top dog. And 357 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: in order for me to be the top dog, baby, 358 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go to pta by yourself tonight. Well, 359 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: there are sometimes if any other job, you know it, 360 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: if I wasn't a football player and I was a banker, 361 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: you know those there are bank hours, right, I'm trying 362 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: to find that, trying to find that balance. There were 363 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: times where I couldn't make events, but then there were 364 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: times an offseason that we did stuff. But being there 365 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: physically and then mentally being somewhere else that you can 366 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: get you can get caught really going hey, hey, hey hello, 367 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, staring off and like even we talked with 368 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: physically there, but that's necessarily mentally. Yeah, there were times 369 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: where during the season my wife would say, on I 370 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: can tell his game time because by Friday, you know, 371 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: families tiptoeing around, you know, walking on eggshell. So just 372 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: trying to balance it. And I think for a lot 373 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: of my career, if I'm being honest, just extremely transparent 374 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: an honans, I really I struggle with some things. I 375 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: really I had performance anxiety. Right, I did not really 376 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: know myself and I'm just learning myself now for the 377 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: lot probably about the last year, really understanding you know, 378 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: when you're having a bad day, like actually the deeper 379 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: why I am I'm grumpy today. Why am I irritated today? 380 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: It's not that that I am irritated, it's the purpose 381 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: on the why, the deeper meaning and realizing some of 382 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: that is just not being able to figure it out 383 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: and know myself and why and how and processing things. 384 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's been, it's been unique. I think early 385 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: on you were really misunderstood because people have thought you 386 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: had angry issues. You got into a few scuffles early 387 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: in your career. Was it because like you looked at 388 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: it like I know, everybody's like, I'm a grown man, 389 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: but you were really a grown man. And since I 390 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: got a wife, I got a kid, so I see 391 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: things differently. All this joking the Kiki kid you'd been 392 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: doing with the hallboy. See, I know you, see, I 393 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: know you like that. You keep you keep you into it. 394 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: You will keep killing into a two piece. And I'm 395 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: not talking about I'm not talking about KFC. So on 396 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: the situation, and people don't remember there's a situation. I 397 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: think it was a receiver and you had dropped it. 398 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: When you dropped the pass, I'll go through, go go 399 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: through this this first of all, costing me about eight 400 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty six thousand dollars. That's what it costs me. 401 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: It's takes me a while. The first I ever kind 402 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: of mentioned yeah, And so what happened. There was a 403 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: guy we came in our rookie year together. It was 404 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: a fast guy. He played an arena league, and it 405 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: was just competition. And for me, competition. I didn't have 406 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: healthy habits and competition. So when you say if we competition, 407 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: we folds right, You know, we ain't. We both Carolina, 408 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: but we're in the same team because you're trying to 409 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: get my job right. And so we were playing and 410 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Musa and Muhammad's running the film, and so we were 411 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: we were used to grade ourselves and Dan Han's offensive coordinator, 412 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: so we're grading ourselves and the guy says, he's sitting 413 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: right behind me, be sitting in our chairs in our 414 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: receiver room, and we as add a few run in 415 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: earlier that year. So it was basically he didn't like me. 416 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: I didn't like him. It was it was a known fact. 417 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: So normally in a situation like that, you kind of 418 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: boid each other your teammates. But I'm really fooled with you. 419 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: You don't follow me, son, I'm gonna let you if 420 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: I don't like you. Yeah, so but you but you aboid. 421 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: If I don't like you, I'm gonna let you know 422 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: I have a disdain for you. So he he and 423 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: you should avoid each other to keep conflict down. So 424 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: I grew up in conflict, but he ain't growing. He 425 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: was from Florida too, So I didn't like that either. 426 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: He'll being from Florida, y'all two different coasts exactly. I 427 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: grew up in a tupac, you know, Biggie right, he's 428 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: cos West coast, right, Okay, finished finished story, and so 429 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: we so we're in a meeting, real mood, and he 430 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: says it was a pass that I think I called 431 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: it and dropped a fumble. He goes run that back. 432 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: So what does Moose do back? He ran it back, 433 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: and so he says, man, I don'tbody care about what 434 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: she said. And it just it hit me the wrong way. 435 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: I was already embarrassed. I didn't play well. Right, that 436 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: was about me. It wasn't about him, right, if I'm 437 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: being honest, straight up. And so when he did that, 438 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not justified, I'm not trying to make it 439 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: a joke, but I responded in a very immature way 440 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: and also responding in a way I was grew up. 441 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: If you don't like somebody, you just and you don't 442 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: have you don't really have respect for somebody. So a 443 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: backhand him because he was behind me, and so on 444 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: our back end him hit him in a face and 445 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: we turned around and he charged me that I was 446 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: a buy news and so it was so we had 447 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: a fight. I mean it, he swung and we've gotten 448 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: a fight. And then I was in and then obviously 449 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: you got spending with two games. I got spending two 450 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: games and then uh he uh he had to get surgery, 451 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: and uh he pressed charges and I you know, I 452 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: turned myself in and I was charged and I had 453 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: to do a defer prosecution. I think it was two 454 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: or three years of probation. Good see kasling management. I 455 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: was already I was already had started counseling. After that, 456 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: you you knew what you had to you that you 457 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: needed to d Yeah, but I I didn't know I 458 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: had issues because for me, that's how I grew up. 459 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: That was the norm, right, right, I grew up when 460 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: you had a problem, you found you you fixed it 461 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: with your fists. Right. So that's what I was. That 462 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: was the standard. People say, oh, that's not everybody. Everybody 463 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: doesn't live the same way. Everybody's not raised the same way. 464 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: And so that's how I was raised, and it was, 465 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: it was. It was an awful example to be for 466 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: my children and put stress on my wife. And then 467 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years later, about four or five years later, 468 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: me and the dB got into it Ken Lucas and 469 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and I was pressed on that. I was pressed on 470 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: that because I had found out some my wife was 471 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: having some health issues scares my mom was the night 472 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: before she was in a bad place where she was 473 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: diagnosed with type two diabetes financially where she was, and 474 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: I had that call in training camp, and so we 475 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: had altercation, and I just when did you realize I 476 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: I can't fight about everything. I need to have a 477 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: better way of dealing with this. That's the thing, man is. 478 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: It was one of the things that I struggle with 479 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: now is like I was on a flight coming here 480 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: and I had do some real estate stuff and I 481 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: gotta I'm selling some property, and the and the buyer 482 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: it's like trying to make me jump through all these 483 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: hoops as if I'm getting their property and they're buying 484 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,479 Speaker 1: my property, right and and so I I looked at 485 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: the before I sent the email, I was asking myself, 486 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: what is the objection? Do I want to sell this property? Yes? 487 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Do I want to sell it for the profit? Absolutely? Yes? 488 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: Do I want to deal with all of this in 489 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: the They just signed a contract two days ago, right, 490 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: so I want to deal with this throughout this whole process. 491 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: And my answer is no. So I told them all 492 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: my email to my realtor that I lead that if 493 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: they disagree or don't like it, present any documentations that 494 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: hand over that feel that they feel that enhances their 495 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: point of view, right, And I said, if they don't, 496 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: then I will only proceed and take the following steps 497 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: forward from the contract that they signed. If they didn't 498 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: like the contract, then I think they should move forward 499 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: termination whatever they should. And either way, I wish, I 500 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: wish you were best for God bless you. That's it. 501 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: But while I'm sitting there going right, and I'm going 502 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: in myself, but I have that moment I go, but 503 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: this is the new Steed. This is it's not even 504 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: new Sman, it's just really just ten years ago, fifteen 505 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: years ago. I even know. I know what I was 506 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: going to say, because I said that is I wouldn't 507 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: like that out in my mind, I'm going that is 508 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: not their appropriate response. But that's how I felt. I'm like, 509 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: you signed the paperwork right, this is the listing price. 510 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Right now, you're coming back a day and a half 511 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: later or two days later after you agree to the 512 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: listing problems. I had a listed here, you came here, 513 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: I said here, you said okay, Now today it's a problem, right, 514 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: and so I and so for me, I just like 515 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: my podcast, I cut two and I cut out all 516 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: the nonsense and go straight to the source. Free agency. Yeah. 517 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Let let before we get the freeze, let's talk about 518 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: your situation in Carolina. You go to Carolina, you have 519 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: a meeting to success your rookie year. You go to 520 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a returner, your dynamic, you work 521 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: your way. You turn yourself into a damn a great receiver. 522 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: I believe the bit boy you because you played with 523 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: two years? What moves you played three? How many years 524 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: you play with moves? Two? No, three years? Move three 525 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: or four years? Okay? And then what you gott going 526 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: came back? That's big, bro. You turn yourself into a 527 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: dynamic sleep because at the beginning, you know, come in 528 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and get your cup and catches here and there, but 529 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: you will a punt returner, kick returner. You turn yourself 530 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: into a great receiver. And so you're you're going back 531 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, damn. Do you look back and says, 532 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: I wish I could have done this different. I should 533 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: have done that different. I mean, my only regret is 534 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: handling on myself differently, you know, towards my teammates. Your 535 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: teammates feel you opponent too. Just you gotta do it 536 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: with everybody's bidding. I mean, some guys are looking forward 537 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: to and you're looking to give it to it. What 538 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: you mean, they were looking for it, absolutely, they found 539 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: it when they were looking. But they found it in you. 540 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you got you gotta trying people. I'd 541 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: mess your question. Did you ever go into the game 542 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I don't really like him 543 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: if you say anything anything in the slightness. No, So 544 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: that's the that's an interesting part. So I actually had 545 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: a sports psychologist. I had a colleges and then I 546 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: had a sports eye College. Sports eye College was a 547 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: golf guy actually, right, so he really started to teach 548 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: me how to make lifetime goal, short term goals, daily goals. 549 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: Right just to look at like look at look at 550 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: sports without the emotion. Okay, right, it's very emotional game. 551 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: It is. And he was good on that, right, he 552 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: was really good on that. Some other stuff he was 553 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: giving it. I just it wasn't applicable at that time. 554 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I couldn't 555 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: do it right. There were some things that he just 556 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: emotionally I was not able to do right. And and 557 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: so I would go in the game and a lot 558 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: of times when you see me, I would be talking, 559 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be talking to the player I was 560 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: going against. If I caught a ball and I spent it, 561 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: and I would say, they think this, this coordinator thinks 562 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: he can cover me. Today, I was talking to myself 563 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: right now, I said it out loud, and then turn 564 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: they think you're talking to But it was not about them. 565 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: A lot of times that I played, I really played 566 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: because I was trying to get I was trying to 567 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: get out of back home. I was trying not to 568 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: come back to one hundred and twenty six. And if 569 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: long right, I knew we struck we struggled. It was tough. 570 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: My mom she worked their butt off, my dad worked 571 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: their butt off. They taught me about hard work, but 572 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: also knew that growing up in the inter city there 573 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: were things that we experienced. Growing up poor, you don't 574 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: get the same opportunities, right, But being a person that's poor, 575 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to say black, just black, 576 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: but being a personal poor you have to do more 577 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: and yet you don't have the same opportunities. You gotta 578 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: present yourself in a better light just to maybe get 579 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: an interview, to not get the job. So for me, 580 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: I was I put all my eggs in football right right, 581 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: and it was it was tough. I had to go 582 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: to community college, right, Santa Monica Junior College. Otoko, Chad Johnson. 583 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: What was your teammate? Was he like this in college? 584 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: Was he like he is like what we saw at Cincinnati, 585 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,479 Speaker 1: what we see now? Was he like that then? Yeah? 586 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: He was always entertaining. Yes, So did you guys like, nah, 587 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: hey throw me the ball, not throw me the ball? 588 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Did you guys? Nah? It was Demetrius Posy. He was 589 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: he went to Venice High School. He was a better receiver. 590 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: There's a guy, Anthony Chiefis went to Fairfax. He played 591 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: with Isaza King. He was he was a better receiver. 592 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: He towards Kneed. There was a guy, uh you know this, 593 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: this is where it's fun. As you know. There was 594 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: a guy named Jean Sikes, but we all called him Skeeter, right, right. 595 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: There were so many players that I felt at that 596 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: time in a college that I was just the young guy. 597 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: I was just trying to I was just find my way. 598 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: I was just trying to figure things out. So I 599 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: actually got the University of Utah because they were watching Demetrius, 600 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: and Demetrius was going there, and I went to Utah 601 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: really just to follow my big brother, right, And he 602 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: never made it. He ended up falling asleep from driving 603 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: from Diego back up to here for spring break and 604 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: fell asleep with the wall and die Wow. But that 605 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: was the reason that I went to Utah is to 606 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: play with Demetrius. And so that's how it happened. A 607 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of my life, of the prosperity that I've had, 608 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: it's really been by accident. Right, Do you believe tough 609 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: times make tough men. I was reading the story and 610 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: it was going ig and the guy was explaining he says, 611 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: my grandfather walked ten miles. He said. My dad drove 612 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: a Viewer. I drive a Cadillac, my son driving Mercedes. 613 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: He says, in fifty years, we're gonna be right back 614 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: where we came from. He said, tough times make tough men, 615 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: Easy times make weak me. I just think it's a 616 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: it's the perspective I was reading. I read something I 617 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: remind myself. I used to remind myself it is decreased 618 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: more and more just because of the confidence that I 619 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: haven't internally that for a long time. I read this 620 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: and it said that you're special, no one is like you, 621 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: You're unique. Did you always believe that, No, you're loved. 622 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: Do you believe that? Nope, you're competent, You're lovable. And 623 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: it took me a long time, probably the last three years, 624 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: that I've really started to really believe that. But it 625 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: took me this time, the pandemic and all that stuff 626 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: to really sit down and really examine what's the problem. 627 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: And the problem for me is, you know, I was 628 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I was emotionally just numb. Did did were your parents 629 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: I love you, Steve? Did they hug you? Did they 630 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: tell you how much they love you? Did they did. 631 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: You gotta sit down there isn't the best they could. 632 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: There are times when I walk down the hallway after 633 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: my wife is reading my you know, my boys, my 634 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: youngest a book and not going there, and I kiss him. 635 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: The father's walking down the hallway, but the son is 636 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: a little broken, right. You missed that you want you 637 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: You try to give your kids everything that you didn't 638 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: get emotionally, physically, psychologically, obviously monetarily, but now yeah, more 639 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: just understanding the emotional flail love a godpay love, Understanding 640 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: that development at such a young age builds so much 641 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: in them and knowing that and my again, my parents 642 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: didn't model it because they didn't know, right, And so 643 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: it's taking me this most. You're heading food of your betterment. 644 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: I love you, Ruth over your head. Yes, that was 645 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: the love the belly was that was that was and 646 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: not because they didn't he just you know, just trying 647 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: to make it. I think when you played that I 648 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: covered your career. I was in the league. I shortly 649 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: after you got to the league. I retired, but I 650 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 1: remember covering your league. If you're covering you in the league, 651 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: and I said, he plays angry, he like give me 652 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: the ball, I'm gonna run over you. I'm gonna run 653 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: through you. If I gotta run around, y'all will. But 654 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: you know what, I really prefer to run through you 655 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to show you something that come third 656 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: point quarter, you ain't gonna want to see me? Did 657 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: you play angry with that intentional? Growing up on one 658 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six, at nine o'clock in the morning, 659 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: my grandpa used to tell me, if you want to 660 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: play this game, these are men you need to play life. 661 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: Don Baby was very familiar around the lock. Jack Tatum 662 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: was very familiar with people. Eric Turner, Steve Atwater Right, 663 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Greg News. I mean there are so many Greg Townsend, 664 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: how we long Man, how town Man town was so 665 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: dirty man. But my point is I watched old school football. 666 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: He was old and so watching old school football that's 667 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: how I was raised. And I know I'm not killing 668 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: it in the hype department, So I had to because 669 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, on high school to old say they say 670 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: there's always someone better under my breath, I always say, 671 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get a chance. So for me, I 672 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: played the game in the way that I watched the 673 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: error of the game. Then obviously watching wide receivers, but 674 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: I watched the game and played the game. We used 675 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: to play sideline pop in the street. So the best 676 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: way to play the game, I felt at that time 677 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: it's checking man's heart when you could check a man's heart. 678 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: The first play, Ricky protod me the first he and 679 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: I came back together. You're my roommate in the mold game. 680 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: The first play sets up the last play. So my 681 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: first route sets up that next that that player needed 682 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: in a third or fourth quarter, right for that big 683 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: right right, So I take it a step further. Growing 684 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: up in the hood, you know who, you know who 685 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: is susie que up in the group. You know who's soft, 686 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: So you're gonna if you already know that, So I'm 687 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: just gonna establish I know that the gig is up. 688 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,879 Speaker 1: I know who you are, I know how you roll. 689 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 1: I watch your nuts film, I know your little tricks. 690 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: So when we line up and we play, it ain't 691 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: no magic a trick, it ain't no it's no little 692 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: smoking marriage. First play, you wanted to be a run 693 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: so you can go hit somebody in the mouth, or 694 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: you wanted to be a pass. I'm gonna hit you either. 695 00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: Way I'm gonna hit you either. So if if you 696 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: were to describe Steve Smith, why the wide receiver? What what? 697 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: What are your route runner? What are your technician? What 698 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: do you you know? Your speed? Your your jail what? What? What? What? What? What? What? 699 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: In campuses Steve Smith receiver? I mean, I just enjoyed 700 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: playing a game. I enjoyed the physical the physicalness of 701 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: the game. Also enjoyed the checkers and the chest. There 702 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: were some corners that was chess. That was some corners 703 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: most big seeds. Like. I like the physicality of the game. 704 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: I like the bump. You're not the tallest, you're not 705 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: the biggest, and the first thing you say. I like 706 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: the physicality of the game because you already you there's 707 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: no guessing. I'm an overthinker. I don't like surprises, right, 708 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a guesser. So I like all the cars 709 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: on the table. So we're gonna go out here, we're 710 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna bump these gums, we're gonna chit chat, 711 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk, we're gonna play, we're gonna follow We're 712 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna follow up. So you look like, okay, yeah, okay, 713 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: two corners, two safeties clause. It's a lot got are 714 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: you thinking, like, but he don't leave them back, then 715 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: I need to get him. If I get him, everybody 716 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: else gonna follow into place. I mean, if I line up, 717 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: I look at I look at the linebacker first to 718 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of tell me what the coverage is. See what 719 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 1: he's doing. You don't watch the triangle. Then I'm gonna 720 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: look at the safety. And then by the time the 721 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: safety if it's a if it's not a top tier corner, right, 722 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: then that that corner is already gonna be playing in 723 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: the zone. Right, So I'm already anticipating in the zone. 724 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: And basically the triangle is gonna tell me what type 725 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: of zone? Right? Is it three bells? It two cats? 726 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: Jesus two finals? Is it six? Right? So I'm telling 727 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: the corner six quarter quarters. Yeah, I'm order them one 728 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: size covered two. On the other side, I'm telling the 729 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: corner come on out. You know you already know what 730 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: you know you got him stopping tearing to let him. 731 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: So for me, it was it was always just anticipating, 732 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: understanding what's going on, right, and and and because I 733 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: was a hot head, people would assume that I was 734 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: very stupid, and so I kind of played in that narrative, right, 735 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: and that that wasn't that was immature on my on 736 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: my part, right. And so it's really you know, now 737 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: doing television and some of that stuff sometimes yelling and 738 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: and cursing and all that stuff like that. When I 739 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: when I was doing that, I was just being lazy, 740 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: right right. My My my father in law, my wife's 741 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: father always says, man, when you cursed and when you 742 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: when you when you kind of are ignorant, it shows 743 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: your laziness. And I remember him saying that one time, 744 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't. And then one time I found myself 745 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: yelling and cussing about something and I was like, and 746 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: so now we're doing television and some of the the stuff 747 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: that I do now it's like you know, and it's 748 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: been good because some people are taking back they go 749 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: and I've got a number of backhanded compliments. Right, Oh, 750 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: you're a lot smarter than what I thought that. Yeah, thanks, 751 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, But how are you able to stay? 752 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you played on the you was right there 753 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: on the edge. Sometimes you would look over the edge. 754 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes you would hop. How are you able to still 755 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: go get one bitch to get two? Hundred playing like 756 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: that because you play, you will you will pissed off 757 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: and you all pissed off. Yeah, well here's why. So 758 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: I was having lunch probably about it's probably about seven 759 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: months ago. Right, He's probably not gonna like this. But 760 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: Mark Richardson, okay, uh, Jerry big, Jerry Richardson used to 761 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 1: be a president. We're all having dinners a few buddies. 762 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: In my head. It came up from Charleston, so we 763 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: haven't and he has said, Yo, smitty man. I remember 764 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: when we drafted year as a punt returner. I said, see, 765 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: that's your problem. He goes what he says, all see 766 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: there you go with that chip again. I said, no, 767 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: it's not a chip. Think about it. I was told 768 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: I was too small. But if you go on my 769 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: draft cars, the New York Jets drafted another wide receiver 770 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: who was the same height as me, but you went 771 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: to the University of Miami. His name was Saintana Moss, right, 772 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: so high at Saintana Moss the same height as me. 773 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: But he's not too small. And I'm not mad at 774 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: Santana right. The scouts were lazy. They just didn't want 775 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: to say that, dude. We didn't respect the University of Utah, right, 776 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: because in college, if you go back and look, I 777 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 1: think my junior and Seniorye combined, I averaged twenty one 778 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: point two yards a catch. I wasn't I wasn't a rest. 779 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: I wasn't a dB who liked to play receiver. I 780 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: played receiver who happened to be able to catch punts 781 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: because my dad was a semi He was a semi 782 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: pro punter. He used to punt down at Willowbrook Park 783 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and just like any other kid, 784 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: I used to follow my pop around, and so by 785 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: the time I was probably about eight or nine, I 786 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: can catch puns. Because I was just hanging out with 787 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: my pop. I was trying to catch and at that 788 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: time my dad was punning. I thought he was punting 789 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: the ball to the clouds and back, and I was 790 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: just trying to catch her. I was trying to learn 791 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: how to catch him. And then he got mad at me, like, 792 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be back there, catch the ball, boy, 793 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I'm really trying. I'm trying, right, 794 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: And so that's how it actually happened, at me catching 795 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: punts just following my pop right, right, and and so 796 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: I was. I was a receiver. But how they they Okay, 797 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: he said, we drafted you as a punt returner. But 798 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: that's not how you saw yourself. You saw yourself as 799 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: a receiver that could catch punts. I wasn't a starting 800 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: receiver in college. And then you draft me as a 801 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: return and you had six or seven other receivers in 802 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: the room, and you were not. I was not allowed. 803 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't even given the opportunity but to service the 804 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: defense during the season yea as a scout team. So 805 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't that I had this chip you were. I 806 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: was not okay with being limited. I was not comfortable 807 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: with being put in a box until sitting down and 808 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: be quiet the whole check your brain at the door, 809 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: and you know, just getting on. Nah. I was already 810 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: on house money, right. I wasn't supposed to be here. 811 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: I broke my neck in college. See for a verst fracture. 812 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: So I broke my neck right, grew up in inner city. 813 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to be here, right, So my my 814 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: thought was always they fire me at some point. I'm 815 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: gonna lose my job one of these days. So I 816 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: have two choices. When I lose my job, I can 817 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: sit at home and wish I would have said and 818 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: did these things, or I can sit back like I 819 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: do now, go yeah, I probably shouldn't have said that, 820 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: however I did in my way. Right. Should I have 821 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: changed and approach some things differently, Absolutely, But if I 822 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: can go back and change it, I don't know if 823 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting right. Because all of that is what 824 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: made you who you were, And it's also made me 825 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 1: evaluate in process and look at what I am today 826 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: and how can I change? How can I be better? 827 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: How can how can I be emotionally accountable to my wife, 828 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: to my kids, to my friends. Let me ask you this. 829 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: It's because of how you evaluate yourself. You have a 830 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: more open mindness of evaluating yourself. It allows you to 831 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: critique and analyze other players in a more fundamental way. 832 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: I try to be. I'm a perfectionist anyway. So I 833 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 1: mean I I came and hear my own voice every 834 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: show I do and every podcast I do. I never 835 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: really listened to it because I can't hear my own 836 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: voice because I can already know the words. Because when 837 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I had a stuttern problem. Right, 838 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 1: So I already know the words and some of the 839 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: things I didn't say correctly, and so I just and 840 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: that's where the anxiety comes because I know I messed up. 841 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: But see that I read it to that same problem 842 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: when I first got onto the air at CBS, and 843 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: it sent me to all these speech these people that 844 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: speak grammatically correct, yeah, phonetically correct. And I'm sitting in 845 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: there and I'm like, at the time, risk your soul. 846 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: And I had hours and hours of tape of Ed Bradley, 847 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: how correct he spoke and how he you know, dead 848 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: thing James Brown, And then one day I'm sitting I'm like, 849 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 1: if you listen to James Brown, we both j work 850 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: like you can. You can look at JB and you go, man, 851 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: everything about me is wrong j Everything. I mean, he 852 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: wanted like hyphen everything, and then he gonna spell it 853 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: out in his mind. He's like, if it or I like, JB, 854 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: just say the word. But he but as a host, 855 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: say I'm over there when he does at him over there, 856 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 1: going I'm over so you would I both know JB. 857 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 1: But then smythe I look at it, I'm like, well, 858 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: hold on, wait a minute, that's not what they hired. 859 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 1: They didn't hire me to be grammatically and phonetically correct. 860 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 1: They hired me to give an opinion. And a part 861 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 1: of me, a part of what unique about me is 862 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 1: my colloquialism. I'm from Rules, South Georgia, so I talk 863 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,720 Speaker 1: like I'm from Rules. My brother he lost it somewhere 864 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: down down the line. He lost I don't know where 865 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: the hell it win, but but he lost his. It's 866 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,919 Speaker 1: stuck with me. But that's what. And then I saw 867 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, and I saw how well he was receiving. 868 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: I stopped and saying, ain't going to these classes no more. 869 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: I quit. I dropped out of school, and I hadn't 870 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: looked back. And I found an employer that says, be you. Yeah, 871 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't need you to be anybody else. Be you. 872 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: And so you found someone My employee says, be you. 873 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 1: But dollar back, because there's a few times I'll be 874 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: on TV. You can't say that one. No, shouldn't say 875 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: that one. But the thing is that I liked about you. 876 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: But you you honest with it. I mean, it's not 877 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of times guys will say something about 878 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: a person. Said person will come on the set and 879 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're like, nah, I said 880 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: that you didn't play bad? You did? You did that set? 881 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: But if I if I'm incorrect too, Yeah, you're a Problicate. 882 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: I have to face to face. Yeah. I don't have 883 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: rob with that. Right. The reason I don't have a 884 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: problem with this is because if you're man enough to 885 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: say it, yes, and I stand by that, And you know, 886 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: that's just kind of how I am. And I try 887 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: to own. I try to own all my mistakes. Right, 888 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: who reminds Steve Smith receiver player today? John? None of them? 889 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: You know why? Because I look at you, you were 890 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: like a big t owner. I mean you were a 891 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: smaller version. Well here's why I say, no one, Why 892 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: when you're going to Hall of Fame, you go in 893 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: with your own name, your own jersey, your own team. Yes, 894 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: our parents didn't name us the same. You want your 895 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: name to be in there, right, I idolize Jerry Rice, 896 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: your brother Sterling Shark, But I didn't. I don't want 897 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,439 Speaker 1: to be the next Sterling Sharp because that's not my name, 898 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: that's not the person I am. There were things that 899 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: Sterling did that I tried to emulate. I just couldn't do. 900 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: There are things that Jerry did I just couldn't do, 901 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: or I tried, or maybe I you know, I pleasurize 902 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: I stole a little bit. I saw something. But I 903 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: love the players that are today, that they are who 904 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: they are. But because you're on the NFL networking, you 905 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: guys do do the d don't. I don't like when 906 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: they do that because he you know what, he reminds 907 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: me of Steve. Here's why, well I still have. When 908 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 1: I told my achilles, my agent, it was my aging 909 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 1: my whole duration of my career, of my football career 910 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: to really help me get past it because I had 911 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: a double rupture of my achilles and to off the 912 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: bone and in the middle right, he goes, I'm gonna 913 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: send you your draft right up coming out of draft. 914 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: And I at it, and it charged me up because 915 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 1: when I look at my draft stuff that came out, 916 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: I was a fifth to seventh round draft. Bit. So 917 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: now that I'm a finished product, I'm the next. Y'all 918 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 1: know the next. But when I was here, y'all didn't. 919 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: Y'all didn't admire me and say that I was a 920 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: pretty darn good player. So now that I'm done. Now 921 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm the guy. Nah man, don't 922 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: don't do that. Do you you feel you didn't get depreciation? Oh? 923 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean because when on social media, I get told 924 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: all the time I was nothing but a slot receiver. 925 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: I wish I knew that because I didn't playing a 926 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: slot as much as I could have. Right, you, outside 927 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: the numbers. I was outside of the numbers, stationary stand. 928 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't even a Z. I was an AX. I 929 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: wasn't even allowed to go in motion, you know. So 930 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: I I just like allowing the players who they are 931 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: to be themselves. Let those guys be the standard. Don't 932 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: don't say I'm oh, he's the next d Smith. Let 933 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: him be sky more right and be Tarikio. There's things 934 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: about Tarikio I can never do. Let Cheeta be cheating, 935 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: Let him own his name. Don't thrust me onto that 936 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: because heck, I'm just getting familiar on my own. You 937 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: you played the blast year of your career with Carolina. 938 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: It did not end the way you wanted it to end. 939 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: Why did you wanted to leave Carolina? Yeah? Why because 940 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: it was time. I was always I'm a very curious person. 941 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: I was always interested in wondering was what is it 942 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: like to be somewhere else, to be somewhere else? And 943 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: so I you know you got comfortable in Carolina. No, 944 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't coverables getting we was losing. No, I wasn't comfortable. No, 945 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,959 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you had you knew the system, you knew, 946 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,760 Speaker 1: you know everybody, you knew the cold, you knew everybody, 947 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: you knew. Eight. I was ready to go. I had asked. 948 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: I had asked, well, you had just got Cam. I 949 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: know I had asked for a release. You had just 950 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: got Cam. That was the best quarterback that you was going. 951 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: You are correct. He was the best quarterback I ever 952 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: played with. And you wanted to leave that because it 953 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: was our record that was the issue. I was my clock, 954 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: my my my championship clock was was going on right. 955 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,000 Speaker 1: So I wanted to go to it. I just wanted 956 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: to go to a different place. So I had before 957 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 1: I was released that year, I had talked to general 958 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: manager of Jacksonville Jaguar. He was a forty nine ERSH coach. 959 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: He was the forty nine I talked to Trent Balcon 960 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: about a release about me going there, but I didn't 961 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: want to play. I didn't want to play for the 962 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and so I I my agent had 963 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: worked out another deal. I actually had under armour working 964 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: on a new color scheme because I had we had 965 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: backdoor to deal. But the Panthers at that time and 966 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: talked to another team, and so they gave me permission 967 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: to talk with the forty nine ers and I decided 968 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: to stay. So I already had knew I was leaving, 969 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 1: but again people thought I was unable to keep my 970 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: mouth closed. I had conjured up facilitated and started to 971 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: play out a whole different team throughout that season, and 972 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: then I knew I was gonna get released. I kept 973 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: it to myself and just kind of waited. You go 974 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: to the Ravens, Yeah, and unless you played with the Ravens, 975 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 1: you just didn't know. It was fun. It was great, 976 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: It was fun playing with It was fun playing with 977 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: the organization. Obviously I got to got to learn meet 978 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: Eric the Costa, the new general manager, but UH got 979 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 1: to meet the Hall of Famer Asik Newsom. The year 980 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: that we were at the Pro Bowl together my rookie year. 981 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: John Hardball was the specialty. It was a It was 982 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: a lot I enjoyed it playing sports as a kid. 983 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: Obviously going to the NFL, so clearly you played football. 984 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: What are those sports did you play as a kid, 985 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: and what was your favorite sport? I played baseball. I 986 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: was a pitcher, first baseman, shortstop, catcher. I played basketball, 987 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: played Low Tennessee. That was it. That was But you 988 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 1: always knew you wasn't to be an NFL player. Yes, 989 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: going to you so going to from Santa Monica Junior College, 990 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: going to Utah, to the Carolina Panthers, to the Baltimore Ravens. 991 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: You said, there are very few things that you would change, 992 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: would change. You would just like to be more in 993 00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: touch with yourself. Know who Steve Smith was then it's 994 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: compared to now. That's the only thing. Yeah, I mean 995 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: I met some great people. Still uh, still supporting the 996 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: University of Utah. Love my school. I'm always always there, 997 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: go to the game, you know, go to game or two. 998 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm always sneaking in Utah. Man, I'm looking at your draft. 999 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,479 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, Ladanian Thomason, Richard Seymour Hall of Fame said, 1000 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: tell him off. You mentioned Hutchins in the Hall of Fame. 1001 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: Steve Hutchinson, Duce mccuster, Regi Waye, Todd Heat, Drew Brees 1002 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: is gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Man, you help. 1003 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 1: It's some bowler's dog and up and it was just 1004 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 1: little on me. Quincy Quincy Morrigan, Yad, we had Dan Morrigan, 1005 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 1: Chris Jenkins. I'm gonna get you out of here on this. 1006 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You lose the Tom Brady in the Super 1007 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 1: Bowl at the Carolina Panthers. Yeah, and you go to 1008 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:55,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore and you have them down in the playoff game 1009 00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: with a chance to go. Richard Melvin, So I do 1010 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Rashard Melvin? I do the pre Panthers preseason game. Yeah, 1011 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: and he was the Panthers. He's a corner last year. Yeah. Man, 1012 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 1: that was a tough That was a tough game to broadcast. 1013 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 1: When I'm looking at that dude, right, so I try 1014 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 1: to that's when the uh Edelman throws the double pass. 1015 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Rashard mel Dude, Rashande Melvin has been I 1016 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: think he's been in a nine nine or ten years. 1017 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: Eight years, he's been on like eleven teams. It's never 1018 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: a good sigh. Are you prad Tom Brady still played? Nah? 1019 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady can process better than the best of them. 1020 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: It's good. How did I mean? Were you played quarterbacks? 1021 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: And kickers can play faver They don't take that plenty, No, 1022 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: especially with a good offense line. Tell us about the podcast. 1023 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Podcast is cut to it. I cut through the nonsense. 1024 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: But also too, I want to know the people inside, 1025 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,440 Speaker 1: men and women, inside their jerseys. I interview chefs, you 1026 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: name it, just trying to talk about uh stuff, and 1027 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: then who they are outside of the profession. Yeah, outside 1028 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: of profession, who who made them? Like? What what have 1029 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: they been through? We've We've had some we had some 1030 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: good guests and and I'm I'm very inquisitive too, so 1031 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:21,959 Speaker 1: I'll ask like random questions. Appreciate it. Steve Smith, Lady Joan, 1032 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Steve Smith Senior. Yes, I was one, and it ain't 1033 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: a lot of It ain't a lot of people. I 1034 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: let slide. You want to know the story. Why my 1035 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: one of my best friends, he's Allen Beck the third. 1036 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: His daddy filled out some paperwork with his name, so 1037 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: from their own I haven't built up my credit way. 1038 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not letting my boy open up a 1039 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: credit card my name. So his birth certificate says senior 1040 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: and my I d a junior and my DC Senior. No, 1041 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna say he's seen you know now I'm not 1042 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: on my IDC. Appreciate you, Bru, Appreciate you. Thanks you 1043 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: for talking by the club, all the club behind the 1044 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: you just doing to Google. I watch out. I looked 1045 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: at yea all my life and running all my life. 1046 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 1: Sacrifice hustle bad price, want a slice? Got the broller 1047 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,919 Speaker 1: Dice to swap all my life. I've been grinding all 1048 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: my life, all my life and running all my life 1049 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: sacrifice hustle, bad price, want a slice? Got the brother 1050 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: of Dice to swap all my life. I've been running 1051 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: all my life