1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of The Clay Travis 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show is here, everybody, Thanks for rolling 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: with us. We've got now joining the Governor of Mississippi, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Tate Reeves is with us. Mister governor, thanks for calling in. 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, adding always, it's great to 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: be on the show. How are you all today? We're good, sir, 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Let's just talk. Let's talk taxes for a minute, 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: if wee can. I know you're doing some things in 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: your home state of Mississippi to try to ease the 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: tax burden. But why is it that there are there 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: are some red states out there that still have state 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: income taxes? What can you do to get rid of it? 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: And why is our tax code at a federal level 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: thousands of pages long? Well, you know that's a that's 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: a couple of questions in there, and they could take 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: a couple hours. Dan, Well, let's start with the federal 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: tax code. It's a couple thousand pages is long because 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: the federal government continues to spend irresponsibly and somebody's got 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: to pay for it. You know, we believe down here 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: in Mississippi that that government doesn't have anything that it 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: doesn't first take from somebody else. And at the federal level, 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: they literally take trillions of dollars from the taxpayers and 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: constantly spend and spend and spend. And today is just 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: an example that more and more people hopefully are paying 26 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: attention to how much they are paying in taxes. You know, 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: technology is a good thing, but the technology that allowed 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: American workers to take out on a weekly or a 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: bi monthly or a monthly basis of their check what 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: they pay and owe the federal government makes a lot 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: of individual Americans forget how much they're paying to the 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: federal government. And I think that's creates some of the challenges. 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on, Governor. I'm curious how much 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: attention with COVID mobility meanings so many people were able 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: to work or remotely and move to different parts of 36 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: the country. It feels like among the business centric states, 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: which obviously a lot of them have Republican governors, there's 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: been an attempt to make an appeal to that group 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: by declining the amount of state income tax. And obviously 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I live in Tennessee. People know Florida, Tennessee and Texas 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: don't have any state income tax in the South at all. 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: How much of that is competition that you're seeing To 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: try to help Mississippi give a little bit more of 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: a reason for somebody to move to your state potentially, 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: and also obviously help the people who are already there 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: well as usual, you have absolutely hit the proverbial nail 47 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: on the head. I tell my legislators and the people 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: across my state, you don't have to be a genius 49 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: to look at a map and recognize that to Mississippi's 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: west is Texas, to our northes Tennessee, and to our 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: east is Florida. And if we want to be competitive, 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: if we want to be competitive in our attempts to 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: see additional capital investment, if we want to be competitive 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: in our attempts to create jobs, we want to be 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: competitive in our attempts to lure more residents than to 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: our state, we have to recognize that both that all Texas, Tennessee, 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: in Florida all have zero income tax. And that's the 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: reason earlier this year I propose the complete elimination of 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: the income tax in Mississippi so that we would be 60 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: on level playing ground. We didn't get one hundred percent 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: of what we asked for, but we did get a 62 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: major move in the right direction. Wherein today, based upon 63 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: the line of the law that I found in the 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: law last week, we now have the fifth lowest marginal 65 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: tax rate in America amongst those forty one states that 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: have an income taxes. You know, there are nine income states, 67 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: including Texas, Florida, and louis and Tennessee that do not 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: have an income tax. But amongst those forty one states 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: that do have an income tax, Mississippi had number one 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: the highest exemptions. Of the first thirty six thousand, three 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars of income is not taxed or is taxed 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: as zero percent in Mississippi. And then we also have 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the fifth lowest marginal rate, so that even at our 74 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: highest earners pay a flat four percent income tax, which 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: again is lower than some thirty six other states in America. 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: And so well, we do it because I think it's 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: good public policy, but as you, as you so correctly 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: said in the question, we also do it because we 79 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: have to because that's exactly who we compete with. And look, 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the results are obvious when you look at Florida. You 81 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: look at Tennessee and you look at Texas, three of 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the fastest growing GDP states in all of America. And 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: you look at the other states across America, and what 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: you see is that in terms of economic growth, in 85 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: terms of GDP growth, and in terms of population growth, 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: those individual states that do not have an income tax 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: are doing better almost without exception, the those states to 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: do have an income tax. Tsissippi, Governor, the numbers are 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: in for the last month on immigration when it comes 90 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: to our southern border, there were, according to a federal 91 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: court filing two and twenty one, three hundred and three 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: migrants encountered, which means processed and arrested for illegal entry 93 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: at the southern border in March. That's the highest for 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: any months since Biden took office. Eighty thousand of them 95 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: were released into the US. The other one hundred and 96 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: nine thousand, give or take, were expelled via Title forty 97 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: two authority. That Title forty two authority goes away in 98 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: about a month's time, and there's already a number of 99 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: major migrant caravans making their way to the US Mexico border. 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: How do you see this playing out? And what is 101 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: the Biden administration doing in preparation for a surge that 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: we can all see well, I can only assume that 103 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: the Biden administration is doing the same thing in preparation 104 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: today after announcing their decision on Title forty two that 105 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: they've been doing for the last year, and that is 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: basically absolutely nothing. It is extremely concerning to me and 107 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: to other Southern state governors, particularly that we've seen this 108 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: huge uptick in illegal immigration in this country. It frustrates 109 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: me to no end, to be honest with you, that 110 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: within the last two weeks, Vice President Kamala Harris has 111 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: found time in her schedule to visit Greenville, Mississippi, to 112 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: highlight whatever it is that she wanted to highlight. But 113 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: she hasn't had time in the last year during her 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: tenure as being in charge of the border crisis, to 115 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: actually visit the southern border. It is extremely frustrating to me. 116 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: It is bad for the country, but it's just shows 117 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: on issue after issue after the Biden administration and particularly 118 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: those at the top, really have no understanding of what's 119 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: happening on the ground because they refuse to visit places 120 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: like the southern border. We're talking to Mississippi Governor, Tate Reeves, Governor, obviously, 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: today is tax Day and you've done a good job 122 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: of helping to rescind some of the taxes that are 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: obligated to be paid by your citizens. Are you as 124 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: you look towards I know you're a state elected official, 125 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: but as you look toward twenty twenty two and what 126 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: feels like and I bet you feel it in Mississippi, 127 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what's going to be a red wave? Are you concerned 128 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: at all that Democrats may try to pass through a 129 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: tax increase on the national level while they still have 130 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: a majority in the Senate and in the House, regardless 131 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: of what that economic impact might be, because come November 132 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to have the power to do it anymore. Well, 133 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: I certainly hope that there are enough members of the 134 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: US Senate that are reasonable that that would not happen. 135 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: But yes, I'm very concerned about it. If you if 136 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: you look at one of the biggest problems domestically today 137 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: in America is inflation. It is the fact that when 138 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Mississippi residents and others across the country, when they go 139 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: to their gas stations to fill up, their gas costs 140 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: thirty forty fifty percent more to day than it did 141 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: just a year ago. One of the biggest problems in 142 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: America today is the rising cost of bread and milk 143 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: and other goods that individuals are buying at the grocery store. 144 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: And there is no doubt that all of this rising 145 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: inflation is a direct result of the bad economic policies 146 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: put in place by the Biden administration. So I would 147 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: not at all put it past the Biden administration to 148 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: propose yet another bad economic policy light raising taxes on 149 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: the hard working people of this country who are struggling 150 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: right now to pay the bills because of the fact 151 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: that inflation is eating up the dollar every single day. 152 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: Governor Reeves, have you seen the latest out of a 153 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: federal court in Florida where they have struck down a 154 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: judge is struck down the federal mask mandate. Just wondering 155 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: what your thoughts are on this, and how do you 156 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: see this playing out in your state in so many 157 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: other states. Now it would seem like now people shouldn't 158 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: have to mask up on planes, trains or elsewhere. Well, 159 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: I will tell you I literally was just told about 160 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: that as I was walking into this particular interview, and 161 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: good for the federal judge in Florida. My understanding is 162 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the basic arguments in his striking down is this is 163 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: yet another federal overreach by the Biden administration that is 164 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: not justified by the science, and that is something that 165 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: has become more and more evident. In fact, I'm scheduled 166 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: to fly sometime in the next two or three days, 167 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: and I think what you just said is exactly right. 168 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody after this ruling by this federal 169 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: judge in Florida should be required to where a mask 170 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: on an airplane. Governor, I appreciate you joining us here 171 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: on this day. When you look towards twenty twenty two, 172 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: what do you expect to see? What are you seeing 173 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: on the ground in Mississippi? What do you expect to 174 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: see come November. Well, obviously, I'm extremely optimistic for the 175 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two elections, particularly those elections in the US 176 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: House of Representatives as well as the US Senate, as 177 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: well as governors racists from around the country, because the 178 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: American people are a lot smarter than the Democrat politicians 179 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: in Washington think they are, and the American people and 180 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the American voters recognize that the reason prices are going 181 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: up is because of the excess spending by the Biden administration. 182 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: They recognize that when you look at red states and 183 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: you see GDP growth, and you see the lowest unemployed 184 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: rates in our country's history. For instance, in Mississippi today, 185 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: we literally had the lowest unemployment rate we've ever had 186 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: in our state. But when you look at blue states, 187 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: they continue to have unemployment rates that are nowhere near 188 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: their all time lows, and that is in large part 189 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: because of the policies that were enacted during the pandemic. 190 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: You see states who believe in freedom try to ensure 191 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: that we focus not only on protecting lives, but also 192 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: protecting livelihoods, making sure that our people could get up 193 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: and go to work and provide for themselves and provide 194 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: for their families. We never wanted individuals in Mississippi to 195 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: have to make a choice between doing what was best 196 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: and providing for their families and their ability to put 197 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: food on the table, and what the CDC or some 198 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: federal agency told them that they had to or had 199 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: not or could not do. And so I think the 200 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: American people have seen what's happened, They have seen what 201 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: leadership looks like in the different decisions that have been 202 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: made in red state versus blue states, or at least 203 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: in those states that are run by Republican governors versus 204 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: those that are run by Democratic governors. They've seen the 205 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: days spending in Washington that has led to significant additional 206 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: burdens on every single working family across America. And I 207 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: think they also recognize that literally, were it not for 208 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: one or two senators joining the the fifty Republicans in 209 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: the United States Senate, were it not for them, literally 210 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: just a razor thin margin of senators, the body of 211 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: indistruction would have been successful at getting three or three 212 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: and a half trillion dollars more of their Christmas wish 213 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: lists in spending that would have simply called our prices 214 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: for gas and food and milk and bread, etc. To 215 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: go up even further. So I'm optimistic of by the 216 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two elections. But I'll also tell both of y'all, 217 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: and I mean this, uh, it is just April of 218 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, our candidates across the country running for 219 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: a House, for Senate, for governor, and every legislative seat 220 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: in every local race, we still got a lot of 221 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: work to do. And I've always believed that the harder 222 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: you work, the luckier you get. And we've just got 223 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: to keep working hard and keep explaining to the American 224 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: people why our policies are good for the American people 225 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden's policies are bad. 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I want to 261 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit because we got some 262 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: good news, and I feel like a lot of times 263 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: there's bad news. Don't know how long it's gonna last. 264 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: But a hero Federal District Court judge in the state 265 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: of Florida, not surprisingly a Donald Trump appointee, has struck 266 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: down the mask band date on airplanes, saying the CDC 267 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: has exceeded its authority in implementing them, particularly this fifteen 268 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: day extension, which I believe runs now until May third. 269 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Am I right about that? Buck? I think that I 270 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: am the fifteen day extension now, and so the question 271 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: will be one, how quickly will the appeal be filed? 272 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: And two will there be other judges, potentially in the 273 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: state of Florida who will agree that the CDC has 274 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: exceeded its authority. I think this is something that should 275 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: have happened a long time ago. I have not read 276 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: the opinion, but we have been making the argument on 277 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: this show for some time. How in the world can 278 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: the CDC say that COVID is not an emergency at 279 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: the border under Title forty two and wipe that out 280 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: and allow basically the border at the south to be 281 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: wide open while simultaneously saying it's not safe enough to 282 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: fly on airplanes, particularly because buck all ten major airline 283 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: CEOs have written a letter to the Biden administration saying 284 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: it's time to remove the mandate. The CEOs of American 285 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Airlines and Southwest Airlines actually hastified in front of Congress 286 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: that based on air filtration systems, airplanes are one of 287 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: the safest places you can be. So there's no merit 288 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: to this idea in the first place. It's really beyond 289 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: parody that the final group that the left wants masked up, 290 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: or the one that they have they've clung to the 291 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: most they've made mask up are those at lowest risk 292 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: children as we know. And in terms of group settings 293 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: congregate settings, as Fauci calls them to sound more scien 294 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: see he loves that mitigation congregate. All this stuff uses 295 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: these terms, so he sounds smart to dump people. But 296 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: of congregate settings out there, planes are probably the safest 297 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: place you can actually be when it comes to COVID, 298 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: and that's the final place that they're mandating masking as well. 299 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: They don't just have the science wrong, they have it 300 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: wrong in the worst way. In the most way on 301 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: these things. 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Get your phones dal pound two five 321 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: zero and say pure talk pound two five zero euro 322 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: say pure Talk. Do it today. Maybe, just maybe you'll 323 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: be able to fly or take an amtrack in the 324 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: next couple of days without having to mask up your 325 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: face with a cloth mask, as if that really does 326 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: anything to stop the spread. This is a fascinating moment 327 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: because the judge Clay, what's the who's the judge? Is 328 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: the Trump appointee? I believe, thirty four years old female 329 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: judge in Florida. Right, yeah, just I'm gonna give her 330 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: credit because again I haven't read the opinion, but I 331 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: know what the opinion is going to be based on 332 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: because we've been talking about this for a year on 333 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: this show. So US District Judge Katherine Kimball Myzelle, I 334 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: might have been mispronouncing that President Trump appointee. By the way, 335 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: the important thing here so far is Justice Department spokeswoman 336 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: said the department was reviewing the ruling, but decline further comment. 337 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: White House didn't respond to a re quest for comment either. 338 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: That's somewhat interesting, Buck, because my thought would be that 339 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 1: they would immediately say, we believe this is you know, 340 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: this is an incorrect ruling, and we intend to immediately appeal. 341 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm stunned that they haven't already put that statement out. 342 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: It is likely hasn't happened yet. It is likely that 343 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: a federal appeals court will weigh in with some kind 344 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: of stay and say, pending further review, the lower court 345 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: decision here out of Florida cannot be or should not 346 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: be enacted, and therefore we'll go back to masking. Unfortunately, 347 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen. I'm not sure 348 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen, but it certainly looks likely 349 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: at this stage. What I'm fascinated by is who will 350 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: who will make a real argument in favor of this 351 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: in public? I mean, Jen Saki will go out there, 352 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: She'll say anything, as we know, She'll go out there 353 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: for the White House and say, well, we believe that 354 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: we need to take this seriously, and taking it seriously 355 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: means continuing, you know, just blather, just blast your say. 356 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: You know, impersonation is underrated by the way. I listen 357 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: to her a lot. It's pretty good. And those press conferences, 358 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, put me in a red wig. I could 359 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: do a pretty good Saki impersonation. But there's nobody out 360 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: there who actually makes a real argument, like what is 361 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: the purpose of masking up? On planes. I mean, really 362 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: get to its core. It's its essence here. It's to 363 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: stop the spread of coronavirus. That's moronic beyond words, right, 364 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: whether there's there's coronavirus spreading all over the country everywhere, 365 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: and planes are actually never proven as a high level 366 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: or even low level source of transmission because of the 367 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: hepiphiltration systems that they have installed. So there is absolutely 368 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: zero basis for this in terms of stopping the spread. 369 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: And then from an individual risk perspective, any person who 370 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: thinks I need my mask on the plane or I'm 371 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: at too much risk, are they masking up in every 372 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: restaurant they go to, in every workplace they go to, 373 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: and every bar they sit in, and every other facet 374 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: of their lives. If the answer to that is no, 375 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: then we are just viewing with their emotional unwellness and 376 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: pretending that this is actually having to do with science. 377 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: There is no good faith argument for this. It does 378 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: not exist. Which is why I'm fascinated that there are 379 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: all these people, apparently Clay, all these blue checks on 380 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: the Twitter who are saying this is terrible, it's reckless, 381 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: it's so awful. I mean, in New York, you get 382 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: people in line to go to a Broadway play, Clay, 383 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: I would wag your seventy five percent of them, or 384 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: either doing a pre theater or post theater meal in 385 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: New York City at a restaurant next door, A lot 386 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: of the same people are going to sit in the 387 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: theater with no masks. No masks well, and by the way, 388 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: if you are in need of your security blanket, if 389 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: you are, and I think we need to start calling 390 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: these people huge losers, then you can still wear a mask. 391 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: There's not anything in this federal judge ruling that says 392 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: you cannot wear a mask. It's just saying that everyone 393 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: doesn't have to wear a mask. Apologies to the people 394 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: in the City of Brotherly Love. Are Clay and Buck 395 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 1: fans in Philadelphia in that area who are listening to 396 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: us right now. Other than Philadelphia right now, Buck, I 397 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: don't believe there is any place in America that is 398 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: requiring that people wear masks indoors other than airplanes, trains, airports. 399 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: In other words, I and many out there listening to 400 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: us right now. Certainly, if you live in a red state, 401 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: the only place in the state of Tennessee that requires 402 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: a mask is the airport and the airplane. Otherwise, I 403 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: can be anywhere in my entire state and there is 404 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: no mask mandate to go or see or do anything. 405 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: Yet when I pull my car up park walk into 406 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the airport, I have to put a mask on. It's 407 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: the only place in the entire state now where I 408 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: have to do that, and then I have to keep 409 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: it on theoretically when I get on the airplane. So 410 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: it is utterly nonsensical on every level. And I give 411 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: credit to this woman, this judge appointed district court judge 412 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: by Trump, for actually standing up against this. And by 413 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: the way, we should mention it's not going to be 414 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: a surprise to anyone out there, but Florida Governor Ron 415 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: DeSantis has already weighed in great to see a federal 416 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: judge in Florida follow the law and reject the Biden 417 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: transportation mask mandate. Both airline employees and passengers deserve to 418 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: have this misery end. A man. Indeed, I gotta tell 419 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: you one reason that Democrats have been so dug in 420 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: on the plane mandate is because it's a place where 421 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: it's federal law. So this is where all you read 422 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: staters out there, all you people in places like Tennessee 423 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: and tech Is the Libs get their opportunity to poke 424 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: you in the eye or the face over this one. 425 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: So they love that. You know. Otherwise, if you live 426 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: in Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Wyoming, you know, go down the 427 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: list right the Dakotas. You don't have to worry about 428 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: all the COVID madness of the Blue states. Oh yes 429 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: you do when it comes to flying on planes, when 430 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: it comes to traveling. So the Libs love that, right, 431 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: That's just they just enjoy agitating those people who live 432 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: in red states that don't have to continue to pretend 433 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: to go through the make believe that the anxiety blankets 434 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 1: that people have over their faces do anything. But you know, 435 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: you see this Clay, And I think there's also for 436 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people a recognition that planes are the 437 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: place where they have the most authority. You know, you 438 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: think about restaurants. Restaurants really don't want to get into 439 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of other places you can go, a 440 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: lot other places you can eat, you can sell it, right, 441 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: they don't really want to get into it with you 442 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: over and like if it let's be honest, if I'm 443 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: in a restaurant and I want to make someone's life 444 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: miserable because they don't you know, they want to make 445 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: me mask up as I go to sit to the table. Yeah, 446 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: what are they gonna call the cops? Oh, I'll be 447 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: gone before the cops get there. Like just being realistic 448 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: about it. If you argue with any of the masks 449 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: Stazi on your American flight, your Delta flight, United or 450 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: Heaven Forbid, Spirit Airlines, which is obviously my airline of choice, 451 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: if you argue with any of them, not only will 452 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: they ruin your day, kick you off the flight, and 453 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: there's no with fans or butts, they might ban you 454 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: from the flight forever. I mean, you know, imagine Joe's 455 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Pizzeria being like, I'm gonna ban you forever for the mask. 456 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: You like, I'll get my pizza somewhere else. But the 457 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: airlines had a lot of authority over this, more than 458 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: any other place. It really felt like in America they 459 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: could just ram home the COVID anxiety madness, and the 460 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: libs just loved it. They loved it. It was always 461 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: reinforcing their neuroses. Well, not only that, it's way easier 462 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: to ban someone on an airplane when you have to 463 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: provide so much information in order to get on an airplane. 464 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: Right If Joe's Pizza gets mad at you one day 465 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: and they're like, you're never allowed in here again said 466 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: I love you, Pizza, the odds of them really follow 467 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: it through are low. Uh Whereas I mean, like, I'm 468 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I know there are people listening to 469 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: us right now who probably have gotten a band over 470 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: this stupid mask mandate from an airline. It kind of 471 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: sucks when you want to go to a town and 472 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: in your hometown the only place and way that you 473 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: can fly NonStop is through that particular airline, and then 474 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: you can't even book it. Like that's like, I don't 475 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: know what they would have to say to me. People 476 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: make fun of me because I'm on Southwest Airlines all 477 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: the time, but it's the easiest airline to fly in Nashville. 478 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: It's easy to book on and off. You know, they 479 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: should be sponsoring this show, probably for the amount of 480 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: time I fly on their airline. But if they told 481 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: me that I couldn't fly Southwest anymore, I wouldn't be 482 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: able to travel anywhere easily in Nashville. I mean, Rob 483 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: O'Neill's a friend, a great guy Navy seal guy who 484 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: shot bin Laden, best known as remember when they This 485 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: was from Business Insider back in August of twenty twenty, 486 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: Navy seal who killed Osama bin Laden banned from Delta 487 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: for refusing to wear a mask and tweeting about it. 488 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: So that also, that also was a thing that could happen. 489 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: So if you spoke out publicly against the mask policy 490 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: on these planes, they might decide to punish you even 491 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: further for your insolence. Yes, but this has been so stupid, 492 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: and honestly, there should be such a sense of growing 493 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: shame for the Siberian prison guards of the Sky who 494 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: were enforcing this stuff. I'm not talking about the people 495 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: who were cool about them, like, hey, they're gonna yell 496 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: at you unless you know, can you just do me 497 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: a favor, like of course, right, Like I don't want 498 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: anyone getting fired for this either. But that's not what 499 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: I had. I had people that were like, you mask up, 500 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: and you mask until I tell you you can't mask up. 501 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I had some psychopaths in the sky. When they do 502 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: all the retrospectives on the COVID era, and there are 503 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are going to have kids 504 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: and grandkids that are either so young that they won't 505 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: remember it, or they haven't even been born yet. They're 506 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: going to see this and they're gonna say, wait a minute, 507 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: Mom and dad, Wait a minute, grandma and grandpa. You're 508 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: telling me that they told you that you had to 509 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: wear a mask on the airplane, but you took it 510 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: off when you ate or drank, and they claimed that 511 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: that made you safe on the airplane. And you're gonna say, yes, 512 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: that was the rule that everybody had to follow. And 513 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: the kid, the grandkid or the kid, they're going to say, man, 514 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: you guys were all idiots, and you're going to say yes, 515 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: much like buck. Do you ever talk to people about 516 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: when you used to be able to smoke on an airplane? 517 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, and you see like the nineteen sixties or 518 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties television shows or movies or whatever that 519 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: are set there, and you're like, man, that must have 520 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: really he sucked to have everybody just smoking cigarettes on 521 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: an airplane when you have the air filtration system that 522 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: defeated the whole purpose. Yeah, it was kind of crazy, 523 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: kind of dumb. Well, masks are that for our generation. 524 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Let's hope. I don't think they will, but let's hope 525 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: that the Biden administration just chooses not to appeal and 526 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: fight back against this. I think we all know that 527 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: they will. But until they actually do and put out 528 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: that statement, and at least so far they haven't done it, 529 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: maybe there are some people in the Biden administration saying, hey, 530 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: this absolutely makes no sense, and so yeah, the blue 531 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: checks are furious. This blue check says. The judge who 532 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: made this ruling, Katherine Kimball, is thirty five years old. 533 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: She was confirmed at the age of at thirty three. 534 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Judiciary matters. Oh that stinks. Tough break, but guess what 535 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: she got this one right? Crime Moore lips Amen and 536 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: celebrate more if you're on the Party of truth, righteousness, 537 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: and free and also you want to keep fighting some 538 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: of these battles that matter so much. Might help if 539 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: you sign up and support AMAC. AMAC is the Association 540 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: of Mature American Citizens. They've worked every day to push 541 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: back against the Left. 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Stand with 551 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: AMAC and us by joining today at AMA dot us 552 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: slash freedom. That's AMAC dot us slash freedom. Join AMAC Today. 553 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome and final segment play Travis buck Sexton Show about 554 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: to tweet out the judgment from the hero judge down 555 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida that has at least been 556 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: willing to acknowledge that the mandate exceeds the CDC statutory authority, 557 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: violates the procedures required. I'm reading from her order right 558 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: now saying the party's competed. Basically, the court concludes the 559 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: MASK mandate exceeds the CDC's statutory authority and violates the 560 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: procedures required for agency rulemaking under the APA. Accordingly, the 561 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Court vacates the mandate and remands it to the CDC. 562 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: This is the federal court judge thirty five year old 563 00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: now Trump appointee Heroic. I'm I'm not exaggerating this right now, Buck, 564 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean, as I'm reading this opinion, I am just 565 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, finally sanity is starting to prevail now again. 566 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to be appealed. I'm sure it's 567 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: going to be stayed pending that appeal. All these things 568 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: would be my expectation. So far, the Biden Justice Department 569 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: has not issued a statement saying, hey, we believe there's 570 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: no basis whatsoever for this. And we've got some callers 571 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: who are saying they are excited people at airports who 572 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: are finding out that this news now exists and it's spreading, 573 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: at least for the moment, this is the law of 574 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: the land. We've got Kevin in Houston, Texas says his 575 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: wife is at the airport right now. Kevin, what's going on. Yeah, 576 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: she's actually at the air Orlando airport with my daughter, 577 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: and it's spreading. She said that people are literally like 578 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: checking their phones, taking off the mask, walking down down 579 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,239 Speaker 1: the jolways and whatnot. So it's definitely getting out there, 580 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: which I think is a fantastic thing. Oh, I think 581 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna see You're gonna see some airline employees who 582 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna just enforce us anyway. And there'll 583 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: probably be videos of this breaking in the next few hours, 584 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: because this is going to get clay for some people. 585 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: They have a they have a mask based mental illness. 586 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: It really they think that unless you mask up when 587 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: they say so, you're literally killing people. They actually still 588 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: there are people out there who think that they all 589 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: vote Democrat. By the way, I would just note that 590 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: that is an unfortunately direct correlation and that's why we 591 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: need to kick their ass in November. But yeah, I 592 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: bet there are people listening to us right now driving 593 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: to the airport who are thinking to themselves, and by 594 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: the way, as long as this ruling is officially in effect, 595 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: who are going to walk into the airport, take their 596 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: masks off, and when they're told to put a mask 597 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: back on, are going to say, actually, federal court judge 598 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: just struck down the authority that the CDC has to 599 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: implement this policy. Sean in New Orleans, Sean, what's going on? Hello? Hello, Hey, 600 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: I quick store. I just flew home from Vegas on 601 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Southwest two days ago and we'll lay over in Houston. 602 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: And I got to the airport in Vegas. Nobody had 603 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: a mask on. I didn't wear one. TSA made me 604 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: put one on to go through security. I took it 605 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: right back off. No problems, all the way through boarding 606 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: the airplane, the flight, all the way to Houston, no issues. 607 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: They did the standard spiel. Hey, this is a federal mandate, 608 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: put your mask on. Hardly anybody on the plane had 609 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: it on. Switched planes in Houston to my follow through 610 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: late coming back home on Southwest again, and there was 611 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: an absolute mask Nazi flight attendant. That I mean, it's 612 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: a forty minute flight from New Orleans Vegas, and she 613 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: probably talked about the mask the whole time. It was unreal. 614 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. It. Is interesting because I have noticed this, Buck, 615 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: and I think you have probably as well, that the 616 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: individual policing of masks varies wildly now depending on which 617 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: flight attendant crew and an airline crew you get on 618 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: a particular flight. I had a check in person at 619 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: one of the I wasn't even checking in. Pull me 620 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: aside and say your mask looks too thin, you need 621 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: to put a different one on, to which I kind 622 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: of just looked at this woman like, you know, you 623 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: have no authority, right, Like I'll do this, but I'm 624 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: about to go walk away and put my old mass 625 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: back on. But Clay, it's a mental illness. This is 626 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: the problem they have. They actually there's no reason, there's 627 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: no rationality, there's no data. They've been told, they've been brainwashed. 628 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: Tens of millions of our fellow Americans, my friends, have 629 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: been brainwashed by the Democrat psycholib fauciite apparatus. But today 630 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: the skies are parting and the sun is shining at 631 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: least a little bit on this issue, at least as 632 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: we finished the show today. We'll see whether or not 633 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: that still is the case by the time we come 634 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: back on the air tomorrow. But for today, rejoice, smile. 635 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Other than the fact that it's tax Day, at least 636 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: someone in the court system has the stones to stand 637 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: up to the unconstitutional authority that has been levied against 638 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: us in the skies. Talked about it with you tomorrow. 639 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: Come hang with Sleet, Travis and Section on the front 640 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: lines of truth. M