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Speaker 1: talk about this fitness competition of this brand. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're doing. You know the title of your show is

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Speaker 1: happening right now, we have quadrupled our goals in March.

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Speaker 1: So I want people to understand that that sometimes what

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Speaker 1: looks like a problem is actually a blessing. This is

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Speaker 1: a time to think. This is the time to strategize.

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Speaker 1: This is a time to hit the reset button. This

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Speaker 1: is a time to collaborate. But more importantly, this is

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Speaker 1: a time to to go up. To go up, I

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Speaker 1: have one of the most significant UH movements happening right now.

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Speaker 1: We have so many UH working family, single moms with

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Speaker 1: children who are at home. And so what I am

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Speaker 1: encouraging people to do is to term school at home

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Speaker 1: and to a home based business because your children, see there,

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Speaker 1: said so. A lady called me and she asked me.

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Speaker 1: She said, Lynn, I just had to buy paper. You know,

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Speaker 1: these children are eating all day that in the refrigerator

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Speaker 1: all day long. They only get one meal and two

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Speaker 1: snacks to school, but when they get home they want

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Speaker 1: to eat all day she said. She said, I have

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Speaker 1: to buy a computer. She said, can I write it off?

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Speaker 1: I said, no, you can't. I said, however, if you

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Speaker 1: had a home based business, you could hire your child

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Speaker 1: to work in your home based business. Now, when you

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Speaker 1: buy that computer, it's a tax right off. Now when

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Speaker 1: you buy the food in the snacks and whatever it else,

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Speaker 1: whatever else it is. So I have published, uh, my

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Speaker 1: greatest book ever. It's my first job, a kids guide

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Speaker 1: to money and entrepreneurship. And while these children are at

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Speaker 1: get back to the basics, to go back to a

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Speaker 1: big mama and them talking about but also to build

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Speaker 1: wealth and to create a legacy for ourselves as a community. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know it's so important. I'm gonna going to the

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Speaker 1: front party or conversation. We started talking about when times

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Speaker 1: are harder times or crisis, you have to become a

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Speaker 1: thinker and not a person burdened by the crisis. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like a person who who makes money.

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Speaker 1: When people see the stock market go down, there's a

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Speaker 1: group of people out there are happy. They're happy because

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Speaker 1: they're about to invest. At what you might consider a

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Speaker 1: bad time, they see it as an opportune time. Now

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Speaker 1: here's something that Donald Trump did. As soon as they

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Speaker 1: all got low, he bought all to refill the reserve fields. See,

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Speaker 1: that's how people with money think, you know, they understand

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Speaker 1: that they may be losing, but they also see the

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Speaker 1: potential gains. And so what we do people who don't

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Speaker 1: have money, or people who are always feeling bad when

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Speaker 1: times go bad, we should our mope. We don't. We're

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Speaker 1: not planners, were not dreamers do We not go oriented people.

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Speaker 1: And that really disturbs me. And that's why I always

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Speaker 1: enjoy bringing you on my show, because you are planning.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Look, Roshan, you know you can. You

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Speaker 1: can create a home business, but you gotta be consistent

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Speaker 1: with that plan. You can't just create it for one month.

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Speaker 1: Just stop now, hold up, now, that's right, you have

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Speaker 1: to keep going. I feel like Jeremiah in the Bible.

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Speaker 1: You know he kept telling the children of Israel, listen,

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Speaker 1: do this, through this, through that. Then when everything was

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Speaker 1: obsolete and destitute, the land was bleak. You know that

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Speaker 1: that spenture I have planned to prost you or not

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Speaker 1: to harm you, plans to give you hope in the future.

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Speaker 1: That was at a time when everything seemed like it

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Speaker 1: was gone, all the riches were gone. People had to stop,

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Speaker 1: they had to rebuild. We are in that time now

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Speaker 1: and and Rishan. You know when I released the book,

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Speaker 1: you were one of my first stops. I have been

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Speaker 1: telling to fupled to get a home based business. I

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Speaker 1: have been saying it for twelve years. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I just want to run outside and screen, but I

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Speaker 1: can't go nowhere. So yeah, hey they over there, don't

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Speaker 1: don't look at don't even I told people, don't even

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Speaker 1: blow me a kids. Okay, right over there, bove me

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Speaker 1: a kids. But this is the time. See here's what

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Speaker 1: people also need to understand. What sean The world will

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Speaker 1: never go back to the way it was because now

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Speaker 1: corporation and the in in the world, the universe understands

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Speaker 1: that we can continue to move without people moving. Do

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Speaker 1: you hear me? Without people moving? So do you think

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Speaker 1: people are going to Everybody's just gonna go back and

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Speaker 1: get their jobs. You're gonna go back to the hustle

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Speaker 1: and buffalo. I have to be honest. I was feeling

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Speaker 1: a little strange because it seems are moving, emails flying,

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Speaker 1: nobody sits down. Now everybody has to sit down. So

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Speaker 1: now is the time to establish a home based business,

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Speaker 1: not only so you can get more money, but when

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Speaker 1: you have a home based business, it's the only way

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Speaker 1: to get your money back. You have four hundred seventy

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Speaker 1: five packs productions. So this is to me, this is

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Speaker 1: a blessing. And I say, God does not promote powders.

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Speaker 1: God don't promote powders. So the situation that you're in now,

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Speaker 1: you might as well smile because you can't change it, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: change absolutely you know the things. You know. The thing

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Speaker 1: about it that when you're talking land that I always

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Speaker 1: hone in on this, the consistency of your tone. But

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Speaker 1: more importantly, let's let's get personal by Rashan. When the

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Speaker 1: crisis hid, you know I didn't. I was confused. You know,

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Speaker 1: how do I how do I deal with my employees?

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Speaker 1: Will they be effective working from home? You know, because

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Speaker 1: I can't monitor anymore. You know they come in at eight.

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Speaker 1: I know they don't walk through the door eight. I

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Speaker 1: know they are the eight when they come when they

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Speaker 1: when they at five, I know when they leave it five.

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Speaker 1: I got all that, But what are they doing between

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Speaker 1: eight and five? Because I can't see him anymore. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have zoom, I do zoom meetings in the morning.

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Speaker 1: I have deadlines that got if you met through email

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Speaker 1: communication and have a zoom meeting in the afternoon. That way,

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Speaker 1: I have a working relationship with my staff. So, like

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Speaker 1: you said, things are gonna change for the good and

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Speaker 1: the bad. The bad means that you have to make

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Speaker 1: the adjustment, meaning you to employ you, or you to

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Speaker 1: employ you or the supervisor. But the good is that

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Speaker 1: you can continue to get effective work responsibilities out of

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Speaker 1: your employee employer employees that you have on a daily

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Speaker 1: basis if you have a plan. And this is all

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Speaker 1: about having the plan correctly. And yeah, this is all

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Speaker 1: about having a planet. And what you just said is

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Speaker 1: so key because you, like many entrepreneurs and executives and

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Speaker 1: CEOs and people who have staff. I said to everyone,

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Speaker 1: to all my colleagues that said, listen, this is the

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Speaker 1: time to go in deep. This is the time to

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Speaker 1: capture their attention. This is the time to really coach,

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Speaker 1: to coach our team. And we have to inspect what

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Speaker 1: we expect. You got to inspect what you expect. And

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Speaker 1: there's no better way to do it with people. Because see,

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Speaker 1: now we've have more productivity. There's no commuting. They don't

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Speaker 1: have to get in the car, they don't have to rush,

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Speaker 1: take a run and take a shall will jump in

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Speaker 1: the car they get to you, they are settled there

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Speaker 1: at home. So I love what you're doing, and I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that you said you're building more better

768
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Speaker 1: relationships with your staff because this when when we come

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Speaker 1: out of this, there's gonna be a significant change. But

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Speaker 1: the number one thing I'm saying is start a home

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Speaker 1: based business. I have a home based business webinar. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing it almost every day of the week because it's

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Speaker 1: five easy steps. You don't have to file anything, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to go anywhere, you don't have to go

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Speaker 1: tell anybody. There's five basic steps to start a home

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Speaker 1: based business, and anyone can have one within the first

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Speaker 1: ten minutes of the webinar. And then the second thing

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Speaker 1: is to live so significantly below your means. People are

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Speaker 1: concerned about their monthly payments. And what I'm telling everybody

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Speaker 1: is the first list all of your creditors, every last

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Speaker 1: one of them, Netflix and everybody, every single person that

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Speaker 1: you pay miss. The second column, list the amount that

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Speaker 1: you owe. Now, third column list the total balance. Let's do,

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Speaker 1: and then the fourth column the dody. Once you have

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Speaker 1: all of that, go down the list, call each one

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Speaker 1: of your creditor, asks what do they have in place

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Speaker 1: in response to the lack of work and income due

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Speaker 1: to the pandemic. If they have a three month extension

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Speaker 1: of four month extension, take it. I'm telling everyone to

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Speaker 1: take the extension, even if you can pay. And let

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00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: me tell you why, because you need to stack your dollars.

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Speaker 1: You need to put as much money to the side

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Speaker 1: as you can because we don't know the long term

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Speaker 1: effects of it. We don't know what's gonna happen now.

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Speaker 1: And those stimulus checks, those similar checks are not enough

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Speaker 1: to live on. Those stimulus checks are enough to buy

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Speaker 1: lightsol hand white, uh, math and food. Get mad. I told,

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Speaker 1: I said, lever, say you if you want to simulate me,

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Speaker 1: I need a few more zeros on my check. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what will simulate me. I need three more zeros

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Speaker 1: and then I will be simulated. So we have to

802
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Speaker 1: start thinking and we have to start planning now. Don't

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Speaker 1: take advantage, don't get the three months extension, and then

804
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Speaker 1: go shopping online because nobody can really deliver anything anyway.

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Speaker 1: Be smart, and then Rashan, you're gonna love this. American

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Speaker 1: Express bank, American Express Online. You can go online, google it.

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Speaker 1: They have a savings account with the one point seven

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Speaker 1: five percent interest rate. Oh wow, I am accepting all

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Speaker 1: this god giving information that people have and I'm being

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Speaker 1: blessed to receive it, and I want you to be

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Speaker 1: received by it as well and be a person who

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Speaker 1: takes it all in just like me. You know, I

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Speaker 1: had to get on a start right there because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, they always see you, they

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Speaker 1: see an evil to a tone. They see a different

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Speaker 1: message than what I'm trying to deliver or what other

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Speaker 1: people try to deliver. We try to reach out and help,

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Speaker 1: and it really can fusing me because a lot of

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Speaker 1: people spend more time blocking than receiving. Is that correct.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this is a time to be open.

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Speaker 1: This is the time to be open to change. No blockers,

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Speaker 1: no naysayers, no haters, no crap lrel barrel pullers. You

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Speaker 1: know that they're just out there. If anybody is holding

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Speaker 1: you back, pushing you down, you need to kind of

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Speaker 1: just push that to the side. Don't even give it

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Speaker 1: any energy. Don't get angry, don't get upset. You know,

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Speaker 1: I talked about the five f that will keep everybody

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Speaker 1: broke Rashaan. The first F is feeling when feelings get involved,

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Speaker 1: bad decisions followed. Uh, then you got Then you've got families,

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Speaker 1: and you love your family, but sometimes you do things

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Speaker 1: out of guilt that you're not supposed to do with

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Speaker 1: your family. And then your friends, you're still hanging around

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Speaker 1: the same friends that you played with when you were

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Speaker 1: five years old and and and they're not moving in

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Speaker 1: the same direction. Doesn't mean you're in the friendship. But

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Speaker 1: if you have nine broke frands, you're gonna be number ten,

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Speaker 1: so you need a new network. And then the next

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Speaker 1: f is food. Uh, we're spending a third of our check.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are sending me their budgets and

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Speaker 1: they're sending a third of their take on pain on

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Speaker 1: food and the fact, so it's a problem there too.

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Speaker 1: And then the final ethos fun. I say, when you

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Speaker 1: are broke, if you're trying to rebuild, you shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: having any fun. Now you should have keith, but fun

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Speaker 1: if you're kicking it every weekend. And that's that. The

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Speaker 1: other so when you talk about being blocked, many times

847
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: people say the enemy, but it really is the inner meet.

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Speaker 1: We need to unblock ourselves and open ourselves up to change.

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Speaker 1: And the things that are going to really get us

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Speaker 1: to the next level. Well, you know, it's really amazing

851
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: when I'm looking through your notes, said, uh, they say

852
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: they're always send me talking points and it's just six

853
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: session called cut back because you've always talked about cut

854
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: back on all your extras, like you mentioned earlier. You know,

855
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: know your Netflix bills and know what you how you're

856
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: spending the money in restaurants. I think the biggest thing

857
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: is and it's hurting restaurants right now. But we're gonna

858
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: get back to eating a lot at home now, that's

859
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: right because of the fact that we have become such

860
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: a I want to say, like a portable or mobile society.

861
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't have time to cook for ourselves.

862
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 1: We don't have time to take care of ourselves. We

863
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: don't have time to read the I don't know, I'm saying,

864
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: going out and you're eating all the wrong food. But

865
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: you're all eating the food you shouldn't be eating. Because

866
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: I made me a smoothie yesterday. We all have the

867
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: watermelon in there here, bananas in there, and the coconuts,

868
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: ill mean, pineapples in there. You know I would have

869
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: made a smoothie and the other circumstances that that smoothie

870
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: was good. I just I froze all my fruit, so

871
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: I didn't put so the ice was there. Put some

872
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: put some O juice in there, and put some apple

873
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: juice in there. It just changed the way I think

874
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: and where I am dealing with my life. I'm making

875
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: making their own breakfast. I'm not recommending this for everybody,

876
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: but I'm just telling everybody that when you make your

877
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: own food, you do spend less money. That's right, you

878
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: spend less. We let me tell you. Yesterday was Sunday.

879
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: I was so hungry. I wanted something that I knew

880
00:47:54,560 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: was satisfied me. I ate a peanut butter and jelly. Girl,

881
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: they're a girl that go. You stopped laying. You're about

882
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: to get me into a Bloni sandwich. I am blogne

883
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: the sandwich now fried baloney in road? At you in

884
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: my road because I told the people, I said, I said,

885
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: the pandemic diet is this Bolognian seas, not peanut butter

886
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: and jelly, a grey old cheese. If you want to

887
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: elevate it, experience and with all no films, A bowler

888
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: cria girl, oa something I have me eating cheerios right

889
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: raising brain because you know I'm a little older. I

890
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: gotta have a little movement. You gotta have a little movement,

891
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: gotta have my brain, gotta have my brand. Not so

892
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I girl, you this peanut butter. I'm so mad at

893
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: you because you have beat me to the peanut butter

894
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: and jelly sandwich. I have not had a peanut butter

895
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: and jelly sandwich. I had had me a fried h

896
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Bologni sandwich, had that the Christie iceberg lettish, a big

897
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: old yellow, bigger red tomatoes. Put me that man to

898
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: me two slices of white bread. Let me tell you,

899
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: yeah and let me and I'm gonna hit you up

900
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: back to head with this one. My peanut butter and jelly.

901
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: I had wonder bread. I had one dread. Yes, yes,

902
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: yes I did. But that's family. That's family. It's amazing,

903
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, because I know my upgrade. I came from

904
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: fifth Ward, which is an inner city, and my parents

905
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: upgraded a little bit, moved to it like a bigger

906
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: version of the inner city. You know, because I walked

907
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: out the doors doors, same black people walking around that

908
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I looked at when I moved from So I didn't

909
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: I didn't see the upgrade. But they said we were

910
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: living better. And the thing about it is that you

911
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: know sam croquettes, hot water, corn bread, peanut butter and jelly, sandwich, spam,

912
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, tuna, fish, sandwich, all that stuff that I

913
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: walked away from. Said that I found it, and I'm happy.

914
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm happy. That's right. That's why I made a big

915
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: I made a nice thing, Mobo tuna last night. Um

916
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: to the And then, of course we have all this

917
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: stuff to keep build up the immunet that's very important.

918
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: So start a home based business. Spend less money, build

919
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: your immune system daily. Breathe in some steam, breathing steam.

920
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: Just boil a pot of water and you put some

921
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: lemons or orange feel in it and breathe it in,

922
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: hold your breath, and then that forces uh. Any virus

923
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: that may have entered your now heel or your throat,

924
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: it kills it because the heat. It can't stand the heat.

925
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: So bring that in. Drink your warm liquids, your warm teeth,

926
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: and then get busy. Wake up every day, get ready,

927
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: go like you're going to work every single day. Go

928
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: fit into your space in your in your apartment or

929
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: your home or wherever it is and get busy. This

930
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: is this is a season. We we got quad locals

931
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: our our businesses this month. Awesome. Here's let's talk about

932
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: thinking ahead, because it's really interesting. In my life, I

933
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: always tell people, uh, nanny days is my minimum thought process,

934
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: but are usually six months to a year in my

935
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: landing all the time. And you know, this year starting

936
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: to you know, like you said, you know, you start planning,

937
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, the the new year in the third fourth

938
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: quarter of the previous year, you know, And a lot

939
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: of people don't do that if it's twent in their team,

940
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: that that fourth quarter when you playing, and you don't

941
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: just get to January and started saying what the won't do?

942
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Or you have to plan your taxes, your finances, how

943
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna how much money you're gonna leave in the

944
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: bank for the governor of the government overtaxs you or

945
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: attacks you too much because you left too much money

946
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: in your bank and you should have paid somebody out

947
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: or paid an expense or played the employee and paid

948
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: that bonuses and you let it roll over all those

949
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: thought processes. But it's really amazing how when you think

950
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: ahead you can prepare for so many things that you

951
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: don't see. And that's called preparing for the for the unknown,

952
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: and that's what proper planning is. And that's why I

953
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: really like when you were talking about your apply for unemployer. Man,

954
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: don't wait around if you're unemployed, go apply. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,

955
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: don't don't weigh around. This is the time and what

956
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: you're what you're talking about right now for planning. We

957
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: have to plan now for sixty to ninety days from now,

958
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going to happen. You know, people will

959
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: get in an uploar because our the president said everybody

960
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: will be back to normal. Boy Easter and folks who

961
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: like Easter, I say, yes, he means easter because he

962
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: cannot be talking about the one that about you're talking

963
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: about one, but in we don't know what's gonna happen.

964
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: So now is the time to plan for whatever until

965
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: attempt to be ready. So so I love your advice.

966
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and this is just advice that I live.

967
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do when I bring

968
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: an individual on the show. What your skills saying, you're

969
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: giving advice, Liver boy, advice. One thing I've never doubted

970
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: when I've talked to you, land. Is that the advice

971
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: that you're giving is like they said, over somebody's head,

972
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: over over their abilities to achieve. Because you know what

973
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: you said, apply for unemployment, Medicaid, food stamps, public assistance. Okay,

974
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: let me tell you do what you have to do.

975
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: When when this happened in two thousand and eight, that's

976
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: exactly what I did. I had I had left my

977
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: corporate position, I'd gone out, stepped out on faith. I

978
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: had had this opportunity with Russell Simmons running one of

979
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: his big programs in the economy crash. Our sponsors pulled out.

980
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: I kept working. I kept I didn't care the sponsor

981
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: pulled out. I kept working. And then I said, you

982
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go down here and get some

983
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: food stamps. I've put millions of dollars into the system.

984
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: ID go get my nine hundred out a month food stamps.

985
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: Because minimally, I knew that my family could eat, and

986
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: as long as I had a roof over my head

987
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: and we could eat and we had our utilities, then

988
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: I was able to create. So I didn't care about

989
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: shame and and understand. I went to the food stamp

990
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: office and I was like the local celebrity in Chicago.

991
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: I was the radio show host. Keeper knew me. I

992
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: did not care. I walked right on in the food

993
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: stamp office, said, of people got my food stamps, so

994
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: we have to do whatever we have to do. No shame.

995
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Surround yourself with with people who are moving in the

996
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: same direction. Grind. You know, I posted something else, and

997
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: this is a sensitive matter to a degree, but I said,

998
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: people have to read. You're gonna have to read. You know,

999
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: we're helping people. And then the exact thing that in

1000
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: the message that's read in big and bold, you're responding

1001
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: back with an attitude saying, you know, you think somebody's

1002
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: trying to teach you, it's right here and read. You

1003
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: have to read. So if you can't read, now it's

1004
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: the time to learn how to read. So this is

1005
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: just an opportunity to hit the reset button for all

1006
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: of us, me included. It's really important to hear that.

1007
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: I remember when the interest rate was dropped. You know,

1008
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: I immediately called my friends. I said, look, please look

1009
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: at that interest rate. If you have a home mortgage,

1010
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: look at refinancing. You have to realize, like I said,

1011
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: their opportunity these out here. You know if you if

1012
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: you can get a credit line, get your credit line

1013
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: now because the interest you this is what you're talking

1014
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: about in planning. You can sit around and complain. But

1015
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: if you're if you're if your credit line scores high,

1016
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. If you have an equity in

1017
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: your home, take advantage of that, get a low end

1018
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: credit line loan. You know that you can call on

1019
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: in the emergency, because, like I said, they said thirty days,

1020
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: they said April. You know the the the federal guidelines

1021
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: are going to be pushed to the end of April.

1022
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: We don't know that. You're just saying that. This is

1023
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: the same man came out and said, hey, Eastern the

1024
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: churches will be packed. Okay, he said this. So we

1025
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: cannot sit around saying, oh, that's that's going to be

1026
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: what we're going to do, because it's not true at all.

1027
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: So we have to become aggressive. We have to become

1028
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: the planners. And that is what you preach. That is

1029
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: what you teach on a regular braceist Lynn Richardson tell

1030
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: us again about that the webinar that you do on

1031
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: a daily basis, and also that incredible book that I Gotta,

1032
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 1: I Gotta, I gotta I gotta promote it again, especially

1033
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: during this period. So I need that banner for that book.

1034
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: And also I need to be able to drive people

1035
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: to your webinars. Okay, yes, and we're gonna get you

1036
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: a copy of the book. And you didn't know about

1037
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: it because I just created this Friday. I've been working

1038
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: on it and uh, someone reached out to me and

1039
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: and and there were really there were literally thousands of

1040
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: people that I realized we're in a situation with children

1041
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: at home, and they said, oh wait, you need to

1042
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: turn listen to a homemade business, get the kids involved.

1043
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: So I pulled together my resources, I got my team,

1044
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the trademark, all of that stuff. We rolled it out

1045
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: and so when folks woke up on Friday, they said,

1046
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: little wits, and you are crazy, But it's a kid,

1047
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: it's my first job. The kids died to money in entrepreneurship,

1048
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: and the parent can collaborate with us by hiring the

1049
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: child to work in their own based distance. And for

1050
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: the parents, it's the symphony a guide to creating embalancing

1051
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: multiple streams of income. And this is gonna force us

1052
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: as a community to sit down, have conversations and rather

1053
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: than your kids running around the house all day with

1054
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: no direction. You know, I see people suspending their children

1055
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: on social media. One lady said that she got fired

1056
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: for drinking on the job and that she's she was

1057
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: talking about herself from her old old school. She got

1058
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: got fired from my own home school. But it doesn't

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Speaker 1: that's Holly has Hollywood buzzing about her new book, Dirty

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Speaker 1: Little Secrets that Nobody wants to tell you about the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry. I've been in the industry, entertainment industry. I

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Speaker 1: read this book very excitable, very I got very excited

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Speaker 1: when I first of I read the titler. Oh, curiosity

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Speaker 1: she's told me a lot of information. Some things I

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Speaker 1: the one behind the scene of many many music and

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Speaker 1: beloved artists including uh, Tony Braxton, Chante More, Carrie Underwood, Fantasia,

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Speaker 1: Will Downing and Vogue, Escape the Brad, oh and many more.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making conversations. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I missed this young lady in my journey in music.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl Cobb, Hello, good morning, afternoon. How w how did

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Speaker 1: I missed you? You know all these names here, you

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Speaker 1: know Tony Braxton, Chante More, Fantasia. So many times I've

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Speaker 1: encountered my relationships saying fantasies in Vogue, Escape the Brad,

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Speaker 1: how did we not? And even in your when you

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Speaker 1: said Barry Hankerson, when you said Baron Hankerson, who was

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Speaker 1: at the time was managing or kill I go, Hi,

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Speaker 1: have I not met this young Lady's your car, we said, Barry.

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Speaker 1: When I read your book, you said Baron Hankerson, I

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Speaker 1: went through. I said, I don't know how I'm not

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Speaker 1: met her. You know what's funny, and you know this,

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Speaker 1: working with talent, you're in the background. And I tried

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Speaker 1: to really stay in the background and Letten let the

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Speaker 1: artists be the artists. I'd be the manager or the

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Speaker 1: branding person. And let them do their job, and I

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Speaker 1: was there to support and I enjoyed it was fun

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Speaker 1: and I liked it like that. Well, you know the

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Speaker 1: funny part about your book. I would like to ask,

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Speaker 1: I guess when they come on the show, what is

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Speaker 1: your gift or gifts? Srill call one of my loyalty

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Speaker 1: m hm, loyalty is I'll tell you this. It's also

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Speaker 1: it's one of my wisest and biggest strengths and also

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Speaker 1: one of my biggest failures because I'm loyal to a

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Speaker 1: fault and sometimes that will get you in trouble. But

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Speaker 1: my father was a marine SEMPREEFID That's how I grew up.

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Speaker 1: And when you get into something that you love and

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Speaker 1: attach yourself to something that you believe in, then you'd

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Speaker 1: be loyal to that and pray perfectly they'll they'll be

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Speaker 1: loyal to you. But that's one of my biggest strengths,

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Speaker 1: is loyalty. We know it's really Also when I say that,

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Speaker 1: is that when I'm reading a book, one of the

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Speaker 1: things that one of my big takeaways from your book

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Speaker 1: the book I'm talking to Sheriff Carb and her book

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Speaker 1: is entitled Dirty Little Secrets that Nobody wants to tell

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Speaker 1: you about the entertainment industry, was that we get into

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Speaker 1: this business not really knowing our true gifts. That's why

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Speaker 1: I asked what your gift was, because you know, you

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Speaker 1: came in and as an assistant for a lot of

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Speaker 1: uh talented people. And one of the fun stories I

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Speaker 1: read was when Tony Braxton looked at you and so

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Speaker 1: you you're not a man, you're not under a sister,

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Speaker 1: You're a manager. And the very next day you quit

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Speaker 1: and she fired you at the same time. Story it

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Speaker 1: was a mutual agreement. It was we were working on

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Speaker 1: a video in Miami, Florida, and she was lovely and

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Speaker 1: I went in and we were introduced through a mutual

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Speaker 1: friends and after spending a couple of days on the

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Speaker 1: video shoot, on the way home, yeah, she was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why you're trying to be

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Speaker 1: my assistant. But she didn't know that I had just

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Speaker 1: gotten into the business and I've been working with Luther

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Speaker 1: Vangrol for about maybe nine months. That was my first gig,

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Speaker 1: Luther Vandros traveling the world and she needed an assistant

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Hey, this is the next gig,

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Speaker 1: I'll take it, and I took the job, and you know,

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Speaker 1: after the weekend, I was like, I can't do this.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it the same like I think you should.

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Speaker 1: You should be something else. I'll tell you what. Maybe,

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Speaker 1: Like um about after she said this is not gonna

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Speaker 1: work and I said, you know, you're right, it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: not gonna work out. She called me back about a

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Speaker 1: month later, just randomly at the Clear Blue Side and

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Speaker 1: so I'm going to Europe. I need a tour manager.

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Speaker 1: Would you be interested? And I was like absolutely, I'd

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Speaker 1: never traveled to Europe uh in that capacity, but I

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01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: was like, I could do it. And that's how we

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Speaker 1: started our journey. And I think we had like a

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Speaker 1: six or seven year journey from you know for me

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Speaker 1: being her road matt tour manager, road manager, go onto

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Speaker 1: her day to day manager, and then made of honor

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Speaker 1: in her wedding. So it was, you know, that's how

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Speaker 1: relationships established. Um. But that's how I started my journey

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Speaker 1: with Tony Braxton and it was a good journey. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting when I read when I'm

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Speaker 1: reading about the book, because that little moment right there,

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Speaker 1: being a tour manager to Europe. Okay, now, that's something

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Speaker 1: you had not done at the time, had not, But

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Speaker 1: that did not throw any fear into you, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let me pass on this opportunity. But that's the drive,

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Speaker 1: that's the drive that you have inside, that's the that's

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Speaker 1: the gift that you have inside, is that you're not

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Speaker 1: you know, allow you never let fear win. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people left fear win a change the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: They doubt themselves, but you didn't doubt yourself. Why not? Well,

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Speaker 1: I knew going into the industry that I could do it.

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Speaker 1: I had a background in production, so I was just

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Speaker 1: clear and faith. I walked out on faith on every

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Speaker 1: decision I make. It's faith um experienced though. Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you I worked with Luther, and Luther was a

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Speaker 1: perfectionist and I had the yes, yes he was Excuse me.

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Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of traveling to Europe with Luthor

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Speaker 1: as a hospitality director. So I was way in the background. Lord,

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Speaker 1: that's the potem pole. But you know what I did.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Rashaan, I attached to myself to

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Speaker 1: his tour manager and we became best friends and he

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Speaker 1: taught me everything. Cath Richard's blessed his so he's not today,

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Speaker 1: but he was excellent and I and let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: anybody knows anything about Lucive Andros, they knew that he

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Speaker 1: everything was first class. Everything, his staff, his team, it

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Speaker 1: was superb. So I attached myself to somebody who I

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Speaker 1: knew understood business. And once I got the job with

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Speaker 1: Toni Braxton, I was like, I do this relationship Smarty,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about, you know, really interesting when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about this, because you know, she got introduced

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Speaker 1: to this world at first class level. Lutherve Andro's career,

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Speaker 1: Uh when she came on board, three thousand people was

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Speaker 1: a minimum that he will perform in front of Luther

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Speaker 1: rain Dross and and you know, everything had to be right,

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 1: the food had He was a consummate professional, and so

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Speaker 1: when you walked in the room, he was never allowed.

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Speaker 1: You know, his pasona, his his brand, all those things

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Speaker 1: matter to him. And that's why he had had the

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Speaker 1: career that he had and left us with the hits

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Speaker 1: that he left us with because he treated everybody as

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Speaker 1: humans and never saw himself as being bigger than the moment.

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Speaker 1: And so that was that was like, you know, that

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Speaker 1: was like a PhD. On how to do a tour

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Speaker 1: right and how to how to treat people on a tour.

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Speaker 1: That you got right? Is that I keep telling you, girl,

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Speaker 1: I should have met you. Okay, again, this is Sheryl Carr.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Sheryl car. She has a book called

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Speaker 1: Dirty Little Secrets that nobody wants to tell you about

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Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. Now this person again, Luther Van Draws,

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Speaker 1: hospitality director Tony Bradston Chante more carry Underwood. You know,

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Speaker 1: American Highland Plantation, American Highland, Will Diamond, who I loved,

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Speaker 1: who I feel there's never gotten this due as a

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Speaker 1: performer or a single. He's just as amazing as Luther

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: as absolutely in vogue, escape all the brad you know.

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Speaker 1: It's this is just a short list of people that

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Speaker 1: she has uh she has touched. And when I say touch,

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Speaker 1: let me just get personal a little bit. From a manager,

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Speaker 1: management perspective or producer perspective, rance has to be there.

1250
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Speaker 1: You have to have answers when people they will come

1251
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: to you for answers and you can't go uhh, you

1252
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: have you better have an answer because they're depending on you,

1253
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,560
Speaker 1: when they wake up, depending on you. When't you go

1254
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: to sleep. Um, I remember Steve Harvey still always tell

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Speaker 1: me here you know everything, you know what you're shying

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Speaker 1: to go? Yeah? Yeah, And even he's sure he was

1257
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Speaker 1: looking at me, go you serious, aren't you? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: am serious. What you need to know, Steve, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you because I'm not gonna sit a bit tell

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Speaker 1: you I don't know anything. And it was so it

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Speaker 1: was so funny because I, you know, managed Steven A

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Speaker 1: Smith Nows And it was so funny that Steven he

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: called me, he called me off god he and he

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Speaker 1: asked me a question. I went, I don't know. He went,

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: hold up. Now this needs to make the national news.

1266
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Rashan mcdun't said he didn't know anything, and so and

1267
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: that down on me out of respect and also out

1268
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: of uh that people know that about your brand, that

1269
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: they know they can come to you and get an

1270
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: honest statement that they know. And that's what you have

1271
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: built in your life. You don't get all these names

1272
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: associated with your brand, Schirl unless you get that reputation

1273
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 1: of being honest, get that reputation of being able to deliver. Yes, yes,

1274
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something very interesting that you said,

1275
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: being able to be honest is so important and one

1276
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: of the secrets in my book, I think it's number nine.

1277
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: It's called pick your Battles. And what Pick your Battles

1278
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: explains is is that as a manager, your job is

1279
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: to advise and to consult. You're not You're not their boss,

1280
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: and they're not your boss. Your job is to actually

1281
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: because when they don't take your advice, our consultation, then

1282
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: your job is no longer needed. So you know, if

1283
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: I have an artist and I advised them and they

1284
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: decided not to take my advice, then my advice to

1285
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: them is do what you need. I'm gonna back you

1286
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: and we'll find a solution right or wrong. But this

1287
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,560
Speaker 1: is my advice and this is what wise counsel is

1288
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: so important. But at the end of the day, they

1289
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: make their own decisions and you have to go with it. Absolutely.

1290
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: It was one of the one of your favorite lines

1291
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: in this book of you said, you've been fired, rehired,

1292
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: and quit. You've been fired by some of the best

1293
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: people in the industry. And it's okay. Now. Yes. The

1294
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: reason I'm a I'm a slow this down for mane

1295
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: because I gotta talk a little racial here, because I

1296
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: learned this. I learned this in the business, you know

1297
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: from from my white counterparts. You know I would they

1298
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: would get fired. They come in, shake the person's hand,

1299
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: say thank you for the opportunity, and walk point. And

1300
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: I've seen my my black counter for mad. But we

1301
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: all know nobody likes to get fired. Nobody likes to

1302
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: get You know that that's a bad experience. But but

1303
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: this is the long run. This is the run, This

1304
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: is a relationship. How you react because it's a very

1305
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 1: small circle in high the wood entertainment is a very

1306
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: small circle. So if you're a fool over here, leave,

1307
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: it gonna circulate to everybody real quick. So it's how

1308
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: you exit, how you exit those dark moments. It is

1309
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: very key, and it's from a minority perspective. You cannot

1310
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: take this stuff personal. You cannot. But you know what's

1311
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: interesting about that, that's a learned behavior too, because nobody

1312
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: you could work at Walmart, nobody wants to get fired.

1313
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel good under any circumstances, doesn't feel good.

1314
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: But once you understand the process, and that's this is

1315
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: why I wrote this book. And number You're Gonna Get

1316
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: Fired is my number one chapter is because you're going

1317
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: to get fired, and I teach you how to process it.

1318
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: And there's like four or five little steps that you

1319
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 1: have to go to get to recovery. And those steps,

1320
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: although their small, as you say, little nudgets, they are meaningful.

1321
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: And when you understand them and you you begin to

1322
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: source because you go into your next job and you

1323
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,879
Speaker 1: understand that it's a job and you have to separate

1324
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: the friendship from the business. Being able to talk to

1325
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: somebody who's been there, done that, it's really refreshing. And

1326
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: I found that really really refreshing about your book is

1327
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: that it's very honest and very truthful and putting together

1328
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: a book like this walk us through the steps, Cheryl,

1329
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: you know it. First we'll start with experience, just really experience.

1330
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: And I was literally I wrote another book, which I'll

1331
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: tell you about later when I wrote that, but it's

1332
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: a bigger book. But this ten dirty Little Secret is

1333
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 1: a small book out of the big book. As I

1334
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: was writing the book, I was like, he's a nugget

1335
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: that people need to know. So these were extracted out

1336
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: of my bigger book. And I decided to release this

1337
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: from first because right now, these kids out here, and

1338
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: then also experienced artists that can't like reboot their careers

1339
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: need to read the books. So that's how it started,

1340
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: just me going over. I was like, what are the

1341
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: ten things? Not a lot? There's something simple, the ten

1342
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: things that I believe people need to know. And I

1343
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: decided to use the things that affected me mos, which

1344
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: is friendship, business, finance, loyalty, you know, picking your battles,

1345
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: and then also the administrative stuff which I'm sure we'll

1346
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: get into later, and that's called your team. And so

1347
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: both and picking the right team and having the ranking,

1348
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: so both were like the strongest things I can remember

1349
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: that will affect every artist. Every last one of these

1350
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: ten nuggets will affect you, no matter who you are.

1351
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: And so that's where the whole, that's where the energy

1352
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: came from. I know, I wanted to stand in order,

1353
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: but you brought up something that I want to keep

1354
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: at the top of the mind. The team. Who is

1355
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: your team? What is your team? I remember when I

1356
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: stopped managing Steve Harvey and and I was by myself,

1357
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: you know, and I was trying to figure all this

1358
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: out by myself, and and and it took me about

1359
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: a year to realize Roshan you were successful with Steve Harvey,

1360
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: for sure, but you also had a team. And so

1361
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: in t seventeen, I started assembling a team around me.

1362
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 1: People who knew my brand, who trusted me, had more

1363
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: passion for my brand sometimes than I had, because because

1364
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: it's important to have people around you that have passion

1365
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: for your brand, because it can get tiring. Just keep

1366
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: talking about yourself, keep motivating yourself, keep moving forward, and

1367
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: they drop some information about you, then you go, oh, yeah,

1368
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, because always t people. When you

1369
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: keep telling the same story, you start reshaping it because

1370
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: out of boarder, you start changing it, and you start

1371
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: short changing your opportunity to short changing the things that

1372
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: you've accomplished becau you trying to keep the story fresh

1373
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: for you. So it's important to have a team around

1374
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: you that will remind you of your story, the whole story,

1375
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: and to remind you of your capability, not a part

1376
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: of your capability, but your overall results. And that's why

1377
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: I keep reminding of the relationships that you have because

1378
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 1: when you come on Minds your Money Made conversation, I

1379
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 1: always want to talk about not with so much what

1380
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 1: you're doing right now, but also their journey, because the

1381
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: journey gives you the validation of why we're talking right now,

1382
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: why you can write a book like that. If I

1383
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: just start just talking about this book, people may get

1384
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: lost going I don't know what. Who is she? Well,

1385
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 1: I guess what. I Am about to tell you who

1386
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,160
Speaker 1: she is. I'm about to tell you why you should

1387
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 1: be impressed. I'm gonna tell you. In this book, she

1388
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: talks about her flaws. She talks about her mistakes. She

1389
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: talks about how she's gotten up several times, how being

1390
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: fired was attack on her integrity. How r Kelly's old

1391
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 1: manager custoded like she was a man. That was the

1392
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: funniest line in that book. Im. If you know Barry,

1393
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: you know it was funny. When I read, I laughed.

1394
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: So I said, I said, I said, said he cut me.

1395
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: I like I a man, Like I was a man.

1396
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: I was paralyzed, Oh my god, truly paralyzed. And if

1397
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you if that was a defining moment

1398
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: for me, because I could have given up at that

1399
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: point because it didn't feel good and it hurt, and

1400
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 1: I was scared. He loved me, he was just angry

1401
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: with me. And that was that. And so you know,

1402
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: but for me, it wasn't right. It wasn't right though, No, no,

1403
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't right. It wasn't right. But you know what,

1404
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: I took that and I'm paralyzed. Let me tell you.

1405
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: I was paralyzed for a minute. And then I was like,

1406
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: you know what, he didn't make me mhm uh. So

1407
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: let's go back to what I know. Because what I

1408
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: know nobody can take away from. So let's take what

1409
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: I know and let's start there and start over. Something

1410
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: that you said I don't want to get over is

1411
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: you were talking about the team, and um, you asked

1412
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: me how did I come up with the team and

1413
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: how did I recover from being fired or from me?

1414
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: Just tell you this, I same thing that happened to

1415
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: you happened to me. And then when you're out there

1416
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: alone on the island, you start used to get depressed.

1417
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: It's easy to get depressed. It easy to go Okay, God,

1418
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: I've worked so many years for this person and I've

1419
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 1: made them successful, and here I am alone. So I

1420
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: really started digging deep within. I was like, Okay, I'm

1421
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna come up with with a thing, Crown fixer.

1422
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fix. I need my crown six and I'm

1423
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: gonna fix other people's crown. Okay, I'm betting on me. Okay,

1424
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: it's time to bet on me. Those are the things.

1425
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: So I have a good friend. I'm gonna give her

1426
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: a shout out because she is the editor and ghostwriter

1427
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: with me on my books. Her name is Dr Dean Gordon.

1428
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: I promise you this woman is amazing, she said. I

1429
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: told her I had a story, said come talk to me.

1430
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: I sat there and I talked to this woman for

1431
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: about three hours, and the next day she brought the

1432
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: manuscript and I could believe. She was like, this is

1433
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: your story. You wrote this. I just typed it and

1434
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 1: just put it in order. And that's how we started writing.

1435
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: And we finished that book and we started on another book.

1436
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: She's she is like a dream story whisperer. She will

1437
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 1: take your stories. You might think the story is one thing,

1438
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: and then you finished talking to her and you come

1439
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: out finding out, oh my god, I have a whole

1440
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: different story in me. So Stan Gordon's stuck with me,

1441
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: walked with me through the Jeremy pam Brussard, who's my publicist,

1442
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: who you know, was an amazing who came to me

1443
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I trust in you. You've

1444
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: brought me a lot of clients. You've been very low

1445
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 1: to me. You know what, I'm gonna get on your team.

1446
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: And then I have a young lady that's been under me,

1447
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: under my tutelage for years, the name of sureI Griffin said,

1448
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,560
Speaker 1: I do social media. I'll do your social media. And

1449
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: I trust all three of those people. And we put

1450
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: a team together, and I mean, honestly, that's write it

1451
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: and I'll do the rest. And now it's just like

1452
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: take it off. Well, you know this is really is

1453
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: because it's important. And when you talk about her putting

1454
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: information in that you forgot. That's all I'm talking about.

1455
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: When you were a success and you don't have a

1456
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: team around you, then you for can forget your greatness,

1457
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: you can forget your accomplishments. Because sometimes I always tell

1458
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 1: people like, sometimes you gotta have somebody else brag about you,

1459
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: hype you talk about you. That's why I love rappers.

1460
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: They started the hype game. Gotta come out there. I'm

1461
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna tell you who come out and come out there.

1462
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: But but actually I started with Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Alias

1463
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: started the hypers. You know he started somebody coming out there,

1464
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: go out there and tell everybody how great I am.

1465
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: Why come out there? Absolutely absolutely there there were they

1466
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: were They were oral publicists. You know, you know who

1467
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: about to come on this stage. You really tell this

1468
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 1: bad boy up, the greatest box of all time, the

1469
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: prettiest box of all time, and so and so that's

1470
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: what and so when you when you when you do so.

1471
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: When I was doing stand up comedy as a host,

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Speaker 1: that's all I was doing. I was as a host.

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Speaker 1: I was a hype god. They give me the credits

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Speaker 1: and I go, okay, I gotta hype this person up

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Speaker 1: so everybody could realize why they should be excited about

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Speaker 1: this person. So they're laugh at his jokes. Okay, a

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Speaker 1: singer and things like that. So so so, now you've

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Speaker 1: got a team of hype people around. That's all. I

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Speaker 1: have a team of hype people around because sometimes I

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Speaker 1: tell things like don't worry about that, to go, what

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Speaker 1: do you don't worry about that? You have a degree

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Speaker 1: in mathematics. Oh yeah, okay, that's that's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: What should put it in your bio? How about working

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Speaker 1: for working at IBM? That's a big deal and so

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Speaker 1: because you start cutting off little slices of your success.

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Speaker 1: So it's important your book talk about that. And it's

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Speaker 1: important that you understand the value of having people around

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Speaker 1: you to promote your brand, support your brand, hype your brand.

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Speaker 1: That part of the book was so important to me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And what did you read the the part

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Speaker 1: right after that, This is loyalty a team, but your

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Speaker 1: team has to be that person has to be loyal

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Speaker 1: to you as well. Absolutely both ways, absolutely absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: I got that tip from Open Went Free. Well you

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Speaker 1: know again you know, uh you went to meet her

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Speaker 1: with Fantasia, okay, and you call Gail King, makes your

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Speaker 1: Guil King, I read your book, young lady. Would just

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Speaker 1: let you know. See sure, Sherleys, I'm gonna drop a

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Speaker 1: nugget or whatever, because see, so you have to read

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Speaker 1: the book. It's certain things when you read the book,

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Speaker 1: you have to pick up a little nuances. So so

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Speaker 1: Fantasia wanted to open wanted to talk to this Phantasia. Fantasia,

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Speaker 1: Fantasia call Shery, So Sharyl, I want you to come

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Speaker 1: with you come with me to meet with Oprah And

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Speaker 1: oper was her idol, So she wasn't gonna pass up

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Speaker 1: on the chance to But but you didn't want to

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Speaker 1: go in to a meeting if Gail King wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: be there. So you reached out to Gail King, and

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Speaker 1: Gail King says she's gonna be there. You got to

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Speaker 1: go to the meeting meet your idol because King was there.

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Speaker 1: Because that was a relationship you had built along the way.

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Speaker 1: And life is a wonderful thing. I've read you and

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Speaker 1: so when I tell people go read your book, they

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Speaker 1: should read your book. That story we're gonna leave people

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Speaker 1: to read because it's a great It was so it's

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Speaker 1: so inspiring what she taught and what she said she

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Speaker 1: can healse me with Sam Page. I just happened to

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Speaker 1: be collateral. I just have to be there, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so I was able to take it absorbed. I

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Speaker 1: was in the meeting and then I stepped out and

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Speaker 1: let's them have a private meeting. But the the beginning

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Speaker 1: of that meeting was so powerful, and what she said

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Speaker 1: stuck with me and I had to tell that story ablutely.

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Speaker 1: There another story you're telling the book is by your

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Speaker 1: relationship with r. Kelly or Robert Kelly. You don't only

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Speaker 1: need to Robert Kelly. Okay, and then you say this,

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Speaker 1: and I took this out of the book. It has

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Speaker 1: been uh, I've been Uh. He never tried to sleep

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Speaker 1: with me and treated me like a princess. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people may not like that I'm writing this, but

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Speaker 1: every situation is different. I only knew that version of

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Speaker 1: our Robert Kelly. That's what you call it, Robert because

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that we all know what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the media right now. But that's but you

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Speaker 1: can't deny the relationship and the positive impact that that

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Speaker 1: relationship had in your life. And you mentioned that in

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Speaker 1: the book, but you still felt it had value to

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,839
Speaker 1: your story. Correct. It was so important, And people warned

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01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: me about mentioning it, but I was like, I'm not ashamed.

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Speaker 1: It's a part of my journey when I worked with him,

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Speaker 1: and it'll tell you in the book through interscope. I

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Speaker 1: worked with Jimmy I being the stout were I ran

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Speaker 1: his record label and so I didn't run to the

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Speaker 1: gym and play basketball and in lifts private life. So

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Speaker 1: you can work with somebody and have absolutely no idea

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Speaker 1: about what they're doing in their private life. So I

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Speaker 1: was astonished and still am. I'm just hurt beyond measure

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Speaker 1: because you know, and you know, everybody gets their day

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Speaker 1: in course, but my journey, my experience, was not a

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: bad experience. So I had to put it in there

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01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: because it's fair. And you'll notice in the book I

1552
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: throw myself under the bus several times because I have

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Speaker 1: to tell the truth about the journey because no matter

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Speaker 1: who you work with, good or bad, some times, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have had clients to file bankruptcy. I was right there.

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Speaker 1: I checked clients who who's had you know, And I

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Speaker 1: never tell anybody's private business in the book. I tell

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Speaker 1: my private business absolutely, and that's and that was That

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Speaker 1: was fine with me, Like I said, But this part

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Speaker 1: of the book I thought was important because if relationships

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Speaker 1: or what make us and so good or bad? And

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Speaker 1: so I felt it was a very courageous moment for

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Speaker 1: you because you could took it an easy road out

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Speaker 1: and say I'm not leaving this part out and I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna talk about this. But you're talking about dirty

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Speaker 1: little secrets and entertainment industry, and some of these secrets

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Speaker 1: are about people who you work with, people who you

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Speaker 1: do business with. But how do you act there's no

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Speaker 1: different than I'm not trying to go into that next levels.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people did business Harvey Waynstein, Rinstein. So

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Speaker 1: so that's that's a durning little secret that now he's

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Speaker 1: in he's been committed to twenty three years of incarceration

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Speaker 1: based on that verdict. And so but in your book,

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Speaker 1: it's so many it's about relationship you talk about it's

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01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: about being fired, it's about the team you put around.

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Speaker 1: It's about the people, because the team is the key

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Speaker 1: at that point. Now, because the fact that you have

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Speaker 1: people around you to tell you I wouldn't do that,

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Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would avoid those relationships is

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Speaker 1: not something you should have on your resume. But those

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Speaker 1: are the things that we deal in life. But you're

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Speaker 1: telling this story is a great book, Cheryl, tell us

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Speaker 1: how we get the book, because, as you can say,

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Speaker 1: and I've enjoyed the book, I've lived that life as

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Speaker 1: a manager, as a producer. You've dropped some nuggets on me.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, the nuggets that you're dropping in the

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Speaker 1: book are relatable to everyday people. Well, you can have

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Speaker 1: two things. Let me just say this, it has been

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure to talk to you. It's like, I

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Speaker 1: know you brought my brother, and the honor of it

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Speaker 1: is that you understanding. You clearly see it because you

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Speaker 1: had the same experiences. So I love that and I

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Speaker 1: love talking to you. And when we get off this line,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to a little bit more. But you

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Speaker 1: can't get the book. It's everywhere. Um ten Dirty Little

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Speaker 1: But I'm also on Barnes and Noble, I'm on Amazon,

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Speaker 1: I'm on Kindle, so I'm left to be everywhere all

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Speaker 1: Just push it. The book is there and all the

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Speaker 1: other sites. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, all of it. Ten

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Speaker 1: Dirty Little Secrets and I would just just my closest day.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite chapters was the was the reality

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Speaker 1: show that you would do with Shante Moore and r God,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's because I've been there. I've been there.

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Speaker 1: You know, they tell you one thing and they get

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Speaker 1: you out there. You we're going and that's not working

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Speaker 1: for us. We gotta we gotta turn up the value.

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Speaker 1: We gotta turn up the drama. This is not gonna

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Speaker 1: be uh, this a little nice story we told you

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Speaker 1: guys were gonna do. And then you gotta protect your brain,

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Speaker 1: you gotta protect your people, gotta protect you. And then

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Speaker 1: And that's how people can manipulate you in this business.

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Speaker 1: And those are the dirty little secrets that she's talking

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Speaker 1: about in the book. You know, is that just because

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Speaker 1: you signed up to do something doesn't mean that's going

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Speaker 1: to be the final story. Absolutely, and that is that

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Speaker 1: the Perez family home, just waiting for the and there

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Speaker 1: Man came in, he came in. Man just just toured up.

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01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Man became on Steve Harvey is adversary to uh when

1680
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 1: the Rick Robinson and that's my girl right there, you know.

1681
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 1: And that's that's relationships, man, That's that's relationships. And that's

1682
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: that's that's really your career. Because the thing in this business,

1683
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: man is you always want to know what people say

1684
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: about you, think about you, and what you do when

1685
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: you when they when they give you that opportunity, and

1686
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: you you be very consistent about that. Can you talk

1687
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: about that? I am so blessed to have the longevity

1688
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: that I do have. I don't know what it is,

1689
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: but it's, like you said, it's the relationships that that

1690
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 1: you you pave along the way. I've always worked with

1691
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: incredible people that I admired and those relationships stick, you know,

1692
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: on down the road because you never know, you know

1693
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: that that grip that uh that you know, operator uh

1694
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: might have the next big movie or whatever. So you

1695
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: know I attributed that and God and uh just trying

1696
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: to stay relevant and you relevant and you stay rel

1697
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's just show why you relevant. Chairsh today. Okay,

1698
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 1: Now it's like, who are you talking about? You know,

1699
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a man. You know, first of all,

1700
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: if anybody has not seen the Love Story by Avadukeay

1701
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 1: on their own network for the Oprah Winfrey Network, Um

1702
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: and um, oh my god, you played the farther figure

1703
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: and read also plays the mother. You guys have two

1704
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: characters to come in and just take over that episode emotionally.

1705
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Um and you know it just talked about getting involved

1706
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 1: with the show like that. That is a it's a

1707
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: time piece from the standpoint she jumps most and years

1708
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: in the relationship. And there's only eight episodes, but it

1709
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: is the talk of the town as far as UH

1710
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: television U making, filmmaking, television making. Nobody has done that

1711
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: before like that. But no, if it has been done,

1712
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: it is never captured the imagination of the viewing audience

1713
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 1: like it has today. You are part of African America.

1714
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: My god, God, it is so dope to to be

1715
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 1: a part of this amazing production. And I'm I'm so

1716
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: glad that people get to see me outside of my gendre,

1717
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 1: of my box that comedy. Um, you know that that

1718
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: everybody knows me for to be able to play this

1719
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 1: this interesting character. Um. This this father who is you know,

1720
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: the head of the household, but he's really not because

1721
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: the mother is yet once again relationships and we we

1722
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: go way back to the Parkers as well. And uh.

1723
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: And when they told me that she was cast, I

1724
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: was like, is she getting ready to kill this? But

1725
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: I had a great time. It's an all star cast. Um.

1726
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Just just a wonderful vibe and and something really different,

1727
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: like you were saying, Uh, to see African Americans. Uh,

1728
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 1: couple that are in love and you know the child's

1729
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,839
Speaker 1: and tribulations that they go through. Um, and it's carried

1730
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: through years. Um you know, and you have the legendary

1731
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 1: Sincily Tyson. Um. Yeah, I mean this amazing, Yeah, exactly exactly.

1732
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: But your character, you play with such an important character

1733
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: because you know it is kind of funny and then

1734
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: but that's men that stairwell and not giving. This series

1735
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,479
Speaker 1: was very dramatic, and it was like, that's what you're

1736
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: talking about. Give you a chance to spread. You do

1737
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: a little humor, but you come back and you're reel

1738
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 1: and that's that's a that's a unique ability that we're

1739
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: quite often to don't see that much because of the character.

1740
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Right see you as a sitcom star, see if comedy

1741
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: we leave, come in and be funny and break up

1742
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: the moment. And this shirt allows this series allows people

1743
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: to see you from a very very uh enjoyable, unjarable.

1744
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 1: Congratulations man, congratulations, Thank you so much. Man. It allowed

1745
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: me to stretch my acting muscle, if you will. But

1746
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know I'm classically trained, you know,

1747
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, I know, yes, of course, because you're with

1748
01:34:53,000 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Steve used to clown all the time acting, But yeah,

1749
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: I did all of Shakespeare and dramatic stuff, slowdowns on

1750
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the killing ground, um, you know, just it's serious of

1751
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: deep pieces. And I graduated from um, you know, doing

1752
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 1: this performing arts school, came to l A and you

1753
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: know right away I'm cast as a funny sidekick on

1754
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: the show Uh dream on um And, which I did

1755
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,440
Speaker 1: for six years, and after that, I was like totally pitcheonholed.

1756
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: It's like, this is a funny guy. He's a comic,

1757
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 1: you know, but I have I do have a range,

1758
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: and so absolutely, you know, I'm so they get to

1759
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: see it in that show, and I was thankful to

1760
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: see it because it's just, you know, it's just it's

1761
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: just fascinating to watch. I consider you a friend in

1762
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: the business. I could see you with somebody that if

1763
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to cast a role, I want

1764
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 1: to bring you in to make sure you get an

1765
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 1: opportunity because you're professional and hear that here, thank you,

1766
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: thank you, but you're not but don't want you just

1767
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: stuck with just chairs today is amazing. But have a

1768
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 1: TV one series stepping back and stepping back to low,

1769
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 1: stepping back to low, tell us about that. Uh, once again,

1770
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: I got to play this incredible role. I'm playing the

1771
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: father of the lead character um and Uh, Darren Henson,

1772
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 1: who is amazing in his own right. He's a beautiful dancer. Uh.

1773
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 1: He has we have this um love hate relationship with

1774
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: his father and son that I bring out that I'm saying,

1775
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, I just want the best for my son,

1776
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 1: so I pushed him, uh to to make him a

1777
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: better man. And it doesn't come across that way to

1778
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: him at all times, because it just seems seems like

1779
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, you know, being a beast on him. But

1780
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: you know, I know he's capable of you know, greater

1781
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,600
Speaker 1: things in my eye, um so um, you know, and

1782
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: once again I got to play this get this incredible role,

1783
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: um opposite of him. But it was a beautiful project.

1784
01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: Um and they had a great time shooting it. And

1785
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of Darren, So Darren Hanson and he's

1786
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: done a lot of plays on the road. You've probably

1787
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: have seen him in those. He's very good and amazing dance.

1788
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: He's on fools as well. The thing about it is

1789
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: that when because I've watched some clips from the series,

1790
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 1: is that when you're talking about it, like my father

1791
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: he was passed away, our relationship was kind of like that.

1792
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: You know, he had expectations for me, and I had

1793
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 1: expectations for myself, and so and so. In the series,

1794
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: it comes across, which is a good storytelling, by the way,

1795
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 1: where he thinks he wants you to live the life

1796
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: that you want him to live, and that creates the

1797
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: conflict because you're just trying to get him to live

1798
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: the best life that he can possible and that's the

1799
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: that's the basis of that storytelling for that particular series. Correct. Yes,

1800
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 1: absolutely and uh and not to be outdone. My father

1801
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: was the same way. He pushed me. It was accept

1802
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: thing of everything that I do and always, um is

1803
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 1: that first person to be that that cheerleader, uh, you know,

1804
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: to encourage me. But I believe me if it wasn't

1805
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: for him, my mother as well, UM, they wanted me

1806
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: to be the best me um. And so you know

1807
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: they laid that foundation with God and and hard work,

1808
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: uh and dedication. There's nothing that I couldn't do. And

1809
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 1: so you know I realized that and that's what I

1810
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: passed on to my kids as well and try to

1811
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: encourage them as well. Well. The next two things I'm

1812
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 1: about to bring up what excites me about what's what's

1813
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: happening in career? You executive producing, not saying you haven't

1814
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: done any advance, but these projects that we're about to

1815
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: talk about the next two projects, you are the executive producer,

1816
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: one of the executive producer. The first project we want

1817
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: talk about is starring and the bt S Network show

1818
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: called He's Hers and the Truth. First of all, I

1819
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: love that title. Right there, He's Hers and the Truth

1820
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: right there, I'm watching right there, So I'm watching that.

1821
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm watching that because you know, there's a lot, there's

1822
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: a kind of and there's the twothre ye. Remember there's

1823
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,760
Speaker 1: the lines on the hit side, that's the lies on

1824
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 1: the side. What is the truth? But the funny part

1825
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: is it's it's our truth as well. You know, we

1826
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: really believe that we're telling the truth. This is our perspective,

1827
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, uh, coming from us, but in lies somewhere

1828
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 1: in the middle, that's where the truth is. Though, So

1829
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: how do you get involved and get the title of

1830
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: executive producing for this particular show. Well, first of all,

1831
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: the first and foremost, I have an amazing manager. Um

1832
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: managers management. Yeah, you must be on the phone, and uh,

1833
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: believe me, every project that he does or that the

1834
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: company does, I'm involved with some way or another. I'm

1835
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: actually in the movie as well. Um. But I got

1836
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: to really put a different hat on back and try to,

1837
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, make this project come to fruition and uh,

1838
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm having such a great time learning the business as well. Now,

1839
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, I got to be behind in front of

1840
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: the camera for many many years, but now to be

1841
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: a part of you making Yeah, man, it's a it's

1842
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful things. So it's really amazing that people you know,

1843
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: you know you have you have an acting executive producer

1844
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and you have a working executive producer. You know, I'll

1845
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 1: be fortunate to be a working executive producer, which you've

1846
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 1: all been. The casting, it goes all down to can

1847
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: we pay that actress or can we pay that actor

1848
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 1: or is that a five and under? No, they have

1849
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: person as a stand in the room and be silent,

1850
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 1: can't get together and they gotta act like they active,

1851
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: but they can't say anything. It comes down to that.

1852
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: It comes down to catering, it comes down to set design.

1853
01:40:55,680 --> 01:41:00,519
Speaker 1: It really is the things that we don't see and

1854
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: it in front of us here. But it's it's crazy,

1855
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a lot of work, and

1856
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 1: people don't realize that. You know. In fact, I felt

1857
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of good because you were talking about all that

1858
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 1: work that we have been doing behind the sidelines, behind

1859
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:18,360
Speaker 1: the scenes. You didn't know about tatering and wardrobe and

1860
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 1: uh you know that's that's the fun part about why

1861
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: I love being behind the camera. Well, I love being

1862
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: in front of the camera because I did all that

1863
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 1: I believe from all the stuff that you guys do,

1864
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,600
Speaker 1: but you know, to to really be able to be

1865
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,959
Speaker 1: a part of the decision making and the whole process

1866
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: of making a project come to fruition is amazing And

1867
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: I'm learning that, um. And I learned that from uh,

1868
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, being an executive producer on the film his

1869
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: hers and the truth um working with incredible brothers that

1870
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: have done this for many, many years. This is uh

1871
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: their seventh movie together and so for them to bring

1872
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,839
Speaker 1: me apart be a part of this is uh amazing

1873
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 1: to me because I'm learning as I'm doing, um, you know,

1874
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: and I can bring um the acting side to it

1875
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. One of the reasons why Wendy Richelle

1876
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: Robinson is the lead actress to the movie. That's one

1877
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,640
Speaker 1: of my best friends. And you know how far I

1878
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:27,479
Speaker 1: go back. Um, yeah, so I brought her to the table. Um. Uh.

1879
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: Angie Stone plays my sister on My My show in

1880
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 1: the cut, and she's doing the soundtrack for the movie

1881
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: as well well along with little Mama um. So you know,

1882
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 1: to be able to bring those types of of people

1883
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 1: to the project, it just enhances it. And you know,

1884
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 1: I feel amazing that I'm a part of that. Now

1885
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Speaker 1: we're talking about fruits of the heart. Correct, Okay, Now,

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Speaker 1: now another name that I gotta mentioned. It is my

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Speaker 1: boy Clifton Pole, not Clifton Pole, and y'all came, y'all,

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Speaker 1: y'all care the same amount of love in my heart

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Speaker 1: as far as longevity in the business, and Cliff is

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Speaker 1: a little option to you. He's opposed from you because

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Speaker 1: you're you. You cut your key, your teeth and and

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Speaker 1: and comedy, and now he's transition over to more lighthearted opportunities.

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Speaker 1: He cut his teeth in drama, right and he's transcentionstion

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Speaker 1: over there, you know what I'm saying. So it's really

1895
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: interesting watching you guys becoming like that's so much shifts

1896
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Speaker 1: in the night, but showing you how you have to

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Speaker 1: adjust your career in order the last in this business. Yes, yes, yeah, Clifton.

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Speaker 1: That's that's my boy right there. And what you see

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Speaker 1: is what you did that that's a true brother in

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Speaker 1: this industry who has paved the way for a lot

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Speaker 1: of brothers. But we worked together way back, um with

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Speaker 1: a movie that I did called um a Weekend with

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01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: the Family and uh we directed and written by Christope.

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Speaker 1: I saw that. I saw that. I saw that. I

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Speaker 1: saw you know, I saw that one the crazy fan,

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Speaker 1: the Asian mama, the Asian mama. I'm telling you, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, Dory, I don't miss you on TV. Brother.

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of yours. Brother. I saw that. That

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Speaker 1: was all my boy, because my boy from our immature

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01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 1: was in that movie to exactly exactly. But yes, Christo

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Speaker 1: directed and wrote that along with Marcus Houston. UM, and

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Speaker 1: we had a great time. But Clinton and Wendy brought

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Speaker 1: the fundy funny as always, um and I played the

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Speaker 1: opposite of them. Uh kind of businessman who you know

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Speaker 1: his son. Uh it wasn't good enough for my daughter.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna get married right right right. That was

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Speaker 1: a great, very funny. It's on Netflix if you want

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Speaker 1: to watch his own Netflix. It's a great watch doing

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Speaker 1: these times, especially if you want to get some some

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Speaker 1: good lighthearted spirit and some good fun and and and

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Speaker 1: that that that that that Cliff Paul, he's over the

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Speaker 1: top and there too. He's over the top. He's over

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Speaker 1: the top. Now that's the beautiful part about these relationships.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get back to the series that that that's

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Speaker 1: on Wednesdays an a pm Eastern. It's gonna bounce TV network.

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Speaker 1: It is called in the Cut And I gotta I'll

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Speaker 1: be remiss if I don't mention my boy Bentley Evans,

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Speaker 1: who created the show man. Uh you know when I

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Speaker 1: say White's special to me, brought me on to the

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Speaker 1: Jamie Foxx Show as a co executive producer. One of

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Speaker 1: the major moves in my life in this business because

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Speaker 1: you gotta have people help me. He's African American guy.

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Speaker 1: And and so let's talk you've been on the show

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Speaker 1: before talking about in the cut updated because you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Andrew Stone and Just Stone, who's crazy by the way,

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Speaker 1: in real life and on this TV show. You know,

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01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 1: if you don't know Andrew Stone and Stone crazy, Okay,

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Speaker 1: a good crazy. That's my girl, my sister on the show.

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Speaker 1: But let let me go back to to Bethley. Um,

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Speaker 1: that is another one of those relationships that that you know,

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Speaker 1: you you don't have those types of relationships in this business.

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Speaker 1: Uh that often they come far and few between. Bentley

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01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 1: is that dude who is groundbreaking for one and he

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01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: never forgets somebody and you are a part of that

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01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 1: that that family, that niche. But I worked with him

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Speaker 1: many many years ago on Martin and everybody that is

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Speaker 1: associated with our show has worked with him in the

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Speaker 1: past and some capacity or another. Um, but it's a

1949
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: beautiful niche. Khalida Khalida Smith plays my my wife on

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Speaker 1: the show. And many of you guys know Khalida from

1951
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Speaker 1: the Bernie Max Show. She played the wife on the

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Speaker 1: Bernie Max Show. UM. John Marshall Jones, he was the

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Speaker 1: father on A Smart Guy, UM, and he placed my

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Speaker 1: side in the barbershop. And uh. Rounding out the cast

1955
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Speaker 1: is Ken Lawson, who my comperend from the Partners though,

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Speaker 1: so we go that far back and that's my dude

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Speaker 1: right there. I have worked with him for almost twenty

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Speaker 1: five years and I have never seen this cat come

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Speaker 1: in mad, angry, upset or what have you. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: always a good vibe and or you know, just um

1961
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Speaker 1: and and if he does, we don't know it. Right,

1962
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Speaker 1: Let's put it out, you know, I said, guy delivers

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Speaker 1: the line to professional and uh, but I got I

1964
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: got I gotta bring up Lara Hayes now Miss Laura.

1965
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Speaker 1: She is hilarious on the show that that's my girl

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Speaker 1: right there, but she kind of ground to everybody and

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Speaker 1: just this is the stuff that you don't see from

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01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:50,600
Speaker 1: Laura on the show is some of the funniest is

1969
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Speaker 1: But anyway, Um, so it's a great cast. Also Dorian

1970
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Speaker 1: Brnand who plays uh Kalitau's sidekick in her beauty salon.

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Speaker 1: But it's a wonderful cast. Everybody has been in the

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Speaker 1: business for umpteen years and so we have to, um

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Speaker 1: have that foundation we've all worked together before. Because we

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Speaker 1: do thirteen episodes in eleven days, third episodes in eleven days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. It is a killer, is it? Long? Are

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Speaker 1: the days where we have well week to shoot an

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Speaker 1: appisode you know in front of yes, yes, yeah, in

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Speaker 1: front of the audience, live audience, not cranking this out.

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Speaker 1: I have anywhere from ten to uh seventeen scenes a day, um,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's long hours. But we already

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Speaker 1: have that foundation, um, and everybody's professional, so we're we're

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Speaker 1: able to you know, crank it out and get it done.

1983
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Speaker 1: Anything enables me to do a lot of other things. Um,

1984
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Speaker 1: you know for the rest of the year. We just

1985
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Speaker 1: finished our seventh season. Awesome, awesome. Then some of the

1986
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Speaker 1: guests got the girl Little Nell coming on the show

1987
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Speaker 1: this year. If anybody saw Dollarmite is my main it's

1988
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Speaker 1: my name. God, just Little Nell is one of those.

1989
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Speaker 1: The fact that you have Little Nail and Lord Hayes

1990
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Speaker 1: on the set at the same time, it had to

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Speaker 1: be Yeah, it's crazy, you have to separate them and

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Speaker 1: like a little kid, but just a comedy. I mean

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Speaker 1: they throughout the script basically with it, you know. And

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Speaker 1: that's why listen, let's just back up and tell people

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Speaker 1: a little bit of history about ben Levans. BN Levin

1996
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Speaker 1: was created The Mardern Show, so he's used to working

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Speaker 1: with a star who improvs. He created the Jamie Fox Show,

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Speaker 1: so he's used to working with another star who improv

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Speaker 1: so we and comedians, so he's used to working in

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Speaker 1: an environment of trusting these individuals. So when so when

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Speaker 1: Dorian says, you know, they all scripted, they throughout the script,

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing because he's allowing them to do

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Speaker 1: their thing and bring the best funny possible and trusting

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Speaker 1: the ability to pull it off. That's awesome. That's awesome,

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. He know, he knows all of us.

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Speaker 1: We have incredible writers who write for us as uh people, um,

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Speaker 1: not just actors, um you know, our characters or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But they know what Dorian strengths are and so they'll

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Speaker 1: incorporate that in the script. So what we try to

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Speaker 1: do is get what they put on paper first and

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Speaker 1: then gets this opportunity the Just and seven and you

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Speaker 1: know some of that stuff is the funniest stuff. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Now then you got to my girl Yo Yo from

2014
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Speaker 1: Kamrka and love and hip Hop Hollywood on the show. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, just just just this is this is really

2016
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Speaker 1: a wonderful story we're telling about, uh, you know, people

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Speaker 1: working together. Because throughout our whole interview we just talked

2018
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Speaker 1: about relationships. We talked about longevity. We're talking about transitional talent.

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Speaker 1: Uh not you know under standing there. Hey, I will

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Speaker 1: not be pigeonholed just to be an actor. I want

2021
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Speaker 1: to learn behind the scene, even though there's more work

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Speaker 1: involved than going behind the scenes. But in the end,

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Speaker 1: it's always good when you own the set at this

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Speaker 1: stage now knowing exactly what's going on, behind the set,

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Speaker 1: isn't it, Doring? Yeah, almost definitely. Uh. You know it's

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Speaker 1: so important to learn all parts of the craft. Um.

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Speaker 1: So you have the longevity, you know, I I did

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Speaker 1: the acting thing for many many years. I want to

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Speaker 1: write directed as well. Um so you know, um so

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Speaker 1: I can keep on staying in this business because you know,

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Speaker 1: being for real, they you know, there are far a

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Speaker 1: few um parts for African American that you know for certain.

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Speaker 1: Um you know, in your gendre, in your your age group,

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Speaker 1: your your ethnicity. Um that's why. That's why whenever I

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Speaker 1: see you, right, so, whenever I see your TV or

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Speaker 1: the film, Doring, I'm watching because I'm I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: all my Nielsen opportunities, all my flip views, anything that's

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Speaker 1: anything that's on line, if and I'm gonna post you

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Speaker 1: on my social media, you know, because that's how you

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Speaker 1: know that that you know the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that I love you as a person, I love I

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Speaker 1: respect you as an individual, and and and to bring

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Speaker 1: you on this show as part of my process, you know,

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Speaker 1: just just giving more opportunities to to just create make

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Speaker 1: you relevant, make you relevant. Your brand has has hass endless.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, if we went back and show what

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Speaker 1: you did on The Parkers, you'll be funny. If we

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Speaker 1: went back and show what you did on the Steve

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Speaker 1: har sitcom, you'll be funny. If you want to go

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Speaker 1: to the Netflix movies, we just will talk about He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be funny. If you want to go to the

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Speaker 1: Chairs to Day and go Rushan won't line when he

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Speaker 1: came on the screen gentry calling the gentry right right,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm not but you're not gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Come on my show and act like I'm gonna fake

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Speaker 1: this interview. I'm not gonna fake this interview. He's at

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Speaker 1: bous TV. The seventh season one is on Bows TV Network.

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Speaker 1: The seventh season in the Cut storm my man door.

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Speaker 1: Keep watching and I'll always be there. Tell us send

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