1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day. If Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: dot Com, the radio plus mobile last and on your radio. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pallett. Stocks are trading higher on the way 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: to the strongest to day rally in nearly three months 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: of Signs of a stronger economy spurred speculation that can 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: withstand higher interest rates. The SMP five hundred indecks up fourteen, 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: a gain of seven tenths of one percent. 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That's your Bloomberg ETF report. 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Cowdery. This is taking stock with pin Box 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: and Kathleen Mays on Bloomberg Radio. Economic growth in the 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: United States versus economic growth in the Eurozone. Eurozone GDP 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: growth surprised to the upside in the first quarter, up 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: six tenths of a percent. Go Ahead annualized that in 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: order to compare it to the United States where two 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: point four quarterly growth. Let's find out more from Jeff 54 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: klein Top. He is the chief Global investment strategist for 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Charles Schwab and Come Company. He joins us from Boston, 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: of course, home to Bloomberg twelve hundred and he can 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: be followed on Twitter at Jeffrey Klinop. Jeff, thanks very 58 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: much for being with us and start us off by 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: giving us some details about economic performance in Europe. You bet, 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: it's great to be with you. So here's the thing 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: about Europe. Not a whole lot was expected for Q one, 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: but we did see quite a rebound and lately we've 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: actually just gotten the flash p M I numbers um 64 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: and and it looks pretty good. In fact, Germany just 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: saw a nice rebound, and we also got the i 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: FO data, which is a big business survey over there 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: in Germany's had also showed a nice upticks three months 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: in a row. Now for the manufacturing economy in Germany 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: coming back, it's good to see. And so you've got 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: a broad based of support from consumer spending which is 71 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: strengthening manufacturing sector coming back. This is important. Remember just 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, gosh, less than a couple 73 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: of years ago, Europe was in recession. So it's still 74 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: earlier in a teconomic cycle, and we're seeing that vibrancy 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: in better economic growth. But Jeff, there isn't a lot 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: of this confined to Germany, in Europe's biggest economy, the 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: economy that is benefiting so much from being part of 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: the euro Area, very very export dependent. Much of the 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: rest of Europe is not doing anywhere near this. Well, 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: that's true. A lot of particularly southern Europe has has 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: had a much tougher time than northern Europe has. UM. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: But you know, we are see broadly speaking, uh, the 83 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: economy continues to move in the right direction. I think 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: you want to be careful when you're investing in Europe 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: to make sure you understand what you're getting exposure to. UM. 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: You know, we like the financials within Europe, and that's 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: naturally gonna orient you more towards the northern part of Europe, 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: countries like Germany and France as opposed to the south. 89 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: And and so you know, I think as you invest, 90 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: you think about healthcare also another area in Europe that's attractive. 91 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: That's uh, primarily northern Europe where you're going to find 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: those health care companies, and that's where we're sending to 93 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: focus on finding value. Hey, Jeff, is Spain by any 94 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: chance and exception. I mean there's some investment opportunity you 95 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: don't want to buy when it's already high. You know that. 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: That's an interesting point. So Spain, Spain has shown some 97 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: signs of turning the corner there have been labor reform 98 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: recently implemented there and some increasing momentum in that economy, 99 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: but the unemployment rate is still very high, so that 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: economy has got a long way to go and is 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: vulnerable to some risks. So while Spain looks attractive and 102 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: many Spanish stocks look attractive from a valuation perspective, they 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: do come with a lot of volatility, given the vulnerability 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: to geopolitical shock or other economic shocks. We know, our 105 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: colleague our stocks and are Dave Wilson. We were talking 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: about the Euro Area Minister's meeting and you know, trying 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: to help Grease stay on its feed and get through 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: its debt payments and all that, but basically point out 109 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: that the Greek stock market has been quite a performer. 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Yeah, well, you know, 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: some of that uh you know, rebound, a lot of 112 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: it just reflecting just the risk. I mean it's interesting 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: to see, you know, just make a parallel with with 114 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Brazil this year, right, I mean, you know, the economy 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: took off on prospects for for change and reform, and 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: ultimately it's a long road to recovery, both for Brazil 117 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: and for Greece. And investors may be disappointed. Certainly, Greece's 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: European country, but it's also an emerging market, and we're 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: a little bit more cautious on the emerging markets, and Gosh, 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: i'd include Greece and that given the very long road 121 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: to recovery there. Jeff the Nikkai in Japan down nearly 122 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: four percent so far this year. Invest in Japan or 123 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: wait for perhaps another recession or another attempt to forestall 124 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: a recession. Yeah, you know, Japan does not look very 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: attractive to us. Japan's got a number of issues, including 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the uh, you know, deteriorating manufacturing sector. Unlike what we 127 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: see going on in Europe where things are improving. Japan 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: very dependent on China. China big customer of Japanese products 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: in China seems to be slowing here once again as 130 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: they maybe moderate some of the stimulus that they injected 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: earlier this year, and that's going to be a drag 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: on Japan, as is that stronger yen, which seems to 133 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: be a real point of weakness for it. For that 134 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: economy so much more focused from a developed market standpoint 135 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: on Europe rather than Japan. Also, Jeff are was one 136 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons you're focusing on the rest of the 137 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: world is that you see fewer opportunities now in the 138 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: United States in the stock market. Well, you know, the 139 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: US has UH is a little bit longer in in 140 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: the twoth I mean, the economic cycle has gone on 141 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: quite a bit. There's less momentum UH and and I'd 142 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: say there's less room to grow profit margins in the US, 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: whereas in Europe, for example, profit marches are still relatively low, 144 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: a little bit below average. And so I think profit 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: growth has a lot more momentum to it as we 146 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: look to what's going on in Europe than than perhaps 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: the US does. What about the Latin America, Jeff, are 148 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: we waiting waiting and seeing what happens in Brazil? I mean, 149 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: is that is that just the sort of a political 150 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: issue at this point for investors, It seems to be 151 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Brazil very tied to to put all of Latin America 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: very tied to both politics and commodity prices and pim 153 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, noticing recently, I'm notwithstanding oils move today, raw 154 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: industrial commodity prices have started to roll over a little bit, 155 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and you know, talking about things we used to make 156 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: other things from rubber and comport at ten and lead. 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: They seem to be stabilizing after a pretty strong run 158 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: up in prior months. That's bad news for commodity exporting nations, 159 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: including those in Latin America. It's gonna be a tough 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: ride for them. Okay, you're looking at stocks as you 161 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: look globally. Are there any sovereign bond markets you like? 162 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: Are there any corporate bonds or corporate bond markets in Europe, Asia, 163 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: Latin America you like? We remained um focused on on 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: the US for fixed income, not finding a lot of 165 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: value overseas, still believing that dollar might be heading a 166 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit higher over the remainder of this year, say 167 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: flat to higher, and that's a drag on your returns 168 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: from international fixed income investing. So it isn't necessarily a 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: credit view as much as it is a view on currency. 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Fer. Everyone wants to know when do you think 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: they're going to raise interest rates? You know, we we've 172 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: been saying that the Fed is likely to raise rates 173 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: uh in the second half of this year. You know, 174 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: we had thought maybe September. Perhaps that's a little bit 175 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: earlier now, but the doors open to one, maybe even 176 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: two rate hikes later this year. And that's uh. That's 177 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: encouraging is that the FED finally feels the global economy 178 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: is strong enough to do that. But it's negative news 179 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: for the emerging markets. You know, earlier this year, the 180 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: emerging markets were leading, leaving things higher. In fact, through 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: the end of April they were up six or seven 182 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: percent on the year. They've pulled all the way back 183 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: here in the month of May as prospects for FED 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: rate hikes have picked up. And that's because emerging market 185 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: performance is so dollar dependent. The revival in the dollar 186 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: after a slide earlier this year has been toxic for 187 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: emerging market assets and really helped them underperformed. That maybe 188 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: a recipe for the second half. Look for volatility and 189 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: a lagging performance out of emerging markets. UH So, are you, then, 190 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: um in the camp that thinks, uh a fedrate height 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: could actually be the state destabilizing, especially overseas well. I 192 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: think it could be. It could raise concerns and and 193 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: and tighten financial conditions for some emerging market countries, but 194 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about a crisis. I we don't have 195 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: the same type of UH dollar denominated debt emerging markets 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: that we saw in nineteen nine, seven or nine that 197 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: led to the global financial crisis. Back then, gosh, Back then, 198 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: South Korea had eight percent of its debt denominated in dollars. 199 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: Now it's eight. So it's a problem, but not a crisis, 200 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: all right, Jeff clientop, thank you for joining us an 201 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: investment look around the world. Jeff is chief Global investment 202 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Strategist at Charles Swab. He's up in Boston, home of 203 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg twelve hundred. He likes European banks if it comes 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: to fixed income. He's keeping his money, his client's money 205 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: in the United States. I'm Kathleen Hayes along pim Fox. 206 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock on Bloomberg Radio.