WEBVTT - Episode 367 w/ De La Soul 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:16.120 He is drinks chants, motherfucking podcast. Make He's a legends 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.480 every queens rapper. He ain't agreed, that's your boy in 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.520 O r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer put 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:22.880 up as d J E f N. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.880 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.440 you know what I mean. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.840 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.560 source for drunk drink chams. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.959 Mother post for every day is New Year's Eve. That's 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:44.960 it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfuck motheruck what 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.640 it gonna be? Hoping to wins? Show me this year? 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.919 Boy in O r E. What up is DJ E 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.000 f N? And this is Militatemy Crazy World Happy. 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:53.240 Hour Actually drink Champs. 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.360 Drink Champs. I always forget to say that. Make some man. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:04.000 And when I tell you, these brothers here are icons, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:09.800 are beyond legends. You know, part of my mostly my childhood, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:17.320 consists of their music. They have stayed timeless, have stayed relevant, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.759 have had one of the most beautiful stories in hip hop. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.880 The fact that they got their stuff back, the fact 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.679 that that you know, they stayed up every day. I 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.760 never I never seen them cry. I've never seen them. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:36.560 They they've real legends, legends, they're real men of men. 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.200 I'm proud to call them my friend. I'm proud to 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:45.560 call them exactly who they are, impeccable individuals. These are 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.400 great men, and we all should give them their flowers, 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.720 not just drink champs. Everybody got to give them their flowers. 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.080 He's a part of one of the greatest groups of 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:03.040 all time. And I say that without stuttering in case 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.840 you don't know who the fun were talking about one only. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:12.840 It's crazy? 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:22.080 Aready like that? You started already you're buzzing drink drink. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.480 So guys, man, last time you guys we was here. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.359 We were speaking about, uh, the resurrection of getting back 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.399 you guys material? How did that? How did that play out? 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.080 It played out pretty successfully? 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:40.480 Wow? 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.200 What ended up happening? Tom Silverman ended up selling the 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.480 entire Tommy Boy catalog to a company called Reservoir Media. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:57.120 Faith our friend, sister person who's been our partner in 0:02:57.200 --> 0:02:59.560 hip hop and Wow looked out. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.919 For all of us, you know, Wow, Yes, big of faith. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:09.160 Yeah Faith, Yeah, and made the her and her partners 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.520 made the deal, right, Okay, So. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.200 I mean I don't I don't want you to prevail 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.840 anything that you guys can't reveal. But for people, for 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.440 people who's sitting in your situation right now, what can 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.000 you say about, Like how did y'all go about this? 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.120 What was this? I sit down, y'all have some coffee 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.880 and yeah, and because one thing about y'all, let me 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.960 just tell you something. And I know what every rapper 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.200 gets hated on, right, but one thing about y'all, I 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.840 don't see no one hating on y'all. 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.040 Don't. 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:41.800 I'm not saying y'all got hate this. I know y'all 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.240 hate this, but I don't see it. So it's like 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.840 to me, everybody wants to see y'all win. So how 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.480 did y'all go about getting back to rights? 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.320 If I could jump in, like. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.760 After we did drink Champs, Wow, that helps start like 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:04.520 a momentum as well of having these these discussions with 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.360 you know, the owners of Tommy Boy at the time. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.320 Every now and then they would come to the table 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:17.400 with something it was a little better but still needed 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.599 some work. Without question, I'll make sure the whole world 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.800 know this man right here was not backing down. 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.200 He was not with he was hitting me. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.000 After we did the episode, like yo, keep let's keep 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.719 putting the pressure. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.760 I remember you, yeah, so you know, I'm just being 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.119 if I can give you that bit of like inside stuff. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.080 There was moments where like Yo, I could be like Yo, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.160 this is good God bless the dead. Dave could be like, Yo, 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.320 this is I think we can kind of work with this. 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.760 Mix was like nah, I can't work with this. And 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.760 I love y'all and y'all my brothers, but Yo, man, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.120 we shouldn't settle, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.200 It should be no level of settling. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.040 And we kept pushing and the times with they go dark, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.320 we chilling, we doing what we do. They come back around, Hey, Yo, 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.680 we've made it like this, and make's just like nah, 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.000 you know what I'm saying. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:18.200 It's a unique situation. Knowing that it never happened to 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:22.680 no other group or artists like this, wow, where the 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.520 label would fold and the groups or artists keep going 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.480 a lot of times when the label fold, the artists 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.360 and group fold as well, you know, trying to figure 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.360 out situations we have been able to really sustain, We 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:40.159 had been able to carry on as far as putting 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.679 out music Kickstarter, especially with the Kickstarter. I'm so proud 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.520 of that because that got nominated for a Grammy at 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.200 that so wow, and Tommy Boy trying to make their comeback, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.719 their comeback was based on us still being a part 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:57.200 of that. So those the things I understood. And here 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.040 it is. It's like, yeah, we humble guys know my value. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.680 I know. I've been playing this game since high school, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.840 you know, and it's been on the job training and 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.640 behind it all. It's like, this was the moment in 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.560 time I had to really take on my leadership and 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.720 the crew. I mean, everybody has their warranted leadership back 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.640 moments and times and it just comes at divine moments 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.200 when God is calling. And it was in my spirit 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.919 like that, like, nah, we can't do this. And there 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.160 was times I was almost buckled. That almost buckled a 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.719 few times, you know. And I gotta be honest. You know, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.000 I got a good woman on my team, my wife, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.920 you know, with the help of her counsel as well. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.640 You know, it helped my decision. It helped our decision. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.280 Because for a long time, the music wasn't even available 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:45.320 right all. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.839 Over twenty years, for twenty years we out there performing 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.600 music that people can't even get. And then now we 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.560 also hit the stage rocking with the Gorillas for over 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.560 ten years and in front of a mega new audience, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.240 and they can't even get it, you. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.960 Know, only they then could. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.400 The only thing they could get was like physical releases 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.960 that were to take the Yeah, you know, they finally 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.800 like you know, there you go like whatever little thrift store, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.640 vinyl store, and we like spotsort necessarily benefiting from it. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:17.960 But it's keeping the time. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.000 We even released it for nothing. We released it for 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:25.480 free like twenty ten around the thirtieth and thirtieth anniversary, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:31.280 we connected with some website that was in in Russia 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.920 somewhere and took it from them and gave it to 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:38.960 the audience for free because it's just one available, you know. Wow. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:42.440 So just being a true artist, you know, wanting the 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.560 people to just have your music. That was what it 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.360 was about in that moment in time. Like you know, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.480 when Warner Brothers had it, it was like so many 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.280 infractions around it, which the samples was the biggest issue. 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.480 They didn't think it was worth putting it out. So 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.400 under the Warner Brothers system, it was all stuck. But yeah, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:06.800 when when he made the sale to the Reservoir, you know, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.480 magic happened. You know, they made it work. They made it, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.600 they made it comfortable for us to really get back to. 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:21.640 Work because I can remember like hearing when y'all got 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:24.560 your rights back, how hip hop just supported y'all. And 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.440 I believe it's a rumor like every one of your 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:30.720 albums went sold a million or something like that, Like 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.079 I think it went straight to number one. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:42.320 It's like, yeah, yeah, phenomenal, Yes it has. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.760 I mean like there's points where there's lists, like a 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:50.800 catalog list, and it can be like Fleetwood Mac number one, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:56.240 day Soul number two, Thriller number three, like three rising 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.480 up like it's it's been like we're charting like we've 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.320 never tried to before, Like releases are now being these 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.120 re releases, all this charting. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.880 Really high, and this is a blessing. You know, Sipop 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.800 really really loves you guys. We really we we the 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:17.280 people deserve. We're gonna get into I wish that shirt, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.400 say what is that you know we did? We did 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.600 the pharral during last week. Last week something in the water. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.760 I didn't want to get my sneakers messed up. This year, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.920 every time I go to that goddamn concepts don't come 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.760 back the same, I kid, you not something in the dirt, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.920 something the goddamn beach, that bigger. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:43.200 Man Virginia Beach. Real quick with the re release. Just 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.680 for anybody that's wondering and unders trying to understand the 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.320 technicality of the business side, all those issues with the 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.520 samples from before, how does that get resolved when it 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:53.160 gets rereleased? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:53.800 Great question. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.400 Well, we we spent once we got everything in order 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.240 with reservoir, we spent pretty much almost a year here, 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:03.320 just a year and a half, Yeah, taking care of 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.400 whatever need to be because you yeah. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.760 So you now have to administer and make sure everything 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:11.280 I think. Wow. So it was. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.320 But even the beauty in that was coming across these 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:20.680 different publishers and artists, you know, they were really helpful, man, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:22.320 They really wanted. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.640 We had a lot of you know, from even the 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.200 people who are owned the copyrights and samples. It was, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.000 like I said, it was a real unique situation based 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:35.360 off what we exposed to the world by fighting for 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.040 our rights. You know. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:37.640 That's dope. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:44.040 Yeah, honestly, y'all, y'all helped. That's right. Jay helped Quest 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:45.199 Love and Black thought. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.440 When you say Jay talking about j j. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:52.360 Z, he decided to not called out b Elliott Wilson 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.360 called up and was like, Yo, what y'all want to do? 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.240 Y'all want to stream it? Not streaming? 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:57.720 It? 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.080 Was like not streaming, don't stream it. He decided to 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.680 not stream it, and that set the tone for Spotify 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.760 not to do it, Apple not to do it because 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.200 Title didn't do it. You know, and you know how 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.480 the muscles behind the scene can chuck you out. You 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.240 know what I'm saying now, they helped us out. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.880 That's that's that's very dope that you just said that, 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.120 because I totally forgot that. I did go over my head, 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:28.040 but I just remember, that's my first time of me 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.560 being proud of hip hop. It's like that was like, 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.760 you know, we usually have discrepancies against each other, but 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.559 that's the first time I seen hip hop come all 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.679 together and was like, nah, they're doing day lot wrong 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:43.199 and everyone. I may have been in the room with. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.760 Jay about three times in my whole career, you know 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:50.320 what I'm saying, And for that to be, I know, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.920 we all mean something to each other, whether we. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.520 Rival maternity, you know what I'm saying, we are you know, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.000 it's definitely I'm sorry to cut you, but it's definitely blessed. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.360 Even the fast forward up to like this previous Grammy 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:06.200 Award and the fiftieth celebration and like running into different 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.800 people there, you know, seeing Rick Ross clapping five and 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.440 I'm about to let go and he grabs me in. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.920 It's like, yo, man, I'm proud that y'all got y'all 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.760 music back and were waiting, like it was just great 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:21.320 to see people just really coming together to see what 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.400 you know, needed to be done and the fact that 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.440 we got everything back and they were just just as proud, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.040 you know, like you said, like a fraternity all proud together. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.839 To see the coach showed a real community in here, 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:34.760 like it is a community that I forgot. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.600 There was a community I forgot because we always at 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.120 each other. And that was the first time, like you know, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.640 seeing people fighting with you guys. I felt like we 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.680 was fighting with you guys. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:50.360 you know, you know, like how they see people marching 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:51.839 and it's like I felt I feel like I was 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.080 from outside marching with y'all because and I got the 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.800 same story. That's what's crazy about I got it was 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.560 the same fight. Just say exact right. So it's like 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.680 this is something, this is under that. Like I'm proud 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:07.800 of hip hop. I'm proud of hip hop for making 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:09.600 this happen. I'm proud of you guys for sticking to 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:11.840 your guns. I'm proud of it because now I know 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.200 the stick to my gun. You know what I'm saying, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.880 Because there's been times I wanted to give up, Like 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.160 you know what I mean, I think about it. You know, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.360 after thirty years, they're supposed to give you back your rights. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.400 Anyway I sit is twenty five, so I'm like five 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.440 years away. But I would love to make this deal. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.600 But it's crazy to me. Seeing y'all, it gives me 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.480 hope because when you think about it, this is our music. 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.400 Why shouldn't we own it? Like, why shouldn't we. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.280 Own it at least be partners in it? Based on 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.280 the criteria of what we trying to look for in 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:47.040 certain deals. You know, some people aren't able to fund themselves, 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.200 you know, so you're all looking for some type of 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.080 funding and you may have to give something up to 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.920 gain something, you know, But as time goes along, I 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.959 always looked at it like a job when you first 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.160 come in for a job. Don't expect to be manager 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:05.200 first day. But if you do tremendously at the job, 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.520 you do well, you look to get a raise at 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.480 some point. You know a lot of us haven't gotten that. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.240 You know a lot of us haven't got that raise 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.840 or them benefits. And even with for the deals that 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.559 the label's still cut, you know they need to offer 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.120 more benefits, right, medical benefits something like that too. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.200 Yeah, I mean. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.080 Something such as that, because it's worked for hire, no 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.520 different than any other employment. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.400 So what's up? 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.760 Drink Champs Army Ready for a staggering statistic. Nearly seventy 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.040 seven percent of fathers settle for their lady's uncomfortable baby 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.880 bag when they're outside with their kids. That's according to 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.400 your very own eye, So just look around. Settling is 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.440 not where it's at. Dad's deserved better. 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I looked it up, and I 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:11.920 was like. 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.080 Crazy because I thought about it when even when I 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.680 thought about it, and I never signed over digital rights. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.800 I never signed over with because there was nothing called 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.240 digital back then. I never signed up with rings homes. 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.560 There was nothing called out before night, so they coverned 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.400 it with that for everybody listening right now, they covered 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.440 it with AI too, so you understand what you're signing 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.880 with this perpetuity in the entire universe. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.280 It's wild. Yes, it's not. 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.120 It is wild, especially for the artists who are being 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.360 able to capitalize off this you know, technical world of 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.080 the Internet and being able to I mean, if we 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.440 had that back then we probably be able to cut 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.040 better deal und The Internet has gave these artists a 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.679 bargaining power. You out there building your own energy up, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.359 and then they come in and the scoop off your 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.800 energy and maybe add the machine to take it elsewhere. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:17.840 Yeah it's fine, but you done made million plus off 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.080 of doing your own independent thing. That deal structure should 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.520 be a little bit more in your favor. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.480 It's great to see a lot of young kids very 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.000 familiar with the data. You know, they can show them like, look, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.000 it's undeniable. I can see right here what I'm doing 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.320 in this understand. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.400 Yeahs analytics and it's. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.439 Locking hardware, AI off algorithms and all of that. We 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.040 had to go visit the DJ. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.399 I remember physically, if I didn't go to London, the 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.119 record wouldn't go to London like I physically had to 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:49.840 go to London. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.560 I had to go to everybody, every city you had 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.520 to get so we met you. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.240 That's crazy. Nowadays you can repress one button. That's should 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.480 be everywhere. I remember literally, you know, our e came 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.639 out hit number one, and and every town that I 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.520 had to go, I had to go to every single town. 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.120 They had to look at the what what's what's algorithms 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.320 back then and they had to say, Okay, you're doing 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.480 you're not doing You're not doing good in Philly, So 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.600 they go to Philly, like physically do that. As of 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.240 right now, you could just you could stream. You don't 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.280 even have to leave your house. The pandemic had me 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.000 pissed off. I said, these niggas is dropping albums and 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.080 staying in the house. They was like this, I'm like, 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:30.680 what the fuck? 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:31.159 Come on? 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.440 Didn't work? We were doing the same quarantine. I hated quarantine. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.120 I hated it if in every moment of quarantine, I 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:46.360 hated it. Remember so some like you got to give 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.480 you a five. I want you to smell my cologne. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.119 You know I'm saying I want you to feel me. 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.959 I want you to smell my budd You ain't give 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.919 them a blood? Yeah, come on kind of blood. You're 0:18:54.960 --> 0:19:03.680 making us look clazy? Okay, yeah, okay, don't drop. Yeah, 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.040 I'm a personal guy man. Yeah, I owe you some 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.600 day shirt. So let me ask you about that. How 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:16.879 about during the time you got did you use in 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.360 control of your own merch because I always. 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.840 Always been my own merchant. But you have seen mostly 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:23.639 bootlegs stuff. 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:31.440 Really yeah? Yeah's got a Bootleggs shirt. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.240 But I can't I can't hate you, know what I'm saying? 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:55.560 Better than because it was like the first night collab, right, 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:57.280 you collab with like earlier? 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:57.880 Yeah? 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.920 Yeah, the dunk the day? 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:03.480 How was that? How was that ship? 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.360 We happened to be at the magic. 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.960 That was as R something in San Diego that usually 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.440 happens like this is uh yeah, but I think it's 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:13.119 called as R. 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.480 We we was in We was doing somewhere l R G. 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.600 And yeah, just walking through the arena where they had 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.440 all the boots shut up, ran into people over there. Nike, 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:28.760 his brother Robbie Jeffers, who was working with them, and 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.840 I think he's working between Stucie and Nike and he 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.919 we had a show out there like there's some street 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.119 fair they usually do. We had them come through and 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.920 then he just happened to just mention it, like, yo, 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:39.400 would you be. 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.159 Down to do a dunk? It was like of course, 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.560 and he made the call and it just it just 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.000 fell into place, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:50.360 So yeah, yeah, that's. 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:50.399 Like a year from that meeting. 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.840 Yeah yeah, that was really cool. 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.400 You got your own fucking Nike. Yeah. Man, guys, stop 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:01.719 being so humble. There's not a lot of people who 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:02.240 can say that. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:03.000 Really. 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:08.040 No though, flowers, man, let's listen. Our show is about 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.880 giving people flowers, so we need to give you your flowers. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:16.480 To your face. Make the face man, man that give flowers. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.639 And mister is always later, he's always like he's always 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:20.920 Dominican friend. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:27.720 It's always like, okay, yo, what do you do? 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:37.439 Holy the embarrassing? We got a bootleg day, so shirt 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.520 on if you lay on the flowers. 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.200 Yeah, man, man, I brought you all. 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.920 So it's beautiful, true boy, rest in peace day man. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.520 You know for you to present your family and you 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.920 can if you can, you know, we definitely will. Yet beautiful, 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:59.920 Let's make some noise the flowers, dog, because it's like 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:01.760 in the Grammy, they got quick Time slim ready. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.560 Yes man, that's another milestone. 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:06.720 Yeah man, yes man. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.560 Let me just tell y'all, man, we are huge fans 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.719 the family to us and we are so happy for 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.800 what y'all y'all accomplished. And as y'all keep going. 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.760 This is better than the Grammy. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.919 Man, we're using that, we're taking that. 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:31.440 This is hip hop man into the heart. That's all 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.280 before we that s hip hop honors vah one. These 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:36.000 two right here. 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:40.840 And you got you guys had an album on Massive 0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:41.800 Pill correct what. 0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:43.880 It was supposed to be. 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.879 It's still in play. We just gotta get it, you know. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:48.000 We gotta get it done. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.240 You gotta get it done. Yeah yeah, okay. 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:53.400 And some we we hope to get done. I mean 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.360 there was a there weren't a lot of rhymes that 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.200 Dave completed because it was a it was a Pete 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:00.000 rock and premiere. 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:04.000 Yeah ooh joint. Wow, that's right. Yeah, the premium Soul 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:04.520 on the rock. 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.840 So we got some stuff done, not enough, you know, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.320 and hopefully we can just pull it all together. 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.120 So there will be another daylight out. 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.840 I mean, without question, it's going to daylight stuff. 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:19.480 Well I'm in a miss of I'm in the process 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:23.440 right now working on the trilogy of Artificial Intelligence, the 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:24.359 third installment. 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.960 Are we breaking news right now? I feel like we're breaking. 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.280 News right now. The third installment is being worked on 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.160 as we speak, Like, yeah, for real, like this what's 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:34.840 going down? I mean, it was supposed to be a 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.200 DJ related record anyway, you know what I'm saying. So 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.480 I'm getting it done. Yeah, and then everybody got one 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.640 and two. Yeah, you know what I'm saying out there. 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:50.879 Yeah, we were definitely staying with work music coming out, lyrics, 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:55.160 daylight related stuff. We were here, like me and Mace 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.720 immediately kind of locked in and was just like, yop man, 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.359 we gotta we gotta keep this going, like you know, 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.199 as difficult as it. Yeah, Like I hit him with 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:10.720 the straight like rain more analogy from B Street. I 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.840 was like, yo, man, we gotta turn this nigga's death 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.800 into a celebration. And he really felt that, you know 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.960 what I'm saying, And that's how we really feel, you know, like. 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:22.200 Speaking of that, sorry to cut you off, I want 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:23.919 you to get back to what you were saying. But 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.280 I've seen that with Dave Chappelle when I felt like 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.080 y'all counted it down, was like twelve and counted down 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.359 for the thing to come. Like I literally, I literally 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:37.840 tears came to our mom. And I've seen how Dave Chappelle 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.040 was so happy for you. That's that's that's that's the 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.760 thing about you. Like I said I said it earlier, 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.760 I don't see you hate this like I only see 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:51.320 y'all supporters. And to me, to me, that's some honorable shit, 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.520 Like you know what I'm saying, to see everybody from 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.119 hip hop just come out and celebrate you guys, like 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:57.280 that's a beautiful thing. 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:57.520 Man. 0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.600 You guys are really eye cars. You guys are really 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.040 letting Yo to speak on that. 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.520 And I saw you were saying, like, Yo, that was 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:07.119 a joint you wish you was at, and I bugged out. 0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:11.600 I told me, so, I was like, Yo, before Dave's death, dog, Yo, 0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.160 you was on my list, Like I was like, Yo, 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.280 I'm going to tell your fan, I'm going to tell 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:20.200 I know y'all here. But because this this this party 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.960 was in play Jump. We were even talking about drink 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:29.119 cham Yeah, so Yo, you were on my list to 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.080 come through. But when everything happened with Dave, it was 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.760 kind of like people in play that this was like, Yo, 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.119 we're going to reach out to these people. 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:37.240 It was like kind of cool. 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.199 And so when I was bugging when I saw you 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:43.080 said like Yo, this and this, I said. 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.720 You ain't never needed no invitation, you. 0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:53.520 Know, dude, when I see hip hop celebrates y'all. 0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:58.240 Like I said, you had a tumultuous moment at one time. 0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:01.960 But in that moment, you need to know I. 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.080 Showed up for you. 0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:11.880 About the wild Ship is that I almost. 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.639 Said it last time we was in. 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:16.000 I really want to. 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.480 Talk me out, thug me out. 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:32.560 It was kind of it was parade. I don't remember himself, 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:33.880 Porto Rican Parade. 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.440 I never experienced Puerto Rican Day parade. I don't even 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.639 know what to expect, you know what I'm saying. And 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:45.560 Tommy Boy called me to come d J for CNN, 0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.520 you know. And and I was also able to have 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:54.600 my upcoming rappers rock after I did what I needed 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.680 to do for them, you know. But we got out there. 0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:01.000 I spoke to Norwi two days before for it, trying 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.720 to prep for it. He's like, Nah, don't worry about. 0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:05.280 That, just play the record. 0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:12.040 We're seeing it. 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:13.639 You know what I'm saying, we don't about all that, 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:13.920 you know. 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.600 I like, yo, sure you know what I mean. I'm 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.879 the one who liked to prepare, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.919 So I never experienced Puerto Rican Day parade, you know. 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.560 And I'm looking at it from when I see it 0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.200 on TV. I see the floats and the highs rocking 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.240 and ship we get out there and tell me, boy 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.359 got us on like a pickup truck. You know what 0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.320 I'm saying. It was all food gazy to begin with. 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.400 It was like I was like, oh ship, I'll get 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.720 out there like, oh ship, already off my. 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:59.560 Experience doing things. I'm going outside. There's hot mother. 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.520 So I'm already thinking about equipment fucking up and everything. 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:09.080 And immediately I play a fucking seeing in record and 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.960 it starts noting on the. 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:18.520 I was getting mad. I'm trying to explain. 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.760 It, like yo. Every time I put the needle on 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.480 the record, the record is woping up, Like I didn't 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.960 expect none of this to be like this period, Like 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:33.880 I'm literally on a pickup truck while other floats is ship. 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:36.440 We got a pickup truck? 0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.400 When motherfucker's just holding. 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.960 Size, say's right, I'm ready. 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.600 We look like some half fast bad boys ship. And 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:51.880 he's right, you know, and we all here repper, and 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.160 I see dudes getting frustrated with me because the music. 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.360 This is my perception of it. The music ain't popping 0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.440 and riding for a minute and every time. And mind you, 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.360 I done had mad copies of this stuff in my 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:10.120 crate along with other ship right, my young dudes. They 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.640 stuff was on a hard drive, instant replay. 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.840 So ye, we were professional at all, yees, So it 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:23.440 wasn't even about the got. 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.040 The whole I called you and I didn't know nothing. 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.479 I didn't know whole ship funning. I like with her, 0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:33.120 solet's stop twenty years talking with me. 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.280 But back then, I'm not gonna lie to you. I 0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:40.080 was young and I just he was treating me how them. 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:48.560 Young niggas treat him. He was all that ship. Yeah, 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.160 and all we did was our little performances ship, but 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.640 it was knocking. I thought it was knocking out. See 0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.600 niggas frustrated. His man tried to grab a mic for 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.680 my man grab he's gonna tested back the show and 0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.560 sip rocking and still riving, and ship. 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:12.480 I went on like beef. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:14.960 I knew how the knife. 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:16.000 I knew. 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:18.800 The one who was. 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:24.040 Driving the n he had the knife. It was crazy. 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.320 This is crazy because he was grabbing. The dude that 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.400 he was grabbing the mic from was super timid too, 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.800 so I'm like, no, you're not going to be timid 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:37.160 with me. And then Nordy came over, like I knew 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.040 he had to be the ambassador. He had all these 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.720 niggas with him, and it was like if he's sayings, go, 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:48.200 it's got all these yeah, yeah, got these niggas. And 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.880 I did play like at the time, him and Bumpy 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:56.600 wasn't getting along either, so I did play an intro things. 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.640 Bumpy did a song with me called you Don't want 0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:00.640 to Bust That Ship, and he he's on a song, 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.120 so I played an a cappella version of that before 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:04.240 we got into our thing. 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:06.880 You're right, you never be good. 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:13.760 And then he came memory, he came over, he came out, 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:21.280 he came over. He's like. 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:26.200 At the time, I definitely did. We got yes, yeah, 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.120 I'm looking the rock, got my wife with me. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.680 I'm like, and it's just like five of us and 0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:31.200 my wife. 0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:35.160 You know, definitely did like time, I definitely did. 0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:42.920 Man if I did anything to offend you, I said, 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.240 but I have to call you Jesus. And I had 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.120 no idea that it was gonna be hot as fucking 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:52.240 Dickins was gonna melt. 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.160 You know what I'm saying. Apology? 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.760 He goes, yeah, all right. 0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:03.440 You. 0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:06.160 Don't cut it out. 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.640 Honestly I was. 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.080 I was hurt for about three hours. But then after 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.040 that I was like, he good man, he good for that, 0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.880 because ship that I didn't did you know what I'm saying, 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.000 I'm getting the ship that I don't. 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.800 And I was like, all right, this nigga's definitely terrorized 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:25.360 some sound man. 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:27.800 Yeah, I've had my fashion. 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:31.160 Did y'all listen to new artists got into this? 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:31.520 Yeah? 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.880 Who oh man. 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:36.440 It's really hard to say. 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.560 Man, it's it's just like more songs than I could 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:40.160 say album. 0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.320 Yeah, okay, like I like to lose the UZI Bird. 0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.760 I like him a lot. At you got a beat 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.240 that I take works for him? I don't know. I 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.720 keep talk about I messed with him. I mean, I 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.640 got I got kids that's in their twenties and thirties, 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.520 So we talked music all the time. My son raps. 0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.800 You know what I'm saying, Wow. Yeah pretty good, you 0:32:59.880 --> 0:33:04.160 know Wow. And and I said, d J, I just 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.960 DEJ have a producer. I look to stay connected and 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.440 I'm always trying to learn. I stay a students of 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:09.840 this ship. 0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:10.320 Wow. 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.520 And they got to keep learning. It can go anywhere. 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:14.320 Been gave up on this new generation. 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.640 Man, Man, it's out there. 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.840 You've never seen have been playing nothing new. 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.480 But it's out there, you know what I'm saying. Like 0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.760 you said, like it could be oozy, it could be. 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:33.320 Ben gave up Man Curry from Miami for one carry. 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:43.360 He's older than you is dope PVT. Okay. 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:49.760 The Russell Russell's Dopel Russell said, you know the Russell Yeah, 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:57.480 from the Bay the Rush. Yeah, a lot of there's 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:58.960 a lot of kids out here that doing that. 0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.280 Yeah. We coders fifty years old, y'all fifty You know 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:06.040 what I'm saying. I remember when we came. The generation 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.560 before us wasn't fucking with us. You know what I'm saying. 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.279 I think what ended up happening, and what ended up 0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.480 happening is cats become a force to be wrecking with. 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.160 You may not like it, but it's in your conversation. 0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.360 You know, you gotta at least figure out what it is. 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.560 It's got these kids rocking to it, you know what 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.040 I mean. And I learned from George Clinton. Anything that 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.600 makes the parents upset, it's rocking. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.480 It's so he's ecrasically said that on the show. Yeah 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.919 a lot too. He's still here smoked a lot, oh man, yeah, 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.120 said the more they hated on, he's more interested, more interested. 0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.040 Drake too. I did not think he's going to drake, but. 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.840 Mind you, it was not to cut you, but like 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.960 me and him was just we did Coachella with gorillas. 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:48.680 We did. He was showing me all the clips. He's 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.080 like yo. It was like. 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.040 The second weekend we hung out with our sons, you know, 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.120 with my youngest son. He was two of his sons, 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.359 and it was just dope, you know, my son taking 0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:02.279 me to different stages like yop, yeah, what these kids 0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:02.879 I think they. 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.920 Call suicide Kings or something like that. 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.120 So it was just dope to see because I studied 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.000 that the crowds reaction what they're doing, because we always 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.560 students of looking out people. 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:15.719 Rocket stage, stage presence, all. 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.160 Of the It's a lot, man, it means a lot, 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.160 you know. So I'm into all that and. 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:19.600 I think it. 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:22.799 Sorry, but I think also the way that we used 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:26.840 to discover music is different. So for us in our generation, 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.800 like we want to like physically like be it somewhere, 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.640 and we saw these mcs coming up in the club 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.640 at a battle or DJ played in the club when 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.360 it was all new. Now, streaming for me is harder 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.839 to get into newer artists because it's so much. 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.560 It's so much. It's definitely a lot, you know. I mean, 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.360 I agree with you, but I sometimes go down a 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.319 rabbit hole with it. Like you know, you into one 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:50.359 artist and they'll say, Yo, if you like this artist, 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.080 here's a similar artist, and you just kind of just 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:52.920 keep going with it. 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:58.239 Sometimes I know where you're at with that. That's why 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.040 people to put me on the ship. Yeah, I'd rather 0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.920 get recommended in that aspect because it is a rabbit hole. 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.480 You'll go deep down and you'll get caught up in 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.880 your own personal feelings of what you like as opposed 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.600 of balancing it out for at least meet for a djy, 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:15.319 I try to balance it out. 0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.880 If it does not, he's exactly I mean, like he 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:21.839 has the name one artists you noticed that I did. 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:22.800 Does it carry? 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:23.200 Yeah? 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:24.360 L Russell. 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:25.600 I mean, I don't even know what I'm saying. His 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:30.520 name is Russell and what what what's the coach contract? 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:37.360 Doesn't believe you at all. People support them as as 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.040 much as I can't socially. 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.400 Social media, but even down with you know, anyone alchemist 0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.680 is from producing, you know June, Larry June is dope, 0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:49.800 Autumn cats man, Yeah there you go. 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.319 Symbols yeah man, that. 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.480 And alchemists and all of them are messing with crazy. 0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.000 Yeah ship that Larry June, now join with him and 0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.680 Dick Sean that random facts. 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:06.919 I called them the other days with my kids. 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:13.080 People don't talk about enough. It's yo off, you know. 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.200 Yeah, so just the level of music, nativity, you could 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.120 strip individuality, you know what I'm saying. 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.440 He got bars, he could spit, you know, that's we 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.759 live in that cipher. I could put them in a 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.640 cipher with some savages and he'll live. 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:29.359 Yeah real. 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.560 But you know what's dope about now for artists like 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.120 that is that they don't need the gatekeepers. 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:35.799 They don't to. 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.080 Find their audience. We're all talking about different artists. Everybody's like, 0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.280 who what what? And each of these artis were mentioning 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:45.120 have millions of followers do their shows festivals. They don't 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.239 need us to even know who they are because they 0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.319 found their audience. And that's what's dope about it. It's 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:50.799 really dope and funny enough. 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.920 As we was talking about a little bit earlier, it 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.640 was artists like that who championed on behalf of us 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:59.279 because like they were saying, like, yoday Ala deserve this ship, 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.719 like they could walk that ship for us because they 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.160 felt like, yo, I don't got no one over us. 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.160 You're like, honestly, I got no problem saying it. 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.399 It was like this one lawyer on their side who 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.759 was like talking to our lawyer and was like, yo, man, 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:17.120 I got I got clients that don't want to fuck 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.279 with me because they know that I'm trying to not 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.440 fuck with day long. You know what I'm saying, like 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.040 trying to like fuck they ship up on behalf of 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.800 telling you, boy, like that's how much these young artists 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.560 had our backs we never met, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:37.839 That that's beautiful man, Thomas Lie, Let's go. You want 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.280 to explay in the game, you guys get two choices. 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.760 We picked one. We don't drink if you pick both 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:47.200 are neither. We're drinking all of us a drink. Okay, 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.880 hold on, I said time, you get two choices. You 0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:56.439 get two choices. A person plays it like a person 0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.319 places choices. Let me explain two choices. If you if 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.359 you pick one the non politically correct answer, you pick 0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.600 one of the two nobody drinks. If you say both 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.759 or neither, which would be the politically correct answer. If 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.080 you don't want to hurt feelings or you really mean both, 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.560 you know, yeah, then we then were drinking. 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.799 Before we say that a birthday that just passed, Happy 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:34.000 birthday to our brother. Least you give it is happy birthday, broom. 0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:39.040 The second guy, huh and we got you, got you? 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:47.680 We got your kicking ice cream too? Sorry said yeah, yeah, 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:51.200 I got you ready. I ain't get it though. Uh 0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:03.080 you can start to like, Okay, I'm gonna go to 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.480 the second one. You go to the first one. You 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.759 saw this face because I want to go. 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.560 I want to got Holy Ship. 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:17.640 Quest or Jungle Brothers. Damn y'all answer that way too fast. 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:18.920 Let me get my shot ready. 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.799 Okay, okay, you go to the first one. 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:26.600 Black daughter styles p wow mm hmmm. 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:29.719 Mm hmm. 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.239 You got your right there, right there. So I love 0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:39.319 that's right. That's more like. 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:43.200 You're like, God, damn, I can't. 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:51.399 Indie or major. This is a big debate here. It's 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.960 a big debate here. Me and him always disagree. 0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:02.520 How you had the experience of both, you know, and 0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:05.000 and I don't give. 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:07.960 Here. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.200 I can see indis doing business with majors. 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.600 You know this, This is what I say too. 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.960 That's I say, being independence, you could take advantage of 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:20.759 the major. 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.919 Yo, man. That's how it's been since the beginning. Tom 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:29.080 Siverman did it like that like that? You know, Racous 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:32.160 Rocks did it like that. You know, it's been like 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:35.840 that since the beginning of the time, right, So I 0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.080 don't see that ever being an issue. It's just all 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.960 about how to deal with the structure, period. 0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.399 So that sounds like a shot. 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:47.760 That's both. 0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:54.920 Listen here, yeah, m. 0:41:56.480 --> 0:42:03.479 I look, thank you, thank you. Sip Okay. He started 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:07.839 drinking till he was like forty. He started drinking till 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:08.400 he was forty. 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.399 He started the chance I smoked weed for the first time. 0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:16.600 Well I did it that. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:17.400 I took ahead. 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.840 That was some sucker ship what. 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.480 He and I did it without him? He said, it 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:32.440 was like we made up without you. Yeah, be mad, Yes, 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:35.000 I be mad too. 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:38.400 If he smokes some weed with somebody else other than me, 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:39.520 you slightly. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:43.719 Get a past because it was with Chappelle, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.839 you know, even Chappelle know better. 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:50.520 Yeah, Chappelle and Prince gets a pass. If you smoke 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.240 with Prince, I won't be mad, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah. 0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:54.840 And he snacks me from Chaps. 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:59.200 Yeah, no, it was. 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:03.000 It was kind of after the Webster Hall joint. Chappelle 0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.879 went to do something some comedy ship. I fucked with him, 0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.160 and then afterwards he did like this little toast to 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:09.719 Dave and he was just like, you know, we have 0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:14.600 already did like like ten shots. Yeah, And so he 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.680 was just by himself and I was standing there and 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.160 he was just in his own mind. He was like 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:19.719 for a Dave and he took a puff and I 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.040 snatched it and I said the same thing, I'm sorry, 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.440 that was my alarm and yeah. So everyone saw me 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.840 do it and bugged out immediate. It was like smiles, 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.960 my my romance, like puff. My wife was like there like, no, 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.120 I can't tell niggas because I had already. 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.120 Did like eight shots. 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:41.839 I don't. 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.239 I really don't know, honest, I don't know. 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.319 Well, yeah, you want to go? I got this one? 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:56.480 Q tip or for real Q tip tun. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:04.200 Alright, black Star, that Press Blacks, Black Star, Jesus Tupac 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.880 or d m X, Nigga, good. 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.480 Pretmore Pete Rock. 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:19.840 I gotta take a shot, nigga. 0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.400 Okay, this is a good one. You got it? You 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:33.400 want me? You'll think you should say, Jada Kisser, Nos. 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.759 I gotta take a shot. I gotta take a shot. 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.000 Okay, did that go for both of y'all? 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:41.560 I gotta take a shot. 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:45.239 Yeah, I'm taking you got someone for that one. 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.360 Got some MC brain going on, right, I'm a big. 0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:52.040 He's definitely breaking down some lyrics, break some shipp down 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:53.759 over digging it alright. 0:44:53.920 --> 0:45:02.680 Okay, okay, bars, let it go, let it go. Wow, 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:07.680 that's a good one. Beach Street or Cruss Groove Street. 0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.000 They and cahoots though when they together, that's like that's 0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.840 that Yeah, easy. 0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:23.080 Ear Nipsey easy easy yeah, yehead big E or big 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.240 L big big piece of both big. 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:41.600 Sorry okay, eighties or nineties hip hop nineties nineties mm 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:47.680 hmmm nineties niddy nineties. Yeah, I'm going nineties to nineties 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:53.200 hip hop Red Alert or Ca Capri, Ca Capri, Oh surprise, 0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.960 hm hmm it is I was for DJ. It's tough. 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.919 Yeah, that's tough one based on what they're both really 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:03.400 great at. 0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:06.960 You know, it doesn't make one not great. But you're 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.640 gonna make me choose Capri. 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:16.279 Yeah, I have to choose Capri overall worldwide. What he's 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:22.200 done in the arenas, he's actually Capri is Actually that's 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.520 been the first DJ to make the DJ actually look 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:26.240 like an artist. 0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:29.799 Yeah yeah. 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.279 And for for selling selling out like he was getting. 0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.319 Not more, yeah yeah. 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.680 And for the record that these questions are are meant 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.600 to because we want to talk about all these legends conversations, 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:43.480 not one of the. 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:48.000 Question first to grab the mic raped the crowd maybe 0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:52.280 next to DJ Hollywood, But wait, Capri does it? Truly? 0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.080 I don't want to go down in the day with 0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.319 my Honeybull. Give me something of that young young young 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:12.640 you know Kuji rapper d. 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:14.600 Rap. 0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:18.560 We need could you wrap on here? Yeah? We do 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.640 money love or rock shant Shante Rock. 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:29.160 Shan shantea Rocks and rock money my sister. 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:35.440 But rock and we was trying to were trying to 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:41.239 get money the guest host here. Yeah, alright, yeah, that's 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:41.719 the next one. 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:47.480 Rick Ross and Fat Joe, Fat John, Fat Joe, rock 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:56.680 Yim mccarros one Cross one Caress one Look next, Big 0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:00.799 Pun of Guru, Big Pun of Guru. Yeah, Pun Pun 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:02.399 rest in peace. 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.200 I love how they don't say they don't even look 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.480 at each other. They ain't even looking at each other. 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:12.759 I'm watching all the human behavior. They're good man, m 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.040 O per mob deep mob. 0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:23.280 Deep Wow, m O p is m o p Okay, okay, okay. 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.120 So that means we're drinking. I think we gotta drink. 0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:26.920 You guys don't have to drink. You guys have we 0:48:27.080 --> 0:48:27.480 got a drink. 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:28.640 I gotta drink. We gotta drink. 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:30.160 Mop from me. 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:37.279 Yeah, I gotta drink. No, you don't have to l 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:46.000 or Big Daddy King, I drink. LL mentioned me in 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:48.560 another day. That's how you went live with them last night. 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:53.200 The last night I went live, I didn't say you 0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.160 was a lie because you was in the live a lot. 0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:56.560 I was. 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:03.560 You didn't even know you was aline. The comments was hilarious. 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:09.960 You're doing drink chats right now. I'm welcome in the morning. 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.240 It was Charlie mcanel ain't you I don't remember nothing. 0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:17.320 O my god. I looked, I said, why are you 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.279 taking me? I was mad because like, no, you got 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:22.520 drenk chants tomorrow? What the fuck are you doing drink 0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:23.759 chants right now? Oh? 0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:24.239 My bad? 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:33.799 We got yesterday man. Queen Latifa or MC light, which 0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.480 is a great verses. By the way, we need both 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:37.680 of them here, please one. 0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.080 I'm gonna have to go with a lot of Tifa 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:42.520 mm hmm. 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:45.000 Yeah, Queen Latio. 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.520 Queen, this is my my favorite. 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:49.160 You didn't have to drink. 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:56.520 You had to drink. Okay, okay, damn this is my favorite. 0:49:56.520 --> 0:50:00.439 It's my favorite one of all of these questions. Wu 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:04.480 Tang or n w A tang Whu tang that's the 0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.719 East coast jump right out of here? Right out of 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:09.080 here is amazing. 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.239 But yes, I would say n w A has been 0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:16.200 one of the biggest inspirations, especially for as live show. 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.759 Also, we toured with them in eight and it was 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.680 a must have been. It was the Nitral tour to 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:28.200 Slick Rick. 0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:29.239 N w A. 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:35.919 Caine Publican me E P M D definitely went to Nah. 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.200 Everybody came with they. It was the new giant. 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:41.080 It was the new Ones. 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.200 So what did you get from n w A that 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:44.600 you yo? They had inspired you. 0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:47.920 The most incredible stage show, I mean their stage presence 0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.560 that it was like watching a Broadway play. 0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:52.719 They had the girls on the. 0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:55.880 On they had the ship set up like a block 0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.560 and on the street pole with holes on the corner 0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:05.560 like that, D drake d J and on two guys 0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:09.239 and shipped I mean yellow DJ and on two guyage car. 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:13.080 They got police sirens on the speakers, and ship rises 0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:15.200 and ship when niggas are jumping off, they bring out 0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.520 D O C first, then no first and not d. 0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:23.880 C O C first, then yellow and then yellow go 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:27.000 up and DJ dre and and wrint comes out of 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:28.520 these like man whole ships. 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:29.000 It was. 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:32.799 It was amazing, Yeah, I've never heard of then then 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:38.759 cube and then easy. They kind of did for me 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.120 what I felt like Wu Tang should have did, like 0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.359 in terms of breaking it up supposed to coming out 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:44.320 always all together. 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:46.440 They really like, well. 0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.600 Who started to do not they began to do it 0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:55.440 later because I remember one show we did with them 0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.160 in like Switzerland somewhere Denmarkers and they all came out 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.160 one by one woman My one, and the way we 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:03.680 brought Cap Donna. I was fucking nuts. You know what 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:04.080 I'm saying. 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:10.880 Yeah, n w A definitely, but fu tang I'm saying that. 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.000 I remember I was on the tour with Keith Berry 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:19.000 and Method Man was hosting this show. So before I 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:22.719 would come on Method Man with Cole and he would 0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:25.000 hype up the crowd, and I was like, I don't 0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.120 want you to hype up the crowd. Can you you 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:30.799 want Keith Mary's tall bus? Can you stay on Keith 0:52:30.880 --> 0:52:33.799 Mary setting? That's it? Like I remember being so mad 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:36.359 because who then wants to go after a person walking 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:41.480 on people's heads? He was walking. I don't want to 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:49.399 do and I can't. I can't fit that. I can't 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.719 go if I'm walking people hands, somebody gonna fall, you 0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.239 know what I'm saying. Somebody gonna fall. It's gonna be something. Well, 0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.640 I remember Dad a bigger methet man without question. Okay, 0:52:58.680 --> 0:53:00.560 so let's put this this up and then we'll get 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.520 back to the end. Video music box or your m 0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:05.560 TV raps, video music video music box, Big old Ralph 0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:10.520 Mcdanie's all right, Uncle Ralph? Yeah, Nino Brown or Frank White. 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.839 Around of Frank White, Nino Brown. 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:20.640 Hmmm, Brown, I love, I love how you had to 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:21.560 figure about this one. 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:32.160 There, Like New Jack City was dope. 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.840 Frank was quiet with his ruthlessness. So I know what 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:35.440 you're going for. 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:40.840 I know, I don't know if New Jack City was 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.480 really based on a true story, you know what I mean? 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.480 That's halfway, you know, because it was what is it 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.960 supposed to be based on? On the Carter? Right, that's 0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:50.719 what it like. 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.799 It's based on a couple of people's story right, right, right, 0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.520 I gotta go with Frank White. 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:06.560 That means we gotta drink. That means Solo May didn't 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.040 have to drink that. What's crazy? 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.200 Yeah, it's gonna be interesting, you know. 0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:20.279 It's interesting to say that there's a there's a there's 0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:24.400 a story about what Scarface is based on. Scarface is 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:28.760 based on five different characters from from Miami, the Cowboy, 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.920 Cocaine Cowboy. So it's crazy because Scarface is based on 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.799 a real story. But it's based on five different individuals, 0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:37.320 you know what I'm saying. So they put them together 0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.160 and it's crazy because I know one of them. 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:43.839 Huh huh. 0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:48.520 No, it's not based on Mackey Monday. No, no, no, 0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:52.480 the guy that own seetees Like this guy, he looks 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:58.359 so cool. He wear glasses and then and then you'll 0:54:58.480 --> 0:55:00.799 just sit there and you're like, hey, so how you doing. 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:02.520 You know, like, hey man, you know I used to 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.200 show drunks in the future, Like what the fuck? Because 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:08.919 he looks so cool. You're like, no, it's no way. 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:15.320 He's Oh my God, like you gotta meet it. He's hilarious. 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.160 I was. I was sitting down having lunch. I was 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.239 sitting down having Damn. I was having a regular salad. 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.480 I was sitting having lunch and he saw me, and 0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:27.480 then Fat Joe came into the restaurant. Off it was 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:29.680 like some ironic ship, and he was like, I just 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:31.560 knew this guy with somebody. So he said it to 0:55:31.640 --> 0:55:33.160 Fat Joe about me. He was like, I knew it's 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.839 somebody And I looked and I couldn't. I couldn't because 0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:39.120 he looks like like a normal person until he says 0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.560 something he's not normal, is not normally, like in the 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:47.759 moment I told you he got this ship. I told 0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:51.560 you he's in the book, and he hates it because 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.239 like how they described him, he hates But it's crazy 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.000 when I say that that's what Needo Brown is kind 0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:57.960 of like based on Okay, this is one of my 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:03.840 favorite questions too, anal or digital analog. I'm an analog. 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.400 I always say analog is better because, like, if we 0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:09.880 had to do a record together, we had to be 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:13.000 face to face. You couldn't send me a two inch rail. 0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:14.960 You couldn't send me a real like those reels was 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:21.120 like little doors, like so like you couldn't little sorry 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:22.759 you mean it like that, but you know what I mean, 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:28.560 like like a session in the nineties shaped like you 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:33.360 had the whole album edited by cutting the tape. I 0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:36.319 always tell people, I said, Yo, super Thug is one take. 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:38.840 Like a lot of people don't understand what what what what? 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.759 I did that in one take because I didn't know 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:46.160 how to punch in Yeah what what what? What? 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:46.279 What? 0:56:46.320 --> 0:56:46.600 What? What? 0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:47.319 One? 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:47.480 What? 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:47.920 What? What? What? 0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:48.160 What? 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:48.400 What? 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:48.560 What? 0:56:48.680 --> 0:56:51.560 What what? That's how I counted bars. So that's the 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.600 reason why. Yeah, and I had to do this in 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:58.319 one take. So when I left, I remember for real saying, 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:00.799 I said, Yo, what we need is a hook. Brother, 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.560 we got the hook and I said, no, we don't, 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.200 and he took my ones out. What what what? What? 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:07.360 What? 0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:09.120 What what one what what? What? What? What? 0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:09.279 What? 0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:10.200 What to what? 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:12.160 He took those out and he left it there. I 0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:13.600 was like, they're gonna laugh at me, and he said, 0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:23.320 you're gonna laughed on the way to the bank around 0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.760 Thank you? You are right, all right? Sorry later let 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:31.280 me admit it. Yeah, man, this is I'm so excited. Okay, 0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:35.080 let's the last one for this and this is the 0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.160 only one that I really feel like. Isn't a trick 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.720 question loyalty or respect? 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:48.840 Mm hmm, I say respect. 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:59.880 Yes, I said circumstantial for the most part, because the 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.480 person who is loyal to you can lose respect for 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:08.880 you but still stay loyal to you. You know, there's 0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:14.440 that loyalty that's attached to love that people can be 0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:19.040 unconditionally attached to, but they don't necessarily respect you. Will 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:23.000 lose respect for you, but behind behind something you've done, 0:58:23.240 --> 0:58:26.479 you know what I'm saying. So, but the deep rooted 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:28.800 love can remain their loyalty. 0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:30.040 That's why. 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:35.160 Respect though you cannot necessarily have anyone's trust. 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.640 Damn, you got too deep. 0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.960 I'll say. You got to have it all. Yeah, you 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:57.160 got to have it both. You know, you gotta have 0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:00.360 the loyalty and the respect you know, because is when 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:04.720 you also a person who's conditioned with a lot of 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:08.440 loyalty and you feel like you lost respect. That's something like, 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:12.120 you know, that's since a pride you lose when we 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:15.560 feel like people don't you lose respect from the people 0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:16.680 you love? Right? 0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:20.520 I love it. I love that. 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.200 You know, we family? 0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:26.480 Right? 0:59:26.560 --> 0:59:26.680 Yes? 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:28.800 Yeah, so. 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:33.440 I always wanted to ask y'all, like I went through 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.680 your catalog one of my favorite records. Every Saturday, I 0:59:37.760 --> 0:59:42.240 want to hear Saturday. Did y'all make that record on Saturday? 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:46.680 But the crazy thing is I put that record together 0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:50.720 and it wasn't for Daylight Boom what go for it? 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:51.640 It was. 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.160 Amongst us as natives getting together. 0:59:59.200 --> 0:59:59.400 Yeah. 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.439 We started do in these like little side groups where 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:08.840 like say Mace, Dave, Mike G and Sammy B. Was 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.960 supposed to be this thing like another. 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:12.920 Dude from my neighborhood. 1:00:13.120 --> 1:00:16.840 Yeah, pop life. They're supposed to be kids on Zen 1:00:16.880 --> 1:00:17.480 and five. 1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.240 Me almost like a parliament type of thing. 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:27.120 Okay, groups, Okay, you know, okay, cute Q, Tip Africa, 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:29.920 Juju from be Nuts and me. 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:32.600 We were the fabulous fleas. 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.480 Wait wait talking about yeah, see it again? 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:44.880 Tip q Tip Africa. Jungle Juju from the Beating Nuts 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:45.560 was also native to. 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:47.200 Yeah, and me forgot that. 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:52.480 Yeah, when we first was really starting to hang around Jungle, 1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:56.000 Juju was always with Africa then because Juju like they 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.600 beat shop together. So I thought Juju was a part 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:02.240 of Jungle because Juju was always with Jungle because they 1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:04.959 used to him and him in Africa with like shot 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:07.880 for records. But uh, yeah, we were Fabulous Flees. We 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:12.680 did a demo and everything. Yeah, fabulous fleas Juju did 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:14.680 I got, I Got the Table. But Juju did this 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:20.480 one record. It was called Fabius Fleas. Uh, Africa did 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:22.320 this joint called the Night I Got Swatted. 1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:23.400 It was banging. 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.200 Tip did this joint. So I had to come up 1:01:27.240 --> 1:01:29.200 with something. I was like, damn man, this ship is crazy. 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:33.880 So it's just one record I found overseas, the Mighty 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:34.680 Writers Record. 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:35.880 I put that together. 1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:38.240 I put all the stuff together, the beat and everything, 1:01:38.920 --> 1:01:42.720 and I became a roller skating jam called Saturdays. And 1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:48.560 the rhym style was based off of Chic when it 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:56.200 was like you know, please girls. So that's how we 1:01:56.280 --> 1:01:57.600 were suppoed to rhyma with the record. 1:01:58.080 --> 1:01:58.560 And then. 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:02.960 Meanwhile Tommy boy was sitting us like, yo, man, everything 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.080 is coming out dope. This Ringing Ring record is dope, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:09.439 but we need something else. So I asked him, I said, yo, man, 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:13.440 can I take this back and use it for Daylight? 1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:15.040 And it was like yeah, heah, go ahead, And so 1:02:15.320 --> 1:02:17.800 the rhyme style became more of a singing thing. Five 1:02:17.880 --> 1:02:20.640 days you work, one whole day you're playing, and it 1:02:20.680 --> 1:02:22.320 wound up being Vinnire singing it. 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:31.480 And she just saw yeah, yeah, Davin, it was a question. 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:39.560 Holy ship, and I had to say, ray wing Ring, 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:44.280 I had that in my less But that's also buddy, 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:50.760 how did how did this record come come about? 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:54.320 Jungle have showed up that day. If they would have 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:57.400 showed up the day after, they could have been on 1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:00.520 ghetto thing. They just showed up the day was working 1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:05.560 on that record. Literally, it wasn't like a planned thing. 1:03:05.760 --> 1:03:08.920 They they came by the studio that day we was 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:12.320 working on that record, and then we just kind of 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:15.720 made it where like, yeah, y'all talked about Jimmy, we 1:03:15.920 --> 1:03:19.320 talked about Jenny. When Jimmy and Jenny get together, what 1:03:19.520 --> 1:03:22.200 is it? It's buddy. So that's how that record kind 1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:22.800 of came together. 1:03:23.600 --> 1:03:25.240 Yeah, it was just just like that. 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:36.760 Your Oh, I didn't know that. I'm just saying like 1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:40.800 I just now discovered that. Holy Jenny, and. 1:03:42.800 --> 1:03:43.600 That's how you know you. 1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:51.479 Like, you know, Jimmy's the man anatomy, Jennifer's the girl, 1:03:51.560 --> 1:03:54.960 and that you put it together sex bud. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:58.640 But that's what let me ask about native tongue, right, 1:03:58.720 --> 1:04:01.080 because I actually had a native tongue t shirt on, 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:02.760 but I put it on and it was too tight 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:06.400 on me. Let me, let me get my life together. 1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:15.360 I didn't. I'm glad because between me and looking crazy, 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:19.840 but that was like like to me, like I said, 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:22.480 native tongue. When I thought of that, I didn't know 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:27.360 that that was like a crew like like almost like right, 1:04:27.920 --> 1:04:32.840 and you don't see that no more. You don't see like, uh, 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:36.840 a Q tip running around with like a day I sould. 1:04:36.880 --> 1:04:39.240 You don't see a bust of rhymes running around with 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:42.280 you know these? How was it being a part of 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:43.160 native tongue? 1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:43.640 How was that? 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:47.480 I mean, we were just friends, man, I know it 1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:50.400 sounds weird to say that, meaning like when we came 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:53.280 into this and were running around with Paul. 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:57.240 Yeah, Prince Paul could be working with m see. 1:04:57.160 --> 1:05:00.120 Light so then that's how we started hanging around on 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:03.400 First Priority Music, which was Light and Audio two. 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:06.400 And so it was my first record I ever mixed. 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:11.160 Down was like swinging yeah with Prince Paul. 1:05:11.360 --> 1:05:14.760 Yeah, so Prince Paul you yo, it was just like 1:05:14.840 --> 1:05:18.480 you were happy to be down dull, right because before 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:21.560 we came out, we were in the Latin quarters and 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:23.960 we would see, Yo, they go Caine, they go this person, Yo, 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:25.920 they go Greg Nights. So like when you on you 1:05:26.040 --> 1:05:30.000 hanging with everybody, it just becomes like, but who after 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:32.440 the day on day you really hang around with and 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:37.400 it just became jungle. Jungle brought through Tip. So then 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:40.320 Tip is down and then we meet Fife and Ali. 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:43.480 You know, we just became cruel like that, you know 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:46.080 what I'm saying, Like, but it just showed up at Calliope. 1:05:46.560 --> 1:05:48.240 I just feel like Buster was just yelling the whole time. 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:50.280 Yo. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:54.120 He sounded when I met When I met Buster, Buster 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:57.959 had to been sixteen, and he sounded exactly the same 1:05:58.040 --> 1:06:01.360 way like his voice Like I just couldn't believe he 1:06:01.480 --> 1:06:02.000 was sixteen. 1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:04.000 Bust the called me the other day, I kid you 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:09.640 not right like three times, So I'm thinking someone died 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:12.400 so I picked up. He's like, yo, god, I just 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:14.680 want to let you know I changed your lyric on 1:06:14.720 --> 1:06:21.680 the vocals cover me three times because he's the lost story. 1:06:22.680 --> 1:06:26.040 We got all money right remixed together, and like he's 1:06:26.160 --> 1:06:29.320 such a he's such an artist artist that I had 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:32.960 said twenty two on the record, but it's the year 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.360 twenty twenty three. So he changed it, and he wanted 1:06:35.400 --> 1:06:37.560 to show me that respect, say, you know, you know 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.000 I changed your vocals. But I was like, you know, 1:06:40.160 --> 1:06:44.760 let's bust around you, brother. I respect you. But he's 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:51.080 just very he's an artist, artist, yes, for real, scientist, anythingcredible. 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:54.640 Yeah, yeah, you go. 1:06:54.760 --> 1:06:57.160 Ever, yet he don't mind about his sneakers. 1:06:58.400 --> 1:07:00.560 Going back to the native tongues and don't amost seemed 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:01.960 like an extension of Zulu. 1:07:02.440 --> 1:07:03.760 Was everybody a part of Zulu? 1:07:05.920 --> 1:07:09.240 Not at that point, maybe Mike Mike and. 1:07:12.160 --> 1:07:16.640 He became a part of Yeah he did, he actually did. Yeah, 1:07:16.800 --> 1:07:22.280 but more yeah, more so those guys. I was definitely 1:07:22.320 --> 1:07:26.240 heavily associated, being around all the time. Yeah, and I 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:31.720 think I've stayed associated longer than everyone else. But yeah, 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:35.480 it was all native tongue was definitely an extension of 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:36.800 Zulu nation. 1:07:37.320 --> 1:07:41.840 Yeah, did you have a relationship with Africa Bado. 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:45.400 I had a relationship with Bam. I toured with Bam, 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:53.400 Me Bam, Arthur Baker, Uh Danny Automata, we did the 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:55.520 Tommy Boy twentieth Anniversary tour. 1:07:58.000 --> 1:07:59.160 We would see Bam a lot though. 1:07:59.200 --> 1:08:03.440 We were running to a lot of DJ getting yeah. 1:08:03.960 --> 1:08:06.520 And just seeing hanging out being blessed to hang out 1:08:06.560 --> 1:08:10.880 at Red Aler's crib and you know, all those records, 1:08:11.280 --> 1:08:13.720 and you know, then heading up to the Bronx and 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:15.880 you would see like we would be with the Violators, 1:08:15.880 --> 1:08:17.679 so we were running to Bam. We would see Jazzy 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:20.960 j So, yeah, man, it was it was you said 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:24.920 you was violating you you run the violators? Yes, you 1:08:25.000 --> 1:08:27.760 know they ran with Red you know they they they 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:30.200 kept him right, you know Baby Chris, So going up 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:33.080 into the Bronx and messing with Baby Chris and all them. 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:35.720 We were, you know, occasionally running to Bam and them 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:36.040 up there. 1:08:36.200 --> 1:08:38.360 You know what I'm saying, because we had crazy Legs 1:08:38.400 --> 1:08:42.840 on here, right, and Crazy Legs kind of implied that 1:08:42.960 --> 1:08:45.960 there was other people that was rocking the parties other 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:47.320 than Cool HERK. Yeah. 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:52.120 He said that Bambada bestowed it onto herk that that 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:55.200 that mental of him being the first. 1:08:55.880 --> 1:08:58.240 Yeah, and it kind of that was his senior kind 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:01.840 of hurt my feelings because I had never heard that before. 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:05.200 But other people say that as well. But what does 1:09:05.280 --> 1:09:06.840 y'all take on that? Like, you know what I mean, 1:09:08.160 --> 1:09:11.600 I'm gonna drink to that. Okay, I don't know what 1:09:11.720 --> 1:09:12.360 that means. 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:20.599 Because I've witnessed that. I've witnessed to be debatable. 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:25.240 Because many people debated crazy Legs, they did not debate them. 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:28.559 Was called and doubled it down and we will get 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:31.280 cool her to come here. But her is that doesn't 1:09:31.320 --> 1:09:36.559 take away anything is, for lack of a better term, 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:40.560 the godfather, right, Yeah, So I him that. 1:09:41.000 --> 1:09:43.720 I honestly give him that. I mean, it's something that 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:48.200 I've been identified with identifying with since I was a child, 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:51.719 and you know, the first story to be told. I'm 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:55.040 granted it's even debatable when they even talk about. 1:09:54.840 --> 1:09:58.280 What was going on in Brooklyn and there about to 1:09:58.320 --> 1:09:59.840 say yea, but for. 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:03.600 That to be is a monumental event that people identify 1:10:03.760 --> 1:10:07.479 with Cedric Concida like that happened to be a dope 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:10.639 fucking party obviously, you know what I'm saying that people 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:14.080 kept going to not to take anything from anyone else, 1:10:14.160 --> 1:10:16.960 but it seemed like the ods was always on the 1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:21.720 Bronx and Manhattan, specifically Harlem when it came to the 1:10:21.760 --> 1:10:23.240 culture to begin with. 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:27.640 You know, I mean anyone's history quite honestly, all is 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:33.400 it's debatable. I mean, like what daylaw story we Long Island. 1:10:33.520 --> 1:10:36.719 No it's not, you know, but no, he was born 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:39.320 in Brooklyn. I was born in the Bronx. Dave was 1:10:39.360 --> 1:10:42.200 from Brooklyn. We moved to Long Island. Like there's this 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:44.880 aspects of everyone's story that you can turn around and 1:10:44.920 --> 1:10:47.479 be like, oh wow, extra p He wasn't necessarily like 1:10:47.680 --> 1:10:49.040 maybe born in Queens. 1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:50.000 Maybe he's from Halem. 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:52.200 Like no, one ain't from where they you know what 1:10:52.240 --> 1:10:52.639 I'm saying. 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:54.639 So, I mean, like, I think every. 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:59.799 Aspect of the story, there's always another layer to the story. 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.320 Is like he just said, like what that doesn't mean 1:11:02.400 --> 1:11:05.439 that Brooklyn started rocking. Once Bronx was rocking, Brooklyn was 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.840 up and running the same way. Whose story gets told first, 1:11:08.880 --> 1:11:09.479 you know what I'm saying. 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:12.479 So, and individually as a group, each of you have 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:15.280 your own perspective and might see things your own history, 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:15.880 even differently. 1:11:16.080 --> 1:11:20.080 Definitely, Well we've seen things that we've experienced things right right, 1:11:20.560 --> 1:11:22.519 based on where he coming from from the Bronx and 1:11:22.640 --> 1:11:25.719 me coming from Brooklyn and then migrating to Long Island, 1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:28.679 our journeys was different within hip hop. 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:30.560 Dog, I was a little I'm sorry because I was 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:32.599 a little kid when the blackout happened. 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:34.760 My mama was eighty eight. 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:39.760 That was that was seventy seventy seventy eight or seventy six, 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:46.160 and the blackout happened, Yo, all chaos south side my window. 1:11:46.360 --> 1:11:48.160 My mother wouldn't let me look out the window. And 1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:52.160 that's when hip hop right God is you know God really? 1:11:52.960 --> 1:11:57.519 Because everyone was still in equipment. We hear every city, 1:11:58.760 --> 1:11:59.320 I respect you. 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:00.240 Hey do. 1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:05.599 Oh. 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:07.479 I heard that Rob Swiss podcast. 1:12:07.600 --> 1:12:10.400 He talked about that that everybody stole the equipment and 1:12:10.479 --> 1:12:13.880 all of a sudden, everyone had an exclusive club that 1:12:14.040 --> 1:12:17.120 was dj J Yeah yeah, executioner. 1:12:17.360 --> 1:12:20.040 Yeah he does. Yeah yeah, that's one of the dogest 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:23.360 DJs executions yeah crew. 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:25.560 And so he was saying that and he his what 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:28.040 he's thrown out in terms of like his perspective and 1:12:28.080 --> 1:12:30.439 the dj the history and the DJs is amazing and 1:12:30.880 --> 1:12:32.040 check it out because. 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:33.439 Because we're trying to get d J e f N 1:12:33.520 --> 1:12:38.240 to go back to DJ. I still rob. He just 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:42.840 wanted to go buy you though, I'm you want to 1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:50.000 have borings right there carrying great transition. I want to 1:12:50.080 --> 1:12:53.639 to DJ my birthday, like I didn't tell you dog. 1:12:55.880 --> 1:12:58.240 Like this, if I gave you these certain files, you 1:12:58.360 --> 1:13:02.320 might make a transition. Because that's certain files. Is only 1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:03.840 amongst the homies. 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:09.439 Because Native Instruments they sponsored me, and I didn't make 1:13:09.479 --> 1:13:09.880 the chance. 1:13:13.160 --> 1:13:18.200 I love it, but I love my missed. Missed didn't 1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:21.559 move on? Is a DJ DJ? 1:13:22.920 --> 1:13:26.400 I mean us being on the road and Mace had 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:29.280 to carry his crate that struggle. 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:33.639 People don't know what that is. Fucked up now back 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:38.280 you know, I remember one time I was with he 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:45.240 was performing in Detroit and uh rest peace jam massa J, 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:49.240 and I told my DJ like go go get the equipment, 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:51.840 go and jump on real quick, and jam Master J 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:56.080 would not let Frock touch his equipment. Oh yeah, I 1:13:56.160 --> 1:13:56.479 didn't know. 1:13:56.560 --> 1:13:57.600 That was like a. 1:13:59.920 --> 1:14:02.000 I didn't know that. Like he was like, you don't 1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:05.120 I'm going to DJ putting normy right now. But it's 1:14:05.120 --> 1:14:07.880 like no, no, no, you don't know whitness it he said, 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:11.120 no one touches my equipment. And I was people, what's 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.040 set up their setups next to each other. There were 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:15.200 different DJs rocking, yeah. 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.360 DJ said us almost like a drum kit. 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:23.599 Yeah, niggas, I would be bringing my whole that's putting 1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:24.160 it all together. 1:14:26.479 --> 1:14:30.719 Technology has evolved, it's been able to make us work together. 1:14:31.960 --> 1:14:35.320 But prior to that, it's just everybody got a certain 1:14:36.360 --> 1:14:40.000 hand weight, the way they structure their needles and all 1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:40.200 of that. 1:14:40.400 --> 1:14:47.839 And you don't have pennies. Yes, some people got nickels, 1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:51.960 depending how your hand is right, so look out how 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:52.360 he is. 1:14:56.920 --> 1:15:01.200 It was always an understood thing for those who really respect. Yeah, 1:15:02.160 --> 1:15:03.760 you don't want you don't even want to rock on 1:15:03.840 --> 1:15:04.719 the next man's set. 1:15:05.600 --> 1:15:10.280 Like I remember going to clubs and I remember like 1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:12.960 funk Master Flex would like tell the DJ before him, 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:16.280 do not play these certain records. I would be like, 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:19.519 what So, I don't know if that's like a respect 1:15:19.560 --> 1:15:23.320 thing too. It's like, if I'm the headliner, you can't 1:15:23.360 --> 1:15:25.320 play the record before me that. 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:27.400 Yeah, you exhaust the records that you know are going 1:15:27.439 --> 1:15:30.479 to party in the headline DJ. He wants that for himself. 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:33.000 I mean, that's that's debating amongst DJ because the good 1:15:33.040 --> 1:15:35.080 DJ could play the same record in a different way, 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:37.800 in different ways, and yeah, you. 1:15:37.880 --> 1:15:41.880 Know, and yeah, that's a debatable thing and not being 1:15:41.960 --> 1:15:44.479 a thing. I always took pride in being the DJ 1:15:44.640 --> 1:15:45.879 that played the B side. 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:46.519 On the right. 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.360 Is one of my favorite DJ even I even wait 1:15:52.680 --> 1:15:55.439 in terms, the hit record is not a hit anymore. 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:58.599 I didn't play it later. You know what I'm saying, 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:00.880 You know, like a memory thing. 1:16:01.760 --> 1:16:02.320 I like telling. 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:04.800 I like telling the story through through the way the 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:07.280 records that I'm playing, I'm telling you a story through. 1:16:07.320 --> 1:16:09.280 That's the way I like to play the records. So 1:16:09.360 --> 1:16:12.280 you're gonna play again, She's I want to come out. 1:16:12.280 --> 1:16:12.479 I think. 1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:15.040 Look, I have so much respect for DJing. DJing didn't 1:16:15.080 --> 1:16:17.960 come naturally to me. I didn't have any mentors. I 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:22.080 was watching videos like I was getting whatever. However, I 1:16:22.120 --> 1:16:24.519 could absorb the skill and I was just but I 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:29.120 would practice for hours upon hours before I had a 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:30.519 club night or a set anywhere. 1:16:30.960 --> 1:16:32.280 And then once we started. 1:16:31.960 --> 1:16:34.719 Doing different things and doing like those practice hours weren't 1:16:34.760 --> 1:16:37.439 coming in anymore. And then the technology changed, and I'm like, 1:16:37.680 --> 1:16:40.400 out of respect to this art form unless I'm gonna 1:16:40.400 --> 1:16:41.200 put in those hours. 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.400 I'm not going back on the sets. That's how I am. 1:16:46.200 --> 1:16:48.800 I'm seeing right now. If I'm not gonna go all 1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:50.280 the way in, I'm not. I'm not gonna do it 1:16:50.360 --> 1:16:54.120 no more so. I'm sorry that everybody so natural to 1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:57.559 you though, sorry to everybody he asked me for verses. Sorry, 1:16:58.720 --> 1:17:02.760 I like this shit like this, this is respect, I 1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:06.680 get it, but I'm what you want in my neighborhood 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:08.960 is DJ Crazed, one of the DJs in the world. 1:17:09.800 --> 1:17:10.360 Incredible. 1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:11.320 I'm like, look at that. 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:12.040 I can't do this. 1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:13.320 I'm saying, this guy is. 1:17:15.320 --> 1:17:18.600 Inspired me, like Rob Swift. 1:17:21.479 --> 1:17:25.720 Of Control, the beat junkies like Boogie Blind, you. 1:17:25.760 --> 1:17:29.400 Know, Goos Down, you know all of them. Dudes. Man, 1:17:30.080 --> 1:17:32.879 you know they don't even get the respect they deserve. 1:17:33.040 --> 1:17:34.360 It's something that I'm gonna take a shot. 1:17:34.400 --> 1:17:35.120 I know you don't. 1:17:35.640 --> 1:17:38.200 I'm gonna take a shot to This is to sou 1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:42.680 and you know what western Pa, Dave Man what I 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:45.000 didn't want to. I didn't want to be a heavy heart. 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:47.760 Almost I'm hearing you. 1:17:49.360 --> 1:17:52.320 Bittersweet because you know why it is like, yeah, my 1:17:52.400 --> 1:17:55.720 big brothers in a lot of ways. That was on 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.640 Timmy boy. Before me I came out, I felt like 1:18:00.360 --> 1:18:02.479 in a lot of ways, I followed your footsteps. When 1:18:02.479 --> 1:18:06.160 I'm following your footsteps, following your footsteps, and I can 1:18:06.280 --> 1:18:11.040 remember when I found out that you guys was fighting 1:18:11.120 --> 1:18:13.640 for your rights. I remember that moment. I remember me 1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:16.840 sitting back and saying, their story is more important than minds. 1:18:17.040 --> 1:18:19.920 And what I mean by that is I knew y'all 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:23.559 getting y'all rights back first was more important and it's 1:18:23.560 --> 1:18:28.360 still it still was to me because y'all, my ogs, y'all, 1:18:28.439 --> 1:18:30.519 people who I salute, y'all, people who I take my 1:18:30.600 --> 1:18:33.720 hat off to. So y'all getting y'all, yeah, I'll getting there. 1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:37.280 So y'all getting y'all flowers meant more to me. And 1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:41.559 that's when I knew I was a good person. It's 1:18:41.600 --> 1:18:46.760 about them. It's about not me. I get it afterwards, 1:18:47.080 --> 1:18:49.920 but they get their rights back, take it and hip 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:52.360 hop stood with y'all, And I'm telling you that's a 1:18:52.439 --> 1:18:56.760 beautiful thing. I really really respect y'all. I really honor y'all, 1:18:57.520 --> 1:19:01.719 and I'm thankful. I'm thankful that y'all out here man real. 1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:08.240 Y'all him, Yeah, that's real man, and just a testament 1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:11.360 to like. People laugh sometimes when I bring artifacts. But 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:13.759 I bought this as a kid. It was a single, 1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:15.559 and because I wanted to preserve the singles, I will 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:17.519 cut cut the joint out and put it in a 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:18.479 heart plastic joint. 1:19:18.560 --> 1:19:19.760 So it was good. 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.120 And think about it a kid. Bind this and the 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:26.800 legacy that's still today. What you guys are Yeah, you 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:27.960 know what I'm saying. To be able to bring this 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:31.160 now to this show today, it is incredible, man. And 1:19:31.200 --> 1:19:33.200 the legacy you guys have impacted all of us, the 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:35.200 entire culture, every single person here. 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:37.240 It goes without words. 1:19:37.280 --> 1:19:42.520 Man, DJing got a tennis ball from nineteen ninety four exactually. 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:47.719 Before that for carrots he got a vote. 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:50.360 Go man, Wow, I'm gonna be honest. That shit is 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:52.960 so dope, bron you don't get. 1:19:52.800 --> 1:19:54.439 Them sign question. 1:19:54.560 --> 1:19:56.080 I'm about to say, I'm taking the shot of that too. 1:19:56.160 --> 1:19:58.439 Don't know, worry no more, don't Yeah, yeah, I'm sure 1:20:01.320 --> 1:20:06.479 this is it for the god you're lying now, let 1:20:06.560 --> 1:20:09.479 me ask you what the hell is potholes in my lawn? 1:20:11.280 --> 1:20:12.800 Biting my rhyme? That's it? 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:19.040 Okay, you know what holes in my lawn? By the way, 1:20:19.080 --> 1:20:21.200 I was poor you. So I didn't have a lawn, 1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:24.559 so I didn't know what the lawn was like somebody's lawn. 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:29.479 So I always wanted to ask you that MC. 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:30.160 Bite my Ron. 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:33.320 Ye, as long as our rhymes and the poddles or 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:36.240 the chunks that I sucker, MC would have been off 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:37.639 of the tape. 1:20:38.840 --> 1:20:40.439 Yeah, in deep. 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:46.320 You know what I'm like in the studio room when 1:20:46.360 --> 1:20:49.800 I hear the rhymes, but the beauty was I got it. 1:20:50.160 --> 1:20:53.360 That was like my main connection sucking with them. When 1:20:53.360 --> 1:20:55.479 I'm hearing the rhymes, I'm like, oh, should I know 1:20:55.560 --> 1:20:56.439 what the you means? 1:20:58.720 --> 1:20:58.920 Yeah? 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:04.519 So you want to say something else, so, you know, 1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:10.760 speaking about you know, rest in peace to Dave. I 1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:18.040 remember me being with Pun, right. I remember me going 1:21:18.120 --> 1:21:21.720 to actual puns fore the room and I stood on 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:24.599 the side of his casket, well in front of his casket, 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:27.880 and everybody kind of you know, grabbed me and said, 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:31.040 he's not suffering no more. And I couldn't. I couldn't 1:21:31.320 --> 1:21:36.320 grasp it because I've never seen Pun suffer. But then 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.960 I started to think about it. I used to remember 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:42.000 at times when Pun be fall to sleep sleep apnea. 1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:44.320 I didn't know. I was too young at the time, 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:46.720 I would look at pun and I would step my 1:21:47.400 --> 1:21:49.960 story up. I thought I was being boring, you know 1:21:50.000 --> 1:21:52.000 what I mean? I thought I was being boring. So 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:57.800 is that something that you guys knew about Dave or no, 1:21:57.960 --> 1:22:00.479 we he knew. 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:06.759 I mean, and Dave had congested congested heart kailure. 1:22:10.120 --> 1:22:12.480 We've been knowing about it since Grind. 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:14.599 Grind date, the grind Ate album. 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:17.680 There were certain things he could have done or was 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.320 told to do, and at one point he could be 1:22:20.439 --> 1:22:26.479 doing it, you know, and you just get comfortable, yeah, 1:22:26.640 --> 1:22:29.479 and Okay, I'm doing what the doc told me to do. 1:22:29.640 --> 1:22:31.840 I'm on pointing, and sometimes you just want to fall 1:22:31.920 --> 1:22:34.639 off your regiment of health, your healthy regiment. 1:22:34.760 --> 1:22:41.439 And that was about battle that he had. Mace can. 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:45.720 Confirm what I'm saying as far as like I said 1:22:45.760 --> 1:22:48.200 to Mace, like me and Dave was together on the 1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:54.800 Guerrillas tour last year, and I was just saying, like, yo, man, 1:22:55.520 --> 1:22:58.240 Dave is having a problem with just this one song, 1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:01.040 like you know, like we get through it, we rocket, 1:23:01.720 --> 1:23:03.960 but when he gets off stage, it was just like 1:23:04.080 --> 1:23:07.080 a lot as if we had performed for almost an hour. 1:23:07.160 --> 1:23:09.160 So I was like, yo, man't I don't think we're 1:23:09.160 --> 1:23:12.720 gonna tour no more. I just really don't think that's 1:23:12.760 --> 1:23:18.519 gonna be possible. But I'm being honest death Nah, I 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:20.760 just thought like it would be like, Yo, Day would 1:23:20.760 --> 1:23:21.639 show up on the TV. 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:23.960 Shit, you know what I'm saying. He could sit here 1:23:23.960 --> 1:23:24.280 and do this. 1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:28.160 Maybe we'd narrow down to like doing three or four songs. 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:28.960 You know. 1:23:29.800 --> 1:23:34.360 We were just thinking that early about you know, adjusting things, 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:37.559 you know, like when the Grammy thing came up, all right, 1:23:37.800 --> 1:23:39.560 this is a good opportunity, let's do this. 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:43.400 Day was all in. But then he just I guess 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:45.680 he just felt like, well, no, I really can't fly. 1:23:46.800 --> 1:23:47.880 And then this didn't happen. 1:23:48.000 --> 1:23:50.240 So we was all on the phone after that Grammy 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:52.960 joint and we were just all really talking and Yo, 1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:55.800 we was like yo, man, it was a bittersweet. I 1:23:55.920 --> 1:23:57.720 was like, Yo, thank y'all for like giving me the 1:23:57.800 --> 1:24:00.120 props to what I did. But I just miss my 1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:03.160 niggas being there with me. And I was just like, yo, man, 1:24:03.280 --> 1:24:05.680 and we just all started laughing because I was like, Yo, 1:24:05.800 --> 1:24:08.280 this nigga, Melly Mel still got. 1:24:08.240 --> 1:24:11.640 Like seven hundred muscles, you know what I'm saying. He 1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:14.400 looks amazing. He wanted to fight somebody, yo, And I 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:15.880 was just like in the day, it was like we 1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:19.240 was all laughing together. We just all laughing. Was like yeah, man, 1:24:19.240 --> 1:24:21.720 we gotta get a health right man, like you know. 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:25.000 So it was it was something man. It was like 1:24:25.120 --> 1:24:30.479 we all talked three days before we lost this brother, like, yo, 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:32.320 we got to get this right. You know what I'm saying. 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:36.320 So I didn't see this ship coming. I'm being honest, 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:37.880 I didn't see it. 1:24:38.280 --> 1:24:41.479 Yeah, man, let's take let's take a moment of silence. 1:24:41.520 --> 1:24:44.519 Can you everybody back there take a moment of silence, Yeah, man, 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:53.679 and really apologize fellas. 1:24:53.800 --> 1:24:58.720 No, man, you know, I mean we all lost. Yeah, 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:04.040 it was just all lost. Yeah, tears are warranted, you know, 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:05.880 Like he was a good man. 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:11.000 Did he get to know that you got the rights back? No, 1:25:11.200 --> 1:25:12.599 he knew all that, Okay. 1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:14.400 It was just that we were all in the ship 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:18.519 we was talking about forty eight hours before even yeah wow. 1:25:18.960 --> 1:25:24.280 Yeah yeah we was ready, no, because we already knew, 1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:26.120 like and we was ready. 1:25:26.280 --> 1:25:29.160 I know for him, he was ready to go. Yeah, 1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:34.120 I know for him though. It was about it was cool. Yeah, 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:36.400 like I said, all the ship was set up that 1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:36.960 Webster Hall. 1:25:37.000 --> 1:25:40.000 Ship was set up. We had to spotify shipsut. 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:42.160 We was Yo. We was on it. 1:25:42.600 --> 1:25:43.280 We was on it. 1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:49.840 But I think Dave knew his limitations and he was 1:25:49.920 --> 1:25:51.400 just trying to be there for us, you know what 1:25:51.400 --> 1:25:54.320 I'm saying. And he didn't want to let us down, 1:25:54.640 --> 1:25:55.320 you know what I'm saying. 1:25:55.560 --> 1:25:59.640 So I'm trying to talk about her going to the 1:25:59.720 --> 1:26:02.400 grand because he was still trying to go. Me and 1:26:02.479 --> 1:26:05.280 have both been struggling with some health issues, you know, 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:08.200 but this was way more severe than me. And I'm like, 1:26:09.080 --> 1:26:12.200 Smiles would call me up. A tour manager. He called 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.200 me up and we're like, yo, man, I don't think 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:17.240 this dude should do this. Man, you know, figure out 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.280 how to let Merce just do this by himself. So 1:26:19.400 --> 1:26:22.680 we call on the phone with a call and I'm like, yo, man, 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:27.560 this is how I feel. I'm thankful for the opportunity, 1:26:28.160 --> 1:26:30.200 but maybe it is just like Merce rock And he 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:33.200 was still adamant about trying to go, and then even 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.280 down to trying to make it to the Grammys. He 1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:38.120 couldn't make it. The day of his flight, he couldn't 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:43.120 make it. Yeah, But after the Grammars, we were on 1:26:43.240 --> 1:26:46.400 the phone, you know, proud of him for holding it 1:26:46.520 --> 1:26:51.840 down like he wrapped and killed it, held it down. 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.920 You know, we on the phone like just ready like 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:01.160 talking that good shit. But how and even business things, 1:27:01.240 --> 1:27:03.839 structured things that we knew we still needed to complete, 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.920 that we completed like it was gold time, nor it 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:13.240 was go time. Ma fucked up with it. 1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:15.920 It was a loss to all the hip hop you 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:17.600 know what I mean. But I imagine this is me, 1:27:17.960 --> 1:27:21.040 just me just seeing you brothers talk about it. And 1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:23.880 by the way, thank you, thank y'all for being you know, 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:28.320 open open, because like I said, with Pun, I felt 1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:31.720 like Pun was my best friend, right, but I felt 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:32.840 like I was naive. 1:27:33.840 --> 1:27:38.120 Of Pun's funeral his son was born. What we had 1:27:38.160 --> 1:27:40.840 a show at the Roxy, the Roxy in l a 1:27:43.720 --> 1:27:48.840 And and the night of his funeral his son was 1:27:49.280 --> 1:27:52.719 being born, everybody who was pretty much at the funeral 1:27:52.880 --> 1:27:56.240 came to the Rocky held us down till he got 1:27:56.320 --> 1:28:00.559 to the show. Wow, like everybody. 1:28:01.840 --> 1:28:05.520 Like, yo, it's crazy because. 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:08.160 Look a little crazy. You look a little crazy. Yeah, 1:28:08.640 --> 1:28:20.000 look like that. Okay, I don't know what that it was, 1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:28.679 but that's drift, yo, yo. So what's your favorite place 1:28:29.120 --> 1:28:33.720 to perform? Don't tell me? Dudel dof Germany. That's your 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:36.840 favorite place in the world. It's my favorite place. It 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:42.000 always brings up. Oh they own money. 1:28:45.680 --> 1:28:48.200 It's hard to say, man, it's a lot because we 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:51.639 from the jump, we was always out there. We love 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:54.320 the tour like us and try would be together and 1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:56.519 tipping them and be like, you know, two weeks and 1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:58.639 they be yo, we want to go home. We always 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:01.920 just wanted to just keep going. So it's a bunch man. 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:05.880 It's UK like the UK is like home. London is home. 1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:08.880 I can't but London it's home. 1:29:10.960 --> 1:29:11.240 Question. 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:18.840 But uh, you know Japan is dope hour okay hours banging. 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:21.600 That's not mainland Japan. But but yeah, ok, and I 1:29:21.760 --> 1:29:22.040 was dope. 1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:24.040 What is it? 1:29:26.360 --> 1:29:31.400 Yeah? But for me it became more who we touring with, 1:29:32.560 --> 1:29:37.960 you know, because there have been so many great places, 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:42.160 but to repeat them with different programs, you know, rocking 1:29:42.240 --> 1:29:44.759 with you know, especially with people you love and respect, 1:29:44.960 --> 1:29:47.680 you know what I mean. I'll never forget rocking with 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:52.840 now Rogers and Sister Sledge one time, No, not Sister 1:29:52.880 --> 1:29:53.800 Sledge point. 1:29:56.520 --> 1:29:57.599 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1:29:58.760 --> 1:30:01.000 Dog got music as a allowed us to rock, as 1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:04.320 you said, all rap program it could be us and 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:07.600 any Kravitz. It could be us and Tito point we 1:30:07.680 --> 1:30:10.320 did to show us, Tito Pinte and Regina Bell like 1:30:11.160 --> 1:30:11.840 we've done it. 1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:14.320 Like our music just has just allowed us to go 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:18.320 any and everywhere. You know what I'm saying. You know 1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:18.840 what I'm saying. 1:30:18.920 --> 1:30:22.280 So it's just like whether it's like he just said, 1:30:22.360 --> 1:30:24.639 like we could be over here doing something with someone 1:30:24.720 --> 1:30:26.760 over here. We can come back on this side and 1:30:26.880 --> 1:30:30.800 we we we were bad bunny. We like we were 1:30:30.880 --> 1:30:34.080 able to run any which way you point, We can 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:45.479 do it, you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, Yeah, 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:50.839 he brung out I forgot who he brung out. He second, 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:53.519 but on a second weekend, I know he brought uh 1:30:54.960 --> 1:31:00.680 come on, Luis Feliciano. 1:31:01.240 --> 1:31:04.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, you knowing your ship. 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:10.280 We used to playing on stage for two hours us. 1:31:10.600 --> 1:31:11.280 You know what I'm saying. 1:31:11.479 --> 1:31:16.600 Yeah, you know yeah, actually used to that said I said, no, 1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:19.080 I remember the first time I went to Europe, I 1:31:19.200 --> 1:31:23.559 did forty five minutes. They was like, that's okay. All 1:31:23.600 --> 1:31:27.680 the niggas w course and you better not do it 1:31:27.760 --> 1:31:31.080 on the track no backtrack vocal. 1:31:31.720 --> 1:31:34.160 I'm friends with DJ f N he won't even Yeah, DJ, 1:31:36.560 --> 1:31:40.760 so to the Canadians that we did, I'm not sure 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:42.439 about that, DJ. 1:31:43.200 --> 1:31:44.720 Yeah, the native instruments joints I took. 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:48.919 Okay, my back, my man, I apologize with us traveling 1:31:49.000 --> 1:31:51.400 around the world, that really helped us because. 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:57.360 The states Man, this hip hop thing was ours. So 1:31:57.600 --> 1:31:59.439 like you could do a show in l A. 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:02.720 People show up at the House of Blues, but it 1:32:02.840 --> 1:32:04.960 was just kind of normal, you know what I'm saying, 1:32:05.080 --> 1:32:06.960 Like you could be rocking. You see a bunch of 1:32:07.040 --> 1:32:09.519 niggas talking and if you could turn me like, yo, 1:32:10.200 --> 1:32:17.560 stop talking, nigga, I'm rocking. Where you going overseas? It 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:21.080 was like, yo, you don't live here. This is special 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:23.960 to us. So like they wanted you to give them everything. 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:27.519 You couldn't short change them, you know. So that's that 1:32:27.760 --> 1:32:30.479 was being honest. That was our school. Like so when 1:32:30.520 --> 1:32:33.880 we came back to the States, we provided that where 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:35.960 we made sure like yo, like we do that to 1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:36.320 this day. 1:32:36.320 --> 1:32:37.360 I did at Coachella. 1:32:37.520 --> 1:32:39.880 Some some girl didn't put her hand up or she 1:32:40.120 --> 1:32:42.760 wasn't like doing the pledge I told her to do, 1:32:43.080 --> 1:32:44.760 Like I made every one point in her ass like yo, 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:52.120 like a partaking this we want to make this an 1:32:52.160 --> 1:32:56.519 experience so that those are different. Definitely lessons we've learned, 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:57.120 you know what I'm saying. 1:32:57.200 --> 1:33:00.840 I remember I was in Warsaw, Poland one night and 1:33:01.000 --> 1:33:05.200 I care up there and they're saying c. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:07.599 NN. 1:33:07.760 --> 1:33:10.720 So I'm saying to the promoter, I said, how long 1:33:10.840 --> 1:33:13.920 have they been saying this? They said since seven o'clock? 1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:16.000 So I was like, they think they think I'm late. 1:33:16.320 --> 1:33:19.439 They're like no, but then I look and then they're like, 1:33:19.680 --> 1:33:23.080 everyone shaved their head to look like you, Nori, and 1:33:23.200 --> 1:33:31.920 I was like, that wasn't a good idea. Look like 1:33:32.080 --> 1:33:36.320 skins scared them? You're talking about? Can you tell them 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:39.760 to put their hair back on? I'm sorry I lost 1:33:39.800 --> 1:33:45.920 the focus because you it's crazy. We're a bunch of 1:33:46.040 --> 1:33:50.080 kids from Queen's Raised, Long Island, Bronx, Brooklyn, and we 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:53.280 actually got to perform all over the world. Like that 1:33:53.360 --> 1:33:57.320 ship is crazy, like you think about it, like the 1:33:57.600 --> 1:33:59.960 countries that you guys been Like. I was sitting here 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:01.600 with Chuck D and Chuck D said he's been to 1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:03.760 a hundred comes. Man, I didn't even know one hundred 1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:06.600 countries existed. I was like, really, he said, more than 1:34:06.600 --> 1:34:08.320 one hundred, one hundred and thirty four. 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:12.840 Yeah, I gotta say we've done probably the same. 1:34:13.080 --> 1:34:15.559 Yeah, that's why I bringing it up, because. 1:34:15.360 --> 1:34:22.160 We we've pretty much been where everywhere probably. 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:26.559 Gonna been to casts down, We've been. 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:30.840 We've been where uh Cypercell has been, Nice Tea has been, 1:34:31.600 --> 1:34:34.360 We've been repeated offenders, had a whole bunch of places. 1:34:35.840 --> 1:34:41.200 How is that like rocking the world, because that's probably 1:34:41.240 --> 1:34:43.880 the only thing I missed about hip hop is rocking 1:34:44.040 --> 1:34:46.360 the world. Like when I'm more of that world, it's 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:49.280 a blessing man like, like that's the only thing I missed. 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:52.680 But other than that, I love my space. But how 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:53.040 is it? 1:35:09.560 --> 1:35:19.599 Come on, you got the right colors on that colors? No, dog, 1:35:20.200 --> 1:35:25.240 you might be starting some trouble County. Huh oh, you're listen. 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:30.200 That's that's the best rivalry Miami heat against the Knicks. 1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:34.160 But Regie Miller I hated him. I can't and Jordan 1:35:34.600 --> 1:35:38.360 Jordan crushed every year we would going, we get right 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:40.000 next to it in Jordan. 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:42.840 Junk on us. 1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:47.240 I don't like it. I never got over it to 1:35:47.320 --> 1:35:49.080 be a Knicks fan. You know how hard it is 1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:50.840 to be a Jets fan. 1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:52.599 I'm a Knicks whoa. 1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:57.519 I'm a bad at wife. When it comes to the next. 1:35:57.520 --> 1:35:58.200 I'm a bad. 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:00.599 My card. 1:36:01.040 --> 1:36:03.439 Oh being a Knicks fan is horrible. I just got 1:36:03.560 --> 1:36:07.680 to act like I ain't see the game, Like did 1:36:07.680 --> 1:36:09.479 you see the game? Like, no, I ain't see that ship. 1:36:10.680 --> 1:36:12.680 I don't want to. But are you a Knicks fan? 1:36:13.920 --> 1:36:15.040 I don't. I don't really watch that. 1:36:15.160 --> 1:36:17.559 You don't funk with sports like that? I can tell 1:36:17.560 --> 1:36:21.559 you was fun with sports basket boxing and boxing. You've 1:36:21.560 --> 1:36:25.920 seen the tank fight. No, I missed missed the tank fighting. 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:27.439 Oh my bad? 1:36:27.920 --> 1:36:31.479 Come on, that was the That was the greatest floss ever. 1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:41.280 We missed the fighting thousand thousand people. Yo, what is 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:49.280 that we keep rolling up? Motherfucker? So for people that 1:36:49.400 --> 1:36:55.760 don't know, you guys have pluck one, pluck two, pluck three. 1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:58.320 For people that don't know, describe what that what that 1:36:58.479 --> 1:36:59.800 means for it. 1:36:59.880 --> 1:37:00.599 Was just a chance. 1:37:00.720 --> 1:37:03.439 It was just it was almost like a count like 1:37:03.560 --> 1:37:05.360 you know when people about the rhyme be like yo 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:10.800 yo yo and about to say that the same ship. 1:37:10.880 --> 1:37:13.760 It was like plugged the count is plugged two. That 1:37:13.960 --> 1:37:14.640 That's all it was. 1:37:15.680 --> 1:37:16.600 And it was just for that. 1:37:18.280 --> 1:37:23.479 Plug tuning was just uh a routine. It wasn't really 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:25.080 about it being a song. It was a routine. He 1:37:25.080 --> 1:37:27.600 would cut and peach the president and we will do that. 1:37:27.720 --> 1:37:28.639 We will do plug tuning. 1:37:29.080 --> 1:37:30.000 Did you do you? Guys? 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:30.200 Ever? 1:37:30.960 --> 1:37:33.080 And I'm gonna talk to you because you're here as 1:37:33.120 --> 1:37:35.840 an MC. Do you ever put yourself in that top 1:37:35.920 --> 1:37:40.840 tier category of lyricists that a lot of people put 1:37:40.880 --> 1:37:42.400 you in, including myself? 1:37:42.479 --> 1:37:45.479 I'm the only thing that my redding bands. Come on, bro, 1:37:45.840 --> 1:37:50.560 how you changing something like that? My wife might be 1:37:50.680 --> 1:37:59.000 mad at me. I'm sorry, he's the word sorry. 1:37:59.800 --> 1:38:03.320 You yourself a top tier lyricist, and that like a 1:38:03.720 --> 1:38:04.920 like up there with the greats. 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:07.840 I mean me personally, I've never I've never done that. 1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:11.639 I just always said to myself, I am nowhere near 1:38:13.400 --> 1:38:17.479 galaxies away from the wackest nigga. Absolutely, but I've never 1:38:17.600 --> 1:38:19.960 But you are at the top tier. I mean, I 1:38:20.040 --> 1:38:22.360 appreciate when we can say that. I've just always been 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:25.519 the person where I allow myself to get scared, Like 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:27.400 when I gotta be on the record with Black Thought. 1:38:27.240 --> 1:38:29.040 I'm like, oh no, this nigga's not gonna dust me. 1:38:29.479 --> 1:38:32.559 Like that's how I look at and that's how you maintained, 1:38:32.560 --> 1:38:33.439 that's how you're shutting. You know. 1:38:34.680 --> 1:38:37.360 If I gotta be on somewhere most shit, I gotta 1:38:37.439 --> 1:38:39.760 I start and my own nigga. Dave, he was like that, 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:42.680 he Ya, I'm the person where if we had a 1:38:42.760 --> 1:38:46.040 studio session, so I know if we're going to go 1:38:46.080 --> 1:38:48.800 in the studio Wednesday and do something, so Sunday, I'm 1:38:48.800 --> 1:38:51.000 already righting Wednesday. 1:38:51.040 --> 1:38:51.600 I come with it. 1:38:52.720 --> 1:38:54.840 Dave would just be sitting there, listen to what I'm doing. 1:38:54.960 --> 1:38:58.639 He pulls out a path, he ships his ship out 1:38:58.720 --> 1:39:02.680 right there. That's how they That's how ill he was. 1:39:02.760 --> 1:39:05.960 So whatever I was trying to be or I have became, 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:09.800 it's because of I was not trying to be left 1:39:09.880 --> 1:39:11.760 in the dust behind him, you know. 1:39:11.960 --> 1:39:14.720 So Nah, I don't. I don't think of myself like 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:15.760 that at all. 1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:21.639 I just I really respect, you know, and I'm humble 1:39:21.720 --> 1:39:25.200 by whatever anyone feel how my skills are. 1:39:25.360 --> 1:39:28.040 But I'm always up for improvement. I listened to the 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:28.759 young dudes. 1:39:28.840 --> 1:39:31.639 I hear ship and I'll be like, Yo, that's dope, 1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:33.679 and it just inspires me, you know what I'm saying. 1:39:34.280 --> 1:39:36.599 I was in La not too long ago, status selected 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:39.000 was doing like a release party for a Kodu and 1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:40.400 I was listening to his ship. 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:46.599 It's dope, and I was like, yo, man, this is dope. 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:50.080 Like it is. I'm just always a student of shit, 1:39:50.400 --> 1:39:53.160 you know, always Well, well, we know you humble, but 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:56.000 we're gonna we're gonna brag for you. Yeah, y'all one 1:39:56.040 --> 1:40:01.840 of the best groups of all motherfucking time. With no equivocations. 1:40:01.840 --> 1:40:05.360 I don't even use big words. With no equivocations, y'all 1:40:05.400 --> 1:40:09.240 are one of the best groups of all time. Things 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:15.080 y'all make global music. You have sustained you guys, the fans, 1:40:15.720 --> 1:40:19.080 the people. You guys are the people's champions. And just 1:40:19.160 --> 1:40:20.880 in case you want to be humble, and we're going 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:26.760 to tell you that to your goddamn yo, I ain't 1:40:26.760 --> 1:40:31.559 gonna lie down. D came in here. I'm tiring, yo, 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:34.599 I'm so listen. I'm run to go to the store. 1:40:36.120 --> 1:40:39.880 I'm trying to put them with holy ship. You want 1:40:39.880 --> 1:40:40.600 to bring Damond in? 1:40:41.080 --> 1:40:43.160 Yes, I told them to get a chair, let's get 1:40:43.240 --> 1:40:45.519 Let's get dam and let's bring him in. 1:40:45.760 --> 1:40:46.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell ya. 1:40:47.880 --> 1:40:52.160 I need the water, all. 1:40:52.120 --> 1:40:59.479 Right, let's make some I ain't gonna lie to you. 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:02.639 I looked at you to the right, and I've seen 1:41:02.680 --> 1:41:05.160 it and I said, that's exactly how I feel like 1:41:05.200 --> 1:41:10.120 because because because New York man, we're in Miami. Was 1:41:10.120 --> 1:41:14.960 gonna show you in Day County in Miami Day County when, yes, 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.679 when would be exactly you used to be little perto Rico. Yep. 1:41:19.000 --> 1:41:21.760 Did you see the take my yeah, no question, he 1:41:21.840 --> 1:41:24.080 put it on him. Yeah, yeah, definitely knocked him out 1:41:24.080 --> 1:41:26.040 with a with a jab to the to the ridge. 1:41:26.240 --> 1:41:30.960 I know, I looktend God bless me. Ryan Gotcia. I 1:41:31.080 --> 1:41:33.360 did like you, but I just didn't know. I know 1:41:33.640 --> 1:41:37.799 he wasn't Tankers a dog. That's too much. Yeah, that's crazy. 1:41:37.880 --> 1:41:41.920 That's crazy. So Diamond detos, what's going on? Yo? You 1:41:42.000 --> 1:41:44.560 know the albums out the rearview, the review, you know 1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:48.760 what I mean. And I'm here today to shoot one 1:41:48.800 --> 1:41:51.080 of the videos with the album I got with my 1:41:51.160 --> 1:41:54.800 man pause right here High that's right, and just here 1:41:54.960 --> 1:41:59.760 social port the family, that's right. I'm a huge daylight 1:41:59.800 --> 1:42:13.040 fl too. God damn it all we are. So you 1:42:13.080 --> 1:42:16.439 said you're filming the video today, christ is yours, right, 1:42:17.000 --> 1:42:18.840 So tell us, tell us, tell us what this record 1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:22.840 is about. The song Flying High. It's basically about you know, 1:42:23.040 --> 1:42:27.040 just just just moving forward and just staying above the bullshit. 1:42:27.680 --> 1:42:29.439 That's how I would call it, you know what I mean, 1:42:30.080 --> 1:42:32.240 not for real, you know what I mean. And you 1:42:32.360 --> 1:42:34.360 know your man right here, Pa, he don't do too 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:37.160 many features. So when he blessed me with the verse, 1:42:37.280 --> 1:42:39.640 you know what I mean, I really appreciated that. You 1:42:39.720 --> 1:42:43.480 know what I mean, dude, don't do too many you know, appearances. 1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:48.720 So so earlier today you said that I see the 1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:53.040 picture with fat Joe right what, he's thirteen years old 1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:54.280 with the k next jersey. 1:42:54.560 --> 1:42:54.760 Yeah. 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:56.880 Yeah, remember the start of jacket is in eighty four. 1:42:57.080 --> 1:43:00.360 You said you took that picture. Yeah, my man, Troy 1:43:00.479 --> 1:43:04.880 took it. We were together. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:43:04.880 --> 1:43:07.639 And you see you see Joe. You see Joe playing basket. 1:43:08.479 --> 1:43:10.240 I don't did joke to play basketball. I'm just be honest. 1:43:10.479 --> 1:43:13.760 That's my friend. He had a little game. He had 1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:16.840 my friend, but Joe, and it's not something I think of. 1:43:17.840 --> 1:43:18.799 Don't take a basketball. 1:43:19.640 --> 1:43:20.160 You don't think of. 1:43:20.240 --> 1:43:26.519 Joe pop lock. And I've seen him that. I've seen 1:43:26.640 --> 1:43:33.839 him with the white gloves and everything. White gloves, white gloves, 1:43:42.680 --> 1:43:47.479 that's hip. So Diamond. Let me ask you because their 1:43:47.520 --> 1:43:50.400 story is so famous, This story is so famous, you 1:43:50.479 --> 1:43:54.880 know them them not you know, having the rights to 1:43:54.960 --> 1:43:57.000 they music and then they finally got the rights to 1:43:57.040 --> 1:43:59.280 their music. Where was you at when you when you 1:43:59.360 --> 1:44:01.639 found out that they got there, they got their ship back? 1:44:02.680 --> 1:44:05.920 Oh Daylight? Yeah, well I know they was, you know, 1:44:06.280 --> 1:44:08.040 they was going through it with Tommy Boy, you know 1:44:08.200 --> 1:44:10.840 for a while, you know what I mean. So you 1:44:10.960 --> 1:44:14.439 know it's artists from that era, you know, they they 1:44:14.600 --> 1:44:16.280 know that, yo, you know it's you know, I think 1:44:16.360 --> 1:44:18.720 after thirty five years, the rising first back to you. 1:44:18.800 --> 1:44:21.760 I think it's thirty but he's But I mean, only 1:44:21.800 --> 1:44:24.360 your masters is everything, you know what I mean. That's 1:44:24.400 --> 1:44:27.120 that's your blood, sweat and tears. So you know you 1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:29.680 should control that, right you know. I'm trying to get 1:44:29.680 --> 1:44:32.560 stunts blusting hip hop back as we speak, right, you 1:44:32.600 --> 1:44:34.880 know what I mean. So it's been thirty years Bigger 1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:39.360 Picture's ownership. Yeah, it hasn't been thirty years. Yeah, it 1:44:39.400 --> 1:44:40.880 has been thirty years. They have to give it back 1:44:40.880 --> 1:44:43.920 to you, right, yeah, yep. Ninety two Best Kept Secrets 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:49.120 sadly got a one track mind. What a crazy trying 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:53.000 to get my masters back as well. God damn it, man, Jesus, 1:44:54.360 --> 1:44:56.600 I would never think that we would have to have 1:44:56.720 --> 1:45:01.960 this conversation like that, right, because I believe that hip 1:45:02.000 --> 1:45:03.840 hop is one of the worst loans you could ever have. 1:45:05.960 --> 1:45:08.760 Like they give you this money, yeah, which is what 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:11.479 it is. It's a bank loan. It's a bank loan, yeah, 1:45:11.520 --> 1:45:14.880 and it's my interest bank loan. It's the worst bank loan. 1:45:15.640 --> 1:45:17.840 So have you guys had a chance to speak to 1:45:17.920 --> 1:45:21.439 Tom Silverman direct or. No, this had nothing to do 1:45:21.520 --> 1:45:22.479 with him once you sold it. 1:45:23.240 --> 1:45:27.440 I spoke to him the actual day we started the boycott, 1:45:28.720 --> 1:45:31.719 That's when I spoke to him. It was that morning 1:45:31.800 --> 1:45:35.400 before we went up to sway M That's what I 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:40.720 spoke to him. And what was this conversation Like, I 1:45:40.840 --> 1:45:46.040 really don't want to talk about it for me? Yeah, 1:45:46.439 --> 1:45:48.800 I really don't, you know what I mean. I'd rather 1:45:48.920 --> 1:45:50.240 talk to you about it off camp. 1:45:52.560 --> 1:45:59.400 I mean for me, I forgive him now moving forward, 1:45:59.439 --> 1:46:03.200 because forgiveness is about forgiving yourself, you know what I mean. 1:46:03.360 --> 1:46:07.200 But he has he didn't. He didn't want to negotiate 1:46:07.280 --> 1:46:09.600 with me when I was like, you know, he we 1:46:09.760 --> 1:46:12.240 had reached out to each other. I don't remember if 1:46:12.280 --> 1:46:14.240 it's him or as me or whatever. But we spoke 1:46:15.000 --> 1:46:17.280 and I was trying to buy the rights back from 1:46:17.360 --> 1:46:23.880 him direct and it wasn't amicable. It wasn't it wasn't nothing. 1:46:23.960 --> 1:46:26.280 Yeah, this wasn't either if they had to fall in 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:28.760 the hands of someone else for it to be right, right, 1:46:29.000 --> 1:46:31.840 you know. So that's why I picked him up then 1:46:32.120 --> 1:46:35.240 having to really talk about him, you know, because you're right, 1:46:35.360 --> 1:46:37.400 he's not really a good person. But I always knew that, 1:46:38.000 --> 1:46:40.280 you know what, you know, I knew that from the 1:46:40.360 --> 1:46:44.439 type of business he does, you know, I mean, here's 1:46:44.479 --> 1:46:47.559 who he is. Once I understood that many many years ago, 1:46:47.920 --> 1:46:51.600 all I did was do what he did, what he 1:46:51.720 --> 1:46:54.400 been doing to him. Yeah, that's all I did. And 1:46:54.479 --> 1:46:57.400 all I did was say what he said. I never 1:46:57.479 --> 1:47:00.920 said anything bad about him, just said what he said 1:47:02.320 --> 1:47:05.040 and let everybody else decide if it was right or wrong, 1:47:05.720 --> 1:47:07.560 because I already know what's wrong as shit, you know 1:47:07.600 --> 1:47:10.519 what I'm saying, right, And at the end of the day, 1:47:11.000 --> 1:47:15.799 like he always presented it, it's business right, right, yeah right, yeah. 1:47:15.840 --> 1:47:17.840 Yeah, that's all We wanted to take care of his 1:47:17.920 --> 1:47:21.559 business man. It don't really even get personalized. We don't 1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:24.960 even got to really talk on him. You know, we're 1:47:25.000 --> 1:47:26.760 just blessed to be here doing what we're doing with 1:47:26.880 --> 1:47:30.800 people who want to do business. And I mean, come on, man, 1:47:30.840 --> 1:47:33.120 let's be honest. Business don't necessarily always got to be fair. 1:47:33.200 --> 1:47:33.559 Business. 1:47:33.720 --> 1:47:36.840 You just gotta Once you show you no knowledge of something, 1:47:37.640 --> 1:47:39.519 maybe people will deal with you a certain way. 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:41.400 You know what I'm saying. Hold on what you just said. 1:47:41.479 --> 1:47:42.840 You said business don't always have to. 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:43.960 Business don't have to be fair. 1:47:43.960 --> 1:47:45.000 I have to be business. 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:49.200 Don't try to be my friend, right, That's the thing. 1:47:49.200 --> 1:47:52.800 You know, that was That was the thing that with 1:47:52.920 --> 1:47:57.000 me and you. We went to CBS, and we went 1:47:57.040 --> 1:47:59.360 to CBS. I'm just leaving, timmy boy. I'm just leaving 1:47:59.400 --> 1:48:00.960 all this shit. I didn't want to be friends with 1:48:01.040 --> 1:48:03.639 nobody else. Not because I didn't want to be friends 1:48:03.680 --> 1:48:06.560 with them, but because this is a lot of investment. 1:48:06.920 --> 1:48:09.240 When you when you when you signed to a label, 1:48:09.360 --> 1:48:12.080 you start doing business with people, you start to like them, 1:48:12.400 --> 1:48:14.200 and then you don't know that they will be traded 1:48:14.240 --> 1:48:16.840 the next day, They'll be in Nebraska the next day, 1:48:16.920 --> 1:48:18.960 and then I have to sit there. You don't want 1:48:18.960 --> 1:48:20.400 to be friends anymore, So I don't want to be 1:48:20.479 --> 1:48:22.559 friends in build them no more like so like it's 1:48:22.640 --> 1:48:26.280 like because I started to understand business. When I was young, 1:48:27.000 --> 1:48:31.040 I understood friendship. I didn't understand business. I wanted to 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:33.560 be friends with everybody. But when I got older, I 1:48:33.720 --> 1:48:36.920 was like, fuck being friends. Let me get my check. 1:48:37.439 --> 1:48:41.240 And that's it. It doesn't mean that I'm not friendly, 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:43.800 doesn't mean but what it is is I'm more of 1:48:43.880 --> 1:48:44.639 a business man. 1:48:44.760 --> 1:48:47.200 No, I could still be your friend. I'm gonna find 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:50.639 out if you're going to be my friend. That's where 1:48:50.720 --> 1:48:53.479 it's at because now it's just for me to own 1:48:53.600 --> 1:48:57.080 up to let me stop harboring these feelings that might 1:48:57.400 --> 1:49:00.320 I think it's going to affect the friendship that I 1:49:00.439 --> 1:49:03.160 think I shouldn't say that I feel is right for 1:49:03.280 --> 1:49:05.320 me and man, and I feel like I say what's 1:49:05.400 --> 1:49:08.639 right for me. The person who feel like I'm saying 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:11.880 some foul shit, it's not my friend. 1:49:12.040 --> 1:49:12.200 Yep. 1:49:13.120 --> 1:49:16.280 And we got to remember the history of this industry, 1:49:16.720 --> 1:49:20.800 the music industry, it's always been a racket. Yeah, a 1:49:21.000 --> 1:49:25.160 racket at the club, not like the club, but like 1:49:25.200 --> 1:49:27.080 the club, actually like the club. 1:49:28.880 --> 1:49:30.599 That's the foundation of the music industry. 1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:32.200 And I'll tell people to go do your history and 1:49:32.280 --> 1:49:34.479 understand it and when you understand where it comes from, 1:49:35.200 --> 1:49:36.680 the evils that come from that. 1:49:36.800 --> 1:49:38.400 You know, we understand. 1:49:38.479 --> 1:49:40.880 I mean me and Dress we've talked on this and 1:49:41.000 --> 1:49:44.080 we actually yeah, and we've said, like, yo, man, if. 1:49:46.400 --> 1:49:53.080 A if a label was just fair, fair far. 1:49:54.680 --> 1:49:57.880 Cats would be millionaires if they were just fair right, 1:49:59.000 --> 1:50:03.160 throwing out the overks thin yourself, just fair right. But 1:50:04.320 --> 1:50:07.320 business is not about being fair. Business is about being business. 1:50:07.400 --> 1:50:10.080 It's like a chess game almost what you negotiated with, Yeah, 1:50:10.800 --> 1:50:11.360 what you get? 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:12.120 You know what I'm saying. 1:50:12.200 --> 1:50:16.320 So this chess and it's Othello, you know how we 1:50:16.400 --> 1:50:18.639 got to move amongst the game of deception. 1:50:18.960 --> 1:50:21.960 Yeah? So like you said, like we could be young, Yo, 1:50:23.040 --> 1:50:23.800 I know this dude. 1:50:23.920 --> 1:50:26.519 Yeah, he's gonna come in here, he's gonna want the girls, 1:50:26.720 --> 1:50:30.680 he's gonna want the tims and all that bullshit. And 1:50:30.800 --> 1:50:32.840 it just taken everything from you. You know what I'm saying, 1:50:32.920 --> 1:50:36.040 because they see that you want the glory of it all. 1:50:36.080 --> 1:50:36.679 You know what I'm saying. 1:50:36.720 --> 1:50:39.160 You want the bitches, you want the call, you want 1:50:39.200 --> 1:50:42.080 to and you get nothing. You want analytics. Yeah, and 1:50:42.160 --> 1:50:43.280 you won't read the fine print. 1:50:43.560 --> 1:50:47.160 Yeah, and then and a lot of times even where 1:50:47.400 --> 1:50:51.800 even with us when you were look, let's. 1:50:51.680 --> 1:50:54.639 Make sure we have a lawyer. Yo, they had that covered. 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:55.760 The lawyer was down with them. 1:50:55.840 --> 1:50:58.040 Niggay man, that's what's fucked up. 1:50:59.000 --> 1:51:05.880 You know what I'm saying, Cohoo's with each other that 1:51:05.960 --> 1:51:09.479 one more time the lawyer was in co who's with 1:51:09.560 --> 1:51:10.519 the fucking labels? 1:51:12.160 --> 1:51:15.920 Everybody is in the close of the deal. If you're 1:51:15.960 --> 1:51:18.960 not paying your lawyer straight out your pocket, win or lose, 1:51:19.479 --> 1:51:22.360 he's trying to get his bread off the clothes of 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:25.920 the deal. And if everybody's moving on a percentage base, 1:51:26.240 --> 1:51:28.240 you have the more money that's on the table. So 1:51:28.320 --> 1:51:30.840 if I could convince you to give up your publishing 1:51:31.000 --> 1:51:34.080 for your for more cash, it's more money on top 1:51:34.120 --> 1:51:37.640 of my percentage as opposed to what can protect. 1:51:38.280 --> 1:51:40.960 If you understand, you know what I'm saying, Holy. 1:51:40.920 --> 1:51:43.760 Supposed to what can really protect my client? So my 1:51:43.880 --> 1:51:46.479 client can have a longevity and I can have as 1:51:46.520 --> 1:51:49.720 a lawyer longevity with my damn client. But nobody ever 1:51:49.800 --> 1:51:51.679 really saw it like that, you know what I'm saying. 1:51:51.880 --> 1:51:53.840 First of all, when we came in, an't respect the 1:51:53.880 --> 1:51:56.040 ship to even make it around the block, you know 1:51:56.040 --> 1:51:59.400 what I'm saying. So you know, we was projected sales 1:51:59.439 --> 1:52:04.920 at somewhere like what fifty thousand units three ft behind rising. 1:52:05.040 --> 1:52:08.720 That's so, you know, but what the beauty I could say, 1:52:08.800 --> 1:52:12.240 in the entire relationship, we had no creative hole. 1:52:12.600 --> 1:52:12.760 You know. 1:52:13.600 --> 1:52:16.560 You know most artists got the label gotten away of 1:52:16.760 --> 1:52:19.360 the records they made. You know, Tommy Boy didn't getting 1:52:19.360 --> 1:52:21.360 away of that. How they did get in the way 1:52:21.560 --> 1:52:24.200 if they wasn't feeling something like naming your album day 1:52:24.240 --> 1:52:26.639 Los Soul is dead, they'll pull back on the budget 1:52:26.680 --> 1:52:29.840 they're promoting. You know what I'm saying. But you know, 1:52:30.280 --> 1:52:33.880 we do what we did to supersede to be us, you. 1:52:33.920 --> 1:52:34.439 Know what I'm saying. 1:52:34.680 --> 1:52:36.479 Like I said, man, and I'm sorry to cut you, 1:52:36.560 --> 1:52:41.280 but ain't about harder that dude. I mean, like it's 1:52:41.360 --> 1:52:45.400 not oh ship, but it's it's really not, man. It's 1:52:45.560 --> 1:52:47.519 just about we are where. 1:52:47.320 --> 1:52:52.040 We are, not even just him though it's not a systematic. 1:52:51.880 --> 1:52:54.160 You know, it is systema not the same thing. 1:52:54.280 --> 1:52:56.439 We are another tired with a different rim. 1:52:56.760 --> 1:52:59.080 And even some of these label exits, they not they 1:52:59.120 --> 1:53:01.200 don't even know what it is is because it's something 1:53:01.240 --> 1:53:01.880 that was just following. 1:53:02.120 --> 1:53:05.000 It's been ongoing forever. It seems like this is business as. 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:06.200 Usual, standard practice. 1:53:06.280 --> 1:53:07.640 Yeah, I was following what you did. 1:53:08.040 --> 1:53:10.960 A lawyer might even tell his client, Hey, this is 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:14.200 what it is. But you're dealing with oftentimes young artists 1:53:14.680 --> 1:53:17.320 like I just want to get the deal. Yeah, you know, 1:53:17.439 --> 1:53:19.120 but but if you look back, if you really look 1:53:19.160 --> 1:53:22.040 at it, you're you're still exploiting a young mind. You 1:53:22.080 --> 1:53:22.519 know what I'm saying. 1:53:22.600 --> 1:53:25.719 It's all circumstantial. It's where you we are in your life, 1:53:26.040 --> 1:53:28.080 you know what I'm saying. If you just working McDonald's, 1:53:28.080 --> 1:53:31.040 were hustling on the block, that deal, that's. 1:53:31.600 --> 1:53:32.320 It's a life change. 1:53:32.880 --> 1:53:36.559 You just if you just expect to grow. 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:39.000 All of us is dumb because we all kind of 1:53:39.200 --> 1:53:42.880 knew that it wasn't the right thing to do. But 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.200 we're like, yo, we're going to fix it the next album. 1:53:45.320 --> 1:53:46.000 Right right. 1:53:46.439 --> 1:53:49.400 Yes, you always do feeling that you could renegotiate it 1:53:49.479 --> 1:53:52.439 in a sense, and which is in my case. We 1:53:52.560 --> 1:53:56.880 had component Noriega, then Copone went to jail. I was 1:53:56.960 --> 1:53:58.640 forced to do a solo album. I wasn't going to 1:53:58.680 --> 1:54:00.840 be a solo you know what I'm saying. So I 1:54:00.960 --> 1:54:02.519 was forced to do it, and it worked out for 1:54:02.600 --> 1:54:04.240 me in the long run. But if I had that 1:54:04.360 --> 1:54:06.559 that not happened, I would have been signing this Coon 1:54:06.680 --> 1:54:09.439 nor Jega for life. Yeah all right, I'm sorry. I 1:54:09.680 --> 1:54:14.599 did not read that ship at all. You want penalty penalty? Yes, 1:54:15.600 --> 1:54:18.800 like over there with Ian Well, I was with Neil Levin. 1:54:19.120 --> 1:54:19.559 Oh Neil. 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:19.840 Yeah. 1:54:21.320 --> 1:54:26.679 Actually I love Neil to me, and Neil always still cool. 1:54:26.800 --> 1:54:31.719 It's still cool to this day. He's he's probably cheapest 1:54:31.720 --> 1:54:35.840 person I ever met. But he's also fought for me 1:54:36.480 --> 1:54:38.640 because when I it was it was a time where 1:54:38.680 --> 1:54:40.600 you had to have a Hype Williams video or you're 1:54:40.640 --> 1:54:43.640 not going platinum. And I needed a hype Williams video. 1:54:43.960 --> 1:54:47.080 And I remember Tom would never do a Hype Williams. 1:54:47.240 --> 1:54:50.440 Yeah I did, I got I got it. I got 1:54:50.480 --> 1:54:54.920 that budget of the crack. I got so and I 1:54:55.680 --> 1:54:58.320 remember this. I remember this like it was yesterday. Hay 1:54:58.440 --> 1:55:03.360 Williams caused me and goes, uh, book a room at 1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:05.800 the Trump So I go, all right, this is the 1:55:05.880 --> 1:55:13.960 time where Trump was not racist. Man, that wasn't ready. 1:55:18.200 --> 1:55:21.680 So he wanted the politicians. He want a politicians. So 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:25.400 Ike Williams just like the rich guy he was at 1:55:25.440 --> 1:55:28.040 the time and he is still probably. He said, book 1:55:28.080 --> 1:55:29.400 a room of the Trump. So I didn't know what 1:55:29.480 --> 1:55:31.040 to do. I just booked the room at the Trumps. 1:55:32.040 --> 1:55:37.520 He said, he comes, shows up. He says, yo, let's 1:55:37.560 --> 1:55:40.760 call Roy Jones and I said, it's called Roy Jones. 1:55:41.280 --> 1:55:43.400 He's like, yo, I think Roy Jones needs to be 1:55:43.480 --> 1:55:46.120 in your video and he needs to be boxing in 1:55:46.200 --> 1:55:48.880 your video. So I was like, all right, cool, I've 1:55:48.960 --> 1:55:51.040 never called Rode James before in my life. So calling 1:55:51.160 --> 1:55:55.040 Roy Jones is at the Trump Hotel. So Roy Jones goes, what, 1:55:56.360 --> 1:55:58.280 you ain't gotta fake my fight because he's like, yo, fight. 1:55:58.360 --> 1:56:00.200 He's like, yo, I want to fake a fight, like 1:56:00.240 --> 1:56:02.120 you know what. He's like this, how this how, this 1:56:02.160 --> 1:56:05.000 is how hot Rory was at the time. Boy was like, 1:56:05.280 --> 1:56:08.000 you ain't gotta fake a fight. I gotta fight in 1:56:08.040 --> 1:56:10.320 two weeks. Y'all gonna come and film it. He was like, 1:56:10.400 --> 1:56:12.600 but in my mind, I'm like, what if he lose, 1:56:13.320 --> 1:56:15.400 Like I don't want to footage him lose it. Like 1:56:15.480 --> 1:56:18.320 I didn't know what And Rory was that confident, oh yeah, 1:56:18.760 --> 1:56:21.720 and he said no man, we were doing and he 1:56:21.920 --> 1:56:27.000 was we went and oh man, he showed out that 1:56:27.200 --> 1:56:32.120 night this first time HBO cameras in that wasn't HBO cameras, 1:56:32.520 --> 1:56:35.120 and Rory fought for me. So Roy Jones revery, I 1:56:35.240 --> 1:56:35.920 owe you, brother. 1:56:36.720 --> 1:56:36.760 You. 1:56:39.160 --> 1:56:42.280 I told Indyo Champ, you gotta relax. I told him 1:56:42.280 --> 1:56:45.040 he gotta relax. That's my friend in Dyo Champ. You 1:56:45.080 --> 1:56:49.680 gotta relax. You cannot hurt Roy Jones. Better not better 1:56:49.880 --> 1:56:55.320 not Indio. You better not big up a Roy Jones. Man, 1:56:55.360 --> 1:56:56.360 I love it, Bob Man. 1:56:56.520 --> 1:56:59.520 Yeah, man, hip hop. Hip hop has been good to us. 1:56:59.640 --> 1:57:01.680 We've obviously great to me. 1:57:02.080 --> 1:57:02.280 Yeah. 1:57:02.360 --> 1:57:06.560 Man, Like even in talking QUI since we talking about it, 1:57:06.600 --> 1:57:09.920 even with Tommy Boy man, Yo, Monica lynch Man, she 1:57:10.080 --> 1:57:12.880 held us down over there. Yeah, she was a shining 1:57:12.960 --> 1:57:15.760 light over there. And there's a lot of other great 1:57:15.880 --> 1:57:18.480 people over there that did right by it, you know 1:57:18.480 --> 1:57:18.960 what I'm saying. 1:57:19.040 --> 1:57:22.320 So like honestly, like even tom was once the business 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:24.880 was done, he had some dope ideas, you know what 1:57:24.920 --> 1:57:33.960 I'm saying. You know now then yeah, you know, like 1:57:34.080 --> 1:57:35.440 there was a lot of great times. 1:57:35.520 --> 1:57:37.960 You know, we just grew up, man, and we just 1:57:38.040 --> 1:57:39.880 grew up and was like, yo, man, this is what 1:57:40.080 --> 1:57:40.320 it is. 1:57:40.520 --> 1:57:43.280 This is unfair. Mind you, we had already been fighting 1:57:43.360 --> 1:57:46.320 to get what we need to get. He got hold 1:57:46.400 --> 1:57:49.760 of it, he got everything back. We obviously all know 1:57:49.920 --> 1:57:52.640 that it can be said that Tom got everything back 1:57:52.720 --> 1:57:56.520 to this flip it right, got he sold it? Yeah, 1:57:57.200 --> 1:57:58.200 you know, he lost it. 1:57:59.560 --> 1:57:59.880 Tell us. 1:58:00.200 --> 1:58:03.400 I'm just trying to say, like, yes, I lost I 1:58:03.560 --> 1:58:04.400 was going to hold that. 1:58:05.040 --> 1:58:06.200 So please let me. 1:58:08.120 --> 1:58:10.320 Completely understand everything Tom had lost. 1:58:11.760 --> 1:58:13.040 We're not talking about I. 1:58:13.000 --> 1:58:14.200 Don't know about no bangship. 1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:16.280 I'm just trying to say that he lost the catalog, 1:58:16.800 --> 1:58:20.040 lost the catalog to because he had owed money to 1:58:20.120 --> 1:58:22.120 them and he had to pay it back a certain 1:58:22.160 --> 1:58:24.680 amount of time. It came out that he didn't pay 1:58:24.720 --> 1:58:26.280 it back in a certain amount of times. So Warner 1:58:26.360 --> 1:58:30.160 Brothers took the label. So that's why we had the. 1:58:30.600 --> 1:58:33.480 Middle of us having bionics around the time and all 1:58:33.520 --> 1:58:36.840 of that. You know, my man, My only gright with him, man, 1:58:37.000 --> 1:58:39.120 is that he wasn't the one to come sit us 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:42.280 down to tell us this transition that was happening. 1:58:42.440 --> 1:58:43.440 Yeah, he actually. 1:58:44.760 --> 1:58:47.760 Yeah, well before it was about to go, I mean, wait, 1:58:47.800 --> 1:58:51.160 we sent it against I'm sorry, before whatever went down. 1:58:52.200 --> 1:58:56.400 We actually re signed once we was doing these triple 1:58:56.440 --> 1:59:01.280 albums we were finished. We actually was re signing with him, 1:59:01.920 --> 1:59:05.440 but unfortunately finding out that when he lost the label. 1:59:05.480 --> 1:59:07.680 When we found out that, okay, so the label's going 1:59:07.760 --> 1:59:10.000 to go to Warner, We're not going to be in 1:59:10.040 --> 1:59:17.879 a WEIS system any any label, whether it can grab Daylight, 1:59:18.280 --> 1:59:20.480 grab House of Pain or whatever. And that's what started 1:59:20.480 --> 1:59:23.320 happening is Sylvia or Rone wanted us on Electra. We 1:59:23.480 --> 1:59:26.920 was going to Electra. She wanted Timblin to do the 1:59:26.960 --> 1:59:29.440 whole album. We was like, we don't want that. We 1:59:29.520 --> 1:59:31.320 don't mind a few tracks, we just don't want them 1:59:31.320 --> 1:59:34.760 to do the whole album. And then certain money we wanted. 1:59:34.800 --> 1:59:37.800 We was like, if we sit down, So I knew 1:59:37.880 --> 1:59:41.880 Sylvia do My brother Rene McClean, Corey Smith, who was 1:59:41.960 --> 1:59:42.760 managers knew us. 1:59:43.120 --> 1:59:46.520 She was like, look man Corey Smith who manages Das Belle. 1:59:46.920 --> 1:59:49.080 Yeah, So we was like yeah. 1:59:49.280 --> 1:59:49.960 We were just like. 1:59:52.920 --> 1:59:54.680 She was just like, look, I just want y'all to 1:59:54.680 --> 1:59:56.560 be happy with whatever, go down, y'all don't got to 1:59:56.600 --> 1:59:56.880 come here. 1:59:56.960 --> 1:59:57.920 So we didn't wind up going there. 1:59:58.000 --> 1:59:59.960 Then it looked like Atlantic wanted us to go over there, 2:00:00.160 --> 2:00:02.600 so we wound up just telling Warner like yo, we 2:00:02.720 --> 2:00:05.640 just want out right, they was cool, they let us go. 2:00:06.520 --> 2:00:08.000 We just want them to be able to go out 2:00:08.040 --> 2:00:08.720 and do our own thing. 2:00:09.720 --> 2:00:13.520 So, I mean, you know, it's just being young and 2:00:13.640 --> 2:00:15.920 even being older, sometimes you just don't know what's going 2:00:16.000 --> 2:00:18.920 on in the business side of things because it's not you. 2:00:19.200 --> 2:00:21.840 You know, even when from their standpoint. 2:00:21.400 --> 2:00:25.680 You know, and once you get hold of learning your 2:00:25.760 --> 2:00:30.640 contracts and you're into having a family and personal life, 2:00:30.720 --> 2:00:34.440 you you still end up making some decisions that you 2:00:34.520 --> 2:00:37.800 feel you need to protect your foundation. You know, it's 2:00:37.840 --> 2:00:41.800 a certain sacrifices you make in because of the other 2:00:41.880 --> 2:00:44.560 two people in the group. You go think, let alone 2:00:44.560 --> 2:00:47.200 the family you know, just built, you know what I'm saying. 2:00:48.320 --> 2:00:51.800 And at the time, you know, for me, I felt like, yeah, 2:00:51.920 --> 2:00:56.360 we're making certain compromises and sacrifices just to keep this 2:00:56.600 --> 2:00:59.240 thing we built going, you know, and being a part 2:00:59.280 --> 2:01:02.040 of this whole thing and care hip hop that actually 2:01:02.080 --> 2:01:05.720 feeds our families. Man, you know what I mean? You know, So, 2:01:06.680 --> 2:01:11.240 but yeah, times changed, things moved along, he lost the catalog, 2:01:11.640 --> 2:01:14.520 we figured out how to still keep going. Wow. And 2:01:14.720 --> 2:01:17.400 that says still like in learning the business from the 2:01:17.440 --> 2:01:20.120 time where you feel like you stuck up until that moment. 2:01:20.240 --> 2:01:20.920 You learn a lot. 2:01:21.080 --> 2:01:21.240 Man. 2:01:21.320 --> 2:01:23.960 You know you can't for a person for learning so 2:01:24.120 --> 2:01:26.520 much to know where they can figure out, not how 2:01:26.560 --> 2:01:28.800 to strategize. Where you got where they got their barking 2:01:28.880 --> 2:01:29.280 in power. 2:01:29.720 --> 2:01:32.320 Let me ask you, because when he lost the catalog 2:01:32.520 --> 2:01:34.320 and got it back it went to Warner. Did he 2:01:34.360 --> 2:01:34.920 get it back? 2:01:35.280 --> 2:01:37.400 He got it back, He got it back years later, 2:01:37.760 --> 2:01:41.120 years later he paid for I don't know how. 2:01:41.360 --> 2:01:42.000 How he got it. 2:01:42.760 --> 2:01:45.120 It's even when warners, how did we were trying to 2:01:45.200 --> 2:01:47.920 get it. We weren't even trying to get it. We 2:01:48.000 --> 2:01:49.800 were just trying to get them to put it up 2:01:51.120 --> 2:01:54.560 when we were still lacking knowledge in business, just wanting 2:01:54.640 --> 2:01:56.680 the catalog up. And maybe. 2:01:58.400 --> 2:02:00.480 When you say up for sale or up for sure, 2:02:02.480 --> 2:02:06.880 because you remember, like all that was for streamings, for 2:02:06.920 --> 2:02:09.760 saying we missed so you could get the royalties off. 2:02:11.240 --> 2:02:15.520 So even at that point, Rhino Wanna was allowing Rhino 2:02:15.720 --> 2:02:18.000 to work out stuff. We did the live from Tramp's 2:02:18.040 --> 2:02:23.280 album whatever. But then when wait a minute, this infraction, 2:02:23.440 --> 2:02:24.360 as Mace would say. 2:02:24.320 --> 2:02:24.760 Is coming in. 2:02:25.200 --> 2:02:28.520 You know you owe you, you didn't you didn't clear 2:02:28.600 --> 2:02:29.520 potholes in my lawn. 2:02:29.560 --> 2:02:31.640 You didn't clear this sample so that's been want to 2:02:31.760 --> 2:02:35.240 shelf everything, So were trying to work it out with them. 2:02:35.280 --> 2:02:36.840 At one point Leo Cohen was over there. 2:02:36.960 --> 2:02:40.160 Leo was li was our ex manager, you know, well 2:02:40.240 --> 2:02:43.720 manage our rush managements. Simmons and Leo. You try to 2:02:43.760 --> 2:02:46.840 work it out. But then at one point and leaving, 2:02:46.920 --> 2:02:50.240 he went leaving and the new people come in. So 2:02:50.320 --> 2:02:52.000 it was all that type of stuff going on. Man, 2:02:52.040 --> 2:02:54.760 it was just a long period of us trying to 2:02:54.800 --> 2:02:57.840 put it up. We had I don't really say their names, 2:02:57.920 --> 2:02:59.960 but we had like a streaming company. At one point 2:03:00.280 --> 2:03:04.720 was like, yo, we'll pay for everything. We'll fix everything. 2:03:06.600 --> 2:03:10.360 Allow us to fix everything. We'll pay for everything. We 2:03:10.520 --> 2:03:13.200 told warn us like yo, this streaming company will pay 2:03:13.280 --> 2:03:14.640 for everything, fix everything. 2:03:15.000 --> 2:03:16.680 They still wouldn't bite. 2:03:17.480 --> 2:03:22.000 At that point, I felt like somebody was waiting for 2:03:22.160 --> 2:03:23.920 him to get it together, to get it back. 2:03:24.040 --> 2:03:29.400 Yeah, for him, he came reached out to us. He 2:03:29.520 --> 2:03:31.360 had got it, He got everything back. 2:03:31.480 --> 2:03:33.560 But what I'm just trying to say, in hindsight, he 2:03:33.720 --> 2:03:35.960 was getting every even thing back just to flip it. 2:03:37.040 --> 2:03:37.520 Just to sell it. 2:03:37.600 --> 2:03:37.840 It was. 2:03:39.400 --> 2:03:40.920 He didn't care about who. 2:03:40.920 --> 2:03:44.920 Knows, who knows Because I honestly, when he was trying 2:03:45.040 --> 2:03:47.720 to get us to do it. It seemed like he 2:03:47.880 --> 2:03:50.640 was looking to put put it all out he wanted 2:03:51.960 --> 2:03:56.240 when he sent to everybody these generic emails that kind 2:03:56.280 --> 2:03:59.920 of reverted back to contracts that were like eighty eight 2:04:00.160 --> 2:04:02.200 eighty nine that we weren't even doing with him in 2:04:02.320 --> 2:04:05.360 two thousand. You know what I mean? It was Yeah, 2:04:05.400 --> 2:04:08.080 well y'are seeing it all. We posted it all man, 2:04:08.760 --> 2:04:16.080 you know it was interesting, but it was him, Like I. 2:04:16.160 --> 2:04:18.400 Said, Man, honestly, do you guys think it was all 2:04:18.440 --> 2:04:19.480 worth it was? 2:04:19.520 --> 2:04:19.560 What? 2:04:19.960 --> 2:04:20.640 Was it all worth it? 2:04:22.600 --> 2:04:25.920 It definitely was worth it. He learned so much. Yeah, 2:04:26.120 --> 2:04:29.600 I thank God for real, dog, you know, this is 2:04:29.680 --> 2:04:33.160 an extreme blessing. This is like, don't happen in a 2:04:33.240 --> 2:04:37.360 million years. I know what we went through even with 2:04:37.520 --> 2:04:41.640 each other. Yeah, where we almost caved into that fucking shit, 2:04:41.760 --> 2:04:44.120 you know what I'm saying. So you know, it's truly 2:04:44.160 --> 2:04:46.320 a blessing from God, and I'm gonna give it all 2:04:46.400 --> 2:04:49.720 the graces to God. Real straight up, I think. 2:04:49.640 --> 2:04:50.640 We can make his noise of God. 2:04:54.960 --> 2:04:55.120 Nah. 2:04:55.240 --> 2:04:59.440 Man, I'm gonna be honest man, like it's a beautiful. 2:04:59.480 --> 2:05:01.520 It's a beautif and it's not the ending. I don't 2:05:01.520 --> 2:05:04.440 want to say this is the ending, because I feel 2:05:04.480 --> 2:05:07.200 like you guys got a whole other legacy that rehearse. 2:05:08.040 --> 2:05:11.160 And the thing about it is, it's not like we're 2:05:11.160 --> 2:05:13.960 playing football. It's not like we're playing boxing. We can 2:05:14.080 --> 2:05:15.440 do this ship for the rest of our life. 2:05:15.440 --> 2:05:16.280 You go on. 2:05:16.800 --> 2:05:19.360 So I would love to hear that New Day Live album. 2:05:19.960 --> 2:05:22.760 I really love about being a part of it. 2:05:23.280 --> 2:05:25.480 Come on, send me a joint, Send me a joint, 2:05:35.000 --> 2:05:37.400 because y'all truly deserve it, man, Like I can't see 2:05:39.720 --> 2:05:43.360 you know anybody deserve it more than you guys, Like 2:05:43.600 --> 2:05:45.520 you know what I mean. You guys have been lawyer 2:05:45.600 --> 2:05:50.320 to hip hop. You gave us your whole life. Like 2:05:50.440 --> 2:05:54.120 I don't remember not hearing the Day Soul track, Like 2:05:55.000 --> 2:05:58.760 I don't remember not hearing so what y'all did, what 2:05:58.920 --> 2:06:04.440 y'all contributed, it's warranted. I wanted to know this noticed. 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:07.880 You guys are really one of the greatest, greatest groups 2:06:07.920 --> 2:06:10.520 of all time. The fact that you got your rights 2:06:10.600 --> 2:06:15.440 back really really, it's a beautiful story, man, It really 2:06:15.600 --> 2:06:19.400 truly is because you guys deserve it, and everybody, yeah, 2:06:19.880 --> 2:06:23.480 you guys deserve that, appreciate it. I'm happy for y'all. Man, 2:06:24.120 --> 2:06:26.840 y'all happy for your family. I wish you know, God 2:06:26.880 --> 2:06:29.840 bless Dave got to see, you know, more of it, 2:06:32.360 --> 2:06:39.480 and man wanted to show y'all that love. Man, you 2:06:40.040 --> 2:06:43.440 got more. I got a couple more notes. Let's go 2:06:45.440 --> 2:06:47.040 cold on Brett barras. 2:06:48.360 --> 2:06:48.640 Around. 2:06:49.040 --> 2:06:53.160 Yeah, but how much of for a new daylight project, 2:06:53.960 --> 2:06:56.200 how much of Dave's vocals would be involved in it. 2:06:57.600 --> 2:07:00.760 I mean, there's a bunch of stuff. I've been trying 2:07:00.880 --> 2:07:08.800 to get everything from his crib, this stuff there, but yeah, 2:07:08.840 --> 2:07:11.120 I'm not pushing anything. If it don't work, it don't work. 2:07:11.160 --> 2:07:13.720 I mean, sometimes we got to realize the reason why 2:07:13.880 --> 2:07:17.160 certain things were never put to light because they they 2:07:17.240 --> 2:07:20.400 weren't of the quality of what the person wanted. I 2:07:20.560 --> 2:07:23.160 really do feel that people sometimes need to realize that 2:07:25.120 --> 2:07:27.000 there's a lot of great producers. There's a lot of 2:07:27.000 --> 2:07:29.920 great MC's who we've lost, and a lot of times 2:07:29.960 --> 2:07:33.080 people just start bastardizing their ships, throwing it up, putting 2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:35.840 this out, and sometimes some of that shit wasn't meant 2:07:35.880 --> 2:07:38.360 to come out for a reason. So, I mean, it's 2:07:38.400 --> 2:07:41.360 the same with Dave's vocals. There's a bunch of stuff 2:07:41.880 --> 2:07:44.240 that I know he would just do when he felt 2:07:44.280 --> 2:07:47.240 the ghosts and wrote and if it works, it works. 2:07:47.280 --> 2:07:48.200 If it don't, it don't. 2:07:48.280 --> 2:07:48.440 Man. 2:07:48.760 --> 2:07:50.440 You know what I'm saying, We ain't gonna force anything. 2:07:50.760 --> 2:07:51.280 You know what I'm saying. 2:07:51.560 --> 2:07:54.840 I respect that does you don't have to answer if 2:07:54.880 --> 2:07:58.560 you don't want to. But moving on the Daylight as 2:07:58.600 --> 2:08:03.040 a group as a brand, does his family are they 2:08:03.360 --> 2:08:03.920 a part of that? 2:08:04.600 --> 2:08:05.040 Yeah? 2:08:05.280 --> 2:08:06.680 Definitely, definitely for sure. 2:08:07.800 --> 2:08:10.960 Question yeah, because I know that gets complicated with people 2:08:11.000 --> 2:08:15.040 and it kid creates a weird I mean, it's crazy 2:08:15.160 --> 2:08:16.080 because I can say it. 2:08:16.840 --> 2:08:19.720 We literally had put together the contracts to make sure 2:08:19.760 --> 2:08:22.160 that was right four days before this niggas left. 2:08:22.600 --> 2:08:28.440 Wow literally and like like sometimes like I see like 2:08:28.520 --> 2:08:33.080 Havoc right, Havoc will go out and he'll call it 2:08:33.200 --> 2:08:37.160 mob Deep, but he'll be it'll be DJ L l 2:08:37.160 --> 2:08:42.240 E s, It'll be rapp anoid. Do I still say 2:08:42.560 --> 2:08:43.360 day Soul. 2:08:43.640 --> 2:08:44.600 It's daylight man. 2:08:45.480 --> 2:08:48.560 At the end of the day, Man, I just know 2:08:48.680 --> 2:08:52.600 a lot of a lot of our brothers they miss him. 2:08:52.720 --> 2:08:55.520 So like when when most comes up and like, yo, man, 2:08:55.720 --> 2:08:59.640 I'm down the rock he rocked, you know, thought hit 2:08:59.720 --> 2:09:03.600 me like black thought, Like Yo, man, I'm standing in 2:09:03.680 --> 2:09:04.880 your service, whatever. 2:09:04.640 --> 2:09:05.480 You need say. 2:09:05.960 --> 2:09:06.560 You know what I'm saying. 2:09:06.840 --> 2:09:09.760 Most got an alien brain. He knows everybody's rhynd. 2:09:11.800 --> 2:09:12.440 You know what I'm saying. 2:09:12.560 --> 2:09:16.440 So you know, always came out and represented, you know. 2:09:17.360 --> 2:09:19.200 So that that aspect is there. 2:09:19.400 --> 2:09:21.440 But you know, I call it the. 2:09:21.480 --> 2:09:27.880 Super Friends when we get together because everybody delivered their spirit. Man, 2:09:28.480 --> 2:09:29.800 they make it daylight for them. 2:09:30.200 --> 2:09:32.600 Yeah, and that's a testament to the legacy. 2:09:33.840 --> 2:09:35.960 Now, domind d when are we getting d I T 2:09:36.160 --> 2:09:39.640 C on drink champs? Come on the whole d I 2:09:39.800 --> 2:09:53.200 T E slim y'all now everybody, Yeah, I went the 2:09:53.280 --> 2:09:55.160 whole stories. 2:09:55.600 --> 2:09:58.480 Yes, oh man, that I saw him sitting at the 2:09:58.520 --> 2:09:58.880 wire house. 2:09:59.320 --> 2:10:00.280 You need to be sitting that this. 2:10:00.600 --> 2:10:03.920 You've seen Kamala looking at him looking look at my boy, 2:10:03.960 --> 2:10:08.120 Mad Joe got the vice president looking at him. I 2:10:08.360 --> 2:10:10.600 like the death ship. I ain't never get invited to 2:10:10.600 --> 2:10:13.240 that White House ever. I don't think I'm never going 2:10:13.280 --> 2:10:16.080 to get invited either. I think my invites were You 2:10:16.160 --> 2:10:25.960 never know, we might have drink camps there right very 2:10:26.360 --> 2:10:29.800 because you know I've been very critical on kamalo uh 2:10:30.320 --> 2:10:36.760 and that Sleepy Joe. Just stay up like Sleepy Jo 2:10:45.880 --> 2:10:47.960 was just keep us on the World War three buddies 2:10:49.960 --> 2:10:53.280 kiss caffe, but kiss cafe and is like, he's a 2:10:55.480 --> 2:11:04.160 sleepy joe against that. I ain't gonna lie. He's leaping. 2:11:04.320 --> 2:11:06.600 You know, you know this is how you know. This 2:11:06.680 --> 2:11:09.760 is how you know when the dude is kind of 2:11:09.840 --> 2:11:13.600 fucked up. When you start, you start, you started appreciating Trump. 2:11:13.640 --> 2:11:17.080 You're like, man, I kind of miss drunk. At least 2:11:17.120 --> 2:11:19.440 he came outside. That's what happened with We all want 2:11:19.480 --> 2:11:26.920 to missing Bush. You're like, damn something to say that 2:11:27.000 --> 2:11:29.360 we can't find no younger people in this that that 2:11:29.480 --> 2:11:32.040 want to be in the politics. Let's check something new 2:11:32.120 --> 2:11:35.520 into the political. He didn't even take a munk shot 2:11:35.920 --> 2:11:39.600 who he got arrested without a month shot. He told them, 2:11:39.640 --> 2:11:41.840 if y'all give me my mug shot, I'm making money 2:11:41.880 --> 2:11:42.240 over it. 2:11:42.840 --> 2:11:50.320 So they wouldn't take his What he said, bro, believe 2:11:50.400 --> 2:11:54.640 that I gotta ship. 2:11:54.920 --> 2:11:57.880 Where's the who hell? I'm gonna make money off this ship? 2:11:58.920 --> 2:12:01.000 Give me money? He said, I want my monk shot, 2:12:01.520 --> 2:12:04.320 and they said, you know what, they did a mockery. 2:12:04.440 --> 2:12:06.160 Where's the monkey shot shot? 2:12:06.240 --> 2:12:10.360 Where's no she said somewhere that they ain't getting fingerprinted nothing. 2:12:11.800 --> 2:12:15.800 He got process. He got process, but he got process. 2:12:15.840 --> 2:12:17.200 He had to get fingerprints, and he had to get 2:12:17.200 --> 2:12:20.200 a mon fingerprinted. I don't think you got together that 2:12:21.200 --> 2:12:23.920 don't exist. That monk shot don't exist, Bro, you would 2:12:23.920 --> 2:12:26.400 see it. Mike Tyson has a muck shot. Everybody has 2:12:26.440 --> 2:12:27.720 a monk shot. Jackie Jackson. 2:12:28.520 --> 2:12:31.520 Together, they might have given him some presidential like we're 2:12:31.520 --> 2:12:33.360 gonna put your ship because he threatened him. 2:12:33.360 --> 2:12:36.040 He said I'm going over this. I don't think I'm 2:12:36.160 --> 2:12:41.720 taking and he said he gonna now street, now street 2:12:51.200 --> 2:12:56.640 about three. Yeah, yeah, I gonna lie. He started making 2:12:56.680 --> 2:13:00.600 me like him. You've been liking him, man, did kind of. 2:13:03.480 --> 2:13:05.040 I didn't like the racist ship. I didn't like the 2:13:05.640 --> 2:13:08.400 going at I don't like I don't like anybody reading 2:13:08.640 --> 2:13:11.480 like but but there's certain ship that I do. A 2:13:11.560 --> 2:13:13.800 lot of my friends was rich when Trump was in office. 2:13:15.840 --> 2:13:18.839 I knew no bout niggas with Trump was in office, biting. 2:13:19.320 --> 2:13:22.760 It's a couple of niggas back outside outside. Man, I'm 2:13:22.760 --> 2:13:28.120 sorry looking at me like sleeping Joe alone sleep. I'm sorry. 2:13:28.200 --> 2:13:32.320 I don't do politics, but they ain't inviting us to 2:13:32.320 --> 2:13:34.840 the White House. You got invite into the White House. 2:13:35.520 --> 2:13:38.880 We Yeah, we did the Obama leaving party. That was 2:13:39.480 --> 2:13:41.280 that was that was that was hard. 2:13:41.520 --> 2:13:43.440 That was that was hard. You got to meet. 2:13:43.360 --> 2:13:48.560 Michelle, Yeah, both of them, and both of them they 2:13:48.640 --> 2:13:50.800 seemed like they mad, Yeah mad cool. 2:13:50.960 --> 2:13:52.680 Yeah, he dpted me up everything. 2:13:53.080 --> 2:13:54.560 Wait them. 2:13:56.040 --> 2:14:04.120 Like so like you know, we wound up doing business 2:14:04.200 --> 2:14:07.000 because Michelle Obama want to hear the business you know 2:14:07.000 --> 2:14:09.600 what I'm saying. So we're doing the rhyme Like I 2:14:09.680 --> 2:14:12.160 almost messed up because I'm looking and you know the words. 2:14:12.280 --> 2:14:15.960 I was like, Yo, it's crazy history right there. 2:14:16.400 --> 2:14:19.240 That's dope. That is definitely really dope. Really do we 2:14:19.520 --> 2:14:22.360 never getting invited a way? You never know? You never know, 2:14:23.920 --> 2:14:26.040 you keep shutting them out. He might be like, let's 2:14:26.040 --> 2:14:28.160 do dream chance in the black house. I ain't gonna 2:14:28.160 --> 2:14:32.560 lie to you. Let me stop because you never know. 2:14:32.720 --> 2:14:40.720 MANA hit that hookah? 2:14:45.400 --> 2:14:51.360 What is that marijuana? That's marijuana? Uga, man this whole time? 2:14:55.680 --> 2:14:56.120 What kind of. 2:14:57.920 --> 2:15:01.520 Kia hookah? Some ship should especially. 2:15:01.200 --> 2:15:08.720 Real modern marijuana marijuana. It is marijuana. She got AI. Yeah, 2:15:08.720 --> 2:15:13.960 it looks like it's pretty good talking about AI. What 2:15:14.040 --> 2:15:16.680 do y'all think about? I mean the vocal ship I 2:15:16.760 --> 2:15:20.240 have Biggies Verse over mall Deep Joint. 2:15:20.680 --> 2:15:23.080 But no, but now the new business model is licensing 2:15:23.240 --> 2:15:26.240 your voice so that they can use it, because they're 2:15:26.240 --> 2:15:29.320 gonna be using in any ways. Really, yeah, hear that 2:15:29.480 --> 2:15:32.360 people are making deals that every time it gets used, 2:15:32.360 --> 2:15:34.720 they get fifty percent of the record or some royalty 2:15:34.800 --> 2:15:36.080 rate off of their voice. 2:15:36.960 --> 2:15:40.440 Sounds super dangerous, but but what other choice. It's such 2:15:40.520 --> 2:15:43.640 it gets weird now. Yeah, yeah, I heard Biggie rapping 2:15:43.800 --> 2:15:44.600 Prodigies Verse. 2:15:44.720 --> 2:15:47.200 Yeah, Biggie doing Easy E Records. 2:15:47.440 --> 2:15:52.200 Yeah, I saw Michael Jackson doing uh oh yeah, the 2:15:52.480 --> 2:15:54.120 True the Snoop. 2:15:53.920 --> 2:15:55.280 Dogg, the Joint. 2:15:55.360 --> 2:15:59.000 Yeah right, this is what my niggas, Michael. 2:16:08.280 --> 2:16:09.360 It's scary. 2:16:10.640 --> 2:16:11.800 Michael Jackson doing. 2:16:11.840 --> 2:16:21.160 Yeah Jackson murder. I got it's Michael Jackson. It is 2:16:21.280 --> 2:16:21.880 so crazy. 2:16:23.720 --> 2:16:29.320 Yeah, yeah, I heard the ship. I heard the whole ship. 2:16:29.600 --> 2:16:30.640 Yeah, so what does this? 2:16:31.120 --> 2:16:34.800 What is this ship? I don't know? Like literally just 2:16:34.879 --> 2:16:37.800 got me bad side is how my smoke went and thinking. 2:16:38.840 --> 2:16:39.840 They can take confession. 2:16:40.200 --> 2:16:45.280 Yeah, it's a whole nother side. That's crazy. They make 2:16:45.360 --> 2:16:50.240 phone calls line right up. They could call your kids 2:16:50.280 --> 2:16:53.520 and be like Daddy opened the door for ready, just 2:16:53.600 --> 2:16:53.880 did that. 2:16:54.040 --> 2:16:59.119 They just showed how they're doing something where older people 2:16:59.320 --> 2:17:02.880 like their children are calling them like yo, mom blah 2:17:02.920 --> 2:17:08.760 blah blah, got money. But it's like, yeah, I faking ship. 2:17:10.600 --> 2:17:13.280 So it's not being used for like anything of like use. 2:17:13.400 --> 2:17:13.600 Man. 2:17:14.080 --> 2:17:16.080 By the way, I noticed you ate that whole cake 2:17:16.160 --> 2:17:24.040 yea off of us? Nothing that was That was the 2:17:24.240 --> 2:17:28.160 ultimate fat Boys ship, right, but none of us at 2:17:28.240 --> 2:17:32.119 the table, not even one piece. We like cake too. 2:17:37.440 --> 2:17:39.280 Yeah that was funny as that, man. 2:17:39.760 --> 2:17:42.440 I mean it just even now, I feel like even 2:17:42.600 --> 2:17:44.960 some real hip hop ship, that a ship could be lazy, 2:17:45.120 --> 2:17:47.000 Like you can turn around and be like, damn, I 2:17:47.040 --> 2:17:48.760 got eight records to write to. You can get this 2:17:49.200 --> 2:17:51.720 ship the right man for you, you know what I'm 2:17:51.720 --> 2:17:53.680 saying That right for you. 2:17:55.760 --> 2:17:59.240 Could write scripts, you write a book. I could write it, 2:17:59.320 --> 2:18:03.000 could write it. They could check it out. I see 2:18:03.040 --> 2:18:05.920 the Biggie verse. That's it hurt me. They do. That's 2:18:05.959 --> 2:18:06.520 the smallest. 2:18:06.560 --> 2:18:10.000 That's it's kind of dangerous because yeah, it clones people's 2:18:10.080 --> 2:18:13.199 voices to where it can make up a whole fucking 2:18:13.280 --> 2:18:14.760 cram scene if anything. 2:18:14.920 --> 2:18:17.240 Wo wow, I didn't look at it like that. I 2:18:17.320 --> 2:18:18.800 heard you just say that. I ain't look at it 2:18:18.920 --> 2:18:24.160 like that Holy Moly walked along. It's uh m hmmm, Hello, 2:18:24.280 --> 2:18:31.160 I got that point between AI and the defint. 2:18:30.840 --> 2:18:35.000 Holding somebody for ransom, but cloning somebody's voice saying. 2:18:34.800 --> 2:18:37.400 My hold on. They did that. 2:18:38.120 --> 2:18:45.920 I haven't met Bill Cosby never, No, no, never, We 2:18:46.000 --> 2:18:49.640 would see it, you know. Most obviously work with them. 2:18:49.920 --> 2:18:55.480 Y'all seen y'all seen Most, But we definitely worked with Bill. Yeah, 2:18:55.840 --> 2:19:00.720 acting Wise Cosby Cosby mysteries. Most was like a sidekick 2:19:02.280 --> 2:19:06.600 most acting those man is wild man Most Most. 2:19:06.760 --> 2:19:09.160 I believed him as a doctor. I was gonna go 2:19:09.240 --> 2:19:12.160 see him. Yeah, you didn't see him in the eight ship. 2:19:12.280 --> 2:19:19.400 He was a doctor. I believed black Heart surgeon. I 2:19:19.520 --> 2:19:22.240 believed him him. But earlier I said that, I was 2:19:22.400 --> 2:19:25.920 asked about African Mambada, right, and African body had some 2:19:26.200 --> 2:19:29.480 very serious allegations against him, and I could see certain 2:19:29.560 --> 2:19:36.840 people hold him down. And I can also see certain 2:19:36.879 --> 2:19:40.160 people who just not want to talk about it. Period. 2:19:40.600 --> 2:19:43.800 What what is that type of stance for all three 2:19:43.840 --> 2:19:46.120 of your brothers when you say, because this man did 2:19:46.240 --> 2:19:48.920 do a lot of great things for hip hop, but 2:19:49.040 --> 2:19:53.280 those allegations are kind of crazy. So what do you guys? 2:19:53.680 --> 2:19:56.480 I toured with, man, I never experienced no kind of 2:19:56.560 --> 2:20:00.280 vibe like that whatsoever. You know. For the most part, 2:20:01.040 --> 2:20:03.160 what's still whole dear to me is what I learned, 2:20:03.280 --> 2:20:06.480 you know, from watching as a kid. So I still 2:20:06.520 --> 2:20:10.039 hold them in high regard of all the tenements of peace, unity, 2:20:10.160 --> 2:20:12.280 live and having fun, you know what I mean, and 2:20:12.480 --> 2:20:15.200 everything we actually adopted from the Zula nation, you know. 2:20:15.520 --> 2:20:17.840 And so I don't know any of that other stuff. 2:20:17.879 --> 2:20:22.400 And yeah, the ship is disturbing, you know. I am 2:20:22.600 --> 2:20:26.760 concerned for him, his family and for the victims, you 2:20:26.840 --> 2:20:28.680 know what I'm saying. So I respect that, you know, 2:20:30.600 --> 2:20:34.840 that's where it's at, what he said. Yes, I respect that. 2:20:35.320 --> 2:20:42.120 It's a touchy situation. Yeah, you know, this is it 2:20:42.280 --> 2:20:43.960 it really, it really is, you know what I'm saying. 2:20:44.080 --> 2:20:49.560 But you know, over this entertainment, we are still real people, man, 2:20:50.360 --> 2:20:55.520 and you know, people live lives and something. You know, 2:20:56.040 --> 2:21:01.039 I've remember a quote from Hillary Clinton. Every family has 2:21:01.120 --> 2:21:05.080 the dysfunctions. You know what I'm saying is that she got. 2:21:06.760 --> 2:21:10.240 Yeah the mono, Yeah, big of Hillary, Glen. That was 2:21:10.320 --> 2:21:16.760 hard drink yet Hillary big enough just just dist yoke, 2:21:19.440 --> 2:21:27.040 real ship, you know. So man, you know what is 2:21:27.080 --> 2:21:37.200 going on the quarter drink. You know what I'm saying, right, So, yeah, 2:21:38.320 --> 2:21:43.200 but because we received you know, yeah, I leave alone. 2:21:43.240 --> 2:21:49.520 Let's all right now, you don't want to put the 2:21:49.560 --> 2:21:52.160 rubber on there. You're just going he's going raw metal. 2:21:54.360 --> 2:21:58.199 He's raw metal. I see you, I see you, everybody. 2:21:58.320 --> 2:22:00.959 I see You're gonna shoot the video now, all right? Yeah, Yes, 2:22:01.040 --> 2:22:05.720 I got god like one more that we're gonna get 2:22:05.920 --> 2:22:08.119 remember my ship drinks. 2:22:09.200 --> 2:22:09.760 I'll get through it. 2:22:10.240 --> 2:22:10.880 I know, I know it. 2:22:12.600 --> 2:22:15.320 We spoke about I don't know. We spoke about me, 2:22:15.440 --> 2:22:20.440 myself and early. But I want to go into depth 2:22:21.160 --> 2:22:28.879 about that record. Mm hmmm. Where where was you at 2:22:28.920 --> 2:22:30.680 when you when y'all wrote that record? 2:22:32.160 --> 2:22:34.080 Mentally, we didn't give it. We didn't care. 2:22:36.360 --> 2:22:37.800 I mean, were y'all doing it? Like? 2:22:37.920 --> 2:22:40.720 Was it just y'all walking around me? We had put 2:22:40.800 --> 2:22:43.760 together this album that was what it needed to be. 2:22:44.000 --> 2:22:46.640 We we thought it was a great album. Tell Me 2:22:46.680 --> 2:22:49.000 Boy was like. They loved it. They loved everything. They 2:22:49.080 --> 2:22:51.640 loved the fact that we could pull from the song 2:22:51.720 --> 2:22:54.840 called I Know and put you know, Steally Dan in it. 2:22:54.920 --> 2:22:56.920 They love how we could put from this song say 2:22:57.000 --> 2:22:59.680 No Go and take all the notes. 2:22:59.480 --> 2:23:00.280 But also Matt. 2:23:00.760 --> 2:23:02.160 Sorry to cut you, but they loved all of that 2:23:02.240 --> 2:23:04.640 without them wanting to try to look into clearing the sample. 2:23:04.720 --> 2:23:12.360 They I'm just saying they appreciated, they. 2:23:10.680 --> 2:23:11.280 Loved it all. 2:23:12.040 --> 2:23:15.039 But then they came to us like, Yo, we need. 2:23:16.440 --> 2:23:19.879 Something to jump off with, Like we need like something 2:23:19.959 --> 2:23:22.760 that's going to be the kind of the megaphone to 2:23:22.840 --> 2:23:26.320 bring people to the party. And so they said they 2:23:26.440 --> 2:23:32.560 needed a single. He always wanted to do something off Mace. 2:23:32.600 --> 2:23:36.920 He wanted to do something off the Deep Record record. 2:23:37.200 --> 2:23:39.200 I just felt like it was such a record that 2:23:39.440 --> 2:23:42.720 was so amazing us touching that what are we going 2:23:42.800 --> 2:23:45.240 to be able to do to that? So when when 2:23:45.360 --> 2:23:48.520 him and Paul or mainly May start putting the ship together, 2:23:50.120 --> 2:23:51.880 Dave was just on some clown ship with it. 2:23:51.959 --> 2:23:53.040 He was like, Yo, man, fuck it. 2:23:53.320 --> 2:23:56.840 So Yo, we're gonna we're gonna take this song from 2:23:57.200 --> 2:23:58.720 Jungle Brothers called black is Black. 2:23:58.879 --> 2:24:01.560 We're gonna mimic their rhyme style so. 2:24:01.640 --> 2:24:05.520 That the drinks I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. 2:24:06.160 --> 2:24:07.760 So it was I can drink though. 2:24:11.320 --> 2:24:11.680 He is not. 2:24:14.520 --> 2:24:18.400 But yeah, the blackest black record on Jungle Brothers straight 2:24:18.440 --> 2:24:20.920 out the Jungle album was like in a Meverick cut 2:24:21.000 --> 2:24:22.040 today people. 2:24:22.160 --> 2:24:25.320 So we we just took that rhyme style mirror mirror 2:24:25.480 --> 2:24:26.119 on the wall. 2:24:26.240 --> 2:24:26.440 Wow. 2:24:27.120 --> 2:24:29.600 So he was like, fuck it, we just did something 2:24:29.720 --> 2:24:34.360 so easy, wrote those rhymes real quick here and God 2:24:34.560 --> 2:24:36.959 was like, yeah, nigga, we're gonna make. 2:24:36.920 --> 2:24:40.120 This so you know. 2:24:40.360 --> 2:24:43.680 So it's basically this is your throat and was on 2:24:43.840 --> 2:24:46.400 the song black as Black. Yeah, and that's where he 2:24:46.560 --> 2:24:51.240 comes in in his little part black is Black. Yeah, 2:24:51.400 --> 2:24:53.080 we just took it from Black as Black. We just 2:24:53.120 --> 2:24:55.040 took that rhyme style from Jungle Brothers. 2:24:55.320 --> 2:24:55.600 Crazy. 2:24:56.320 --> 2:24:59.280 Yeah. It was just a throw away. There was no 2:24:59.560 --> 2:25:04.360 thought into that. It wasn't even on the album they wanted. 2:25:04.400 --> 2:25:05.360 It was just. 2:25:06.959 --> 2:25:08.600 Yeah, like yo, know what I'm saying. 2:25:08.600 --> 2:25:10.879 You had already turned in the album or you gave 2:25:10.920 --> 2:25:12.360 him the basically the album. 2:25:12.560 --> 2:25:16.200 They heard everything we had did and they needed we 2:25:16.440 --> 2:25:21.959 needed a single, so we was like, all right, an esthetic. 2:25:22.240 --> 2:25:27.240 It was more so at that time for black radio. Yeah, 2:25:28.160 --> 2:25:29.680 it was called black radios. 2:25:29.400 --> 2:25:30.480 Called black radio. 2:25:33.560 --> 2:25:37.520 Straight up. We even got a billboard things says uh yeah, 2:25:37.680 --> 2:25:40.959 black bloody black music. Yeah yeah, I'm telling. 2:25:40.800 --> 2:25:43.000 You yeah, So it's like. 2:25:44.680 --> 2:25:52.560 Radio Yeah changed later, so that was like pretty much 2:25:52.600 --> 2:25:55.680 the second to last song that was done, wow. 2:25:55.959 --> 2:25:56.160 Yeah. 2:25:56.560 --> 2:25:59.840 The last song was living in a full time erar 2:26:00.640 --> 2:26:01.320 yeah wow. 2:26:01.640 --> 2:26:05.400 And then aesthetically the look that was the video and 2:26:05.520 --> 2:26:09.000 you guys that was always there, like you guys already 2:26:09.040 --> 2:26:10.320 had thought that through was it? 2:26:10.600 --> 2:26:11.680 There was no thought to it. 2:26:11.879 --> 2:26:15.519 I'm being honest man, like in us giving a throwaway, 2:26:15.840 --> 2:26:18.640 it had us giving who we were as people and 2:26:18.720 --> 2:26:20.240 how we was caring about shit. 2:26:20.840 --> 2:26:23.800 So once we saw that it was and it was crazy. 2:26:23.840 --> 2:26:26.879 I remember when the album came out and that ship 2:26:26.959 --> 2:26:30.400 came out and I'm a cute it was already DJing 2:26:30.440 --> 2:26:33.320 and and him was like, Yo, man, yo, Mercy ship 2:26:33.440 --> 2:26:36.480 is going and I'm an amazed this somethings like Yo, 2:26:37.560 --> 2:26:39.280 this ship is yoyo. 2:26:39.320 --> 2:26:41.400 I think this ship is about to go like this 2:26:41.600 --> 2:26:42.160 be myself And. 2:26:43.800 --> 2:26:44.080 I was like. 2:26:46.520 --> 2:26:49.640 So it just kind of like the visuals just kind 2:26:49.680 --> 2:26:51.680 of was easy to fall into, you know what I'm saying, 2:26:52.080 --> 2:26:53.080 because I always say that. 2:26:53.240 --> 2:26:53.360 Man. 2:26:53.440 --> 2:26:56.840 It's like I'm being honest and he's just right here 2:26:57.080 --> 2:26:57.360 with me. 2:26:57.520 --> 2:27:00.960 Like niggas wasn't no punk niggas, Like that video was 2:27:00.959 --> 2:27:03.840 a video like we weren't those type of dudes. We 2:27:04.000 --> 2:27:06.560 came from a place where you know, you could be different, 2:27:06.600 --> 2:27:09.560 but niggas knew you had hands. You know, you could 2:27:09.600 --> 2:27:11.840 sell drugs, but you could be into the coolest shit 2:27:11.879 --> 2:27:15.039 ever or the the you know, the punk rock shot whoever, 2:27:15.120 --> 2:27:17.440 who knows. Like that's one thing about Long Island, Like 2:27:17.520 --> 2:27:19.640 we hung out with the white kids who did the 2:27:19.720 --> 2:27:21.920 keg parties, and we brought them to our parties. 2:27:22.000 --> 2:27:22.120 You know. 2:27:22.320 --> 2:27:27.680 So we was all around at Chartists. So that always 2:27:27.720 --> 2:27:34.200 wanted to be the dude upside down white people. 2:27:37.440 --> 2:27:39.440 So you know that's what it was. I mean, like 2:27:40.040 --> 2:27:40.720 it did work. 2:27:40.800 --> 2:27:43.040 It just kind of meshed into this thing like, yeah, man, 2:27:43.120 --> 2:27:47.040 we can make this about individualism and you know, being 2:27:47.160 --> 2:27:49.920 confident in who you are as a person. And you know, 2:27:50.840 --> 2:27:52.760 but we were like the dudes who loved the most 2:27:52.840 --> 2:27:55.800 hardest shit ever. We you know, we we could sing 2:27:55.879 --> 2:27:58.879 you any koojie rap record. When this dude was sitting 2:27:58.920 --> 2:28:02.120 here putting out his first joints. We knew all them joints, 2:28:02.240 --> 2:28:05.560 like strong city joints. Like we loved hip hop, you 2:28:05.600 --> 2:28:07.120 know what I'm saying. But we had no problem with 2:28:07.240 --> 2:28:10.119 expressing ourselves the way we chose to express ourselves. 2:28:09.879 --> 2:28:13.040 Because that's that's something that's very unique about y'all as well. 2:28:13.720 --> 2:28:16.920 Is y'all very creative when it comes to them videos, 2:28:17.120 --> 2:28:19.960 Like I don't think not one of youall videos looked 2:28:19.959 --> 2:28:22.240 at like another one of y'all videos. Let me tell 2:28:22.280 --> 2:28:22.480 you this. 2:28:23.120 --> 2:28:25.680 I can know who I'm talking from my standpoint. Okay, 2:28:25.920 --> 2:28:29.240 I was the dude who wanted simple videos I want 2:28:29.400 --> 2:28:32.240 like Yo, there wasn't one E E P M D 2:28:32.520 --> 2:28:35.240 video that missed. Like I'm being honest, I think that 2:28:35.440 --> 2:28:41.760 every daylight video was me because this is me saying 2:28:42.080 --> 2:28:44.600 like that's your preference. Yeah, Like I just thought like 2:28:44.760 --> 2:28:50.840 we missed it, like maybe ego tripping, but just being honest, 2:28:51.160 --> 2:28:53.959 every video, like like when try would do videos and. 2:28:54.080 --> 2:29:00.520 Be like, oh shit, these niggas nold videos like it 2:29:00.720 --> 2:29:04.039 was like, but that's how I feel about y'all every time. 2:29:04.200 --> 2:29:06.840 Thing with us, The thing with us is that the 2:29:07.040 --> 2:29:11.960 director would be so tired of doing the n w 2:29:12.200 --> 2:29:14.480 A videos with all the bitches and da da da, 2:29:14.959 --> 2:29:18.000 that when Daylight came up, they would be more creative 2:29:18.320 --> 2:29:21.120 to creative, and we'd be like, oh man, come on, 2:29:22.200 --> 2:29:24.360 yeah for real, holy for real. 2:29:24.720 --> 2:29:27.920 Opposite like for real, like I feel like breaking down video. 2:29:28.080 --> 2:29:29.600 It was like What the fuck is this? 2:29:30.000 --> 2:29:30.480 What video? 2:29:30.520 --> 2:29:35.440 You said to break it down video where we yo 2:29:36.000 --> 2:29:36.440 it was just. 2:29:38.520 --> 2:29:41.720 Yeah, but you know it's funny the hip hop needed that. 2:29:42.320 --> 2:29:43.959 You probably that, but. 2:29:45.480 --> 2:29:51.040 This is crazy. I mean, hit every video you rhymes. 2:29:51.080 --> 2:29:53.920 I always thought that you guys bust ahead in creditble 2:29:53.920 --> 2:29:56.840 like busters like you guys and bust to me and 2:29:57.360 --> 2:30:00.160 all the dopest videos. And to hear you say that 2:30:01.120 --> 2:30:06.320 affectionatest though, you know, I mean, yeah there who got 2:30:06.400 --> 2:30:06.760 it there? 2:30:08.400 --> 2:30:10.400 And like I said, I mean I would and I hope. 2:30:10.440 --> 2:30:12.800 I don't want to disrespect any of the directors. I mean, 2:30:12.879 --> 2:30:15.800 like when we did ring Me Ring like yeah, like, 2:30:15.920 --> 2:30:17.520 but I'm just trying to say, like, I just felt 2:30:17.560 --> 2:30:21.160 like it didn't always have to be soul those look ringing. 2:30:22.040 --> 2:30:25.880 It didn't have to always you you know what I'm saying. 2:30:26.000 --> 2:30:27.760 You didn't want all the bells and whistles you want. 2:30:27.640 --> 2:30:30.640 To just kind of could just be I don't know 2:30:30.680 --> 2:30:33.400 if I said a certain verse, the visual could match it. 2:30:33.520 --> 2:30:37.440 You had the input we had, but I don't know, 2:30:37.560 --> 2:30:39.560 mankind didn't care as much? 2:30:40.280 --> 2:30:40.480 Did you? 2:30:40.640 --> 2:30:42.600 Just like the more simplified. Like one of my favorite 2:30:42.640 --> 2:30:45.200 videos is the first Protected Neck video. It was just 2:30:45.280 --> 2:30:46.760 that I think it was black and white and it 2:30:46.879 --> 2:30:48.039 was just raw and gritty. 2:30:48.600 --> 2:30:49.080 That's ill. 2:30:49.280 --> 2:30:52.920 Yeah, I think at that time, being young, willing to 2:30:54.080 --> 2:30:57.560 take someone's lead and that expertise of what they do, 2:30:58.320 --> 2:31:00.120 you know, and just seeing what they come with it. 2:31:00.280 --> 2:31:03.880 You know, a lot of times if we didn't like shit, 2:31:03.959 --> 2:31:06.560 we didn't say it, you know. Yeah, that would be 2:31:07.160 --> 2:31:09.680 the dangerous part. We wouldn't say it, you know. 2:31:09.920 --> 2:31:12.320 So and by no means I'm trying to say I 2:31:12.520 --> 2:31:15.879 hated our videos, but I just felt like I never 2:31:16.120 --> 2:31:16.920 really walked away. 2:31:16.920 --> 2:31:19.200 A lot of times, like, yo, we nailed that ship 2:31:19.800 --> 2:31:22.520 went directors, you guys work with Diane Montelle ship, I 2:31:22.600 --> 2:31:27.320 can't even fuck it, Dave may Mark, Romantic Kid Ring Ring, 2:31:27.920 --> 2:31:31.640 y'all got the I mean they got a list we did, 2:31:32.360 --> 2:31:34.320 you know, say no go all that ship. But it 2:31:34.520 --> 2:31:35.959 probably went all out for you guys. 2:31:36.000 --> 2:31:37.400 And that's what I mean. 2:31:37.600 --> 2:31:40.640 Buddy was something because it was just a vibe. I mean, 2:31:40.680 --> 2:31:43.480 that was his family and we just had fun shooting Buddy. 2:31:43.560 --> 2:31:44.240 You know what I'm saying. 2:31:45.160 --> 2:31:48.119 But I don't know, man, So what is your favorite 2:31:48.200 --> 2:31:49.440 video that you you ever film? 2:31:50.160 --> 2:31:50.400 For me? 2:31:50.480 --> 2:31:53.640 It would be Oh, I would have to agree, I 2:31:53.680 --> 2:31:55.480 would have to agree with you who was the. 2:31:55.520 --> 2:31:58.160 Wizard of Oz. It looked like you guys are having 2:31:58.200 --> 2:31:58.560 fun on that. 2:31:58.640 --> 2:32:00.280 We had a lot of fun. And that's one thing 2:32:00.320 --> 2:32:01.360 about us as a group too. 2:32:01.400 --> 2:32:05.360 We was always willing and had no problem with having 2:32:05.520 --> 2:32:10.360 people showcase themselves, not worrying about us, because that was 2:32:10.440 --> 2:32:12.680 one thing that even people are Tommy was saying, It 2:32:12.760 --> 2:32:15.440 was like, yo, you know that this video is showcasing 2:32:16.280 --> 2:32:20.840 Redman and Rod Digger, like like you know, because y'all 2:32:20.959 --> 2:32:23.600 faces is covered so your fans or these new fans 2:32:23.680 --> 2:32:26.000 may not really see y'all, But we didn't care. We 2:32:26.120 --> 2:32:30.480 played into the artimic was yeah, that was us always, 2:32:31.000 --> 2:32:35.200 you know what I'm saying. But Sally had a one 2:32:35.320 --> 2:32:38.640 track mind. The way this Nigga sat here video, I 2:32:38.760 --> 2:32:38.920 was like. 2:32:38.959 --> 2:32:40.200 Can we do a video like. 2:32:41.720 --> 2:32:46.320 Write the projects like we rarely did ship like that, 2:32:46.560 --> 2:32:51.560 you know what I'm saying. Fucking I know video and 2:32:52.040 --> 2:32:54.840 bubbles floating around. It was like, all right, and that's 2:32:54.879 --> 2:32:55.440 just crazy? 2:32:55.560 --> 2:32:59.200 Is is? I'm sitting around thinking y'all being the most 2:32:59.240 --> 2:33:02.360 creative and to me, I'm still standing by that. I'm 2:33:02.400 --> 2:33:05.840 not letting you change my minds. I think your videos 2:33:05.959 --> 2:33:08.480 was hard. I would look at y'all videos and be like, 2:33:08.520 --> 2:33:10.640 I want a video like that. I wanted to be 2:33:10.760 --> 2:33:13.120 creative like that. So the fact that you're sitting there, 2:33:13.160 --> 2:33:15.119 but I know you're perfectionists, I could tell. 2:33:15.680 --> 2:33:16.720 Like I said, it was just that. 2:33:19.000 --> 2:33:22.720 The directors was just so happy to do something for 2:33:22.879 --> 2:33:25.040 us because they felt like this could be something that 2:33:25.160 --> 2:33:28.080 can get me away from what I'm normally doing. 2:33:28.760 --> 2:33:31.280 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Stakes I was a 2:33:31.360 --> 2:33:33.640 dope video that was a video. 2:33:34.080 --> 2:33:36.640 Yeah, and we were supposed to actually with Nick Quested, 2:33:36.720 --> 2:33:37.879 we were supposed to do the business. 2:33:37.959 --> 2:33:39.840 I don't know what happened. We just never big up 2:33:39.840 --> 2:33:40.640 my boy Nick Questions. 2:33:41.160 --> 2:33:44.400 You know, Nick Questioning was the guy that was following 2:33:44.480 --> 2:33:49.199 around the dudes that crushed the Right house, that crashed 2:33:49.200 --> 2:33:52.040 the Right house. He was the dude that was filmed it. Yes, 2:33:52.200 --> 2:33:56.520 he wanted. He went undercover and filmed it. He has 2:33:56.560 --> 2:33:59.240 a whole documentary that's about to drop of him filming 2:33:59.360 --> 2:34:05.160 the guys who stormed the White House. He's a mediac. 2:34:06.080 --> 2:34:06.879 I can believe it. 2:34:06.879 --> 2:34:10.440 Because the joint on stakes is high. Where the country 2:34:10.520 --> 2:34:13.199 dudes like rap some something. Just a bunch of niggas talking. 2:34:13.640 --> 2:34:17.240 That's something he had filmed. It is like Nigga always 2:34:17.320 --> 2:34:19.080 going to cover with some ship. Nick did my first 2:34:19.360 --> 2:34:20.920 two videos. He did l A l A and he 2:34:21.000 --> 2:34:23.200 did t O n y Nick Question. So wherever you 2:34:23.320 --> 2:34:24.920 got Nick Question, you know, I got to learn him 2:34:24.920 --> 2:34:25.760 with love for you, man. 2:34:26.040 --> 2:34:28.760 But the fact that he went in undercover for us 2:34:28.879 --> 2:34:32.560 as a people like he's hip hop like niggas not racist, 2:34:33.280 --> 2:34:35.600 So he had to go in front like a Nazi. 2:34:37.080 --> 2:34:39.360 He had to act like a Nazi to get down 2:34:39.440 --> 2:34:41.960 with him. He filmed the whole ship. He has the 2:34:42.040 --> 2:34:44.080 whole ship. This ship is amazing. I didn't see it 2:34:44.160 --> 2:34:48.440 obviously yet like he put the universal feelings to the side. 2:34:48.480 --> 2:34:51.680 He filmed the ship and so he has this whole documentary. 2:34:52.520 --> 2:34:56.320 Nigga's crazy. But by the way, I appreciate that, I 2:34:56.400 --> 2:34:59.720 mean I appreciate I always say that to my friend 2:34:59.760 --> 2:35:03.120 he's over there. If you, if you have white privilege, 2:35:03.240 --> 2:35:06.600 use your white privilege or your or your friend for 2:35:06.720 --> 2:35:09.760 your friends or your friend, if you have it, use it. 2:35:10.040 --> 2:35:11.640 You know what I'm saying the same way, I'm gonna 2:35:11.680 --> 2:35:15.800 use my black hip hop for you. And Nick questing, 2:35:16.280 --> 2:35:18.960 he actually did that, like he to me he paid 2:35:18.959 --> 2:35:21.520 you back hip hop, everything that hip hop has done 2:35:21.560 --> 2:35:25.840 for him, for him going under cover and filming the 2:35:25.959 --> 2:35:29.600 Magna by the way, which I want to seek. 2:35:29.879 --> 2:35:31.680 I definitely want to see that hold up. 2:35:31.879 --> 2:35:35.720 But let me just tell y'all, man, I really appreciate 2:35:35.800 --> 2:35:37.840 you brothers taking the time out to come see us, 2:35:38.560 --> 2:35:39.720 to come chop it up. 2:35:40.120 --> 2:35:42.120 We appreciate y'all having us strength. 2:35:42.240 --> 2:35:46.480 Man. Yes, man, I love the show man. It's your 2:35:46.520 --> 2:35:49.320 time to give you your flowers. I hate okay, and 2:35:50.080 --> 2:35:55.920 it really is because hip hop has saved my life. Literally, 2:35:56.760 --> 2:35:58.640 I had six months when I came home from jail, 2:35:59.120 --> 2:36:01.760 has six months to get a job. And if I 2:36:01.800 --> 2:36:03.840 didn't get a job, I would have went right back 2:36:03.879 --> 2:36:06.560 to jail. And you know a job I got is 2:36:06.720 --> 2:36:13.600 hip hop. That's doe, man, that's dope. I literally went 2:36:13.640 --> 2:36:16.520 to McDonald's and they told me no, yo, but I 2:36:16.560 --> 2:36:20.360 would have worked at McDonald's. I was willing to work 2:36:20.480 --> 2:36:23.760 at McDonald's and they told me no, you're a feeling 2:36:23.879 --> 2:36:24.560 it's beautiful. 2:36:24.600 --> 2:36:28.080 I mean, like Premier had told me something like kind 2:36:28.080 --> 2:36:31.480 of similar with Malachi, you know, like from Group On, 2:36:32.640 --> 2:36:35.480 you know, and hip hop. It was just like the 2:36:35.640 --> 2:36:38.640 judge was like yo, he can go away, and they 2:36:38.840 --> 2:36:41.520 was really speaking on behalf of them and they're having 2:36:41.720 --> 2:36:43.480 them say like yo, so why don't you have him? 2:36:43.560 --> 2:36:46.560 Do what y'all doing? You know what I'm saying, Like 2:36:47.280 --> 2:36:50.720 it's just dope power. Hip hop has placed people in 2:36:50.840 --> 2:36:54.640 the fabric of a culture, you know, and saved their 2:36:54.720 --> 2:36:55.320 lives with it. 2:36:55.400 --> 2:36:57.920 You know what I'm saying, that's everything, man, the. 2:36:57.920 --> 2:37:01.080 Company countries use name and just just just now like 2:37:01.680 --> 2:37:04.760 people from the Bronx Long Island, you know, queens. He 2:37:04.800 --> 2:37:08.880 supposed to be naming walsall Pope, dudes who Germany and 2:37:09.240 --> 2:37:11.400 like that. Like you know what I'm saying. You know 2:37:11.520 --> 2:37:13.760 what now we are yes, yes, because this is a 2:37:13.760 --> 2:37:16.600 beautiful thing. It really is. Man. I really wanted to 2:37:16.600 --> 2:37:19.840 give your flowers out. I found out too late that 2:37:19.959 --> 2:37:21.480 Diamond d was coming here because we would have had 2:37:21.520 --> 2:37:23.320 you give your flowers. But we want to give your 2:37:23.360 --> 2:37:26.840 flowers with d I TC where everybody plays. We would 2:37:27.000 --> 2:37:29.280 love y'all put it together. Please don't want to give 2:37:29.320 --> 2:37:33.200 show biz a g flowers. Give you your flowers so 2:37:33.360 --> 2:37:38.000 bad because this is truly what me and EFN want 2:37:38.040 --> 2:37:41.440 to do is in this game, if you have ten 2:37:41.520 --> 2:37:44.480 years they say that you're washed up, and this is 2:37:44.680 --> 2:37:47.680 only hip hop. They don't do that any Rolling Stones, 2:37:47.720 --> 2:37:49.840 they don't do that in rock and roll. They say 2:37:49.879 --> 2:37:53.600 that you're seasoned when you have ten years or fifteen 2:37:53.680 --> 2:37:55.959 years or twenty years more. So I want to stop 2:37:56.040 --> 2:37:58.279 this and hip hop. That's the reason why we created 2:37:58.320 --> 2:38:01.120 this show is we want people that is seasoned as 2:38:01.240 --> 2:38:04.240 veterans to have their flowers, to. 2:38:04.360 --> 2:38:08.080 Have them stopped. Already, Yes, stopped. 2:38:12.800 --> 2:38:18.000 You truly, you guys, truly really, everyone who has fifteen 2:38:18.120 --> 2:38:20.840 years more in this game, we have to salute you 2:38:20.840 --> 2:38:23.480 to brothers like we have to. Like, I love the 2:38:23.560 --> 2:38:27.680 fact that Chuck d is what is it his thing 2:38:27.920 --> 2:38:31.520 now called Alliance hip Hop Alliance where he's actually fighting 2:38:31.600 --> 2:38:35.880 for us to get medical rights. Actually, Curtis Blow. I 2:38:36.080 --> 2:38:38.280 fucking love that. I want to support it so much. 2:38:38.360 --> 2:38:41.680 I want to I want to donate, I want to 2:38:41.720 --> 2:38:45.040 do whatever, because hip hop has to be taken care of. 2:38:45.160 --> 2:38:48.640 We have to take care of each other, so otherwise, 2:38:49.360 --> 2:38:53.320 you know, it's kind of like it's kind of like whatever, 2:38:53.520 --> 2:38:55.920 like you know what I mean, Because it's just like 2:38:56.000 --> 2:38:59.039 I say, with fad Joe, me and fa Joe haven't 2:38:59.040 --> 2:39:01.400 seen each other like six months, he's been busy. I've 2:39:01.400 --> 2:39:03.680 been busy, doesn't I don't have to I don't have 2:39:03.760 --> 2:39:05.960 to speak to him all the time. My love for 2:39:06.040 --> 2:39:09.000 him is always there. That's the same thing what we 2:39:09.160 --> 2:39:11.680 have to do with hip hop is like sometimes we 2:39:12.080 --> 2:39:14.879 can't participate, but the love has to always be here 2:39:15.760 --> 2:39:20.040 and with you guys. I seen that, Like I told you, 2:39:20.959 --> 2:39:23.959 I literally tears came out of my eyes seeing y'all celebrate, 2:39:24.000 --> 2:39:27.400 seeing y'all count that down, I was like, yo, I 2:39:27.520 --> 2:39:29.160 swear to god, I was like, I wanted to be there. 2:39:30.440 --> 2:39:33.480 I was like, oh, ship Like. I was like, yo, 2:39:33.560 --> 2:39:36.240 I really wanted to rewind right after we were both like. 2:39:36.440 --> 2:39:40.199 I was like, if I would have knew an hour ahead, 2:39:40.520 --> 2:39:41.800 I would have I don't know how I would have 2:39:41.879 --> 2:39:44.120 got there, but I wanted to celebrate that moment. But 2:39:44.240 --> 2:39:47.600 this moment is also just as important because I wanted 2:39:47.600 --> 2:39:49.800 to give your flowers, see your face, and tell y'all 2:39:50.080 --> 2:39:52.680 how important y'all are to hip hop, how much that 2:39:52.840 --> 2:39:55.680 y'all contributed, and how much we appreciate it. 2:39:56.640 --> 2:39:56.760 Yo. 2:39:56.959 --> 2:40:01.400 Man, for real, man, y'all bro, and you know what crazy? 2:40:01.959 --> 2:40:04.200 You know what's crazy. I to be honest and I'm 2:40:04.240 --> 2:40:09.200 sorry this to David's here right now. Question, I really 2:40:09.440 --> 2:40:14.360 want me laughing at me. I feel him cracking jokes 2:40:14.440 --> 2:40:17.320 on me. That's what I feel. 2:40:17.600 --> 2:40:19.720 I said like he said it when he was here, 2:40:20.160 --> 2:40:24.199 he loved you because he really I remember us doing 2:40:24.320 --> 2:40:28.280 this thing with you and Tommy Boy, and we was like, 2:40:28.560 --> 2:40:30.640 he was like, yo, dog, this nigga got something. 2:40:30.720 --> 2:40:36.160 He's good at this ship. Yes, I feel him. I'm 2:40:36.240 --> 2:40:38.600 being honest. I feel him here in this room. Mean 2:40:38.680 --> 2:40:41.960 to be spiritual, like you know, it's crazy, I really do. 2:40:42.200 --> 2:40:45.360 Like like like when my father passed away, I became 2:40:45.440 --> 2:40:49.000 spiritual and I started to realize that maybe I didn't 2:40:49.080 --> 2:40:52.160 lose him. I lost him in the physical form, but 2:40:52.280 --> 2:40:54.520 I didn't lose him. And it be times I just 2:40:54.720 --> 2:40:59.440 feeling and I was telling you, Dave is in this 2:40:59.680 --> 2:41:04.480 room right now. We we love you, we miss you, brother. 2:41:04.520 --> 2:41:09.000 We're gonna hold you down. Dayla soul Man, forever man. 2:41:09.080 --> 2:41:12.920 We we that is forever man, day soul Man. I 2:41:13.000 --> 2:41:17.880 really appreciate this. We did straight three hours man. It 2:41:17.959 --> 2:41:24.160 felt like three manes because because because I'm so excited, 2:41:24.360 --> 2:41:31.039 and you know what again, hip hop has to celebrate 2:41:31.120 --> 2:41:37.279 hip hop. Another coach is not gonna celebrate us. Yeahs 2:41:37.320 --> 2:41:40.920 ain't gonna big us up. Rock and Roll ain't gonna 2:41:40.959 --> 2:41:43.920 big us up. Heavy Meadow ain't gonna big us up. 2:41:44.440 --> 2:41:47.879 So we don't big each other up and tell each 2:41:47.879 --> 2:41:50.560 other how great you are, especially when you are great. 2:41:51.800 --> 2:41:52.400 Appreciate you. 2:41:52.680 --> 2:41:56.080 These people that's not great and they get bigged up, 2:41:56.320 --> 2:41:57.640 but your brothers are great. 2:41:58.160 --> 2:41:58.200 You. 2:41:58.640 --> 2:42:00.959 I want to say, rest in peace, Thank you man. 2:42:02.400 --> 2:42:08.440 I want to say, you know, daylight soul forever. I 2:42:08.560 --> 2:42:12.320 want y'all to know that y'all appreciate it. We love y'all. 2:42:12.920 --> 2:42:13.800 We're gonna hold y'all down. 2:42:14.160 --> 2:42:18.680 Love'll take you. 2:42:18.720 --> 2:42:21.320 Wanna take a couple of pictures, Let me do y'allo. 2:42:24.120 --> 2:42:26.480 By the way, I'm being honest. 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