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Speaker 1: consists of their music. They have stayed timeless, have stayed relevant,
Speaker 1: have had one of the most beautiful stories in hip hop.
Speaker 1: The fact that they got their stuff back, the fact
Speaker 1: that that you know, they stayed up every day. I
Speaker 1: never I never seen them cry. I've never seen them.
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Speaker 1: So guys, man, last time you guys we was here.
Speaker 1: We were speaking about, uh, the resurrection of getting back
Speaker 1: you guys material? How did that? How did that play out?
Speaker 5: It played out pretty successfully?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 5: What ended up happening? Tom Silverman ended up selling the
Speaker 5: entire Tommy Boy catalog to a company called Reservoir Media.
Speaker 5: Faith our friend, sister person who's been our partner in
Speaker 5: hip hop and Wow looked out.
Speaker 1: For all of us, you know, Wow, Yes, big of faith.
Speaker 5: Yeah Faith, Yeah, and made the her and her partners
Speaker 5: made the deal, right, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't want you to prevail
Speaker 1: anything that you guys can't reveal. But for people, for
Speaker 1: people who's sitting in your situation right now, what can
Speaker 1: you say about, Like how did y'all go about this?
Speaker 1: What was this? I sit down, y'all have some coffee
Speaker 1: and yeah, and because one thing about y'all, let me
Speaker 1: just tell you something. And I know what every rapper
Speaker 1: gets hated on, right, but one thing about y'all, I
Speaker 1: don't see no one hating on y'all.
Speaker 6: Don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying y'all got hate this. I know y'all
Speaker 1: hate this, but I don't see it. So it's like
Speaker 1: to me, everybody wants to see y'all win. So how
Speaker 1: did y'all go about getting back to rights?
Speaker 4: If I could jump in, like.
Speaker 3: After we did drink Champs, Wow, that helps start like
Speaker 3: a momentum as well of having these these discussions with
Speaker 3: you know, the owners of Tommy Boy at the time.
Speaker 3: Every now and then they would come to the table
Speaker 3: with something it was a little better but still needed
Speaker 3: some work. Without question, I'll make sure the whole world
Speaker 3: know this man right here was not backing down.
Speaker 4: He was not with he was hitting me.
Speaker 2: After we did the episode, like yo, keep let's keep
Speaker 2: putting the pressure.
Speaker 3: I remember you, yeah, so you know, I'm just being
Speaker 3: if I can give you that bit of like inside stuff.
Speaker 3: There was moments where like Yo, I could be like Yo,
Speaker 3: this is good God bless the dead. Dave could be like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is I think we can kind of work with this.
Speaker 3: Mix was like nah, I can't work with this. And
Speaker 3: I love y'all and y'all my brothers, but Yo, man,
Speaker 3: we shouldn't settle, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It should be no level of settling.
Speaker 3: And we kept pushing and the times with they go dark,
Speaker 3: we chilling, we doing what we do. They come back around, Hey, Yo,
Speaker 3: we've made it like this, and make's just like nah,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's a unique situation. Knowing that it never happened to
Speaker 5: no other group or artists like this, wow, where the
Speaker 5: label would fold and the groups or artists keep going
Speaker 5: a lot of times when the label fold, the artists
Speaker 5: and group fold as well, you know, trying to figure
Speaker 5: out situations we have been able to really sustain, We
Speaker 5: had been able to carry on as far as putting
Speaker 5: out music Kickstarter, especially with the Kickstarter. I'm so proud
Speaker 5: of that because that got nominated for a Grammy at
Speaker 5: that so wow, and Tommy Boy trying to make their comeback,
Speaker 5: their comeback was based on us still being a part
Speaker 5: of that. So those the things I understood. And here
Speaker 5: it is. It's like, yeah, we humble guys know my value.
Speaker 5: I know. I've been playing this game since high school,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's been on the job training and
Speaker 5: behind it all. It's like, this was the moment in
Speaker 5: time I had to really take on my leadership and
Speaker 5: the crew. I mean, everybody has their warranted leadership back
Speaker 5: moments and times and it just comes at divine moments
Speaker 5: when God is calling. And it was in my spirit
Speaker 5: like that, like, nah, we can't do this. And there
Speaker 5: was times I was almost buckled. That almost buckled a
Speaker 5: few times, you know. And I gotta be honest. You know,
Speaker 5: I got a good woman on my team, my wife,
Speaker 5: you know, with the help of her counsel as well.
Speaker 5: You know, it helped my decision. It helped our decision.
Speaker 1: Because for a long time, the music wasn't even available
Speaker 1: right all.
Speaker 5: Over twenty years, for twenty years we out there performing
Speaker 5: music that people can't even get. And then now we
Speaker 5: also hit the stage rocking with the Gorillas for over
Speaker 5: ten years and in front of a mega new audience,
Speaker 5: and they can't even get it, you.
Speaker 4: Know, only they then could.
Speaker 3: The only thing they could get was like physical releases
Speaker 3: that were to take the Yeah, you know, they finally
Speaker 3: like you know, there you go like whatever little thrift store,
Speaker 3: vinyl store, and we like spotsort necessarily benefiting from it.
Speaker 4: But it's keeping the time.
Speaker 5: We even released it for nothing. We released it for
Speaker 5: free like twenty ten around the thirtieth and thirtieth anniversary,
Speaker 5: we connected with some website that was in in Russia
Speaker 5: somewhere and took it from them and gave it to
Speaker 5: the audience for free because it's just one available, you know. Wow.
Speaker 5: So just being a true artist, you know, wanting the
Speaker 5: people to just have your music. That was what it
Speaker 5: was about in that moment in time. Like you know,
Speaker 5: when Warner Brothers had it, it was like so many
Speaker 5: infractions around it, which the samples was the biggest issue.
Speaker 5: They didn't think it was worth putting it out. So
Speaker 5: under the Warner Brothers system, it was all stuck. But yeah,
Speaker 5: when when he made the sale to the Reservoir, you know,
Speaker 5: magic happened. You know, they made it work. They made it,
Speaker 5: they made it comfortable for us to really get back to.
Speaker 1: Work because I can remember like hearing when y'all got
Speaker 1: your rights back, how hip hop just supported y'all. And
Speaker 1: I believe it's a rumor like every one of your
Speaker 1: albums went sold a million or something like that, Like
Speaker 1: I think it went straight to number one.
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, yeah, phenomenal, Yes it has.
Speaker 3: I mean like there's points where there's lists, like a
Speaker 3: catalog list, and it can be like Fleetwood Mac number one,
Speaker 3: day Soul number two, Thriller number three, like three rising
Speaker 3: up like it's it's been like we're charting like we've
Speaker 3: never tried to before, Like releases are now being these
Speaker 3: re releases, all this charting.
Speaker 1: Really high, and this is a blessing. You know, Sipop
Speaker 1: really really loves you guys. We really we we the
Speaker 1: people deserve. We're gonna get into I wish that shirt,
Speaker 1: say what is that you know we did? We did
Speaker 1: the pharral during last week. Last week something in the water.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get my sneakers messed up. This year,
Speaker 1: every time I go to that goddamn concepts don't come
Speaker 1: back the same, I kid, you not something in the dirt,
Speaker 1: something the goddamn beach, that bigger.
Speaker 2: Man Virginia Beach. Real quick with the re release. Just
Speaker 2: for anybody that's wondering and unders trying to understand the
Speaker 2: technicality of the business side, all those issues with the
Speaker 2: samples from before, how does that get resolved when it
Speaker 2: gets rereleased?
Speaker 1: Great question.
Speaker 3: Well, we we spent once we got everything in order
Speaker 3: with reservoir, we spent pretty much almost a year here,
Speaker 3: just a year and a half, Yeah, taking care of
Speaker 3: whatever need to be because you yeah.
Speaker 1: So you now have to administer and make sure everything
Speaker 1: I think. Wow. So it was.
Speaker 3: But even the beauty in that was coming across these
Speaker 3: different publishers and artists, you know, they were really helpful, man,
Speaker 3: They really wanted.
Speaker 5: We had a lot of you know, from even the
Speaker 5: people who are owned the copyrights and samples. It was,
Speaker 5: like I said, it was a real unique situation based
Speaker 5: off what we exposed to the world by fighting for
Speaker 5: our rights. You know.
Speaker 1: That's dope.
Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, y'all, y'all helped. That's right. Jay helped Quest
Speaker 5: Love and Black thought.
Speaker 1: When you say Jay talking about j j.
Speaker 5: Z, he decided to not called out b Elliott Wilson
Speaker 5: called up and was like, Yo, what y'all want to do?
Speaker 5: Y'all want to stream it? Not streaming?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 5: Was like not streaming, don't stream it. He decided to
Speaker 5: not stream it, and that set the tone for Spotify
Speaker 5: not to do it, Apple not to do it because
Speaker 5: Title didn't do it. You know, and you know how
Speaker 5: the muscles behind the scene can chuck you out. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying now, they helped us out.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's very dope that you just said that,
Speaker 1: because I totally forgot that. I did go over my head,
Speaker 1: but I just remember, that's my first time of me
Speaker 1: being proud of hip hop. It's like that was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we usually have discrepancies against each other, but
Speaker 1: that's the first time I seen hip hop come all
Speaker 1: together and was like, nah, they're doing day lot wrong
Speaker 1: and everyone. I may have been in the room with.
Speaker 5: Jay about three times in my whole career, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, And for that to be, I know,
Speaker 5: we all mean something to each other, whether we.
Speaker 3: Rival maternity, you know what I'm saying, we are you know,
Speaker 3: it's definitely I'm sorry to cut you, but it's definitely blessed.
Speaker 3: Even the fast forward up to like this previous Grammy
Speaker 3: Award and the fiftieth celebration and like running into different
Speaker 3: people there, you know, seeing Rick Ross clapping five and
Speaker 3: I'm about to let go and he grabs me in.
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, man, I'm proud that y'all got y'all
Speaker 3: music back and were waiting, like it was just great
Speaker 3: to see people just really coming together to see what
Speaker 3: you know, needed to be done and the fact that
Speaker 3: we got everything back and they were just just as proud,
Speaker 3: you know, like you said, like a fraternity all proud together.
Speaker 2: To see the coach showed a real community in here,
Speaker 2: like it is a community that I forgot.
Speaker 1: There was a community I forgot because we always at
Speaker 1: each other. And that was the first time, like you know,
Speaker 1: seeing people fighting with you guys. I felt like we
Speaker 1: was fighting with you guys. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like how they see people marching
Speaker 1: and it's like I felt I feel like I was
Speaker 1: from outside marching with y'all because and I got the
Speaker 1: same story. That's what's crazy about I got it was
Speaker 1: the same fight. Just say exact right. So it's like
Speaker 1: this is something, this is under that. Like I'm proud
Speaker 1: of hip hop. I'm proud of hip hop for making
Speaker 1: this happen. I'm proud of you guys for sticking to
Speaker 1: your guns. I'm proud of it because now I know
Speaker 1: the stick to my gun. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because there's been times I wanted to give up, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: after thirty years, they're supposed to give you back your rights.
Speaker 1: Anyway I sit is twenty five, so I'm like five
Speaker 1: years away. But I would love to make this deal.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy to me. Seeing y'all, it gives me
Speaker 1: hope because when you think about it, this is our music.
Speaker 1: Why shouldn't we own it? Like, why shouldn't we.
Speaker 5: Own it at least be partners in it? Based on
Speaker 5: the criteria of what we trying to look for in
Speaker 5: certain deals. You know, some people aren't able to fund themselves,
Speaker 5: you know, so you're all looking for some type of
Speaker 5: funding and you may have to give something up to
Speaker 5: gain something, you know, But as time goes along, I
Speaker 5: always looked at it like a job when you first
Speaker 5: come in for a job. Don't expect to be manager
Speaker 5: first day. But if you do tremendously at the job,
Speaker 5: you do well, you look to get a raise at
Speaker 5: some point. You know a lot of us haven't gotten that.
Speaker 5: You know a lot of us haven't got that raise
Speaker 5: or them benefits. And even with for the deals that
Speaker 5: the label's still cut, you know they need to offer
Speaker 5: more benefits, right, medical benefits something like that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: Something such as that, because it's worked for hire, no
Speaker 5: different than any other employment. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what's up?
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Speaker 5: And then and then it does shit, It should change
Speaker 5: based on success. Yes that that work for hire. Shit
Speaker 5: turn into some sort of partnership, right, you know?
Speaker 2: And I think what's happening is we're all lifting the
Speaker 2: veil of the absurdity of these agreements to say in
Speaker 2: perpetuity in the universe.
Speaker 1: Oh man, So we didn't know what perpetuity. We didn't
Speaker 1: know what digital rights.
Speaker 5: I kept asking, what does that word mean? No one
Speaker 5: wanted to tell me. I looked it up, and I
Speaker 5: was like.
Speaker 1: Crazy because I thought about it when even when I
Speaker 1: thought about it, and I never signed over digital rights.
Speaker 1: I never signed over with because there was nothing called
Speaker 1: digital back then. I never signed up with rings homes.
Speaker 8: There was nothing called out before night, so they coverned
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Speaker 1: It's wild. Yes, it's not.
Speaker 5: It is wild, especially for the artists who are being
Speaker 5: able to capitalize off this you know, technical world of
Speaker 5: the Internet and being able to I mean, if we
Speaker 5: had that back then we probably be able to cut
Speaker 5: better deal und The Internet has gave these artists a
Speaker 5: bargaining power. You out there building your own energy up,
Speaker 5: and then they come in and the scoop off your
Speaker 5: energy and maybe add the machine to take it elsewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's fine, but you done made million plus off
Speaker 5: of doing your own independent thing. That deal structure should
Speaker 5: be a little bit more in your favor.
Speaker 3: It's great to see a lot of young kids very
Speaker 3: familiar with the data. You know, they can show them like, look,
Speaker 3: it's undeniable. I can see right here what I'm doing
Speaker 3: in this understand.
Speaker 4: Yeahs analytics and it's.
Speaker 5: Locking hardware, AI off algorithms and all of that. We
Speaker 5: had to go visit the DJ.
Speaker 1: I remember physically, if I didn't go to London, the
Speaker 1: record wouldn't go to London like I physically had to
Speaker 1: go to London.
Speaker 2: I had to go to everybody, every city you had
Speaker 2: to get so we met you.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Nowadays you can repress one button. That's should
Speaker 1: be everywhere. I remember literally, you know, our e came
Speaker 1: out hit number one, and and every town that I
Speaker 1: had to go, I had to go to every single town.
Speaker 1: They had to look at the what what's what's algorithms
Speaker 1: back then and they had to say, Okay, you're doing
Speaker 1: you're not doing You're not doing good in Philly, So
Speaker 1: they go to Philly, like physically do that. As of
Speaker 1: right now, you could just you could stream. You don't
Speaker 1: even have to leave your house. The pandemic had me
Speaker 1: pissed off. I said, these niggas is dropping albums and
Speaker 1: staying in the house. They was like this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck?
Speaker 8: Come on?
Speaker 1: Didn't work? We were doing the same quarantine. I hated quarantine.
Speaker 1: I hated it if in every moment of quarantine, I
Speaker 1: hated it. Remember so some like you got to give
Speaker 1: you a five. I want you to smell my cologne.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying I want you to feel me.
Speaker 1: I want you to smell my budd You ain't give
Speaker 1: them a blood? Yeah, come on kind of blood. You're
Speaker 1: making us look clazy? Okay, yeah, okay, don't drop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a personal guy man. Yeah, I owe you some
Speaker 1: day shirt. So let me ask you about that. How
Speaker 1: about during the time you got did you use in
Speaker 1: control of your own merch because I always.
Speaker 5: Always been my own merchant. But you have seen mostly
Speaker 5: bootlegs stuff.
Speaker 1: Really yeah? Yeah's got a Bootleggs shirt.
Speaker 5: But I can't I can't hate you, know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Better than because it was like the first night collab, right,
Speaker 1: you collab with like earlier?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the dunk the day?
Speaker 1: How was that? How was that ship?
Speaker 5: We happened to be at the magic.
Speaker 3: That was as R something in San Diego that usually
Speaker 3: happens like this is uh yeah, but I think it's
Speaker 3: called as R.
Speaker 4: We we was in We was doing somewhere l R G.
Speaker 3: And yeah, just walking through the arena where they had
Speaker 3: all the boots shut up, ran into people over there. Nike,
Speaker 3: his brother Robbie Jeffers, who was working with them, and
Speaker 3: I think he's working between Stucie and Nike and he
Speaker 3: we had a show out there like there's some street
Speaker 3: fair they usually do. We had them come through and
Speaker 3: then he just happened to just mention it, like, yo,
Speaker 3: would you be.
Speaker 4: Down to do a dunk? It was like of course,
Speaker 4: and he made the call and it just it just
Speaker 4: fell into place, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 5: Like a year from that meeting.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that was really cool.
Speaker 1: You got your own fucking Nike. Yeah. Man, guys, stop
Speaker 1: being so humble. There's not a lot of people who
Speaker 1: can say that.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 1: No though, flowers, man, let's listen. Our show is about
Speaker 1: giving people flowers, so we need to give you your flowers.
Speaker 1: To your face. Make the face man, man that give flowers.
Speaker 1: And mister is always later, he's always like he's always
Speaker 1: Dominican friend.
Speaker 9: It's always like, okay, yo, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Holy the embarrassing? We got a bootleg day, so shirt
Speaker 1: on if you lay on the flowers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, man, I brought you all.
Speaker 4: So it's beautiful, true boy, rest in peace day man.
Speaker 1: You know for you to present your family and you
Speaker 1: can if you can, you know, we definitely will. Yet beautiful,
Speaker 1: Let's make some noise the flowers, dog, because it's like
Speaker 1: in the Grammy, they got quick Time slim ready.
Speaker 5: Yes man, that's another milestone.
Speaker 4: Yeah man, yes man.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell y'all, man, we are huge fans
Speaker 1: the family to us and we are so happy for
Speaker 1: what y'all y'all accomplished. And as y'all keep going.
Speaker 5: This is better than the Grammy.
Speaker 1: Man, we're using that, we're taking that.
Speaker 5: This is hip hop man into the heart. That's all
Speaker 5: before we that s hip hop honors vah one. These
Speaker 5: two right here.
Speaker 1: And you got you guys had an album on Massive
Speaker 1: Pill correct what.
Speaker 5: It was supposed to be.
Speaker 3: It's still in play. We just gotta get it, you know.
Speaker 3: We gotta get it done.
Speaker 1: You gotta get it done. Yeah yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: And some we we hope to get done. I mean
Speaker 3: there was a there weren't a lot of rhymes that
Speaker 3: Dave completed because it was a it was a Pete
Speaker 3: rock and premiere.
Speaker 4: Yeah ooh joint. Wow, that's right. Yeah, the premium Soul
Speaker 4: on the rock.
Speaker 3: So we got some stuff done, not enough, you know,
Speaker 3: and hopefully we can just pull it all together.
Speaker 1: So there will be another daylight out.
Speaker 4: I mean, without question, it's going to daylight stuff.
Speaker 5: Well I'm in a miss of I'm in the process
Speaker 5: right now working on the trilogy of Artificial Intelligence, the
Speaker 5: third installment.
Speaker 1: Are we breaking news right now? I feel like we're breaking.
Speaker 5: News right now. The third installment is being worked on
Speaker 5: as we speak, Like, yeah, for real, like this what's
Speaker 5: going down? I mean, it was supposed to be a
Speaker 5: DJ related record anyway, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: I'm getting it done. Yeah, and then everybody got one
Speaker 5: and two. Yeah, you know what I'm saying out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were definitely staying with work music coming out, lyrics,
Speaker 3: daylight related stuff. We were here, like me and Mace
Speaker 3: immediately kind of locked in and was just like, yop man,
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta keep this going, like you know,
Speaker 3: as difficult as it. Yeah, Like I hit him with
Speaker 3: the straight like rain more analogy from B Street. I
Speaker 3: was like, yo, man, we gotta turn this nigga's death
Speaker 3: into a celebration. And he really felt that, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, And that's how we really feel, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, sorry to cut you off, I want
Speaker 1: you to get back to what you were saying. But
Speaker 1: I've seen that with Dave Chappelle when I felt like
Speaker 1: y'all counted it down, was like twelve and counted down
Speaker 1: for the thing to come. Like I literally, I literally
Speaker 1: tears came to our mom. And I've seen how Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: was so happy for you. That's that's that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing about you. Like I said I said it earlier,
Speaker 1: I don't see you hate this like I only see
Speaker 1: y'all supporters. And to me, to me, that's some honorable shit,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, to see everybody from
Speaker 1: hip hop just come out and celebrate you guys, like
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: You guys are really eye cars. You guys are really
Speaker 1: letting Yo to speak on that.
Speaker 3: And I saw you were saying, like, Yo, that was
Speaker 3: a joint you wish you was at, and I bugged out.
Speaker 3: I told me, so, I was like, Yo, before Dave's death, dog, Yo,
Speaker 3: you was on my list, Like I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell your fan, I'm going to tell
Speaker 3: I know y'all here. But because this this this party
Speaker 3: was in play Jump. We were even talking about drink
Speaker 3: cham Yeah, so Yo, you were on my list to
Speaker 3: come through. But when everything happened with Dave, it was
Speaker 3: kind of like people in play that this was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: we're going to reach out to these people.
Speaker 4: It was like kind of cool.
Speaker 3: And so when I was bugging when I saw you
Speaker 3: said like Yo, this and this, I said.
Speaker 5: You ain't never needed no invitation, you.
Speaker 1: Know, dude, when I see hip hop celebrates y'all.
Speaker 5: Like I said, you had a tumultuous moment at one time.
Speaker 5: But in that moment, you need to know I.
Speaker 1: Showed up for you.
Speaker 4: About the wild Ship is that I almost.
Speaker 10: Said it last time we was in.
Speaker 1: I really want to.
Speaker 5: Talk me out, thug me out.
Speaker 1: It was kind of it was parade. I don't remember himself,
Speaker 1: Porto Rican Parade.
Speaker 5: I never experienced Puerto Rican Day parade. I don't even
Speaker 5: know what to expect, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: Tommy Boy called me to come d J for CNN,
Speaker 5: you know. And and I was also able to have
Speaker 5: my upcoming rappers rock after I did what I needed
Speaker 5: to do for them, you know. But we got out there.
Speaker 5: I spoke to Norwi two days before for it, trying
Speaker 5: to prep for it. He's like, Nah, don't worry about.
Speaker 1: That, just play the record.
Speaker 5: We're seeing it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, we don't about all that,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: I like, yo, sure you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 5: the one who liked to prepare, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I never experienced Puerto Rican Day parade, you know.
Speaker 5: And I'm looking at it from when I see it
Speaker 5: on TV. I see the floats and the highs rocking
Speaker 5: and ship we get out there and tell me, boy
Speaker 5: got us on like a pickup truck. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. It was all food gazy to begin with.
Speaker 5: It was like I was like, oh ship, I'll get
Speaker 5: out there like, oh ship, already off my.
Speaker 1: Experience doing things. I'm going outside. There's hot mother.
Speaker 5: So I'm already thinking about equipment fucking up and everything.
Speaker 5: And immediately I play a fucking seeing in record and
Speaker 5: it starts noting on the.
Speaker 1: I was getting mad. I'm trying to explain.
Speaker 5: It, like yo. Every time I put the needle on
Speaker 5: the record, the record is woping up, Like I didn't
Speaker 5: expect none of this to be like this period, Like
Speaker 5: I'm literally on a pickup truck while other floats is ship.
Speaker 1: We got a pickup truck?
Speaker 5: When motherfucker's just holding.
Speaker 1: Size, say's right, I'm ready.
Speaker 5: We look like some half fast bad boys ship. And
Speaker 5: he's right, you know, and we all here repper, and
Speaker 5: I see dudes getting frustrated with me because the music.
Speaker 5: This is my perception of it. The music ain't popping
Speaker 5: and riding for a minute and every time. And mind you,
Speaker 5: I done had mad copies of this stuff in my
Speaker 5: crate along with other ship right, my young dudes. They
Speaker 5: stuff was on a hard drive, instant replay.
Speaker 1: So ye, we were professional at all, yees, So it
Speaker 1: wasn't even about the got.
Speaker 5: The whole I called you and I didn't know nothing.
Speaker 5: I didn't know whole ship funning. I like with her,
Speaker 5: solet's stop twenty years talking with me.
Speaker 1: But back then, I'm not gonna lie to you. I
Speaker 1: was young and I just he was treating me how them.
Speaker 5: Young niggas treat him. He was all that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and all we did was our little performances ship, but
Speaker 5: it was knocking. I thought it was knocking out. See
Speaker 5: niggas frustrated. His man tried to grab a mic for
Speaker 5: my man grab he's gonna tested back the show and
Speaker 5: sip rocking and still riving, and ship.
Speaker 2: I went on like beef.
Speaker 5: I knew how the knife.
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 5: The one who was.
Speaker 1: Driving the n he had the knife. It was crazy.
Speaker 5: This is crazy because he was grabbing. The dude that
Speaker 5: he was grabbing the mic from was super timid too,
Speaker 5: so I'm like, no, you're not going to be timid
Speaker 5: with me. And then Nordy came over, like I knew
Speaker 5: he had to be the ambassador. He had all these
Speaker 5: niggas with him, and it was like if he's sayings, go,
Speaker 5: it's got all these yeah, yeah, got these niggas. And
Speaker 5: I did play like at the time, him and Bumpy
Speaker 5: wasn't getting along either, so I did play an intro things.
Speaker 5: Bumpy did a song with me called you Don't want
Speaker 5: to Bust That Ship, and he he's on a song,
Speaker 5: so I played an a cappella version of that before
Speaker 5: we got into our thing.
Speaker 1: You're right, you never be good.
Speaker 5: And then he came memory, he came over, he came out,
Speaker 5: he came over. He's like.
Speaker 1: At the time, I definitely did. We got yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking the rock, got my wife with me.
Speaker 5: I'm like, and it's just like five of us and
Speaker 5: my wife.
Speaker 1: You know, definitely did like time, I definitely did.
Speaker 5: Man if I did anything to offend you, I said,
Speaker 5: but I have to call you Jesus. And I had
Speaker 5: no idea that it was gonna be hot as fucking
Speaker 5: Dickins was gonna melt.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Apology?
Speaker 5: He goes, yeah, all right.
Speaker 10: You.
Speaker 1: Don't cut it out.
Speaker 4: Honestly I was.
Speaker 5: I was hurt for about three hours. But then after
Speaker 5: that I was like, he good man, he good for that,
Speaker 5: because ship that I didn't did you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: I'm getting the ship that I don't.
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, this nigga's definitely terrorized
Speaker 3: some sound man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had my fashion.
Speaker 1: Did y'all listen to new artists got into this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who oh man.
Speaker 4: It's really hard to say.
Speaker 5: Man, it's it's just like more songs than I could
Speaker 5: say album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, like I like to lose the UZI Bird.
Speaker 5: I like him a lot. At you got a beat
Speaker 5: that I take works for him? I don't know. I
Speaker 5: keep talk about I messed with him. I mean, I
Speaker 5: got I got kids that's in their twenties and thirties,
Speaker 5: So we talked music all the time. My son raps.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Wow. Yeah pretty good, you
Speaker 5: know Wow. And and I said, d J, I just
Speaker 5: DEJ have a producer. I look to stay connected and
Speaker 5: I'm always trying to learn. I stay a students of
Speaker 5: this ship.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: And they got to keep learning. It can go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Been gave up on this new generation.
Speaker 4: Man, Man, it's out there.
Speaker 1: You've never seen have been playing nothing new.
Speaker 3: But it's out there, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 3: you said, like it could be oozy, it could be.
Speaker 1: Ben gave up Man Curry from Miami for one carry.
Speaker 1: He's older than you is dope PVT. Okay.
Speaker 2: The Russell Russell's Dopel Russell said, you know the Russell Yeah,
Speaker 2: from the Bay the Rush. Yeah, a lot of there's
Speaker 2: a lot of kids out here that doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. We coders fifty years old, y'all fifty You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I remember when we came. The generation
Speaker 5: before us wasn't fucking with us. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I think what ended up happening, and what ended up
Speaker 5: happening is cats become a force to be wrecking with.
Speaker 5: You may not like it, but it's in your conversation.
Speaker 5: You know, you gotta at least figure out what it is.
Speaker 5: It's got these kids rocking to it, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. And I learned from George Clinton. Anything that
Speaker 5: makes the parents upset, it's rocking.
Speaker 1: It's so he's ecrasically said that on the show. Yeah
Speaker 1: a lot too. He's still here smoked a lot, oh man, yeah,
Speaker 1: said the more they hated on, he's more interested, more interested.
Speaker 1: Drake too. I did not think he's going to drake, but.
Speaker 3: Mind you, it was not to cut you, but like
Speaker 3: me and him was just we did Coachella with gorillas.
Speaker 1: We did. He was showing me all the clips. He's
Speaker 1: like yo. It was like.
Speaker 3: The second weekend we hung out with our sons, you know,
Speaker 3: with my youngest son. He was two of his sons,
Speaker 3: and it was just dope, you know, my son taking
Speaker 3: me to different stages like yop, yeah, what these kids
Speaker 3: I think they.
Speaker 4: Call suicide Kings or something like that.
Speaker 3: So it was just dope to see because I studied
Speaker 3: that the crowds reaction what they're doing, because we always
Speaker 3: students of looking out people.
Speaker 5: Rocket stage, stage presence, all.
Speaker 4: Of the It's a lot, man, it means a lot,
Speaker 4: you know. So I'm into all that and.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, but I think also the way that we used
Speaker 2: to discover music is different. So for us in our generation,
Speaker 2: like we want to like physically like be it somewhere,
Speaker 2: and we saw these mcs coming up in the club
Speaker 2: at a battle or DJ played in the club when
Speaker 2: it was all new. Now, streaming for me is harder
Speaker 2: to get into newer artists because it's so much.
Speaker 3: It's so much. It's definitely a lot, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I agree with you, but I sometimes go down a
Speaker 3: rabbit hole with it. Like you know, you into one
Speaker 3: artist and they'll say, Yo, if you like this artist,
Speaker 3: here's a similar artist, and you just kind of just
Speaker 3: keep going with it.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I know where you're at with that. That's why
Speaker 5: people to put me on the ship. Yeah, I'd rather
Speaker 5: get recommended in that aspect because it is a rabbit hole.
Speaker 5: You'll go deep down and you'll get caught up in
Speaker 5: your own personal feelings of what you like as opposed
Speaker 5: of balancing it out for at least meet for a djy,
Speaker 5: I try to balance it out.
Speaker 1: If it does not, he's exactly I mean, like he
Speaker 1: has the name one artists you noticed that I did.
Speaker 1: Does it carry?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: L Russell.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what I'm saying. His
Speaker 2: name is Russell and what what what's the coach contract?
Speaker 2: Doesn't believe you at all. People support them as as
Speaker 2: much as I can't socially.
Speaker 3: Social media, but even down with you know, anyone alchemist
Speaker 3: is from producing, you know June, Larry June is dope,
Speaker 3: Autumn cats man, Yeah there you go.
Speaker 5: Symbols yeah man, that.
Speaker 1: And alchemists and all of them are messing with crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah ship that Larry June, now join with him and
Speaker 3: Dick Sean that random facts.
Speaker 1: I called them the other days with my kids.
Speaker 5: People don't talk about enough. It's yo off, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just the level of music, nativity, you could
Speaker 3: strip individuality, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: He got bars, he could spit, you know, that's we
Speaker 5: live in that cipher. I could put them in a
Speaker 5: cipher with some savages and he'll live.
Speaker 4: Yeah real.
Speaker 2: But you know what's dope about now for artists like
Speaker 2: that is that they don't need the gatekeepers.
Speaker 1: They don't to.
Speaker 2: Find their audience. We're all talking about different artists. Everybody's like,
Speaker 2: who what what? And each of these artis were mentioning
Speaker 2: have millions of followers do their shows festivals. They don't
Speaker 2: need us to even know who they are because they
Speaker 2: found their audience. And that's what's dope about it. It's
Speaker 2: really dope and funny enough.
Speaker 3: As we was talking about a little bit earlier, it
Speaker 3: was artists like that who championed on behalf of us
Speaker 3: because like they were saying, like, yoday Ala deserve this ship,
Speaker 3: like they could walk that ship for us because they
Speaker 3: felt like, yo, I don't got no one over us.
Speaker 4: You're like, honestly, I got no problem saying it.
Speaker 3: It was like this one lawyer on their side who
Speaker 3: was like talking to our lawyer and was like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: I got I got clients that don't want to fuck
Speaker 3: with me because they know that I'm trying to not
Speaker 3: fuck with day long. You know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 3: trying to like fuck they ship up on behalf of
Speaker 3: telling you, boy, like that's how much these young artists
Speaker 3: had our backs we never met, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That that's beautiful man, Thomas Lie, Let's go. You want
Speaker 1: to explay in the game, you guys get two choices.
Speaker 2: We picked one. We don't drink if you pick both
Speaker 2: are neither. We're drinking all of us a drink. Okay,
Speaker 2: hold on, I said time, you get two choices. You
Speaker 2: get two choices. A person plays it like a person
Speaker 2: places choices. Let me explain two choices. If you if
Speaker 2: you pick one the non politically correct answer, you pick
Speaker 2: one of the two nobody drinks. If you say both
Speaker 2: or neither, which would be the politically correct answer. If
Speaker 2: you don't want to hurt feelings or you really mean both,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, then we then were drinking.
Speaker 1: Before we say that a birthday that just passed, Happy
Speaker 1: birthday to our brother. Least you give it is happy birthday, broom.
Speaker 1: The second guy, huh and we got you, got you?
Speaker 1: We got your kicking ice cream too? Sorry said yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you ready. I ain't get it though. Uh
Speaker 1: you can start to like, Okay, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: the second one. You go to the first one. You
Speaker 1: saw this face because I want to go.
Speaker 4: I want to got Holy Ship.
Speaker 1: Quest or Jungle Brothers. Damn y'all answer that way too fast.
Speaker 4: Let me get my shot ready.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you go to the first one.
Speaker 4: Black daughter styles p wow mm hmmm.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You got your right there, right there. So I love
Speaker 1: that's right. That's more like.
Speaker 4: You're like, God, damn, I can't.
Speaker 1: Indie or major. This is a big debate here. It's
Speaker 1: a big debate here. Me and him always disagree.
Speaker 5: How you had the experience of both, you know, and
Speaker 5: and I don't give.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 5: I can see indis doing business with majors.
Speaker 1: You know this, This is what I say too.
Speaker 2: That's I say, being independence, you could take advantage of
Speaker 2: the major.
Speaker 5: Yo, man. That's how it's been since the beginning. Tom
Speaker 5: Siverman did it like that like that? You know, Racous
Speaker 5: Rocks did it like that. You know, it's been like
Speaker 5: that since the beginning of the time, right, So I
Speaker 5: don't see that ever being an issue. It's just all
Speaker 5: about how to deal with the structure, period.
Speaker 1: So that sounds like a shot.
Speaker 5: That's both.
Speaker 1: Listen here, yeah, m.
Speaker 5: I look, thank you, thank you. Sip Okay. He started
Speaker 5: drinking till he was like forty. He started drinking till
Speaker 5: he was forty.
Speaker 3: He started the chance I smoked weed for the first time.
Speaker 3: Well I did it that.
Speaker 4: I took ahead.
Speaker 5: That was some sucker ship what.
Speaker 10: He and I did it without him? He said, it
Speaker 10: was like we made up without you. Yeah, be mad, Yes,
Speaker 10: I be mad too.
Speaker 1: If he smokes some weed with somebody else other than me,
Speaker 1: you slightly.
Speaker 5: Get a past because it was with Chappelle, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, even Chappelle know better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chappelle and Prince gets a pass. If you smoke
Speaker 1: with Prince, I won't be mad, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah.
Speaker 5: And he snacks me from Chaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was.
Speaker 3: It was kind of after the Webster Hall joint. Chappelle
Speaker 3: went to do something some comedy ship. I fucked with him,
Speaker 3: and then afterwards he did like this little toast to
Speaker 3: Dave and he was just like, you know, we have
Speaker 3: already did like like ten shots. Yeah, And so he
Speaker 3: was just by himself and I was standing there and
Speaker 3: he was just in his own mind. He was like
Speaker 3: for a Dave and he took a puff and I
Speaker 3: snatched it and I said the same thing, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: that was my alarm and yeah. So everyone saw me
Speaker 3: do it and bugged out immediate. It was like smiles,
Speaker 3: my my romance, like puff. My wife was like there like, no,
Speaker 3: I can't tell niggas because I had already.
Speaker 1: Did like eight shots.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 4: I really don't know, honest, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you want to go? I got this one?
Speaker 1: Q tip or for real Q tip tun.
Speaker 2: Alright, black Star, that Press Blacks, Black Star, Jesus Tupac
Speaker 2: or d m X, Nigga, good.
Speaker 1: Pretmore Pete Rock.
Speaker 5: I gotta take a shot, nigga.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is a good one. You got it? You
Speaker 1: want me? You'll think you should say, Jada Kisser, Nos.
Speaker 5: I gotta take a shot. I gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: Okay, did that go for both of y'all?
Speaker 5: I gotta take a shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm taking you got someone for that one.
Speaker 5: Got some MC brain going on, right, I'm a big.
Speaker 8: He's definitely breaking down some lyrics, break some shipp down
Speaker 8: over digging it alright.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, bars, let it go, let it go. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Beach Street or Cruss Groove Street.
Speaker 1: They and cahoots though when they together, that's like that's
Speaker 1: that Yeah, easy.
Speaker 6: Ear Nipsey easy easy yeah, yehead big E or big
Speaker 6: L big big piece of both big.
Speaker 1: Sorry okay, eighties or nineties hip hop nineties nineties mm
Speaker 1: hmmm nineties niddy nineties. Yeah, I'm going nineties to nineties
Speaker 1: hip hop Red Alert or Ca Capri, Ca Capri, Oh surprise,
Speaker 1: hm hmm it is I was for DJ. It's tough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's tough one based on what they're both really
Speaker 5: great at.
Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't make one not great. But you're
Speaker 4: gonna make me choose Capri.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to choose Capri overall worldwide. What he's
Speaker 5: done in the arenas, he's actually Capri is Actually that's
Speaker 5: been the first DJ to make the DJ actually look
Speaker 5: like an artist.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And for for selling selling out like he was getting.
Speaker 5: Not more, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And for the record that these questions are are meant
Speaker 2: to because we want to talk about all these legends conversations,
Speaker 2: not one of the.
Speaker 5: Question first to grab the mic raped the crowd maybe
Speaker 5: next to DJ Hollywood, But wait, Capri does it? Truly?
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down in the day with
Speaker 1: my Honeybull. Give me something of that young young young
Speaker 1: you know Kuji rapper d.
Speaker 5: Rap.
Speaker 1: We need could you wrap on here? Yeah? We do
Speaker 1: money love or rock shant Shante Rock.
Speaker 5: Shan shantea Rocks and rock money my sister.
Speaker 1: But rock and we was trying to were trying to
Speaker 1: get money the guest host here. Yeah, alright, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the next one.
Speaker 2: Rick Ross and Fat Joe, Fat John, Fat Joe, rock
Speaker 2: Yim mccarros one Cross one Caress one Look next, Big
Speaker 2: Pun of Guru, Big Pun of Guru. Yeah, Pun Pun
Speaker 2: rest in peace.
Speaker 1: I love how they don't say they don't even look
Speaker 1: at each other. They ain't even looking at each other.
Speaker 1: I'm watching all the human behavior. They're good man, m
Speaker 1: O per mob deep mob.
Speaker 4: Deep Wow, m O p is m o p Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So that means we're drinking. I think we gotta drink.
Speaker 2: You guys don't have to drink. You guys have we
Speaker 2: got a drink.
Speaker 1: I gotta drink. We gotta drink.
Speaker 5: Mop from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta drink. No, you don't have to l
Speaker 1: or Big Daddy King, I drink. LL mentioned me in
Speaker 1: another day. That's how you went live with them last night.
Speaker 1: The last night I went live, I didn't say you
Speaker 1: was a lie because you was in the live a lot.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: You didn't even know you was aline. The comments was hilarious.
Speaker 2: You're doing drink chats right now. I'm welcome in the morning.
Speaker 1: It was Charlie mcanel ain't you I don't remember nothing.
Speaker 1: O my god. I looked, I said, why are you
Speaker 1: taking me? I was mad because like, no, you got
Speaker 1: drenk chants tomorrow? What the fuck are you doing drink
Speaker 1: chants right now? Oh?
Speaker 5: My bad?
Speaker 1: We got yesterday man. Queen Latifa or MC light, which
Speaker 1: is a great verses. By the way, we need both
Speaker 1: of them here, please one.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to go with a lot of Tifa
Speaker 5: mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Queen Latio.
Speaker 1: Queen, this is my my favorite.
Speaker 4: You didn't have to drink.
Speaker 1: You had to drink. Okay, okay, damn this is my favorite.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite one of all of these questions. Wu
Speaker 1: Tang or n w A tang Whu tang that's the
Speaker 1: East coast jump right out of here? Right out of
Speaker 1: here is amazing.
Speaker 5: But yes, I would say n w A has been
Speaker 5: one of the biggest inspirations, especially for as live show.
Speaker 3: Also, we toured with them in eight and it was
Speaker 3: a must have been. It was the Nitral tour to
Speaker 3: Slick Rick.
Speaker 1: N w A.
Speaker 4: Caine Publican me E P M D definitely went to Nah.
Speaker 5: Everybody came with they. It was the new giant.
Speaker 3: It was the new Ones.
Speaker 1: So what did you get from n w A that
Speaker 1: you yo? They had inspired you.
Speaker 3: The most incredible stage show, I mean their stage presence
Speaker 3: that it was like watching a Broadway play.
Speaker 4: They had the girls on the.
Speaker 5: On they had the ship set up like a block
Speaker 5: and on the street pole with holes on the corner
Speaker 5: like that, D drake d J and on two guys
Speaker 5: and shipped I mean yellow DJ and on two guyage car.
Speaker 5: They got police sirens on the speakers, and ship rises
Speaker 5: and ship when niggas are jumping off, they bring out
Speaker 5: D O C first, then no first and not d.
Speaker 3: C O C first, then yellow and then yellow go
Speaker 3: up and DJ dre and and wrint comes out of
Speaker 3: these like man whole ships.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was amazing, Yeah, I've never heard of then then
Speaker 3: cube and then easy. They kind of did for me
Speaker 3: what I felt like Wu Tang should have did, like
Speaker 3: in terms of breaking it up supposed to coming out
Speaker 3: always all together.
Speaker 4: They really like, well.
Speaker 5: Who started to do not they began to do it
Speaker 5: later because I remember one show we did with them
Speaker 5: in like Switzerland somewhere Denmarkers and they all came out
Speaker 5: one by one woman My one, and the way we
Speaker 5: brought Cap Donna. I was fucking nuts. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, n w A definitely, but fu tang I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I remember I was on the tour with Keith Berry
Speaker 1: and Method Man was hosting this show. So before I
Speaker 1: would come on Method Man with Cole and he would
Speaker 1: hype up the crowd, and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want you to hype up the crowd. Can you you
Speaker 1: want Keith Mary's tall bus? Can you stay on Keith
Speaker 1: Mary setting? That's it? Like I remember being so mad
Speaker 1: because who then wants to go after a person walking
Speaker 1: on people's heads? He was walking. I don't want to
Speaker 1: do and I can't. I can't fit that. I can't
Speaker 1: go if I'm walking people hands, somebody gonna fall, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Somebody gonna fall. It's gonna be something. Well,
Speaker 1: I remember Dad a bigger methet man without question. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's put this this up and then we'll get
Speaker 1: back to the end. Video music box or your m
Speaker 1: TV raps, video music video music box, Big old Ralph
Speaker 1: Mcdanie's all right, Uncle Ralph? Yeah, Nino Brown or Frank White.
Speaker 4: Around of Frank White, Nino Brown.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, Brown, I love, I love how you had to
Speaker 1: figure about this one.
Speaker 5: There, Like New Jack City was dope.
Speaker 4: Frank was quiet with his ruthlessness. So I know what
Speaker 4: you're going for.
Speaker 5: I know, I don't know if New Jack City was
Speaker 5: really based on a true story, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That's halfway, you know, because it was what is it
Speaker 1: supposed to be based on? On the Carter? Right, that's
Speaker 1: what it like.
Speaker 5: It's based on a couple of people's story right, right, right,
Speaker 5: I gotta go with Frank White.
Speaker 1: That means we gotta drink. That means Solo May didn't
Speaker 1: have to drink that. What's crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting, you know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to say that there's a there's a there's
Speaker 1: a story about what Scarface is based on. Scarface is
Speaker 1: based on five different characters from from Miami, the Cowboy,
Speaker 1: Cocaine Cowboy. So it's crazy because Scarface is based on
Speaker 1: a real story. But it's based on five different individuals,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they put them together
Speaker 1: and it's crazy because I know one of them.
Speaker 11: Huh huh.
Speaker 1: No, it's not based on Mackey Monday. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the guy that own seetees Like this guy, he looks
Speaker 1: so cool. He wear glasses and then and then you'll
Speaker 1: just sit there and you're like, hey, so how you doing.
Speaker 1: You know, like, hey man, you know I used to
Speaker 1: show drunks in the future, Like what the fuck? Because
Speaker 1: he looks so cool. You're like, no, it's no way.
Speaker 1: He's Oh my God, like you gotta meet it. He's hilarious.
Speaker 1: I was. I was sitting down having lunch. I was
Speaker 1: sitting down having Damn. I was having a regular salad.
Speaker 1: I was sitting having lunch and he saw me, and
Speaker 1: then Fat Joe came into the restaurant. Off it was
Speaker 1: like some ironic ship, and he was like, I just
Speaker 1: knew this guy with somebody. So he said it to
Speaker 1: Fat Joe about me. He was like, I knew it's
Speaker 1: somebody And I looked and I couldn't. I couldn't because
Speaker 1: he looks like like a normal person until he says
Speaker 1: something he's not normal, is not normally, like in the
Speaker 1: moment I told you he got this ship. I told
Speaker 1: you he's in the book, and he hates it because
Speaker 1: like how they described him, he hates But it's crazy
Speaker 1: when I say that that's what Needo Brown is kind
Speaker 1: of like based on Okay, this is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite questions too, anal or digital analog. I'm an analog.
Speaker 1: I always say analog is better because, like, if we
Speaker 1: had to do a record together, we had to be
Speaker 1: face to face. You couldn't send me a two inch rail.
Speaker 1: You couldn't send me a real like those reels was
Speaker 1: like little doors, like so like you couldn't little sorry
Speaker 1: you mean it like that, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like like a session in the nineties shaped like you
Speaker 1: had the whole album edited by cutting the tape. I
Speaker 1: always tell people, I said, Yo, super Thug is one take.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people don't understand what what what what?
Speaker 1: I did that in one take because I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to punch in Yeah what what what? What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What? What?
Speaker 2: One?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What? What? What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What what? That's how I counted bars. So that's the
Speaker 1: reason why. Yeah, and I had to do this in
Speaker 1: one take. So when I left, I remember for real saying,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, what we need is a hook. Brother,
Speaker 1: we got the hook and I said, no, we don't,
Speaker 1: and he took my ones out. What what what? What?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What what one what what? What? What? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: What to what?
Speaker 1: He took those out and he left it there. I
Speaker 1: was like, they're gonna laugh at me, and he said,
Speaker 1: you're gonna laughed on the way to the bank around
Speaker 1: Thank you? You are right, all right? Sorry later let
Speaker 1: me admit it. Yeah, man, this is I'm so excited. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's the last one for this and this is the
Speaker 1: only one that I really feel like. Isn't a trick
Speaker 1: question loyalty or respect?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I say respect.
Speaker 5: Yes, I said circumstantial for the most part, because the
Speaker 5: person who is loyal to you can lose respect for
Speaker 5: you but still stay loyal to you. You know, there's
Speaker 5: that loyalty that's attached to love that people can be
Speaker 5: unconditionally attached to, but they don't necessarily respect you. Will
Speaker 5: lose respect for you, but behind behind something you've done,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So, but the deep rooted
Speaker 5: love can remain their loyalty.
Speaker 4: That's why.
Speaker 5: Respect though you cannot necessarily have anyone's trust.
Speaker 1: Damn, you got too deep.
Speaker 5: I'll say. You got to have it all. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: got to have it both. You know, you gotta have
Speaker 5: the loyalty and the respect you know, because is when
Speaker 5: you also a person who's conditioned with a lot of
Speaker 5: loyalty and you feel like you lost respect. That's something like,
Speaker 5: you know, that's since a pride you lose when we
Speaker 5: feel like people don't you lose respect from the people
Speaker 5: you love? Right?
Speaker 1: I love it. I love that.
Speaker 5: You know, we family?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: I always wanted to ask y'all, like I went through
Speaker 1: your catalog one of my favorite records. Every Saturday, I
Speaker 1: want to hear Saturday. Did y'all make that record on Saturday?
Speaker 3: But the crazy thing is I put that record together
Speaker 3: and it wasn't for Daylight Boom what go for it?
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: Amongst us as natives getting together.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We started do in these like little side groups where
Speaker 3: like say Mace, Dave, Mike G and Sammy B. Was
Speaker 3: supposed to be this thing like another.
Speaker 5: Dude from my neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pop life. They're supposed to be kids on Zen
Speaker 4: and five.
Speaker 5: Me almost like a parliament type of thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, groups, Okay, you know, okay, cute Q, Tip Africa,
Speaker 3: Juju from be Nuts and me.
Speaker 4: We were the fabulous fleas.
Speaker 1: Wait wait talking about yeah, see it again?
Speaker 2: Tip q Tip Africa. Jungle Juju from the Beating Nuts
Speaker 2: was also native to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and me forgot that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we first was really starting to hang around Jungle,
Speaker 3: Juju was always with Africa then because Juju like they
Speaker 3: beat shop together. So I thought Juju was a part
Speaker 3: of Jungle because Juju was always with Jungle because they
Speaker 3: used to him and him in Africa with like shot
Speaker 3: for records. But uh, yeah, we were Fabulous Flees. We
Speaker 3: did a demo and everything. Yeah, fabulous fleas Juju did
Speaker 3: I got, I Got the Table. But Juju did this
Speaker 3: one record. It was called Fabius Fleas. Uh, Africa did
Speaker 3: this joint called the Night I Got Swatted.
Speaker 1: It was banging.
Speaker 3: Tip did this joint. So I had to come up
Speaker 3: with something. I was like, damn man, this ship is crazy.
Speaker 3: So it's just one record I found overseas, the Mighty
Speaker 3: Writers Record.
Speaker 4: I put that together.
Speaker 3: I put all the stuff together, the beat and everything,
Speaker 3: and I became a roller skating jam called Saturdays. And
Speaker 3: the rhym style was based off of Chic when it
Speaker 3: was like you know, please girls. So that's how we
Speaker 3: were suppoed to rhyma with the record.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile Tommy boy was sitting us like, yo, man, everything
Speaker 3: is coming out dope. This Ringing Ring record is dope,
Speaker 3: but we need something else. So I asked him, I said, yo, man,
Speaker 3: can I take this back and use it for Daylight?
Speaker 3: And it was like yeah, heah, go ahead, And so
Speaker 3: the rhyme style became more of a singing thing. Five
Speaker 3: days you work, one whole day you're playing, and it
Speaker 3: wound up being Vinnire singing it.
Speaker 4: And she just saw yeah, yeah, Davin, it was a question.
Speaker 1: Holy ship, and I had to say, ray wing Ring,
Speaker 1: I had that in my less But that's also buddy,
Speaker 1: how did how did this record come come about?
Speaker 3: Jungle have showed up that day. If they would have
Speaker 3: showed up the day after, they could have been on
Speaker 3: ghetto thing. They just showed up the day was working
Speaker 3: on that record. Literally, it wasn't like a planned thing.
Speaker 3: They they came by the studio that day we was
Speaker 3: working on that record, and then we just kind of
Speaker 3: made it where like, yeah, y'all talked about Jimmy, we
Speaker 3: talked about Jenny. When Jimmy and Jenny get together, what
Speaker 3: is it? It's buddy. So that's how that record kind
Speaker 3: of came together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just just like that.
Speaker 1: Your Oh, I didn't know that. I'm just saying like
Speaker 1: I just now discovered that. Holy Jenny, and.
Speaker 5: That's how you know you.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, Jimmy's the man anatomy, Jennifer's the girl,
Speaker 3: and that you put it together sex bud.
Speaker 1: But that's what let me ask about native tongue, right,
Speaker 1: because I actually had a native tongue t shirt on,
Speaker 1: but I put it on and it was too tight
Speaker 1: on me. Let me, let me get my life together.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm glad because between me and looking crazy,
Speaker 1: but that was like like to me, like I said,
Speaker 1: native tongue. When I thought of that, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that that was like a crew like like almost like right,
Speaker 1: and you don't see that no more. You don't see like, uh,
Speaker 1: a Q tip running around with like a day I sould.
Speaker 1: You don't see a bust of rhymes running around with
Speaker 1: you know these? How was it being a part of
Speaker 1: native tongue?
Speaker 5: How was that?
Speaker 3: I mean, we were just friends, man, I know it
Speaker 3: sounds weird to say that, meaning like when we came
Speaker 3: into this and were running around with Paul.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Prince Paul could be working with m see.
Speaker 3: Light so then that's how we started hanging around on
Speaker 3: First Priority Music, which was Light and Audio two.
Speaker 5: And so it was my first record I ever mixed.
Speaker 4: Down was like swinging yeah with Prince Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Prince Paul you yo, it was just like
Speaker 3: you were happy to be down dull, right because before
Speaker 3: we came out, we were in the Latin quarters and
Speaker 3: we would see, Yo, they go Caine, they go this person, Yo,
Speaker 3: they go Greg Nights. So like when you on you
Speaker 3: hanging with everybody, it just becomes like, but who after
Speaker 3: the day on day you really hang around with and
Speaker 3: it just became jungle. Jungle brought through Tip. So then
Speaker 3: Tip is down and then we meet Fife and Ali.
Speaker 3: You know, we just became cruel like that, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, but it just showed up at Calliope.
Speaker 1: I just feel like Buster was just yelling the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: He sounded when I met When I met Buster, Buster
Speaker 3: had to been sixteen, and he sounded exactly the same
Speaker 3: way like his voice Like I just couldn't believe he
Speaker 3: was sixteen.
Speaker 1: Bust the called me the other day, I kid you
Speaker 1: not right like three times, So I'm thinking someone died
Speaker 1: so I picked up. He's like, yo, god, I just
Speaker 1: want to let you know I changed your lyric on
Speaker 1: the vocals cover me three times because he's the lost story.
Speaker 1: We got all money right remixed together, and like he's
Speaker 1: such a he's such an artist artist that I had
Speaker 1: said twenty two on the record, but it's the year
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So he changed it, and he wanted
Speaker 1: to show me that respect, say, you know, you know
Speaker 1: I changed your vocals. But I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's bust around you, brother. I respect you. But he's
Speaker 1: just very he's an artist, artist, yes, for real, scientist, anythingcredible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you go.
Speaker 1: Ever, yet he don't mind about his sneakers.
Speaker 2: Going back to the native tongues and don't amost seemed
Speaker 2: like an extension of Zulu.
Speaker 1: Was everybody a part of Zulu?
Speaker 4: Not at that point, maybe Mike Mike and.
Speaker 5: He became a part of Yeah he did, he actually did. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but more yeah, more so those guys. I was definitely
Speaker 5: heavily associated, being around all the time. Yeah, and I
Speaker 5: think I've stayed associated longer than everyone else. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it was all native tongue was definitely an extension of
Speaker 5: Zulu nation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a relationship with Africa Bado.
Speaker 5: I had a relationship with Bam. I toured with Bam,
Speaker 5: Me Bam, Arthur Baker, Uh Danny Automata, we did the
Speaker 5: Tommy Boy twentieth Anniversary tour.
Speaker 4: We would see Bam a lot though.
Speaker 5: We were running to a lot of DJ getting yeah.
Speaker 3: And just seeing hanging out being blessed to hang out
Speaker 3: at Red Aler's crib and you know, all those records,
Speaker 3: and you know, then heading up to the Bronx and
Speaker 3: you would see like we would be with the Violators,
Speaker 3: so we were running to Bam. We would see Jazzy
Speaker 3: j So, yeah, man, it was it was you said
Speaker 3: you was violating you you run the violators? Yes, you
Speaker 3: know they ran with Red you know they they they
Speaker 3: kept him right, you know Baby Chris, So going up
Speaker 3: into the Bronx and messing with Baby Chris and all them.
Speaker 3: We were, you know, occasionally running to Bam and them
Speaker 3: up there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because we had crazy Legs
Speaker 1: on here, right, and Crazy Legs kind of implied that
Speaker 1: there was other people that was rocking the parties other
Speaker 1: than Cool HERK. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He said that Bambada bestowed it onto herk that that
Speaker 2: that mental of him being the first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of that was his senior kind
Speaker 1: of hurt my feelings because I had never heard that before.
Speaker 1: But other people say that as well. But what does
Speaker 1: y'all take on that? Like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drink to that. Okay, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means.
Speaker 5: Because I've witnessed that. I've witnessed to be debatable.
Speaker 1: Because many people debated crazy Legs, they did not debate them.
Speaker 1: Was called and doubled it down and we will get
Speaker 1: cool her to come here. But her is that doesn't
Speaker 1: take away anything is, for lack of a better term,
Speaker 1: the godfather, right, Yeah, So I him that.
Speaker 5: I honestly give him that. I mean, it's something that
Speaker 5: I've been identified with identifying with since I was a child,
Speaker 5: and you know, the first story to be told. I'm
Speaker 5: granted it's even debatable when they even talk about.
Speaker 4: What was going on in Brooklyn and there about to
Speaker 4: say yea, but for.
Speaker 5: That to be is a monumental event that people identify
Speaker 5: with Cedric Concida like that happened to be a dope
Speaker 5: fucking party obviously, you know what I'm saying that people
Speaker 5: kept going to not to take anything from anyone else,
Speaker 5: but it seemed like the ods was always on the
Speaker 5: Bronx and Manhattan, specifically Harlem when it came to the
Speaker 5: culture to begin with.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean anyone's history quite honestly, all is
Speaker 3: it's debatable. I mean, like what daylaw story we Long Island.
Speaker 3: No it's not, you know, but no, he was born
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. I was born in the Bronx. Dave was
Speaker 3: from Brooklyn. We moved to Long Island. Like there's this
Speaker 3: aspects of everyone's story that you can turn around and
Speaker 3: be like, oh wow, extra p He wasn't necessarily like
Speaker 3: maybe born in Queens.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's from Halem.
Speaker 1: Like no, one ain't from where they you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, like, I think every.
Speaker 3: Aspect of the story, there's always another layer to the story.
Speaker 3: Is like he just said, like what that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that Brooklyn started rocking. Once Bronx was rocking, Brooklyn was
Speaker 3: up and running the same way. Whose story gets told first,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, and individually as a group, each of you have
Speaker 2: your own perspective and might see things your own history,
Speaker 2: even differently.
Speaker 5: Definitely, Well we've seen things that we've experienced things right right,
Speaker 5: based on where he coming from from the Bronx and
Speaker 5: me coming from Brooklyn and then migrating to Long Island,
Speaker 5: our journeys was different within hip hop.
Speaker 3: Dog, I was a little I'm sorry because I was
Speaker 3: a little kid when the blackout happened.
Speaker 1: My mama was eighty eight.
Speaker 3: That was that was seventy seventy seventy eight or seventy six,
Speaker 3: and the blackout happened, Yo, all chaos south side my window.
Speaker 3: My mother wouldn't let me look out the window. And
Speaker 3: that's when hip hop right God is you know God really?
Speaker 3: Because everyone was still in equipment. We hear every city,
Speaker 3: I respect you.
Speaker 1: Hey do.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I heard that Rob Swiss podcast.
Speaker 2: He talked about that that everybody stole the equipment and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, everyone had an exclusive club that
Speaker 2: was dj J Yeah yeah, executioner.
Speaker 1: Yeah he does. Yeah yeah, that's one of the dogest
Speaker 1: DJs executions yeah crew.
Speaker 2: And so he was saying that and he his what
Speaker 2: he's thrown out in terms of like his perspective and
Speaker 2: the dj the history and the DJs is amazing and
Speaker 2: check it out because.
Speaker 1: Because we're trying to get d J e f N
Speaker 1: to go back to DJ. I still rob. He just
Speaker 1: wanted to go buy you though, I'm you want to
Speaker 1: have borings right there carrying great transition. I want to
Speaker 1: to DJ my birthday, like I didn't tell you dog.
Speaker 5: Like this, if I gave you these certain files, you
Speaker 5: might make a transition. Because that's certain files. Is only
Speaker 5: amongst the homies.
Speaker 2: Because Native Instruments they sponsored me, and I didn't make
Speaker 2: the chance.
Speaker 1: I love it, but I love my missed. Missed didn't
Speaker 1: move on? Is a DJ DJ?
Speaker 3: I mean us being on the road and Mace had
Speaker 3: to carry his crate that struggle.
Speaker 1: People don't know what that is. Fucked up now back
Speaker 1: you know, I remember one time I was with he
Speaker 1: was performing in Detroit and uh rest peace jam massa J,
Speaker 1: and I told my DJ like go go get the equipment,
Speaker 1: go and jump on real quick, and jam Master J
Speaker 1: would not let Frock touch his equipment. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: didn't know.
Speaker 5: That was like a.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Like he was like, you don't
Speaker 1: I'm going to DJ putting normy right now. But it's
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, you don't know whitness it he said,
Speaker 1: no one touches my equipment. And I was people, what's
Speaker 1: set up their setups next to each other. There were
Speaker 1: different DJs rocking, yeah.
Speaker 5: DJ said us almost like a drum kit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, niggas, I would be bringing my whole that's putting
Speaker 1: it all together.
Speaker 5: Technology has evolved, it's been able to make us work together.
Speaker 5: But prior to that, it's just everybody got a certain
Speaker 5: hand weight, the way they structure their needles and all
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 1: And you don't have pennies. Yes, some people got nickels,
Speaker 1: depending how your hand is right, so look out how
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 5: It was always an understood thing for those who really respect. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you don't want you don't even want to rock on
Speaker 5: the next man's set.
Speaker 1: Like I remember going to clubs and I remember like
Speaker 1: funk Master Flex would like tell the DJ before him,
Speaker 1: do not play these certain records. I would be like,
Speaker 1: what So, I don't know if that's like a respect
Speaker 1: thing too. It's like, if I'm the headliner, you can't
Speaker 1: play the record before me that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you exhaust the records that you know are going
Speaker 2: to party in the headline DJ. He wants that for himself.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's debating amongst DJ because the good
Speaker 2: DJ could play the same record in a different way,
Speaker 2: in different ways, and yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know, and yeah, that's a debatable thing and not being
Speaker 5: a thing. I always took pride in being the DJ
Speaker 5: that played the B side.
Speaker 1: On the right.
Speaker 5: Is one of my favorite DJ even I even wait
Speaker 5: in terms, the hit record is not a hit anymore.
Speaker 5: I didn't play it later. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: You know, like a memory thing.
Speaker 1: I like telling.
Speaker 2: I like telling the story through through the way the
Speaker 2: records that I'm playing, I'm telling you a story through.
Speaker 1: That's the way I like to play the records. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna play again, She's I want to come out.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Look, I have so much respect for DJing. DJing didn't
Speaker 2: come naturally to me. I didn't have any mentors. I
Speaker 2: was watching videos like I was getting whatever. However, I
Speaker 2: could absorb the skill and I was just but I
Speaker 2: would practice for hours upon hours before I had a
Speaker 2: club night or a set anywhere.
Speaker 1: And then once we started.
Speaker 2: Doing different things and doing like those practice hours weren't
Speaker 2: coming in anymore. And then the technology changed, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: out of respect to this art form unless I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put in those hours.
Speaker 1: I'm not going back on the sets. That's how I am.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing right now. If I'm not gonna go all
Speaker 1: the way in, I'm not. I'm not gonna do it
Speaker 1: no more so. I'm sorry that everybody so natural to
Speaker 1: you though, sorry to everybody he asked me for verses. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I like this shit like this, this is respect, I
Speaker 1: get it, but I'm what you want in my neighborhood
Speaker 1: is DJ Crazed, one of the DJs in the world.
Speaker 5: Incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at that.
Speaker 5: I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, this guy is.
Speaker 5: Inspired me, like Rob Swift.
Speaker 4: Of Control, the beat junkies like Boogie Blind, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Goos Down, you know all of them. Dudes. Man,
Speaker 5: you know they don't even get the respect they deserve.
Speaker 1: It's something that I'm gonna take a shot.
Speaker 5: I know you don't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot to This is to sou
Speaker 1: and you know what western Pa, Dave Man what I
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I didn't want to be a heavy heart.
Speaker 5: Almost I'm hearing you.
Speaker 1: Bittersweet because you know why it is like, yeah, my
Speaker 1: big brothers in a lot of ways. That was on
Speaker 1: Timmy boy. Before me I came out, I felt like
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, I followed your footsteps. When
Speaker 1: I'm following your footsteps, following your footsteps, and I can
Speaker 1: remember when I found out that you guys was fighting
Speaker 1: for your rights. I remember that moment. I remember me
Speaker 1: sitting back and saying, their story is more important than minds.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is I knew y'all
Speaker 1: getting y'all rights back first was more important and it's
Speaker 1: still it still was to me because y'all, my ogs, y'all,
Speaker 1: people who I salute, y'all, people who I take my
Speaker 1: hat off to. So y'all getting y'all, yeah, I'll getting there.
Speaker 1: So y'all getting y'all flowers meant more to me. And
Speaker 1: that's when I knew I was a good person. It's
Speaker 1: about them. It's about not me. I get it afterwards,
Speaker 1: but they get their rights back, take it and hip
Speaker 1: hop stood with y'all, And I'm telling you that's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. I really really respect y'all. I really honor y'all,
Speaker 1: and I'm thankful. I'm thankful that y'all out here man real.
Speaker 2: Y'all him, Yeah, that's real man, and just a testament
Speaker 2: to like. People laugh sometimes when I bring artifacts. But
Speaker 2: I bought this as a kid. It was a single,
Speaker 2: and because I wanted to preserve the singles, I will
Speaker 2: cut cut the joint out and put it in a
Speaker 2: heart plastic joint.
Speaker 1: So it was good.
Speaker 2: And think about it a kid. Bind this and the
Speaker 2: legacy that's still today. What you guys are Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. To be able to bring this
Speaker 2: now to this show today, it is incredible, man. And
Speaker 2: the legacy you guys have impacted all of us, the
Speaker 2: entire culture, every single person here.
Speaker 4: It goes without words.
Speaker 1: Man, DJing got a tennis ball from nineteen ninety four exactually.
Speaker 4: Before that for carrots he got a vote.
Speaker 1: Go man, Wow, I'm gonna be honest. That shit is
Speaker 1: so dope, bron you don't get.
Speaker 4: Them sign question.
Speaker 1: I'm about to say, I'm taking the shot of that too.
Speaker 1: Don't know, worry no more, don't Yeah, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: this is it for the god you're lying now, let
Speaker 1: me ask you what the hell is potholes in my lawn?
Speaker 5: Biting my rhyme? That's it?
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what holes in my lawn? By the way,
Speaker 1: I was poor you. So I didn't have a lawn,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know what the lawn was like somebody's lawn.
Speaker 1: So I always wanted to ask you that MC.
Speaker 5: Bite my Ron.
Speaker 3: Ye, as long as our rhymes and the poddles or
Speaker 3: the chunks that I sucker, MC would have been off
Speaker 3: of the tape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in deep.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm like in the studio room when
Speaker 5: I hear the rhymes, but the beauty was I got it.
Speaker 5: That was like my main connection sucking with them. When
Speaker 5: I'm hearing the rhymes, I'm like, oh, should I know
Speaker 5: what the you means?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you want to say something else, so, you know,
Speaker 1: speaking about you know, rest in peace to Dave. I
Speaker 1: remember me being with Pun, right. I remember me going
Speaker 1: to actual puns fore the room and I stood on
Speaker 1: the side of his casket, well in front of his casket,
Speaker 1: and everybody kind of you know, grabbed me and said,
Speaker 1: he's not suffering no more. And I couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: grasp it because I've never seen Pun suffer. But then
Speaker 1: I started to think about it. I used to remember
Speaker 1: at times when Pun be fall to sleep sleep apnea.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was too young at the time,
Speaker 1: I would look at pun and I would step my
Speaker 1: story up. I thought I was being boring, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I thought I was being boring. So
Speaker 1: is that something that you guys knew about Dave or no,
Speaker 1: we he knew.
Speaker 4: I mean, and Dave had congested congested heart kailure.
Speaker 5: We've been knowing about it since Grind.
Speaker 4: Grind date, the grind Ate album.
Speaker 3: There were certain things he could have done or was
Speaker 3: told to do, and at one point he could be
Speaker 3: doing it, you know, and you just get comfortable, yeah,
Speaker 3: and Okay, I'm doing what the doc told me to do.
Speaker 3: I'm on pointing, and sometimes you just want to fall
Speaker 3: off your regiment of health, your healthy regiment.
Speaker 4: And that was about battle that he had. Mace can.
Speaker 3: Confirm what I'm saying as far as like I said
Speaker 3: to Mace, like me and Dave was together on the
Speaker 3: Guerrillas tour last year, and I was just saying, like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: Dave is having a problem with just this one song,
Speaker 3: like you know, like we get through it, we rocket,
Speaker 3: but when he gets off stage, it was just like
Speaker 3: a lot as if we had performed for almost an hour.
Speaker 3: So I was like, yo, man't I don't think we're
Speaker 3: gonna tour no more. I just really don't think that's
Speaker 3: gonna be possible. But I'm being honest death Nah, I
Speaker 3: just thought like it would be like, Yo, Day would
Speaker 3: show up on the TV.
Speaker 4: Shit, you know what I'm saying. He could sit here
Speaker 4: and do this.
Speaker 5: Maybe we'd narrow down to like doing three or four songs.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: We were just thinking that early about you know, adjusting things,
Speaker 3: you know, like when the Grammy thing came up, all right,
Speaker 3: this is a good opportunity, let's do this.
Speaker 4: Day was all in. But then he just I guess
Speaker 4: he just felt like, well, no, I really can't fly.
Speaker 4: And then this didn't happen.
Speaker 3: So we was all on the phone after that Grammy
Speaker 3: joint and we were just all really talking and Yo,
Speaker 3: we was like yo, man, it was a bittersweet. I
Speaker 3: was like, Yo, thank y'all for like giving me the
Speaker 3: props to what I did. But I just miss my
Speaker 3: niggas being there with me. And I was just like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: and we just all started laughing because I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this nigga, Melly Mel still got.
Speaker 1: Like seven hundred muscles, you know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: looks amazing. He wanted to fight somebody, yo, And I
Speaker 1: was just like in the day, it was like we
Speaker 1: was all laughing together. We just all laughing. Was like yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta get a health right man, like you know.
Speaker 1: So it was it was something man. It was like
Speaker 1: we all talked three days before we lost this brother, like, yo,
Speaker 1: we got to get this right. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I didn't see this ship coming. I'm being honest,
Speaker 4: I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, let's take let's take a moment of silence.
Speaker 1: Can you everybody back there take a moment of silence, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: and really apologize fellas.
Speaker 3: No, man, you know, I mean we all lost. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just all lost. Yeah, tears are warranted, you know,
Speaker 3: Like he was a good man.
Speaker 1: Did he get to know that you got the rights back? No,
Speaker 1: he knew all that, Okay.
Speaker 5: It was just that we were all in the ship
Speaker 5: we was talking about forty eight hours before even yeah wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah we was ready, no, because we already knew,
Speaker 4: like and we was ready.
Speaker 3: I know for him, he was ready to go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know for him though. It was about it was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I said, all the ship was set up that
Speaker 3: Webster Hall.
Speaker 4: Ship was set up. We had to spotify shipsut.
Speaker 5: We was Yo. We was on it.
Speaker 1: We was on it.
Speaker 3: But I think Dave knew his limitations and he was
Speaker 3: just trying to be there for us, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And he didn't want to let us down,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to talk about her going to the
Speaker 5: grand because he was still trying to go. Me and
Speaker 5: have both been struggling with some health issues, you know,
Speaker 5: but this was way more severe than me. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: Smiles would call me up. A tour manager. He called
Speaker 5: me up and we're like, yo, man, I don't think
Speaker 5: this dude should do this. Man, you know, figure out
Speaker 5: how to let Merce just do this by himself. So
Speaker 5: we call on the phone with a call and I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 5: this is how I feel. I'm thankful for the opportunity,
Speaker 5: but maybe it is just like Merce rock And he
Speaker 5: was still adamant about trying to go, and then even
Speaker 5: down to trying to make it to the Grammys. He
Speaker 5: couldn't make it. The day of his flight, he couldn't
Speaker 5: make it. Yeah, But after the Grammars, we were on
Speaker 5: the phone, you know, proud of him for holding it
Speaker 5: down like he wrapped and killed it, held it down.
Speaker 5: You know, we on the phone like just ready like
Speaker 5: talking that good shit. But how and even business things,
Speaker 5: structured things that we knew we still needed to complete,
Speaker 5: that we completed like it was gold time, nor it
Speaker 5: was go time. Ma fucked up with it.
Speaker 1: It was a loss to all the hip hop you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I imagine this is me,
Speaker 1: just me just seeing you brothers talk about it. And
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you, thank y'all for being you know,
Speaker 1: open open, because like I said, with Pun, I felt
Speaker 1: like Pun was my best friend, right, but I felt
Speaker 1: like I was naive.
Speaker 5: Of Pun's funeral his son was born. What we had
Speaker 5: a show at the Roxy, the Roxy in l a
Speaker 5: And and the night of his funeral his son was
Speaker 5: being born, everybody who was pretty much at the funeral
Speaker 5: came to the Rocky held us down till he got
Speaker 5: to the show. Wow, like everybody.
Speaker 4: Like, yo, it's crazy because.
Speaker 1: Look a little crazy. You look a little crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look like that. Okay, I don't know what that it was,
Speaker 1: but that's drift, yo, yo. So what's your favorite place
Speaker 1: to perform? Don't tell me? Dudel dof Germany. That's your
Speaker 1: favorite place in the world. It's my favorite place. It
Speaker 1: always brings up. Oh they own money.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say, man, it's a lot because we
Speaker 3: from the jump, we was always out there. We love
Speaker 3: the tour like us and try would be together and
Speaker 3: tipping them and be like, you know, two weeks and
Speaker 3: they be yo, we want to go home. We always
Speaker 3: just wanted to just keep going. So it's a bunch man.
Speaker 3: It's UK like the UK is like home. London is home.
Speaker 3: I can't but London it's home.
Speaker 5: Question.
Speaker 3: But uh, you know Japan is dope hour okay hours banging.
Speaker 3: That's not mainland Japan. But but yeah, ok, and I
Speaker 3: was dope.
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? But for me it became more who we touring with,
Speaker 5: you know, because there have been so many great places,
Speaker 5: but to repeat them with different programs, you know, rocking
Speaker 5: with you know, especially with people you love and respect,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I'll never forget rocking with
Speaker 5: now Rogers and Sister Sledge one time, No, not Sister
Speaker 5: Sledge point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Dog got music as a allowed us to rock, as
Speaker 3: you said, all rap program it could be us and
Speaker 3: any Kravitz. It could be us and Tito point we
Speaker 3: did to show us, Tito Pinte and Regina Bell like
Speaker 3: we've done it.
Speaker 4: Like our music just has just allowed us to go
Speaker 4: any and everywhere. You know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's just like whether it's like he just said,
Speaker 3: like we could be over here doing something with someone
Speaker 3: over here. We can come back on this side and
Speaker 3: we we we were bad bunny. We like we were
Speaker 3: able to run any which way you point, We can
Speaker 3: do it, you know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he brung out I forgot who he brung out. He second,
Speaker 3: but on a second weekend, I know he brought uh
Speaker 3: come on, Luis Feliciano.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you knowing your ship.
Speaker 5: We used to playing on stage for two hours us.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know yeah, actually used to that said I said, no,
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went to Europe, I
Speaker 1: did forty five minutes. They was like, that's okay. All
Speaker 1: the niggas w course and you better not do it
Speaker 1: on the track no backtrack vocal.
Speaker 9: I'm friends with DJ f N he won't even Yeah, DJ,
Speaker 9: so to the Canadians that we did, I'm not sure
Speaker 9: about that, DJ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the native instruments joints I took.
Speaker 3: Okay, my back, my man, I apologize with us traveling
Speaker 3: around the world, that really helped us because.
Speaker 4: The states Man, this hip hop thing was ours. So
Speaker 4: like you could do a show in l A.
Speaker 3: People show up at the House of Blues, but it
Speaker 3: was just kind of normal, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like you could be rocking. You see a bunch of
Speaker 3: niggas talking and if you could turn me like, yo,
Speaker 3: stop talking, nigga, I'm rocking. Where you going overseas? It
Speaker 3: was like, yo, you don't live here. This is special
Speaker 3: to us. So like they wanted you to give them everything.
Speaker 3: You couldn't short change them, you know. So that's that
Speaker 3: was being honest. That was our school. Like so when
Speaker 3: we came back to the States, we provided that where
Speaker 3: we made sure like yo, like we do that to
Speaker 3: this day.
Speaker 4: I did at Coachella.
Speaker 3: Some some girl didn't put her hand up or she
Speaker 3: wasn't like doing the pledge I told her to do,
Speaker 3: Like I made every one point in her ass like yo,
Speaker 3: like a partaking this we want to make this an
Speaker 3: experience so that those are different. Definitely lessons we've learned,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I remember I was in Warsaw, Poland one night and
Speaker 1: I care up there and they're saying c.
Speaker 10: NN.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying to the promoter, I said, how long
Speaker 1: have they been saying this? They said since seven o'clock?
Speaker 1: So I was like, they think they think I'm late.
Speaker 1: They're like no, but then I look and then they're like,
Speaker 1: everyone shaved their head to look like you, Nori, and
Speaker 1: I was like, that wasn't a good idea. Look like
Speaker 1: skins scared them? You're talking about? Can you tell them
Speaker 1: to put their hair back on? I'm sorry I lost
Speaker 1: the focus because you it's crazy. We're a bunch of
Speaker 1: kids from Queen's Raised, Long Island, Bronx, Brooklyn, and we
Speaker 1: actually got to perform all over the world. Like that
Speaker 1: ship is crazy, like you think about it, like the
Speaker 1: countries that you guys been Like. I was sitting here
Speaker 1: with Chuck D and Chuck D said he's been to
Speaker 1: a hundred comes. Man, I didn't even know one hundred
Speaker 1: countries existed. I was like, really, he said, more than
Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred and thirty four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta say we've done probably the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I bringing it up, because.
Speaker 5: We we've pretty much been where everywhere probably.
Speaker 1: Gonna been to casts down, We've been.
Speaker 5: We've been where uh Cypercell has been, Nice Tea has been,
Speaker 5: We've been repeated offenders, had a whole bunch of places.
Speaker 1: How is that like rocking the world, because that's probably
Speaker 1: the only thing I missed about hip hop is rocking
Speaker 1: the world. Like when I'm more of that world, it's
Speaker 1: a blessing man like, like that's the only thing I missed.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I love my space. But how
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 13: Come on, you got the right colors on that colors? No, dog,
Speaker 13: you might be starting some trouble County. Huh oh, you're listen.
Speaker 1: That's that's the best rivalry Miami heat against the Knicks.
Speaker 1: But Regie Miller I hated him. I can't and Jordan
Speaker 1: Jordan crushed every year we would going, we get right
Speaker 1: next to it in Jordan.
Speaker 4: Junk on us.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I never got over it to
Speaker 1: be a Knicks fan. You know how hard it is
Speaker 1: to be a Jets fan.
Speaker 4: I'm a Knicks whoa.
Speaker 5: I'm a bad at wife. When it comes to the next.
Speaker 1: I'm a bad.
Speaker 5: My card.
Speaker 1: Oh being a Knicks fan is horrible. I just got
Speaker 1: to act like I ain't see the game, Like did
Speaker 1: you see the game? Like, no, I ain't see that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. But are you a Knicks fan?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really watch that.
Speaker 1: You don't funk with sports like that? I can tell
Speaker 1: you was fun with sports basket boxing and boxing. You've
Speaker 1: seen the tank fight. No, I missed missed the tank fighting.
Speaker 5: Oh my bad?
Speaker 1: Come on, that was the That was the greatest floss ever.
Speaker 1: We missed the fighting thousand thousand people. Yo, what is
Speaker 1: that we keep rolling up? Motherfucker? So for people that
Speaker 1: don't know, you guys have pluck one, pluck two, pluck three.
Speaker 1: For people that don't know, describe what that what that
Speaker 1: means for it.
Speaker 4: Was just a chance.
Speaker 3: It was just it was almost like a count like
Speaker 3: you know when people about the rhyme be like yo
Speaker 3: yo yo and about to say that the same ship.
Speaker 3: It was like plugged the count is plugged two. That
Speaker 3: That's all it was.
Speaker 5: And it was just for that.
Speaker 3: Plug tuning was just uh a routine. It wasn't really
Speaker 3: about it being a song. It was a routine. He
Speaker 3: would cut and peach the president and we will do that.
Speaker 3: We will do plug tuning.
Speaker 1: Did you do you? Guys?
Speaker 5: Ever?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna talk to you because you're here as
Speaker 2: an MC. Do you ever put yourself in that top
Speaker 2: tier category of lyricists that a lot of people put
Speaker 2: you in, including myself?
Speaker 1: I'm the only thing that my redding bands. Come on, bro,
Speaker 1: how you changing something like that? My wife might be
Speaker 1: mad at me. I'm sorry, he's the word sorry.
Speaker 2: You yourself a top tier lyricist, and that like a
Speaker 2: like up there with the greats.
Speaker 3: I mean me personally, I've never I've never done that.
Speaker 3: I just always said to myself, I am nowhere near
Speaker 3: galaxies away from the wackest nigga. Absolutely, but I've never
Speaker 3: But you are at the top tier. I mean, I
Speaker 3: appreciate when we can say that. I've just always been
Speaker 3: the person where I allow myself to get scared, Like
Speaker 3: when I gotta be on the record with Black Thought.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh no, this nigga's not gonna dust me.
Speaker 1: Like that's how I look at and that's how you maintained,
Speaker 1: that's how you're shutting. You know.
Speaker 3: If I gotta be on somewhere most shit, I gotta
Speaker 3: I start and my own nigga. Dave, he was like that,
Speaker 3: he Ya, I'm the person where if we had a
Speaker 3: studio session, so I know if we're going to go
Speaker 3: in the studio Wednesday and do something, so Sunday, I'm
Speaker 3: already righting Wednesday.
Speaker 4: I come with it.
Speaker 3: Dave would just be sitting there, listen to what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: He pulls out a path, he ships his ship out
Speaker 3: right there. That's how they That's how ill he was.
Speaker 3: So whatever I was trying to be or I have became,
Speaker 3: it's because of I was not trying to be left
Speaker 3: in the dust behind him, you know.
Speaker 4: So Nah, I don't. I don't think of myself like
Speaker 4: that at all.
Speaker 3: I just I really respect, you know, and I'm humble
Speaker 3: by whatever anyone feel how my skills are.
Speaker 4: But I'm always up for improvement. I listened to the
Speaker 4: young dudes.
Speaker 3: I hear ship and I'll be like, Yo, that's dope,
Speaker 3: and it just inspires me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was in La not too long ago, status selected
Speaker 3: was doing like a release party for a Kodu and
Speaker 3: I was listening to his ship.
Speaker 4: It's dope, and I was like, yo, man, this is dope.
Speaker 1: Like it is. I'm just always a student of shit,
Speaker 1: you know, always Well, well, we know you humble, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna brag for you. Yeah, y'all one
Speaker 1: of the best groups of all motherfucking time. With no equivocations.
Speaker 1: I don't even use big words. With no equivocations, y'all
Speaker 1: are one of the best groups of all time. Things
Speaker 1: y'all make global music. You have sustained you guys, the fans,
Speaker 1: the people. You guys are the people's champions. And just
Speaker 1: in case you want to be humble, and we're going
Speaker 1: to tell you that to your goddamn yo, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie down. D came in here. I'm tiring, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm so listen. I'm run to go to the store.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put them with holy ship. You want
Speaker 1: to bring Damond in?
Speaker 2: Yes, I told them to get a chair, let's get
Speaker 2: Let's get dam and let's bring him in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hell ya.
Speaker 5: I need the water, all.
Speaker 1: Right, let's make some I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I looked at you to the right, and I've seen
Speaker 1: it and I said, that's exactly how I feel like
Speaker 1: because because because New York man, we're in Miami. Was
Speaker 1: gonna show you in Day County in Miami Day County when, yes,
Speaker 1: when would be exactly you used to be little perto Rico. Yep.
Speaker 1: Did you see the take my yeah, no question, he
Speaker 1: put it on him. Yeah, yeah, definitely knocked him out
Speaker 1: with a with a jab to the to the ridge.
Speaker 1: I know, I looktend God bless me. Ryan Gotcia. I
Speaker 1: did like you, but I just didn't know. I know
Speaker 1: he wasn't Tankers a dog. That's too much. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So Diamond detos, what's going on? Yo? You
Speaker 1: know the albums out the rearview, the review, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I'm here today to shoot one
Speaker 1: of the videos with the album I got with my
Speaker 1: man pause right here High that's right, and just here
Speaker 1: social port the family, that's right. I'm a huge daylight
Speaker 1: fl too. God damn it all we are. So you
Speaker 1: said you're filming the video today, christ is yours, right,
Speaker 1: So tell us, tell us, tell us what this record
Speaker 1: is about. The song Flying High. It's basically about you know,
Speaker 1: just just just moving forward and just staying above the bullshit.
Speaker 1: That's how I would call it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: not for real, you know what I mean. And you
Speaker 1: know your man right here, Pa, he don't do too
Speaker 1: many features. So when he blessed me with the verse,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I really appreciated that. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, dude, don't do too many you know, appearances.
Speaker 1: So so earlier today you said that I see the
Speaker 1: picture with fat Joe right what, he's thirteen years old
Speaker 1: with the k next jersey.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, remember the start of jacket is in eighty four.
Speaker 1: You said you took that picture. Yeah, my man, Troy
Speaker 1: took it. We were together. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And you see you see Joe. You see Joe playing basket.
Speaker 1: I don't did joke to play basketball. I'm just be honest.
Speaker 1: That's my friend. He had a little game. He had
Speaker 1: my friend, but Joe, and it's not something I think of.
Speaker 1: Don't take a basketball.
Speaker 5: You don't think of.
Speaker 1: Joe pop lock. And I've seen him that. I've seen
Speaker 1: him with the white gloves and everything. White gloves, white gloves,
Speaker 1: that's hip. So Diamond. Let me ask you because their
Speaker 1: story is so famous, This story is so famous, you
Speaker 1: know them them not you know, having the rights to
Speaker 1: they music and then they finally got the rights to
Speaker 1: their music. Where was you at when you when you
Speaker 1: found out that they got there, they got their ship back?
Speaker 1: Oh Daylight? Yeah, well I know they was, you know,
Speaker 1: they was going through it with Tommy Boy, you know
Speaker 1: for a while, you know what I mean. So you
Speaker 1: know it's artists from that era, you know, they they
Speaker 1: know that, yo, you know it's you know, I think
Speaker 1: after thirty five years, the rising first back to you.
Speaker 1: I think it's thirty but he's But I mean, only
Speaker 1: your masters is everything, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: that's your blood, sweat and tears. So you know you
Speaker 1: should control that, right you know. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: stunts blusting hip hop back as we speak, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's been thirty years Bigger
Speaker 1: Picture's ownership. Yeah, it hasn't been thirty years. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: has been thirty years. They have to give it back
Speaker 1: to you, right, yeah, yep. Ninety two Best Kept Secrets
Speaker 1: sadly got a one track mind. What a crazy trying
Speaker 1: to get my masters back as well. God damn it, man, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I would never think that we would have to have
Speaker 1: this conversation like that, right, because I believe that hip
Speaker 1: hop is one of the worst loans you could ever have.
Speaker 1: Like they give you this money, yeah, which is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a bank loan. It's a bank loan, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's my interest bank loan. It's the worst bank loan.
Speaker 1: So have you guys had a chance to speak to
Speaker 1: Tom Silverman direct or. No, this had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with him once you sold it.
Speaker 5: I spoke to him the actual day we started the boycott,
Speaker 5: That's when I spoke to him. It was that morning
Speaker 5: before we went up to sway M That's what I
Speaker 5: spoke to him. And what was this conversation Like, I
Speaker 5: really don't want to talk about it for me? Yeah,
Speaker 5: I really don't, you know what I mean. I'd rather
Speaker 5: talk to you about it off camp.
Speaker 1: I mean for me, I forgive him now moving forward,
Speaker 1: because forgiveness is about forgiving yourself, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But he has he didn't. He didn't want to negotiate
Speaker 1: with me when I was like, you know, he we
Speaker 1: had reached out to each other. I don't remember if
Speaker 1: it's him or as me or whatever. But we spoke
Speaker 1: and I was trying to buy the rights back from
Speaker 1: him direct and it wasn't amicable. It wasn't it wasn't nothing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this wasn't either if they had to fall in
Speaker 5: the hands of someone else for it to be right, right,
Speaker 5: you know. So that's why I picked him up then
Speaker 5: having to really talk about him, you know, because you're right,
Speaker 5: he's not really a good person. But I always knew that,
Speaker 5: you know what, you know, I knew that from the
Speaker 5: type of business he does, you know, I mean, here's
Speaker 5: who he is. Once I understood that many many years ago,
Speaker 5: all I did was do what he did, what he
Speaker 5: been doing to him. Yeah, that's all I did. And
Speaker 5: all I did was say what he said. I never
Speaker 5: said anything bad about him, just said what he said
Speaker 5: and let everybody else decide if it was right or wrong,
Speaker 5: because I already know what's wrong as shit, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, right, And at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: like he always presented it, it's business right, right, yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all We wanted to take care of his
Speaker 3: business man. It don't really even get personalized. We don't
Speaker 3: even got to really talk on him. You know, we're
Speaker 3: just blessed to be here doing what we're doing with
Speaker 3: people who want to do business. And I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 3: let's be honest. Business don't necessarily always got to be fair.
Speaker 4: Business.
Speaker 3: You just gotta Once you show you no knowledge of something,
Speaker 3: maybe people will deal with you a certain way.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Hold on what you just said.
Speaker 1: You said business don't always have to.
Speaker 4: Business don't have to be fair.
Speaker 1: I have to be business.
Speaker 5: Don't try to be my friend, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 1: You know, that was That was the thing that with
Speaker 1: me and you. We went to CBS, and we went
Speaker 1: to CBS. I'm just leaving, timmy boy. I'm just leaving
Speaker 1: all this shit. I didn't want to be friends with
Speaker 1: nobody else. Not because I didn't want to be friends
Speaker 1: with them, but because this is a lot of investment.
Speaker 1: When you when you when you signed to a label,
Speaker 1: you start doing business with people, you start to like them,
Speaker 1: and then you don't know that they will be traded
Speaker 1: the next day, They'll be in Nebraska the next day,
Speaker 1: and then I have to sit there. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be friends anymore, So I don't want to be
Speaker 1: friends in build them no more like so like it's
Speaker 1: like because I started to understand business. When I was young,
Speaker 1: I understood friendship. I didn't understand business. I wanted to
Speaker 1: be friends with everybody. But when I got older, I
Speaker 1: was like, fuck being friends. Let me get my check.
Speaker 1: And that's it. It doesn't mean that I'm not friendly,
Speaker 1: doesn't mean but what it is is I'm more of
Speaker 1: a business man.
Speaker 5: No, I could still be your friend. I'm gonna find
Speaker 5: out if you're going to be my friend. That's where
Speaker 5: it's at because now it's just for me to own
Speaker 5: up to let me stop harboring these feelings that might
Speaker 5: I think it's going to affect the friendship that I
Speaker 5: think I shouldn't say that I feel is right for
Speaker 5: me and man, and I feel like I say what's
Speaker 5: right for me. The person who feel like I'm saying
Speaker 5: some foul shit, it's not my friend.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And we got to remember the history of this industry,
Speaker 2: the music industry, it's always been a racket. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: racket at the club, not like the club, but like
Speaker 2: the club, actually like the club.
Speaker 4: That's the foundation of the music industry.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell people to go do your history and
Speaker 2: understand it and when you understand where it comes from,
Speaker 2: the evils that come from that.
Speaker 4: You know, we understand.
Speaker 3: I mean me and Dress we've talked on this and
Speaker 3: we actually yeah, and we've said, like, yo, man, if.
Speaker 4: A if a label was just fair, fair far.
Speaker 3: Cats would be millionaires if they were just fair right,
Speaker 3: throwing out the overks thin yourself, just fair right. But
Speaker 3: business is not about being fair. Business is about being business.
Speaker 3: It's like a chess game almost what you negotiated with, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what you get?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So this chess and it's Othello, you know how we
Speaker 5: got to move amongst the game of deception.
Speaker 4: Yeah? So like you said, like we could be young, Yo,
Speaker 4: I know this dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna come in here, he's gonna want the girls,
Speaker 3: he's gonna want the tims and all that bullshit. And
Speaker 3: it just taken everything from you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because they see that you want the glory of it all.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You want the bitches, you want the call, you want
Speaker 4: to and you get nothing. You want analytics. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: you won't read the fine print.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and a lot of times even where
Speaker 3: even with us when you were look, let's.
Speaker 4: Make sure we have a lawyer. Yo, they had that covered.
Speaker 4: The lawyer was down with them.
Speaker 1: Niggay man, that's what's fucked up.
Speaker 11: You know what I'm saying, Cohoo's with each other that
Speaker 11: one more time the lawyer was in co who's with
Speaker 11: the fucking labels?
Speaker 5: Everybody is in the close of the deal. If you're
Speaker 5: not paying your lawyer straight out your pocket, win or lose,
Speaker 5: he's trying to get his bread off the clothes of
Speaker 5: the deal. And if everybody's moving on a percentage base,
Speaker 5: you have the more money that's on the table. So
Speaker 5: if I could convince you to give up your publishing
Speaker 5: for your for more cash, it's more money on top
Speaker 5: of my percentage as opposed to what can protect.
Speaker 1: If you understand, you know what I'm saying, Holy.
Speaker 5: Supposed to what can really protect my client? So my
Speaker 5: client can have a longevity and I can have as
Speaker 5: a lawyer longevity with my damn client. But nobody ever
Speaker 5: really saw it like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: First of all, when we came in, an't respect the
Speaker 5: ship to even make it around the block, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So you know, we was projected sales
Speaker 5: at somewhere like what fifty thousand units three ft behind rising.
Speaker 5: That's so, you know, but what the beauty I could say,
Speaker 5: in the entire relationship, we had no creative hole.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: You know most artists got the label gotten away of
Speaker 5: the records they made. You know, Tommy Boy didn't getting
Speaker 5: away of that. How they did get in the way
Speaker 5: if they wasn't feeling something like naming your album day
Speaker 5: Los Soul is dead, they'll pull back on the budget
Speaker 5: they're promoting. You know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 5: we do what we did to supersede to be us, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like I said, man, and I'm sorry to cut you,
Speaker 3: but ain't about harder that dude. I mean, like it's
Speaker 3: not oh ship, but it's it's really not, man. It's
Speaker 3: just about we are where.
Speaker 5: We are, not even just him though it's not a systematic.
Speaker 4: You know, it is systema not the same thing.
Speaker 5: We are another tired with a different rim.
Speaker 2: And even some of these label exits, they not they
Speaker 2: don't even know what it is is because it's something
Speaker 2: that was just following.
Speaker 1: It's been ongoing forever. It seems like this is business as.
Speaker 5: Usual, standard practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was following what you did.
Speaker 2: A lawyer might even tell his client, Hey, this is
Speaker 2: what it is. But you're dealing with oftentimes young artists
Speaker 2: like I just want to get the deal. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: but but if you look back, if you really look
Speaker 2: at it, you're you're still exploiting a young mind. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: It's all circumstantial. It's where you we are in your life,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. If you just working McDonald's,
Speaker 5: were hustling on the block, that deal, that's.
Speaker 1: It's a life change.
Speaker 5: You just if you just expect to grow.
Speaker 1: All of us is dumb because we all kind of
Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't the right thing to do. But
Speaker 1: we're like, yo, we're going to fix it the next album.
Speaker 4: Right right.
Speaker 1: Yes, you always do feeling that you could renegotiate it
Speaker 1: in a sense, and which is in my case. We
Speaker 1: had component Noriega, then Copone went to jail. I was
Speaker 1: forced to do a solo album. I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be a solo you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: was forced to do it, and it worked out for
Speaker 1: me in the long run. But if I had that
Speaker 1: that not happened, I would have been signing this Coon
Speaker 1: nor Jega for life. Yeah all right, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: did not read that ship at all. You want penalty penalty? Yes,
Speaker 1: like over there with Ian Well, I was with Neil Levin.
Speaker 1: Oh Neil.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually I love Neil to me, and Neil always still cool.
Speaker 1: It's still cool to this day. He's he's probably cheapest
Speaker 1: person I ever met. But he's also fought for me
Speaker 1: because when I it was it was a time where
Speaker 1: you had to have a Hype Williams video or you're
Speaker 1: not going platinum. And I needed a hype Williams video.
Speaker 4: And I remember Tom would never do a Hype Williams.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, I got I got it. I got
Speaker 1: that budget of the crack. I got so and I
Speaker 1: remember this. I remember this like it was yesterday. Hay
Speaker 1: Williams caused me and goes, uh, book a room at
Speaker 1: the Trump So I go, all right, this is the
Speaker 1: time where Trump was not racist. Man, that wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: So he wanted the politicians. He want a politicians. So
Speaker 1: Ike Williams just like the rich guy he was at
Speaker 1: the time and he is still probably. He said, book
Speaker 1: a room of the Trump. So I didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I just booked the room at the Trumps.
Speaker 1: He said, he comes, shows up. He says, yo, let's
Speaker 1: call Roy Jones and I said, it's called Roy Jones.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I think Roy Jones needs to be
Speaker 1: in your video and he needs to be boxing in
Speaker 1: your video. So I was like, all right, cool, I've
Speaker 1: never called Rode James before in my life. So calling
Speaker 1: Roy Jones is at the Trump Hotel. So Roy Jones goes, what,
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta fake my fight because he's like, yo, fight.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I want to fake a fight, like
Speaker 1: you know what. He's like this, how this how, this
Speaker 1: is how hot Rory was at the time. Boy was like,
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta fake a fight. I gotta fight in
Speaker 1: two weeks. Y'all gonna come and film it. He was like,
Speaker 1: but in my mind, I'm like, what if he lose,
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to footage him lose it. Like
Speaker 1: I didn't know what And Rory was that confident, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and he said no man, we were doing and he
Speaker 1: was we went and oh man, he showed out that
Speaker 1: night this first time HBO cameras in that wasn't HBO cameras,
Speaker 1: and Rory fought for me. So Roy Jones revery, I
Speaker 1: owe you, brother.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: I told Indyo Champ, you gotta relax. I told him
Speaker 1: he gotta relax. That's my friend in Dyo Champ. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax. You cannot hurt Roy Jones. Better not better
Speaker 1: not Indio. You better not big up a Roy Jones. Man,
Speaker 1: I love it, Bob Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, hip hop. Hip hop has been good to us.
Speaker 3: We've obviously great to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, Like even in talking QUI since we talking about it,
Speaker 3: even with Tommy Boy man, Yo, Monica lynch Man, she
Speaker 3: held us down over there. Yeah, she was a shining
Speaker 3: light over there. And there's a lot of other great
Speaker 3: people over there that did right by it, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So like honestly, like even tom was once the business
Speaker 5: was done, he had some dope ideas, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. You know now then yeah, you know, like
Speaker 5: there was a lot of great times.
Speaker 4: You know, we just grew up, man, and we just
Speaker 4: grew up and was like, yo, man, this is what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: This is unfair. Mind you, we had already been fighting
Speaker 3: to get what we need to get. He got hold
Speaker 3: of it, he got everything back. We obviously all know
Speaker 3: that it can be said that Tom got everything back
Speaker 3: to this flip it right, got he sold it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, he lost it.
Speaker 1: Tell us.
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to say, like, yes, I lost I
Speaker 4: was going to hold that.
Speaker 1: So please let me.
Speaker 4: Completely understand everything Tom had lost.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about I.
Speaker 4: Don't know about no bangship.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to say that he lost the catalog,
Speaker 3: lost the catalog to because he had owed money to
Speaker 3: them and he had to pay it back a certain
Speaker 3: amount of time. It came out that he didn't pay
Speaker 3: it back in a certain amount of times. So Warner
Speaker 3: Brothers took the label. So that's why we had the.
Speaker 5: Middle of us having bionics around the time and all
Speaker 5: of that. You know, my man, My only gright with him, man,
Speaker 5: is that he wasn't the one to come sit us
Speaker 5: down to tell us this transition that was happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well before it was about to go, I mean, wait,
Speaker 3: we sent it against I'm sorry, before whatever went down.
Speaker 3: We actually re signed once we was doing these triple
Speaker 3: albums we were finished. We actually was re signing with him,
Speaker 3: but unfortunately finding out that when he lost the label.
Speaker 3: When we found out that, okay, so the label's going
Speaker 3: to go to Warner, We're not going to be in
Speaker 3: a WEIS system any any label, whether it can grab Daylight,
Speaker 3: grab House of Pain or whatever. And that's what started
Speaker 3: happening is Sylvia or Rone wanted us on Electra. We
Speaker 3: was going to Electra. She wanted Timblin to do the
Speaker 3: whole album. We was like, we don't want that. We
Speaker 3: don't mind a few tracks, we just don't want them
Speaker 3: to do the whole album. And then certain money we wanted.
Speaker 3: We was like, if we sit down, So I knew
Speaker 3: Sylvia do My brother Rene McClean, Corey Smith, who was
Speaker 3: managers knew us.
Speaker 1: She was like, look man Corey Smith who manages Das Belle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we was like yeah.
Speaker 1: We were just like.
Speaker 3: She was just like, look, I just want y'all to
Speaker 3: be happy with whatever, go down, y'all don't got to
Speaker 3: come here.
Speaker 4: So we didn't wind up going there.
Speaker 3: Then it looked like Atlantic wanted us to go over there,
Speaker 3: so we wound up just telling Warner like yo, we
Speaker 3: just want out right, they was cool, they let us go.
Speaker 4: We just want them to be able to go out
Speaker 4: and do our own thing.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, you know, it's just being young and
Speaker 3: even being older, sometimes you just don't know what's going
Speaker 3: on in the business side of things because it's not you.
Speaker 4: You know, even when from their standpoint.
Speaker 5: You know, and once you get hold of learning your
Speaker 5: contracts and you're into having a family and personal life,
Speaker 5: you you still end up making some decisions that you
Speaker 5: feel you need to protect your foundation. You know, it's
Speaker 5: a certain sacrifices you make in because of the other
Speaker 5: two people in the group. You go think, let alone
Speaker 5: the family you know, just built, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And at the time, you know, for me, I felt like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're making certain compromises and sacrifices just to keep this
Speaker 5: thing we built going, you know, and being a part
Speaker 5: of this whole thing and care hip hop that actually
Speaker 5: feeds our families. Man, you know what I mean? You know, So,
Speaker 5: but yeah, times changed, things moved along, he lost the catalog,
Speaker 5: we figured out how to still keep going. Wow. And
Speaker 5: that says still like in learning the business from the
Speaker 5: time where you feel like you stuck up until that moment.
Speaker 4: You learn a lot.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: You know you can't for a person for learning so
Speaker 5: much to know where they can figure out, not how
Speaker 5: to strategize. Where you got where they got their barking
Speaker 5: in power.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, because when he lost the catalog
Speaker 1: and got it back it went to Warner. Did he
Speaker 1: get it back?
Speaker 3: He got it back, He got it back years later,
Speaker 3: years later he paid for I don't know how.
Speaker 1: How he got it.
Speaker 5: It's even when warners, how did we were trying to
Speaker 5: get it. We weren't even trying to get it. We
Speaker 5: were just trying to get them to put it up
Speaker 5: when we were still lacking knowledge in business, just wanting
Speaker 5: the catalog up. And maybe.
Speaker 2: When you say up for sale or up for sure,
Speaker 2: because you remember, like all that was for streamings, for
Speaker 2: saying we missed so you could get the royalties off.
Speaker 3: So even at that point, Rhino Wanna was allowing Rhino
Speaker 3: to work out stuff. We did the live from Tramp's
Speaker 3: album whatever. But then when wait a minute, this infraction,
Speaker 3: as Mace would say.
Speaker 1: Is coming in.
Speaker 4: You know you owe you, you didn't you didn't clear
Speaker 4: potholes in my lawn.
Speaker 3: You didn't clear this sample so that's been want to
Speaker 3: shelf everything, So were trying to work it out with them.
Speaker 4: At one point Leo Cohen was over there.
Speaker 3: Leo was li was our ex manager, you know, well
Speaker 3: manage our rush managements. Simmons and Leo. You try to
Speaker 3: work it out. But then at one point and leaving,
Speaker 3: he went leaving and the new people come in. So
Speaker 3: it was all that type of stuff going on. Man,
Speaker 3: it was just a long period of us trying to
Speaker 3: put it up. We had I don't really say their names,
Speaker 3: but we had like a streaming company. At one point
Speaker 3: was like, yo, we'll pay for everything. We'll fix everything.
Speaker 3: Allow us to fix everything. We'll pay for everything. We
Speaker 3: told warn us like yo, this streaming company will pay
Speaker 3: for everything, fix everything.
Speaker 4: They still wouldn't bite.
Speaker 5: At that point, I felt like somebody was waiting for
Speaker 5: him to get it together, to get it back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for him, he came reached out to us. He
Speaker 4: had got it, He got everything back.
Speaker 3: But what I'm just trying to say, in hindsight, he
Speaker 3: was getting every even thing back just to flip it.
Speaker 1: Just to sell it.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: He didn't care about who.
Speaker 5: Knows, who knows Because I honestly, when he was trying
Speaker 5: to get us to do it. It seemed like he
Speaker 5: was looking to put put it all out he wanted
Speaker 5: when he sent to everybody these generic emails that kind
Speaker 5: of reverted back to contracts that were like eighty eight
Speaker 5: eighty nine that we weren't even doing with him in
Speaker 5: two thousand. You know what I mean? It was Yeah,
Speaker 5: well y'are seeing it all. We posted it all man,
Speaker 5: you know it was interesting, but it was him, Like I.
Speaker 1: Said, Man, honestly, do you guys think it was all
Speaker 1: worth it was?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Was it all worth it?
Speaker 5: It definitely was worth it. He learned so much. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I thank God for real, dog, you know, this is
Speaker 5: an extreme blessing. This is like, don't happen in a
Speaker 5: million years. I know what we went through even with
Speaker 5: each other. Yeah, where we almost caved into that fucking shit,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So you know, it's truly
Speaker 5: a blessing from God, and I'm gonna give it all
Speaker 5: the graces to God. Real straight up, I think.
Speaker 1: We can make his noise of God.
Speaker 5: Nah.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna be honest man, like it's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a beautif and it's not the ending. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say this is the ending, because I feel
Speaker 1: like you guys got a whole other legacy that rehearse.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, it's not like we're
Speaker 1: playing football. It's not like we're playing boxing. We can
Speaker 1: do this ship for the rest of our life.
Speaker 5: You go on.
Speaker 1: So I would love to hear that New Day Live album.
Speaker 5: I really love about being a part of it.
Speaker 1: Come on, send me a joint, Send me a joint,
Speaker 1: because y'all truly deserve it, man, Like I can't see
Speaker 1: you know anybody deserve it more than you guys, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You guys have been lawyer
Speaker 1: to hip hop. You gave us your whole life. Like
Speaker 1: I don't remember not hearing the Day Soul track, Like
Speaker 1: I don't remember not hearing so what y'all did, what
Speaker 1: y'all contributed, it's warranted. I wanted to know this noticed.
Speaker 1: You guys are really one of the greatest, greatest groups
Speaker 1: of all time. The fact that you got your rights
Speaker 1: back really really, it's a beautiful story, man, It really
Speaker 1: truly is because you guys deserve it, and everybody, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys deserve that, appreciate it. I'm happy for y'all. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all happy for your family. I wish you know, God
Speaker 1: bless Dave got to see, you know, more of it,
Speaker 1: and man wanted to show y'all that love. Man, you
Speaker 1: got more. I got a couple more notes. Let's go
Speaker 1: cold on Brett barras.
Speaker 5: Around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much of for a new daylight project,
Speaker 2: how much of Dave's vocals would be involved in it.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a bunch of stuff. I've been trying
Speaker 3: to get everything from his crib, this stuff there, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not pushing anything. If it don't work, it don't work.
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes we got to realize the reason why
Speaker 3: certain things were never put to light because they they
Speaker 3: weren't of the quality of what the person wanted. I
Speaker 3: really do feel that people sometimes need to realize that
Speaker 3: there's a lot of great producers. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: great MC's who we've lost, and a lot of times
Speaker 3: people just start bastardizing their ships, throwing it up, putting
Speaker 3: this out, and sometimes some of that shit wasn't meant
Speaker 3: to come out for a reason. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: the same with Dave's vocals. There's a bunch of stuff
Speaker 3: that I know he would just do when he felt
Speaker 3: the ghosts and wrote and if it works, it works.
Speaker 4: If it don't, it don't.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, We ain't gonna force anything.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I respect that does you don't have to answer if
Speaker 2: you don't want to. But moving on the Daylight as
Speaker 2: a group as a brand, does his family are they
Speaker 2: a part of that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Definitely, definitely for sure.
Speaker 2: Question yeah, because I know that gets complicated with people
Speaker 2: and it kid creates a weird I mean, it's crazy
Speaker 2: because I can say it.
Speaker 3: We literally had put together the contracts to make sure
Speaker 3: that was right four days before this niggas left.
Speaker 1: Wow literally and like like sometimes like I see like
Speaker 1: Havoc right, Havoc will go out and he'll call it
Speaker 1: mob Deep, but he'll be it'll be DJ L l
Speaker 1: E s, It'll be rapp anoid. Do I still say
Speaker 1: day Soul.
Speaker 4: It's daylight man.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, Man, I just know
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of our brothers they miss him.
Speaker 3: So like when when most comes up and like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: I'm down the rock he rocked, you know, thought hit
Speaker 3: me like black thought, Like Yo, man, I'm standing in
Speaker 3: your service, whatever.
Speaker 5: You need say.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Most got an alien brain. He knows everybody's rhynd.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So you know, always came out and represented, you know.
Speaker 4: So that that aspect is there.
Speaker 1: But you know, I call it the.
Speaker 5: Super Friends when we get together because everybody delivered their spirit. Man,
Speaker 5: they make it daylight for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a testament to the legacy.
Speaker 1: Now, domind d when are we getting d I T
Speaker 1: C on drink champs? Come on the whole d I
Speaker 1: T E slim y'all now everybody, Yeah, I went the
Speaker 1: whole stories.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh man, that I saw him sitting at the
Speaker 3: wire house.
Speaker 4: You need to be sitting that this.
Speaker 1: You've seen Kamala looking at him looking look at my boy,
Speaker 1: Mad Joe got the vice president looking at him. I
Speaker 1: like the death ship. I ain't never get invited to
Speaker 1: that White House ever. I don't think I'm never going
Speaker 1: to get invited either. I think my invites were You
Speaker 1: never know, we might have drink camps there right very
Speaker 1: because you know I've been very critical on kamalo uh
Speaker 1: and that Sleepy Joe. Just stay up like Sleepy Jo
Speaker 1: was just keep us on the World War three buddies
Speaker 1: kiss caffe, but kiss cafe and is like, he's a
Speaker 1: sleepy joe against that. I ain't gonna lie. He's leaping.
Speaker 1: You know, you know this is how you know. This
Speaker 1: is how you know when the dude is kind of
Speaker 1: fucked up. When you start, you start, you started appreciating Trump.
Speaker 1: You're like, man, I kind of miss drunk. At least
Speaker 1: he came outside. That's what happened with We all want
Speaker 1: to missing Bush. You're like, damn something to say that
Speaker 1: we can't find no younger people in this that that
Speaker 1: want to be in the politics. Let's check something new
Speaker 1: into the political. He didn't even take a munk shot
Speaker 1: who he got arrested without a month shot. He told them,
Speaker 1: if y'all give me my mug shot, I'm making money
Speaker 1: over it.
Speaker 12: So they wouldn't take his What he said, bro, believe
Speaker 12: that I gotta ship.
Speaker 1: Where's the who hell? I'm gonna make money off this ship?
Speaker 1: Give me money? He said, I want my monk shot,
Speaker 1: and they said, you know what, they did a mockery.
Speaker 4: Where's the monkey shot shot?
Speaker 1: Where's no she said somewhere that they ain't getting fingerprinted nothing.
Speaker 1: He got process. He got process, but he got process.
Speaker 1: He had to get fingerprints, and he had to get
Speaker 1: a mon fingerprinted. I don't think you got together that
Speaker 1: don't exist. That monk shot don't exist, Bro, you would
Speaker 1: see it. Mike Tyson has a muck shot. Everybody has
Speaker 1: a monk shot. Jackie Jackson.
Speaker 2: Together, they might have given him some presidential like we're
Speaker 2: gonna put your ship because he threatened him.
Speaker 1: He said I'm going over this. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: taking and he said he gonna now street, now street
Speaker 1: about three. Yeah, yeah, I gonna lie. He started making
Speaker 1: me like him. You've been liking him, man, did kind of.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the racist ship. I didn't like the
Speaker 1: going at I don't like I don't like anybody reading
Speaker 1: like but but there's certain ship that I do. A
Speaker 1: lot of my friends was rich when Trump was in office.
Speaker 1: I knew no bout niggas with Trump was in office, biting.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of niggas back outside outside. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry looking at me like sleeping Joe alone sleep. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't do politics, but they ain't inviting us to
Speaker 1: the White House. You got invite into the White House.
Speaker 4: We Yeah, we did the Obama leaving party. That was
Speaker 4: that was that was that was hard.
Speaker 1: That was that was hard. You got to meet.
Speaker 4: Michelle, Yeah, both of them, and both of them they
Speaker 4: seemed like they mad, Yeah mad cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he dpted me up everything.
Speaker 1: Wait them.
Speaker 3: Like so like you know, we wound up doing business
Speaker 3: because Michelle Obama want to hear the business you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So we're doing the rhyme Like I
Speaker 3: almost messed up because I'm looking and you know the words.
Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, it's crazy history right there.
Speaker 1: That's dope. That is definitely really dope. Really do we
Speaker 1: never getting invited a way? You never know? You never know,
Speaker 1: you keep shutting them out. He might be like, let's
Speaker 1: do dream chance in the black house. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. Let me stop because you never know.
Speaker 2: MANA hit that hookah?
Speaker 1: What is that marijuana? That's marijuana? Uga, man this whole time?
Speaker 5: What kind of.
Speaker 4: Kia hookah? Some ship should especially.
Speaker 1: Real modern marijuana marijuana. It is marijuana. She got AI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like it's pretty good talking about AI. What
Speaker 1: do y'all think about? I mean the vocal ship I
Speaker 1: have Biggies Verse over mall Deep Joint.
Speaker 2: But no, but now the new business model is licensing
Speaker 2: your voice so that they can use it, because they're
Speaker 2: gonna be using in any ways. Really, yeah, hear that
Speaker 2: people are making deals that every time it gets used,
Speaker 2: they get fifty percent of the record or some royalty
Speaker 2: rate off of their voice.
Speaker 1: Sounds super dangerous, but but what other choice. It's such
Speaker 1: it gets weird now. Yeah, yeah, I heard Biggie rapping
Speaker 1: Prodigies Verse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Biggie doing Easy E Records.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw Michael Jackson doing uh oh yeah, the
Speaker 3: True the Snoop.
Speaker 1: Dogg, the Joint.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, this is what my niggas, Michael.
Speaker 1: It's scary.
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah Jackson murder. I got it's Michael Jackson. It is
Speaker 1: so crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I heard the ship. I heard the whole ship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what does this?
Speaker 5: What is this ship? I don't know? Like literally just
Speaker 5: got me bad side is how my smoke went and thinking.
Speaker 4: They can take confession.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole nother side. That's crazy. They make
Speaker 1: phone calls line right up. They could call your kids
Speaker 1: and be like Daddy opened the door for ready, just
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 3: They just showed how they're doing something where older people
Speaker 3: like their children are calling them like yo, mom blah
Speaker 3: blah blah, got money. But it's like, yeah, I faking ship.
Speaker 3: So it's not being used for like anything of like use.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: By the way, I noticed you ate that whole cake
Speaker 1: yea off of us? Nothing that was That was the
Speaker 1: ultimate fat Boys ship, right, but none of us at
Speaker 1: the table, not even one piece. We like cake too.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was funny as that, man.
Speaker 3: I mean it just even now, I feel like even
Speaker 3: some real hip hop ship, that a ship could be lazy,
Speaker 3: Like you can turn around and be like, damn, I
Speaker 3: got eight records to write to. You can get this
Speaker 3: ship the right man for you, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying That right for you.
Speaker 1: Could write scripts, you write a book. I could write it,
Speaker 1: could write it. They could check it out. I see
Speaker 1: the Biggie verse. That's it hurt me. They do. That's
Speaker 1: the smallest.
Speaker 5: That's it's kind of dangerous because yeah, it clones people's
Speaker 5: voices to where it can make up a whole fucking
Speaker 5: cram scene if anything.
Speaker 1: Wo wow, I didn't look at it like that. I
Speaker 1: heard you just say that. I ain't look at it
Speaker 1: like that Holy Moly walked along. It's uh m hmmm, Hello,
Speaker 1: I got that point between AI and the defint.
Speaker 5: Holding somebody for ransom, but cloning somebody's voice saying.
Speaker 1: My hold on. They did that.
Speaker 3: I haven't met Bill Cosby never, No, no, never, We
Speaker 3: would see it, you know. Most obviously work with them.
Speaker 3: Y'all seen y'all seen Most, But we definitely worked with Bill. Yeah,
Speaker 3: acting Wise Cosby Cosby mysteries. Most was like a sidekick
Speaker 3: most acting those man is wild man Most Most.
Speaker 1: I believed him as a doctor. I was gonna go
Speaker 1: see him. Yeah, you didn't see him in the eight ship.
Speaker 1: He was a doctor. I believed black Heart surgeon. I
Speaker 1: believed him him. But earlier I said that, I was
Speaker 1: asked about African Mambada, right, and African body had some
Speaker 1: very serious allegations against him, and I could see certain
Speaker 1: people hold him down. And I can also see certain
Speaker 1: people who just not want to talk about it. Period.
Speaker 1: What what is that type of stance for all three
Speaker 1: of your brothers when you say, because this man did
Speaker 1: do a lot of great things for hip hop, but
Speaker 1: those allegations are kind of crazy. So what do you guys?
Speaker 5: I toured with, man, I never experienced no kind of
Speaker 5: vibe like that whatsoever. You know. For the most part,
Speaker 5: what's still whole dear to me is what I learned,
Speaker 5: you know, from watching as a kid. So I still
Speaker 5: hold them in high regard of all the tenements of peace, unity,
Speaker 5: live and having fun, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 5: everything we actually adopted from the Zula nation, you know.
Speaker 5: And so I don't know any of that other stuff.
Speaker 5: And yeah, the ship is disturbing, you know. I am
Speaker 5: concerned for him, his family and for the victims, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So I respect that, you know,
Speaker 5: that's where it's at, what he said. Yes, I respect that.
Speaker 5: It's a touchy situation. Yeah, you know, this is it
Speaker 5: it really, it really is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: But you know, over this entertainment, we are still real people, man,
Speaker 5: and you know, people live lives and something. You know,
Speaker 5: I've remember a quote from Hillary Clinton. Every family has
Speaker 5: the dysfunctions. You know what I'm saying is that she got.
Speaker 1: Yeah the mono, Yeah, big of Hillary, Glen. That was
Speaker 1: hard drink yet Hillary big enough just just dist yoke,
Speaker 1: real ship, you know. So man, you know what is
Speaker 1: going on the quarter drink. You know what I'm saying, right, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: but because we received you know, yeah, I leave alone.
Speaker 1: Let's all right now, you don't want to put the
Speaker 1: rubber on there. You're just going he's going raw metal.
Speaker 1: He's raw metal. I see you, I see you, everybody.
Speaker 1: I see You're gonna shoot the video now, all right? Yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: I got god like one more that we're gonna get
Speaker 1: remember my ship drinks.
Speaker 4: I'll get through it.
Speaker 5: I know, I know it.
Speaker 1: We spoke about I don't know. We spoke about me,
Speaker 1: myself and early. But I want to go into depth
Speaker 1: about that record. Mm hmmm. Where where was you at
Speaker 1: when you when y'all wrote that record?
Speaker 4: Mentally, we didn't give it. We didn't care.
Speaker 1: I mean, were y'all doing it? Like?
Speaker 3: Was it just y'all walking around me? We had put
Speaker 3: together this album that was what it needed to be.
Speaker 3: We we thought it was a great album. Tell Me
Speaker 3: Boy was like. They loved it. They loved everything. They
Speaker 3: loved the fact that we could pull from the song
Speaker 3: called I Know and put you know, Steally Dan in it.
Speaker 3: They love how we could put from this song say
Speaker 3: No Go and take all the notes.
Speaker 4: But also Matt.
Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you, but they loved all of that
Speaker 2: without them wanting to try to look into clearing the sample.
Speaker 2: They I'm just saying they appreciated, they.
Speaker 1: Loved it all.
Speaker 4: But then they came to us like, Yo, we need.
Speaker 3: Something to jump off with, Like we need like something
Speaker 3: that's going to be the kind of the megaphone to
Speaker 3: bring people to the party. And so they said they
Speaker 3: needed a single. He always wanted to do something off Mace.
Speaker 3: He wanted to do something off the Deep Record record.
Speaker 3: I just felt like it was such a record that
Speaker 3: was so amazing us touching that what are we going
Speaker 3: to be able to do to that? So when when
Speaker 3: him and Paul or mainly May start putting the ship together,
Speaker 3: Dave was just on some clown ship with it.
Speaker 4: He was like, Yo, man, fuck it.
Speaker 3: So Yo, we're gonna we're gonna take this song from
Speaker 3: Jungle Brothers called black is Black.
Speaker 4: We're gonna mimic their rhyme style so.
Speaker 1: That the drinks I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: So it was I can drink though.
Speaker 5: He is not.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the blackest black record on Jungle Brothers straight
Speaker 3: out the Jungle album was like in a Meverick cut
Speaker 3: today people.
Speaker 4: So we we just took that rhyme style mirror mirror
Speaker 4: on the wall.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: So he was like, fuck it, we just did something
Speaker 3: so easy, wrote those rhymes real quick here and God
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, nigga, we're gonna make.
Speaker 1: This so you know.
Speaker 5: So it's basically this is your throat and was on
Speaker 5: the song black as Black. Yeah, and that's where he
Speaker 5: comes in in his little part black is Black. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we just took it from Black as Black. We just
Speaker 5: took that rhyme style from Jungle Brothers.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was just a throw away. There was no
Speaker 4: thought into that. It wasn't even on the album they wanted.
Speaker 13: It was just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like yo, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You had already turned in the album or you gave
Speaker 2: him the basically the album.
Speaker 3: They heard everything we had did and they needed we
Speaker 3: needed a single, so we was like, all right, an esthetic.
Speaker 5: It was more so at that time for black radio. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was called black radios.
Speaker 1: Called black radio.
Speaker 5: Straight up. We even got a billboard things says uh yeah,
Speaker 5: black bloody black music. Yeah yeah, I'm telling.
Speaker 4: You yeah, So it's like.
Speaker 3: Radio Yeah changed later, so that was like pretty much
Speaker 3: the second to last song that was done, wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The last song was living in a full time erar
Speaker 4: yeah wow.
Speaker 2: And then aesthetically the look that was the video and
Speaker 2: you guys that was always there, like you guys already
Speaker 2: had thought that through was it?
Speaker 1: There was no thought to it.
Speaker 3: I'm being honest man, like in us giving a throwaway,
Speaker 3: it had us giving who we were as people and
Speaker 3: how we was caring about shit.
Speaker 4: So once we saw that it was and it was crazy.
Speaker 3: I remember when the album came out and that ship
Speaker 3: came out and I'm a cute it was already DJing
Speaker 3: and and him was like, Yo, man, yo, Mercy ship
Speaker 3: is going and I'm an amazed this somethings like Yo,
Speaker 3: this ship is yoyo.
Speaker 4: I think this ship is about to go like this
Speaker 4: be myself And.
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 3: So it just kind of like the visuals just kind
Speaker 3: of was easy to fall into, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because I always say that.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm being honest and he's just right here
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 3: Like niggas wasn't no punk niggas, Like that video was
Speaker 3: a video like we weren't those type of dudes. We
Speaker 3: came from a place where you know, you could be different,
Speaker 3: but niggas knew you had hands. You know, you could
Speaker 3: sell drugs, but you could be into the coolest shit
Speaker 3: ever or the the you know, the punk rock shot whoever,
Speaker 3: who knows. Like that's one thing about Long Island, Like
Speaker 3: we hung out with the white kids who did the
Speaker 3: keg parties, and we brought them to our parties.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: So we was all around at Chartists. So that always
Speaker 1: wanted to be the dude upside down white people.
Speaker 4: So you know that's what it was. I mean, like
Speaker 4: it did work.
Speaker 3: It just kind of meshed into this thing like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: we can make this about individualism and you know, being
Speaker 3: confident in who you are as a person. And you know,
Speaker 3: but we were like the dudes who loved the most
Speaker 3: hardest shit ever. We you know, we we could sing
Speaker 3: you any koojie rap record. When this dude was sitting
Speaker 3: here putting out his first joints. We knew all them joints,
Speaker 3: like strong city joints. Like we loved hip hop, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But we had no problem with
Speaker 3: expressing ourselves the way we chose to express ourselves.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's something that's very unique about y'all as well.
Speaker 1: Is y'all very creative when it comes to them videos,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think not one of youall videos looked
Speaker 1: at like another one of y'all videos. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you this.
Speaker 3: I can know who I'm talking from my standpoint. Okay,
Speaker 3: I was the dude who wanted simple videos I want
Speaker 3: like Yo, there wasn't one E E P M D
Speaker 3: video that missed. Like I'm being honest, I think that
Speaker 3: every daylight video was me because this is me saying
Speaker 3: like that's your preference. Yeah, Like I just thought like
Speaker 3: we missed it, like maybe ego tripping, but just being honest,
Speaker 3: every video, like like when try would do videos and.
Speaker 1: Be like, oh shit, these niggas nold videos like it
Speaker 1: was like, but that's how I feel about y'all every time.
Speaker 3: Thing with us, The thing with us is that the
Speaker 3: director would be so tired of doing the n w
Speaker 3: A videos with all the bitches and da da da,
Speaker 3: that when Daylight came up, they would be more creative
Speaker 3: to creative, and we'd be like, oh man, come on,
Speaker 3: yeah for real, holy for real.
Speaker 4: Opposite like for real, like I feel like breaking down video.
Speaker 4: It was like What the fuck is this?
Speaker 5: What video?
Speaker 1: You said to break it down video where we yo
Speaker 1: it was just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's funny the hip hop needed that.
Speaker 4: You probably that, but.
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I mean, hit every video you rhymes.
Speaker 1: I always thought that you guys bust ahead in creditble
Speaker 1: like busters like you guys and bust to me and
Speaker 1: all the dopest videos. And to hear you say that
Speaker 1: affectionatest though, you know, I mean, yeah there who got
Speaker 1: it there?
Speaker 3: And like I said, I mean I would and I hope.
Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect any of the directors. I mean,
Speaker 3: like when we did ring Me Ring like yeah, like,
Speaker 3: but I'm just trying to say, like, I just felt
Speaker 3: like it didn't always have to be soul those look ringing.
Speaker 4: It didn't have to always you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You didn't want all the bells and whistles you want.
Speaker 3: To just kind of could just be I don't know
Speaker 3: if I said a certain verse, the visual could match it.
Speaker 3: You had the input we had, but I don't know,
Speaker 3: mankind didn't care as much?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Just like the more simplified. Like one of my favorite
Speaker 2: videos is the first Protected Neck video. It was just
Speaker 2: that I think it was black and white and it
Speaker 2: was just raw and gritty.
Speaker 1: That's ill.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think at that time, being young, willing to
Speaker 5: take someone's lead and that expertise of what they do,
Speaker 5: you know, and just seeing what they come with it.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of times if we didn't like shit,
Speaker 5: we didn't say it, you know. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 5: the dangerous part. We wouldn't say it, you know.
Speaker 3: So and by no means I'm trying to say I
Speaker 3: hated our videos, but I just felt like I never
Speaker 3: really walked away.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, like, yo, we nailed that ship
Speaker 1: went directors, you guys work with Diane Montelle ship, I
Speaker 1: can't even fuck it, Dave may Mark, Romantic Kid Ring Ring,
Speaker 1: y'all got the I mean they got a list we did,
Speaker 1: you know, say no go all that ship. But it
Speaker 1: probably went all out for you guys.
Speaker 4: And that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: Buddy was something because it was just a vibe. I mean,
Speaker 3: that was his family and we just had fun shooting Buddy.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, So what is your favorite
Speaker 1: video that you you ever film?
Speaker 8: For me?
Speaker 4: It would be Oh, I would have to agree, I
Speaker 4: would have to agree with you who was the.
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz. It looked like you guys are having
Speaker 1: fun on that.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of fun. And that's one thing
Speaker 4: about us as a group too.
Speaker 3: We was always willing and had no problem with having
Speaker 3: people showcase themselves, not worrying about us, because that was
Speaker 3: one thing that even people are Tommy was saying, It
Speaker 3: was like, yo, you know that this video is showcasing
Speaker 3: Redman and Rod Digger, like like you know, because y'all
Speaker 3: faces is covered so your fans or these new fans
Speaker 3: may not really see y'all, But we didn't care. We
Speaker 3: played into the artimic was yeah, that was us always,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But Sally had a one
Speaker 3: track mind. The way this Nigga sat here video, I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: Can we do a video like.
Speaker 3: Write the projects like we rarely did ship like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Fucking I know video and
Speaker 3: bubbles floating around. It was like, all right, and that's
Speaker 3: just crazy?
Speaker 1: Is is? I'm sitting around thinking y'all being the most
Speaker 1: creative and to me, I'm still standing by that. I'm
Speaker 1: not letting you change my minds. I think your videos
Speaker 1: was hard. I would look at y'all videos and be like,
Speaker 1: I want a video like that. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: creative like that. So the fact that you're sitting there,
Speaker 1: but I know you're perfectionists, I could tell.
Speaker 4: Like I said, it was just that.
Speaker 3: The directors was just so happy to do something for
Speaker 3: us because they felt like this could be something that
Speaker 3: can get me away from what I'm normally doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Stakes I was a
Speaker 4: dope video that was a video.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were supposed to actually with Nick Quested,
Speaker 3: we were supposed to do the business.
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. We just never big up
Speaker 4: my boy Nick Questions.
Speaker 1: You know, Nick Questioning was the guy that was following
Speaker 1: around the dudes that crushed the Right house, that crashed
Speaker 1: the Right house. He was the dude that was filmed it. Yes,
Speaker 1: he wanted. He went undercover and filmed it. He has
Speaker 1: a whole documentary that's about to drop of him filming
Speaker 1: the guys who stormed the White House. He's a mediac.
Speaker 1: I can believe it.
Speaker 3: Because the joint on stakes is high. Where the country
Speaker 3: dudes like rap some something. Just a bunch of niggas talking.
Speaker 3: That's something he had filmed. It is like Nigga always
Speaker 3: going to cover with some ship. Nick did my first
Speaker 3: two videos. He did l A l A and he
Speaker 3: did t O n y Nick Question. So wherever you
Speaker 3: got Nick Question, you know, I got to learn him
Speaker 3: with love for you, man.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he went in undercover for us
Speaker 1: as a people like he's hip hop like niggas not racist,
Speaker 1: So he had to go in front like a Nazi.
Speaker 1: He had to act like a Nazi to get down
Speaker 1: with him. He filmed the whole ship. He has the
Speaker 1: whole ship. This ship is amazing. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: obviously yet like he put the universal feelings to the side.
Speaker 1: He filmed the ship and so he has this whole documentary.
Speaker 1: Nigga's crazy. But by the way, I appreciate that, I
Speaker 1: mean I appreciate I always say that to my friend
Speaker 1: he's over there. If you, if you have white privilege,
Speaker 1: use your white privilege or your or your friend for
Speaker 1: your friends or your friend, if you have it, use it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying the same way, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use my black hip hop for you. And Nick questing,
Speaker 1: he actually did that, like he to me he paid
Speaker 1: you back hip hop, everything that hip hop has done
Speaker 1: for him, for him going under cover and filming the
Speaker 1: Magna by the way, which I want to seek.
Speaker 4: I definitely want to see that hold up.
Speaker 1: But let me just tell y'all, man, I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you brothers taking the time out to come see us,
Speaker 1: to come chop it up.
Speaker 5: We appreciate y'all having us strength.
Speaker 1: Man. Yes, man, I love the show man. It's your
Speaker 1: time to give you your flowers. I hate okay, and
Speaker 1: it really is because hip hop has saved my life. Literally,
Speaker 1: I had six months when I came home from jail,
Speaker 1: has six months to get a job. And if I
Speaker 1: didn't get a job, I would have went right back
Speaker 1: to jail. And you know a job I got is
Speaker 1: hip hop. That's doe, man, that's dope. I literally went
Speaker 1: to McDonald's and they told me no, yo, but I
Speaker 1: would have worked at McDonald's. I was willing to work
Speaker 1: at McDonald's and they told me no, you're a feeling
Speaker 1: it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: I mean, like Premier had told me something like kind
Speaker 3: of similar with Malachi, you know, like from Group On,
Speaker 3: you know, and hip hop. It was just like the
Speaker 3: judge was like yo, he can go away, and they
Speaker 3: was really speaking on behalf of them and they're having
Speaker 3: them say like yo, so why don't you have him?
Speaker 3: Do what y'all doing? You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 3: it's just dope power. Hip hop has placed people in
Speaker 3: the fabric of a culture, you know, and saved their
Speaker 3: lives with it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, that's everything, man, the.
Speaker 1: Company countries use name and just just just now like
Speaker 1: people from the Bronx Long Island, you know, queens. He
Speaker 1: supposed to be naming walsall Pope, dudes who Germany and
Speaker 1: like that. Like you know what I'm saying. You know
Speaker 1: what now we are yes, yes, because this is a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. It really is. Man. I really wanted to
Speaker 1: give your flowers out. I found out too late that
Speaker 1: Diamond d was coming here because we would have had
Speaker 1: you give your flowers. But we want to give your
Speaker 1: flowers with d I TC where everybody plays. We would
Speaker 1: love y'all put it together. Please don't want to give
Speaker 1: show biz a g flowers. Give you your flowers so
Speaker 1: bad because this is truly what me and EFN want
Speaker 1: to do is in this game, if you have ten
Speaker 1: years they say that you're washed up, and this is
Speaker 1: only hip hop. They don't do that any Rolling Stones,
Speaker 1: they don't do that in rock and roll. They say
Speaker 1: that you're seasoned when you have ten years or fifteen
Speaker 1: years or twenty years more. So I want to stop
Speaker 1: this and hip hop. That's the reason why we created
Speaker 1: this show is we want people that is seasoned as
Speaker 1: veterans to have their flowers, to.
Speaker 5: Have them stopped. Already, Yes, stopped.
Speaker 1: You truly, you guys, truly really, everyone who has fifteen
Speaker 1: years more in this game, we have to salute you
Speaker 1: to brothers like we have to. Like, I love the
Speaker 1: fact that Chuck d is what is it his thing
Speaker 1: now called Alliance hip Hop Alliance where he's actually fighting
Speaker 1: for us to get medical rights. Actually, Curtis Blow. I
Speaker 1: fucking love that. I want to support it so much.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to donate, I want to
Speaker 1: do whatever, because hip hop has to be taken care of.
Speaker 1: We have to take care of each other, so otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like it's kind of like whatever,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Because it's just like
Speaker 1: I say, with fad Joe, me and fa Joe haven't
Speaker 1: seen each other like six months, he's been busy. I've
Speaker 1: been busy, doesn't I don't have to I don't have
Speaker 1: to speak to him all the time. My love for
Speaker 1: him is always there. That's the same thing what we
Speaker 1: have to do with hip hop is like sometimes we
Speaker 1: can't participate, but the love has to always be here
Speaker 1: and with you guys. I seen that, Like I told you,
Speaker 1: I literally tears came out of my eyes seeing y'all celebrate,
Speaker 1: seeing y'all count that down, I was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: swear to god, I was like, I wanted to be there.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship Like. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I really wanted to rewind right after we were both like.
Speaker 1: I was like, if I would have knew an hour ahead,
Speaker 1: I would have I don't know how I would have
Speaker 1: got there, but I wanted to celebrate that moment. But
Speaker 1: this moment is also just as important because I wanted
Speaker 1: to give your flowers, see your face, and tell y'all
Speaker 1: how important y'all are to hip hop, how much that
Speaker 1: y'all contributed, and how much we appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 1: Man, for real, man, y'all bro, and you know what crazy?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I to be honest and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry this to David's here right now. Question, I really
Speaker 1: want me laughing at me. I feel him cracking jokes
Speaker 1: on me. That's what I feel.
Speaker 3: I said like he said it when he was here,
Speaker 3: he loved you because he really I remember us doing
Speaker 3: this thing with you and Tommy Boy, and we was like,
Speaker 3: he was like, yo, dog, this nigga got something.
Speaker 1: He's good at this ship. Yes, I feel him. I'm
Speaker 1: being honest. I feel him here in this room. Mean
Speaker 1: to be spiritual, like you know, it's crazy, I really do.
Speaker 1: Like like like when my father passed away, I became
Speaker 1: spiritual and I started to realize that maybe I didn't
Speaker 1: lose him. I lost him in the physical form, but
Speaker 1: I didn't lose him. And it be times I just
Speaker 1: feeling and I was telling you, Dave is in this
Speaker 1: room right now. We we love you, we miss you, brother.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold you down. Dayla soul Man, forever man.
Speaker 1: We we that is forever man, day soul Man. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate this. We did straight three hours man. It
Speaker 1: felt like three manes because because because I'm so excited,
Speaker 1: and you know what again, hip hop has to celebrate
Speaker 1: hip hop. Another coach is not gonna celebrate us. Yeahs
Speaker 1: ain't gonna big us up. Rock and Roll ain't gonna
Speaker 1: big us up. Heavy Meadow ain't gonna big us up.
Speaker 1: So we don't big each other up and tell each
Speaker 1: other how great you are, especially when you are great.
Speaker 5: Appreciate you.
Speaker 1: These people that's not great and they get bigged up,
Speaker 1: but your brothers are great.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 1: I want to say, rest in peace, Thank you man.
Speaker 1: I want to say, you know, daylight soul forever. I
Speaker 1: want y'all to know that y'all appreciate it. We love y'all.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hold y'all down.
Speaker 5: Love'll take you.
Speaker 1: Wanna take a couple of pictures, Let me do y'allo.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm being honest. You better not keep
Speaker 1: that down because I'm still that.
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