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Speaker 1: going on? My people? How are we doing? John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: three and out. That's the podcast, that's me. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: don't quite understand it. I never will. I think a

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Speaker 1: huge part of playing on primetime, whether it's Thursday, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Sunday night, or whether it's Monday night it's a

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Speaker 1: standalone game. This is not college football, where you're all

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Speaker 1: playing on one day no matter what, and everyone's even

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Speaker 1: if you're playing at night, there several games going in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. You get Monday night by yourself, you get

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Speaker 1: Sunday night by yourself, you get Thursday night by yourself.

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Speaker 1: And it's a really big deal, even in a league

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Speaker 1: full of a bunch of millionaires. Right, it's cool, and

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00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: I think it gets diminished tonight. And listen do I

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Speaker 1: I guess I have a horse in this race. I

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Speaker 1: guess because I have to talk about it. So I

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00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: gotta watch both games, but I got multiple TVs. It's

440
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: not the inability to consume two games at once. I

441
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: just don't understand it. I don't understand the logic. And

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00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: if you're ESPN, you got, you know, one game on

443
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Speaker 1: this channel, the other game on this other channel. Even

444
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Speaker 1: though there was a story today that ABC is going

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Speaker 1: to carry all the money night games as well as

446
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Speaker 1: ESPN because of the Riders' strike, Listen, that's something out

447
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: of everyone's control. I guess some of the studios some

448
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Speaker 1: stuff's in their control, or maybe Netflix or Apple TV

449
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Speaker 1: or whatever just gives up their streaming numbers, which they

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Speaker 1: don't plan on doing. But I just I just can't

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Speaker 1: rub my head around it. I don't understand it. I

452
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: don't like it, and I think it takes away from

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the pageantry is the right word,

454
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: but the power of just playing as the loan game

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Speaker 1: for all the players, all the coaches, all the fans.

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Speaker 1: There anyone listening to this that has been to Monday

457
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Speaker 1: night football, it feels a little cooler, right, Listen. Been

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Speaker 1: to a lot of afternoon NFL games when other games

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00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: are going on, that's a cool too, But something pretty

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Speaker 1: special about Monday Night football. And I think the devilheader

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Speaker 1: I got it historically, remember like when Chris Berman and

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Speaker 1: Trent dilferd Opening Night. Totally understand this week two, and

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Speaker 1: there's other weeks with it as well, So I'll just

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Speaker 1: never get behind it. Let's end with this making it

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Speaker 1: weeks in a row. I thought, coming into the Monday

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Speaker 1: night games, like, ah, I'm gonna have to give some

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Speaker 1: shine to McDaniel, Tua and Tyreek, and the Monday Night

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Speaker 1: game happens, and Jay and excuse me not JJ TJ.

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Speaker 1: I texted a buddy in the NFL tonight. I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's as good as JJ, but he's

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Speaker 1: like headed that way, right. He's he's on the path

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Speaker 1: to if he keeps playing like this for several more years,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be like, is there that big of a

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Speaker 1: gap between the two guys? I mean, JJ's a first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. TJ. Watt is also on that

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Speaker 1: path as a first ballot Hall of Famer. He is

478
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Speaker 1: such an elite player, the ability to constantly get in

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Speaker 1: the backfield, his relentless energy, He plays the run well,

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Speaker 1: the touchdown, the instincts just pick up the ball. Clearly.

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Speaker 1: I think high Smith has benefited just from being around

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Speaker 1: him learning. I thoroughly enjoy and I loved watching JJ

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Speaker 1: before the injury started taking a toll, kicking ass and

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Speaker 1: taking names on a weekly basis. I'd pay to just

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Speaker 1: watch TJ. Watt rush the pastor so you talk about

486
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Speaker 1: making it look easy, No one fits that better than TJ. Watt.

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Speaker 1: on a couple quick things, and let's start with the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. It's over Sean Payton and Russell Wilson. This

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00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: thing is over before it even started, and I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about it today. Think how many couples you know,

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00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: whether it's your friends, whether it's your parents' friends. When

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Speaker 1: you're younger whether it's you, you know, your wife, your

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Speaker 1: girlfriend's friends, where you go out with them, or you're

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Speaker 1: around them and you go, this is never gonna work.

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Speaker 1: The zero chance this is and if they are married,

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Speaker 1: this thing's gonna end sooner or later. That's Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Sean Payton, that this was a marriage that was

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Speaker 1: forced on each other. Sean Payton in a million years,

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, would never pick Russell

516
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Speaker 1: Wilson to be his quarterback. One from a personality standpoint,

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Speaker 1: they don't really mesh. Think of who Sean Payton liked

518
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Speaker 1: wanting Patrick Mahomes like five years ago. Remember that's who

519
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were scared was going to trade up for.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton really is an old school coach, kind of negative,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of angry, really good offensive coach, but

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Speaker 1: he's not mister happy go. He's smiling all the time

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Speaker 1: when he's in the building. And I've known people that

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Speaker 1: have played for him and been around him, and Russell's

525
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Speaker 1: the opposite. And Collins talked about this. He's a very optimistic.

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Speaker 1: Everything's going to turn out sunshine and rainbows, and right

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00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: now it's turning out. In completions, and losses. And at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, even if your personalities don't fit,

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Speaker 1: if you win or you're a great player, a coach

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Speaker 1: is going to want to work with you. Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: no longer does either. He's not a good player and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't win. Since he's been the quarterback in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Their record is four and thirteen. Like they're losing all

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Speaker 1: the time. Now, some of these losses, it's not all

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Speaker 1: on him, but he clearly is a shell of himself,

536
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Speaker 1: and he makes way more money than his talent and

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00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: the outcome of his abilities show now right, if he

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Speaker 1: was a free agent, what would he get. Someone might

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00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: take like some non guaranteed flyer on the guy, but

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00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: he clearly would not be making forty forty five million

541
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Speaker 1: dollars a year and have the contract which he has.

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Speaker 1: This's gonna be on Denver's books for a while now.

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Speaker 1: People ask me, like, how are they going to get

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Speaker 1: out of this? I don't know. I don't think it's

545
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Speaker 1: it's possible to trade him. No team is trading to

546
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: put that contract on the books. Even if you could

547
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: get him for literally nothing, like hey send us two balls,

548
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: a paraclets, two hot dogs, and a NATCHO and we

549
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: will give you Russell Wilson. Like that team would say

550
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Speaker 1: no because they would have to take back a contract.

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Speaker 1: So I do not think and you never say never,

552
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Speaker 1: because we've seen in the NBA it's like this guy's

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00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: not tradable, then he ends up getting traded. In football,

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Speaker 1: that's not the case. It's why so many guys honestly

555
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: who could still play, get cut because like, yeah, we're

556
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Speaker 1: not taking the contract. Look at Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook,

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Speaker 1: they could not trade him because he made fourteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: It was just numbers, right, It's like we want him

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Speaker 1: on our team, but you know we value him at

560
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: six seven eight million dollars. We cannot take fourteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Every million, two million, five million, ten million in a

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Speaker 1: cap you know, in terms of cap space, in terms

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Speaker 1: of dead cap, in terms of guarantee. Is very important

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Speaker 1: to any team builder. So this thing's over, Like the

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00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: divorce is imminent. Now there are complications to the divorce, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we've all known people who don't like each

567
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: other are essentially divorced, but don't do it. Maybe because

568
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: the guy is money, right, it's actually cheaper to stay

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00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: together for all parties involved. But it's like they're broken up.

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00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: Like this thing's over. You don't need to tell me

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Speaker 1: he's been cut to know that, Like Sean Payton's already

572
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: moved on. He said it yesterday, like he's already got

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Speaker 1: to cut the verbiage in the place because Russell can't

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Speaker 1: say them in the huddle. And let's face it, did

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll actually give him an easy place to play

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Speaker 1: because all Russell ever did was complain and all they

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Speaker 1: did was win. Yet he comes to Denver, they put

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Speaker 1: it all on his plate and he's completely overwhelmed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: last year, what was the story that came out? He

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Speaker 1: would be at the line of scrimmage and try too

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Speaker 1: audible and he would short circuit and say the Seattle

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Speaker 1: audibles and the wide receivers in the tight ends would

583
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: be like, what is he talking about? What did he

584
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: just say? I don't even know what that means. And

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00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: this year, clearly Sean Payton does not hold your hands,

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Speaker 1: smile and hug you. Every day is intense and giving

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00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: him long play calls that I don't know Drew Brees

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00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: executed for a long period of time, Russell can't even

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00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: get him in and out of the huddle. So and

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Speaker 1: then he says after the game, Sean Payton says, it's

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00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: not working out, and Russell is fine. This thing's over.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the outcome is going to what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, what year he's going to be cut,

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Speaker 1: whether he's bench, whether they tell him to go away.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's all on the table now moving forward.

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: And it's a complicated situation because of the contract, but

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00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: their relationship, this this thing was probably over before it started.

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00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: The Bears. I heard a pretty jarring stat today, which

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Speaker 1: I guess I would have known, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It still stood out to me, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if a lot of people realize this. Even though they

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00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: obviously they drafted one. Part of the reason we don't

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00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: look at the Bears the team that drafted one, because

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00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: they made that trade so early, so they ended up

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Speaker 1: drafting ninth. But they were the worst team in the

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Speaker 1: NFL last year, worse than the Texans, worse than Denver.

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Speaker 1: It was the Bears. And part of the reason the

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Speaker 1: Bears were They did not win a game last year

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Speaker 1: in November or December, I think, and they played in

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Speaker 1: January two. Now with the seventeen games, they have not

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Speaker 1: won a game since late October twenty twenty two. I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this September eighteenth, twenty twenty three. They have lost

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Speaker 1: twelve straight games. Now, no one is going to argue

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Speaker 1: with you when you talk about Justin Fields today. He's

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Speaker 1: not very good. You can't win with the guy. He

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Speaker 1: lacks quarterback skills that you need to play well on Sundays,

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00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: worked in Saturdays. I liked him as a prospect. I

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Speaker 1: was wrong. He's terrible. But I think you also have

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Speaker 1: to ask yourself, because I've been saying this, like Chicago,

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Speaker 1: even if he sucks, is going to be in a

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Speaker 1: good position because they'll lose a lot of games and

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Speaker 1: then they'll just have a bad record so they'll draft

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Speaker 1: Hie and they also have I'm recording this part before

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Speaker 1: the Monday night game. Carolina's not any good either. I'd

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00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: be shocked if Carolina won more than five games, they

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00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: could get two picks in the top five. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be in good position. But you also have to ask yourself,

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Speaker 1: even if you have a terrible team, shouldn't you figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to win a game During a twelve

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00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: game losing streak that kind of reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns and Hugh Jackson, except I don't know they

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00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: were trying to lose. The Bears are trying to win

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Speaker 1: these games. They are not tanking. They are trying and

634
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: putting all their chips in the middle of the table.

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Speaker 1: This is not the desired outcome, I thought, and I

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Speaker 1: thought a lot about it. Them not cutting Chase Claypool

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Speaker 1: tells me everything they need to know about their operation.

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Speaker 1: And I know he scored a touchdown against Tampa, but

639
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: that was an easy moment to just kind of set

640
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: the tone for every guy that Ryan Poles's drafted these

641
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: last couple of years that will never be tolerated around

642
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: here ever. Yet they saw him just keep practicing and

643
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: he end up playing and he had a touchdown. It's like,

644
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: it's just cool to do that, and you'll just say

645
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: you're sorry and keep battling. That's not what winning teams do.

646
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: And is Eba Flu's a good coach? How could anyone

647
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: say that? Does Ryan Poles know what he's doing? I

648
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you feel good if you're a Bears

649
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: fan about these guys? If this continues and you win

650
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: three or four games. These guys running your operation next year?

651
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: Is this the type team Caleb and his dad we're

652
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: talking about that. We will not go there, like, are

653
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you that operation where Caleb pulls an Eli Manning or

654
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: John Elway. Listen, Chicago. I've never been there, but I

655
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: don't even need to go there to say it's an

656
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: awesome city. It's a great sports town, and they love

657
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: their football team, which is a massive brand. It's in

658
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: theory it should be one of the biggest deals in

659
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: the sport. But they have just been consistently shitty for

660
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: so long. And it gets back to a couple things.

661
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: They want ownerships cheap too. They clearly have not hired

662
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: well and this current group like this is starting to

663
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: get to the line of embarrassment. Have not won a

664
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Speaker 1: game in twelve games. Twelve games. It's one thing Aaron

665
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Rodgers beata. It's another thing to kind of get shoved

666
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: around by Baker Mayfield. Ibra Flus is a defensive guy.

667
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: So I think the coach and the GM this is

668
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: the NFL man. Things change so fast now the ownership

669
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: is cheap, Are they gonna want to fire these guys?

670
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they do or will, but I think

671
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, you gotta wonder, is this the

672
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: group that we want pulling the trigger moving forward? When

673
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: we got all these picks coming. I don't know. I

674
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: don't because they are. They're getting worse. A couple other things,

675
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: some major injuries. I mean, Saquon had a bad ankle

676
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: role he's gonna be out several weeks. They play the

677
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: forty nine ers this Thursday. That thing will be ugly.

678
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: But the Giants did save their season by winning that game.

679
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I never understand, you know, you draft this guy, he

680
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: making plays the preseason, you don't have that explosive of

681
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: an offense. You don't score a point in Week one?

682
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: Why do you have to wait till the second half

683
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: to like unleash Chase Jalen Hilott, Like, why don't you

684
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: just throw him the ball the first couple? Like what

685
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: are we doing? I never understand why coaches, when you

686
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: have young players who are really talented, It's one thing

687
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: if it's Chase Claypool and he's like character guy and

688
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: you kind of driving us this other thing. It's like, well,

689
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: he's a rookie's got to earn his stripes. No, I

690
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: was like, this is the big league. Just just run

691
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: him deep. He's pretty fast, he sparked. From what I watched,

692
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: he sparked that team going because if they lost the

693
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals and then they would lose the Niners, you'd be

694
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: talking about there'd be no coming back from zero to three.

695
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: They'd be in major, major trouble. Then they play I

696
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: think Seattle Week four. I mean, you could be looking

697
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: at a five or six win team now, even if

698
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: you lose the Niners. You know you get ten days,

699
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: so you play Seattle. If you can get to two

700
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: and two, then you just try to somehow get a

701
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: ten wins. Right. The Borough thing, he looks off, There

702
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: was no Every time I looked up Lamar looks fantastic

703
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: and Joe Burr, if you didn't know he was Joe Burrow,

704
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: you would think the Bengals just have some average to

705
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: below quarterback. And I do wonder if that calf injury

706
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: has been not just nagging him, but not remotely close

707
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: to one. He clearly reaggravated it. Schefter made a comment

708
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: like he's not guaranteed to play this week. Burrow's missing

709
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: some games. The Bengals. Their season can get weird fast.

710
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: It really could, because I saw Shannon Sharp say something

711
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: like most guys don't get healthier as the season goes on.

712
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: So when you have early season injuries, hamstrings, calves like that,

713
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: how do you like even if you take a week off,

714
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: you're always worried about reaggravating it. Play quarterback, people are

715
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: hitting me low. You gotta scramble a little bit, just

716
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: naturally because your offensive lines. But getting smoked so that

717
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that would be pretty concerning. I mean, Lamar, this was

718
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: the pushes, like pay the guy and just unleash him,

719
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: just get him in the right headspace. He's worth it.

720
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Can he win in the playoffs? Only time will tell

721
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: and we'll have to learn that the next couple of years.

722
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: But when he's right as a regular season player, he

723
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: is dominant. He looks really really good. Save Flowers looks fantastic.

724
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Speaker 1: We know organizationally, they're just a high level, you know operation.

725
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: So Lamar Jacks is a fun player to watch. I

726
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: don't have much to say about Brandon Staley. It's just

727
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: part for the course. Kansas City gave Mahomes a ton

728
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: of money, which they didn't really have a choice. Once

729
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: all these other guys are getting paid, you gotta break

730
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: off your cash cow and your money maker. So not

731
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: surprised at that at all. I think the Chiefs, if

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00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm a Chiefs fan, listen to. The offense clearly is

733
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: a work in progress. But we got one of the

734
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: greatest offensive coaches ever. We have one of the greatest

735
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks ever. We have one of the greatest tight ends ever.

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Speaker 1: We have a really good offensive line and a good

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Speaker 1: running back. We're gonna be okay. I think the thing

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Speaker 1: to be excited about is we have a top five defense.

739
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Is our defense legitimately a powerhouse? Is it? Are we

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Speaker 1: a defensive team now? Because if you give Andy Reid

741
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: a defense, watch out. If they got a defense, which

742
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: they sure as hell look like they got one. To me,

743
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: they've drafted a bunch of dbs the last couple of years.

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00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: They look pretty good. We know how good Chris Jones is,

745
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: Karloskas they drafted. Their linebackers are fast. She's have a defense.

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00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: How are they not in the Super Bowl again? Them

747
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Miami anfety championship game. Okay, let's bang out a little

748
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: mail bag. You guys know the drill at John Middlecoff

749
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Speaker 1: is the instagram DMS wide open fire in to get

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00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: your question answered here on the show. Okay, let's start

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Speaker 1: with Connor longtime listener Broncos Wilson question. Heard you mentioned

752
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: several times that were stuck with Wilson for the next

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00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: few years. I understand there's a penalty for cutting players

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00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: on contract, but isn't it true if there's a will,

755
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: there's a way in the NFL, what are the exact

756
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: ramifications if we bench release Wilson and roll with hit

757
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: him or a rookie quarterback in the draft by stuck.

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00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Do you mean it would be idiotic? Yeah, I don't

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00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: mean there's not like an NFLPA rule. And obviously you

760
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: can bench him, right, you just have to pay him.

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00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: He makes an extreme amount of money. And when you

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00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: pay a guy, I don't have the exact guarantee. I

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00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,479
Speaker 1: actually looked at the contract breakdown earlier today in terms

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00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: of for the next several years right twenty three, twenty four,

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00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: and twenty five. If you just cut the player out right,

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00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: it creates an enormous amount of dead cap, meaning if

767
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: the salary cap is two hundred and fifty million dollars,

768
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: that let's just pick an even number to make it.

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Speaker 1: This example, let's just say you cut him in two years.

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Speaker 1: You have fifty million dollars in dead cap or forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars for a players not on your team. So yeah,

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00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: you can cut them. So when I say stuck it,

773
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: you can't cut him after this year. The dead cap

774
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: is too big for twenty twenty four. Maybe in two years.

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00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. Let's just say you guys keep losing,

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00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: which we talked about it earlier, that the match between

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00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: the head coach and the quarterback. I would say, as

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00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: human beings, clearly they're just they've never been a match.

779
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 1: And listen, not every quarterback and head coach or BFFs

780
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: or had the same personality, because when you're a good

781
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: player and a good coach, it just works right. But

782
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: if Russell's no longer a good player, they're just kind

783
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: of screwed. And I think big picture is just I

784
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: don't blame them for making the move. It's so easy

785
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: for people to say in Seattle like we saw this coming.

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00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I think every human being, every fan, and every GM

787
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: in the league, if they were in that spot, would

788
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: have made that deal. I mean, there have been reports

789
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: that the Eagles, we all consider and I've seen it firsthand,

790
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: how he's one of, if not the best, in the business.

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00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Try to make the deal. And Russell said, no, so

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00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: it's not. It's pretty crazy what happened. Like it's not

793
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: just a oh, it's kind of a slow believe, like

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: it's a precipitous fall off a cliff. That's expensive. I mean,

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00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: that's it's a double whammie. So yeah, listen, I think

796
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: that depending on how this year goes, I have a

797
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: hard time seeing them cut him. But as I talked

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00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: about earlier, he's not a tradable player. At that amount

799
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Speaker 1: of money, it was hard to trade Trey Lance. He

800
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: makes like four million dollars hot take from Colorado Game.

801
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Speaker 1: I like this question. I've watched her so many talking

802
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: heads calling for the suspension of Henry Blackburn for quote

803
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: unquote targeting Travis Hunter. Late. If the responsibility falls on anyone,

804
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: it's coach Prime. He gassed the situation from week one.

805
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: If you talk big, everyone is gonna give you their

806
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: best shot. Literally. I don't agree with Blackburn with what

807
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: he did, but all the emotional high stem from Dion's

808
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: mouth said to say, I saw this coming prime is

809
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: that good? So act like you've been there before because

810
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: with high expectations, because you have. I had the same thought.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind anyone talking, ever, because eventually you have

812
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: to back it up when the coach is the one

813
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: constantly talking like he doesn't have to play and listen.

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Speaker 1: I worked at a school that was not an equal

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Speaker 1: to a lot of teams we played when I was

816
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: at Fresno State, Like we were playing Wisconsin, we were

817
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: playing UCLA. It was a big freaking deal for everyone

818
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: on that team to kind of show out. Now, most

819
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: of those games were not contentious through the media, right,

820
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: But if someone on one of those teams, especially a

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Speaker 1: famous person, a coach or a star player, had said something,

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00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: the guys on our team, some of them might have

823
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: crossed the line. That's football. It's happened forever. Usually the

824
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: guy talking the most. Like when I was a kid,

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00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: it was the U. Well, they had the best players,

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00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: so no one was going to clap back. And I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated to see it. Does Dion. I don't care like

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00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I find it entertaining. I think a lot of the

829
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: media is over hot one. Dion's raiding right now, So

830
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: They're constantly going there for game day like it's rating.

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00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: They're not going there because it's a cool story. It

832
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: literally rates on television, and I think a lot of

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00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: people in the media now some of them are like

834
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: legitimately friends with them, right, Michael Irvin, Shannon Sharp. I mean,

835
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: these guys have known Dion forever, But then everyone else

836
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: is like trying to buddy buddy with him when he's

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00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: the head coach at Florida or Alabama or whatever the

838
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: next couple of years. I don't blame them. If you

839
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: cover college football, I'd try to get in good with

840
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: him too, But like, this is not gonna stop. I

841
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: will see how this week plays out with Oregon. Every

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00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: single dude on Oregon's defense, fair or not, probably thinks

843
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: of themselves as an NFL guy. So if something gets

844
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: said throughout the week like those guys are gonna not

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00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: look at Colorado as their equals, and it may turn

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Speaker 1: out they are. Like I don't know who's gonna win

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00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: the game. It's a huge Oregon is a big favorite,

848
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: but like Dan Lanny comes from the SEC. Now are

849
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: they Georgia? Of course not. But I'd keep an eye

850
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: on some of these better teams. Now, USC is not

851
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: wired like that. I mean Lincoln, but I already got

852
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Washington State has guys to me that would remind me

853
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: of some of the teams that like Fresno State, they

854
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: have guys that have been overlooked that you know, everyone's

855
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: gonna depending on what the records are. Washington State's good

856
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: this year and no one is gonna give a shit

857
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: about Washington State that week. And like, I'm sorry, this

858
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: is a competitive sport. People take that shit personally. This

859
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: is you know how some of these guys plan on

860
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: feeding their families at the next level to kind of

861
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: draw a line in the sand. Plus it's a violent game. Now,

862
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: was that a cheap shot? For sure? Some of these

863
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: comments I've seen on the internet the guys should be

864
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: like kicked out of football. It's like, give me a break. Fuck,

865
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: you shouldn't suspend them for a week. Okay, I would

866
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: have no problem with that, But like some of the

867
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: reactions over the top. If I was one of these guys,

868
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: like I don't want a piece every guy, older guy

869
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: right now that played in the league in the nineties,

870
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, that is being over the

871
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: top about this kid. Were part of things that were

872
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: very very similar to this, right, because football is all

873
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: about drawing a line in the sand. You're either gonna

874
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: get pushed around and lose or say fuck this. Someone's

875
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: getting lit up. Now the game is changed. You're not

876
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: head hunting. But and listen, I don't sucks Travis Hunter's hurt.

877
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: I don't want him to want him to play, but

878
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it's the last of this. Now it'll

879
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: be very very interesting. Like you said, Prime gasted up.

880
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: It got pretty outrageous last week, Like I just it

881
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: kind of jumped the shark for me. But now it's

882
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: getting real. Like you're gonna play Oregon, You're gonna play

883
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: USC you eventually play Utah. I mean you play UCLA,

884
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: like you play these guys got guys also going to

885
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: the league. They think they're better than you, like the

886
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Colorado State. I can't who cares. I didn't even watch

887
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: the game, But no one viewed them as equals even

888
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: though it's college football and at any moment a game

889
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: can be close. But like they're playing teams now where

890
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: they are going to be massive underdogs. Right, what is

891
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: it twenty points this week? Well, let's say they lose.

892
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 1: What's it gonna be next week against USC? USC plays

893
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know who USC plays this week, but

894
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna kill them whoever they think they play. Issue

895
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: like USC might be a twenty point favorite on the

896
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: road at Colorado. The games at nine o'clock Colorado. You

897
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: know on Fox, so big newon kickoff's gonna be there again.

898
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: It's just gonna keep getting amped up. And Dean's one

899
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: of the best players I've ever seen in my entire life,

900
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: but he's not playing anymore. So you talk a bunch

901
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: of shit like your guys are cross in the middle,

902
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: like it's for example, Shiloh, like he plays defense, so

903
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: it's like he gets to hit. But his son's the

904
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: quarterback and his boys are you know, the running back

905
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: is close family friend, the little wide receiver. You know.

906
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's gonna stop. It's not the

907
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: way football works. Sainks soccer. That's not a shot. I

908
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: enjoy high level soccer, though the MLS MESSI has kind

909
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: of rendered that irrelevant. In terms of the talent. I

910
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: think we often agree. Could someone tell Dan Campbell to

911
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: stop going forward on fourth down? They don't have the

912
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: Niners or Cowboys defense. It costs them momentum in the game.

913
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: You have to understand that the front offices and so

914
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: many of these owners obviously most owners are business oriented people. Well,

915
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: what do business oriented people know? Spreadsheets, numbers, percentages. So

916
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: when you say, hey, when we go for it in

917
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: these situations, we are let's say, thirty percent more likely

918
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: to win the game or score a touchdown or get

919
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: a scoring drive, they're behind it like these owners. Brandon

920
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: Saley used to do it like in insane spots, but

921
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: he was doing it because he knew the front office

922
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: and ownership were behind it. Dan Campbell's not going to stop.

923
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: And some of it's, you know, might be a gut

924
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: feel or you know what he learned for Sean Payton

925
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: to kind of be a gunslinger. But I'll promise you

926
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: this like it's going to continue. And when you see

927
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: all these teams and a lot of teams go for

928
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: it now all the time, you have to understand the

929
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: people with the money, aka the people signing the checks,

930
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: the owners are cool with it because they speak that language.

931
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: So it's it's not only not gonna stop, it's it's

932
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: probably gonna get more outrageous as time goes on, and

933
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm not even just talking Dan Campbell, I'm just talking

934
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: in general. Listen. I think you lost that game for

935
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: two reasons. One, Gino was awesome. Like Gino played, That's

936
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: got to be one of his better games in Seattle,

937
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: especially coming off, you know, a down game for him.

938
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: His numbers Week one looked worse than his actual play.

939
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: I watched that game last week in the middle of

940
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: the week. He actually wasn't that bad, but he was

941
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: good against you guys and got through the pick six

942
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: like that was a I mean, that's a huge swing.

943
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan here who doesn't really understand how the salary

944
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: cap aspect of the new restructured deal benefit the team

945
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: raising his per average, And couldn't they have just kept

946
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: him at how much he was making already because he

947
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: signed a ten year deal. Listen, Obviously they were never

948
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: gonna cut Patrick Mahomes. So the guaranteed money with the

949
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: overwhelming percentage of quarterbacks right, most of them are not

950
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: in Russell Wilson situation is kind of irrelevant because you

951
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: play out your entire contract. But once some of these

952
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: guys started getting the amount of money and technically a

953
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: lot of his guarantees were over. You kind of had

954
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: to take care of the guy, right multiple MVPs face

955
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: of the league. He is making so much money for

956
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: the franchise that I don't think they really had a

957
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: choice to do something like this. Does it impact their

958
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: salary cap a little bit? For sure. Anytime you give

959
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed money, it impacts the cap. Now, because of the

960
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: length of the deal, you can always push it back.

961
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the exact breakdown of the cap numbers,

962
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: not that I'm some capologists, but if I give you

963
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars guaranteed of or five year contract,

964
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: I can backload the hit on my salary cap, or

965
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: I can do it evenly. I can do it however

966
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: I need to do it. So I don't think it's

967
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: that big a deal that they clearly have a pretty

968
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: good idea what they're doing when it comes to when

969
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: it comes to salary cap. But I don't think. I

970
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: don't think they really had a choice. How ironic would

971
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: it be if Trey Lance wins a Super Bowl with

972
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on the bench before Kyle shanmer hand wins

973
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: one with the forty nine ers. Uh, you know? To me,

974
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: there's no connection there. He's the third string quarterback, third

975
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: string quarterback. He clearly the Cowboys are awesome and they'll

976
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: probably play the Niners again in the playoffs for the

977
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: third straight year. But Trey Lance has nothing to do

978
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: with either team. He was never gonna play a snap

979
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: for this forty nine er team, and he's never gonna

980
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: play a snap for this Cowboy team unless catastrophic injuries happen.

981
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: It would take catastrophic injuries happening for him to take

982
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: one snap. So hear what you're saying a little bit,

983
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: but I think I can't. I don't think he has

984
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: anything to do with the Cowboys. He literally doesn't. We

985
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: watched them play and he's not a part of it.

986
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Do you think Herbert should have held out on his

987
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: extension to make the Chargers pay for a legitimate coach?

988
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything he can do to get

989
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: them good enough head coach? Or does it seem lost

990
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: his leverage or does it seem like he lost all

991
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: his leverage because of the extension. Well, it's easy to say,

992
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: and it doesn't sound that crazy when I read your question.

993
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: You would have to be in your twenties pretty freaking

994
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: ruthless to do that, Like, I am not signing extension.

995
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up to training camp unless you get

996
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: rid of this coach. And that assumes maybe he likes

997
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: him personally. I don't have no clue about Herbert and

998
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley's personal, you know, working relationship, but I would say,

999
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: knowing people that have been around Herbert, I know a

1000
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: ton of scouts that you know, do Oregon extensively. That's

1001
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: not really his MO and his resume, regardless of how

1002
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: he you know, he feels. So is that move? Could

1003
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: someone do it? Of course like he did that. He's

1004
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: if he would have said this offseason it's I'm never

1005
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: going to sign an extension here if you don't get

1006
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: rid of this guy. The problem is, this isn't the NBA.

1007
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: I always get back to that, this is not the NBA.

1008
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: So the Charger would be like, yeah, let's just assume

1009
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: unless I don't know why they would want to get

1010
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: into a fight with Herbert. But you're not gonna be

1011
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: a free agent, So what does that mean? You're gonna

1012
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: play your fifth year option? That will tag you and

1013
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: we'll tag you again, Like you're just not gonna go anywhere.

1014
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: So it's it's more complicated than in theory how it

1015
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: should be kind of easy. You got to be ruthless.

1016
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys you know, are in

1017
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: their mid to late twenties. It's one it's, let's face it.

1018
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: When Aaron Rodgers started kind of being a little more cutthroat,

1019
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: he was thirty seven, thirty eight years old. Roger's a

1020
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: little bit older than me. But it's it's much easier,

1021
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, to I don't know, be more aggressive in

1022
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: business when you just have more experience in life. Right,

1023
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: most people are not wheeling and dealing at twenty six

1024
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: years old, Right, it's easier to do it at forty.

1025
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: Look at Tom. Tom and Bill finally had enough. Tom

1026
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: was like forty two years old, So it's much much

1027
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: more difficult to do at twenty. I don't blame him

1028
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 1: for just kind of staying out of it, and honestly,

1029
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be on him. It's not his. Indirectly it

1030
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: is his problem, but it's not his problem. He's not

1031
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: the one that runs to Organs. He doesn't own the team.

1032
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: I love sending you questions and I have another with

1033
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: the Jets and Broncos as good examples, say they end

1034
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: up in the top five range and they're able to

1035
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: draft a Sanders or a may Maze because of huge money.

1036
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: They're literally stuck. Well, the Jets would not be if

1037
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: somehow they end up going four or five wins, which

1038
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna judge him more this week. I think they

1039
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: play the Pats last week. That was a bad That's

1040
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: a bad matchup for Aaron Rodgers. Like they're losing that game.

1041
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys beat him with Aaron Rodgers nine

1042
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: out of ten times. It's just how are they gonna

1043
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: block Michael Parsons? Obviously they didn't. I don't think that's

1044
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: changing with Aaron now. Maybe the game plan he gets

1045
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. You know, Zach missed some open guys.

1046
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: He definitely missed one guy in the red zone. But

1047
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: I guess the a roundabout way of saying, and I

1048
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: think neither would hesitate. Could you see the Bears trading

1049
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: for Kyler if they don't get a top quarterback prospect.

1050
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll be in the mixic at a top

1051
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: quarterback prospect, I have. I have a hard time seeing

1052
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: them go If Justin Fields continues to do what he's

1053
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: doing and is terrible them trading for Kyler Murray. I

1054
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: just I don't see it. I look forward to the

1055
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: Sean Payton Bronco stuff. The hacket under the bus insult

1056
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: stuff is aging kind of hilariously kind of is I

1057
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: hadn't even thought about that angle sometimes? Listen. Is Nathaniel

1058
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: Hackett a good coach as an offensive coordinator? I have

1059
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: a hard time saying yay or nay? Clearly as a

1060
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: head coach he was overwhelmed with the time management and

1061
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. But let's face it, Russell Wilson

1062
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: was not his fault. That's Russell Wilson. Assuming the Raiders

1063
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: have an average two below average year, do you see

1064
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: us taking a quarterback along those lines? What quarterback do

1065
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: you think McDaniels would wish to select, seeing as mostly

1066
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: he likes pocket quarterbacks. Hopefully Mark Davis can pull his

1067
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: head out of his ass fire Mickey Deez and hire

1068
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: someone good at their job. Listen, I mean Josh the

1069
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: majority of his career orb with Tom who he had

1070
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: nothing to do with drafting. When he was in charge,

1071
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 1: he drafted Tim Tebow that obviously didn't go that well.

1072
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 1: I do think he clearly liked Mac Jones, so Mac

1073
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: is more athletic version of I would say, like a Jimmy.

1074
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, in theory, he should have liked Derek Carr.

1075
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: They clearly did not see eyed eye, So I have

1076
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: no clue. I really don't. I mean they're gonna be

1077
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the Raiders would get the number one

1078
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: overall pick. So if Caleb's off the table, you know that,

1079
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like Drake May. I

1080
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: texted with, you know, a higher up this weekend, right

1081
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: as the North Carolina game was kicking off and I

1082
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: was about to go out and do a little day drink,

1083
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: and I said, what's this guy's Is Drake May the

1084
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: real deal? He said, he's very, very good. So I

1085
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: mean we're looking at a guy who feels like a

1086
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: lock number two pick. Assume Shadu or Sanders does not

1087
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: come out. Given that, you know, Travis Hunter is coming

1088
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: back and his brother's there, So if Chador comes out,

1089
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: then I think him and Drake May would be in

1090
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: the mix for number two. I think Caleb, unless something

1091
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: crazy happens, like off the field, is almost set in

1092
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: stone at number one now they play, So I would

1093
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: never say never in life or sports. The Eagles new

1094
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 1: a OC is getting some flak after not having good

1095
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: offensive performances. Rightfully, so, they have a top five tied

1096
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: end and a top two or three wide receiver duo,

1097
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: one of the best o lines in football. But isn't

1098
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: a positive sign that a Vikings game he realized what

1099
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: wasn't working and kept pounding what was. Play calling is

1100
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: difficult and there's no real way to practice it. The

1101
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: fact that he adjusted in game is a positive sign.

1102
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: How many times do we see coordinators suggest seems like

1103
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot of guys just keep pounding their head against

1104
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: the wall expecting different results. There's gonna be some growing pains,

1105
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: but no one seems to really be pointing out the

1106
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: thing he did. Well. Here's what you have to realize.

1107
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: In the NFC, the Eagle, those Cowboys and forty nine

1108
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: ers are just judged off each other. No one is

1109
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: in their world like the It's like college football right now.

1110
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: It's like Georgia or Alabama when they were really good,

1111
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: or Clemson when they were really good. They're on a

1112
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: different level than everybody else. So there's no teams in

1113
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: the conference Seattle, the Rams, the Vikings turns out they suck.

1114
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: But all these teams, the Giants, like, they're not remotely

1115
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: as good as these guys. So the only way to

1116
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: win the NFC and they're all gonna play each other

1117
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: because the NFC West plays the NFC East, And like

1118
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: Colin I talked to about, it's just a three team race,

1119
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: so you're just judged based on the other three teams.

1120
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: And think of part of being an offensive coordinator for

1121
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles is like you gotta beat dan Quinn and

1122
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: that defense, and you gotta beat the forty nine ers defense.

1123
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: So those are the games that he's gonna get judged on.

1124
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean I my rule of thumb

1125
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: in general, I would say definitely pass. Like Halloween. You

1126
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: could even argue by like early October. Once you get

1127
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: to like week four or five Thursday night game, who

1128
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: cares what it looks like, just win and get out

1129
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: of there. Eagles won. Now I think we're a little harsher.

1130
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: It was the first Thursday night game of the year,

1131
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: so it's the wear and tear of having like a

1132
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Thursday night game in December. It's a little different. But

1133
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: I do think it's fair to say. I think what

1134
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: concerns people, is Jalen got all this money because he

1135
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: looked like an MVP. Anytime you take over as an

1136
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for a guy that looks like an MVP,

1137
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: you get judged on that standard. That's why it's like,

1138
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: is Ken dorstanding good? That's what everyone keeps asking. Does

1139
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: the guy know what he's doing. It's like, well, he

1140
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: took over Josh Allen, who was playing like an MVP

1141
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: for Brian daball in the last couple of years has

1142
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: been a roller coaster ride, and then he played the

1143
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: Raiders and he looked like an MVP again. So I

1144
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. I do, but I do think

1145
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: you get judged to higher standards. I was tweeting the

1146
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: same things yesterday against when Steve Wilkes was getting lit

1147
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: up by Sean McVay. He's not held to just, oh,

1148
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: just be a good defensive coordinator. Robert Sala was really good,

1149
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: got a job. Demiko came in was even better. That's

1150
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: who he's being compared to now. In fairness, you know,

1151
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: takes a couple of weeks. You just got Nick Bose.

1152
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: You gotta learn. But new coordinators are held the high

1153
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: standards when they're taking over for really good team. Wondering

1154
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Notre Dame quarterback Sam Hartman off to

1155
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: a hot start first round quarterback prospect. I would have said,

1156
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: coming into the season knowing the age, No, because not

1157
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: that I care that much about age. And if he

1158
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: plays ten years, multiple contracts, who really cares? And thirty

1159
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: five in ten years is probably the new thirty one.

1160
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be twenty five next football season, so

1161
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: you're drafting a guy who's twenty five years old. Now,

1162
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna play some really big games, right starting this

1163
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: week they have Ohio State. There are gonna be a

1164
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of people, the amount of scouts at that game,

1165
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: it's it'll be eye opening. And just in general, I mean,

1166
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: you start getting some of these conference matchup USC Colorado, right, Clemson,

1167
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: Florida State, Georgia, I don't know, Georgia doesn't play Bama,

1168
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't think, but you know BAM, LSU, those Michigan,

1169
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State, like you go to. Those those are the

1170
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: games you go to. And if you're scouting Sam Hartman,

1171
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: I want to see him in this environment. So I

1172
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: would say he's a TVD right now, I know I

1173
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: text with someone the other day that thought he was

1174
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: a third day prospect coming into this season based off

1175
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: previous film, which sounds worse than it is. Like, what's

1176
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: wrong that he can go in the fourth round. You

1177
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys go in the fourth, fifth round.

1178
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Then I'll start Sam Howe, fifth round pick, starting Rock

1179
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: Purty seventh round picks starting during the second year of

1180
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: their careers. So he's gonna get judged. I'm not saying

1181
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: they threw stuff out at wake Forest because his numbers

1182
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: at wake Forest were really impressive, but this year's big

1183
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: for him, it really is, and right now dramatically better

1184
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: than he was his last two years of Wake Forest.

1185
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: He was like thirty nine and fourteen, thirty eight and twelve,

1186
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: And clearly at wake Forest they're not as good as

1187
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: some of the teams are playing, you know, at Florida

1188
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: State Clemson, but he his completion percentage was never that high.

1189
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: And this year so far now they haven't really played anybody,

1190
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: but he's seventy percent, thirteen touchdowns, no picks. So I

1191
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: would say, right now you could argue Chador was an

1192
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: unknown right probably no one has helped their stock more.

1193
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: But what was his stock. He didn't have a grade, right,

1194
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: I got news for you, and no one gave him

1195
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: a grade. Come out of Jackson State, Sam Hartman was

1196
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: on everyone's radar, right, just like the Florida State wide

1197
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: receiver that had the big game against LSU. Like that

1198
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: guy was in Michigan State. Everyone was watching that guy

1199
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: because they had like a second round grade on him.

1200
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: Season ends. That guy is probably gonna go in the

1201
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: first round. Right. So Hartman's a guy fourth fifth rounder

1202
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe someone liked him as a third rounder.

1203
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: Probably not just and I'm just looking at the stats

1204
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: and watch him a wait for us. You have a

1205
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: year where you throw like forty five touchdowns lead Notre

1206
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: Dame to a playoff, Berth, you keep balling against the

1207
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: big boys. I'm fascinated to watch them. I gotta go

1208
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: to a wedding this week. That games at four point thirty. Oh,

1209
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be in the bathroom watching some watch

1210
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: some games on my phone. So he's got Ohio State.

1211
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: Then he's got at Duke, who clearly is not bad.

1212
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: They play USC still plays Clemson. They got a freaking schedule.

1213
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they really do these next two weeks are huge,

1214
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: and then Clemson, who's obviously not that good in USC

1215
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: but they got an NFL bodies and you got an

1216
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: NFL bodies. People in the league watch have a comment

1217
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: that a question. I was prepared to ask you to

1218
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: apologize to the Rams if we beat the Niner yesterday,

1219
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: but as a Rams fan, I'm still pumped. My question

1220
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: is given how well the Rams have looked the first

1221
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: two weeks without Cup. Do you believe that the Rams

1222
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: are a legit contender in the NFC once he comes back.

1223
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: I talked about this with Colin yesterday. I said, listen,

1224
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: I was wrong through two weeks. One Stafford looks really

1225
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: good and healthy, and McVeigh is just he's pretty dialed

1226
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: right now. Not that he wasn't last year, but it

1227
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: just took a toll on him. They hit on some

1228
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: young guys, young Zero. The pass rusher is just, he's

1229
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: a playmaker. And clearly Poka Natua is I mean setting

1230
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: records to two Outwell's coming on the running back. They

1231
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: have Williams from Notre Dame is pretty solid. Cam Akers

1232
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, just will not listen to McVeigh. Listen

1233
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: to someone who you know, I can struggle to listen

1234
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: to authority a time or two in my life. Who

1235
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to Sean. It's like, I don't understand their relationship.

1236
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: Last year hated each other, that they just were not

1237
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: on the same page, but then by the end of

1238
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: the year they were like, Okay, we're cool again. Then

1239
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,959
Speaker 1: this year it felt like everything was cool plays week one,

1240
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: and then something happens in the last six or seven days.

1241
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by Cam Akers and John McVay. Frustrating to

1242
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: be a Bengals fan because I think we could absolutely

1243
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: upgrade from Zach Taylor, but our team is talented enough

1244
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: to win enough games that he'll never get fired. I mean,

1245
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: this guy does not know how to scheme. Jamar Chase

1246
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: open of all guys, two straight zero and two starts

1247
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: just frustrating. I think this year is a little different

1248
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: than last. I'd be lying, I don't even remember your

1249
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: first two games last year. I mean, I know you

1250
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: started going two. Joe looked clearly he's injured right now

1251
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: and he might not play this week. I think that

1252
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: Calf probably worse these first couple of games than they

1253
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: even let on, and he reaggravated it to me. The

1254
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: eye test is just not there. And if Joe Burrow

1255
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: is not gonna play well, you guys are just not

1256
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna win. And your defense, lets face it, you lost

1257
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: some pieces. That's been an underrated part of the Bengals

1258
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: the last couple of years is coach lou and the

1259
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: defense was really good. Men. I watched Lamar Jackson kind

1260
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: of run stirtles around him, so that's to me that

1261
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: would be a little concerning. But you know better than

1262
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: me about just his play calling on a game in

1263
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: game out random opponents. It does feel like Joe Burrow

1264
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: has a little bit like I'll barrel everyone out right,

1265
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: where when you watch the Chiefs, for example, you go like,

1266
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: obviously Mahomes bails him out, but also Andy does as

1267
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: much for the scheme and the play calling. But it's

1268
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: a two way street, right, They're in it arm in arm.

1269
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels, at least in my experience as someone

1270
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: who's objective no bias, I honestly don't even care. I

1271
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: feel like at first I didn't like Zach Taylor just

1272
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: because everyone else didn't like him. But I don't really

1273
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: necessarily have an opinion because he's won a lot. But

1274
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: I do think It's fair to say it feels like

1275
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: Joe bails you out. And definitely the two wide receivers

1276
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: just make plays out of their ass. I don't know

1277
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: how often you repeated people for mailback questions, but if

1278
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: you see this, I got something. I'd like to see

1279
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: Belichick move on from US after the season and go

1280
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. Am I crazy for that? I know

1281
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: you say they need an offensive guy, but with Kellen

1282
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: Moore they have the talent. Belichick can actually have the

1283
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: defense right away. Yeah, I mean I don't hate that.

1284
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: I do think the Patriots are a couple more losses away.

1285
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: Are they looking at a six win season? And I

1286
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: understand he's chasing almost a Dean Spano. See he's chasing

1287
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: Don Shula. He's trying to break this record. But I

1288
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: remember Don Shula at the end was pretty It wasn't great? Right?

1289
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: Is this how Belichick's gonna go out with the Patriots?

1290
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: But I also don't see him quitting, So he's gonna

1291
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: have They're gonna have to force him out. And do

1292
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: they have the balls to do that? I don't think

1293
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: they do. If he's able to get like eight to

1294
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: nine wins, you win six and it's really really ugly,

1295
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: Like it hasn't been super ugly yet. To me, it

1296
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been. They've actually been better this year than last year.

1297
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: And didn't he go eight to nine, which not good enough,

1298
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: But but I that'd be awesome. Here's the thing with

1299
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: Bill with Belichick, Bills's still making a lot of money.

1300
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: And I understand football coaches, especially Bill. If you just

1301
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: saw his house or saw him pull up in a car,

1302
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: you would not know it. I think Bill Belichick's making

1303
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty five million dollars a year. He was

1304
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: making the craft so much money over a twenty year

1305
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: span that if you told me Belichick was making thirty

1306
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, I'd kind of believe you, which

1307
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: also works against him. Once you start paying a guy

1308
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 1: based on previous performance and what he's worth, like Belichick

1309
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: was worth twenty million dollars to that fifteen twenty five

1310
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: million dollars, so they're paying him a boatload of money.

1311
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: Once it starts going the other way, you go, this

1312
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: doesn't add up. Why are we paying this guy that much?

1313
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, like the Chargers, he would

1314
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 1: he just go to the Chargers for three years thirty

1315
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 1: million dollars. You know, it's seventy two years old. Do

1316
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: you see Bill in La Culturally? He's a fit in

1317
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: the northeast, grumpy, belongs in the cold. I mean, he's

1318
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: his nickname is the Hoodie? Is he just Manhattan beach guy?

1319
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,480
Speaker 1: Could you see Bill just kind of walking around Malibu shirtless,

1320
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, in in June. I have a hard time

1321
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: seeing that. And he's a Nantucket, Massachusetts, Providence I don't

1322
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: even know. I don't know why I said Providence, but

1323
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: just that upper quartile of the country there, I just

1324
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing. Oh Bill just roaming around

1325
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: San Diego and his off day, I don't know, don't

1326
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: see it. I would say a lot is on the

1327
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: table with Bill Belichick right now, a lot Broncos fan.

1328
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm out on Russell Wilson. Once he's out of the

1329
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: scripted plays, it's immediate and obvious. He plays losing football consistently.

1330
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: Now they had complete control of the game. What's crazy

1331
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: is I had it on one of those like those

1332
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: four split games that YouTube TV does, and I kind

1333
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: of stopped paying attention because they were up twenty one

1334
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: to three. So I'm like, oh, they're gonna win this

1335
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: game thirty to thirteen, and then I kind of peaked back.

1336
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it became twenty four to twenty one

1337
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: or Washington either had the leader and tied the game. Like,

1338
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: what the hell happened? If I were the Broncos, I'm

1339
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: doing whatever I can to get the guy the hell

1340
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: out of Denver. What if they gave him until they

1341
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: were out of the playoffs, put in Sidham for the

1342
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: rest of the season, Draft a quarterback in the first

1343
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,480
Speaker 1: round and make it clear to Wilson and his representation

1344
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: that he has no future on the Denver Broncos and

1345
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: only chance he has of sniffing the field again is

1346
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: if he takes a massive pay cut so they can

1347
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: trade him. Well, don't hate your logic and don't hate

1348
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: the mindset, but put yourself in Russell Wilson's shoes and go.

1349
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: They owe you X number dollars, whatever that actual number is.

1350
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 1: Let's just pick an even number. They owe you one

1351
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: hundred more million dollars. They have to pay you, especially

1352
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: if they cut you. In what world would you take

1353
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 1: a pay cut to even? Okay, let's just say that

1354
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: one hundred to fifty. Who wants that fifty million dollars.

1355
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: Imagine the pay cut Russell Wilson would have to take

1356
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: to make him a desirable asset. It would have to

1357
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: be an extraordinary pay cut in terms of I mean,

1358
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: it didn't have to go from like if he's making

1359
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year, I don't know eight million

1360
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: for anyone to be interested, because if me and you

1361
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: are running a team, I wouldn't take him on at

1362
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty million, let alone forty. But if you're Russell, why

1363
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: would you take Why would you even entertain that You'd

1364
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: just say cut me, make me a free agent, pay

1365
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: me my money. Businessman. It's it's a contract and the

1366
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: only thing you have your leverage as a player is

1367
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 1: that guaranteed money, and the Broncos gave it to him.

1368
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: So I don't think even taking a pay cut makes

1369
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: him a desirable piece on the open market. I actually

1370
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: think he's kind of toxic. And he's not a bad guy.

1371
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: He's not like he's some criminal. He's not like he's

1372
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: toxic like Antonio Brown. He's toxic because he's super famous.

1373
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: He's now super polarizing because of his play, and he

1374
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: makes a ton of money and last year, like it

1375
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 1: felt like the last couple of years, his ego and

1376
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: his relatability in a locker room was not there. It's

1377
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: a huge knock on Carson Wentz for one of the

1378
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 1: reasons that Jalen was beloved in an easy move for

1379
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: Howie and Lurry to make because everyone liked him, people

1380
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: like Russ. I'm not saying they don't like Russ, but

1381
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they're head over heels for the guy.

1382
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: How much longer Staley got I know the spanels is cheap.

1383
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: How was this guy ever? The DC? His defenses have

1384
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: no discipline, two personal fouls on third down leading to

1385
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: a touchdown, wasting Herbert. I'm not even a Charger fan.

1386
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: I think if they start like one and four, one

1387
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: in five that he's a mid season fire and they

1388
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,639
Speaker 1: just they just basically do a tryout period with with

1389
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. I have nothing left to say at this point.

1390
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: If you've been listening to me for a long time,

1391
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said everything there is to say, so

1392
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: I hear you. I think the only question now is

1393
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: when do they fire? And I you know, this business

1394
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: is weird, Like I'm not, I would never ever root

1395
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,839
Speaker 1: for anyone to get fired in life. It's just it's

1396
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. It's part of the business we

1397
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: talk about. But I'm amost talking about a guy making

1398
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: probably eight million dollars who has no business making eight

1399
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: million dollars. A lot of phonies in frauds in sports

1400
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: man because of the amount of money in terms of

1401
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: executives and coaches. It's it's you can't be a phoney,

1402
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: your fraud as a player. Because even say what you

1403
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: want about Russell Wilson, now, he had eight years of

1404
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: backing it up to deserve a contract. It just doesn't

1405
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: exist anymore. But he he earned that over his play,

1406
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, for a long period of time. Like his

1407
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: resume spoke for itself. You can't fake it as a player,

1408
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: you can't. But you can fake it as coaches, you

1409
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: really can. You can be in better situations. You can

1410
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: have your friends take care of you. Agents placed guys

1411
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: now and I think this guy, I'll say this, he

1412
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: he had he had the right guy kind of stamp,

1413
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: given the stamp of approval early and that was Vic Fangiel.

1414
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: But and listen, I'm not saying the guy's not a

1415
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: good position coach, but he's he's hell, he's coordinated in

1416
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: the NFL for one year and it was a team

1417
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: that had Aaron Donald in the peak of his powers.

1418
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, I mean pretty damn good players. Johnson, the

1419
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: dude that signed with the Browns. I think he's back

1420
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: on the Rams now, But I mean, go look at

1421
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: the roster in which he coached the year with the Rams.

1422
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 1: I'm riding in halftime, so maybe this question will age poorly.

1423
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: Are the Giants the worst team in the league. Yeah,

1424
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: that's funny. It's funny, man, it was not looking good.

1425
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: It was because they play the forty nine ers this Thursday.

1426
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: You're down twenty to nothing in half. You've been outscored

1427
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: your first six quarters, sixty to nothing. Lifeless. It's one

1428
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: thing to get your ass kicked by the Cowboys. They

1429
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 1: beat you, what twelve of the last thirteen times you've played.

1430
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: They just better than you. It's another thing to go

1431
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: on the road at Arizona and lose that game and

1432
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: you had to find a way to win it once

1433
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: you're down twenty nothing at halftime, like whatever style points

1434
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: out the window. Just win the freaking game. And I'll

1435
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: say this, they won the freaking game. If you were

1436
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: the owners of the Raiders, how would you fix the team?

1437
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: What is it gonna take for the Vegas to be

1438
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: a consistent winner? I texted someone this yesterday. I've been

1439
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 1: watching the Raiders very very closely now for over a decade.

1440
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: No team, let me repeat, no team that never drafts

1441
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: like one or two. A lot of the time they're

1442
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: like seven and ten or eight to nine or nine

1443
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: and eight, like they're just kind of six seven wins.

1444
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: They get blown out more often for a team that

1445
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: isn't like drafting one, more than any team in the

1446
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: league I have seen, and any Raider fan knows this.

1447
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: You guys have been blown out more over the course

1448
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 1: of a decade than any team that's not tanking or

1449
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: destined to draft one. Like this Raider team's gonna win

1450
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 1: seven games minimum. They might I could see them win

1451
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: an eighth, but seven eight games and they're gonna get

1452
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: blown out three or four times this year. This is

1453
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: crazy to watch. It happens all the time with this team,

1454
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: and I think it speaks to obviously. Defensively, they're just

1455
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: consistently not great. They have a ton of holes. They

1456
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: just have issues always. Now part of it is he

1457
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 1: signed Chandler Jones to be Max Crosby's running mate, and

1458
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: through two weeks Chandler Jones leads the NFL in tweets

1459
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: like I in his tweets like I don't even know

1460
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: where to begin. What do you even say? If you've

1461
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,919
Speaker 1: seen his tweet threads, he hasn't played either game, Clearly

1462
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: there is something going on there, team player. I don't

1463
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: even know. Some of the tweets disturbing. It's just it's

1464
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 1: a bizarre situation, but that it just feels very Raiders.

1465
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 1: The Raiders are always in bizarre situations. They lead the

1466
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: league in bizarre situations and have most of my life.

1467
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: How bad can Fields look before he gets benched or traded?

1468
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he has much trade value, especially mid season.

1469
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: So he's in his third year, so no team. If

1470
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: they traded for him to pick up his fifth year option,

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01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: he was what the eleventh pick, so he makes a

1472
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: decent amount of money. I was thinking about this last

1473
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: night after I got done with Colin. It is insane

1474
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: to think about that three quarterbacks who all stink. Zach

1475
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: Wilson might be the best, but even that, I mean,

1476
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: Trey Lance may never play another game in the NFL.

1477
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: He is not guaranteed to ever play another game in

1478
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: the NFL. Fields is completely overwhelmed, and Zach Wilson isn't good.

1479
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: All three of them got drafted above Micah Parsons, who

1480
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: feels like not just if he doesn't get injured, a

1481
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: lock Hall of famer, like one of the best players

1482
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. See that guy yesterday. I know they've

1483
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: played the Jets, but holy Keno, that guy looks like

1484
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: that guy's incredible. All three of those guys can't play

1485
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: dead in a Western, and they got drafted over Micah Parsons.

1486
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: Weird year twenty twenty. But Phil even like Jalen Wattle,

1487
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: some of those guys justin Fields went after him, right

1488
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Pinasul Michael Parsons. Now part of it was

1489
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: historically Penn State from a scouting perspective, is always very

1490
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: weird that they're not They're not very open, Like if

1491
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 1: you ask anyone that goes into Alabama or some of

1492
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: these schools, like it's pretty easy to get information you

1493
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: go into Penn State. Maybe it's changed. I don't actually

1494
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: have heard. It's not great And there was some weird

1495
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 1: red flag stuff like whatever. I look at Michael like

1496
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: high character guy, great human being. If you redid that draft,

1497
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: here's what I know for a fact, it goes Trevor Lawrence,

1498
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. That is a fact. Jack who goes third?

1499
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: We'd have to we could debate that, but there is

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01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: no question who goes one and two. Okay, we got

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01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot of mailbag questions this week, so I think

1502
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: I will end on. I will end on. Okay, we'll

1503
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: do one more question for the Pods. Sending this a

1504
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: week late as they just had an away game. But

1505
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: you've never heard seen anything like the Chargers non home

1506
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 1: field advantage in LA. There were points in the Miami

1507
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: game that they were going silent count in a home game.

1508
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: Seems like they are playing fourteen to fifteen away games

1509
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 1: per year. I just want Herbie to thrive, fire Stalian

1510
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: Go Ducks. The Rams are dealing with this too. When

1511
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 1: they played the forty nine Ers, I mean that was

1512
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: like seventy five percent Niner fans. Thing with LA is

1513
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: not only they did not have a team for whatever

1514
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: two and a half decades. That's a long time in

1515
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: LA is an enormous area with a lot of transplants,

1516
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: and the thing with the Rams like whatever you were gone,

1517
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 1: you left, people found new teams. The Chargers had a home,

1518
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: and I understand there were some financial issues. And no

1519
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: one will support you when you argue with the politicians

1520
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: in California, the local politicians that they're always embarrassing. I've

1521
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: seen it with the Niners dealing with Santa Clara. I

1522
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: saw it with Oakland. The Oakland's the worst, but La

1523
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: San Diego, you name it. So I'm not even acting

1524
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: like Dean. Spanos might have had some fair arguments. I

1525
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 1: don't even know what they were, but they should have

1526
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: found a way to stay that they really should have.

1527
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: But Dean definitely not a visionary and I understand the

1528
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: thing I don't understand with a guy like Dean who's

1529
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: just going to give it to his kids. We up

1530
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: the value of our franchise moving an hour north, What

1531
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: does that mean? I don't It's not like you're doubling

1532
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: your home value where you can take a heelock out

1533
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: of it and use it to buy another home or

1534
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: something like what does that mean? What? Okay? Does that mean?

1535
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 1: You just get to be a little richer. It's not

1536
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: really impacting your team because the media deals, you have

1537
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: enough money for everything. You don't own the stadium. You

1538
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 1: pay Kronky a dollar rent every year, so you get

1539
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: to build some cooler facilities and elseigundo wherever the fuck

1540
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: you moved to. Like I don't understand the added value necessarily,

1541
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: like I understand it from Mark Davis. If he's forced

1542
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: to sell, he will make a dramatic you know, lee

1543
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: more being in Vegas than Oakland. Like that that makes sense.

1544
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Like the Davis family is not gonna own the Raiders forever,

1545
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: and whenever they sell it, they will benefit dramatically from

1546
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: that move. Spano's family ain't selling a team. So what's

1547
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 1: the endgame here? You have no fans. I went to

1548
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: college with so many San Diego people, and I swear

1549
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: to god, they all loved the Chargers. I'm talking Diehearts.

1550
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: They're all, you know, they kind of have the surfer

1551
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: vibe San Diego chill when that when the Charger games

1552
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: came on or it was time to talk football, they

1553
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: knew their shit, and I've always felt for them, Like

1554
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I was biased because when the Raiders moved,

1555
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: I was at the station that had the Raiders. But

1556
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: it was never gonna work in Oakland. Oakland is a disaster.

1557
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's a joke. All three teams left in

1558
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: five year span. Think about that. The basketball team Lakeup

1559
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of there fast enough. Mark Davis just

1560
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: didn't have any money in Vegas to open up their checkbook.

1561
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 1: And the A's are just they can't survive in Oakland.

1562
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: So three professional teams and three different sports will leave

1563
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 1: Oakland in a five year span, Like, that's one of

1564
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: the last places in America you would put a team

1565
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three would be Oakland, California, promise you that. So,

1566
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: as someone that didn't want them to leave again, I

1567
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: had an agenda. I was biased. It's one hundred percent

1568
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: the right move. I'll never agree with the Chargers move. Ever,

1569
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: I understand why stam came back, right. I guess stadium.

1570
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: The stadium is incredible. It's you ever get a chance

1571
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 1: to go to that thing. It's mind blowing how nice

1572
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: it is when you walk in. And I've been to

1573
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of stadiums, I think it's one of the

1574
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: greatest things I've ever witnessed in person. And I'm not

1575
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: talking like I've been to like the Rome Roman Colisseum

1576
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: or the Statue of Liberty. I'm just talking sporting wives.

1577
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of venues for a lot

1578
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: of different sports. That feels like the modern day. I

1579
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: don't know, Fenway Parker, you know it's different. Obviously, it's

1580
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: not like anything. But my point is, you walk in

1581
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: you I've never seen experienced anything like this. This is

1582
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: this place is beyond cool. It's just this is where

1583
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: i'd want to play if I had a team. And

1584
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I think both of them battle having fans, which I'll

1585
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: say this for LA, like they have two franchises that

1586
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: have a ton of support, and that are the Yankees

1587
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: are the biggest brand in baseball, but the Dodgers are

1588
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: arguably second. And it pains me to say this because

1589
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: I fucking hate this team, But the Lakers are the

1590
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: biggest brand in basketball. So it's not like LA doesn't

1591
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: like sports. They do a lot. I just think football

1592
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: you leave for that long. Mcveigh's cool and all, but

1593
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: the Rams only get and they just want a Super Bowl.

1594
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: The Chargers are never going to be relevant. They're probably

1595
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: like the seventh team in LA, right, the Niners, the Raiders,

1596
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: clearly the Rams. I bet they're sneaky a lot of

1597
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 1: like the Northeast group with the Giants, the Jets, the Eagles.

1598
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of those two people in southern California.

1599
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: So it it sucks, and I don't think that home

1600
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: field advantage will ever change. Like the Raiders have fans,

1601
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: but you put them in Vegas, like it's an easy

1602
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: place and a fun place for away fans to go.

1603
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: The other thing is like they play in a division

1604
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: against the Broncos, against the Chiefs. You know they play

1605
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: in the AFC. So you're playing the Steelers, you're playing

1606
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: the Jets. You're gonna play franchise that have a lot

1607
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: of fans, and going to Vegas is cool. Going to

1608
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: Vegas is fun. Going to Vegas is a pretty easy trip.

1609
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: There's direct flights, you can stay there for relatively cheap.

1610
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 1: So that's certain places you build stadiums. It's just gonna

1611
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: be the if the Bears are good, if the Niners

1612
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: are good, if the Jets are good, Like these people

1613
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: have been in the same place forever. When you're a nomad,

1614
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: you can't complain about having issues with home games, right.

1615
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: There's a reason Michigan and Ohio State and Duke basketball

1616
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: like they've been there forever. I mean, you don't have

1617
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 1: to worry about that moving, so I don't feel sympathy

1618
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: when you deal with the backlash of issues with home

1619
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: games when you move a lot, part comes with a territory.

1620
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Have a great week. This is a

1621
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: longer podcast because we did a lot of these mail

1622
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: band questions, but we'll keep them pumping all week and

1623
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: three more podcasts come. Let's roll Baby. The volume