WEBVTT - Alumni Association-Jerome Jurenovich 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.720 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.280 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.920 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:15.800 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.880 pill poppers in the penthouse, the clearing House of Hot 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.599 takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:29.320 Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, back 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:34.479 at it on a Friday, a mead October, the middle 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:38.640 of October. Here we are back in the magic podcast machine, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.680 the salt mine of podcasting, and it is our Friday show. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.080 We do this because four hours a night have been 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.320 deemed not enough according to the management of the company 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.239 that I work for, Fox Sports Radio. And so we 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.880 we say, you know what, Let's do this eight days 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.240 a week. We do the radio show five days. Let's 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:59.720 do the podcast. We can curse, we can scream, we 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.040 can shout on this podcast. And so a spinoff of 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.200 the Overnight Show. We thank you for finding the podcast. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.000 Tell a friend, Tell a friend. We need to grow 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.480 the podcast audience. And as I like to say, if 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.360 everyone listening, if you listening right now, tell a co 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:22.959 worker or a relative and they listen, we have instantly 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.600 doubled our market share in the podcast world. But enough 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.840 of that. This weekend. Very excited here on a Friday 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.880 to catch up with a friend of mine by request. Now, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.800 I've known this guy for many years, but I didn't 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.600 work with them, and we've had several listeners who have said, Hey, 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.520 you've gotta you gotta get this guy, and I want 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.400 to hear what he's up to. H I'm talking about 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:53.480 Jerome or seeing that headline sports, that's that's the legend. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.680 Jerome Daranovitch, who has worked for the Atlanta Braves and 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.640 the the Atlanta Hawks as well over the last fifteen years. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.960 She just retired. It doesn't seem like you should have retired. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.440 He's a young young guy in my eyes. But he 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.720 has retired now and he worked in Denver and he's 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.000 been all over the place. But you hear him talk. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:19.200 He is Western Pennsylvania through and through and he worked 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.520 at Fox Sports Radio briefly. And so we are excited 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.480 to go and the way Back Machine, a beloved broadcaster 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.760 and a person that went out a few times, had 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.480 some drinks with good times, good memories back in the day. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:36.240 And Jerome, why don't we start. You were at Fox 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:40.480 Sports Radio, part of the Alumni Association. Are your dudes 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.120 paid up? You know I have not paid up to 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:44.960 do this, but don't tell anybody. I think I just 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.160 left the cat out of the bag. But maybe our 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.519 good friend Art Martinez will cover for me the next 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.960 time the dudes are do Yeah, yeah, Well, Already is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.760 an active member of the Alumni Association that I see 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.239 already once here Now for those that you know behind 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.320 the scenes inside radio, Jerome the great Art Martine Nuez, 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.639 a rock on the board, one of the great engineers. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.519 And really I've had a lot of board ops and 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.079 engineers over these but Art Martinez in all time greade 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.639 and you better not mess with the raiders or Already 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.600 is gonna bring it down there a legend and I come, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.560 but I invite Art to my I do a Christmas 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.600 party like a holiday sweater party thing every year, and 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.760 Already shows up. I didn't do it last year because 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:25.840 of that whole COVID thing, but Already shows up, and 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.480 he's always the first person there, and Jerome he's the 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.880 last person to leave. Every year I've had this, Art 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.120 Martinez stays until the very I gotta kick him out 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:41.560 of my house. There's no shock or surprised by coming 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.480 first and staying till the end. Let's just hope that 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.320 he doesn't go trick or treating as Jon Gruden. I 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.760 know he's a big great I think he's gonna have 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.360 to put that. Yes, hopefully he didn't send any emails 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.560 to John Gruden that might come back and get him here. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.440 And now, you weren't at Fox Sports Radio all that long, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:05.640 but you're you're an East Coast guy living in Los Angeles, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.760 Rome at the time. That's a that's an eye opening experience. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.080 I don't you've traveled around. You're a worldly man, you're 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.640 a globe trekker and all that from your years in 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:16.520 the media. But living in the belly of the beast 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:23.000 in l a good, bad, ugly I still miss it 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:27.800 to this day. I moved out of there in two 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.400 thousand and four, and my wife is tired of hearing this. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.200 I still talk about moving back to California. I the 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.000 first three months were difficult transition for me. It took 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.920 about three weeks just to get settled into that three 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.039 hour time difference. I kept waking waking up at four am. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:47.080 He was driving me crazy. But once I learned my 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:52.480 way around and just got a little foothold into Los Angeles, 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:58.440 I absolutely loved it, especially on college football Saturdays, nine 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:01.800 am kick off and you're not You're going to bed 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.040 five games later before you go to it was I 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:07.200 just loved Lost. I loved the weather, I love the energy. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.920 Hated the traffic, but Atlanta has the second horse traffics 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.160 in America behind l A, so I was used to 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.040 being in terrible traffic. I loved everything about it. Now 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.200 that was a long long time ago, since I left 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:22.440 a long time ago, so I'm sure things have changed dramatically. 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.880 I know the fires are just horrible out there, but 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.359 I just I loved Ela. I just loved every minute 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.599 of it. I had lived previously in New York City, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.720 and I'm hold enough to grow up on Johnny Carson 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.120 when he would have celebrity guests, and if they were 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.360 New Yorkers, they would complain about l A. If they 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.080 were West Coast people, they would complain about New York. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.160 The whole l A New York rivalry. Never understood what 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.280 they were talking about. Because I was a kid, having 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.839 lived in both, I am sold on Los Angeles and 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.920 a heart people, a chamber of commerce. Now you're right, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.559 l A has changed a lot room they've the city 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.080 has gone down. Now. One thing that has not changed, though, 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.560 And I actually have some good news for you. And 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:00.880 I know I haven't talked to you in a while, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.599 but the same exact equipment that you used back in 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.200 the day at Fox Sports Radio at the premier networks 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.720 has not either been fixed or upgraded. It is like 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.480 a time capsule saved posterity sake. And I've been working 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.240 from home a lot to Rome, but I actually went 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.960 in this week. I was at the the Dodger Games 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.440 the other night and so I went in there and 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.080 it is unreal. Nothing has been touched you this, I'm 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.839 not exaggeratingbody with the same exact setup. So you could 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.800 if you decide to unretired Jerome and come back to 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.960 Fox Sports Radio and you know, take the family out 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.599 the Cali, pack up the dogs in the station wagon, 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.799 the wife, the whole thing. You would then be able 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.880 to be very comfortable in our old old building because 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.680 it's still exactly the same. You'll be happy that so 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.320 that coffee staying on the rug left there by John 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.320 Ireland in two thousand and three remains, is what you're telling. Yes, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.800 that is an There's a Tony Bruno. I think one 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.240 time he he put some bubblegum down on the floor there, 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.799 and that's still still there under the table of Pat O'Brien, 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:08.680 who hasn't worked there in years. P o b he 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:12.600 actually taped for some reason, Pat taped the dollar bill 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.360 to the table in there, and that remnants of that 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.800 dollar bill are still taped to the to the main 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.480 studio table. So it is there's a lot of history 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.200 in that building to room at Legends like yourself worked there, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.960 and they don't they don't want to change anything. Anyway. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.960 We mentioned already Eric Peterson are great producer friend, he 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.880 also worked. I mean, so there's legends in that building. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:39.120 Jerome legends, legends, some of us not so much, but 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.520 you know, Pat O'Brien, Tony Bruno, and the guys absolutely, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.600 My buddy Chris Rose, no question. So I was talking 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.360 to another member of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.640 who I occasionally talked to, Tom Looney, and I said, Tom, 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.880 what's Jerome dorenovis? You know he's I don't have Jeroman 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.120 and he's got any Jerome stories. He said, Now I 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.240 thought he was pulling chain here. He says, you gotta 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.640 you gotta ask him about the flowers, is what Looney said. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.480 So do you know, I mean, are you there was 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.200 a flowers This is a cord of loony. I he said, 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.720 he was not pulling my chain here, Jerome. He said, 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:18.040 there's a legendary Jerome Drenovich flowers story from your days 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.440 at Fox Sports Radio. Is this true? Or is Looney? 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.600 I don't I don't know. I don't know if flowers 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.560 doing Now I'm old Ben. Yeah, so I don't get 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.200 flowers story. I don't know what flowers. Yeah. He he 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.800 had claimed there was an incident somebody was ordering flowers 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.280 and you were asking questions about it, and then, uh, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.640 you don't. You don't recall it. So so that might 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.800 have been a Looney That might have been a Looney 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.520 story that just got on the podcast. That was an 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:48.080 incorrect story. Either that or he remembers it and you 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.720 don't remember it was such and it was an unmemorable 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:55.200 experience for you. Well, you know what, if Looney says 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.800 it happened, I'm going with Looney's side of the story. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.960 So even if it makes me look terrific. I'm going 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.880 with Looney, but he's not loved LOONI, but he's Looney. He's, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.000 I mean, the guy his names says, how can you? 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.280 He's the funny thing about Looney now he's he's like 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:13.160 a hard news guy. He does news now at k ABC, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.120 one of the news talk stations in l A. And 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.319 it's great and I hear him sometimes and it's it's 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.079 tremendous because you know, you think like you're the news guy, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.679 you gotta be all serious and all that him. But 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.960 he's his name is Looney. Now you'd be when your 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.520 name is Looney, you can't be the serious news guy, 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:37.720 right crazy he is Loonie, m j T legends, legend. Yeah, absolutely, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.160 part of part of that time. So now when you left, 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.640 didn't you go to Denver before you went to Atlanta? 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.600 Am I right on that? Or am I imagining that 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:50.839 in my head? No? You are correct. I left Fox 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.520 Sports Radio in Los Angeles and went to Denver to 0:09:55.000 --> 0:10:00.160 launch the Altitude Sports Network. Stand Cockey decided he as 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.440 legendary as you people in l A know, as the 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.840 owner of not just the Rams, but of about nineteen 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.960 thousand different sports teams, including the Denver Nuggets in Colorado Avalanche, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.840 and he owned the Pepsi Center at the time and 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.720 decided that he wanted to UM owned the rights to 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.640 the broadcasts of his two teams there, so he started 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:23.679 his own Cave regional network and I was hired over 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.880 there to be the main host as they launched that. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.880 And let me tell you then, boy, I first of 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.080 all love stand I'd work for stand Mar. He was 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.960 great After Nuggets gains. The bar inside the then Pepsi Center, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.040 I don't know what it's called now, UM called the 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.600 Blue Sky Girl. He'd come down and me and three 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.360 or four got we'd be sitting at the bar having 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.520 drains after the game and just talking to him like 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.839 a casual fan. What a great owner. You would never 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:51.600 realize he's one of the wealthiest men in the world. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.840 He was just he was just a great guy. It 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.439 still is. I'm sure he was great to work for UM. Now, 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.760 the people that ran Altitude, I can tell you stories 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.640 all my goodness. UM. When they flew me up there 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.559 for the interview, we were in the same building as 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.440 the Hallmark Channel, so they walked me through the Hallmark 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.680 Channel and kind of a link in a NOD We're 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.160 leading me to believe that that was their production set 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.560 up when it wasn't. So when we launched Altitude, thankfully 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.120 that was the year that the NHL had a lock out, 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.960 because we would not have been prepared to be able 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.600 to broadcast Nuggets and Avalanche games at the same time. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.679 We were so understaffed and under equipped. I was hosting 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:34.280 the Nuggets pregame, post game and halftime without an analyst 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.720 and without a desk, and with no highlights. I will 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.920 stand out there and just talk for thirty minutes all 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.840 by myself. And we had literally had one video tape deck. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.920 So in television to edit, you have to have one 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:49.760 deck to play the tape and then edit on the 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.760 other one. We only had one only to record. So 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.240 they would send us the highlights from the Nuggets game 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.959 from the truck and we would use that in the 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.120 postgame show, but we wouldn't have any highlights from many 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.120 other games and I'm just out there talking for thirty minutes. 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.120 So thank god I came from those four years in 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.760 radio because it was just unbelievable. We had we had 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.840 a couple of people there that were in management positions 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.840 that had no business even working in television, little management. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.760 It was a complete nightmare. It was fun, made some 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.079 good fact friendships over those two years. The teams were 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.160 great to deal with, the first class. Uh, The Avalanche 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.120 and the Nuggets were both first class to deal with. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.000 The players were great, the organizations were great. Kike Vanderway 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.599 was running the Nuggets at the time, Pierre Laqua was 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.480 running the Apps. They were It was fantastic to deal with. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.160 They were both good teams. It was Carmelo's second and 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.960 third season, so they were playoff teams those two years. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.480 And the Apps were still had Rob Blake and Joe Sakic. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.240 They still had a good handful of guys from the 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:52.160 Stanley Cup run. So they were exciting teams. But it 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.080 was just a not a good position to be in 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:57.439 if you wanted to work in sports TV at the time. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.880 And then so after two years, my first contract was 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:02.520 I got out of Dodge as fast as you could 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.240 and took the job. I just retired from a couple 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.719 of weeks ago. Yeah, So if you had known at 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:11.080 the time that it's like looking at a hotel you 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.679 want to stay out online, they show you all the 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.600 nice rooms and then your your rooms are in the 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.920 back on the on the other side of the tracks. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.760 That's uh, that's essentially so, I wanna give me a 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.920 stand cronkey store. So I've seen standing at these ram 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.520 games if a few times I've been to Sofi Stadium, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.160 I saw him at the college see him. Actually more 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.480 like everyone's kind of segregated at the Sofi Stadium in Inglewood. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.360 The media's kind of separated from the rich people and 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.560 all that stuff. But but stand, isn't he the I 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.880 think I read he's the largest landowner outside of the 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.120 United States government, that he owns more land than anyone 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.760 else in the United States, which is amazing to me. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.040 That you like parts of Texas, New Mexico all over 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.360 the place, he's uh, he's got you know, that would 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.520 not surprise me because I know and and I under standard. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.040 Although Ted Turner's health is not what it used to be, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.280 but he is also one of these massive landowners. They 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.120 brought up massive amounts of land in Montana and New 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.760 Mexico and out west. You know, most of it's an 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:17.199 inhabited but uh, you know it's look, as my late 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.840 Ultle used to say, God ain't building anymore land he's 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.720 gonna want to get on that land eventually. And you know, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:25.800 I mean, what else you gonna do when you got 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.760 that many We were talking billions. When you got that 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.920 kind of money, I mean, you know, what are you 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.560 gonna do? So I mean, yeah, well, you know, staying 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.920 well to give you my one stand story that I 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.320 really like the most. Okay, so I get there. Um, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.480 Andre Miller is the point guard. They got Carmelo Marcus 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:49.280 Camby is our center. Um, we had a nice little 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:52.640 team there, you know, playoff team. Kenyan Martin was our 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:58.240 power forward and he used to drive me nuts because 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.920 you know, we basically got five arrow bread's out there 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.040 on the court and Andre Miller's walking the ball up 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.440 the court you want to It was like he was 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.440 allergic to a fast break. And I'm sitting there going, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.520 what are you doing? So We're in the bar one 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.360 day after a game, and they had one day one 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.040 more often then they lost, and then I'm sitting I 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.760 go stand. You know, he's got his entourage with him. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.600 We're sitting there and I go, stand, you gotta get 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.760 rid of Andre Miller And he goes thrown. He's a 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.840 good basketball player, very good. I said stand. I'm not 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.920 saying he's not a good basketball player. He is a 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.800 good basketball player, no question about it. I said, he's 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.720 a great half court point guard. I said, but you 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.720 got Gazelle's out there and this guy's walking the ball 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.720 up the court. Can you imagine if Magic Johnson walked 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.760 the ball up the court, we'd never have showtime. He's 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.600 got you gotta push it. You don't got Kevin mckill 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.800 and a bunch of cloggers out there. You've got guys 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.120 that can run when we on, When we run, we 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.400 run teams out of the gym, especially here at home 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.280 with this altitude. I said, but he doesn't want to 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 push it. He doesn't want to push it. And then 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.000 next thing you know, they George carl in there and 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.520 then they just start running the ball. And I'm sitting 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:04.240 there going singing. Come on, man, you don't have to 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.640 be there in realize Andre Miller is not your point. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:10.680 But he was. He was very open to having those 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:12.840 kind of discussions and just sit there and have a 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.440 bever with you and talk basketball. He loves sports, There's 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.080 no question. Man loves sports. Yeah that's cool, that's pretty 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.600 pretty neat. And the the altitude droome. Now you having 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.760 lived all over the country, Pennsylvania, guy in New York, Atlanta, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.040 l A. It is it legit? Though? In Denver? Is 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.680 it is? It? Is it an? Is it reality? No? No, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.320 it's there's no question that, Bob. Is you? So I 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.880 am there, I'm there. I get there on a Monday 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.360 that Thursday, air Force is hosting Navy on Thursday college 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.080 football Thursday night. Came and a couple of guys we 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:48.920 we didn't even launched it. We're not launching until the 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.080 next Monday. So a couple of guys go, hey, you know, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.040 I said, heybody, can we get to this Air Force 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.400 Navy game? I'd love to go down to the Academy 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.920 and see it. And guys are going, yeah, no problems. 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.680 So they called. We go down and we get tickets. 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.520 And if you've ever been to the Air Force Academy, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.119 beautiful facility. By the way, when you walk in, you 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:08.840 basically walk in on field level. When the fields a 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.320 little sunk. You're walking on field level and you gotta 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.480 walk up to your seat. And we're walking, you know, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.120 we had a couple of a couple of cold ones 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.199 in the parking lot, but nothing out of control and 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.720 I'm I'm walking and I'm like, oh my goodness. I 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.520 know it's been a couple of months because of the 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.840 move where I haven't worked out or anything, but I'm 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.000 I'm like gasping for breath and these people are looking 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.800 at me like what is wrong with you? And when 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.360 we finally got to our seat, because we are about 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.440 three quarters of the way up the stadium, up right 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.920 by the press box, I'm like, guys, I don't know 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.800 what's going on here, and they're like laughing at me. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.160 It was the altitude. It was the altitude, no question. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.800 If if you're not used to it, I don't know 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.600 how these teams fly in, run up and down that 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.399 court like that, and then fly back. And there's no 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.640 question you would see it effect teams, especially like late 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.480 in the third quarter or the fourth. A lot of 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.320 teams like to come in, like on a Tuesday night 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.080 to play a Thursday game, just to get an extra 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.600 day in there. But you come in especially, you come 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.119 in a lot of these teams arrived one in the morning, 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:07.720 you know, and they get into their hotel room to 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.480 three in the morning. They have a rough night, no question. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.040 well you would think the teams in Denver would take you. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.439 You said, Andre Miller walking the ball up the court. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:22.720 But that's yeah. And so then you go to Atlanta 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.080 and you're happy not to Jerome. You know this podcast 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:29.679 and the radio show. Now I do these Friday conversations, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.280 you know, with random people like yourself, important people like yourself. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:37.639 And I've had several people in Georgia, but not just Georgia, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.159 like all over the South because of the reach of 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.160 the channel you were on there, like you gotta get 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.000 Jerome on you. You claim you know Jerome durnomous. People 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.800 are doubting that I know you. And so you have. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.280 You have a bunch of fans there from your days 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.360 with the Braves and the Hawks, and which just ended. 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.159 When was your last day on television? I know you 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.760 worked this season for the Braves, right when when did 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.680 that end? My last day was the day they clinched 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.080 the East. It was the third and final game of 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:09.440 the Phillies series, in that final homestand and it was 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.240 fifteen years here with the Braves and the Hawks. And 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.600 you know, Ben, I'll tell you a funny story. So 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.200 I come from Denver, where the Abs are good, where 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.880 the Nuggets are good. And I had lived in Atlanta 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.400 previous years, so we're seeing in fourteen and a half years. 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.359 So I go from CNN in Atlanta to l A 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.800 with you guys, and I'm in Denver and then come 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.960 back here as I'm as I'm moving back here, I'm 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.040 going through a divorce. My wife ex wife stays in Denver. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.639 So I'm going through a divorce and it's very amicable. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.080 She's great, we're still good friends. It just didn't work out. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.719 One of those things. God bless hers. So but legally, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.520 you gotta go to court, you do this stuff, right. 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.560 So she's still in Denver. She goes just go you know, 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.399 we're not contesting anything. It's just a matter of legality, formality. 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:52.120 So I go to the courtroom, you know, and there's 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.240 all these couples in they're going through all this divorce court, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.680 you know, and there he said, she said, they're crying, 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.479 they're fighting whatever. And then the judge calls me up 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:01.960 there and asked where the wife is and I explained. 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:04.320 He goes, okay, and he goes, why I've got questions 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:05.840 for And I go all right, and he goes, my 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.600 first question is what do you do for a living 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.520 and I tell him and he goes, and what brought 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.240 you here to Atlanta? I said, well, I said, they're 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.880 starting the pregame and post game for the Atlanta Hawks, 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.360 the Atlanta Thrashers, and the the Atlanta Braves. And he goes, 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.360 what were you doing before? I said that same thing, 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.800 but for the Denver Nuggets in the Colorado Avalanche. And 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.600 he goes, the Nuggets in the Avalanche or playoff teams? 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.439 Aren't they? I said, yeah, they're very good. And he 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:30.600