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Speaker 6: with our UFC fight Night Rosenstrike versus Gazivri recap and

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Speaker 6: world champion, the Undefeated, the Great Johnny Evelyn as well

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Speaker 6: scheduled to join us on the back half of the program.

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Speaker 6: But Headlines Today, brought to you by Cuervo, begins with

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Speaker 6: Jarsenio Rosenstrike, Biggie Boys, a good egg. You had a

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Speaker 6: lot of support from the Surrey Noam faithful in the

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Speaker 6: building there at the UFC eight Packs. I mean, how

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Speaker 6: did the Surrey Noam folks get corner of the market

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Speaker 6: on tickets at the UFC eight Packs? I mean, I

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Speaker 6: felt like I was in fucking surreynam But it is

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Speaker 6: a TKO for Rosenstrike and it comes at the end

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Speaker 6: of you could argue twenty merciful minutes, but he gets PASTIAML.

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Speaker 6: Gazibe by TKO. There, Rosenstrike was the underdog, his jab,

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Speaker 6: led the dance and told the whole story and gets

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Speaker 6: a big win when he needed it, his eighth UFC

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Speaker 6: win for BIGI Boy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, listen, this was not the pin goal of mixed

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Speaker 4: martial arts in the UFC, but you know it was

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Speaker 4: still it was still roses Strike getting it done. And

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Speaker 4: sometimes it doesn't have to be pretty, you just have

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Speaker 4: to get it done. Get the win by any means necessary,

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Speaker 4: and I think rosen Strikes patience I think was the

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Speaker 4: staying in the fight in round one, he didn't make

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Speaker 4: any major mistakes giving up a submission there. It wasn't

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Speaker 4: a great round one for him, it was a very

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Speaker 4: good round for Gazeve and then from there it was

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Speaker 4: like a completely different fight. Rosen Strike was able to

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Speaker 4: keep the proper distance keep Gazive on the outside. We

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Speaker 4: saw Gazekee get very tired and very frustrated. I think

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Speaker 4: the efficiency or lack thereof in his takedown technique really

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Speaker 4: clearly has been working on his takedown defense, especially up

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Speaker 4: against the cage. I think the athleticism difference was pretty

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Speaker 4: apparent in that fight as well, which means Gauzefe really

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Speaker 4: I think a setback for him. He was undefeated heading

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Speaker 4: And ultimately it was Mark Goddard who noticed that Gazevee

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Speaker 4: A lot of times we're always criticizing referees. I think

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the no nonsense Mark Goddard over the weekend. I

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Speaker 6: us that time. No, I do I think that Jarzinia

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Speaker 6: the rest of his coaches. Write Steve Bruno, I mean,

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Speaker 6: this is certainly a fighter who has an appetite for

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Speaker 6: to credit Biggie Boy. But perhaps the bigger story here

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Speaker 6: is not on the heavyweight gatekeeper Jarzino Rosenstrike, But on

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Speaker 6: Shamil Gazebe, who came in here with a pretty good

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Speaker 6: and I think the question going into the fight was

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Speaker 6: a great one. That Shamil Gazebe at this stage of

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Speaker 6: and I know you sort of illustrated some of the

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Speaker 6: some really bad visuals on the side of the guy

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely, listen, you can't peek your face out there

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Speaker 4: He was eating a lot of shots. John just seemed

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Speaker 4: You know, it just seemed like he was confused out there,

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Speaker 4: that's what he did in round four and that's where

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Speaker 6: Up and Chargino rosen Trek is getting better and he

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Speaker 6: deserves credit as such. We congratulate Biggie Boy moving as

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Speaker 6: UFC record two eight and five. All right, So when

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Speaker 6: watching live, but when v Tor Patrino and Tyson Pedro

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Speaker 6: were in that small, tiny, twenty five foot octagon at

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Speaker 6: the Apex, I said on the broadcast, like, I don't

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Speaker 6: contested at a pedestrian, methodical, conservative pace was because of

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Speaker 6: the respect that each man had for the potentially concussive

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Speaker 6: Patrino the Brazilian over Tyson Pedro by unanimous decision thirty

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Speaker 6: twenty seven times two twenty nine to twenty eight from

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Speaker 6: the dissenting judge. Tyson Pedro classy as ever, retires after

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Speaker 6: the fact, but v Tor Petrino did what he needed

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Speaker 6: even though maybe it wasn't the fight I build as

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Speaker 6: premium on Letted only, still a nice win for Vitor

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Speaker 6: Patrino over the credential Tyson Pedro.

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Speaker 4: I agree, Listen, I think Petrino fought smart and had

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Speaker 4: to fight smart. I think he showed a healthy respect

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Speaker 4: to Tyson Pedro for a reason. I think that Tyson

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Speaker 4: wasn't able to counter like I thought he would have

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Speaker 4: been able to. Patrino didn't throw himself out of position

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Speaker 4: think he realized that that challenge that was in front

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Speaker 4: little bit more aggressive, but fights with that same positioning

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Speaker 4: and with those same fundamentals, I really think he can

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Speaker 4: mess up a lot of guys in that division. Listen,

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Speaker 4: Tyson Pedro's big. Petreno is massive, Like this dude just

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Speaker 4: I mean, he looks like he can go and do

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Speaker 4: a bodybuilding contest tomorrow. You know, he just has those

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Speaker 4: genetics in that size, which is just a head scratcher, Like,

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Speaker 4: big dude, and boy, he's got power as well. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: and you go, well, that's cool. He looks big, but

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Speaker 4: he's slow. He looks lethargic out there. Not the case

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Speaker 4: for Petrino. He also carries that explosiveness as well and

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Speaker 4: he really is an interesting guy to watch in that division.

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Speaker 4: So I saw some improvements in his game, and Tyson

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Speaker 4: Pedro just really wasn't able to get things going enough.

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Speaker 4: It was just the power, the volume really was what

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Speaker 4: God had done for Petrino.

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Speaker 6: Tyson Pedro is a real gentleman. He sent me a

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Speaker 6: message after the fight and just really heartwarming to get

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Speaker 6: that from a retiring Tyson Pedro. You do feel bad

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Speaker 6: for a guy, at least in terms of the injuries

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Speaker 6: taking away a decent chunk of his fighting prime. But

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Speaker 6: when he came back, he realized success. I think won

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Speaker 6: three of five fights since he came back from what

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Speaker 6: was a three plus year layoff. But I think the

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Speaker 6: big issue for him obviously is parenthood, right and wanting

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Speaker 6: to spend as much time with his daughter as humanly possible,

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Speaker 6: and also the fact that he lives in Australia, but

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Speaker 6: City Kickboxing is now his home gym, and just when

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Speaker 6: the City Kickboxing striking system is starting to seep into

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Speaker 6: his subconscious, he's at a point in his life where

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Speaker 6: for financial and other reasons he isn't able to spend

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Speaker 6: that much time away. But we congratulate Tyson Pedro on

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Speaker 6: the way out, and we look forward to Vitor Patrino's

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Speaker 6: next fight, presumably against somebody in the light heavyweight top fifteen.

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Speaker 6: Kenny Brandon roy Vaal scheduled to join us here in

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Speaker 6: about five to ten minutes. I want to get to

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Speaker 6: the flyweights. This night was built as moving night for

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Speaker 6: the flyweight division and moving on up to number seven

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Speaker 6: in the world at the very least will be Mouhamed Mokayev.

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Speaker 6: I think if you ask Mohammed Mokayev, he wouldn't mind

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Speaker 5: Us, Thank you for having me bro, I appreciate you

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Speaker 6: Congrats on a huge win over Brandon Moreno. I think

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Speaker 7: And I had it in my head before the fight

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Speaker 5: So I was like, there goes a draw or something

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Speaker 7: as like I lost as a draw. So when they

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Speaker 7: said my name and then my coach was celebrating, I

432
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Speaker 7: was like, Okay, I want and it was like a

433
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Speaker 7: nice like re what is it like like a relief,

434
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 7: Like it was a nice release.

435
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then like that was like another thing too.

436
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Speaker 7: It's just like because like you know, you have some

437
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 7: people saying that it was a robbery or whatever, but

438
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 7: it's just like bro I was in Mexico and you

439
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 7: could just feel like like the crowd was like moreno.

440
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 7: The first two rounds, we're going moreno. And then it

441
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 7: was silence. It was silence in that arena. It was

442
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 7: silence in the arena. I got a few booz after

443
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 7: they raised my hand, but it wasn't like anything like

444
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 7: a real.

445
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 2: Robbery where you hear people boo.

446
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 7: Like you hear people that aren't fans of people booing,

447
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 7: and it's like this is a marine. I had five

448
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 7: people in that crowd, twenty two thousand people in that arena.

449
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 7: That's twenty nine and ninety five people going against me

450
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 7: in that arena, right, and there wasn't much booing. There

451
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 7: wasn't much booing after that.

452
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Speaker 4: It's not easy to deal with. Not easy to deal with, man,

453
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Speaker 4: And it's my understanding. You also had a knee injury

454
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,879
Speaker 4: during that fight. Did you tear your MCL did I

455
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 4: hear that correctly during the.

456
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Speaker 7: Fight A very slight tear, thank god, because I was

457
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Speaker 7: really worried about it. I was really worried about it.

458
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Speaker 7: And then I want to quick turnaround. You always want

459
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Speaker 7: to quick turn around. But just finding out that I

460
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 7: needed like what is it like two weeks of two

461
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Speaker 7: or three weeks of just.

462
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Speaker 2: What is the recovery and pt.

463
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I was pretty relieved when I saw like

464
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Speaker 7: the doctor's not come back and it wasn't bad and

465
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 7: all that stuff. Because midfight, I'm like, something's really wrong,

466
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Speaker 7: Like something's really wrong, and like stepping on it fought weird,

467
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 7: bouncing and I felt we're throwing kicks felt super weird.

468
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Speaker 7: And it's like anytime I like delivered a kick and

469
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Speaker 7: then I brought it back. When I step on the ground,

470
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 7: I could feel like a little shakiness and got me

471
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Speaker 7: like really hesitant on Like my whole game plan was

472
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Speaker 7: throwing a lot of kicks, a lot of teams and

473
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Speaker 7: just kind of keeping Brandon Raino a little bit at

474
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Speaker 7: bay and at long range, you know, and they got

475
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Speaker 7: me really hesitating right.

476
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Speaker 2: Off the bat.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Having had an MCL tear man though those are

478
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 4: not fun having one during a fight that's oppressive that

479
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Speaker 4: you were still able to get it done. I guess

480
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Speaker 4: I'm curious, how much do that pass five round or

481
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: it gets pantosia help you in preparation for this fight

482
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Speaker 4: and during the fight itself.

483
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Speaker 7: Yeah, obviously there wasn't like much preparation time for the fight,

484
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 7: and considering that I just had a five round fight.

485
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Speaker 7: We didn't do anything crazy as far as training, Like

486
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 7: normally I'll do like six seven rounds in a row.

487
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Speaker 7: I think the highest I went was four rounds in

488
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Speaker 7: a row, and like we just kind of kept it

489
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 7: really really calm and relaxed and just more of like

490
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 7: a recovery based like training camp than anything. And just

491
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Speaker 7: knowing that I could go five rounds like already kind

492
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Speaker 7: of build in. I was a little little nervous about

493
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 7: the whole Mexico City thing. It was like two thousand

494
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 7: ft isn't really much, but it's something, you know, it

495
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 7: is something, and it's like I was telling my coach,

496
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 7: I was like, I don't want to be in the

497
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 7: fourth round, realizing that I should have came out two

498
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 7: weeks earlier, week or whatever it is, and like in

499
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Speaker 7: my head I was like that the first week we

500
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Speaker 7: went out there. The first day that we went out

501
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Speaker 7: there was like that Tuesday, we were working out and.

502
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Speaker 5: I just, I honestly just forgot about the altitude.

503
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 7: I got in really late and we just had to

504
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 7: get a workout, and so I was like I did

505
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 7: like an hour and a half workout, and at the

506
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Speaker 7: very end of it, Alex was like my corner may Alex,

507
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Speaker 7: it's just like.

508
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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, he goes it seems like there's not

509
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Speaker 5: affecting you.

510
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Speaker 7: And I was like I forgot, like I forgot all

511
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Speaker 7: about it, like I didn't think about it. And then

512
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Speaker 7: once you started thinking about it, I was like, well,

513
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 7: am I tired and.

514
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: I started didn't show.

515
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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I started checking it with my body a

516
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Speaker 7: little bit, and uh yeah. Once I kind of got

517
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Speaker 7: past that, I was like, this is going to be

518
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 7: nothing like if five rounds. I live in Denver, so

519
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 7: it's really nothing to me. Anyways, you know, h.

520
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Speaker 4: One more for you. You know, I know that you know,

521
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: obviously it's possible you could fight Pantosia in the near

522
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: future again. So I guess when you look back on

523
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: that fight with him, what do you think the difference

524
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 4: was in that fight me.

525
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Speaker 7: I feel like I gain planned for a normal pantosia

526
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 7: of like him bringing chaos and being super chaotic, and

527
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 7: I feel like if he would have been like going

528
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 7: for the kill constantly, we had answers for everything. What

529
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 7: I didn't game plan for. And this is also my

530
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 7: fault for not making adjustments mid fight, is just him

531
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 7: being very hesitant and him being very what is it like,

532
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 7: not not just measured, but him just like playing playing

533
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 7: the Point game. He was playing the Point game really,

534
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 7: and I've never really seen him do that. He's always

535
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 7: kind of go for bro go for a kill type

536
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 7: of guy, and I think he knows like the cardio

537
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 7: aspect that I bring to it, and he was just like,

538
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 7: we're gonna play it safe, we're gonna get there, We're.

539
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 2: Going to control time, control time, control time.

540
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Speaker 5: And I just didn't make any adjustments on the fly.

541
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Speaker 7: That was like one thing that I wanted to show

542
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 7: off in the moreno fight is one I'm not getting

543
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 7: held down and too It's like I'm not getting taken

544
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 7: down loading right, I'm not giving up easy takedowns. And

545
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 7: I felt like I did a pretty good job at

546
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Speaker 7: one not getting held down but not giving up any

547
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Speaker 7: easy takedowns.

548
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 2: Marna went for a few body.

549
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Speaker 7: Locks and kind of just gave up on it after

550
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Speaker 7: like the first times I defended it, but I thought

551
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Speaker 7: that was.

552
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 5: Gonna be like pretty heavily.

553
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 7: His game plan was just wrestling, bodylock control, all that stuff.

554
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Speaker 6: Brandon roy baalt with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

555
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 6: So you bet on yourself, And if fans don't know

556
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 6: the history here, Brandon stepped in for an injured Amir

557
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 6: al Bosi on short notice to fight Brandon Moreno at

558
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 6: altitude over five rounds in Mexico City to get yourself

559
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 6: right back on track for a championship opportunity. And now

560
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 6: you're the fucking number one contender again. Right, Obviously you're

561
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 6: dealing with an MCL injury. But this past Saturday, right,

562
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 6: we got a couple of rank flyweights competing against each other,

563
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 6: number eight versus number seven. Mohamed Mochai have taken on

564
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Speaker 6: Alex Perez and before that fight you probably hear the

565
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 6: champion Pantosia talk about Mokayav maybe being next. So a

566
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Speaker 6: lot of us, even those of us like me calling

567
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 6: the fight, are thinking about you as this fight is

568
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 6: going on, and I'd imagine this is a pretty good

569
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 6: result for you, right that even though mokaiahv wins that

570
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 6: he doesn't finish Alex Perez, he doesn't look particularly spectacular

571
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 6: as you try to potentially get this title fight on

572
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 6: May fourth. Are you not watching this fight play out

573
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Speaker 6: and thinking like this is a pretty good result for

574
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Speaker 6: me overall?

575
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

576
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was all around happy with it because it's

577
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 7: like Makaia still gets to the hype that's put.

578
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Behind him as him winning.

579
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 7: He's an undefeated fighter, all that stuff, and it's like,

580
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 7: eventually I want that fight for sure. So it's like

581
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 7: take away that high, takeaway all that stuff, So eventually

582
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 7: I want that fight. But more importantly, it was just

583
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 7: like I just thought that wasn't impressive at all. Like

584
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 7: I wasn't too impressed by anything he did. And maybe

585
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 7: I was being biased from him a little bit because

586
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 7: I do like Alex Preslot. I thought Alex Perez one,

587
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 7: but I could see it going get away in that fight.

588
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 7: But in that situation, I just didn't think he looked

589
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 7: like a road beater or anything impressive. So I was

590
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 7: just like I said, all around, I thought it was

591
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 7: it was a good day in the office for like

592
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Speaker 7: the good potential of me getting that title show. Yeah, yeah,

593
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 7: he didn't look like he was trying to finish the fight.

594
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 7: He didn't got here doing anything too impressive. And that

595
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 7: being said is like Alex Prez, great guy, all the stuff,

596
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 7: and I'm not trying to bash anybody, but it's like

597
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 7: Alex Fresh doesn't have a current win over any UOC.

598
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Fighter right now, and it's like, yeah, the.

599
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 7: Closest thing he has to a win is fighting with

600
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Speaker 7: Gat right now in my opinion, So it's just like, right,

601
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 7: I don't know.

602
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: I just wasn't impressed itself.

603
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Speaker 6: So in terms of May fourth and the possibility of

604
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Speaker 6: you fighting in Rio de Janeiro at UFC three to

605
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 6: Zho one, I hate to put you on the spot,

606
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 6: but how realistic is that? And I'll follow it up

607
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 6: by just saying, you know, I have tweeted in the

608
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 6: past that Brandon roy Valt might be the most electric,

609
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 6: exciting fighter in MMA, and look no further than just

610
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 6: all the output essentially on one leg just ten days

611
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 6: ago in Mexico City. There's no doubt that you have

612
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 6: this style. I think to beat Aleschandre Pantosia. Do you

613
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 6: feel like the only thing that's working against you is

614
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Speaker 6: that you just fought him recently.

615
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that, And it's like, uh yeah, yeah,

616
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 7: I think it's just that I fought him recently.

617
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Speaker 5: I'm his last fight.

618
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Speaker 7: I don't really have a big name necessarily to kind

619
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Speaker 7: of like steal the show because it's like I don't

620
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 7: think that I think it Morano I would have won

621
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 7: that fight. I think there's no doubt that he was

622
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Speaker 7: getting the next title show. I think if I won

623
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 7: the fight, even though his last loss was to Alis

624
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: Shandy Pantoder his lost fact before mine was get to

625
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 7: Alshon de Pintosia. The situation changed one you have a

626
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 7: whole country back in you and stuff, and it's like

627
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 7: I don't necessarily have that star power, and that's what

628
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 7: kind of like bucks me over in the situation of

629
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 7: like do I get the immediate rematch?

630
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: Do I get this?

631
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 7: And it's like so, I guess that's what scares me.

632
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 7: But it's just like as far as the matchup and

633
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 7: all that stuff is like I know I could be

634
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 7: Aleshondi Pantosia. I know I know that I have the

635
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 7: skill set to beat that guy. I think he's an

636
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 7: amazing fighter. Don't get me wrong. I think the world

637
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 7: of him for sure. That being said is I know

638
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 7: I could win that fight, and even in those like

639
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 7: four or five weeks that I had to go train

640
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 7: for Moreno, it's like you've seen those little adjustments of.

641
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: Me not getting taken down or giving up easy takedowns.

642
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 7: It's like the solution that I had where I lost

643
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 7: the fight to al Jon Pentoza are easy fixes for me.

644
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 7: They're very easy fixes for me, and I just needed

645
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 7: to change my mindset a little bit in that fight,

646
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 7: and that I wish I would have did it then because.

647
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Speaker 2: We could have a I could be in a whole

648
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: different scene right now.

649
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Speaker 6: Well, and I do think you're selling yourself a little

650
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 6: bit short as far as the star power is concerned.

651
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 6: I thought, you maximize your microphone time in Mexico City,

652
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 6: and your style always leads the dance like we as

653
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 6: commentators can promote the shit out of anything you're doing, bro,

654
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 6: So please don't sell yourself short. I want to get

655
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: you out of here on this because AJ Cunningham is

656
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 6: a really interesting story. He made his UFC debut this

657
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 6: past weekend on short notice against Ludabit Cline. He shows

658
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 6: up at Factory X. He was broke two weeks ago.

659
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 6: A sponsor gave him some money that allowed him to

660
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 6: go to Factory X. And the one guy that he

661
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 6: had the nicest things to say about in our fighter

662
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: meeting was yourself. So what can you tell us about

663
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 6: AJ Cunningham and his future now Factory X.

664
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Speaker 7: So I was gone that whole entire week that he

665
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 7: was at. I guess he was only there for a

666
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 7: couple of days. I was gone the whole entire time.

667
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 7: So it's like I'd actually get to spend time with

668
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 7: him at the gym, but I have spent like a

669
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 7: like maybe I cut weight or I was out there

670
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 7: for a fight and.

671
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: He just bought.

672
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 7: So I was out at the PI with the fvice

673
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 7: hung out them for like a couple of days in

674
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: a row, and like just one of the nicest people

675
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 7: I've ever met.

676
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Man.

677
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 7: It was just like nothing but a pleasure to be

678
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 7: around him. It's one of those dudes that you're like,

679
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 7: this is crazy. He's a fighter, you know, Like you

680
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 7: get around these big guys and it's like a lot

681
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 7: of these guys, you know, but it's like you take

682
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 7: the fact that they're actually fighters away from him and

683
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 7: you just talk to him and you're like, dang, this

684
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 7: is like a really nice human being.

685
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: Like I can't believe he goes.

686
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: In there and hurts people, and right, this is what

687
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: he gets paid to do. So it was really cool

688
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: to see him get that call up.

689
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 7: And if he comes back to Factory X, it'd be

690
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 7: really cool to just start training with him and grow

691
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 7: with him and all that stuff, because you know that

692
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 7: kid has a lot of heart and it's like, I

693
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 7: feel like, what the thirty five division and then myself

694
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 7: because we don't have we don't have too many flylights

695
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 7: energy in Yeah, we have a killer thirty five division

696
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 7: that It's like his growth is going to be amazing

697
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: in there.

698
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 6: Yeah No, And I know he's excited to get back

699
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 6: there sooner rather than later. But Brandon Royvall could very

700
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 6: well find himself back at a championship setting as soon

701
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 6: as May fourth and rio on Instagram. You can find

702
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 6: him at b Royvall b r O y v A L.

703
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 6: My man. Great to see you, very gracious of you

704
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 6: to join us today. Wish you all the best and

705
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 6: I do hope to see you in South America. Come

706
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: the first of May, buddy, So have a good week,

707
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 6: get healthy, and hope to see us soon.

708
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.

709
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 6: All right there, he is the number one ranked UFC

710
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 6: flyweight contender Brandon Royvall and aj Counningham is a really

711
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 6: interesting story. Kenny So he lost a lutedit kleine due

712
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 6: to a front kick to the body this weekend. But

713
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: just a crazy story came off Dana White's Contender series.

714
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 6: He was forcibly injected with steroids when he was like

715
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 6: five and six years old. He was beaten like hell

716
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 6: when he was a kid. You know, at one point

717
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 6: they poured spoiled condiments on him and left him to

718
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 6: sleep in the pit outside. I mean, just the kid

719
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 6: went through hell and to see him now become a

720
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 6: UFC fighter is just so inspiring and I think emotional

721
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 6: for a lot of us, especially as parents as well.

722
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747
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Speaker 6: get to the star of the show. Let us get

748
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Speaker 6: to the Ray Longo Minute.

749
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Speaker 7: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

750
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Speaker 3: We're going to punch a hole in this foking trucks.

751
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: That's what I want with the Ray Longo Minute story.

752
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 6: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

753
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Speaker 3: My guys, how are we doing? Yeah? Kind of got

754
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: you send it in there. How are we feeling today? Guys?

755
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 6: Better now?

756
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 5: No?

757
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 6: Wow, love you buddy. How are we doing?

758
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: Man? Yeah? Good? Good? Came off a good weekend. Just

759
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 3: a couple of shout outs to get the things going.

760
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: Just a Montalvo back on track. Great win Ring a

761
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: Combat and uh we had another kid Roman, another Georgian kid,

762
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: another really nice guy win a forty five title. So

763
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: hats off to those two guys. I hope I'm not

764
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: forgetting anybody else. I think I'm good.

765
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 6: No, So I saw the photos. You were wearing a

766
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 6: UFC F into the cage when you're cornering guys a

767
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 6: ring of combat?

768
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: Is that right?

769
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: Uh?

770
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: I had the jacket on, Yeah, a jacket?

771
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I have to fight kid yeah, I have

772
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 6: to fight. So it got me thinking, really you would

773
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 6: take the Anakin Florian Podcast just sponsored a couple soccer teams,

774
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 6: and we're potentially going to get into the business of

775
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 6: sponsoring fighters, right wow. So I mean, I don't know

776
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: if you want to wear like a long Goo Wideman

777
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 6: MMA jumpsuit or an Anakin Florian podcast jumpsuit, But I

778
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 6: don't know that you need to be wearing that UFC

779
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 6: fight kit top when your corner and your guys regionally, right,

780
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 6: I mean we could outfit in some stuff. Hey, you

781
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 6: a little side wager all right?

782
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 4: When we got those sweatpants, right, they're coming out. So

783
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: one picture of me on your left cheek and a

784
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: picture of John on the right.

785
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: Yes, just stay away from the midlettos two buttcheets you

786
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: find exactly.

787
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 6: So you know you are always of a great disposition.

788
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 6: But there was obviously a time last year where you

789
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 6: had that hip replacement surgery and you were going through it,

790
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 6: and it just seems like you've come out the other

791
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 6: side in a really good way. So can you give

792
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 6: our listeners and viewers an update on that because it

793
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 6: seems like you're moving awfully well now, Raymond.

794
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, good. Thank you very much for asking. I appreciate it. Yeah,

795
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: six months in, I feel good, maybe like five percent

796
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 3: little hitch but doesn't affect me at all, but like

797
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: maybe getting in the car, I feel something that I

798
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: used to feel anyway. So but everything, Yeah, life changing.

799
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. Yeah, life changing. So thank

800
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: you very much. And Glid, I mean to everybody out there,

801
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: just stay in shape so in case you have to

802
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: go through something like this, I think you'll bounce back quick. Right,

803
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: that's it, and just do the right thing, eat right, hydrate,

804
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: get a good doctor, and I think you're good to go.

805
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: And ray is the hope or the prognosis that that

806
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 4: will eventually go away over time that it's just like

807
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 4: kind of rehab. I've been strength and all that stuff.

808
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, yeah, but I mean they didn't

809
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: really know. Like the last time I was at PETE

810
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: it was still maybe only like four months in, so

811
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: I mean they do cut your bone in half, and

812
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, I mean it's not a Sometimes when I

813
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: think about it going, I wish I could have just

814
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: did anything else but that, but uh, I just ran

815
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: it to the point where it had to be done

816
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: and look, they're doing so many today that they have

817
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: it down to science. This certain approaches to John, I

818
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: think guys are literally walking out of the hospital the

819
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: next day or two, like walking without the walker, which

820
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 3: is wow. Crazy. But I chose to do the more

821
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: common approach, the posterior approaches, as opposed to the antery approach,

822
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: and I just went with this one. I don't want

823
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: no nerves involved. Just separate the muscle, get in there,

824
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: get out, and maybe a little extra reheab. But I

825
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: think it's all going to pay off in the end.

826
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: But thank you, thank you very much for it is

827
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: life changing. It's great to walk through an airport. You

828
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: take walking for granted, you take so much things for granted.

829
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: And you know, my mindset was almost you know, I

830
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 3: probably listened to David Coggan's too much, like so it's pain,

831
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: I'll just go through it. But it was. I don't

832
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: know what I'm messed up, but I'm glad people told

833
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: me into doing it and I got it.

834
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: Oh had to be done. I mean I remember, for

835
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 6: a lot of us, as your dear friends, the visuals

836
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 6: of seeing you sort of get helped down the octagon stairs. Yes, suck, Yeah,

837
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 6: so thankfully those are a thing of the past. But yeah,

838
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 6: modern medicine is crazy, right. I had a spiral fracture

839
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: of my femur in nineteen eighty two. Me and my

840
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 6: twin brother thought we would move a TV. It fell

841
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 6: off the stand. I go into shock immediately, and in

842
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty two I'm in traction for eight weeks taking

843
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 6: a shit in a bedpan. Right, Yeah, you have a

844
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 6: spiral fracture of your femur. Now as like an eight

845
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: year old boy. They have you walking on it the

846
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 6: next day, even after incredit with titanium innutes. So obviously

847
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 6: things have changed a lot credit compared to those of

848
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 6: us born in the nineteen seventies. Al right, a lot

849
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: to get to with Ray. So I did my first

850
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 6: show with the ufc Apex in about two years, and

851
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 6: I can just say, as a commentator, when I have

852
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 6: the cans on, I'm not really thinking about much. So

853
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: when a fight ends, I mean, I'm still veins popping

854
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 6: out of the neck. It doesn't phaze me, right, But

855
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 6: there are times when either of these fights begin right

856
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 6: at the outset of a fighter, when the coaches are

857
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: particularly quiet, where you can hear a fucking and I'm

858
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 6: just curious Ray what your experience is like coaching in

859
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 6: that venue, because it's just different. Man, it's just different.

860
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think for the coaches, and I think they'll agree,

861
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: it's like coaching during the spar incision at your gym,

862
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You have maybe twenty thirty

863
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: guys around this obviously a little more, but you know,

864
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: you could hear a pin drop, So I'm kinda I

865
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: think I'm used to it. You're definitely way more engaged

866
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: with the athlete because you could hear everything you're saying,

867
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: and I have absolutely no problem with it. You know,

868
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: and that place you can hear what the other corner

869
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: is saying. That's always funny. Well here, So.

870
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 6: Part of the reason I bring it up. And Kenny,

871
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: I do want to get your thoughts on this, even

872
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 6: if you haven't been in this atmosphere specifically. But I

873
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 6: thought Amen Zahabby did enough to beat Job at Basharat.

874
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: He won by unanimous decision twenty nine to twenty eight

875
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 6: times three, and I think our call is reflective of

876
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 6: that sentiment. I thought he had the more impactful strikes

877
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 6: and he won the fight, right, but it was somehow

878
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 6: brought up during the broadcast that the coaches can really

879
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 6: lean into a left hook landing and maybe have some

880
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 6: sort of sway on the judges. And I do think

881
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,959
Speaker 6: Farasa Hobby, perhaps in a calculated way, did a really

882
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 6: nice job of letting the world fucking know every time

883
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 6: his younger brother landed a strike. And I do think

884
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: there is something to that, even if I believe the

885
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 6: right guy won the fight. Kim flow any thoughts.

886
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: On it, one hundred percent, listen, I think it plays

887
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 4: a factor, especially if it's a punch that kind of skims,

888
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: or even if it misses and you go, oh great job,

889
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: you know, even those little things, because let's face it,

890
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: you know, the judges aren't always at the best angle

891
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: on the side of the octagon. So if they hear

892
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 4: you go, oh great job, you know they'll they'll just conceited.

893
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 8: Gol.

894
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: I guess he must have landed that one. He's cheering

895
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: on his fighter, right, I mean so, I think it's

896
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 4: an interesting tactic, and it's one that obviously plays itself

897
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: much better in a venue like the Apex than say

898
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 4: it you know t mobile right.

899
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you. And conversely, if you're struggling with

900
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: your fight and the judges know that too, So you

901
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: got to be very very careful in that environment because

902
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: it goes both ways, you know what I mean. So

903
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: that part I definitely don't like about it. But I listen,

904
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 3: you know, I had to fights in Atlantic City, so

905
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: that it was an early call, right John, So I

906
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: kind of was backtrack and that fight I did look at.

907
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: But Zahabi one thing he did do like when he

908
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: made basharat miss. I mean he came back with four

909
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: or five good punches. He did a fantastic job in

910
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: that fight. Look either way, one guy was going to

911
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: be very pissed off. I think it's that type of fight.

912
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: But a hobby definitely, I think you said the impact

913
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: strike is he would just get back enough and he

914
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: would fire back with combos where the other guy was

915
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: was going forward. He was making a fight. But you know,

916
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: either way, but a Hobby did a great job. It

917
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 3: was a good fight and I think the right guy wanted.

918
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: But it was one of those fights you knew somebody

919
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: was going to be pissed off. And yeah, I mean

920
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: as a coach, that's an old you know tactic. You

921
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 3: just start screaming at anything just to trite influence the judges.

922
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 3: But then when your guy's not doing good and you're like, dude,

923
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: come on, man, we got to do more, you're basically

924
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: telling the judges you think your guys losing it at

925
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: that part sucks. I don't like it because you want

926
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: to motivate your guy, even if that's not even what

927
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: you feel.

928
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 9: Sometimes, right, that is an amazing point about coming down

929
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 9: too hard on your fighter in that type of atmosphere,

930
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 9: It is fucking insane that these judges don't have noise

931
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 9: canceled though.

932
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 6: To begin with right, I mean, don't even get us started.

933
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 6: There's no reason that I like more than open scoring. Yeah,

934
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 6: we can talk about open scoring, time permitting, but we

935
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: have too many things to get into, so I can't

936
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 6: open that can. And Kenny, I just have to say

937
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 6: it is a little a little bit nostalgic for me.

938
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 6: If you don't know, Faras a hobby was the chief

939
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 6: corner of Kenny Florian towards the end of his career,

940
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 6: So for me seeing far Us coaching is a little

941
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 6: bit nostalgic to me. But Ken Fel, how about your

942
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 6: former fucking training partner, Amon's a hobby? Four straight wins

943
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 6: in the UFC.

944
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: Right now, dude, it was great to see because you

945
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 4: Aiman was one of the guys that I would bring

946
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: out to Boston to help me train and just a

947
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: great soldier man. He was down for whatever whenever, great

948
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 4: training partner, great kid, great human being. And to see

949
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: him do that well against a very tough opponent was

950
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: awesome because the first round wasn't going great and the

951
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 4: fact that he was able to make those adjustments and

952
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: in my opinion, really win that fight. And when those

953
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: last two rounds I think shows a level of great

954
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 4: and intelligence that is going to serve him well moving forward.

955
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: So getting that momentum, now, that's got a great man.

956
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: It's a hobby both for us and Aiman are two

957
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: great people that I really enjoy being.

958
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 6: Grit is a good word, all right, Ray, A lot

959
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: of things we want to get to with you today.

960
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 6: I wouldn't mind starting with Umar and rmago Metov. He

961
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 6: is still undefeated, but he did suffer a flash knockout

962
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 6: early in this fight against the newcomer Besat Almacan, and

963
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 6: I think Almacon is going to be heard from. But

964
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 6: there are just a lot of public opinions about Umar

965
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 6: and let me just start by saying, he is such

966
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: an elite human being, one of my favorite humans on

967
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 6: the roster. His ability to learn and communicate in English

968
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 6: and say exactly what's on his mind and his second

969
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 6: or third language is so impressive. I do think he

970
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 6: has a great chance to be a future world champion,

971
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 6: but there are some people who aren't necessarily sold. I

972
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 6: like that he took on this little known kid making

973
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 6: his UFC debut, but maybe not the dominant Umar and

974
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 6: Normagometov effort that a lot of people expected, even though

975
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 6: one of the scorecards said thirty to twenty five. So

976
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 6: you've spent a lot of time studying the elite bandam

977
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 6: weights the world in your mind. What are your thoughts

978
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 6: on umar and or Magamettav and how he stacks up.

979
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean, first off, exactly what you said.

980
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: The way they articulate themselves is something I think because

981
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: it's their second language, it just comes across as simple

982
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: but so intelligent and so like common sense oriented that

983
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: it's it's a pleasure to listen to either, because I

984
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: always love listening to Kabeb. But I always thought you

985
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: got just a just a man. Why couldn't I think

986
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 3: of that. It's just a nice, honest approach. I mean

987
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: the fight, I mean, look, he got clipped. I mean

988
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: there was you know, he went back to the wrestling.

989
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: My problem is, like you know, and I hate that.

990
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to throw us back to like Pumie,

991
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: but everybody like they bitch about his wrestling, But as

992
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: soon as this kid got clipped, he went to his wrestling,

993
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: which he should do. That's his that's his strength. But

994
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: we're not going to criticize the guy for that. You know,

995
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: I think Michael Johnson clipped Kabeb that time, but you know,

996
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: all right, everybody gets clipped. So I think it was

997
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: a great fight for Umar and magamet Off. I think

998
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: he's right where he wants to be. We got up

999
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: the competition a little bit. But I think, who do

1000
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: you call Corey santeg And I think that would be

1001
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: a great challenge for him and we'd have to see

1002
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: how he does in like a five round fight, which

1003
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that would one hundred percent be And that's it. Yeah,

1004
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: I mean, he got caught, but he made the adjustments

1005
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: and he did what he had to do to win.

1006
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 3: So I like watching him fight, and I think he,

1007
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: like you said, I think if he said he had

1008
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: problems before that camp, he's the type of guy I

1009
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: are one hundred percent believe because everybody has problems. You know,

1010
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: that's not an uncommon thing to you know. I get

1011
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 3: a guy two weeks away and he tweaks his wrist.

1012
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: It's just so upsetting. So anything could happen leading up

1013
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: to a fight, And when a guy is able to

1014
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: articulate like that, I buy it. So I think it

1015
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 3: was a great win for him.

1016
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: Kenny, one of the biggest challenges as an elite MMA

1017
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 6: athlete is staying healthy, right, and then once you get there,

1018
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 6: like Sean O'Malley, the one question I have is can

1019
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 6: his durability last with two or three title defenses in

1020
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: a calendar year. I don't think Sean amalley will ever

1021
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 6: defend the title three times in a year. But Ken Fla,

1022
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 6: what are your thoughts on on Umar and Armago metof

1023
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: what we saw this weekend and a potential main event

1024
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 6: now moving forward against Corey san Haagen or somebody else.

1025
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, staying healthy is very difficult in mixed martial arts,

1026
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: right that there's an element where you need to train

1027
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 4: hard to prepare for that fight. But yeah, no, listen,

1028
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: I thought Nirmaga Madoff looked great. I think he did

1029
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 4: it the Nirmalga met Off way, which was the safest

1030
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 4: path to victory here. First of all, it showed that

1031
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: he knows how to just and deal with a little

1032
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: bit of adversity. There he faced a very tough striker.

1033
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: You know, for those that didn't do their homework and

1034
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: didn't follow this fighter from Kazakhstan, the kids a killer.

1035
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: I mean, he's extremely dangerous. So he found a way

1036
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: to win, and his kicking game looked great, as always thought.

1037
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 4: He did a great job of being the longer, larger

1038
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: man when they were on the feet, and then he

1039
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 4: just dominated on the floor man, just continue to outposition

1040
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: them and just like we talked about on the last podcast,

1041
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: he ended up drowning them.

1042
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1043
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: It's like first round does okay, second round, starting to

1044
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 4: pull away from third round, you're just like, please get

1045
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: the hell off of me, and just outpositioned them and

1046
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: really didn't really do it with submissions, but he did

1047
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: it with this striking, and that at the end of

1048
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: the day is what you should do. You get better

1049
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: positioned on someone. You got to integrate your strikes, and

1050
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 4: that many times is a way more powerful indicator of

1051
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: you winning those rounds than it is sometimes with these

1052
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: judges where you get them in a bunch of submissions.

1053
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's more impressive in my opinion, when you

1054
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: dominate with positioning and striking. And that's what the Nirmaga

1055
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 4: Medoffs do better than anyone of the game, them and

1056
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: their whole camp. They have this system, man, and it works.

1057
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 4: You get these great wrestlers, you get better position, then

1058
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: you integrate the striking. Rinse Wash repeats, Yeah.

1059
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: Hey, go ahead, yeah, John, I mean I got interrupt.

1060
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 3: You just popped into my head. I want to also

1061
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 3: shout out young Marcus from the Sarah Jiu Jitsu Academy

1062
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 3: had the win back and forth, Kenny, you would have

1063
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: loved it. Jiu jitsu. A lot of you know, a

1064
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 3: couple of mistakes here and there, but young Marcus is

1065
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: a nice kid and I just want to give him

1066
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: a shadow. I forgot all about that talking. I'm it

1067
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: was a long week. It was a long weekend. But

1068
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: young Marcus, everybody's with you, buddy, great great win for him.

1069
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: He had to come back deal with adversity was good night.

1070
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: Apologize for the interruption, but that thought would have left

1071
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 3: my head in the two seconds if I don't jump

1072
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: in there.

1073
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 6: Now went to the star of the show.

1074
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: Never forget that, okay, And I got a good Morob story.

1075
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 6: For you, all right, Well take can you table the

1076
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 6: Morob story for one second so I could just say,

1077
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 6: let's fucking go, let's go, let's go behind you, Marcus

1078
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 6: so Umarnin Mango Matov had a main event schedule with

1079
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: Corey Sandhagen. He had to pull out due to injury.

1080
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: Corey Sandhagen is relatively warm to making that fight again

1081
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: if he is not next to challenge for the world title.

1082
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 6: So it's a big time in the bantamweight division. We'll

1083
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 6: get raised thoughts on UFC two ninety nine and some

1084
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 6: of the bandamweight ramifications later. But you've got a great

1085
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 6: Morob story right now.

1086
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: So the floor is yours. You know. So yesterday a guy,

1087
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: this guy's name is Boris. I want to shout out

1088
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: to Boris. Boris was the guy that brought Morabo. But

1089
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: Morob lived with him and you all heard the story before,

1090
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: but it was interesting talking to him that it's got

1091
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: to be a one in like twenty million chance. I

1092
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 3: even got to meet Morob at the gym because the

1093
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: story like he told like I was trained, I was

1094
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: with Widman. Wideman was I think preparing for Anderson Silva.

1095
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: We were at Henzo Gracie Academy and he said he

1096
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: was there with Morob and this other guy, David, and

1097
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: they were supposed to be there the following week, but

1098
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: the guy changed his mind said meet me there this week.

1099
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: And I was walking out the door. We were done,

1100
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: and David, another one of the Georgian guys, tells Boris,

1101
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: that's the trainer of Eddie Gordon who fought at the

1102
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 3: Ring of Combey, said, man, I like to say hello

1103
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: to him, and I was. I was literally leaving out

1104
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: the door and they caught me at that's what he's saying.

1105
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: I don't I have no I remember meeting him, but

1106
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 3: not like when it was. But he said it was

1107
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: just a chance thing that the guy just came over

1108
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 3: and said, uh, you know, you remember me, and I said, oh, yeah,

1109
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: of course. And then you know, I said, you guys

1110
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: live in the city. He goes, no, we live in

1111
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: Garden City. I just opened up the school in Garden

1112
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: City was like just weird. The way he told the

1113
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: story was like that could have never happened, you know

1114
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: what I mean when I look back on it, So

1115
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: shout out to Boris. He got those guys over here.

1116
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: He's a great guy. And uh, it just it just

1117
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: got me yesterday like that, like the way he said

1118
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: you were you were leaving like you know, we weren't

1119
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 3: even going to say alone, and the guy said, no,

1120
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: I really like to say hello. And the rest is history,

1121
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: My man.

1122
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 6: Don't you think would have happened if thatsance meeting had

1123
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 6: not happened? That Al Jamaine Sterling and Rob dwallasch Willy

1124
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 6: would never have connected and you would have never connected

1125
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 6: with him. Is that what you're telling us?

1126
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Never, never would have connected.

1127
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: All right.

1128
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 6: You know what else is crazy?

1129
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Baby?

1130
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: How about Venisius Olivera's knockout? Oh my, Bernardo Sopie can

1131
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 6: flow if you don't know, a little flying switch knee,

1132
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 6: while his opponent, however tough, was sort of retreating towards

1133
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 6: the fence. That might be the knockout of the year.

1134
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 6: Can flow. It's March fourth, But how about fucking that shit?

1135
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: Nasty nasty, nasty, and it's crazy because if you saw

1136
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: the first round, you're like, well, yeah, like so Pie one, right,

1137
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean he's the guy who won. But if you didn't,

1138
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: you know, then you see round two started to shift

1139
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: over and once he got that momentum and once he

1140
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: started to start winning that fight, he never allowed so

1141
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: Pie back into the fight. And dude, finishing a fight

1142
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 4: in that manner. I mean, there's not a whole lot

1143
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 4: of knockouts that are better than a flying knee and

1144
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: the way that he hit it, I mean he landed

1145
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: all of that, all of that just a nasty, nasty

1146
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: knockout and it's one of those Also that was concerning

1147
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 4: because I don't know if Sappie is going to be

1148
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 4: the same after that one. Dude. I mean, that was

1149
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 4: a net for a young fighter to take a shot

1150
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 4: like that, right, dude, I mean on a physical level,

1151
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: on a spiritual level, like you know, that's where you

1152
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 4: start to question, do I want to be in here anymore?

1153
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 4: Because that was about as nasty as a ko that

1154
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 4: you will see, dude, just fantastic, unbelievable.

1155
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kenny, what you said, I mean, Steve Lee

1156
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 3: goes to me did you see the knockout? I go

1157
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 3: what and what not? Guy goes, what do you talk about?

1158
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy? It was nuts, and I had to go

1159
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: back and look at the fight. So I just go back,

1160
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 3: I pick up, pick it up. In the third round,

1161
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: I never saw the first two week Yeah, yeah, so

1162
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm going west because he said it was a good fight.

1163
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 3: It was, you know, starting to shift, and I'm like,

1164
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: what I saw in the third round was not looking

1165
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: good for the other guy. So then I sort of

1166
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: not gonna go holy crap, man, that was crazy. But

1167
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: I missed the first two rounds, so.

1168
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean stiff as a board, sort of arms

1169
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 6: crouched like underneath him. Yeah, some scary visuals. And I

1170
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 6: watched a lot of film on this Bernardo Sopi leading

1171
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: up to this fight. I loved this matchup Right and

1172
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 6: Vnetius Oliver, by the way, getting a hundred thousand dollars

1173
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: in bonus money, Fight of the Night and Performance of

1174
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 6: the Night with Soapi. I'm watching this film of him

1175
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 6: when he's nineteen. Right made his pro debut when he

1176
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 6: was fifteen, had an amateur fight and his pro debut

1177
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 6: on the same night. Kam Zat Chimaya was in his

1178
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: corner actually for his previous last fight, a win last December.

1179
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 6: But I just was really impressed with this young kid.

1180
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 6: I was impressed with Venisius as well, But I do

1181
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 6: really feel for Bernardo's sapie can flow to your point, right,

1182
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 6: just absorbing this type of damage and then his coach

1183
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 6: being like, come on, dude, like stay in it, Like

1184
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: I know you got the heart and the determination to

1185
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 6: stay in the fight, and he did. But that's a

1186
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 6: really concussive blow, it really is.

1187
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 4: And listen, you know, Ray, I would go back and

1188
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: watch it because this kid's actually a good fighter. He's

1189
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 4: got some serious skills. And when we when he was

1190
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: a hammer man, he was looking great.

1191
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

1192
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: I think there was a certain shift that happened. He

1193
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 4: got hurt, he got a little tired, he started to

1194
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: doubt himself, and that's where that youth and inexperience may

1195
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: have taken over. I don't think it was necessarily a

1196
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: lack of heart and may have been that. I don't

1197
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 4: want to accuse him of that. But once that shift happened,

1198
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 4: it was like two different fights, two different fighters, just

1199
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: wild stuff. So if he can come back from that

1200
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 4: I do think he could be a very good fighter,

1201
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: but certainly looked outsized by oli of Era in that

1202
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 4: fight too. Oliver just looked massive for that.

1203
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 3: Way, and I think that's what made the knee worse.

1204
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: He had the long, lanky legs and thud. It just

1205
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: probably added an extra one hundred pounds of force, you

1206
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean? It was bad, but I am

1207
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: going to go back and look at it because I

1208
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: heard good things. But what I saw it in the

1209
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: third round, and even know what anybody was talking about,

1210
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 3: I go, this guy looks like he's clearly losing the fight.

1211
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 3: But I will go back and look because I heard

1212
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 3: the kids an outstanding fighter.

1213
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 6: And Vanisi's OLIVERA is an outstanding fighter and finisher, and

1214
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 6: I think he showed you a lot of heart to

1215
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 6: come back from some compromising moments in that fight. What

1216
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 6: a fight that was, and that's going to put a

1217
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 6: bow on UFC Fight night Rosenstrike versus Gazive. I would

1218
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 6: like to spend a remaining time with Raymond Peter Longo

1219
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 6: on UFC two ninety nine if I could, a lot

1220
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 6: of bandon weights in action, including Sean O'Malley versus Marlon

1221
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 6: cheto Vera. O'Malley inching up as far as the betting

1222
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 6: price is concerned. Not quite a three to one favorite,

1223
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 6: but he is a decided favorite this weekend against Marlon

1224
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: Cheeto Vera. What are your thoughts on the Bandon White

1225
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 6: title fight?

1226
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, I mean I think the uh, I mean, look,

1227
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: O'Malley's a show up shoot, a great footwork. Cheetos sometimes

1228
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 3: starts a little slow but finishes strong. The five rounds

1229
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: will definitely play into this fight. If Cheeto's gonna get him,

1230
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: it's probably going to get him towards the end. But uh,

1231
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 3: we'll see how Uh this is o'mellley's first five round fight, right.

1232
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 6: Well, it's his first title defense. Yeah, so he was

1233
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 6: scheduled for five against your guy. Didn't need five? Didn't

1234
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 6: need five?

1235
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, we'll go with it.

1236
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 6: Fucking around, fucking around.

1237
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: When you're on top, Kenny, everybody loves you and you're not.

1238
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: That is a perfect example. But it's a crawl. Yeah,

1239
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: you gotta gotta have muddy evens. But uh so he did.

1240
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 3: Uh So I think you know, I'm gonna say O'Malley

1241
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: probably gets the job done, but I'm kind of curious

1242
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: to see the durability and if Cheeto comes in as

1243
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: the Cheeto we know because he's he was off. I

1244
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 3: thought in the Sandaga fight was that he was a

1245
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 3: little was starting slow and he never really got going.

1246
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: But uh, if Cheeto could start chopping his legs right

1247
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: from the beginning and putting some pressure on him making

1248
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 3: them work, I think he could set up for a

1249
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 3: victory in the later rounds.

1250
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: You know what moves betting line when people like al

1251
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 6: Jamayin and Sterling say things like the only thing I'm

1252
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: concerned about is I heard that I'm hearing through the

1253
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: grape vine that Cheeto didn't really have a great camp. Oh,

1254
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 6: I got a lot of guys that have trained with Cheeto.

1255
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 6: Sterling divulge. Where am I reading this? By the way, Cody,

1256
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 6: if you could get me the credit. I don't know

1257
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 6: how true that is. I'd imagine it's Aljo's podcast, but

1258
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: I want the weekly scraps, all right. So with that said,

1259
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 6: I'm leaning towards O'Malley to get it done. I'm going

1260
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 6: to say I don't think he finished whatever, all right.

1261
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, so Aljo suggestive of the fact that maybe

1262
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 6: Cheto didn't have a great camp. That is the type

1263
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 6: of thing that legitimately could move a betting line. But

1264
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: we'll see what happens. You know, I think he's going

1265
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 6: to have to separate cheeto from consciousness if he's going

1266
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 6: to get that job done. Long game might be might

1267
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 6: be another thing also on tap in your division, pyodr

1268
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 6: Yan taking on Song You Dong and the bandam weight division, Right,

1269
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 6: I mean, isn't it isn't amazing that pyodr Yan with

1270
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 6: his skills is staring at four straight losses if he

1271
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 6: loses to Song You Don't.

1272
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing. And I'll tell you what's

1273
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: even more amazing. It's almost like the story I told

1274
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: you one in twenty million. He made that decision and

1275
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: the Aljoe in the head and his life was never

1276
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: the same. Yeah, you know, one shot he was on

1277
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: his way. It's just you gotta you gotta stay true

1278
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: to yourself and just do the right thing. I guess.

1279
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: But that uh, yeah, the fact that he's looking at

1280
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 3: four four in a row is for a guy that

1281
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 3: was coming up that was really unstoppable, is amazing. Yeah,

1282
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: So I think I think Young gets the job done, though, Kenny.

1283
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you know that illegal need. It feels

1284
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: like it was eight years ago. It's easy to forget

1285
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: about things like that. And I don't know, maybe for

1286
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: me just because the sport moves so fast. But that's crazy,

1287
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: you're you're I mean, I think it's insane.

1288
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: One guy's life was changed for the better, room one

1289
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: guy's life was just changed for the worst. So, uh,

1290
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: I guess the guards have spoken.

1291
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 6: You know, indeed, that really is interesting.

1292
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: Well, we are we by pissing the heavyweight fight.

1293
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 6: No, you can talk about the heavyweights at the Apex,

1294
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 6: of course.

1295
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, how was it being there? I mean, you

1296
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: were you We're in an environment where everybody could hear everything.

1297
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: That guy looked like you just I mean, what the

1298
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: hell was I looking at?

1299
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 6: Well? I mean I could compare some of my visuals

1300
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 6: during my strength of conditioning workouts to Shamil Gavie mouth open.

1301
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 6: I don't even think he needs a new mouthpiece. I

1302
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 6: just think he needs to get on a versa climber

1303
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: or something. But no, I mean I really enjoyed, I

1304
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 6: really enjoy getting to know Shamil Gazevee and we do

1305
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 6: in our fighter meetings, right and I'm in my myself.

1306
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 6: That's not gonna work, sorry, Cody. So I'm doing my

1307
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 6: fighter meeting. I just went to the three wide shop.

1308
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 6: But I'm doing my fighter meeting with Gazebe And he

1309
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 6: sees this studio and he sees Max Holloway and Kabeeb,

1310
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 6: and so the first thing he says in our fighter meeting,

1311
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 6: He's like, when am I going to get my picture

1312
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 6: on the wall?

1313
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 4: You know?

1314
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 6: So I love this guy right away. But yeah, it

1315
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 6: didn't have much much in him necessarily, But no, I

1316
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 6: don't know. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure people hear a

1317
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 6: lot of our commentary. It's a weird setting in which

1318
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 6: to be callin fights.

1319
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: Well, sure, like it was interesting. I think we got

1320
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: to give god It some credit. No, I mean, yeah,

1321
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: something was wrong, which I agree with one hundred percent,

1322
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 3: and he corrected, and you know he's there to make

1323
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: every you know, to make sure everything's fair and protect

1324
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: the fight. I thought he did a great job with that,

1325
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: you know. But uh, yeah, weird. We'd never seen that before, right,

1326
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: you know, you're demanding like an interpreter. Yeah, I mean

1327
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: body language. I think anybody could tell watching the TV that, Yeah,

1328
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 3: the guy definitely didn't want to be there, Like I

1329
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: just wasn't sure if he couldn't see, or he said

1330
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: the guy's gyp was so fast he couldn't see. You know,

1331
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: two different.

1332
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't necessarily catching an early flight. I

1333
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 6: was on a red eye, but I didn't need to

1334
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 6: necessarily another five minutes. I was good after the first night.

1335
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 6: By the way, it was so indy in Las Vegas

1336
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 6: that a lot of people had their flights canceled. Daniel

1337
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: Cormier ended up driving home, actually the seven hours to

1338
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 6: northern California.

1339
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

1340
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 6: But I was staying at the brand new Durango, which

1341
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 6: is just an unbelievable establishment. One of the doors in

1342
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 6: the main lobby shattered from the wind, and that's a

1343
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 6: brand new building, so which just gives you some idea

1344
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 6: of just how windy it was in Las Vegas. Sorry,

1345
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 6: one final thing for you, Raymond on UFC two ninety nine,

1346
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 6: if I could so, Ben was Antony got your guy

1347
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 6: Matt Fravola. He incidentally also didn't need the full time.

1348
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 6: If we're really digging in, he was also able to

1349
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 6: finish one of your guys.

1350
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: Let's dig in.

1351
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 6: I'm just messing around South Provola, The Bulldoze, one of

1352
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: my favorite people listens and watches the Anakin Florian podcast.

1353
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 6: Guy probably fucking hates me. Now, I love it for Bolas.

1354
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 6: But you and I, Raymond, both knew the extent to

1355
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 6: which Ben was Antony was a problem back then, and

1356
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 6: now we're seeing money continuously pour in on him against

1357
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 6: Austin Pourier this weekend. Right now, Dustin Pourier is the

1358
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 6: plus one eighty underdog against Benstony. Can't tell you where

1359
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 6: it's gonna close, but please give us everything you can.

1360
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 6: Having prepared for Ben was Antony on how you think

1361
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 6: this co main event will go.

1362
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, Dustin better of putting a real serious camp

1363
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: because this guy is coming guns blazing, and you know,

1364
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: look it seems like the timing is right. This guy's

1365
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 3: coming up. Dustin's been there, done that to take on

1366
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: a guy like this. I give Dustin credit, and I

1367
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 3: don't see the upside of this fight for him except

1368
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: the paycheck. So we'll see how it plays out. But

1369
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a really, really tough

1370
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: challenge for Dustin because I think it's gonna be one

1371
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: of those grinding fights that normally I think he's always

1372
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: up for I just don't know if he's still up

1373
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: for it. He's definitely the more skillful of the of

1374
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 3: the two, but you know, we've seen it. We're heart

1375
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 3: and desire and pressure just can eliminate that. So I

1376
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: think they got it right. I think, you know, he's

1377
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: coming off of that knockout with gay Chee. Yep, everything's

1378
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: leaning not in his favor.

1379
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 6: I think, yeah, Well, don't discount the skin fade in

1380
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: all of this, because even though I've had this weird

1381
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 6: obsession shave in my head since I was like twelve

1382
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 6: years old, all you guys who throw out your hair

1383
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: and go to Turkey for hair transplants, I've been trying

1384
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 6: to get dustin Poorier.

1385
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: I'm going, oh.

1386
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 6: Gosh, I've been trying to I'm a little underslapt pimple.

1387
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 6: I've been trying to get dustin Poier to go back

1388
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 6: to the skin fade, you know, since we were in

1389
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 6: like Hidalgo, Texas in twenty sixteen. Not that I don't

1390
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 6: think he looks good with like the boys regular haircut

1391
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 6: right or whatever the Drew Dober with all the gel

1392
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 6: and stuff, but skin fade dustin Poorier is a different animal,

1393
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 6: and he has brought the skin fad o for this training.

1394
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 3: Kiss you.

1395
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 6: I don't think that can be lost in all this.

1396
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 3: That's huge.

1397
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 6: Hey, ray we appreciate you tweaking your schedule a little bit,

1398
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 6: would you if you don't know?

1399
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 3: Normally?

1400
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 6: Raymond joins us at about eleven thirty am Eastern, we

1401
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 6: went like twelve forty five pm today. How does that

1402
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 6: affect your schedule? Be honest with us.

1403
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Why we're making this a definite?

1404
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 6: No? No, No, I'm just curious.

1405
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 3: No, I'm good either way. I try to good either way,

1406
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 3: planning my Monday's around you guys.

1407
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 6: You're amazing. Well, it'll probably be closer to the AM

1408
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 6: slot next week when we recap UFC two ninety nine,

1409
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 6: but I will leave you with this. How are you

1410
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 6: liking the new setup? Was it easy? I mean the

1411
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 6: whole goal is that you're not messing with headgear and

1412
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 6: things that you can just get in there and it

1413
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 6: should get easier every week. So how was it today?

1414
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: Good? Yeah? Really good?

1415
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1416
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 6: You sound great. You look great.

1417
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I look great, but I hopefully

1418
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: sound good.

1419
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 6: You sound amazing, Tanning.

1420
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: Now, I mean you got white eath your tanning white.

1421
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 3: I get Venia's get back in the sun.

1422
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 6: My teeth aren't that white there, certainly not that straight.

1423
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 6: But no, I mean I live in South Florida and

1424
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 6: I have a naturally dark complexion. I don't know what

1425
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 6: Ken Flier has to say about darker than you look.

1426
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 3: I look white as a ghost. It's got to be

1427
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 3: the lighting.

1428
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 6: No, well, Petrie makes you look black. So but you

1429
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 6: do sound and look great, and we appreciate the commitment

1430
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 6: to the show. I know there's a segment of our

1431
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 6: viewership that's upset that you're not in a toilet stall

1432
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 6: or having technical issues. But I am not among those listeners.

1433
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 3: So I think John, I see stand up in the

1434
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: horizon for you. After today, you will he was on.

1435
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 4: Fight he was, he was, Yeah, I'm trying to be

1436
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 4: a little spice. It's like, yeah, perfect, Yeah.

1437
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 6: I'm actually trying to be a rapper. Next, I've been writing.

1438
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 6: I've been writing a track called One More Sleep, but

1439
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 6: we might have to pivot and call it Greatest of

1440
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 6: All Time. I'm only going to have one verse too.

1441
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 6: I'm not the star rapper in this track whatsoever. I'm

1442
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 6: only going to have one verse. But Leona Lewis has

1443
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: a song called One More Sleep Wow, And so I

1444
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 6: just you know, I don't know, I don't want to.

1445
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 6: I got to tread lightly with Leona Lewis. I'm that's all.

1446
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 6: But you're saying if I if I open up for

1447
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 6: somebody and do stand up comedy, you'd come and you'd

1448
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 6: come and support that in the show.

1449
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 3: I'd come and ship at you God, But that's supportive,

1450
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: like supportive heckling, you know, part of the show.

1451
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm here to be roasted, all right, Raymond. Well,

1452
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 6: if you don't have anything else, I would suggest to

1453
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 6: you that you have a great day in a better

1454
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 6: evening and we'll talk to you next Monday to recap

1455
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 6: UFC two ninety nine.

1456
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: My guys, take it easy, guys.

1457
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 6: Thank you buddy. The ray Long go minute every week

1458
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 6: here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. Yeah, we tweaked the

1459
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 6: schedule a little bit, had a couple of fighters joining us.

1460
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 6: But when I hear that ray sort of revolves his

1461
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 6: Monday around us, that doesn't sit great with me. So

1462
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 6: we'll try to get Raymond back to his regular time

1463
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 6: slot next week. Raise the band all right now with us?

1464
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 6: A man? I am absolutely thrilled to get the chance

1465
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 6: to talk to one of the best middleweights in the world,

1466
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 6: the PFL Belatur super belt winner, the Belatoor Middleweight world champion,

1467
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 6: one of American Top Team's finest. Johnny Evelyn is with us. Johnny,

1468
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 6: appreciate your time today, sir. How are we doing, Yeah,

1469
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 6: no problem, bro doing well.

1470
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 8: Just boxed and wrestled and you know, just going about

1471
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 8: my day and you know, and enjoying the.

1472
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 6: Plin, enjoying the fruits of the labor. Are those prescription glasses?

1473
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 6: I like your glasses, Yes, sir, they sure are.

1474
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 8: I ran out of contacts a while back, so I

1475
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 8: just been supporting these glasses every ever since, you know,

1476
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 8: And I think I need to go back to the

1477
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 8: eye doctor and get some more contacts. And I need

1478
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 8: another pair of lenses like this, you know, some a

1479
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 8: little different.

1480
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 6: I think, Well, it's good to see you in any capacity.

1481
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 6: I do want to go backwards before we spin it forward,

1482
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 6: if I could so. Twenty fifteen, after a decorated, if

1483
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 6: injury played career wrestling for the University of Missouri, moved

1484
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 6: to Florida. You're working at a paving company, coaching wrestling

1485
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 6: on the side. And forget my ignorance, But to what

1486
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 6: extent is MMA and MMA fighting on your radar at

1487
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 6: that point in time in your life.

1488
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 8: Literally nothing I was like looking to do. I was

1489
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 8: more so I just knew what MMA was. My brother

1490
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 8: had done it as an amateur when I was growing up,

1491
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 8: and he ended up, you know, getting a normal job.

1492
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 8: I went on to wrestling college and then I moved

1493
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 8: down to Florida for a job, and you know, I

1494
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 8: ended up kind of dumbled into att nothing nothing like

1495
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 8: nothing that I personally like seek to do, if that

1496
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 8: makes any sense. I more so just made connections through

1497
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 8: the restling world by meeting Steve Manco.

1498
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 6: All right, so you meet Steve Maco, and i'd imagine

1499
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 6: you sort of recognized that you might be good at

1500
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 6: this pretty quickly. I think you were fighting in the

1501
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 6: amateur ranks maybe about a year or so later, is

1502
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 6: that right, not even a year.

1503
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 8: I trained for a few months, and then I took

1504
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 8: an amateur fight in a bar, and I mean from

1505
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 8: there on it was just history. You know. I ended up,

1506
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 8: you know, fighting a couple more times amateur. I ended

1507
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 8: up fighting like pretty tough guys. They were pretty much

1508
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 8: pro fights and Mike was like, you should just go

1509
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 8: pro man get paid, and then it ended up linking

1510
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 8: up with Shamrock FC Jesse Finney, and he hooked me

1511
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 8: up with some good fights to get my feet wet,

1512
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 8: and it was a hometown thing, so I got to

1513
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 8: sell some tickets, see my family, and it was a

1514
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 8: good way to kind of start my career.

1515
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 6: Excuse me, all right, then we're going to fast forward

1516
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 6: to twenty twenty two Onncasville, Connecticut. You're facing the legend

1517
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 6: Gagard Musasi for the belts or middleweight title. Pretty big

1518
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 6: underdog if I recall in that fight, but i'd imagine

1519
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 6: confident as ever, How confident were you fighting Musase back then?

1520
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 8: I mean I was confident in my ability to fight him.

1521
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 8: More so, I was just anxious because I had never

1522
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 8: fought a guy to his level, So I wasn't sure.

1523
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 8: You know, you never know until you're actually in there.

1524
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 8: It's a little nervous going in. But I knew, you know,

1525
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 8: from my training partners, from you know, just all the

1526
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 8: people that I that I go with. I know what

1527
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 8: level I'm at, and it was just a matter of

1528
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 8: doing it on a big stage and doing it for

1529
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 8: a belt, and you know, when when that occasion came up,

1530
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 8: I had to rise to that occasion and fight like

1531
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 8: I do when I trained, you know, And I sure

1532
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 8: did rise to the occasion and I put it on

1533
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 8: mussat seeing. You know, at the end of it, I

1534
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 8: was like, hell, yeah, this is this is what I

1535
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 8: trained for, this is what I worked hard for.

1536
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 4: And Johnny, on your last fight, you were a favorite

1537
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 4: heading into that one, and I think, you know, I

1538
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to see it. But in all the

1539
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 4: improvements that he made over the last year, Uh, definitely

1540
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 4: vast improvements. Were you surprised by I U during that

1541
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 4: fight at all?

1542
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 8: I was a little surprised. I'm more so I think

1543
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 8: I fought more at his level. I was being I

1544
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 8: was being trying to be more exciting. I was trying

1545
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 8: to stay in the pocket more and trade more and

1546
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 8: you know, kind of like fight him at his game,

1547
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 8: which was not the smartest thing to do, you know.

1548
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 8: And thankfully it ended up the way that it did

1549
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 8: and I ended up with a win. But you know,

1550
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 8: looking back at it, I should have fought a bit smarter.

1551
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 8: I should have you know, utilized my range, utilized my

1552
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 8: footwork and movement and not just hey man, we're going

1553
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 8: to stand and bang a bit. You know, I could

1554
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 8: have definitely used my fight IQ a bit more, but

1555
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 8: not just not to take anything away from impa. He's

1556
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 8: gotten a lot better. He's he can hit hard, he's

1557
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 8: a good athlete, and yeah, man, he he kind of

1558
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 8: surprised me. But like I said, I think I more

1559
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 8: so fought at his level than anything, if that makes

1560
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 8: any sense, Like I I gave him a shot at

1561
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 8: beating me when I shouldn't have.

1562
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 4: And Johnny, why was it the fight five rounds? And

1563
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: do you feel like five rounds would have been to

1564
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 4: your advantage even more?

1565
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 8: I think the fight wasn't five rounds because I think

1566
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 8: they were gonna have four Champ verse Champ fights from

1567
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 8: at the beginning, and then yeah, two of them fell through,

1568
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 8: and then they could have technically made the last two

1569
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 8: five rounds. That would have been very beneficial to me.

1570
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 8: I think because as the fight was going on, I

1571
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 8: was wearing them out, I was doing more damage I was,

1572
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 8: I was building my confidence and as go on, I

1573
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 8: get better. So I think if there was five rounds,

1574
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 8: I think I finish them, you know, and when we

1575
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 8: rematch in the future. I hope that they can make

1576
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 8: it happen. I'm hoping it's a five round fight so

1577
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 8: I can really showcase, you know, my skills, you know,

1578
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 8: because as the fight goes on, I open up more.

1579
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 8: My cardio gets better and I get better just in general.

1580
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 4: Johnny, last one for me. Do you have any idea

1581
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 4: of what is going to be next?

1582
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

1583
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 8: So I think this month Fabian Edwards and Aaron Jeffery

1584
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 8: are fighting for number one contender. If they go out,

1585
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 8: if they go out there one of them wins unscathed

1586
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 8: and they're not completely injured. I think they're going to

1587
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 8: try to match me up with the winner of that

1588
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 8: fight later on this year.

1589
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 6: Johnny Eblin with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1590
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 6: It Boo Kasangani is a good friend of the program.

1591
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 6: But I just want to make it clear you won

1592
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 6: that fight and it was an absolute thrill to watch

1593
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 6: that fight from home, just the way you sort of

1594
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 6: go about your business now. My broadcast part of the Renaissance.

1595
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 6: Man Joe Rogan did recently say on the Joe Rogan Experience,

1596
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 6: and I quote no disrespect to the other organizations, there's

1597
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 6: very good fighters in the other organizations, but I often

1598
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 6: feel like they're wasting their career because I see these

1599
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 6: elite fighters that are fighting in Belltorm PFL, and I'm like, hey, guys,

1600
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 6: no one's watching. I mean, some people are watching. You're

1601
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 6: getting a little bit of a fan base. I don't

1602
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 6: want to disrespect, but there's a reality.

1603
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 4: Now.

1604
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 6: I'm a full time UFC employee, Johnny. I bought the

1605
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 6: PFL bellatour pay per view largely because you were on it.

1606
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 6: And I know you're just getting started as far as

1607
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 6: like approaching your fighting prime, but certainly we want that

1608
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 6: fighting prime to play out in front of as many

1609
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 6: eyeballs as possible. And you're here too for always going

1610
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 6: to be asked about the UFC. But when you hear

1611
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 6: someone like Joe Rogan say that, and you're one of

1612
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 6: those elite fighters that likely he wants as a bigger

1613
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 6: combat sportshead than I am. He wants people watching, Johnny

1614
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 6: Evlin like that's his overriding point. What do you feel

1615
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 6: when you hear somebody on his level say something like that.

1616
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 8: I think he's right, man, And it's just kind of

1617
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 8: the cards that I have dealt right now. You know,

1618
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 8: there's contracts involved, There's only so much I can do.

1619
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 8: I'm trying to do the most I can to promote

1620
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 8: myself outside of you know, the PFL, and I'm trying

1621
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 8: to draw as many eyeballs as possible. But like you said,

1622
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 8: it's tough to get the majority of eyeballs on me.

1623
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 8: But like true, fight fans will tune in to watch

1624
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,520
Speaker 8: me because they know how good I am. But yeah,

1625
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm kind of stuck with what I have

1626
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 8: right now, and I'm just trying to make the best

1627
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 8: of it, and I'm going to try to extend my

1628
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 8: prime as long as possible. I'm being very smart about

1629
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 8: how I live, how I do everything, how I train,

1630
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 8: and you know, I'm going to extend my prime as

1631
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 8: long as possible to where at the end, you know,

1632
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 8: I'm going to have the most eyeballs on me and

1633
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 8: I'm going to be at the top of my game.

1634
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 8: And that's kind of the plan going forward because there's

1635
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,839
Speaker 8: only so much I can do relative to the contracts

1636
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 8: I'm involved with right now.

1637
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 6: You're doing everything right, man, you really are. But I

1638
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 6: did want to bring that your way, all right. I

1639
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 6: got a few more questions before I get to some

1640
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 6: rapid fire questions on the way out with Johnny Evlin

1641
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 6: training with Sean Strickland in Las Vegas. Seems like you

1642
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 6: guys are pretty tight.

1643
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, dude, he's a good training partner. He's

1644
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 8: an honest book when it comes to starring, and he's

1645
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 8: a tough, tough son.

1646
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: Of a bitch.

1647
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 6: I don't know how yeah, but I'm also I'm also

1648
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 6: pretty damn tough too.

1649
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 8: So when we when we kind of get together, it's

1650
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 8: just like we we level each other up. You know,

1651
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 8: we have a similar mindset when it comes to training.

1652
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 8: We like to go hard, and he's he's a good

1653
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 8: dude man, and a lot of people might think otherwise.

1654
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 8: You know, he likes to state his opinion a lot,

1655
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 8: and you know that's that's on him. A lot of

1656
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 8: other people, you know, might hold back, but he's just

1657
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 8: himself one of the time, and I really respect that.

1658
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 8: So Yeah, good guy, great training partner. I always enjoy

1659
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 8: going out to Vegas and getting rounds with him.

1660
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 6: That's cool and I think it's just cool for MMA

1661
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 6: fans to see that alignment. All right, what was your

1662
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 6: most satisfying collegiate wrestling win? I mean, national qualifier but

1663
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 6: what was your some extending see I'm trying to give

1664
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 6: you time stall time here, but maybe the most satisfying

1665
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 6: match for you, and I don't know, it could have

1666
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 6: been something early on in your career. Oh man, Yeah,

1667
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 6: this was a tough one.

1668
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 8: Honestly, there was. There was one match I wrestled. We

1669
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 8: wrestled with Illinois. It was during the the National Duels,

1670
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 8: and I ended up pinning this guy in like I

1671
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 8: think the first twenty seconds or something crazy like that.

1672
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,879
Speaker 8: It was a really big win on a big stage,

1673
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 8: and it was against the ranked opponent, and yeah, that

1674
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 8: was a really big win. I forgot the guy's name.

1675
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 8: He actually ended up beating me in the NCAA is

1676
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 8: that same year. I was on the backside. He ended

1677
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 8: up beating me out, but I got Technically, that was

1678
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 8: probably one of the biggest ones I had, you know.

1679
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 8: That's the only way I can think of. There's a

1680
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 8: few others, I think, but they're kind of less significant

1681
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 8: than that one.

1682
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 6: I love asking high level D one college wrestlers that question.

1683
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 6: Domina Cruz always tells me that to help my MMA

1684
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 6: play by play, I should watch as much college wrestling

1685
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 6: as possible, So I'm gonna I'm gonna go find out

1686
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 6: later today, who exactly that opponent was? All right, rapid

1687
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 6: fire questions with Johnny Evvelin on the way out. Favorite

1688
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 6: sports team other than American top Team, Keith, Congratulations, I

1689
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 6: figure that might be the answer. In sparring or in competition.

1690
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 6: Who is the hardest hitter you've ever been in there with?

1691
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, that's a hard one.

1692
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 6: You can pass on any of.

1693
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 8: These terribly hit me pretty hard that one.

1694
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fair, huge fucking midst That guy t would

1695
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 6: Jesus for his size my gud all right factor fiction

1696
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 6: Conor McGregor and Michael Chandler will fight each other in

1697
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 6: twenty twenty five fiction true? Or those Johnny Eblin and

1698
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 6: Bow Nickel will one day compete against each other in

1699
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,520
Speaker 6: mixed martial arts.

1700
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 8: That might be a fact, man, I don't know, but yeah,

1701
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 8: that might be a fact.

1702
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,799
Speaker 6: Feels like it. Tougher matchup right now for Johnny Evlin

1703
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 6: Israel out of Sonia or drinks due plus see.

1704
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 8: I think Drick is He's more well rounded.

1705
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 6: And then the best middleweight in the world right now

1706
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 6: other than yourself is whom.

1707
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 8: I give it to, My boy, John Strickland.

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go, all right, fifteen to O World

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01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 6: Champ Johnny Eblin. You can follow him on Instagram at

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01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,640
Speaker 6: his name Johnny Evlin. Johnny, congrats on everything, man, appreciate

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01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 6: your time, your must see TV. As far as we're concerned,

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01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 6: we'll be tracking your career buddy, wherever you're fighting. Thank you,

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01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 6: and hope to shake your hand at some point and

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 6: not too distant future, sir, Yes.

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Speaker 8: Sir, Yeah, anytime you guys want to have me on,

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Speaker 8: just hit me up.

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Speaker 6: Dude, you're the man. Thank you, buddy, Thank you. Johnny

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Speaker 6: Evlin with us here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. A

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 6: lot of a Leaf fighters out there can flow, a

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01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 6: lot of a Leaf fighters, and I do think that

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01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 6: as his career progresses, you may one day see him

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 6: in some of these dream matchups against somebody like Bo Nickel.

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01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 6: But man, that Impu Kasangan and I fight. That was

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Speaker 6: the reason I bought the pay per view. I mean

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 6: I did text you that that henon FORJDA just a

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 6: fucking monster. Like if that dude fajita, I'm buying whatever

1727
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 6: that dude's doing. He's like six nine, three hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty pounds gone out of two sixty five. But Johnny

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Speaker 6: Evlin's the man and just a really thoughtful guy about

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01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 6: his career, and I think big things are hit.

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01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 4: He really is man. He's a great fighter. I love

1732
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 4: his demeanor and I think with everything he's accomplished, bigger

1733
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: and better things are on the horizon for sure.

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Speaker 6: All Right, that is going to do it for today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to our guests. UFC number one Flyway contender

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Speaker 6: Brandon roy Vall he recently heard from Johnny Evlin Ray Longo.

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Speaker 6: Don't worry though, We're right back with you on Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: We'll be joined by Matty Betts, sports betting content creator

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Speaker 6: and the CEO of Home of Fight. Also Ken Flow

1740
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Speaker 6: and Brian Petru will place their bets for UFC two

1741
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Speaker 6: ninety nine. They will preview with predictions the eight biggest

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Speaker 6: fights on the car. Don't forget remember the show with

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Speaker 6: Jason Anakin blab Muhammad on the Anakin Florin podcast YouTube channel.

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Speaker 6: Our producer is Cody Merrow. We kem F John Anick.

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Speaker 6: Thank you all for watching, for listening, for subscribing. We'll

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Speaker 6: talk to you in about forty eight hours on Wednesday night.

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01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 6: Until then, you're fucking lady.

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Speaker 4: The bread.

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Speaker 8: He's gone red, got, he's gone red.

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Speaker 3: God lay miss oppressious to the myth that you can

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Speaker 3: keep your hands on the box in the open.

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Speaker 5: He's gone red one red raspe rail h