1
00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Really look at us now, timpt.

2
00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:13,640
Speaker 2: Jesus.

3
00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:21,520
Speaker 1: Oh do you want.

4
00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Using will be ung.

5
00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:31,880
Speaker 4: For?

6
00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:41,360
Speaker 1: It's time to beg Oh yeah, that Friday feel better late? Right,

7
00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,720
Speaker 1: let's do it. It's morning combat directly in your face

8
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,120
Speaker 1: whole November twenty one, two thousand and twenty five. We

9
00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,879
Speaker 1: don't need no Amtrak delays. We got our own technical

10
00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,640
Speaker 1: issues to deal with here. I'm Brian Amble, live and

11
00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,680
Speaker 1: direct from the Hartford, Connecticut suburbs. Yeah, the b d

12
00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 1: be the guy, you know, the dude next to me though,

13
00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,240
Speaker 1: the lumberjack is back. Yes, it's Luke Thomas of Washington,

14
00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,520
Speaker 1: DC fame who's down to one shirt but it's a

15
00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:08,080
Speaker 1: great one.

16
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,679
Speaker 5: Yeah. I wore this on mylfchat yesterday. But the truth

17
00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,240
Speaker 5: is I've never had a car heart shirt before. I

18
00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,840
Speaker 5: just bought one because it was real thick and I

19
00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,200
Speaker 5: was at Dick Sporting Goods. When I get something and

20
00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 5: uh do this thing is like a little jacket. I mean,

21
00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,720
Speaker 5: I've got like a different shirt on. I showered this morning,

22
00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,640
Speaker 5: but like, okay, kind of like.

23
00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,880
Speaker 1: Honest, nice Luke as the official uniform of Luke Thomas streaming.

24
00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,520
Speaker 1: So there you go.

25
00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,160
Speaker 5: It's the official uniform of guys who are screaming on

26
00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,040
Speaker 5: the inside and having midlife crises. You know what I mean.

27
00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,440
Speaker 2: The official uniform of Tristan the cameraman. You're about to

28
00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,280
Speaker 2: get rabbit animals.

29
00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,319
Speaker 5: No, the official interist in the cameraman was the skin

30
00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,760
Speaker 5: of another dead human being. That's actually that.

31
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,480
Speaker 1: Man has put the lotion in the basket a few times.

32
00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:48,680
Speaker 4: Hey.

33
00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 1: Today's episode of this fantastic combat sports program is presented

34
00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,400
Speaker 1: by DraftKings. Hey, DraftKings, the crown is yours. Shout out

35
00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,840
Speaker 1: to everybody watching on the DraftKings Network. Shout out to

36
00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,320
Speaker 1: all you YouTube watchers live and of course the divorce

37
00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,000
Speaker 1: dads on the audio only vibe. Stay with it, stay

38
00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,640
Speaker 1: in shape, get back in the game. Alrighty, then please

39
00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,480
Speaker 1: like and subscribe to this show. It's been here a

40
00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,840
Speaker 1: long time and it's gonna keep jamming. Okay tooy, we

41
00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,919
Speaker 1: are here to bang. Indeed, you can follow our YouTube channels,

42
00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600
Speaker 1: including some that are rather inactive, but we'll see what

43
00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,400
Speaker 1: happens there. And also, you heard his voice earlier, A

44
00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,000
Speaker 1: quick hello to the third member of the team, a

45
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,920
Speaker 1: bong enthusiast producer director son of a horned Ozzy. Yeah,

46
00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,000
Speaker 1: it's Long Island, Luke, Nocita and Luke, great to see you.

47
00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,880
Speaker 1: What about what about this main card minute Prop Quiz

48
00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,000
Speaker 1: Season two championship? When do we get to see who's

49
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,240
Speaker 1: going to face off with the BC?

50
00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,920
Speaker 2: It's going down in roughly two hours fifteen minutes ish

51
00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,160
Speaker 2: one thirty pm Eastern time. Jose Young's Ben the Baine

52
00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,880
Speaker 2: Davis winner gets one hundred dollars. Winner faces you next week.

53
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,480
Speaker 2: You see. So we're hyped for it. Great matchup.

54
00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,760
Speaker 1: Tune in, doesn't it, Luke Thomas. You know the pedigree

55
00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,639
Speaker 1: of those two. They're new school prop Quiz champions where

56
00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,400
Speaker 1: I was old school. Doesn't this feel a little bit

57
00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,880
Speaker 1: like om Hoist Gracie and they're Matt Hughes And I'm.

58
00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,800
Speaker 5: Coming back like it sounds to me like you feel

59
00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,200
Speaker 5: that way.

60
00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Luke, I've pulled an upset or two before.

61
00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember when we won the.

62
00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,000
Speaker 5: World I watched I watched I watch Jeopardy almost every

63
00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,359
Speaker 5: day or most days anyway, and yesterday was one of

64
00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,360
Speaker 5: those rare events where all three contestants got the final

65
00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,120
Speaker 5: jeopardy wrong.

66
00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,200
Speaker 1: So that was very rain man of you, Luke. I

67
00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,160
Speaker 1: support that Wapner on after or what Wpner?

68
00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,360
Speaker 5: You know, it's kind of funny. I put on Jeopardy

69
00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 5: yesterday and my daughter goes, Dad, why are you watching Jeopardy?

70
00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,000
Speaker 5: And I'm like, because I like it, and she goes, yeah,

71
00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,680
Speaker 5: but it's boring. Well, it's probably why I like it.

72
00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960
Speaker 1: Actually it was ground Basedma Luke. But we're still here, Okay,

73
00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,920
Speaker 1: war Islam, let's go, Yes, thank you, that's all right.

74
00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure that we've got a great show for you

75
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,240
Speaker 1: today as we set the stage for really a loaded

76
00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,960
Speaker 1: combat Saturday from the standpoint of UFC Cutter with a

77
00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760
Speaker 1: man and Comaine that you just can't miss in the

78
00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,360
Speaker 1: lightweight and welterweight divisions, and how about Turkey Ala Chic

79
00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. We're back in Riod with the Ring four

80
00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,080
Speaker 1: card which gives us David Benavidez, Devin Haney, Bam Rodriguez

81
00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,080
Speaker 1: and a few others and some really big fight. Look,

82
00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640
Speaker 1: you gotta say you got to say about old Versace

83
00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,039
Speaker 1: Reno and the team over there. They're not always there

84
00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,359
Speaker 1: when you call, but they're on time. With this card,

85
00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,280
Speaker 1: it's deep and we need it in boxing right now.

86
00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,600
Speaker 5: Card is pretty great, actually, The only thing that's kind

87
00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,480
Speaker 5: of interesting is one regrettably, I get it. They're paying

88
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,839
Speaker 5: the bill. Because they're paying the bill. He who pays

89
00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,719
Speaker 5: the piper calls the tune, as my dad like to

90
00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,520
Speaker 5: say when I was growing up. So the fights are

91
00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,080
Speaker 5: in Saudi Arabian, which we get. I don't know how

92
00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,920
Speaker 5: great that is for the American market, but whatever. Putting

93
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,159
Speaker 5: that aside, the one thing that I do think is noticeable,

94
00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,560
Speaker 5: BC very quickly on this, wouldn't you agree based on

95
00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,359
Speaker 5: what people are talking about related to this card? Hany

96
00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,960
Speaker 5: and Norman is the real main event. It's not the

97
00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,640
Speaker 5: actual main event, but it's the real main event.

98
00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,800
Speaker 1: No, it's a it's like a virtual pick. I'm still

99
00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880
Speaker 1: it's a Oh god, it's such a great fight. It's

100
00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,479
Speaker 1: such a great fight. Yes, unbeaten versus unbeaten because the

101
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia fight doesn't count. Yes, main event. I'm into.

102
00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a banger. The undercar card fights are great,

103
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,960
Speaker 1: but you're right, I'm here Saturday of all the fights, Saturday,

104
00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,000
Speaker 1: of all of them, including a Blah muhammed Ian Muschado

105
00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,320
Speaker 1: Gary fight that I cannot wait for. I'm most excited

106
00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,320
Speaker 1: about Norman Haney, no doubt about it.

107
00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,040
Speaker 5: I'm all, can I say, we'll talk about this later.

108
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,640
Speaker 5: I'm also kind of low key excited to see what

109
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,520
Speaker 5: Bam looks like.

110
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,880
Speaker 1: But other than that, Yeahponent in Puma Martinez and don't

111
00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,680
Speaker 1: forget about Benavidez in Yard. They're gonna bang, Luke, They're

112
00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,240
Speaker 1: gonna bang.

113
00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,640
Speaker 5: They're gonna bang, They're gonna bang. We're gonna see what happens.

114
00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,640
Speaker 5: I think the Yard's gonna have some trouble, but we'll see.

115
00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,240
Speaker 1: All right, we'll get into all that the latest news

116
00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,400
Speaker 1: as well. Uh No, John Jones talk today, So that's good, right.

117
00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,920
Speaker 5: I saw I do. I just I can't do it anymore.

118
00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,599
Speaker 5: I can't. By the way, if you knowed how he

119
00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,599
Speaker 5: goes on like these podcasts that you've never heard of

120
00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,000
Speaker 5: in your life. Yeah, kind of interesting how he ends

121
00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,120
Speaker 5: up there and like not the other.

122
00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,440
Speaker 1: Convention explains how he fumbled the bag, but it wasn't

123
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,120
Speaker 1: his fall. You know, it's just interesting.

124
00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,760
Speaker 5: He meant, dude, won't you stand it's it's three dimensional chess. Brother. Yes,

125
00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,200
Speaker 5: he's trying to walk away from thirty million, even though

126
00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:18,599
Speaker 5: he said he wanted fuck you money.

127
00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,919
Speaker 1: Because he's going to add that legacy with Poeton. You know,

128
00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I'm just here. I

129
00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,120
Speaker 1: just work here.

130
00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,600
Speaker 5: But in the famous words of Habib number made off,

131
00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,800
Speaker 5: who cares Brother? Who cares?

132
00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 1: Number one? Bullshit? Yeah yeah, I love that shit. All right,

133
00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,520
Speaker 1: shout out to everybody. Let's go, let's get into the show.

134
00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,280
Speaker 1: It's going to start right here with topic number one.

135
00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,839
Speaker 1: We're back UFC Fight Night. But it's a very very

136
00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,680
Speaker 1: good card. In Cutter, the former residence of a very

137
00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,520
Speaker 1: young Luke Thomas, and this road to Cutter in a

138
00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,400
Speaker 1: UFC Qatar or however you pronounce it preview, I'll tell

139
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,200
Speaker 1: you it's brought to you by Total Wireless, the official

140
00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,760
Speaker 1: wireless provider of UFC. Get unlimited data that won't slow

141
00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,960
Speaker 1: you down. Yeah, I'm talking about Total Wireless. The UFC

142
00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,719
Speaker 1: does make its debut and Cutter, and with it it

143
00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,479
Speaker 1: brings a lightweight main event that promises action to the

144
00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,400
Speaker 1: air of Nation as armand Sarukian is finally back after

145
00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,440
Speaker 1: pulling out of that title opportunity against islam Ma Chev

146
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,880
Speaker 1: when he welcomes a law refurbished and well tattooed Dan

147
00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,760
Speaker 1: Hooker for what could be considered, especially if Sarayukian wins

148
00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,720
Speaker 1: a number one contender fight for Ilio Taporia's one fifty

149
00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,800
Speaker 1: five title. However, they're battling for other things as well,

150
00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,840
Speaker 1: So Luke Thomas, we want to hear about those other things.

151
00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,400
Speaker 1: What lingering doubts or questions about either fighter does this

152
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,480
Speaker 1: bout try to solve? As we get fired up for

153
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,520
Speaker 1: Saryukian versus Hooker.

154
00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,080
Speaker 5: Did you see the ceremonial weigh in face off between

155
00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:48,480
Speaker 5: these two?

156
00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,119
Speaker 1: I did not yet know Saryukian.

157
00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,040
Speaker 5: Head butted him, head butted him. And the reason why

158
00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,680
Speaker 5: I bring this up is I don't think in anything

159
00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,200
Speaker 5: in the end happened. He didn't cut him, he didn't

160
00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520
Speaker 5: break his face. Isn't hard enough to do that, although

161
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,240
Speaker 5: with a guy like Hooker who has pretty considerable scar tissue.

162
00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,680
Speaker 5: Just an incredibly bone headed move by Saryuki. And again

163
00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,000
Speaker 5: I don't think anything bad necessarily happened to the point

164
00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,760
Speaker 5: where the bout is in jeopardy. But of course you

165
00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,440
Speaker 5: risk the bout being in jeopardy by doing things like that.

166
00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,240
Speaker 5: And the reason why I mentioned is because it feels

167
00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,880
Speaker 5: to me like people kind of know that Saryuki in

168
00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,560
Speaker 5: may be that guy. But he is also in a

169
00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,280
Speaker 5: bit of a probationary period in his career. He was

170
00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,520
Speaker 5: supposed to fight Islam Makhachev. I mean, how the beginning

171
00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,439
Speaker 5: of this year. Correct me if I'm wrong. We see

172
00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,520
Speaker 5: January of twenty twenty five that falls through because of

173
00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,680
Speaker 5: a reported back injury. Some folks thought it was the

174
00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,960
Speaker 5: weight cut. He comes back a few months ago, previous

175
00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,320
Speaker 5: to this present date, and he was able to be

176
00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,280
Speaker 5: the backup for a lightweight contest and made weight. I

177
00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,000
Speaker 5: believe this was maybe the fight between Iliya and Charles Olivera,

178
00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,240
Speaker 5: and he did that, no excuse me, He did that,

179
00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,120
Speaker 5: no problem. But nevertheless, there are lingering doubts about him

180
00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,240
Speaker 5: about you know, is he.

181
00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,280
Speaker 1: Really nineteen month layoff? Luke nineteen months dude.

182
00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, nineteen monthly off. It's been, i mean an

183
00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,560
Speaker 5: extremely long time. And so the point I'm trying to

184
00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,640
Speaker 5: make here is people kind of know that he looks

185
00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,080
Speaker 5: like a physical beast. He gave Islam a bit of

186
00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,360
Speaker 5: a tough fight in his basically his UFC debut, and

187
00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,160
Speaker 5: has looked very, very good. But at the same time,

188
00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,080
Speaker 5: you know, the fight against Charles Lavera, he won fair

189
00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,560
Speaker 5: and square, but it was a bit of a dull contest,

190
00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,840
Speaker 5: although he proved something. But nevertheless, they're waiting for this

191
00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,679
Speaker 5: guy to get over the hump. They're waiting for this

192
00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,320
Speaker 5: guy to be like consensus. Here we go. And you

193
00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,160
Speaker 5: could have maybe said he was that guy after the

194
00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,000
Speaker 5: Darus fight, but I think that when not that it's

195
00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,839
Speaker 5: aged badly. But there's a question now about the significance

196
00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,000
Speaker 5: of what that means. The huge layoff is here. You know,

197
00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,920
Speaker 5: he he completely fell apart at the finish line, and

198
00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000
Speaker 5: maybe for good reasons, but he fell apart at the

199
00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,559
Speaker 5: finish line against Islam, and there's kind of this sense

200
00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,319
Speaker 5: of like, is this guy really got does he have

201
00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,360
Speaker 5: things dialed in ready to make a move at the

202
00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,319
Speaker 5: top of this division. I'm not saying that headbutting Dan

203
00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,720
Speaker 5: Hooker doesn't tell us or tells us that we can't

204
00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,560
Speaker 5: get to that place. What I'm saying is stupid in

205
00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,040
Speaker 5: its own right to do something like that and seems

206
00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,640
Speaker 5: like just not understanding. The UFC was seemed very upset

207
00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,880
Speaker 5: with him that he pulled out of that fight against Islam.

208
00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,920
Speaker 5: Whether they should or they shouldn't, they are key masters

209
00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,680
Speaker 5: just understanding what the moment is and how you're being

210
00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,720
Speaker 5: perceived kind of important. The head butting at the face

211
00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,000
Speaker 5: off didn't fill me with great confidence. On the hooker side, BC,

212
00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,679
Speaker 5: this was a guy who if you had told me, oh,

213
00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,920
Speaker 5: he's gonna face a wrestler even up to a year ago,

214
00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,920
Speaker 5: I'd have been like, well, you know, foregone conclusion about

215
00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,360
Speaker 5: what's going to happen here. And if you look at

216
00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,480
Speaker 5: the odds, I don't know what DraftKings has him as

217
00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,400
Speaker 5: at the present moment, but.

218
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,280
Speaker 1: I can tell you, yeah, what are they to be here?

219
00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,480
Speaker 1: Saryki In is a minus six fifty favorite against the

220
00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,080
Speaker 1: plus four seventy Hooker.

221
00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240
Speaker 5: Fair enough, I'll wrap this up. The point is he's

222
00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,800
Speaker 5: a substantial favorite, sar yuki In, but in the case

223
00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280
Speaker 5: of Hooker really performed in ways I didn't think possible

224
00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,079
Speaker 5: against Batayosh Gamrot. Don't want to play MMA math, but

225
00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,640
Speaker 5: he's got to win over Arminsuryuki and it certainly has

226
00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,280
Speaker 5: a very similar fight style. And so there's this question

227
00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,199
Speaker 5: of at thirty five, Ken Hooker, who appears to still

228
00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,760
Speaker 5: be skill building in some of the areas we see

229
00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,560
Speaker 5: that have been deficient in his game, can he do

230
00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,800
Speaker 5: that again when the stakes are even higher. Can he

231
00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,280
Speaker 5: actually get to a point where he beats two of

232
00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,120
Speaker 5: the very best wrestlers in this division on route to

233
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 5: a title shot? At thirty five? In a sense, he's

234
00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:34,760
Speaker 5: halfway there.

235
00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hooker comes in as the number six rank lightweight

236
00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,079
Speaker 1: in the UFC, sar yuki In ranked number one. I

237
00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,640
Speaker 1: think you're right what you say, Saryukin's twenty nine. It's time.

238
00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,720
Speaker 1: It's time right now with this long layoff to find

239
00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,640
Speaker 1: out who he really is. We never got to see

240
00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,840
Speaker 1: that rematch against Islam. But again, the idea of him

241
00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920
Speaker 1: facing Eliot Taporia, which you could argue should be you

242
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,040
Speaker 1: could argue should be the kickoff fight for UFC on

243
00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,320
Speaker 1: paramount because I think it's very attractive, especially when those

244
00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,400
Speaker 1: two men have their shirts off. Luke, I don't mean

245
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,280
Speaker 1: to be a hashtag body guy for days over here,

246
00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,960
Speaker 1: but if my dad was here, he would see a

247
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,320
Speaker 1: shirtless Saruki and say he's built like a brick shit house.

248
00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,600
Speaker 1: Do you not agree? Are you not entertained?

249
00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:14,839
Speaker 5: Dude?

250
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,680
Speaker 1: This guy looks like an Armenian Hulk.

251
00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, first team all body brother. I'm like John Anick.

252
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,839
Speaker 5: If I look like that, I'd be shirtless at all times,

253
00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,199
Speaker 5: all day.

254
00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,560
Speaker 1: He's a specimen four fight win streak, as we know

255
00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,960
Speaker 1: for Sarayuki and Hooker. As you mentioned at thirty five,

256
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,600
Speaker 1: he's resurgent with a three fight win streak, the stoppage

257
00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,760
Speaker 1: over Clausio poy ish paijosh.

258
00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,400
Speaker 5: Play pay Josh That's right, Anthony.

259
00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,800
Speaker 1: Puay Joshua, and also Luke. Though the last two fights

260
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,360
Speaker 1: he's coming off of split decision wins. I'm not saying

261
00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,600
Speaker 1: he didn't earn him, but that's the road he took

262
00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,320
Speaker 1: to get here. So let's start off first by looking

263
00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,880
Speaker 1: at the tense face off between the two of them

264
00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,480
Speaker 1: earlier this week outdoors in Cutter where I'm sure it's

265
00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,320
Speaker 1: hot as balls year round. Luke, what are those cones

266
00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,640
Speaker 1: behind them? Those large?

267
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,240
Speaker 6: No?

268
00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Madonna and the Vogue video kind of yeah, wow,

269
00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,560
Speaker 1: that is you can see the size right there between them.

270
00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,320
Speaker 1: Let's start with the odds here, Luke nearly nearly a

271
00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,600
Speaker 1: seven to one betting favorite. Now, I'm gonna be straight up,

272
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump to the prediction. I think Saryuki and

273
00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480
Speaker 1: beats the crap out of Hooker, I really do. But

274
00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,880
Speaker 1: I respect Hooker's durability. I respect his overall game. How

275
00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,719
Speaker 1: the heck is sar Yuki in a six and a

276
00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:25,880
Speaker 1: half to one favorite here?

277
00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,440
Speaker 5: Well, it's just that here's the issue. The problem with

278
00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,840
Speaker 5: Gamrot is not that he can't wrestle. He can wrestle

279
00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,439
Speaker 5: quite well. The problem is that he doesn't have all

280
00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,560
Speaker 5: the time as much ground and pound as you would

281
00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,040
Speaker 5: expect from someone who's got that kind of control. And

282
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,520
Speaker 5: on the feet he actually can hurt you, but never

283
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,160
Speaker 5: seems to be able to build a offensive sequence standing

284
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,240
Speaker 5: on the feet that ever, proves to be really decisive. Interestingly, BC,

285
00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,880
Speaker 5: if you go back and you watch the Hooker in

286
00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,720
Speaker 5: Gamrot fight, Hooker gets dropped I believe in the first

287
00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,960
Speaker 5: or second round, kind of like by almost like a

288
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,120
Speaker 5: like a bolo punch from a Gamrat that lands, but

289
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,800
Speaker 5: there was just the jab side that lands, and he

290
00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,520
Speaker 5: catches him intercepting the pressure and it drops him. And

291
00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,280
Speaker 5: he had some other moment where he had uppercuts kind

292
00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,520
Speaker 5: of coming underneath the guard and stuff like that, so

293
00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,720
Speaker 5: he can be vulnerable there too. The thing is on Hooker,

294
00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 5: as I mentioned, you go back to the two losses

295
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,160
Speaker 5: he had previously against Islam, Makachev. Okay, he losened to Islam,

296
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,120
Speaker 5: not the everyone loses to Islam basically at this point.

297
00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,680
Speaker 5: And then he also lost to Arnold Allen, but that

298
00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,760
Speaker 5: was when he tried to make that very foolish move

299
00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,760
Speaker 5: to forty five. He's always been a guy who's real lanky.

300
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,440
Speaker 5: He's always been a guy who had problems with the wrestling.

301
00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 5: But his ability to get up is better, his ability

302
00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,760
Speaker 5: to defend takedowns are better, and he's fighting a little

303
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 5: bit longer now, a little bit more strategically, putting things

304
00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 5: long range to put guys at far distances. Clearly, the

305
00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,280
Speaker 5: odds makers don't think that's going to be enough. They

306
00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,440
Speaker 5: think that's so you can is gonna be able to

307
00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,080
Speaker 5: overcome any of those things, but it does. It should

308
00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,680
Speaker 5: be noted that Hooker has made real visible improvements you

309
00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,000
Speaker 5: can see on screen be enough against the guy of

310
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,480
Speaker 5: the caliber of Orman.

311
00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The main theme, as we keep saying, is can

312
00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,040
Speaker 1: so you can get in line and finally show us

313
00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,640
Speaker 1: how good he can be. We do have sound from

314
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,080
Speaker 1: Arman this week talking about how badly he does not

315
00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,440
Speaker 1: want to miss another opportunity at the title.

316
00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,680
Speaker 4: When I beat the then Hooker and not get any injured.

317
00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,560
Speaker 4: Of course I'm gonna take that fight because it's a

318
00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,840
Speaker 4: this is title fight, and as I know now, you

319
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 4: cannot turn down the title fight. So you gotta get

320
00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,400
Speaker 4: there and get your opportunity and a fight for the title,

321
00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,360
Speaker 4: because you can fight maybe once in your life for

322
00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:39,960
Speaker 4: the title.

323
00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,440
Speaker 1: Look, he does a lot of things well, he looks well,

324
00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,680
Speaker 1: he's a powerful punter, he's a very good wrestler. But

325
00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,760
Speaker 1: do you think to linger back to our original question

326
00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,440
Speaker 1: about the answers they need to solve with the layoffs,

327
00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,400
Speaker 1: with people labeling him a rich kid who didn't come

328
00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,040
Speaker 1: up the hard way, and maybe with the attention in

329
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,800
Speaker 1: detail he puts in his Instagram eating videos, there's of

330
00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280
Speaker 1: this belief that he isn't wired exactly like Hooker, And

331
00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,880
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of why I'm so surprised, even though

332
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,600
Speaker 1: I ultimately think he breaks through and wins this dominantly,

333
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,920
Speaker 1: I am surprised about the wide odds. Do you keep

334
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,240
Speaker 1: hearing what I keep hearing that people question whether he

335
00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,360
Speaker 1: has the fire to ultimately fulfill his potential.

336
00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,000
Speaker 5: I think that questioning or having some degree of skepticism

337
00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,840
Speaker 5: about whether he's fully dialed in both in terms of

338
00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,800
Speaker 5: not so much physical preparation BC. But but to the

339
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,400
Speaker 5: point you raise about to what kind of extent he's

340
00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,400
Speaker 5: got competitive fire to make the sacrifices necessary in order

341
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,840
Speaker 5: to get the very best out of himself. He's clearly

342
00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,360
Speaker 5: very talented, and he clearly works pretty hard, and that

343
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,560
Speaker 5: clearly is going to take him a pretty long way.

344
00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,840
Speaker 5: But when you get to the top, it's those small

345
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,920
Speaker 5: differences in those small margins, and to what extent he's

346
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,520
Speaker 5: got the same kind of hunger and the same kind

347
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,720
Speaker 5: of focus and the same kind of willingness to really

348
00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,239
Speaker 5: pursue things. Again, I'm not saying that he pulled out

349
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,959
Speaker 5: of the Islam fight for some kind of insignificant back injury.

350
00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,760
Speaker 5: Maybe it was quite severe and he really had to

351
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,640
Speaker 5: as very much on the table. But it just feeds

352
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,160
Speaker 5: this perception of being a little bit easily derailed, not

353
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,160
Speaker 5: not beaten, but derailed a little bit easy to look

354
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 5: at the jangling keys and not stay dialed in on

355
00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,600
Speaker 5: what you have to do. I think it's important to

356
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,879
Speaker 5: we see not just that he beats the hook or

357
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,840
Speaker 5: even like you know, beats him up real bad, but

358
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,439
Speaker 5: what I want to see a focused plan brought to action.

359
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,679
Speaker 5: A lot of times he just kind of does what

360
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,800
Speaker 5: he does and then lets opportunities unfold with what seems

361
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,120
Speaker 5: like a strategy, but not a very particular specifically you know, hardcore,

362
00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,560
Speaker 5: dialed in kind. He doesn't exactly have a plan. Can

363
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,000
Speaker 5: contrast that with Islam. It's not granted Islam is the

364
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 5: very best in the world, but he's got an extremely

365
00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,520
Speaker 5: methodical game plan and every little piece of it and

366
00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,760
Speaker 5: every little assignment he knows exactly where he has to be.

367
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,639
Speaker 5: That's a high standard. But think about the mindset and

368
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 5: think about the mindset you have to have to even

369
00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,240
Speaker 5: pull off something like that. I would like to see

370
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,639
Speaker 5: Saryukian edge a little bit closer to that kind of

371
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 5: a side to really believe he can take this all

372
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,240
Speaker 5: the way.

373
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,800
Speaker 1: Why do you think you don't have to go along

374
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 1: on this? But why do you think this fight is

375
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760
Speaker 1: the main event when it seems to be with the

376
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 1: hottest division being Welter Wade and Ian Maschadlegary being a

377
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,480
Speaker 1: big you know, on the verge of breakout starble All Muhammed,

378
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 1: a former champion who's literally coming off of a title loss.

379
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,720
Speaker 1: Why do you think that they ended up going with

380
00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,440
Speaker 1: this as the main.

381
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 5: Event, I think there's a bunch of ways you get

382
00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,440
Speaker 5: title fights from this one. If Saryukiin wins title shot,

383
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,160
Speaker 5: if Hooker wins, you could give him a title shot.

384
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,639
Speaker 5: But if Hooker wins, you don't have to and you

385
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 5: can give him the BMF fight. I think that is

386
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,560
Speaker 5: very much on the table.

387
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 1: Well, we can go to that quote tweet right now

388
00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,480
Speaker 1: of him just rere squick, just to see that if

389
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,400
Speaker 1: you can throw that up, here's a tweet, or here's

390
00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,800
Speaker 1: a quote from Hooker that says, I beat Arman, I

391
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,199
Speaker 1: can walk in fight for the BMF title or the

392
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 1: undispeated title. Considering his rank six, I mean this would

393
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,160
Speaker 1: be a huge win, right. I would think BMF would

394
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 1: be more in his face and more likely.

395
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, but either way, look what you can at

396
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,120
Speaker 5: least potentially arrange. Whereas if Ian Gary wins, he still

397
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 5: could very much get a title shot from it. I

398
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 5: think that is absolutely on the table for him. For Blahmahammed,

399
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,680
Speaker 5: if he beats Gary, maybe he gets back to a

400
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 5: title shot. But if it's Islam, I don't know how

401
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 5: that works. I don't know if they would even allow it.

402
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,919
Speaker 5: More to the point, Do I really believe that the

403
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 5: UFC is going to promotionally favor Bala Mohammed over Kamara Usbin? Candidly,

404
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that they will. So there's less gold

405
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 5: so to speak to mine in the co main event.

406
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, let's give Hooker credit for the three

407
00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,880
Speaker 1: fight win streak altering his game a bit at thirty five.

408
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 1: Between twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, he did lose

409
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: four of five fights. Yes against elea a competition. Yes,

410
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 1: that first loss was a Fight of the Year contender

411
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: and one of the best action fights of this decade

412
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,360
Speaker 1: against Dustin Poier. But three stoppages in his next four

413
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 1: fights against the likes of Michael Chandler, Islama Chef and

414
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: Arnold Allen sort of showed showed us where he was.

415
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: But where he is right now is in a very

416
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: big spot. Here's Dan Hooker talking about fighters waiting around

417
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: for title shots.

418
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 7: Manager of Justin Gager said that if Peddy Pimblett would

419
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 7: get title shot before just engage, Justin Gager will out

420
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 7: from the spot, out from the MMA.

421
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 5: What do you think about that situation?

422
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 2: You can't give Petty this hordle?

423
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 8: Can they?

424
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 4: No?

425
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean that probably it looks like they're probably going

426
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 1: to you.

427
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 2: It looks like they're probably gonna do Petty for the belt.

428
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 5: But that's just.

429
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 6: That's a ridiculous or if he gets then you, Yeah,

430
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 6: but you can't do that either. You can't just be

431
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 6: I'm not playing anymore.

432
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: No, like can't like you.

433
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 6: You know how you get a title Shaw is you

434
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 6: beat i'm on Seruki, And that's how you get a

435
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 6: title Shaw. You beat the number one contenda, You beat

436
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 6: the bass guy in the division, and you get a

437
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 6: title Shaw sitting around and fucking pointing fingers in arguing

438
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 6: who deserves it more?

439
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: Just god, THEMN win fights.

440
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 6: Got damn beat the bass guy in the division and

441
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 6: you get a title shot.

442
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: So look, there was a lot of talk at media

443
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: day there about the fact that the UFC changed lightweight

444
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: rankings and has Patty pimblet now at number five. I

445
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,959
Speaker 1: believe our friend Christina Duty from She Loves the Gloves

446
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: was the one who started that convo and got hook

447
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: her a little bit upset there. But let's not forget

448
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: Hooker also on a fifteen month layoff himself coming in here.

449
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: But do you believe what he's saying might be true

450
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: that they are positioning Patty since Gaechie's hurt, Sarukia needs

451
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 1: to win one more. It does kind of feel like

452
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: it would be Patty next for to Poria.

453
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: No, I mean, it's a fight we kind of all

454
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 5: want to see. I don't know. I don't know how

455
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: to answer that one. It doesn't take a genius to

456
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 5: look at this and say, we already know that Paddy

457
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 5: Pimblet is promotionally favored. We already know that Pimblet's done

458
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: a pretty good job of making himself have to fulfill

459
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 5: a guy's promise to become promotionally favored and then for

460
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 5: that to mean something. And we also know that there

461
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 5: is obviously heat between he and Eliot's Aporia. I can't

462
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 5: really add much to the conversation beyond that, But you

463
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 5: know this idea that like, oh they might favor Patty,

464
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: they already they've been doing that a long time. This

465
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 5: would be the last extension of it, you know what

466
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,479
Speaker 5: I mean?

467
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, if we don't get Alia versus Islam,

468
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: and I am starting to feel that that what we

469
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: talked about after last weekend's card, that it feels further

470
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: away now or not happening. I would love if the

471
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: first three title defenses, if Taporia makes it through them,

472
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: are Patty Armand and BSD. I mean, that'd be a

473
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: nice little.

474
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: Why are people high on BSD.

475
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: Because he's the god of war, you should get high

476
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: on him too. Luke, okay, unchallenged.

477
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 5: Good, he's good. He's not beating.

478
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, but let me tell like this, you're

479
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: of the belief and I'm not saying you're wrong, and

480
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 1: you said it on Monday Show that Ilia should not

481
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 1: ever go up to one seventy and fight islam its two.

482
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: That gap is too much size wise, wrestling wise. And

483
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: we can say the only lightweight fight we've seen on

484
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: the title level from Ilia is the title win over Olivera.

485
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: But didn't it look early like Olivera size was a problem.

486
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: These are full fledged, action, tough as shit lightweights. I

487
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: want to see the challenge that.

488
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, fine, that's a fair argument. Well, not that Charles

489
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: Olavera won. He didn't appear overly strong to me relative

490
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 5: to Ilia.

491
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: But in the beginning he was kind of he was having.

492
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 5: A little bit. But what I would say is to

493
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: the point where you raise like fighting true big lightweights

494
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: like guys like BSD. Should he able? Should he sufficiently

495
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: climb the ladder? Totally fine? Fair, that's much more competitive,

496
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 5: and I think almost actually to a degree. You know,

497
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 5: number one versus number two pounds pound of aime is

498
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 5: always going to be the most important but relevant and

499
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 5: interesting because it's actually competitive the formerer than the latter.

500
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get the betting take here from One

501
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke, Main Card, Minute and OSDA. We mentioned

502
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: those wide odds plus four seventy on Hooker. Are you

503
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: taking them odds?

504
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: No?

505
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: I mentioned to Luke, I took Arman in a parlay.

506
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: I think he wins this.

507
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it goes to diser from you is I

508
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 1: got this guy in a parlay. Tell the people how

509
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: to bet this fight's all right?

510
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: Well, so what I did throw down on this fight,

511
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: which is plus money right now, is the Dan Hooker

512
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: plus thirteen and a half spread. It's plus one forty.

513
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: So if it goes the distance, one judge needs to

514
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: give him one round. I think very five. Yeah, if

515
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: it goes the distance, I think that hits. I just

516
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to go the distance. The

517
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: over under is said at three and a half, and

518
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: the over three and a half is plus money, so

519
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: do with that what you will. But that's the only

520
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 2: hooker bet I got here.

521
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: All right, Look, you haven't bet on a hooker since

522
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: that time you said no to the Osbourne. I think

523
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: that that was a good bet. Okay, you know, I

524
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: think that's a very good bet. Lt who wins this fight?

525
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: It's striker versus wrestler, but armand can throw around too.

526
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: What does it look like? Whoa?

527
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 5: That's what. That's the thing that caught my eye when

528
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 5: I was obviously prepping for today's show, I was like,

529
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: you know, let's rewatch this Gamrot and Hooker fight. And

530
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 5: Gamrock was landing on Hooker several times, hurting him several times.

531
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: We want some more than others, you know, but clearly

532
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: having an effect, busted his face up a little bit.

533
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 5: I would just be very surprised if Hooker loses the

534
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, I'd be very surprised if Saryukiin loses this.

535
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Now.

536
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 5: One thing that Hooker did to counter the wrestling pressure

537
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: of Gamrock was to go for that guillotine over and over.

538
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 5: That helped them stuff takedowns or sometimes he was able

539
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 5: to get back to his feet or even to his base.

540
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 5: Something to pay attention to. Syukiin can be reckless at times,

541
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 5: but BC he really should not lose this fight. He

542
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 5: should be able to finish it. I just I would

543
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 5: be surprised if he doesn't.

544
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: So you think he grounded, pounds him.

545
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 5: Out or he I think what he might do is

546
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 5: hurt him on the feet and then finish him off

547
00:25:59,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 5: on the.

548
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's time for Armand to make a statement.

549
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: I wonder if that is what fueled that moment in

550
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: the face off. Look, look, we're gonna get into it.

551
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: In that Hani Norman face off that everybody thinks Hany

552
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: showed too much nervous energy and you're never really sure.

553
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is just Arman showing I'm serious

554
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: this time. I'm coming to kill you. I know what's

555
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: at stake. I'm getting that title shot, So maybe we'll see,

556
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 1: we'll see. All right, I'm going stoppage there on strikes

557
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: as well before the probably go mid third round there,

558
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: take it, run it to the bank, the blood bank.

559
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to that Colemane event. Heck yeah,

560
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Former champion thirty seven year old Ballah Mohammed going directly

561
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: back in the fire after losing his world title the JDM.

562
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: He's going to fight a still overall surging twenty eight

563
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: year old Ian Maschado Gary, who is eight and one

564
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: overall in the UFC two fights removed, of course, from

565
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: his one loss against shav Katt Rockmanov that you can

566
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: argue he got almost the most critical respect for how

567
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: he behaved. He's also directly coming off of Victor River

568
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: Carlos protest that looks great on paper, but did see

569
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: him have to truly scramble and hold on for dear

570
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: life late to avoid getting stopped. Either way, this is

571
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: a very very important fight for the sport's deepest division.

572
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: As we look at the rankings right now, Gary coming

573
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: in at number six, Bala Mohammed's still ranked number two,

574
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: as the UFC likes to do with a former champion

575
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: coming directly off. Keeping that high ranking. Are odds from

576
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: DraftKings plus two twenty Balah Mohammed minus two seventy Ian Gary.

577
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: This could be a number one contender's bout. So, Luke,

578
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: what are the keys to victory in this contest?

579
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: You know what's so funny when There's been a lot

580
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 5: of criticism about Jack Dala Medalana. We'll talk about this

581
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 5: a little bit later in the show and the game

582
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 5: plan or the execution of the game plan and what

583
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 5: exactly was the problem. But BC, you went back before

584
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 5: UFC three twenty two and you watched JDM and belaw

585
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 5: Right or did you did you reveal it? Yeah, one

586
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 5: thing that I really noticed in that fight and reviewing

587
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 5: it prior to three twenty two was the footwork of JDM,

588
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 5: and not just the footwork in a sense of setting

589
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: up angles, but the lateral movement. You know, we talked

590
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: a lot. There was a big storyline made about how

591
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: Ballall didn't shoot enough, and again we've been over this,

592
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 5: but we're not going to relitigate it. But one thing

593
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: that I think kind of gets lost in this conversation

594
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: a little bit is part of the reason that maybe

595
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: Bollaal didn't shoot as much as he ordinarily would have

596
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: was many reasons. One of them was the lateral movement

597
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: of JDM in that fight. Of course, if partly that's

598
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: keeping range, partly, if that's stuffing takedowns, partly that's clinch breaking.

599
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: There's a lot of other factors that go into that one,

600
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: but he was on the move. We'll be see who

601
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: has faster feet and better lateral movement at one hundred

602
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: and seventy pounds than Ian Gary, and the answer is nobody.

603
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: Nobody does. He is very quick on his feet. He

604
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 5: is very good about fighting at range. He's very good

605
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: about touching and going. He's very good about circling, changing direction.

606
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: He also be se can do this in part because

607
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 5: I believe that against the fence he has very very

608
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 5: good takedown defence, a little bit less so in open space,

609
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: but certainly up against the fence, he's tough to take down.

610
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: This seems to me like it could be a problem

611
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: for Balmhamad BC. It seems to me that a guy

612
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 5: who can do that kind of thing, who can touch

613
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: at long range, who can touch and go, who has

614
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 5: good offensive and defensive footwork, fast feet, can throw with

615
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 5: hands and foot combination, and is tough to take down

616
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: along the fence, that is the battle that Blall has

617
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: to be able to overcome. He has to be able

618
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: to win that battle some kind of ability to get

619
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 5: Ian Gary up against the fence, which I do think

620
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: he might be able to do. I'm not gonna say

621
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: with ease, but it will happen, and then he's gonna

622
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: have to find a way to then make that work

623
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 5: because if he can't, it's gonna be real tough for him.

624
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: Here's one of my concerns, and I wonder if you

625
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: share it, that a guy like Gary might be able,

626
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 5: for the most part, to control the offense or to

627
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 5: bare minimum have ballall fighting on Gary's terms because of

628
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 5: the nature of the movement and the range he's occupying. However,

629
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: what it might mean is that the fight kind of

630
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 5: stalls out and gets a little boring, true, you know

631
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 5: what I mean, because he's just gonna have a hard

632
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 5: time getting offense going. And Gary's whole style against these

633
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 5: pressure wrestlers is to touch and go. It's not to like,

634
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: you know, stand your ground and really put up your dukes.

635
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 5: What kind of fight do you get for three rounds?

636
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 5: And what does Bala Muhammad have in mind to challenge that?

637
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: These to me are the central questions that are going

638
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: to answer this fight, depending what we get on.

639
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: This is officially a three round fight. That's confirmed.

640
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 5: Yes, it's three rounds, okay.

641
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: I wonder what that means for if Bilal has trouble

642
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: on the feet because Gary doesn't doesn't let you hit

643
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: him easy. I wonder what that means for him. Just

644
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: try looking to spam takedowns, Luke, and if you I mean, look,

645
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I get exactly what you're saying. Here's the biggest question

646
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: I have for you ultimately as we break this down,

647
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: because I'm I don't think I am Luke a fair

648
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: uh you know, a watcher of this fight, because I

649
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: do believe that Gary will fight for a title probably

650
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: where one one day, and you know we do have

651
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: similar tastes in life, Luke. But what did you learn

652
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: ultimately about Ian Gary off of his last two fights,

653
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: which are the two fights on his resume that were

654
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: they he fought truly elite opponents in Shavka and also

655
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Carlos Protest. What did you ultimately learn about what he

656
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: what he's like under fire, what he can do at

657
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the highest level.

658
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 5: Gary? Yeah, kind of what I mentioned. I think that

659
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: he understands his body type. He has a and his

660
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 5: athletic type, and he's got a style that naturally that

661
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 5: is I would say, built off of that, which I

662
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 5: do think is going to carry him pretty far. If

663
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: you're if you're fighting a style that really caters to

664
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 5: your athletic skills and your gifts as well as you

665
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 5: know what just they work together. He's building an offense

666
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 5: based off what he should be building an offense off

667
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: You might ask for it to be more potent. You know,

668
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 5: not everyone can have the punching power of Carlos Proceez.

669
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 5: But what I would say is bec this is the

670
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 5: biggest problem I've had with him, and I've mentioned this

671
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 5: a number of times. I mean, for example, for example,

672
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: even though he lost to shoff kot Rochmanov, you consider

673
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: where that fight ended, where Gary's on his back, but

674
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: he can't quite get the job done, and he was

675
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 5: able to buy the way to also get MVPs back

676
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: early in that fight without much resistance. He is very,

677
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 5: very skilled and technical, both on the defensive side and

678
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 5: sometimes even on the offensive side, especially as it pertains

679
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: to getting quick attacks from the back and dominant positioning.

680
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: But his finishing mechanics are just not great. There's been

681
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: a number of times he's been in really great positions

682
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: to put very very skilled guys away, like he had

683
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: him dead to rights, and he couldn't do it because

684
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: the mechanics were poor and so when you combine poor

685
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: finishing mechanics as well as you know, not necessarily having

686
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: torrential ground and pound, in part because he's more of

687
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 5: the back than occupy the top side. And then it

688
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: range he's touching and going. It's piecemeal offense. There's never

689
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 5: like a real running current of offense. I think that's

690
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 5: the issue that's going to hold him up. You see,

691
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 5: he's skilled, he's athletic, he's young, and he wants to smoke.

692
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: It's the refinement of that last ten percent of his game.

693
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 5: If he can unlock that, he can be champion. It

694
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 5: reminds me I don't know.

695
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Umar in that regard, although Umar does have that on

696
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: the ground, it seems, but not necessarily on the feet,

697
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: that next extra level or a layer. Let's hear from

698
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Ballal because he's been staying consistent with the big headlines.

699
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Although he did not comment this weekend media day whether

700
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: he believes Koshogi had it coming, he did weigh in

701
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: on Epstein Luke.

702
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: My future is bright, right. I'm training with young masters.

703
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: Ignacio BALMNDS is probably twenty eight, and I think he's

704
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: one of the best strikers in UFC. Like I said,

705
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: I got a seventeen year old now Nata, his younger brother,

706
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: who's a monster.

707
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: Right.

708
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: It feels like the Epstein Files with it without the

709
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, the sex right in their their their powers

710
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: through through sparring and training. Uh So it feels good

711
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: and I love training every day with these guys. I'm

712
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: learning from these guys, and I'm growing so much from

713
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: these guys. The energy they bring it. It makes me

714
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: feel younger and I'm still young into sport. My body

715
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: feels good every single day I wake up. I'm blessed

716
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: to be where I am right now?

717
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: Does that make him gi? Just Laine Maxwell of UFC

718
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: is that I don't get it.

719
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 5: Dude, What the fuck was that? It's the it's the

720
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 5: Epstein Files without the sex.

721
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: It's like, h sir, that is not an acceptable statement

722
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.

723
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 5: That's the worst thing I've ever heard.

724
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Maybe all right, Well, he did make a prediction about

725
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: defeating Ian Gary, and here is the response from mister Mushado.

726
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 8: G BLO has had a lot.

727
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: Of success.

728
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 8: Those best which is making it up. He should continues

729
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 8: to try to do that. However, there is not a

730
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 8: chance in hell that if he stays on the feet

731
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 8: with me, that he survives past five minutes. There's not

732
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 8: a chance in hell. If you want the genuine reaction

733
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 8: of what I believe that video is. That's a man

734
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 8: lying to himself. That's a man who is playing reverse

735
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 8: psychology and is gonna tell the world that he's good

736
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 8: enough to do whatever he wants when realistically he knows

737
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 8: he has to grab a hold of me. It sounds

738
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 8: like he's already making excuses and grab a hold and

739
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 8: I'm gonna let him up. So he's gonna grab a

740
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 8: hold of me. He knows I'm gonna defend. And do

741
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 8: you see what I mean? You see the way with

742
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 8: the thought patterns, I'm seeing the big m at the start,

743
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 8: You've spent eight weeks. What do you mean You've been

744
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: thinking about this every day of your life for the

745
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 8: last eight weeks. You have an idea in your mind

746
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 8: of how it's gonna go. You don't need to study,

747
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 8: you don't need to pause, you don't need have a breath.

748
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 8: I just think he's he hasn't learned from his last

749
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 8: fight if he has this approach, So I think I

750
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 8: think he's lying to the world. I can tell you

751
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 8: right here, right now. I'm gonna be bout anywhere I want,

752
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 8: but I plan I'm not going to mount in the

753
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 8: first round. I can promise you this right now, Mike.

754
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 8: If he shows up and tries to box me, he

755
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 8: won't land a single punch. That's my promise to you

756
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 8: right now. There's a reason I look this good after

757
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 8: well after this fight would be my seventeenth professional win.

758
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 8: It's because I don't get hit that much. But I'll honestly,

759
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to get irritated. But there's just no

760
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 8: world where he shows up and tries to out box me.

761
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 8: If he does, he's an it.

762
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: Look, let the record show that my love for Ian

763
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Gary does not fully cover the fact that he's very

764
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: annoying on the microphone. But he did make some strong

765
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: points right there. I mean, look, you know, Saryukin's in

766
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: a similar spot where they need a breakthrough, powerful statement

767
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: win here to get that title shot. It's a little

768
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: harder and a more crowded welterweight division. The best thing

769
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Gary can do here is do exactly what he's saying,

770
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: look to get that stoppage. But let's not act like

771
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Balal Muhammad has a lot of losses in the UFC.

772
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: He's got one this decade. Let's not act like he's

773
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: not durable. How likely is this, Luke, that he could

774
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: do this? I mean, he's gonna have to turn it

775
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: up a whole nother gear and really take chances.

776
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess if Blaal is compromised right

777
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: now or like insanely reckless, yeah, maybe Gary knocks him

778
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: on in the first round. Dude. One of the takeaways

779
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 5: from the Ballal and JDM fight was JDM was piecing

780
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 5: him up and Ballaal just kind of kept moving through it.

781
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 5: And JDM is not a soft puncher. I mean, obviously

782
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 5: he didn't get going against Islam all right whatever, but

783
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 5: like in general, I think the record kind of shows that,

784
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 5: and Blat took his best punch and kept it moving.

785
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: I'm like, Gary's not really known as a heavy hitter.

786
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: That seems to me just a bunch of pre fight bullshit.

787
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 5: I don't would it would it be Would it be

788
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 5: great for him if he did? Yeah, obviously, but I

789
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 5: don't know how could the chances of that long? Isl Luke,

790
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: Would you bet on that in any capacity? Would you

791
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: bet on a first round ko At the hands of Garry.

792
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Even a second round.

793
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: I think this fight's going the distance. Yeah, I don't

794
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: know who win. Like I'm leaning Ean Gary. I could

795
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: see a ball all upset, but regardless it goes all

796
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: through that.

797
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we're just talking bullshit here.

798
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's like getting a law of degree

799
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: and never using it. Luke, you know what I mean,

800
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: like like stand in show us that power mesh. You

801
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's go, Yeah, come on, we're.

802
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 5: Talking about We're talking about better call y'all.

803
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I love that guy, you know that. I mean, look, look,

804
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, do you are you angry at my you know,

805
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: affiliation with Ian Gary. I just believe in him. We

806
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: both love Layla, him, the woman Me the song. Luke,

807
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

808
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 5: You picked weirdos, but you know, yeah, so I'm make sense.

809
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of weird interactions, Luke, we had one this

810
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: week between these two comin event fighters at the hotel

811
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: in cutter Let's watching.

812
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: Good enjoy your finish.

813
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: Want to say, how do you say you going?

814
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 8: You know, there's no my intentions to have any research.

815
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that was a little weird. Well, all right, ball.

816
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 5: Didn't Ball didn't want to do it.

817
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: He was like, uh, you know, Luke, what does Balall

818
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: need to do in this fight? Because he's a he's

819
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: had an interesting cross like his record's great the run

820
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: he went on to win a title. I never believed

821
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: him in the along the journey and look where he got.

822
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: I give him so much credit. But he's thirty seven,

823
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: and if he gets a second straight loss against an

824
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: elite foe, we're talking probably about the twilight of his

825
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: run here. What does he need to do to get

826
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: a very important victory to hold serve atop this division.

827
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: I honestly feel like, again, you know, very easy for

828
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 5: me to say, oh, add wrinkles to your game at

829
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 5: age thirty seven, but I really do believe it's kind

830
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 5: of necessary. I believe that if he could really meaningfully

831
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 5: add what they call you know, well there's different names

832
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 5: for it, but the ability to do effective clinch work

833
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 5: up against the fence not so much. I mean, you

834
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: have to mix in takedown attempts. That'd be part of it.

835
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 5: You know, you could add some judo in there to

836
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 5: what the what the daugistanis do where they switch between

837
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 5: you know, different kinds of universes of takedowns. I mean,

838
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 5: that'd be one thing, but the other part two is

839
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 5: just kind of mauling a guy up against the fence.

840
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 5: If you're going to be able to get a guy

841
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 5: there and the takedown's not there, then you have to

842
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: have a second answer, right. So the second answer would

843
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: be either change the way you do the takedowns by

844
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 5: adding these other wrinkles to it, like the so justin

845
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 5: Flores style of what he calls wall wasa that'd be

846
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 5: one route you could take, or the other one would

847
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: be to really being to rough people up along that

848
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: space you just have to go. You have to have

849
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 5: offense where the fight's going to go. And yes, you

850
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 5: can try and make it go to a certain place

851
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 5: where you know you have offense, but you have to

852
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 5: have a secondary gear to hit in the event that

853
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: that that's not possible. And I know he's trying to

854
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: use his hands at distance, but the reality with Ian

855
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: Gary is he's going to be on the move, So

856
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 5: you have to have one where it's a little bit

857
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: more of control of him, an underhook head pressure he's

858
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 5: being held, and then being able to start working something

859
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 5: a little bit more particular. I think these are the

860
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: kinds of things that are going to really give him

861
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: an extra edge. But that's you know, fifteen minutes is

862
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: not a lot of time against an opponent of this

863
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: quality who's got this kind of movement. It's a tough

864
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: fight for Ball. I think it can be done. Certainly,

865
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 5: if he gets the takedown, it can definitely be done.

866
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 5: But if it can't, it's possible still. But this is

867
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 5: to me the point of friction.

868
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think that what you teased earlier, the

869
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: idea that this could be a boring tactical fight, not

870
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: even a technical thriller, Luke more of just well Gary

871
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: control the striking action, mitigates the times he's on his back. Look,

872
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: he's a large welterweight. He's these certain like skills, you know,

873
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: like he's very good at preventing you from having great

874
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: success against him, from taking over the terms of the

875
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 1: fight against him. I think this is a win for Gary.

876
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't see the breakthrough finish. It's been a long

877
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: time since he had kicked d Rod, especially at this

878
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: elite level. Is a decision win, even if it's wide.

879
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Is a decision win enough to crack the code in

880
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: this larger title picture, because I don't know. For some reason,

881
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: after Saturday when the name Kamara Usman got thrown around,

882
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't love it, but I get

883
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: it the further we get away from that fight. I

884
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: hate it now, don't want I don't want Kamorrow in

885
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: there against Islam now after coming off of this breakthrough win,

886
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: best fighter in the sport. Look, I'll always get it, Luke,

887
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: but I don't think the Buckley win should be the

888
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: free pass to get here. Tomorrow is thirty eight? Can

889
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: Gary do this without a breakthrough early stoppage where he

890
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: gets on the mic and does some quasimicggor shit.

891
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 5: I I don't know. I don't have a strong beat

892
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 5: on that, do you.

893
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I know, there's a lot

894
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: of options. Look, you got Morales, she got protests. There's

895
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot that UFC can do here. I just with

896
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: considering that, I don't want Uzban anymore. Luke, don't do

897
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: it to me?

898
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I agree, I agree, I agree, but

899
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: I just I mean the UFC might want it, in

900
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: which case it doesn't really matter what we say, you know.

901
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, here's the final word from Gary about

902
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: what he's ultimately gonna do to Bolah.

903
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 8: Blah Muhammad is a perfect example for me to go

904
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 8: out and show the world how talented an. I'm gonna

905
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 8: break them.

906
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: My goal on.

907
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 8: Saturday night is to make it on the niable. Then

908
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 8: I'm the greatest wealth away walking upon it. Right now,

909
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 8: Blah Muhammad is a perfect example for me to go

910
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 8: out and show the world how talented an. I just

911
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 8: don't see him lasting very long. I just don't see it.

912
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 8: The way I'm hitting, the I am moving, the power,

913
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 8: the vision, the speed. I just I'm gonna break him.

914
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 8: He likes to talk about being but Aw's biggest strength

915
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 8: is he's tough and he's durable, and he likes to

916
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,959
Speaker 8: get in people's face. He's not gonna get in my face.

917
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 8: He's gonna be captain arranged and I'm gonna ping them

918
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 8: out off and buss his face open, and eventually he's

919
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 8: gonna look for an easy way out and I'm gonna

920
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 8: give it to him. It's gonna be my left on

921
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 8: my right hand landing on his chin and pull my sleep.

922
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's saying the right things, Luke. I mean

923
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: it's so listen, deliver it now, deliver Yeah, if he

924
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: does that, I mean he's off to the races.

925
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: I just need to see something like that first.

926
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Gary by decision. I feel like you're

927
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: doing the.

928
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 5: Same, Dame. I'll do exactly the same.

929
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, this is for a fight night card.

930
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: We got some things to talk about. I like this card, Luke,

931
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: what else you love it? What are you loving on

932
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: this card?

933
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: Well, there's actually quite a bit on this card. I

934
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 5: don't I'm not super high on the Uzdemir Minifield fighting

935
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 5: part because Uzdemir I think has been good, but I

936
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 5: don't know if we're getting the best of him anymore.

937
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: Minifield is an interesting athlete, but a little bit of

938
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 5: a donk Donkerson. Let's start with the interesting fights. Jack

939
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 5: Hermanson down at welter went against Mike tebec or Bick Tebec,

940
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 5: Oral by a former lightweight. So we have a former

941
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 5: middleweight and a former lightweight meeting in the middle at

942
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 5: one seventy. A super strange fight. Oral by an absolute

943
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 5: hammer who came off that nice win over Tafiite Masaya

944
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: where he got I think the Kamoraf I'm not mistaken. Yes,

945
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 5: that's right. So that was a nice win. Obviously, had

946
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: the blood and guts fight with Rombetski, which was just insane.

947
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what it means for him to go

948
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 5: to seventy. I think he needs to, obviously because of

949
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 5: some of the weight cutting issues, but nevertheless, a strange one.

950
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're gonna get with Jack Hermanson

951
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 5: drained down to seventy.

952
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Years old, thirty seven years old, he's gonna cut down?

953
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: Do you know? He's alternated wins and losses for ten

954
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: straight fights.

955
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 5: It's insane. And his last two wins, if I'm not mistaken,

956
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 5: were like Joe Pifer and Chris Curtis, some decent names

957
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: he's got on the list there. But nevertheless, that a

958
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 5: strange one, and they're both kind of grapplers. So we'll

959
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: see how that one plays out. BC we have to say, well,

960
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 5: was it forty eight hours notice or something? Waldo Cortez

961
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: a Costa fresh off of the main event or Comaine

962
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 5: or whatever the fuck it was against Ante Delia, flies

963
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: to cutter, makes weight and he's taken on Shamil Gassi Ghaziev.

964
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: What the heck?

965
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 5: I don'kay? Then we go down Kiogi Horror Gucci's on

966
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: the prelim card.

967
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: What are we talking about, or maybe it's it's still

968
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: moved him.

969
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 5: They moved to the main okay, fair enough, but for

970
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 5: a while he was he was on the premium card

971
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: taking on too Garu Lambakov, who to me has had

972
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: a couple of tough breaks in the UFC. Not a hammer,

973
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: but very very well, very very well rounded, especially good

974
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: with some of the positioning things. So that's gonna be

975
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 5: I think, a tough grappling battle, and as Horror Gucci

976
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 5: can really stay on his feet there.

977
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm beaten in sixth straight, going back to that patchy

978
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: mixed loss in Bellator, and.

979
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 5: Then from there it's a you can just pick a

980
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 5: lot of different ones. A guy who's been kind of

981
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 5: an internet hero, shem Rock, is making i think, is

982
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: UFC debut here against Narillo Aliev. That's a fun one.

983
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 5: Bezott Alma Khan taking on Alexandre to Toporia. That's gonna

984
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 5: be Ilia's younger brother dude. Up and down this card,

985
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: there's a this is not an ordinary fight night right.

986
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 5: It's the first time in this country, so they're bringing

987
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: a bit of a heavy dough. This is like not

988
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 5: a pay per view, but it's not exactly just oh,

989
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 5: we're in Atlanta this weekend. No, it's something one of

990
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: those in between ones.

991
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: It's very very good card Long Island. Look, let's talk

992
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: from either a betting or just from a this man

993
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: lives for the prelims standpoint. Is there a storyliner matchup

994
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: that you're more focused on than others?

995
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, I was telling Luke I was bummed about Waldo

996
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: Cortez a Costa stepping in only because I had a

997
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: bet on Serge Spivak as an underdog. I thought that

998
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: was a good fight for him against Gazib Gaziev. However,

999
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: the fuck you say his name?

1000
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 6: Uh?

1001
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: The fight they bumped to the pre limbs to put

1002
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: Horigucci on the main Alex perez A Sue Almabiev. If

1003
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: you guys remember Asue Almabiav was my dark horse of

1004
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, you know, not the greatest year, but

1005
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: I need a dub from him here to solidify a

1006
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: spot in the top fifteen. Other than that, there's some

1007
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: great like local, not local, but you know, middle whatever

1008
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: you want to call it. Guys, Yak Yayev, this guy's

1009
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: like the biggest favorite on the card. He's like minus

1010
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred. There's this other guy fighting, Nicholas Dalby is Zakamaya.

1011
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, there's a lot of ostu amabaya.

1012
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: If you love that guy, yeah, I just said that guy.

1013
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 9: I know.

1014
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying like, this is great for you.

1015
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: That's my boy. Uh either way, dude, I know we're

1016
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: coming off three twenty two, one of the best cards

1017
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: of the year, but this is like one of the

1018
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: best fight nights of the year too. This is pretty

1019
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: damn good.

1020
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 5: Totally right.

1021
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: It all goes down and they.

1022
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 5: Also I'll be I'll be doing a watch along and

1023
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 5: postfight show for this one tomorrow.

1024
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Excellent long Island loud. Can we see you tomorrow on this.

1025
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, full car baby ten am Eastern really st.

1026
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: Leave the women and children behind for this one. Wow.

1027
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: It'll take place in the city of Al Raison Cutter,

1028
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: inside the venue known as Ali bin Hamad al at Tiya.

1029
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 5: This is a suburb or just outside like the outskirts

1030
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: of Doha, So it's it's.

1031
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Basically, did you live near that arena when you were.

1032
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not sure where we lived when

1033
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 5: we lived in Doha.

1034
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, are there pictures of you in Cutter? Yes,

1035
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: Oh wow, a young lt You were probably like a

1036
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: thirty eight pound baby at that point, right, just like.

1037
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I'm not sure how because we lived was

1038
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 5: born in India, then we spent some time in Japan,

1039
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 5: and then we went to Doha, so it was little.

1040
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: While I'm gonna guess fifteen pounds.

1041
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 5: When I was born. Yeah, no, ten and some change.

1042
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 5: Was still pretty big, all.

1043
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Right, still pretty big, look still pretty big. That goes

1044
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: down this weekend UFC Cutter watched those gentlemen's YouTube offerings. There.

1045
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: I'll be on CBS Sports HQ after the card as well.

1046
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 5: You go on to the studio.

1047
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: No, not for this, No, I'll be from home. Oh.

1048
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: This podcast sponsored by Total Wireless, the official wireless partner

1049
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: of UFC. And you already know when you're streaming the

1050
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: fights and you're sharing those takedown highlights with your bro skis,

1051
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna need a wireless provider that keeps you close

1052
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: to the action. But with Total Wireless, how close you

1053
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: want to be. You're covered with the Verizon five G network,

1054
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about your connection being

1055
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: KOed during those biggest moments. And while I don't normally

1056
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: go around saying, you know my wireless provider, they got

1057
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: my back, They're my coach in the corner. The thing

1058
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: is about Total. They are in your corner every second

1059
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: of the day, so you never miss a thing, keeping

1060
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: you covered for just twenty five dollars a month. That's

1061
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: four lines, folks, never sacrificing the essentials like speed, and

1062
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: with Total you get unlimited five G data so you

1063
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: can stay ahead of the action. Total Wireless also understands

1064
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: those shots you don't see coming, those are the KO shots.

1065
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: So why don't you lock in your price guaranteed for

1066
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: five years, taxes and fees included. The best fighters don't

1067
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: make it to the top without that all in support

1068
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, So why don't you find out what

1069
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: Total Wireless can do for you. Visit your local Total

1070
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Wireless store or head to Total wireless dot com and

1071
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: you can find out if Total is perfect to be

1072
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: in your corner. I'm going to tell you right now,

1073
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: they are in fact five GX as required a five

1074
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: G capable device on a five G service area monthly

1075
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: rate on the Total base five G unlimited plan for

1076
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: new subscribers. Applies only to the monthly right for your plan,

1077
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: Additional terms apply hey see the website for more details.

1078
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Topic number two time UFC Cutter. Somewhere near there on

1079
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: that side of the world, we're going to get a

1080
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: huge boxing event in riod As, Turke Alaschik Ring and

1081
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: Company present Ring number four, a loaded dizone pay per

1082
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: view card offering In the main event, David Benavitez defending

1083
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: his light heavyweight championship his title against battle tested Anthony Yard.

1084
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: We're also going to see some big fights we'll talk

1085
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: about like Hani Norman, the return of one Bam Rodriguez,

1086
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: along with the hot prospect Abdullah Mason in his first

1087
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: title fight. But let's start at the top. Right here.

1088
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Yard has racked up four consecutive wins to get

1089
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: to this point. We've seen him give big time names

1090
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: like Sergei Kovalev and Arthur betterbv Tru in big title fights.

1091
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: He may look as like just a muscular, slugging brawler,

1092
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: but there's something about his ability to hang in fights

1093
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: and make it difficult for his opposition. Could this be

1094
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: a fight for David Benavitez that catapults him into unification

1095
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 1: with beevall a showdown with better BF. Well, he's got

1096
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: to get through Anthony Yard first. So, Luke, when you

1097
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: look at the road that Yard has taken to get here,

1098
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: what has still out to you as the most impressive

1099
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: to make you believe that he's actually got a shot

1100
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: on Saturday.

1101
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 5: I don't think he has a shot.

1102
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you the odds from DraftKings minus

1103
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: nine hundred Benavidez. Yeah, just five point fifty for Yard.

1104
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, here's the thing, right, So he the

1105
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 5: last win he had over someone with a Wikipedia entry

1106
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 5: was Lyndon Arthur, who he originally lost to. Then he

1107
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 5: was able to avenge it, and then there was a

1108
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 5: rubber match and that was the last one. That was

1109
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: his fourth wind in a row since losing to better BF.

1110
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 5: I thought he gave better beev a tough fight for

1111
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: as long as it lasts, not closer to the end,

1112
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 5: but maybe the first but I don't know what you

1113
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: want to say. Five six rounds, he was kind of

1114
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 5: hanging in there and making him work for it a

1115
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 5: little bit. Got marched down closer to the end there,

1116
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 5: and that was that. You know, I just feel like

1117
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 5: Benavitez is in a bit of a different category. I

1118
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: think the thing that I'm looking at BC is less about,

1119
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 5: you know, who's gonna have the better gas tank down

1120
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 5: the stretch. I think it's gonna be Benavidez, who's got

1121
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: the best I should say, who has fewer miles on them.

1122
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: Yard is kind of no pun intended. BC has kind

1123
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: of been through the hard yards in his career. A

1124
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 5: little bit more to this point. I think you mentioned

1125
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 5: this already, but Yard is what how old is he?

1126
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: Thirty four? Right? And I think he's not over the hill,

1127
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 5: but you know, he's been in some real tough outings

1128
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 5: during the course of his run in a way that

1129
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 5: Benavidez hasn't. Really Benavidez has done a lot more dealing

1130
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 5: and has had a lot I think fewer pressure situations

1131
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 5: that have been put on him. I think that's part

1132
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 5: of it. I think the hand speed for Benavitez and

1133
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: the combination punching is simply going to be much. But

1134
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 5: the issue with Yard is he is big. He's hugely muscular.

1135
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: He looks like a bodybuilder, and you know in boxing

1136
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 5: and clothing so to speak, and I do think can

1137
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: punch and it certainly has great experience BC and I

1138
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 5: think these are the things they're gonna have to make

1139
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 5: Benavidez work for it, especially because there's been a little

1140
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 5: bit of a concern about whether or not Benavidez has

1141
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 5: punching power that's really substantial in this weight class. He

1142
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 5: throws with enough volume and in enough combination where he

1143
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 5: gets guys to just kind of try to find an

1144
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 5: umbrella under the rain, but he looks like he might

1145
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 5: be lacking a little bit at seventy five PC at least,

1146
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 5: there's been some suspicions that he doesn't have the same

1147
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: kind of punching power as he did, you know, back

1148
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 5: at sixty eight. And we get a guy like Yard

1149
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: who is especially big for this weight class, there there

1150
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: there might be some buffer ring in that particular space

1151
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 5: where you know, we don't really know what the answer is,

1152
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 5: but could Yard hang on underneath and then you know,

1153
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 5: find big opportunities certainly seems possible, not very not very

1154
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 5: likely in my estimation, but I think this might be

1155
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 5: some of the places where it's either one or loss.

1156
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: I give it. I'll give you that. I really think

1157
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: the co main event is the main event or the

1158
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: people's main event, as Ariel likes to say, I think

1159
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: this main event is going to be fun. The Benavidez yard,

1160
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna tell us things. Like you mentioned

1161
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: about Benavitez a light heavyweight. Remember he does have two

1162
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: impressive wins in this division, but one came against a

1163
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: former champion. What was that guy's name? Luke just just

1164
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: fell off the side of my head. God, the guy

1165
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: he beat in the PBC card devastic buzz, thank you,

1166
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: the former title holder who's more of a technician but

1167
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: definitely world class. And then he beat David unbeating David

1168
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: Morrell on a light heavyweight bout in which they were

1169
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: both essentially blown up super middleweights. But you've got to

1170
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: give Benavide's credit at twenty eight thirty and Ozero record

1171
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: not being overly focused on waiting in line for Canelo,

1172
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: has moved up to handle his business here at one

1173
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: seventy five. Like I said, this should be if he

1174
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: wins the catapulting fight into either a Bevall or better

1175
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: BEF fight that I'm sure Turkey is going to really

1176
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: showcase and feature on a very high level. But we

1177
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: do need to see him against a legitimate physical light heavyweight,

1178
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: and that's what Yard is. I think the problem with Yard,

1179
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: despite his twenty seven and three record in despite the

1180
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: fact that he did give you know, like we mentioned

1181
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: Cove eleven better be of trouble, is he doesn't have

1182
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: a signature win. I mean that Lyndon Arthur win was

1183
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: a rematch of a split decision loss. He doesn't have

1184
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: a breakthrough win around that. He's really built his reputation

1185
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: on a world level for what he's done in defeat

1186
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: by being durable and by staying dangerous with the power.

1187
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: But that is a test. We need to see Benavita's pass.

1188
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: So let's see the two of these guys show off

1189
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: at a workout so you can see what you're looking at.

1190
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: There there's Benavidez, who look, don't forget he said he's

1191
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna move a cruiserweight and then heavyweight before long, so

1192
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: we don't know how much longer we're gonna see him

1193
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: at light heavyweight. And look at this fellow Yards All

1194
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: that's a Dulla Mason there.

1195
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how that happened. Sorry about that, No.

1196
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: Problem here, we can pull that. But speaking of Canelo, who,

1197
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: let's be fair about breaking news here, Luke. It was

1198
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: reported today that Canelo has said he wants a rematch

1199
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: with Terrence Crawford and that they were currently negotiating that

1200
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: for a twenty twenty six super fight. You'd have to

1201
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: guess it would be on Netflix. He believes he could

1202
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: get you know, he's felt the same way when he

1203
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: lost the Bevall. By the way, here is Jose Benavidez Senior,

1204
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: the father trainer, manager of Benavide's, talking about Canelo's ducky.

1205
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 10: If he faces David, Benavide's guaranteed he's going to go

1206
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 10: to the hospital. Canelo was aboding David for a long,

1207
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 10: long time, five six years. What makes you think that

1208
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 10: he wants to fight David now when he got stronger

1209
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 10: and better in Canelo's declining, You know, the body is

1210
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 10: not the same, the reflex are not the same. I

1211
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 10: think my best advice to Cannelo is, you know, retire,

1212
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 10: you know, because at the end of the day, he's

1213
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 10: done so much for boxing, you know, and the body

1214
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 10: doesn't want to go anymore, you know. I hear that

1215
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 10: they're going to have a second fight with test Crawford.

1216
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 10: I think it's going to be the same thing. TestCraft

1217
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 10: is gonna beat him again, you know, Like I said,

1218
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 10: you know Terros Craffor, I don't think he can hurt Canelo.

1219
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 10: He's a little guy, but I think that the outcome

1220
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 10: is going to be the same. So if he faces

1221
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 10: David Benavidez, guarantee he's going to go to the hospital.

1222
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: Damn. Tough words, right there, Luke. Do you believe you

1223
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: agree with that?

1224
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think that's about right. I mean, it's tough love,

1225
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 5: but it's I didn't no lies detective from me.

1226
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there's love there. Yeah, but I mean

1227
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: you do you not give Canelo a chance to beat Crawford?

1228
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 5: No, No, why would you.

1229
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I love that fight. I do think

1230
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: he can fight.

1231
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 5: You seriously, you want to see that ship?

1232
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: I know.

1233
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's my first. No, I would rather

1234
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: see Crawford look to become the undisputed middleweight champion. But

1235
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand it. No, I don't want that.

1236
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 5: Look, see, I overstand you understand.

1237
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: Here's the That fight was closer than people. Remember, That's

1238
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1239
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 5: Okay, on the judge's scorecards, not in actuality.

1240
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: Did Crawford overwhelmingly show that he was the better fighter

1241
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: in that fight. Ultimately, yes, but it came through close

1242
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: rounds and in some challenge. Can Canelo do better than that?

1243
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: Did he underestimate Crawford? I think if he comes back

1244
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: and looks to make it a real fight, like fight

1245
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: him full on Mexican style, not try to box him,

1246
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: not try to you know, then it's a different fight.

1247
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: Then we It could be exciting. I don't know. I'm

1248
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to talk myself into it. Maybe not.

1249
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

1250
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Look, if Benavida stops yard, he makes a big statement

1251
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: either way. He needs to win here to step up

1252
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: to an even bigger fight to where we really find

1253
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: out where he's at in this division. Let's talk about

1254
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: this co main event. Oh my god, is it awesome.

1255
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: Brian Norman Junior, the unbeaten American, the welterweight title holder,

1256
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: one of the more underrated fighters in this entire sport.

1257
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: He is the WBO strap. He's twenty four years old

1258
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: out of Greater Atlanta, twenty eight and oh twenty two KOs.

1259
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: But he's stepped up, undoubtedly to the toughest challenge of

1260
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: his career to date in Devin Haney. It's why Norman

1261
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: opened as a betting favorite. It's why it has closed

1262
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: to the point where it's basically a pickum right now

1263
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: on DraftKings minus one ten for Hani, minus one ten

1264
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: for Norman. I saw last night Norman was a slight, slight,

1265
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: slight betting favorite all that they were both in the minus. Here, Luke,

1266
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: this is a great matchup of the power of Norman

1267
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: and the slickness the boxing skills of Devin Haney. But

1268
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: let's not act like two things that are going contrast

1269
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: to each other that are but are both true. Number One,

1270
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: Devin Haney doesn't really have a huge track record in

1271
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: this division. He lost to a routed up in crazy

1272
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia in a fight that's now a no contest.

1273
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: He yeah out boxed Jose Ramirez in Times Square, but

1274
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: took the least path of full the full path of

1275
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: caution is possib But simultaneously he's one of the best,

1276
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: most skilled pump for pound fighters on the planet. Even

1277
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: if people don't like the way he reacted to the

1278
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia fight with the lawsuit. In all of that,

1279
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: I can't figure out who's gonna win this Because there's

1280
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: times you feel like, you know what, Norman's a guy

1281
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: you don't mess with. If Haine doesn't have the power

1282
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: in resistance at one seven against a true welterweight slugger,

1283
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna have issues. Then the other side of me

1284
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: remembers just how skilled Haine is. Where are you leaning

1285
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: right now in terms of how you feel narrative wise,

1286
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: who has the edge coming into this matchup when you

1287
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: look at their two skills and the sort of narrative

1288
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: surrounding both.

1289
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 5: Do we have the video of the face off?

1290
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you grabbed that.

1291
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: Luke, damn it. There's a face off between them at

1292
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 5: what was it the media day or with the press workout? Yeah,

1293
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 5: press confor whatever it was. It was some kind of

1294
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 5: media event between them. There was a bunch of stuff

1295
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 5: I wanted to pick BC of Ian Norman and Bill

1296
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 5: Haney arguing, but there was constant rap music playing in

1297
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 5: the background of the video which would get it flagged

1298
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 5: and so I couldn't include it. Unfortunately. Uh, I'll say this, BC,

1299
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 5: there are a lot of people who don't know who

1300
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 5: Brian Norman Junior is, and there are a lot of

1301
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 5: people who may have seen his highlight over Jin Sasaki

1302
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 5: where he the guy goes for a sort of a

1303
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 5: dipping jab and then comes back up and Norman just

1304
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 5: greets him with a gigantic leap, almost like a gazelle

1305
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 5: punch from Hagler knocks him out cold in a single shot.

1306
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 5: Like it was absolutely brutal. We had him on the

1307
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 5: show here, Brian Norman not long after that feat. He

1308
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 5: was great, fantastic guy born my sophomore year of college.

1309
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we're old, all right. But the point

1310
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 5: I want to make is BC, I don't know that

1311
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 5: he's got the track record in terms of elite opponents

1312
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: that Devin Haney does. And Devin Haney you can say

1313
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 5: he shouldn't have deserved. He didn't deserve to beat Lomachenko,

1314
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: but you know he gave Lomachenko, I thought a credible

1315
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 5: effort in that fight. At a bare minimum. Certainly you

1316
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 5: can score for him too. The one I'm trying to

1317
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 5: make though, is if it was just down to that,

1318
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 5: I would be like, well, Hani's better. But there's two problems.

1319
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 5: As you indicated, won the weight class, right, I just

1320
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 5: don't know exactly hany for his part from what I've

1321
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 5: seen during fight week looks to be in incredible shape.

1322
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 5: We'll see what that means. But there's still some mystery there. Two,

1323
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 5: and this is the big one to me, he might

1324
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 5: be damaged goods. He might be damaged goods. That left

1325
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 5: hook assault in the Ryan Garcia fight just leaves questions

1326
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 5: about one his technical preparedness and then two what it

1327
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 5: actually did to him, because in his comeback fight in

1328
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 5: Times Square, let's just be honest, he didn't look great.

1329
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 5: He looked flat. He got the job done, but he looks.

1330
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he looked flat. I just thought he

1331
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: looked completely unwilling to engage with an aging former champion

1332
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: who was there to be hit by him.

1333
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 5: Fine, that's a better way to put it. Flat Maybe

1334
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 5: isn't the right word. Yours is better description. But he

1335
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 5: didn't look how about this. He did not look especially

1336
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 5: potent offensively to me, and he didn't look like he

1337
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 5: was willing to be in that line of fire as

1338
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 5: you described in ways that he previously had, which two

1339
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 5: degrees understandable given what he was up against. But I'm

1340
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 5: just pointing it out. But Brian Norman looks like calm, composed,

1341
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 5: ready to go in the zone. In the moment just

1342
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 5: sharp as attack. BC. And there's this face off they

1343
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 5: have where Brian Norman doesn't move and Devin Haney is

1344
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 5: doing I don't know, fortnight dances in his face. How

1345
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 5: would you describe that, BC?

1346
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean like we used to say about Holly

1347
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: Holm having nervous energy, where when you see her in

1348
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: face off, you know, even the Rondo one where now

1349
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: in hindsight we look at Ronda being you know, trying

1350
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: to make herself psych herself up that oh she looks nervous.

1351
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: I can't figure out here if this is just nervous

1352
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: energy from hay NEI to fire himself up, or if

1353
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: this constant, weird movement in the face off is telling

1354
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: because every time Norman is in a room with Haney,

1355
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: he looks at him as if that's his next meal.

1356
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he looks at him like he's looking at lunch.

1357
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 5: And the other part too is BC and I you know,

1358
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: take this for what it is worth, which maybe is nothing. However,

1359
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: just kind of scanning what like people I would consider

1360
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 5: to be boxing heads on social media are saying they're

1361
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 5: all kind of creeping on a come up here. They

1362
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 5: all kind of feel like Brian Norman's about to surprise

1363
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 5: the world. There is clear chatter that they think this

1364
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 5: is his breakout party, and again take that for what

1365
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 5: it is worth. But insiders seem to think that Brian

1366
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 5: Norman might have a big day tomorrow.

1367
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: It's tough to figure out, man, I mean, Brian Norman

1368
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: has not fought somebody on this level. Can Haney prove

1369
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: at welterweight against a guy who is going to be there,

1370
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: is going to be in his face, that physically he

1371
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: can handle it. Let's hear from Devin Haney talking specifically

1372
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: about why he moved up to one four seven.

1373
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 11: Just more of my not yourself, more of you know

1374
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 11: who I really am, and in passplight, you guys see me,

1375
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 11: you know what, as a more of a shell of

1376
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 11: myself because you know, I wish killing myself to make

1377
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 11: the waves. I feel a lot better, I feel a

1378
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 11: lot stronger, and I'm excited for it.

1379
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: Look I'm I'm I actually believe him on those statements.

1380
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: Yes, like I didn't.

1381
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: I didn't love his unwillingness to fight with Jose Ramirez,

1382
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: who is kind of passed it. I thought that could

1383
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: have been a huge showcase for HAINI yet I saw

1384
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: that physically speed wise moving all that was there. I mean,

1385
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: I know how good he is. I'm seeing this more often,

1386
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Islam moving up and then you

1387
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: see suddenly he's got this gas to wrestle for five

1388
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: rounds or Roley talking about at you know, one thirty

1389
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: one or one thirty five and forty. Those weight cuts

1390
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: left him without punch resistance and he didn't look the same.

1391
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,959
Speaker 1: Then he moves up against welterweight in a weird fight

1392
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: against Ryan Garcia. But he's a different fighter. I wonder

1393
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: if that plays into this, whether people are just really

1394
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: overlooking how skilled Devin really is and now full dehydrated

1395
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: or close enough, will we see a different type of fighter.

1396
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Norman is scary. Here's Brian Norman with

1397
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: a cold assessment of the game.

1398
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 7: If my last opponent could do the same thing to me,

1399
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 7: I bet he will have. If he can knock six

1400
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 7: weeks out of me and out of my memory, things

1401
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 7: of that nature, I'm ten times out of ten, I

1402
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 7: bet he will have. So really, there's no remorse in

1403
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 7: this game. It's a cold game. It's the cold world,

1404
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 7: and that's the beauty of it. All really the powers

1405
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 7: in your hands, as in yo, whatever you want to

1406
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 7: do tomorrow matters today. You take control. So I can't

1407
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 7: hold myself back because of somebody else, because I know

1408
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 7: for a fact, if they had the opportunity, they don't

1409
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 7: care if I die. Of course they'll come on these

1410
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 7: cameras and say, man, I feel so sorry for him.

1411
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 7: I feel so bad for him, But guess what day

1412
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 7: life goes on. I'm dead and gone, just that easy,

1413
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 7: just that quick. So hey, it is what it is.

1414
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 7: I got to go out here and get money.

1415
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: Dude, he's so easy to like. Seriously, he's cold direct,

1416
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: he's twenty four.

1417
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: I've seen the fact that Jin Sasaki had weeks of

1418
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 5: his memory taken from him by virtue of the ko

1419
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 5: that Brian Norman laid on him. That's what they're reacting to.

1420
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of perfect. Brian Norman looks like

1421
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: a potential great we just haven't seen him prove it yet,

1422
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: so we really don't know exactly how great he is.

1423
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: Whereas Devin Haney, I think people are labeling as damage

1424
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: goods where I'm here to tell you, Luke, ultimately, I

1425
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: don't believe that Devin Haney is damage goods. I think

1426
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: it's somewhat similar to that you know saying in baseball

1427
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: that great pitching will always be great hitting. I feel

1428
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,480
Speaker 1: that about the highest levels in boxing, where great defense

1429
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: and great technical skills and movement can ultimately be exciting

1430
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 1: young power. But somebody who hasn't fought somebody this good yet.

1431
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: Even with the questions about Hani in this division, I

1432
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,560
Speaker 1: can't not from a betting standpoint, I can not not not.

1433
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: I can't do anything but put money behind Haney, the

1434
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: more proven product. I want to see how he looks

1435
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: in a tough fight at this way lass without having

1436
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: to cut down. I actually think this has all the

1437
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: potential for Devin Haney. At times he's gonna have to avoid, Yes,

1438
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: he's fighting a killer in there. He's gonna have to

1439
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: do some avoidance movement all that. But I think he's

1440
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna showcase, showcase his skills and talent against Norman.

1441
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 5: I like Norman to win, fuck it to finally we

1442
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 5: finally we break apart. I'm gonna. I hated what I

1443
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 5: saw from Hany in his last fight, to the point

1444
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 5: you wreck, you bring up there's a lot that's unknown

1445
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 5: about Brian Norman on this stage, the bright lights, the

1446
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 5: whole nine yard nine yards, excuse me, and I hate

1447
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 5: that both of them have very loud dads. Yes, but

1448
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 5: at the same time, Brian Norman is on one right

1449
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 5: now in a good way, and I'm gonna take a

1450
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 5: flyer on him.

1451
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Look, we might it might be in the situation where

1452
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: he just hasn't gotten those names yet, but he gets

1453
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: in there, he shows he's a killer. Hany though in

1454
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: sick shape.

1455
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,919
Speaker 5: Luca amazing, amazing, amazing. He's always been in good shape,

1456
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 5: but it's even another degree or two from even some

1457
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 5: of his better.

1458
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 1: And he's a weird dude in all that. I'm not

1459
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: going to deny that he's not always overly likable, but

1460
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 1: people I think have always slept on just how skilled

1461
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: he is.

1462
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 5: I mean, this isn't insane that Ryan Garcia was having

1463
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 5: a manic episode saying the most insanely racist things you've

1464
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 5: ever seen in your life. Clearly cheated in numerous ways

1465
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: prior to that fight. Haney did underperform, obviously, and then

1466
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 5: had to be the most hated man in boxing for

1467
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 5: a year.

1468
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm not that I got caught

1469
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: up in that but you know what, I'm starting to realize, Luke,

1470
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it was really as much of a

1471
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: even though he was getting hit with the same punch

1472
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: against Garcia at the time, I'm like, how is a

1473
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: fighter in hany who's this defensively responsible, this technical, this

1474
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: much of a great athlete. How is he getting hit

1475
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: with the same damn punch over and over again. I'm like,

1476
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: there must be a defensive hole. I'm not wondering if

1477
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: just the you know, the peds and the craziness made Ryan,

1478
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: who's already one of the most athletic and as one

1479
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: of the quickest, most dangerous left hooks in the game,

1480
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: was just that much more insane with it, considering the

1481
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: drugs in what was going on.

1482
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 5: Let me say this, I don't want to speak for him,

1483
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 5: so I haven't heard his breakdown of this fight, but

1484
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: you know one of my favorite you know, you guys

1485
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 5: know I love any Paz from Jedi Mind Tricks. He

1486
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 5: has a boxing podcast called Knock Him Out the Box.

1487
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 5: And again, I don't know what they said on this podcast,

1488
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 5: but I know in previous fights BC and by the way,

1489
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 5: he is a believer. If my memory is correct, that

1490
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 5: Lomachenko did not lose to Haney, and that he thinks

1491
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 5: that Haney is a good fighter. He doesn't bag on Haney,

1492
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 5: he's not insulting to him, but he doesn't necessarily buy

1493
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 5: the idea that Hany is one of these guys that's

1494
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 5: like destined for boxing greatness. And in fact, I think

1495
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 5: he's very skeptical of that claim. If his assessment and

1496
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 5: he's got you know, pretty good boxing knowledge, I would say,

1497
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 5: if that assessment is correct and he's really not that guy,

1498
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 5: then you know, I think what you're gonna see is

1499
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 5: Brian Norman potentially go to work. Now again, who knows.

1500
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 5: I'm not a boxing officionado. We'll have to see. I'm

1501
01:11:58,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: just trying to point out. This is what I mean

1502
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 5: when I say, like, what do people who really pay

1503
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 5: attention to boxing think? They think that Hani might be

1504
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:06,879
Speaker 5: in for some trouble on Saturday?

1505
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: And Alix Sean Porter has gone on record like crazy

1506
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: saying Hani's damage good, he's good, He's gonna get blown out.

1507
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean it might not be her. Look, the history

1508
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: of Hani, in terms of facing a real puncher and

1509
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: being in tough moments is not always great. There was

1510
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: the Lenaris at the end of the fight. In Lenari's

1511
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: fight where he got hurt and was basically running the

1512
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: final rounds. Of course, there was the Garcia fight, but

1513
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: he did keep getting up against Garcia, and again I'm

1514
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: wondering what those weight cuts did to his durability. Hey,

1515
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna find it out on Saturday, luke quickly. On

1516
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: those other two fights, they are top shelf. I really

1517
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: want people to realize this. Jesse Bam Rodriguez, the young

1518
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: pound for pound top ten or from San Antonio, will

1519
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: enter a unification fight at super flyweight against a very

1520
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: very tough out in Argentina's Fernando Puma Martinez. The odds

1521
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: won't tell you the real story on this fight, as

1522
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: it's minus eleven hundred for Bam plus six point fifty

1523
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: for Martinez, but you could argue from a hard core

1524
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: standpoint that this fight is almost as good as Hani

1525
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: versus Norman. Both are unbeat and it's a very very

1526
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: very real fight. Whoma Martinez thirty four years old, eighteen

1527
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: and oh does not have the power of Bam and

1528
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: that's probably the ultimately the difference here in the odds,

1529
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: but has faced very good competition twice beat Sherwin Ankaijas

1530
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: twice beat Kazudo Ioka. This is a real showdown down

1531
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: there at super flyweight that can't be missed and Luke

1532
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: House excited. Are you to see your guy Abdullah Mason

1533
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: step up to the title level here for a vacant

1534
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: belt against Sam Noakes and Mason is nineteen and oh

1535
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: this is for the WBO lightweight title, the one of

1536
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: course that Keishan Davis was forced to vacate here. This

1537
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: is also a very interesting clash, but I do think

1538
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: more suited for Abdullah to show us exactly who he

1539
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: is and maybe even show off in this one.

1540
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is one of the ones I want to

1541
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 5: see him take his time. That's what I kind of

1542
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 5: want to see because usually he just blows of doors

1543
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 5: off of people. I'd like to see him again. There's

1544
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 5: such a difference to be seen with people. Oh so

1545
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 5: and so won fast, that's great. Winning fast is important.

1546
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 5: Can you win fast and methodically, not just like I'm

1547
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 5: just gonna do my thing and let it go and

1548
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 5: let it rip and then see what happens. Nah nah,

1549
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 5: Methodically that's what I want to see. So we'll see

1550
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 5: how it goes. Four year old question for you, question

1551
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 5: for you? Yeah, are these events overlapping in time because

1552
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 5: they are taking place essentially in the same region.

1553
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: So I've seen that the cutter main card for UFC

1554
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: will begin at one pm Eastern, and I've seen that

1555
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: the main card for boxing will begin, I think at

1556
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: four pm Eastern, and I saw Coppinger tweet that the

1557
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: main event walks are expected around seven pm, so maybe not.

1558
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 5: They might not overlap.

1559
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: There's gonna be no overlap of these like main four

1560
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 2: boxing fights. There might be overlap. Are there fights before

1561
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 2: these four?

1562
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a prelim card.

1563
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. So there that might overlap because

1564
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: I saw coverage starts at three thirty Eastern, but I

1565
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 2: saw the first like Abdullah Mason's ring walk was like

1566
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: six thirty Eastern or something.

1567
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1568
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: So then by the way speak the Mason fight is

1569
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: the odds are closer than the others minus three point fifty.

1570
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: Mason for the plus two sixty Oaks was seventeen and

1571
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: oh fighting out of the UK, but not a killer.

1572
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 1: I think Mason gets this done, but we gotta see that.

1573
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: And I do think by the way Bam gets it done.

1574
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that's a real fight right there.

1575
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: All right, all you people that hey boxing. Let's get

1576
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: into topic number three, back to the MMA side. We're

1577
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 1: talking about UFC President Dana White, who went on the

1578
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: Flagrant Podcast where he discussed many issues, not the least

1579
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: of which is his ongoing feud with one Francis Enganu.

1580
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: Dana would claim that in Ghana once put his hands

1581
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: on Dana in the UFC offices, and this sound, this

1582
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: accusation was so huge that in so spicy. Yeah, you

1583
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: know what's coming. We got to call our friends over

1584
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: there at Cuervo for a little something that we like

1585
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: to call shots fire. SHOT's fire, brought to you by Quervo.

1586
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: Now is a good time to enjoy the tequila that

1587
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: invented tequila. Let's hear from Dana White.

1588
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 9: I guess the one I will tell you is, you know,

1589
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 9: everybody has this thing about Francis and Gania. Francis and

1590
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 9: Ganya is a bad guy. He's not a good guy.

1591
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 9: He plays the whole dud. I don't understand the language.

1592
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 9: And he tries to come off like he's a fucking

1593
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 9: nice guy. You know, what I mean, and people doll

1594
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 9: wrot the language barrier probably now there's no there's no

1595
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 9: fucking language barrier with this guy.

1596
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 5: He's a bad guy.

1597
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,560
Speaker 9: And I told my guys, you know, I wanted to

1598
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 9: cut him early, and two of my matchmaker guys will go, oh, no,

1599
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 9: you don't understand, said, guys, let me tell you a story.

1600
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 9: When somebody shows you who they are, believe them, believe them.

1601
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 9: And this guy has shown so he's going in to

1602
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 9: fight Steve A. Miochich in Boston and he knows he's

1603
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 9: gonna fucking kill Steepe right, So after the press conference, uh,

1604
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 9: we're walking down this hallway and he comes over me

1605
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 9: and he grabs me and he says, uh, let me

1606
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 9: tell you what's gonna happen because English is fucking great. Okay,

1607
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 9: no language barrier whatsoever. When this fight's over, they're gonna

1608
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 9: book me a private plane to Paris. And uh, I said,

1609
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 9: I laughed, So yeah, he goes, I'm not joking. You're

1610
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 9: gonna book me a private plane Paris. So okay, so

1611
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 9: we go around ways, step Amochi beats the fucking shit

1612
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 9: out of him. So that ended that whole conversation and

1613
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 9: he had just fought, and he comes up to my

1614
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 9: office and uh, you know, he's in the hallway or whatever,

1615
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 9: hanging I and I said, come on, what's what's going on?

1616
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 9: And he was pissed off that he didn't get a

1617
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 9: fifty thousand dollars bonus uh in his in his last fight,

1618
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 9: that he didn't get the bonus of the night. And

1619
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 9: I said, whoa, Francis, you didn't get it because this that.

1620
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 9: And he's in my office and he's arguing with me,

1621
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 9: and I'm like, yeah, this guy got this, this guy

1622
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 9: got that, and this is why the conversation's over. I'm

1623
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 9: starting to leave and he grabs me by my shirt fuck,

1624
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 9: and like pushes me back in my office and I said, dude,

1625
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 9: get your fucking hands off me.

1626
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: Those were the words came Francis and grabbed you by

1627
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: the shirt. Yeah, So, Luke, let me frame it like this.

1628
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: To be fair, we did take Francis's side in the

1629
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: Dana Great Dana debate, and I think from the clues

1630
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: we had rightfully so. And I do think Francis has

1631
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: an incredible story crawling through the Shawshank, you know, crap

1632
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,879
Speaker 1: tunnel to get out of his contract and to secure

1633
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: what he was looking for freedom, big time money, he

1634
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: went over to boxing. But maybe we've been souring a

1635
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: bit of late from PFL, accusing Francis of not doing

1636
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: what they expected for everything that they gave him, the

1637
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: fact that he's only fought for PFL once in like

1638
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: the three years since he's been there. What do you

1639
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: make of Dana White's story? And do you believe it's

1640
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: time to consider that to some degree, not that we

1641
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: were wrong on Francis or just that we didn't have

1642
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: all the info or how about it, we were wrong

1643
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: and that Francis is maybe a less reputable character. Then

1644
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: his origin story seems to create this you know, hero

1645
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: myth around him.

1646
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: We were wrong about Francis in what way.

1647
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: We did frame him? I mean, I don't know the guy, right,

1648
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: We framed him as this great guy.

1649
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 5: Have you have you interviewed him before?

1650
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I think he's a very polite and.

1651
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've interviewed him, I think one, maybe two times

1652
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 5: something like that.

1653
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: I've interviewed him a bunch yet.

1654
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 5: I mean, here's my point, Okay, I cannot imagine a

1655
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 5: character assessment less interesting or relevant than one given by

1656
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 5: MMA or boxing promoter. I mean, I just can't. I mean,

1657
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 5: who on earth would treat that as like some kind

1658
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 5: of illuminating character assessment. I mean you're talking about I mean,

1659
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 5: he calls he calls Francis a bad guy. It's like, dude,

1660
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 5: you got a lot of bad guys on that roster

1661
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 5: and you do business with him. You've got guys on

1662
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 5: the roster who have to get ankle monitors removed by

1663
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 5: a judge so they can show up to fights. You've

1664
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 5: got guys who, in major headline news, were adjudicated civilly

1665
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 5: to be liable for the sexual assault of various victims,

1666
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 5: and when asked about it, treated it as if you know,

1667
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: he couldn't couldn't imagine a more irrelevant question. They continue

1668
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 5: to do business with them, I mean I could go on.

1669
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 5: I mean, they just they're probably gonna sign Gable steveson

1670
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 5: who you know, if you've never looked into the stories

1671
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 5: about how he avoided issues in Minnesota due to a

1672
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 5: loophole that is now since been closed related to sexual

1673
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 5: assault at least allege, I should say go take a look.

1674
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he's got any kind of a problem

1675
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 5: doing business with bad guys and More to the point,

1676
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 5: even if he says it's a bad guy. I mean,

1677
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 5: can you imagine, b C. I made this point in

1678
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 5: my life shot. Can you imagine like someone like Oscar

1679
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 5: de la Hoya trying to be like a character witness

1680
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 5: for or against somebody like, Oh, Oscar says that guy

1681
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 5: over there is a scumbag who cares? Who cares? Like

1682
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 5: Oscar's assessment of this is irrelevant, It doesn't mean anything. Now,

1683
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 5: that's not me saying that Dana White is lying. I

1684
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 5: don't know if Dana White is lying, And in fact,

1685
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 5: we see what I can also say, and I think

1686
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 5: you'd probably agree if someone came to you with like

1687
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 5: a blind test and they were like, hey, an MMA

1688
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 5: fighter did this to Dana, do you find that plausible? Sure? Sure,

1689
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 5: I find that plausible. This world is filled with people

1690
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 5: who will do things like that. Whether Francis did or didn't,

1691
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 5: I don't know. And I'm not in any way suggesting

1692
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 5: that Dana is lying to the world. I don't know

1693
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 5: that either. It could very well be true that he

1694
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 5: did it. We will have to see. That's the first point.

1695
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 5: But the real point is it doesn't like the taking

1696
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 5: what a what a combat sports promoter says, at face

1697
01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 5: value is in every case Bob Aram, Dana White, Don King,

1698
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 5: Gary Shaw, whoever is a bad idea, just don't do it.

1699
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 5: That's the second part three. He's not a bad guy

1700
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 5: for exercising the rights and maximizing his value. Like if

1701
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 5: he's a bad guy because he put his hands on Dana, fine, fine,

1702
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 5: that's got nothing to do with him being that, and

1703
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 5: again kept him under roster long after that in order

1704
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 5: to continue to do business with him, because hello, they

1705
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 5: do business with people of ill repute in in MMA,

1706
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 5: in this organization. And so what I would say is,

1707
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 5: let's see what Francis has to say. Let's not take

1708
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 5: assessments from Fight for Motors at face value. And even

1709
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 5: if it's true on that particular level, which again it

1710
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 5: very well might be, that's a separate consideration about whether

1711
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 5: or not was it appropriate for him to seek out

1712
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 5: the maximization of his value in the way which he did.

1713
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 5: You can like or you can hate that fact, But

1714
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 5: does that make him a villain that act that those

1715
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 5: kinds of efforts. Of course it doesn't. It's a silly

1716
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 5: thing to suggest as much. So my view is it

1717
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 5: could very well be true, but we have to parse

1718
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,679
Speaker 5: what parts of that could be true and what parts

1719
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 5: of that are even relevant to the questions of how

1720
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 5: he got sideways with Dana after that.

1721
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: It's fair I always assume that Dana hated him because,

1722
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: out of the typical fighter response, he seemed to exercise

1723
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: his potential leverage so aggressively. Remember that that stretch that

1724
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: he's talking about where Francis lost to Steepe. Then he,

1725
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, Dana would go publicly before the Derek Lewis

1726
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: fight for Francis and say, Francis isn't the guy we

1727
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: thought he was. He's all into material things like cars,

1728
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: He's not you know whatever. Then he has that performance

1729
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: injured against their Lewis and one of the worst fights

1730
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: of all time loses. Dana blames everything on him. Then

1731
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: it felt like they froze him out of the title

1732
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: picture for a while, and he didn't get an interim

1733
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: title shot when he maybe should have. I mean, I

1734
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 1: thought all that stuff. In the end, Francis was right.

1735
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: Dana was just upset. Someone was trying to push it.

1736
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: But if this story is true, Luke, it would change that,

1737
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 1: and maybe that explains why Dana's hatred seems to consistently

1738
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 1: be so aggressive toward him. I don't know. I just

1739
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: wonder if the recent stuff from PFL, I don't know.

1740
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody, listen, maybe listen, dude. Look again, it's like,

1741
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 5: maybe he's selfish, maybe he's you know, maybe he's maybe

1742
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 5: he's a bully, but.

1743
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: He's not wearing a LoJack to the cage. Is your point?

1744
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: I get that, you know what I mean?

1745
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there's nothing you could tell me about

1746
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 5: the malfeasance of a potential MMA fighter doing something and

1747
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 5: I'd be like, wow, that makes no sense. You know,

1748
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 5: of course, and we don't know. Francis like, this could

1749
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 5: all be true. I'm just trying to say, take those

1750
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 5: issues for what they are. If they are true, then

1751
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 5: then that's one part. But the exercising of value in

1752
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 5: getting trying to get the most amount of money, that's

1753
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 5: his job to himself. And again, in the process of

1754
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 5: doing that, did he do things that were potentially you know,

1755
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 5: not not illegal, but you know, done in bad faith

1756
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 5: or negligently. Yeah, that could be true too. I just

1757
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 5: want to make sure make the argument about what it

1758
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 5: is if he's a bad person because he puts hands

1759
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 5: on people. Fine, fine, but that has nothing to do

1760
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 5: with maximizing value in contract disputes. Very different.

1761
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 1: What do you think John Jones would say if Dana

1762
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: pulled the one eighty and said we're signing Francis If

1763
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: that was even possible, I don't know contractually. And the

1764
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: White House car sorry, Tom, the White House fight that

1765
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: we really want is Francis and Gano versus John Jones.

1766
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: Does John go back and die? Look, because that's a legend,

1767
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: right he said? Tom's not a legend. That's why I'll

1768
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: give up the thirty million not to fight him. But

1769
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Poeton is my resume need that he wouldn't.

1770
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 5: I think John will just say whatever he needs to

1771
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 5: say to get whatever he wants. And I don't know

1772
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 5: what he wants other than I think he wants to

1773
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 5: do what Mayweather did, which is fight like Andre Berto

1774
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: on his way out the door and get a.

1775
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: Big check to clothes on Dana Luke, he was wearing

1776
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 1: that black polo with the white writing that he wears

1777
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: like almost as much as you of that red and

1778
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: black right there. Do you think he has one of

1779
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 1: those or like fifty of those in his closet?

1780
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I definitely think he's got more

1781
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 5: than one. How about that. I'll take the over. If

1782
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 5: that's the line, I'll take the over.

1783
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Dana's been showing us who he is for years. Luke,

1784
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: I believe him. I really do, ultimately, you know what

1785
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I believe Yeah. All right, Hey, speaking

1786
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: of Cuervo, and now's a good time to remember where

1787
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: tequila's story truly began. How about a history lesson. In

1788
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,600
Speaker 1: seventeen ninety five, Quervo invented tequila, and since then, you

1789
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 1: better believe that Quervo has stayed true to its roots.

1790
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: Same family, same land, same passion. Two hundred and thirty

1791
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: years later, Cuervo is still right here and every pore

1792
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: and every margarito or three and every celebration. So enjoy

1793
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: the tequila that it started at all Quervo, the tequila

1794
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 1: that invented tequila. Proximoquervo dot com. Please drink responsibly and

1795
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: LT you and I always have fun drinking responsibly. At

1796
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Morning Combat UFC pregame preview and with three twenty three

1797
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: on the horizon, Saturday December sixth, in Las Vegas, we

1798
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 1: will be having our next pregame preview that week Monday,

1799
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: January twenty first, Live in the middle, December December first,

1800
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: Sorry I read it wrong. Monday December first, eleven am Eastern,

1801
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: Live in the Meadow Larks Studios in Manhattan. It's ELT,

1802
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: It's BC, and it's Jed Meshu. Number two breaking down

1803
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: three twenty three with some chasers, maybe some Devil's reserve

1804
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of quervo to go around for everybody.

1805
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 5: Let's bang, let's eat chowder.

1806
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: All right, better call y'all. We did, we did, Okay,

1807
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: we did for that one, Thank you very much. Let's

1808
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: go to topic number four. Ben Vickers, the head coach

1809
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: a former Wealth Which champion Jack Della Maddelena, spoke to

1810
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 1: our friend Dennis at Submission Radio, and while Vickers made

1811
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: no excuses for Dela Madeleina's title loss to Islamahachev at

1812
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: UFC three twenty two last Saturday, he did say the

1813
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: issue was not the game plan and they'd use that

1814
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: game plan again. First, let's hear from coach Ben Vickers.

1815
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Then we'll get Luke Thomas to respond.

1816
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 12: The game plan was movement, but I feel like we

1817
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 12: never got the movement going. We had sort of roots

1818
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 12: to the feet on the floor. But for whatever reason,

1819
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 12: we couldn't start executing and getting to the first point

1820
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 12: of those routes. Just Islam did such a good job.

1821
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 12: And I don't want to go too much into the

1822
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 12: game plan because it is a game plan we'll use again.

1823
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't think there was an issue with

1824
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 12: the game plan, just the execution. But yeah, definitely more movement.

1825
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 12: We wanted to do more movement.

1826
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 2: Obviously.

1827
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,719
Speaker 12: We didn't want to be on a ground for nineteen

1828
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 12: minutes of a twenty five minute flight. We wanted to

1829
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 12: do some damage. I wanted to death by a thousand cuts,

1830
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,560
Speaker 12: you know, like just pick away on the outside and

1831
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 12: blah blah blah.

1832
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: But it just wasn't our mind, Luke, Does that make

1833
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: Does that add up to you?

1834
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 5: It does? Actually, Yeah, I have a video. I have

1835
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 5: to record it, well, the second half of it, after

1836
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 5: the show, and so it'll be up on my personal

1837
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 5: YouTube channel. I think at some point this afternoon, basically

1838
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 5: I did a I got a breakdown BC. I was

1839
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 5: trying to answer this question of like, hey, is Islam,

1840
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 5: is it fair to call Islam boring? I didn't find

1841
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 5: him boring, You didn't find him boring, but I did

1842
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 5: kind of see a lot of belly aching about it

1843
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 5: and to what extent is that fair? And I was

1844
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 5: trying to also answer this question of to what extent

1845
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 5: was Islam JDM similar. We talked about it on Monday

1846
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 5: to DDP homside and I went kind of through what

1847
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 5: the tape showed, and I was like trying to explain

1848
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 5: to people, like, like, look at how the basic point was,

1849
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 5: look at how squirmy underneath JDM is this is gonna

1850
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 5: It's a very different kind of threat than what you

1851
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 5: saw with DDP, who had his guard passed immediately, where

1852
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 5: Hamzak could get mount almost immediately, could park inside control

1853
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 5: for as long as he wanted, you know it, could

1854
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 5: get the back and there was nothing that DDP was

1855
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 5: doing in terms of building height or you know, just

1856
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 5: basic kinds of defense. He was just kind of surviving

1857
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 5: in the most you know, just truly like there was

1858
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 5: not much technical about it. And my point was that

1859
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 5: was not the case with JDM. You saw a little

1860
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 5: bit more underneath. But there are moments in that fight,

1861
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 5: particularly in round three, at the end of the round

1862
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 5: he passes jdm's guard, and there's moments where he looks

1863
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 5: like he is very much setting up to pass, and

1864
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 5: you can see moments where JDM is trying to reguard.

1865
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 5: Now why do I bring this up? Because I put

1866
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 5: the video out and then someone sent me a link

1867
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 5: to I guess Craig Jones has like a like a

1868
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 5: well known, you know, troll account, but he's not trolling.

1869
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 5: He was actually just talking about the fight, and in

1870
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 5: it he was saying what they wanted. They did not

1871
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 5: want to spend time in half guard and maybe a

1872
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: little bit of Nie shield, but there was a problem

1873
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 5: with that and the goal was to get Islam to

1874
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 5: try to pass. And I'm like, well, that doesn't make

1875
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 5: sense because the tape is I mean, you could clearly

1876
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 5: see on tape he's trying to prevent it and then

1877
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 5: using an active half guard at times, So like, what's

1878
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 5: the contradiction here? And you know, I did a little

1879
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 5: research and I talked to a couple of other Black

1880
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 5: Belts that I know, and they didn't exactly say this,

1881
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 5: but I'm kind of piecing it together, which was it

1882
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 5: just seems to me BC that Jack got lost in

1883
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 5: there a little bit, where at times what they wanted

1884
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 5: was to bait the pass because what you really wanted

1885
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 5: from Jack was for Jack to go belly down, right.

1886
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 5: He wanted to go belly down because if he can

1887
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 5: go belly down, he's got two on one. He can

1888
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 5: go belly down. That's how you start the true escape,

1889
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 5: because you build to your knees and you can then

1890
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 5: get up and go, and you've already they've got no grip,

1891
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 5: so like, what's holding you, right, there's no grip, You're

1892
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 5: on your knees.

1893
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Just go.

1894
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 5: And you saw him do this as a matter of fact,

1895
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 5: against Bala Muhammad. He did it quite successfully, but he

1896
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 5: couldn't quite get it going against Islam, and part of

1897
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 5: what happened was Islam was turking the bottom leg. That

1898
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 5: means Islam was from half guard or even nie shield

1899
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 5: using his leg to scoop the bottom leg of a JDM,

1900
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 5: and he couldn't turn. He got kind of stuck in

1901
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 5: those spots. And I think because he was getting stuck

1902
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,600
Speaker 5: b see, he then kind of resorted to this confused

1903
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 5: game plan where some of the time he's doing what

1904
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 5: he's supposed to be doing and then other times he's

1905
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 5: just resorting back to like what he knew. And it

1906
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 5: was this total like there was no application of this

1907
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 5: game plan that I think that they had come up with. Now, again,

1908
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 5: I wasn't in their strategy meetings. I don't exactly know

1909
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 5: what they were talking about. But Craig Jones saying that

1910
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 5: they did not want to end up there and they

1911
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 5: wanted him to be able to belly out. That was prevented.

1912
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 5: And so when you hear Ben Vicker say the game

1913
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 5: plan wasn't the problem, I know folks are going to

1914
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 5: hear that and say, dude, how could you say that?

1915
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 5: You were like you got dusted in this fight fifty

1916
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 5: forty five. But I understand what he's saying. They had

1917
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 5: an The problem was not what were the ideas that

1918
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 5: were powering this or that JDM hadn't pulled it off previously.

1919
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,720
Speaker 5: The problem was Islam was a step ahead of them

1920
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 5: in the way in which he was prepared for it,

1921
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 5: and how it deteriorated Jack's game that that game plan

1922
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 5: maybe some things have to be tweaked, you know, BC

1923
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 5: not like there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah, I think

1924
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 5: a few things have to be tweaked, And I think

1925
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,600
Speaker 5: the wrestling and the down blocking was really missing in

1926
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 5: this fight. But once they were on the floor. Some

1927
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 5: of the ideas that I think that they had about

1928
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 5: getting out of these spaces or reversing them, they were

1929
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 5: not bad ideas. Whether they should be changed a little bit, BC,

1930
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 5: you can have that. The issue to me was jdm's

1931
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 5: application of the game plan. He got lost in there,

1932
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 5: so you can't even really say, oh, did the game

1933
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 5: plan fail. It wasn't really ever fully implemented to begin with.

1934
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Dude, I think you just got a helt classed in

1935
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: every category. He did nothing on the feet he was

1936
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 1: he was too slow for Islam. Islam was easily bait

1937
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: him into raising his guard and then shooting in for

1938
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: the takedown. I just think he got out classed, and

1939
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: I think maybe some of that is the fact that

1940
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: we didn't see JDM climb the traditional path of going

1941
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: through multiple top elite contenders. The schedule sort of opened up.

1942
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: Shafcott was hurt. Look he filled that gap. He won

1943
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: the championship. He is an elite fighter, but he lost

1944
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: to a super elite fighter, the best fighter in the sport,

1945
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: and he lost very badly. So now it's about bouncing back.

1946
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: He will retain, of course, the number one ranking in

1947
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: the welterweight division as UFC likes to do here. First

1948
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,640
Speaker 1: is jdm's statement that he put out on Instagram, in

1949
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,839
Speaker 1: which he said, quote Islam is one of the greats

1950
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: and deserved to win. I will learn and move forward. Luke.

1951
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes guys win the title, they lose it. They never

1952
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 1: get back there. Doesn't mean they don't have wins in

1953
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: their career after that, but they never become that same

1954
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: elite guy again. I want to know if you believe

1955
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: JDM can become that guy again, considering the depth in

1956
01:34:56,720 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: this division and what is the suitable opponent now for

1957
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: the number one ranked welterweight looking to bounce back and

1958
01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: redeem his, you know, reputation.

1959
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,799
Speaker 5: I don't think Islam's going to be here for very long,

1960
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 5: and Jack's just twenty nine. I absolutely think Jack will

1961
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:14,759
Speaker 5: fight for a title again.

1962
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Okay, change your opinion that. I asked Islam that directly

1963
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 1: on last week, and he told me that because he

1964
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: doesn't have to cut as much weight, he's going to

1965
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: fight more times per year and he has no plans

1966
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: of stepping away anytime soon.

1967
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 5: We'll see about that. We'll see about that. What's he

1968
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 5: gonna say? I mean, well, I mean I suppose he

1969
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 5: could say a lot of things. I guess we'll see.

1970
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 5: We'll see. That'd be great. I mean, don't get me wrong.

1971
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 5: I mean more of him sticking around I think is awesome.

1972
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 5: But in any case, he is thirty four BC and

1973
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 5: JDM is twenty nine. So like jdm's got like what

1974
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 5: at least three years left or two and a half

1975
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 5: years whatever it is of his physical prime potentially more

1976
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 5: so that to me seems like the idea that he

1977
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 5: won't get back there that I don't believe that. I

1978
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 5: think he absolutely will. You know, the point I wanted

1979
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 5: to make, though I just to drive home, is like,

1980
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 5: imagine if someone you know, this is an exaggerated example,

1981
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 5: but imagine if someone was like, hey, you have to

1982
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,799
Speaker 5: go pass you know, Gordon Ryan's guard and I trained

1983
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 5: for it, and I had great training partners, and I

1984
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 5: had some the very best people come up with a

1985
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 5: game plan. But like, it doesn't matter. Once you lock

1986
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 5: up with him, you know he's going to be the

1987
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 5: skill differential so vast. Even if I had the right ideas,

1988
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 5: and I even tried to prep those, it's going to

1989
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 5: fall apart against a skilled operator like that. It just

1990
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 5: wouldn't make any sense. And again that's a very exaggerated example,

1991
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 5: but something kind of similar happened here along the way.

1992
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 5: But then the next fight, I don't know, that's an

1993
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 5: interesting one.

1994
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:39,599
Speaker 1: B See.

1995
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 5: Sean Brady versus JDM is kind of interesting to me

1996
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 5: because obviously on the feet, you know, I think Brady's

1997
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 5: put a lot of good skills together, but it seems

1998
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 5: to be part of the thing that's been his undoing

1999
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 5: against ballall and then here against Morales. But on the ground,

2000
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 5: what could he do against JDM? Probably a lot. So

2001
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 5: I kind of like that one. Both guys coming off

2002
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 5: of losses they were I think we're supposed to fight originally,

2003
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 5: make that one maybe.

2004
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate that, But he is the number one

2005
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: ranked fighter, so there's no chance they make him fight Shavcot.

2006
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 5: Right, I wouldn't hate that one either.

2007
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more likely Shavcott gets one of Protests

2008
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 1: or Morales.

2009
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 5: Okay, so there's a so long island, Luke, you think

2010
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 5: that they should get see I want to see the

2011
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 5: protest Morales fight, don't you.

2012
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're sold on that, But like JDM,

2013
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 2: protest does sound pretty fucking fun.

2014
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 5: How do you how do you handicap that one.

2015
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 2: I'd probably favored. It'd be close. Jdm's slight favorite minus

2016
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 2: one thirty JDM plus one ten car That sounds about right.

2017
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2018
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: No, you don't want to give him like Gabriel bone

2019
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Feme or anything.

2020
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 5: No, No, that's.

2021
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 1: What I can't do one all eleven. Yeah, or I

2022
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he would, Luke. But

2023
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 1: we'll have to see that. Okay, we'll have to see it.

2024
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 5: Dude, he lost to Islam. Let's dial it back here

2025
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 5: a little bit.

2026
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 1: I get you, I get you. But also we have

2027
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 1: a short track record of him beating elite foes, Luke,

2028
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: we gotta admit that he's got a lot of split

2029
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: streations in a row on the way. To get to

2030
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,599
Speaker 1: this point, all right, topic number five, As we're running

2031
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: out of time here, the PFL has laid out its

2032
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 1: overall plan for twenty twenty six, at least twenty four cards,

2033
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: with sixteen sixteen of them airing on ESPN and ten

2034
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: of those being title fights. No more tournaments except for

2035
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: on their regional level, and a trip to Spain before

2036
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,479
Speaker 1: the UFC even makes it there in the first quarter

2037
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: of next year. Are these the kind of changes here

2038
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: as we can show the PFL announcements that the promotion

2039
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 1: needs to stay relevant. Could you show us that tweet.

2040
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 5: Their l to the ayiel I think it's the Uh,

2041
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 5: it's a video.

2042
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 1: Oh, it is a video. Well, let's watch that and

2043
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: then we'll react.

2044
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 13: Hey everybody, John Martin, PFL CEO. Here in twenty twenty six,

2045
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 13: we are leveling up. We're running at least twenty four

2046
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 13: events worldwide, with sixteen major cards on ESPN in the

2047
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,599
Speaker 13: United States featuring our top fighters in the PFL going

2048
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 13: after World Championships, and ten of those are going to

2049
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 13: be right here in the United States. We're going to

2050
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 13: kick off.

2051
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 1: Things in a big way.

2052
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:13,480
Speaker 13: Our first four stops Dubai, Madrid, Spain, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and Chicago, Illinois.

2053
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 13: And yes, we're continuing to make big changes to PFL.

2054
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 13: Many of you probably remember that we're stepping away from

2055
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,960
Speaker 13: the tournament format. So what does that mean. That means

2056
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 13: every card is going to be built around the best

2057
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 13: fights possible, the biggest fights every card, the fights the

2058
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 13: fans are asking for and the fights that the fighters want.

2059
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 13: Our regional leagues and MINA and Africa are going to

2060
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 13: continue to maintain tournament formats, building the next wave of

2061
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 13: stars who will move up to the global stage. This

2062
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 13: is a new era at the PFL, the best fighting

2063
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 13: the best every time. Reminded December thirteenth and leone, two

2064
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 13: championship belts on the line.

2065
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: After that, we.

2066
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 13: Look forward to going into twenty twenty six with a

2067
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 13: lot of momentum.

2068
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 1: They'll see it there, Lukes. Those our third straight year

2069
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: where you could say it's a make or break. These

2070
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: seem to be better moves. Will it be enough to

2071
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: sustain and even get re signed with ESPN?

2072
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 5: I think my first thing I would say is I

2073
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 5: don't know how you can hear this and think these

2074
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 5: aren't important improvements. First of all, BC few work. I mean,

2075
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 5: how many annual events does PFL have typically in a

2076
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 5: normal calendar year. Do we know the answer to that?

2077
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's more like coming.

2078
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 5: No overall do with like PFL Europe and all right

2079
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,920
Speaker 5: tournament I think it's ten. Yeah, So I mean you

2080
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 5: know the question is what that means for these kinds

2081
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 5: of cards. But first of all, they're gonna go to Madrid,

2082
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 5: Spain before UFC. I mean that's absolutely the right, call

2083
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 5: like a million times. That is so smart for them

2084
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 5: to be able to do that. I don't know what

2085
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 5: kind of Spanish talent that they have, but nevertheless, just

2086
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 5: putting a foothold in that market and having a big

2087
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,599
Speaker 5: event BC. We've seen their shows in Ireland, we've seen

2088
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 5: their shows in France. They look big, they look grand.

2089
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 5: Getting something like that is a no brainer. That's the

2090
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 5: first thing. Second of all, there's still to have the

2091
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 5: tournament format, as you heard in kind of these like

2092
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 5: sort of smaller regional sort of like offshoot brands. But

2093
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,560
Speaker 5: for what we expect here in the United States or

2094
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,879
Speaker 5: for the big shows, They're not doing that shit anymore.

2095
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 5: They're gonna have best fights available. But the fans want

2096
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 5: to see. They mean, they made this whole thing and

2097
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 5: this whole identity around Oh we're taking the matchmaker out

2098
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 5: of it. Yeah, that's the problem, fellas. So this is

2099
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 5: I think a better choice as well. In addition, we

2100
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 5: mentioned on the one hand they're going to Madrid. On

2101
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 5: the other side, they're going to I think some of

2102
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 5: these underserved markets. I don't know if Pittsburgh makes sense,

2103
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 5: but Chicago not a small market but has been I

2104
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 5: think a little bit underserved until a little bit more recently.

2105
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 5: I know they went back for UFC three to nineteen,

2106
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 5: but it had been a while up to that point.

2107
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 5: Belletre was serving those interests. But I don't know if

2108
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 5: PFL was necessarily making as much of a home of

2109
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 5: there as they could have been. That smart and I

2110
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:46,960
Speaker 5: think going to some of these again, Pittsburgh might prove

2111
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 5: to be one of their better shows, These kind of

2112
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 5: like mid major ones. Right, your Omaha, Nebraska is your Pittsburgh,

2113
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 5: Pennsylvania's These kinds of places, at least in theory, make

2114
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 5: a little bit more sense. So I love that model

2115
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 5: of things as well. Putting title fights on ESPN, you see,

2116
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 5: the big question that you asked was is this going

2117
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:05,599
Speaker 5: to be enough to get them to a different place?

2118
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 5: Is this going to be enough to get them to

2119
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 5: be resigned with ESPN because this will be their last

2120
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 5: year on ESPN and it'll be no UFC. You could say competition,

2121
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 5: but honestly that would also bring more visibility to MMA

2122
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 5: as well. What I'll say is they're doing the things

2123
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 5: that they have to do to give themselves the best

2124
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 5: chance to get those I still believe that as long

2125
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 5: as the UFC doesn't co promote. It's kind of like

2126
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 5: a done deal. But you can't say that PFL isn't

2127
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 5: making important changes at important times in the right direction

2128
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 5: to give themselves the best chance possible. I think what

2129
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:43,600
Speaker 5: we need to ask ourselves is, at the end of

2130
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, did it work? And if it does,

2131
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 5: kudos to them. They they made the kind of adjustments

2132
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 5: that we have been asking them to make. On the

2133
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 5: flip side, if they make all these adjustments and it's

2134
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 5: all or not, these are kind of the questions you

2135
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 5: have to ask yourself about the state of the MMA

2136
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,719
Speaker 5: industry and what it means on the confines of the UFC.

2137
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did announce that the first fight card of

2138
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: twenty six will have usman and margametof in the main

2139
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: event defending his lightweight title against Archie Colgan. I think,

2140
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 1: as I've said from the beginning.

2141
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 5: Alfie No, was it Archie Colgan or Alfie Davis?

2142
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: Alfie Davis, My apologies there on that good catch. As

2143
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,839
Speaker 1: I've always said, you've got you know, three four fighters

2144
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: that the larger nime world does care about. Feature the

2145
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: shit out of those fighters. Okay, Like, seriously, they should

2146
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: be fighting as often as possible, always in main events.

2147
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 1: Great move getting rid of the tournament. But if these

2148
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: are gonna be on ESPN unlimited and there's a paywall

2149
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 1: behind a paywall to get to PFL, it ain't gonna work.

2150
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: Loud work all right. That's that. All right? Those are

2151
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: your five topics for the week. Thank you for playing.

2152
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,280
Speaker 1: We close with fan segments and we offer you an

2153
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,760
Speaker 1: email address to reach out for the show. It's Morning

2154
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,240
Speaker 1: Coombat at gmail dot com. For your Friday fan subs,

2155
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 1: dead wrongs. You can complain show Mikey or genitals whatever

2156
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: is on your agenda for the week. Unfortunately, our fans

2157
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: blue this week. So since we blew off the dms

2158
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: from donks Monday after our late start due to Amtrak fails,

2159
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 1: we will bring back those questions here from the people

2160
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: that we care about the most, the listeners. This is

2161
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: dms from the digities. All right. Let's hear from josh

2162
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: Akacubbies fan eighty out of the Chicago area. He says,

2163
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,680
Speaker 1: if the first major event of CBS Paramount was an

2164
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: all welterweight card, Wow, Imagine a main card all welterweight

2165
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: bangers with Islam defending the belt at the top. How

2166
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 1: would you match maker? Now, look, the latest rumors are

2167
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: and I don't have it internally. This is just what

2168
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: i'm hearing that possibly January twenty fourth in Las Vegas

2169
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: is the kickoff card. We'll find out once they announced that.

2170
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 1: But imagine if they said, this is our division, it's deep,

2171
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: it delivers. Let's go five fights. Who do you match

2172
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: Islam with in the main event?

2173
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 5: Okay, I get to pick whatever I want. I got

2174
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 5: to pick something that everybody loves.

2175
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, you're McK maynard calls you right now and says, Luke,

2176
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:07,680
Speaker 1: remember that matchmaker for a day who now works at

2177
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: white Castle. You're that guy today?

2178
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 5: All right, all right, prochest Morales. I just want to

2179
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 5: see that one.

2180
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you were going to start at the

2181
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 1: top with Islam. Who's he fighting?

2182
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 5: No particular order, but so these are the ones the

2183
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:26,719
Speaker 5: top of mind. Islam. I'd probably go Islam. Okay, Islam,

2184
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna do it Islam Rochmanov all right.

2185
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: God, that dude, that is such a good fight.

2186
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 5: Oh my Brady JDM.

2187
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Wait but yeah, okay, yeah, I'm with you.

2188
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 5: I'm with you, right, you can do all those.

2189
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: Garry getting if he beats Blah, No, that's too quick

2190
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: of a turnaround. Sorry, that's too quick of a turnaround.

2191
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 5: Yeah. Uh so you probably can't do that one. So

2192
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 5: I would do Buckley and who I put Buckley in

2193
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 5: there with? You could do Buckley Chris Curtis again, since

2194
01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:58,040
Speaker 5: they're both at welterweight.

2195
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't move me. How about.

2196
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 5: What do we have for Buckley Leon? Buckley Leon?

2197
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 1: My question is everybody just fought. That's the problem with

2198
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 1: this question, right are we? But if we were suspending

2199
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: that notion and didn't worry about that, are you bringing

2200
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: in Colby? That's what the people want to know.

2201
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 5: Why with the funk would I bring in that guy? Well,

2202
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 5: I would do Buckley Leon, and then I would do

2203
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what you do with Gary. That kind

2204
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 5: of messes it up a little bit. How would you

2205
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 5: do it? All right?

2206
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 1: I like Islam versus See, I would go Islam versus Gary.

2207
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: If he wins, okay, all right, then I'm gonna give

2208
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: you protest morales. Do it while it's there. I'm kind

2209
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: of with you, But then it's like, what do you do?

2210
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: Then you're kind of screwing Shovcott though, so I don't

2211
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 1: even know if that works. Long a. Look, do you

2212
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: have a solution? You're sending us some notes here? What

2213
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: do you have?

2214
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote my five card out here. Ready Islam

2215
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 2: Shavcott main event, Comaine, JDM protest next fight Brady Usman?

2216
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: All right, you could change these two Morales versus the

2217
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 2: winner of this weekend balal E and Gary and then

2218
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 2: Leon Buckley opened all.

2219
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 1: Right, how about I go Shavcott Usman so I can

2220
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 1: keep Gary against Islam it's not and then everyone's going

2221
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 1: protest Morales and uh bone theme Covington because he called

2222
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:11,080
Speaker 1: him out.

2223
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 5: Luke, not the worst fight in the world.

2224
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 1: I like the idea. I like the idea, Luke. Now,

2225
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: I know you've been fighting for an all female UFC

2226
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: pay per view. Let's maybe we'll get that one day.

2227
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that there are ways to do that,

2228
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 5: but I don't know if it's what I would recommend.

2229
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to our second question from Stick's

2230
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:31,440
Speaker 1: place time, what chance do you give a La Pantosia

2231
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: and Josh Van It could be one of the best

2232
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: fights of the year. I have a feeling that fight

2233
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: will be an absolute banger. Luke what chance do you

2234
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: give that this could end up being in the Fight

2235
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 1: of the Year discussion.

2236
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 5: Hi very hard to say that in front of things.

2237
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 5: I mean, also just in fairness beating that Contender series

2238
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:52,639
Speaker 5: fight between those two donks, the Russian and the Ecuadorian guy.

2239
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 5: That's going to be a tough fight to beat. That's

2240
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 5: not going to be easy. But this one has such

2241
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 5: high potential. You've got two guys who are just action

2242
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 5: or into Josh. Van has only one gear and it's

2243
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 5: the gas. The gas pedal to the floor. Pantojia, even

2244
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 5: when he is making it a ground fight, is always

2245
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 5: hunting the finish you got. I just you know, certainly

2246
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 5: has the capacity to be the most entertaining main event

2247
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:20,480
Speaker 5: this year. Gonna be tough to top Poeton and Uncliave

2248
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 5: in terms of the shock factor, but in terms of

2249
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,840
Speaker 5: the back and forth, it honestly might be the most entertained. Well,

2250
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 5: not because I guess. I guess Morob would be main event.

2251
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Most Roy Vall versus Van that was.

2252
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 5: Pretty crazy, but I'm saying title fight, Yeah sure.

2253
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Pantosio minus two eighteen favorite according to DraftKings plus one

2254
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,360
Speaker 1: eighty is Van very much looking forward to that Comaine

2255
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,720
Speaker 1: on December sixth, let's hear from short Underscore Fluke. I

2256
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: know it's blasphemy to even say it out loud, but

2257
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask anyway, who wins Prime Islam prime Hobbib.

2258
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: I want to say, I mean, Islam's more skilled in

2259
01:49:00,479 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: the better striker, but you wonder if Habib has that

2260
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: older brother strength and wrestling. You know, I taught you

2261
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 1: everything except for this type of feeling.

2262
01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got I get that feeling a little bit too.

2263
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Prime Habib figures out no matter what, whether

2264
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 1: it enters with broken bones, he figures out a way

2265
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: to win the fight and finish you and finish you

2266
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:21,760
Speaker 1: on top of that.

2267
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 5: Maybe, I mean, it's kind of interesting that we're talking like,

2268
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 5: you know, Prime Islam or Prime gsp At one seventy

2269
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 5: or Prime Islam or Prime Habib. And I don't know

2270
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 5: if he's better than either of those guys, but the

2271
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 5: fact that he's in close competition with both of them

2272
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,440
Speaker 5: in both weight classes is kind of insane.

2273
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna lean Habib, but that would obviously be

2274
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: a banger. Yeah, definitely, This is from a man in

2275
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 1: his cat You know, we love that guy, Luke, which

2276
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,719
Speaker 1: current or former UFC champ would you pick to have

2277
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,080
Speaker 1: as your partner for a table tennis ping pong?

2278
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 5: Don't? Don't you pick Chinese fighters? We see that's that's yeah.

2279
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 5: I mean I see, I see the wheels turning over there,

2280
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 5: ping Pong? Who is like agile like that Ping Pong?

2281
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: That's who you're tyro. Oh, sorry, that goes against what

2282
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 1: you're saying.

2283
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 5: He's Jeff.

2284
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: Uh okay, yeah, you gotta go flyway here right get

2285
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: how about Roy Vall. He's got long limbs, he won't

2286
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: fight in the White House, he doesn't use condoms. I'm

2287
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 1: going with the raw do.

2288
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:23,559
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good answer. That's a good answer,

2289
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 5: I would say, honestly. Okay, so technically he's Asian, but

2290
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:31,600
Speaker 5: josh Van as well, because he's just kind of you know,

2291
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 5: he's pivoting and he's turning, and he's got he can fast,

2292
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 5: he's fast. I might go Josh Van.

2293
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Burmese pythons of his Luke, let's close with fly in

2294
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: Ryan eight six. Oh, I know that area code. Uh

2295
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: that's Connecticut, by the way, Luke, the upper half, thank

2296
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: you very much.

2297
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 10: Uh.

2298
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: Although I see nobody cares Okay, you what are your

2299
01:50:53,280 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 1: top three fruits? You're standing in front of a treasury

2300
01:50:57,000 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: chest of perfectly ripe fruit, and you need to pick.

2301
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 1: What are your three favorite perfectly ripe fruits?

2302
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:08,400
Speaker 5: Great question. Number one gotta be mango, a perfectly delicious.

2303
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:11,679
Speaker 1: Dude. I hate all all melon. I hate all melon.

2304
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 1: It's because it's too close to cucumber. And I was

2305
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 1: grown up forced to have cute raw cucumbers shoved down me. Luke, Dude,

2306
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I was that kid at field day.

2307
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 5: They're servin you can eat at Arby's and you can't

2308
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 5: eat mango.

2309
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 1: Not watermelon, honeydew, none of that chit at, Luke, No,

2310
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't bring that shit to me. Pomegranate seeds. Bang,

2311
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:35,880
Speaker 1: they bang, Luke, they bang.

2312
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 5: You are a billy goat and you eat you eat beer.

2313
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 1: Cans, I eat fruit. I just hate melon. Is that

2314
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 1: not allowed here, Luke?

2315
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:49,200
Speaker 5: That is absolutely melon as like in general, Like I

2316
01:51:49,200 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 5: don't like honeydew. What the you don't like candle loop?

2317
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that obviously, well, all melons, dude, it has

2318
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: a cucumber consistency. I hate that shit.

2319
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 5: It does not have a cucumber consistency. You're completely out

2320
01:51:57,800 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 5: of your mind. What if the fuck kind of fruit

2321
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 5: are you eating? You think that I'm gonna.

2322
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: Say rawberries, bananas, grape.

2323
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 5: The answer is mango, watermelon, and I'm gonna say banana

2324
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 5: is a close one. But I'm gonna say just in

2325
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 5: terms of pure deliciousness when they're fully ripe, I'm gonna

2326
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 5: say pineapple.

2327
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Uh no, pomegran seeds. Those things will change your life.

2328
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 5: Luke, I like pomegranate. I'm okay with pomegranate. Long Island.

2329
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 5: Luke is BC out of his fucking mind? Or is

2330
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 5: it just me? You know you might as well.

2331
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 2: Not like any melon is kind of wild. We were

2332
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 2: actually all talking about this pre show, and there's difference

2333
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 2: between like your favorite flavors of fruit and your favorite

2334
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 2: like ripe fruit, you know what I mean. Like I

2335
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 2: love cherry.

2336
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:39,759
Speaker 1: Watermelon flavor is my favorite.

2337
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 2: By the way, I just say, like, I love cherry

2338
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 2: flavored anything, but I would never pick cherry as like

2339
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 2: my favorite fruit, you know what I mean.

2340
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:48,600
Speaker 1: It's one of those do you guys hear yourselves?

2341
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we hear.

2342
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. We're not allowed to have like like things we

2343
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,719
Speaker 1: like and things we don't like. Luke, I mean, how.

2344
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:58,880
Speaker 5: Can you say something like, yes, I like the synthetic

2345
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 5: robot version of watermelon, but not prime in it's in

2346
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 5: its fucking I mean, you know, I I don't understand

2347
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 5: who you are.

2348
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't know watermelon is disgusting. By the way, I

2349
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: knew kids growing up. Wait, the whole thing, seeds and

2350
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 1: the green part.

2351
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 5: I mean, come, okay, the green part I'm not eating

2352
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,480
Speaker 5: and the seeds you gotta spit, but delicious green.

2353
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 2: Part.

2354
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: I I knew people, okay from this is.

2355
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 5: A true story speaking of fruit. One time I was

2356
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 5: visiting I was I was visiting my friend in New

2357
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 5: York and so I was a woman, Mary and I

2358
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 5: took the I took a car ride up to d C.

2359
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 5: Stayed with my friend at Georgetown for a day, and

2360
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 5: then we took the peter Pan bus. But it got

2361
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 5: into the Greyhound station at the same time. You know

2362
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And uh, I saw a dude in

2363
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 5: the fucking Greyhound bus station waiting for the Peter Pan

2364
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 5: bus taking orange and then just eat it, peel and all,

2365
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 5: like it was an apple. You know, I'm talking about,

2366
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 5: like just biting the motherfucking orange and then eating the

2367
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 5: peel and the pulp that way.

2368
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: My wife's grandfather used to take lemons and just chew

2369
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 1: them like they wear an orange, and I just can

2370
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: you imagine.

2371
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 5: Eating the fucking peel just like this? It's a bro.

2372
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,919
Speaker 5: You're a food disposal.

2373
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: Ell and honey dew. I hate all can name more melons?

2374
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I hate them all. Luke, I hate them, hate candloup,

2375
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I hate cucumbers and black liquor spiders, chicks who smoked cigarettes.

2376
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I can keep going, all.

2377
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 5: Right, you are a strange human being. I cannot believe

2378
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:26,759
Speaker 5: what you're saying.

2379
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: Look you're telling me if I laid out all the

2380
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 1: foods I love that, and some of them being very basic,

2381
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: you wouldn't go, Oh, I don't eat that. That's gross.

2382
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 5: I hate How do you get the balls to say?

2383
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 5: I like artificial watermelon and an ARB's beef and cheddar,

2384
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 5: but don't you dare give me one of nature's most

2385
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 5: delicious candies and perfectly in season. I eat them ready

2386
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 5: to go.

2387
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: Every other fruit, seriously, even weird ones at the Jamaican

2388
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 1: buffet on vacation. Okay, I'll get after it, do you dragon? Fruit.

2389
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 5: I have dragon fruit's okay, it's not great, but it's

2390
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 5: all right, fine, fine, you know what, you gotta have

2391
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 5: this fruit that they haven't. Columbia, by the way, has

2392
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 5: fruits that I've you literally cannot even buy here. I

2393
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 5: didn't again, I didn't know much about Columbia before I

2394
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 5: went there and married my wife. But the level of

2395
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 5: biodiversity down there is kind of insane. And so they've

2396
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 5: got fruits I never heard of. They have a fruit

2397
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 5: there called granadija, which is it's a it's got like

2398
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 5: an orange shell. You have to peel like they're like

2399
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 5: an orange fruit, and inside it's these seeds and you

2400
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 5: don't actually eat the seeds, you eat the coating around

2401
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: the seeds. And it's insanely sweet. Okay, like this maybe

2402
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 5: the sweetest fruit I've ever had, but with one big

2403
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 5: caveat the consistency of the granadija seed is like a booger.

2404
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 5: Like like it's like you ever seen a bag full

2405
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,160
Speaker 5: of tadpoles at one of these like fish restaurant, or

2406
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 5: not at restaurants, but like like a pet store. It's

2407
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 5: like eating a bag full of tadpoles. It's the consistency

2408
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 5: is too hard for me.

2409
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: Avoid all melons. They're like cumbers. Avoid pickles, by the way,

2410
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: cucumbers in disguise as if we don't, we can't see that.

2411
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 5: I mean, you have the palette of a toddler.

2412
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean I've got a very I did when I

2413
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: married my wife. But I have a very evense pellette.

2414
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 1: Now look I live in.

2415
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:13,480
Speaker 5: A out I don't. That's not what I'm right.

2416
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Our final fan segment is where you put us on trial, folks.

2417
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. Were we right or

2418
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: were we dead wrong? You'll have to get.

2419
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 5: Wrong.

2420
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,120
Speaker 1: All right. Sorry for the late start today, folks. We're

2421
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: wrapping up a little late, but thanks for staying with us.

2422
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: Here's Adam. He says on Monday's MK at one twenty

2423
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: five fifty two BC states that Ethan Ewing won on

2424
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 1: eight days notice, and that is dead wrong. He won

2425
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,120
Speaker 1: on two days notice, and he was the champ from

2426
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: a one combat, which is your right, f not Anthony Pettis.

2427
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Don't forget weed is a memory last drug. Very true,

2428
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: big fan of the show. All right, The eight days

2429
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 1: I was referencing was that he had fought eight days ago.

2430
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: I got it wrong. You're right. I did think it

2431
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: was Anthony Pettis's promotion. I guess I'm wrong on that

2432
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:02,120
Speaker 1: one too. Okay, thank you. I'll take all the l's

2433
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: you got for me, except for the honeydew melon ones.

2434
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: Here's from John oh Mark at the one forty six

2435
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 1: mark of Monday's episode, referred to John Pork as being

2436
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: Italian brain rot, which is absolutely false. That's what my

2437
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 1: kids tell me. Well. John Pork is originally from Italy.

2438
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: He's based in London and started posting selfies on his

2439
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: Instagram account in twenty eighteen. His online activity thus predates

2440
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: the emergence of Italian brain rot in twenty twenty five

2441
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: and it's subsequent spread. From a quebec Qua based in

2442
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Montreal who remains unconvinced of BC's French Canadian heritage. That's

2443
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: funny because I was watching a Christmas movie based in

2444
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 1: France with my wife last night, saying you also married

2445
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: a Frenchman and she's like, no, I didn't. I'm Mike.

2446
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 5: Was that Costco last night? And they had toys that

2447
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 5: had that were called skibbety toilet have you heard of yes? Yeah, yes, yes,

2448
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 5: And it looked like some kind of robot from the future.

2449
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 1: It's connected to all that brain rot stuff. I'm not

2450
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: gonnact like I know anything I hear secondhand from my kids.

2451
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 1: They get in trouble for dropping skidity things all the time.

2452
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know final one here from Jeff. I'll take

2453
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:11,839
Speaker 1: that ol if you got it, thank you. While listening,

2454
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Jeff says to Monday's MK at one thirty four to

2455
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 1: twenty two. I was caught off guard by Luke's language

2456
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 1: about as much as I was caught off guard waking

2457
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: up at three am in two thousand and seven to

2458
01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:23,880
Speaker 1: a Girl's Gone Wild commercial playing on my TV. When

2459
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: Luke referred to Teddy Atlas as Titty Atlas, did I say, Now,

2460
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 1: I know VC talks about no Cita's horned up OSSI father,

2461
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,920
Speaker 1: but we need to acknowledge there's even more horned up

2462
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Indian on the program. I know this may be nitpicking,

2463
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 1: but Luke is typically the go to for name pronunciation

2464
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: unless they're not Hispanic folks or Spanish. And to end

2465
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 1: on a mythological note, maybe Teddy Atlas's name triggered Luke's

2466
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 1: desire to be Atlas, but instead of holding up the

2467
01:58:56,400 --> 01:59:02,760
Speaker 1: world he's holding up a couple of jugs hashtag for days. Wow. Wow, okay,

2468
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 1: that is a dead wrong. By the way, Teddy Atlas

2469
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 1: is thirty year run at ESPN just ended with that

2470
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 1: UFC card last weekend. Thirty years.

2471
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 5: He was still on ESPN.

2472
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah he was.

2473
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:15,160
Speaker 5: I thought he's been off for years.

2474
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 1: He's been off calling fights, but they've used him like

2475
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 1: in the studio and stuff. Oh okay, okay, all right,

2476
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 1: that is our show. A reminder, first of all, the

2477
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: reminder that this episode of Morning Combat was brought to

2478
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 1: you by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. I forgot

2479
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: to hit you up about the merch guys. It is

2480
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: Morningcombat dot Shop and it's the holiday season. November exclusives

2481
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: are available the Dripping Blood MK logo, T shirt and hoodie.

2482
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 1: How about the average Joe Aret produced Combat Buddies Get

2483
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: it in T shirt, Get it in autographed poster Long

2484
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Island Luke as the official handler of this year merch shop.

2485
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: Do we have any Black Friday sales coming up ahead

2486
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 1: of next week?

2487
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll tease it more next week, but yes,

2488
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 2: big Black Friday Today sale ahead, So stay tuned, especially

2489
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 2: for Wednesday's episode.

2490
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 1: Next week BBF Big Black Friday Sales coming up at you.

2491
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Morningcombat dot Shop mixing match.

2492
02:00:10,120 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: The callers get one for your abuela to close. Here

2493
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: a reminder, next week is a holiday week in the States.

2494
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Here Thanksgiving. Luke Thomas, I believe we're doing a mail

2495
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 1: bag episode that will air Friday. We'll record it on Wednesday.

2496
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 1: What if the people sent in video questions?

2497
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 5: Would we answer them video questions? Put the email if

2498
02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:31,680
Speaker 5: you can, on the screen here along on Luke. Video questions,

2499
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:35,800
Speaker 5: emailed audio questions. You can just pick up your phone

2500
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 5: doing nice a little recording into it like that you

2501
02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 5: can send to us or written once any of them

2502
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 5: will take. We'll take written, we'll take audio, we'll take video.

2503
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 5: Multimedia preferred, All versions acceptable.

2504
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,360
Speaker 1: All questions will be answered in some form.

2505
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I got a dead wrong myself in real time.

2506
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 2: I thought we were airing the show on Wednesday. It's

2507
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:55,839
Speaker 2: gonna air on Friday, So we'll preview the Black Friday

2508
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 2: Sale on Monday, Okay, and then it'll go live.

2509
02:00:59,320 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Get your question ideas in, have fun with it. Not

2510
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:02,960
Speaker 1: longer than what a minute?

2511
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,640
Speaker 5: Do we say yes? Sixty seconds or less.

2512
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 1: Okay, hit us up there at Morning Combat at gmail

2513
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:12,440
Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you, guys. Enjoy the fights this weekend.

2514
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: UFC Cutter the big ring card on his own pay

2515
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: per view for Long Island Luke for the Great Luke

2516
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: Thomas I amb Sizzle. We'll be back next week. It

2517
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:24,760
Speaker 1: is Turkey Week and I'm not talking about Ali Sheik. Hey,

2518
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 1: enjoy yourselves, take care, have a great weekend. It's been

2519
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 1: mkwe ol