1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 5 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: my name is Noela. They call me Ben. You are you? 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: And that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Today we're talking about something, something pretty weird. So maybe 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: by way of segue, we can talk a little bit 9 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: about the Internet. Guys, I ever heard of that? The Internet? 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: What's that? That's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal. 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: So what is it though? The Internet? I'm so glad 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: you asked. Uh, let's just explain that we're kidding. If 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: you're listening to this show, you already know what the 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Internet is. You've listened to our earlier episodes on the 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: Dark Web. And we would like to recommend a guy 16 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: that we usually give a hard time to. If you 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: want to get a good nuts and bolts explanation of 18 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: the technology at work behind the Internet, head on over 19 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: to Tech Stuff with our friend recurring guest recurring guest host, 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: and of course our complaint department, Jonathan Strickland. He's kind 21 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: of a frenem me in a way. You know, when 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I first started working here, he promoted me to Nemesis 23 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: at some point, and I thought he would let it 24 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: he I thought eventually we get tired of it. Did 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: you know? You guys have been riding that crazy train 26 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: ever since? I know, but he does know his stuff 27 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: about the Internet and technology. We're going to talk specifically 28 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: about a strange mystery that occurred on Reddit a number 29 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: of years ago, with a strange name. It's called Lake 30 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: City Quiet Pills. That's pretty cool, huh. I don't know why. 31 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: It gives me a shutter It'll give you more of 32 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: a shutterer once we get into it. Something about that 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: just on its own. Remember the last episode we talked 34 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: about how like kind of simple, straightforward names seem the 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: most nefarious at times. Yes, that has that thing. Yeah, definitely, yeah, 36 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: absolutely Well, this thing is found was found originated on 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: a website called Reddit. If you don't know what Reddit is, 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: let's get into it. It's a news slash meme, I 39 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: would say, aggregator. I would say it kind of leans 40 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: heavily on the second. Maybe. You know, there's a lot 41 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: of news. That's where I get a lot of my news, 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: And in theory it's driven by reader interests. This it's 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: up votes down votes. Instead of creating its own, you know, 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: stories of Reddit publishing things, it takes articles from other 45 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: parts of the web, images from other parts of the web, 46 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: throws it on there and lets all of the people 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: vote on what's the best and what's the worst. And 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: the name itself is a portmanteau really of reading and editing, 49 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: and the people that contribute to it are referred to 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: as redditors because not only do they consume the content 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: on the side, they are also largely responsible for the 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: content on the site. And there is sort of a 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: hierarchy of upvoting and downvoting what you're talking about as 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: far as what rises to the top and what sings 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: to the bottom. So in theory, if everything is working well, 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Reddit will become the sum of its participants' interest. And 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: just like Noel and Matt explained this rough upvoting downvoting 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: of things, Reddit users this is very important are to 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: a degree anonymous. So sure we've looked in We've looked 60 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: into this in the past. It's essentially so inconvenient to 61 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: be anonymous on the web that you might as well, 62 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: consider it impossible. But Reddit makes it very easy for 63 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: someone to have a different identity part of the draw. 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I would absolutely agree. And but sure, our 65 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: buddy are poor, unfortunate n say intern Steve oh Man, Steve, 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: are you doing okay? He probably knows everyone's real name 67 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: and address. But the average Reddit user won't know anything 68 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: about other Reddit users or redditors unless they choose to 69 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: reveal these details. That means that it's very, very difficult 70 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: to know what's true. And the community has evolved ways 71 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: to prove things when necessary, but for the most part, 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: and can do and say post whatever you want. And lastly, 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: it is like almost like an ecosystem. It's sort of 74 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: like a combination, sort of a hybrid message board where 75 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: there are little communities, subcommunities, people that know each other 76 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: and that communicate on a regular basis and may voluntarily 77 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: share information with one another within a particularly close knit 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: community within the Reddit ecosystem. That's a really good point. Yeah, 79 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: And another thing that we need to look at here 80 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: is when you make an account a Reddit account, and 81 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: you make posts, anyone can click on the name of 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: your account and see an entire backlog of everything that 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: you've publicly posted as a user of Reddit. Yeah, which 84 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: is super handy to the story we're getting into today, 85 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: because there is one person in particular that we're going 86 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: to focus on that this whole story revolves around. Yes, 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: all of this brings us to a redditor named Religion 88 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: of Peace all one word. This redditor was a shady dude, 89 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: sketchy person, bad hombre. Apparently based on his comments right, 90 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: he was tied to some disreputable parts of Reddit. We 91 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: do want to warn you that some of the things 92 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: we are going to be citing here are severely not 93 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: safe for work, not NSFL, NSFL, not safe for life. 94 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: So if you desire to visit these, visit them at 95 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: your own risk. So, as Noel mentioned that, it is 96 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: an ecosystem that has these different communities that are focused 97 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: on specific interests. So there might be you can also 98 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: anyone can make a new community. So there might be 99 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: something that's just for Camaros. There might be something that's 100 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: just for magic, the gathering, Magic the gathering, just like 101 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: a partico, like a George R. Martin or something like 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: that particular series of books. You know, a product, even 103 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: I mean it gets as granular as you your imagination 104 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: will allow. I think there's a subreddit for our one 105 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: of our peer shows stuff you should know. Actually, you know, 106 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: we officially have one subreddit conspiracy stuff we do. We 107 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: do a user and I am so sorry. If you're 108 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: listening to this. I don't remember who which person made 109 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: it for us, but it exists there. Oh holy smokes, 110 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: it's waiting to be curated by you. Not Been and Noel, 111 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: but you, the listener. You specifically listening to this, yeah, 112 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: not a general you know, you specifically like the you 113 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: like in the name of the show, like the stuff 114 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: they don't want you. Yes, ye, you that you. It 115 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: all just came around to me that I realized that's 116 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: the you. We've been talking about this whole time, all right, 117 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: So now that we have established this, we know that 118 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: people can make their own communities. This guy Religion of 119 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Peace was a moderator, an administrator of communities like jailbait. Yeah, 120 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: the one that he's a moderator of was true jailbait, 121 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: which sounds even worse. So this would be you know, 122 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: this is essentially on the line of underage pornography. And 123 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: he also ran a website called that Old Guy's Image 124 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Host again, as Noel said, an sfluh does contain pornographic material, 125 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: and ordinarily this kind of posting history. It's it's unfortunate, 126 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: it's sleazy, but it's not completely unheard of in forums 127 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, like Reddit or It's Evil Genius Sibling four Chan. 128 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, these these kind of things happen because in 129 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, people feel empowered when they are anonymous, 130 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: and they will do things that you know they would 131 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: never do if you knew their real names. Back in 132 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: July two thousand and nine, another redditor going by the 133 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: name two six announced that Religion of Peace had passed 134 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: away at the age of seventy nine. Gross I mean 135 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: not that he passed away, but that he was seventy 136 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: nine and moderating. Right, Yeah, if this is true. Now 137 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: this again, this seems like, yeah, this seems sad but normal. 138 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, you can, as Matt said, see the comments 139 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: that a Reddit user has made laid out in a timeline, 140 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: and Religion of Pieces comments are very interesting and far 141 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: afield from what you would expect to find. It appears, 142 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: in fact that he was someone with a lot of 143 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: military backgrounds and that his I guess criminal interests didn't 144 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: just stay in the flesh trade. He apparently specialized in 145 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: arranging assassinations. Perhaps perhaps so, should we go through a 146 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: couple of the posts that he made, just so we 147 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: can establish like more information about this guy. Well, first 148 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: of little background, They're like, what are we talking to here? 149 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Like what made this language unusual? Okay, sure, right, so 150 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: the walk through it this way. So remember the website 151 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: we mentioned a minute ago. There was a rereditor named 152 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: Zaza Kokwan who found some information hidden in the page 153 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: source in the source code of that old guy's image 154 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: host and had the strange domain name of www dot Lakecity, 155 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 1: Quiet Pills dot com. The site was also run by 156 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Religion of Peace. What this Reddit user found appeared to 157 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: be these coded messages related to hiring people to conduct 158 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: these military operations. And shortly after this was discovered and 159 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: armchair investigators were checking into it, another redditor found that 160 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: the code had changed. Whoever was running the site had 161 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: I guess up their game and used encryptied hashes. So 162 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: here's the kind of stuff they were saying before the 163 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: code changed. I would say, standing on the no fly list, 164 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: let us know ahead of time to make arrangements. Twelve 165 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: March twenty ten speck four person team. These are all 166 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,359 Speaker 1: in a lot of like very strange shortthand initially slashes 167 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: and shorthands and abbreviations and acronyms and things like that, 168 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: and people have made guesses about what some of this means. So, 169 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: for instance, there's there's a part where it says fed 170 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: CCW a plus that means is probably conceal and carry permit, 171 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: and also says stuff like no USWW that probably stands 172 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: for wants and warrants. And these references go around with 173 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: with other parts of the world, like the European Union 174 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: is mentioned here. Fluency in French or fluency in English 175 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: are mentioned here. Depending on the people you ask this. 176 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: There are people ex military who say that this sounds 177 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: like outdated military speak, so this could mean and this 178 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: could mean that Religion of Peace who's apparently also known 179 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: as Dutch Milo is a retired service member who went mercenary. 180 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: And nowadays there's a lot of money in going private industry. 181 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember what Blackwater is calling itself now, 182 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: Academic or something perhaps, or they'll just think they'll get 183 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: a more an increasingly vague name, until one day they're 184 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: just group incorporated, you know, but when people found us, 185 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: they thought, what the heck's going on? Who is the 186 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: shade guy they're referencing? Who is Dutch? Milo? Is this 187 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: an elaborate hoax? Is this a marketing campaign? Some people 188 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: thought it was an alternate reality game? Is this an 189 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: assassination squad? Well, we'll find out right after a quick 190 00:12:48,840 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: sponsor break. Here's where it gets crazy. So we've established 191 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: what's happening everything up to now is a real thing. 192 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: The big question which people haven't quite been able to 193 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: crack yet is whether this is you know, whether this 194 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: is just somebody trolling on the internet, or whether it 195 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: is a genuine mercenary ring or intelligence op of some 196 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: sort that was discovered. And there are arguments for and 197 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: against it being a hoax. But Matt, what okay? So 198 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,599 Speaker 1: one of the things we heard a lot when the 199 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: argument in the arguments for it being a hoax was 200 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: the concept of an arg as you said, alternate reality game. 201 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about that. Oh? Sure, 202 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: one of these things is going to be involving all 203 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: kinds of different electronics, sometimes manual transmissions. You're talking about 204 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: secret posts on websites, codes that are hidden somewhere that 205 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: if you're playing the game and you know what the 206 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: game is, you're going to be looking for it. But 207 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: if you're not, then it's going to be innocuous. So 208 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: this is not like a web based like app, like 209 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: a war game that has like a top down game 210 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: type setup. This is like almost like a digital scavenger 211 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: hunt kind of setup where it's established what the rules are, 212 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: what the rules of play are, and then you kind 213 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: of have to figure out where what you're looking for 214 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: and where to look, right kind of. Yeah, this is 215 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: something that's sort of out of my wheelhouse a little bit. 216 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand. It gets used a lot in 217 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: viral marketing for say a film, right, So if you 218 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: want to if you want to get people excited about 219 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: a Matrix reboot, which spoiler alert is apparently happening, Yeah, 220 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: then you would, as as a marketer, you would go 221 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: and pepper in these little breadcrumbs on these different websites 222 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: and people would maybe just see a billboard that had 223 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: a phone number and if you went to that phone number, 224 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: you get a weird message. Okay, I remember one with 225 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: the movie Cloverfield for example, with the you know, like 226 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: a Loshter Movies, slush show. Yeah, they had all these 227 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: like sub brands that websites would pop up and you 228 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: would be like, what the hell is this and then realize, oh, 229 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: you click here and it cross linked you back to 230 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: another thing, and yeah, I get it. It does kind 231 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: of like create this almost mythology for a product and 232 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: it gets people talking about it and people you know 233 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: on the internet love that. Yeah, but there are other 234 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: communities out there where it's not just for marketing. It's 235 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: a game that you can play where if you sign up, 236 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: you create an account on a website and you sign 237 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: up to play this game. Then you'll get calls in 238 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the night with someone who gives you 239 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: like a secret message or something by a real human 240 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: or sometimes by a robot, and then you it'll give 241 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: you coordinates, or it'll give you a place to be 242 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: at a certain time, and there will be a physical 243 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: note left there for you, or they'll be like a 244 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: VHS tape in a padded envelope left on your doorstep 245 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: with footage of you sleeping on it. I guess I'm 246 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: just trying to stress that these things are very real. 247 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: They're not always for marketing. And they you know, you 248 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: can play them for any number of reasons. Sure, sometimes 249 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: to scare yourself, sometimes for the mystery, and sometimes for 250 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the market, and sometimes for job applications or for entry 251 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: into elite communities like Cicada. Yes, when you know, we 252 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: had an update from Wired where ours technical I believe 253 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: about that that experience because an anonymous robotics student actually 254 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: did manage to crack the code, got into the gang, 255 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: and you know, worked with them on open source stuff, 256 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: so that mystery was somewhat solved. The reason we're bringing 257 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: up these examples is because we want to we want 258 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: to outline that this is more common, perhaps than you 259 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: might think, and this blurring of the line between reality 260 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: and fiction is much more easily accomplished now that we 261 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: live in this world of instantaneous, pervasive information. So it 262 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: could be that it could be that someone just made 263 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: it up and said, you know, this is this is 264 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna be my my opus. Maybe it all yeah, Maybe 265 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: you break Maybe you break some kind of code now 266 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: that they use like hash encryptions and stuff. Maybe you 267 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: break some kind of code somehow and you get a 268 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: web address and you type it in and it's just 269 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: a rick roll video maybe, but to do all that 270 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: on that website, to do all of this through and 271 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: almost underage, if not underage, you know, pornography site, pretty creepy. 272 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: That's true. So when let's talk about some things that 273 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: would some connective tissues. So when when that redditor to 274 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: announced that religion and peace had passed away or Dutch Milo, 275 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: they said that they were going to bury him near 276 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: various ashes, near a farm that he used to live on. 277 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: But there was a mall there now. So people have 278 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: based on the name Lake City and this information Mount 279 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Farm tried to trace the coordinates of this. Okay, I'm 280 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: getting a little bit ahead of myself. The two six even, 281 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: just to keep you there, two six even posted an 282 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: image and said, here's where Milo is now, and it's 283 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: an image on Google Maps and it's right next to 284 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: a little strip mall. Yeah, it's just it looks like 285 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: a place that's being developed, like a little tracted land 286 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: that's being developed. He's like, that's where he is. So 287 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: there's another there's another important thing here. We're talking about 288 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: the name Lake City Quiet pills. Yeah, creepy, right. It 289 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: comes from another person on a website called farc An 290 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Angel to six member FARC from back in the day 291 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: that was I used to go to that side. Yeah, yeah, 292 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: it's I mean some back in the day stuff. He 293 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: was posting there since two thousand and one, and his 294 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: tagline was, you know, like his signature line that would 295 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: show up and then for was dispensing Lake City Quiet 296 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Pills to lousy bastards in need of permanent rest since 297 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. Yes, and his email address was at 298 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: Lake City Quiet Pills dot com. So it would appear 299 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: then that he and Dutch Milo would both have access 300 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: to this or are the same person pretending to be 301 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: different people. But this is way back in two thousand 302 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: and one. I mean, this is really committing to the bit, 303 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: isn't it. And we have just to reiterate here. The 304 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: reddit user's name is two dash six and then this 305 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: is angel to dash six, except in this version on 306 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: farc it spelled out two six. And we also see 307 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: these different connections that a lot of us redditors have 308 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: made with the Lake City connection. Remember that redditor we 309 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: mentioned zaskoquan that's ojibe for fry bread. And we have 310 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: some named sister sythe who said that they were that 311 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: they identified the location of that map that two six 312 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: posted that it's a reservation at Fondu Lac. This means that, 313 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: in this redditor's opinion, Lake City could be a reference 314 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: to Duluth, Minnesota. But there's another and somewhat more compelling 315 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: argument for Lake City quiet pills. Yeah, it's in Missouri, 316 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: maybe because there's this thing called the Lake City Army 317 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Ammunition Plant. It's in Independence, Missouri. It was originally constructed 318 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty one by Uncle Sam. And it's one 319 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: of several government owned ammunition plants. That's where they make 320 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: all the bullets for the Army and Navy and Air 321 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Force and special Forces, all that stuff. And it's the 322 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: primary it's the United States primary production source for small 323 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: caliber rifle ammunition, hence a Lake City quiet pill. And 324 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: it's commonly referred to as Lake City ammo. And the 325 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: plant itself is pretty famous among shooters and handloaders. Most 326 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: people hadn't heard them being called quiet pills before. Most 327 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: of the American military surplus ammo that people do use 328 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: to shoot comes from Lake City. Like this place is 329 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: an enormous plant. There are people who let's go back 330 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: and forth on this. I like the word pro and 331 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: conning the truthiness of it. So there are other people 332 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: who think this is absolutely a hoax. Timeline be damned. 333 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: They say that. They say that Religion of Peace is 334 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: not a guy who served in the military in the 335 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: late forties, and they do some quotes because Religion of Pieces. 336 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: I was in the Navy until forty five. I didn't 337 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: see any land combat until Palestine in forty seven. I 338 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: saw it then both sides, and continued seeing it until 339 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I got too old. So if we walk through some 340 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: of the math, that would make him eighteen at least 341 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty five, meaning he was born earlier in 342 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty seven, which would make him eighty in two 343 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, around eighty two in two thousand and 344 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: nine when two six said that he passed away. So 345 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: maybe the story is changing, Maybe the guy is mistaken. 346 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: We don't know how well they knew each other. There's 347 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: another thing people try called contextual grammar analysis, and this 348 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: would be running a passage through a through an algorithm essentially, 349 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: or through some software that would guess the age of 350 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: the person writing. I don't know how you guys feel. 351 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: I think that's interesting science, but I don't know how dependable. 352 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: That is, I wouldn't bet the farm on it or 353 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: the strip mall. There's also seems to be a perspective 354 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: if you dig through some of the Reddit threads on 355 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: this subject, that a lot, if not all, of the 356 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: people involved in this ring and that we're posting on 357 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: this site were ex military where it was like a 358 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: ring of like former rangers and you know, high level, 359 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: highly trained military personnel, and that that kind of rings 360 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: true here to me. Yeah, I could definitely see it. 361 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: So if they're tied into let us say, for the 362 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: sake of argument, that the let us say, for the 363 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: sake of argument, that this is some sort of mercenary 364 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: or assassin ring or even an intelligence operation. The first 365 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: question would be, why would you put these kind of 366 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: notes in source code on a porn site, publicly available 367 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: porn site. It seems pretty easily discovered. Should we read 368 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: a couple more excerpts? Yeah, I think that's a great idea. 369 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: I got a really good one. This is the one 370 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: that really got to me from Religion of Peace, posted 371 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: seven years ago, and it got two points, you guys said, 372 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: and this is just an excerpt from it. Of course, 373 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: there are assassinations there are some things that the legal 374 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: system can't fix. So many people actually believe that as 375 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: fed up as things are right now, and as they 376 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: have been for the last twenty years, that they aren't needed. 377 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: I can think of any number of criminal organizations that 378 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: would benefit from a dose of Lake City quiet pills. 379 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: So there you have religion of Peace using that phrase. 380 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: In some of the other threads that I'm digging through here, 381 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: we have a perspective that some folks believed that this 382 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: language was almost written in a way that made it 383 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: sound like you would expect ex military to sound, or 384 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: like that the coded language talk was just so over 385 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the top as not to really be legit. But there's 386 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: actually another podcast called Thinking Sideways that did episode on this, 387 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: and they consulted, according to their post here on Reddit, 388 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: consulted a large number of ex military special experts, et cetera, 389 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: and they seemed to believe that, as you mentioned earlier, Ben, 390 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: it was simply more of an old school way of 391 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: speaking or writing these codes, and that most of them 392 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: that they showed it to felt that it was in 393 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: fact legit, which is interesting, goes you know, it's going 394 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: back and forth on this. If they are arranging assassinations 395 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: in real life, then we would be able to or 396 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: we would hope that we would be able to find 397 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: and an example of an assassination, you know what I mean. 398 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: Unless these people are just getting together and LARPing, Well, 399 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: there might have been one. There may be one example 400 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: right spot on Matt the assassination of Mahmud al Mammo. 401 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: Can we take a quick sponsor break before we hop 402 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: into the details of that case. Absolutely. As we mentioned 403 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: before the break, we do have more examples of these 404 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: comments that were found in the source code or in 405 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: the page source and we'll walk through a couple of 406 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: these and maybe see if they attach to a specific assassination. Right, So, 407 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: our first first example here would be January twenty ten 408 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: January twelfth, and it reads happy New Year everyone. We're 409 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: having a birthday party for the old man on the nineteenth. 410 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Party starts at fifteen hundred at the usual send you 411 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: or VP to shade listening to the shade keeps popping up. FYI, 412 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: We're booking a room for three days for anyone coming 413 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: from out of area and overnight for locals. Come hoist 414 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: one for Dutch Milo. Okay, So it's an invite to 415 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: a birthday party. That sounds innocuous, sounds fine. And then 416 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: on the eighteenth of January twenty ten, we see another message. 417 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: We got thirty eight rooms in the Marriotte on forty 418 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: six Shade has the key cards for locals. Pick up 419 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: at the party, give your travel name to the desk 420 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: and that's it. No ID needed since we're covering the bill. 421 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Keep the room surface under five hundred. Okay, it's lanky. 422 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: The phones are not secure. Bus from the hotel leaves 423 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: at thirteen p thirty, car service vouchers for return trip 424 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: when you're ready to crash. Don't DUI interesting wording here, Yes, 425 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm really interested in that thirty eight rooms. So this 426 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: is either a giant party or that's code for something right. 427 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Met. This also coincides with 428 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: that quote that Nol just read was on eighteen January 429 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: twenty ten, the day before there was an assassination in Dubai. 430 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: On nineteenth January twenty ten, a man named Mahmoud al 431 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: Mapum was assassinated. He was wanted by the Israeli government 432 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: for kidnapping and murder of two soldiers in eighty nine, 433 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: as well as purchasing arms for Iran from Iran for 434 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: use in Gaza. His assassination got a lot of international attention, 435 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: due in part to the belief that it was ordered 436 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: by the Israeli government and carried out by MASAD agents 437 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: holding fake or stolen passports from different European countries and Australia. 438 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: There were twenty six suspects. They were put on Interpool's 439 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Most Wanted list because of the timeline of the comments 440 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: and because of the timeline of the assassination, some investigators 441 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: believe that these are direct references right now, Yeah, and 442 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: I believe this occurrence. This assassination had a ton of 443 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: video related to it, a video in the hotel and 444 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: the lobby next to the rooms, video of people going 445 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: in and out of a room, and it was pretty 446 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: high profile. I remember onlivelyk at the time I saw something. 447 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: It's been a while and I couldn't find anything on 448 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: it in searching again. But this is really interesting way 449 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: it's lining up here, at least with the dates and 450 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: some of this lingo. And then a person on Reddit 451 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: who an account which is now deleted, went through and 452 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: kind of compared these two like what happened in real 453 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: life and then what happened on the site, and you know, 454 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stuff in there. You might want 455 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: to check it out. What's the best way for people 456 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: to find this? Ben If you go to the Reddit 457 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation, which is RBI, yes, which was great. 458 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: I recommend those folks awesome subreddit if you go there, 459 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: or you can just search in your net for Lake 460 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: City Quiet Pills and then assassination. Yeah. Throw in Reddit 461 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: if you want as a keyword, and I'll take you 462 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: right there. You might have to do some digging within 463 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: these these posts, but all this stuff exists out there 464 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: for you to kind of sink your teeth into and 465 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: dig deeper. And there's a thread I found where someone 466 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: was really starting to try to get serious about digging 467 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 1: in and finding some identities to associate with these folks. 468 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: And one of the responses is from a poster with 469 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: the handle Jason Lee with j A sn n LEA, 470 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: and the response is quote, if you are serious about this, 471 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: be careful. As others have mentioned before, the whole thing 472 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: could be a hoax. But I don't believe this is 473 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: a fifteen year hoax for funsies. The point being be cautious. 474 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: These people don't seem to f around use throwaway accounts 475 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: and secure VPNs, and then give some suggestions for good 476 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: VPNs to use. So yeah, I wouldn't want anybody sling 477 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: in Lake City quiet pills to roam around my house 478 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: or you know, around our office. That would be a 479 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: little creepy. And also also we want to say that 480 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: this has been investigated or dug into by many people, 481 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: including the Thinking Sideways podcast that Noel's mentioned, including numerous 482 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: redditors who did some great sleuthing. And you have to 483 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: wonder if there is a group of people who are 484 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: listening to shows like this, reading forums like the ones 485 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: we checked out for this episode. If you are there, 486 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: if you are listening, feel free to write to us. Yeah, no, 487 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: that that'd be great. You're giving me a trepidacious look. No, No, 488 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: I am interested in this line of work and it's 489 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: tough for me. You think I've a changing career. No, No, 490 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: although you would have, you'd have to tell us that 491 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: you weren't considering it though. Yeah, I can never go 492 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: back there. So I have a hard time arguing with 493 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: that logic that Religion of Peace states in that one 494 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: that one little post he made that there are messed 495 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: up people in this world and sometimes the you know, 496 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: law can't reach them. The long arm of the law 497 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: isn't long enough, and sometimes they have to go. And 498 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's a tough thing to wrap your head around. 499 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: It's a tough thing for me to even stomach a 500 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: little bit. But I feel like he might be right. 501 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: There might be a necessity for some kind of extra 502 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: judicial killing. I think is absolutely right. I mean, whether 503 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: or not it's philosophically right, the fact of the matter 504 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: is that this does occur. You know, we live in 505 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: an era and a time when we have to ask 506 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: ourselves an honest question of this species. Right. Are there 507 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: really more skeletons in the closets of the of you know, 508 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: the various nation states or is it just easier to 509 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: see into those closets. I don't think the number of 510 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: skeletons has necessarily changed. I think it's just easier for 511 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: people to learn about things like extraordinary rendition or black sites, 512 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: or assassinations carried out by other intelligence agencies. If you 513 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: get into the murky world of real politic. This is 514 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, which is the first time 515 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: I've ever used that figure of speech. Well, you folks 516 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: out there, you want to send us some of your sausage? 517 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh weird? Do you make sausage at your house? Like 518 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: I would genuinely be interested in trying yourself. I'm just 519 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: trying to diffuse the diffuse the situation. Ramsey gave me, thankfully, 520 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: a really awesome jar of Chipotle mustard that exists in 521 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: our refrigerator right now, and it would go really well 522 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: with any kind of you know, Polish sausage. If you 523 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: want to tell us how your sausage is made, you 524 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: can send us stuff. We have various ways you can 525 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: do that. But before we list off those ways robotically, 526 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: why don't we do a little shout out corner. Our 527 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: first shout out today comes from Morgan and I'm a 528 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: massive fan of this femail. It starts off, Hey guys, 529 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: agent liquid Cupcake checking in. I think who's referring to 530 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: the end of the episode on the Counterculture where we 531 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: said we would give people nicknames, operative names. Choose your 532 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: own nickname, secret issy name. This is great. Just wanted 533 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: to drop an angle on you that wasn't particularly covered 534 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: in the counter Culture episode you just released. Let me 535 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: start by saying, first off, that I am not some 536 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: sort of nitrogen based extra planner life form that lives 537 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: outside of time as it is understood in the set 538 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: of dimensions, and because of that, I was certainly not 539 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: the same age I am now, nor was I even 540 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: alive during the nineteen sixties on Earth. Thank you for that. 541 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: Before the rise of the counterculture, most people in the 542 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: US had a much more right leaning, independent and small 543 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: government mindset that made it hard for things like ARPA 544 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: and domestic spying to exist. The rise of left wing 545 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: politics and social programs as a result, created a normalization 546 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: of government intervention and everyday lives of citizens in the US. This, 547 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: coupled with the constant security threat of proxy war with 548 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: the great enemy of the time, Russia, led to the 549 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: idea that defense spending and government secrecy was not only tolerable, 550 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: but essential to daily life. This led eventually to the 551 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: current state of affairs in which the CIA has near 552 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: total access to what amounts to voluntary provided social modeling 553 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: and behavioral data. Just a reminder, time travel is not 554 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 1: real and I do not live forever. Have a good day, 555 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: of which there are a finite number for every person 556 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: myself included well done, Liquid Cupcake, thank you for writing 557 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: to us. I really enjoyed that one too. And that 558 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: is an interesting angle when we go into the ramifications 559 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: or consequences of such a paradigm shift. You know, like 560 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: if we had described the kind of surveillance that exists 561 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: now to our grandparents' generation or something, it would sound insane, 562 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: sound dystopian. Dude, you guys, I watched All the President's 563 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: Men last night. You remember this movie, Robert Redford. It's 564 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: all all about Watergate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And one of 565 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: the main things is that surveillance, and they start to 566 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: realize that, wait, they're surveilling all of us. I mean, 567 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: this is a country where several very powerful government agencies 568 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: existed off the books for years, you know, and this, 569 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: of course this leads us to think, like, what else 570 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: could be out there that we don't know about, you know. Yeah, 571 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: but especially at a time when it was completely not 572 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: thought that that could happen, that perhaps an executive branch 573 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: could work directly with an intelligence agency and collect data 574 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: on as many people as possible. The next one comes 575 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: from Bonnie. She says, I'm a longtime listener. I love 576 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: the show Bonnie, you're the best. She didn't write that 577 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,479 Speaker 1: you put that part in. That's so true. Your showing 578 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: others of how stuff works helped me through my many 579 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: law boring workdays. Oh man, you guys know how those are. Okay. 580 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: So I was listening to your recent Nazi Bell episode 581 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: when you referenced the Kexsburg incident. However, you said Kexsburg, Kentucky. 582 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: But it's actually Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. Oh oops, that's our bad. 583 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm originally from western Pennsylvania, not far from Kecksburg, and 584 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: we would often call this backwoods part of the state 585 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: Pennsylentucky because of its similarity to Kentucky. As a matter 586 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: of fact, this part of the state has even stood 587 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: in for Kentucky. I'm assuming in film or in media 588 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: in some way the show Justified. Yes, here we go 589 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: answering my question. The show Justified was supposed to take 590 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: place in Kentucky, but some of the scenes were actually 591 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: filmed not far from Kecksburg, so your error was rather amusing. 592 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: Bonnie also gave us some really fun information about reactor, 593 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: a nuclear reactor, and all kinds of good stuff in 594 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: her email, But we're not gonna read the whole thing. 595 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: We're just gonna thank you Bonnie for writing to us 596 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: and for correcting us. Yes, this is this is the 597 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: most important part of the show. Thank you for keeping 598 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: us honest, Bunnie, and also teaching us a little bit 599 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: about Pencil Tucky, which I haven't I haven't visited yet, 600 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to traveling. Let's make our last 601 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: shout out here very very short and sweet one. Keith G. 602 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: You wrote in briefly and you said, Hi, guys, love 603 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: the show. I'm a longtime listener from Gloucester, England. Can 604 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: you please do me a shout out? Thank you for 605 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: the cool podcast. Cheers Keith. Keith, you get straight to 606 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: the point, is it, chief? Keith? Is it k I 607 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: E F It's k e e f mm Okay, So 608 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: so shout out to you, Keith. And this concludes our 609 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: as well as our episode, but not the show itself. 610 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: Have no fear. We will be back, unless, of course, 611 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: we take a dose of Lake City quiet pill. Hey stop. 612 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: You can hear from us on Friday. In the meantime, 613 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: you can find us on Instagram, you can find us 614 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: on Facebook, We're on Twitter. We're doing all sorts of stuff. 615 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: You can check out every episode that Noel, Matt and 616 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: I have ever done on our website Deep Breath stuff 617 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know dot Com. And we 618 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: have a few announcements actually just as we sew this up. 619 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: So we have been gone from the world of YouTube 620 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: for a while, you guys. Yes, we've been doing some 621 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: different things. Yes, it's been too long. We shouldn't have 622 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: left you without a dope beat this step two. But 623 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: we have been working behind the scenes Noel, Matt and 624 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: I very closely on a new video that is out now. 625 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: It is live. You can watch it for free on Amazon, 626 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: and we'll be posting this everywhere. You may recall we 627 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: did an audio episode about the Georgia guidestones. This is 628 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 1: a more in depth exploration that from the video angle, 629 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: and we have Matt as our behind the camera sorcerer, 630 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: and we have Noel giving an exclusive interview with stuff 631 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: about the guidestones that you're not gonna hear anywhere else. 632 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: It's not really exclusive. I here all the time. You 633 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: got that. You can ask me anything. So if you 634 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: were a fan of that episode, this is really going 635 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: to flesh out a lot of what we talked about 636 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot of what Noel said his story in relation 637 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: to the guidestones and to Wyatt se Martin and is 638 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: narrated by Ben. So you have those dulcet tones coming through, 639 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: riding all the way to the end. I love it. 640 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: It makes me happy having you in there. And then 641 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: Noel comes in gives his interviews, then we get back 642 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: to Ben. I feel like sometimes you get a little 643 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: puppet mastery. Well wait oh, when I'm behind, when I'm editing, 644 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: I just you know, you call this marionettes that one 645 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: time to my little playthings that I make move around 646 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: on the TV. No puppet. Okay, you're popping. Just a 647 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: few more things about this video that exists, all right, 648 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 1: So it's on Amazon. You can watch it for free 649 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: if you have Prime. You can also watch it with commercials. 650 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: If you don't have Prime, and it's on Amazon dot 651 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: com slash. I think you just search in there for 652 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,719 Speaker 1: a video or Amazon Prime video and you can click 653 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: on it and watch it there. If you enjoyed the 654 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: audio podcast, you're gonna love this video because it really 655 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: shows you the story that we discussed on air. So 656 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: take the time watch it. It's about twenty minutes long. 657 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: It's good. Yeah, and that you're a perfectionist. So if 658 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:41,720 Speaker 1: you're saying it's good, then it's really really worth the time. 659 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: If you're feeling charitable or generous, feel free to leave 660 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: us a review. And our very last thing, you guys, 661 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 1: Our show is sold out. Yeah, the New York show 662 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: on April eighth. You can't come anymore unless you already 663 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: have a ticket. That's mean, Matt. You could probably still 664 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: get scalp our tickets outside or check out stub Hub 665 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: or something, you know how those things go. Yeah, you 666 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: guys know, I like to sell I like to scalp 667 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: tickets on the side. Don't pay fifty dollars to see us. 668 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: I will only accept ben bucks actually, but uh never 669 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: fear if you want to. If you want to go 670 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: to the show and you haven't been able to get in, 671 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: but you're in New York, right to us because we 672 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: are probably gonna put together some kind of like hangout 673 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: thing if you want to go grab a beverage with us. 674 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: We also have a few surprises in store for the 675 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: for the Big Apple, so stay tuned on that. And 676 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: in the meantime, if you have suggestions for an upcoming topic, 677 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: if you have cracked the code of the Lake City 678 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: Quiet Pills. If you are indeed Dutch Milo Return from 679 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: the Dead, or if you know them pretty Dutch Yeah yeah, 680 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: Angel two six maybe yeah. Write to us, let us 681 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: know what you think. We are conspiracy at houstuffworks dot 682 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: com