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Speaker 1: right now, let's stay in the AFC North and let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little Ravens Sashy Brown. He came out he

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Speaker 1: has something to say plex about the Ravens and their reputation,

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Speaker 1: and here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 3: I want to I think it's a slow news cycle.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to at all.

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Speaker 3: Downplay the experience.

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Speaker 5: That that Max had coming that we all had the

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Speaker 5: Raiders Ravens Max.

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Speaker 4: Our locker room.

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Speaker 5: As Eric said, we were incredibly excited and just as equally,

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Speaker 5: if not more, disappointed that we want able to pull

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Speaker 5: off that transaction and bring Max to Baltimore. I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to go too much deeper into that to answer

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Speaker 5: your specific question. We've got strong and long relationships across

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Speaker 5: the league. We have emphasized the importance of doing things

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Speaker 5: the right way. We'll continue to do that, and we

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Speaker 6: It is a headline store because of its profile and significance.

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Speaker 6: We believe, you know, our relationships to the extent that

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Speaker 7: People understand who we are and what we're about. A

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Speaker 7: lot of them understands that as well. But when you

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Speaker 7: have high profile transactions like this and opportunities like this,

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Speaker 7: it's unfortunate. But sometimes these sense who have no fault

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Speaker 4: It's just where pleasure.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this and listen, I think, Sashi is that's

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Speaker 1: And he would be totally accurate and correct in his assertion.

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Speaker 3: But plex you know, there's two things that have well one.

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Speaker 1: Really that was a big one that circulated was basically,

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Speaker 1: it might very well be the reputation of the Baltimore

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Speaker 3: To me, it spells micro fractures.

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Speaker 1: It says microfraction You all across it, write it out,

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Speaker 1: like the world is yours when it was the alpacino

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Speaker 1: looking at it in scarface, It's gonna say microfractures. And

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Speaker 1: if you understand microfractures in our world, especially guys like yourself,

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Speaker 1: and do different things. A simple a simple scope of

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Speaker 1: not a big deal. But when you're talking about getting

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Speaker 1: I mean, and the report came out he felt his

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at a knee that was repaired, the

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Speaker 1: They only use Matt Crosby. He's really hurt. He's really hurt.

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Speaker 1: And and and what they're seeing, what they saw when

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Speaker 1: they did that, that evaluation of him physically. I don't

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for what they're not saying, But if

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Speaker 1: And the fact that they're staying professional, professional enough to

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Speaker 1: a way where it's like, yeah, the dude has microfractures.

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Speaker 1: When you have microfractures, that means that your your cartilage

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Speaker 3: And once you get.

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Speaker 1: Bone on bone, it's a matter of how how much

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Speaker 1: for how long? That's my take on it. Plex. I

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Speaker 8: You know what they say, they failed the physical I

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Speaker 8: don't know how much I believe the the what is

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Speaker 8: physical side of Max Carosby after this and get to

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Speaker 8: more of the reputation side of the Baltimore Ravens. I

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Speaker 8: don't know about you, but I know that when when

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Speaker 8: take your side on this one.

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Speaker 4: Because if you show up to.

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Speaker 8: A facility and you get out of the car van,

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Speaker 8: you walk into the building for five hours and you

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Speaker 8: don't see Eric da Costa. You don't see the general managers.

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Speaker 8: You don't see the head coach, jesse Mina, you don't

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Speaker 8: see Sager, you don't see anybody on your visit to

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Speaker 3: You gotta get the hell up out of there.

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Speaker 1: You got to get out of there absolutely first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: When I went to the Giants, Tom Coughlin standing outside earlier,

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Speaker 8: CORSEI Mster Merrill, the whole organization is outside. When I

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Speaker 8: Johnson standing outside of Dangley and Thomason, Mike Tannebaum, uh Rex.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's outside to greet a new guy, especially approving guy.

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Speaker 8: When you're bringing in one of the top five defensive players.

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Speaker 1: He's a franchise guy position. You don't have a no

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Speaker 4: I mean not just and nobody's there to greet him.

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Speaker 4: I've never heard or seen anything like that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that is the reputation of the Baltimore Ravens that

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Speaker 4: That's fire, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 8: But getting back to the physical part of it, they're

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Speaker 8: saying that he felt a physical. So now he's back

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I.

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Speaker 8: Want to see it's going to be the tell all

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Speaker 8: you know what, he's going to be in OTA's and

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Speaker 8: he's going to start and open the day and if.

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Speaker 4: He's he he's going to play off sixteen games.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know how team doctors from one organization

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Speaker 8: can't pass the physical, we can't sign to a contract,

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Speaker 8: but he can go back to the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 4: Nothing's wrong.

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Speaker 8: That's what I don't understand about these teams doctors in

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Speaker 8: you for us to take Trey Henderson.

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Speaker 4: Than Max Crosby.

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Speaker 8: Just come out and say that, because when he goes

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Speaker 8: out and he plays well and he dominates, everybody's going

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Speaker 8: to be looking at the Baltimore Ravens like, what are

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Speaker 8: you talking about this guy? This guy is the same

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Speaker 8: player that he was do you before.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna say. With micro fractures, you can play,

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Speaker 1: you can play, and you can play well. Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: is wired in a way where he can get out

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Speaker 1: there and he can play, and he can be effective

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Speaker 1: and be Max Crosby. And the only person that's going

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Speaker 1: to know how much pain he's in is him and

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Speaker 1: maybe the person that his loved ones. They may be

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Speaker 1: the only ones that know the level of pain that

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Speaker 1: that man is the reason why I think it's first

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Speaker 1: of all, anybody can get failed for any any reason

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Speaker 1: time you get to this point in his career, there's

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Speaker 1: anything that you can find that you could use as

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Speaker 1: a reason to fail somebody on their physical That's first

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Speaker 1: I remember when I came to the Giants and I

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Speaker 1: it and he was like, yeah, you got some holes. He's like,

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Speaker 8: I understand he came out and said, you know, number

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Speaker 4: That's all I can say.

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Speaker 8: Oh that one, you put one number on the shelf

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Speaker 1: That definitely will be a top selling art item. DeAndre

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 1: You got Chador changing his number back to the old school.

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Speaker 8: Okay, what you got you saying that Shador saying is

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Speaker 8: Okay, First of all, Jimmy has didn't want Eric Andrew

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, so he's changed his number.

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Speaker 3: Back to number two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right two, which is so is Dad war

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Speaker 8: So maybe Todd Monky can come in and get Dshaun

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Speaker 8: that you draft your Door Sanders, Jimmy Jimmy Adams, the

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Speaker 8: the football field this year, if you're Andrew Berry in

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Speaker 8: the Cleveland Browns, then Andrew Berry is going to be

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Speaker 8: fired as the general manager for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: Mark my word.

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Speaker 8: But from a quarterback standpoint, the competition, the quarterback competition,

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Speaker 8: this one is going to be based off of forty

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Speaker 8: six million dollars. And we know whose salary that is,

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Speaker 8: and that is Deshaun Watson. Nobody's even talking about Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: Not even talking about him.

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Speaker 4: They're not even talking about Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 8: Now, Jimmy hasm has already co signed Deshaun Watson, and

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Speaker 8: that who is that?

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Speaker 4: Who? Todd Mounkin and Andrew.

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Speaker 8: Berry are going to go with and Deshaun Watson is

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Speaker 8: going to be the opening day starting quarterback for the Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense for it to happen that way. It

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Speaker 1: really does make sense. And all the reasoning you're not

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Speaker 1: going against the owner.

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Speaker 3: You're not.

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Speaker 1: But but with that being said, the upside of Shador

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Speaker 1: Sanders in this case, I think even offsets what you

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Speaker 1: just said. I think the potential of what Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: could be for this Cleveland Browns franchise offsets the idea

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Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson having to start. He has so much

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Speaker 1: fan fear, he has so much backing, and and he's

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Speaker 1: pretty dagone good. He's a good ballplayer. I really believe

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Speaker 1: that we have no idea what we're going to see

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Speaker 1: from Deshaun Watson. When's the last time we seen him play,

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Speaker 1: Like twenty seventeen, something like that.

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Speaker 3: That's a long time ago. It's been a long it's

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Speaker 3: been a while, he's been hurt. It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's been too long to assume or think

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Speaker 1: that this man is going to come back and light

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Speaker 1: the world on fire.

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Speaker 11: I did.

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Speaker 8: I didn't say he's going to light prob just believe

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Speaker 8: that he's the best quarterback on the roster at this time.

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Speaker 1: Might be, But the problem you're facing is is if

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Speaker 1: he comes back and you gotta assume there's going to

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Speaker 1: be rusted from how long he's been off.

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Speaker 3: If he comes back and he's.

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Speaker 1: Not good, and he's not good immediately, the level of

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Speaker 1: judgment is going to be so high. He does not

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Speaker 1: have a fair opportunity to ease his way back in.

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Speaker 3: He does not. I mean, but the what if is

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Speaker 3: a big what if.

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Speaker 1: I think the what if he is I am, I am,

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Speaker 1: but but my what if is based off of I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm going what if?

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Speaker 1: You and you know why, because his what if has

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Speaker 1: been on the bench, he has not even played. What

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Speaker 1: if is based off of him being hurt. My what

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Speaker 1: if is based off of him not playing. My what

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Speaker 1: if is what has he done to produce for this

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns team since he's been there.

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Speaker 3: It's not been a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: So my what if is more rooted in what he

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Speaker 1: hasn't done versus what he has done. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a safer bet when you have a guy like Shador

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Speaker 1: Sanders who has captured the audience's imaginations. It's he's a

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Speaker 1: fan and a crowd favorite.

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Speaker 4: They don't care about that. They do, you know, they.

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Speaker 3: Don't, not as much as they do the money, But

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Speaker 3: they do care about it.

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Speaker 8: They do care about objective for the for Todd Muntkin

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Speaker 8: and Andrew Berrys win football games.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to start to door sat as.

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Speaker 1: If he might not be a better option to win

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Speaker 1: games than Deshaun Watson is today. Deshaun Watson and Houston,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm all the way with you.

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Speaker 8: Deshaun Watson the benefit of the doubt that he's the

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Speaker 8: better quarterback than than Shador Sanders when he's one hundred

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Speaker 8: percent healthy. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the.

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Speaker 4: Doubt today, when he's healthy today, when he's healthy.

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Speaker 1: So healthy today, Deshaun Watson is the starter. We're in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we're in twenty we're hitting into the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six seeds.

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Speaker 4: I know what year it is.

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Speaker 1: The last time he was good was in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: The last time he made the Pro Bowl was in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I'm just saying that's that's considered to be

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Speaker 1: a volatile asset, that they're in possession of right now.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If that's a stock that you want me to bet

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Speaker 1: on and put my money on and let it ride.

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Speaker 1: And I got and I got Shador Sanders, and I

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Speaker 1: had Dylan Gabriel, which I have not had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to really see what my third round drive pick really

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Speaker 1: brings to the table because of the pressure that Shador

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Speaker 1: Sanders being.

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Speaker 3: Drafted placed on his position. Whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: The given circumstances are what they are, but Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: is to me, door Sanders is the one until he's not.

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Speaker 8: I just can't see the Cleveland Browns having Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 8: on the sideline if the if the quarterback competition is

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Speaker 8: close and this man is making forty six.

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Speaker 3: No I agree, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I disagree with if the competition is close,

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Speaker 1: But even if like so, okay, so we're still doing

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Speaker 1: what is because I mean, obviously that's what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: And then you could say you were right or you

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Speaker 1: could say, man, I was wrong. If the Quarterback Challenge

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Speaker 1: competition is close and Deshaun Watson were to win the job,

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Speaker 1: it's still not a solidified role.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing here.

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Speaker 1: There's never gonna be any and for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be any comfort for

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Speaker 1: either one of them or any of the three of them.

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Speaker 1: There will never be comfort as long as Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: is there, unless.

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Speaker 3: He gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Unless he gets hurt, and then still I think Shador

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Speaker 1: is confident in the Dylan Gabriel challenge. If I'm Shador,

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Speaker 1: I'm confident in that one. I'm not all the way

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Speaker 1: confident if it's DeShawn because one, he has proven he

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Speaker 1: can play, and two, the amount of money connected to

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Speaker 1: him is going to talk.

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Speaker 3: Money is going to talk. I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's any comfort to Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: if he were to win the starting job that you

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Speaker 1: have the job, show us you can win for us.

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Speaker 1: Let's get through this season, Let's have a good season.

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Speaker 1: That's not how it's gonna work. It's not how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna work.

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Speaker 8: I can't wait to hear what's coming out of Cleveland

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00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 8: mandatory Minicamp. On the first day of mandatory minicamp, and

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Speaker 8: the offense takes the.

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Speaker 4: Field and Deshaun Watson's going to be first quarterback on

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Speaker 4: theer cent him.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is going to be one. He has to

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Speaker 1: be one again for all the.

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Speaker 8: Things that you're saying, you're not saying that.

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Speaker 1: All the things you've highlighted day one coming into too

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Speaker 1: mini camp, Deshaun Watson most likely has to be the

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Speaker 1: number one. But I don't think because of the money.

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Speaker 3: But I don't.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that it stays that way, and

575
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Speaker 1: I don't know for how long it stays that way.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the money is going to protect him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the money makes it a safe situation

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Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson to just transition back into being the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: I do head coach, new head coach, I think codint.

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Speaker 1: I think that those things play in favor to me,

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Speaker 1: to Shador Sanders because he's more current, He's got more

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Speaker 1: game experience than Deshaun Watson does.

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Speaker 8: Right now the new offense at the same exact.

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Speaker 1: Time, it'd be like bringing against It'd be like bringing

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Speaker 1: a guy it It'd be no different than him keeping

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Speaker 1: competing against Time Brady to get a starting job. It'd

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Speaker 1: be like bringing a guy out of retirement to come

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Speaker 1: in and play to try to win the starting job

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Speaker 1: off of a guy that's currently been playing. That's how

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Speaker 1: long Deshaun Watson has not been a factor in playing

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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. It'd be like bringing a guy

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Speaker 1: out of retirement. I don't I do not know what

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Speaker 1: we're going to see when he comes back to play.

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Speaker 1: I do not know what we're going to see. And

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Speaker 1: to me, if I'm the Cleveland Brown's, you had better

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Speaker 1: take that into serious consideration. Millions of dollars guaranteed or not.

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Speaker 1: They already listen, they already took their dive on it.

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Speaker 1: They took their walk on it. They said last year,

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Speaker 1: they said last year, this was a bus we didn't

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Speaker 1: it didn't work out. They already they've already written him off.

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Speaker 1: He's already Shawn Watson has already been written off.

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Speaker 8: They have to get some type of ROI from Deshaun.

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Speaker 3: Watson, possibly potentially, but I don't think.

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Speaker 1: But they've already they already did their tax right off off.

606
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Speaker 1: When they said it didn't work out, they moved on.

607
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: They drifted two quarterbacks. I'm just saying, if it if

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Speaker 1: it were not to work out before he even gets

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Speaker 1: to the season. I don't think they have any problem

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Speaker 1: with the idea of Deshaun Watson not proving out for

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Speaker 1: this last year of his contract, because he hasn't proved

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Speaker 1: out for any of the years of his contract. Yes,

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Speaker 1: last less resort effort to try to do it. I

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00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: agree with you, Does it really happen in reality?

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Speaker 3: I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: If I'm betting, if we're betting on this and and

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Speaker 1: and we're going to the polls or we're going to Okay,

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Speaker 1: the owner does, I mean.

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Speaker 8: He's very excited he is for Deshaun Watson and his

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Speaker 8: fresh to compete, to compete quarterback for the Cleveland Brown

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Speaker 8: ain't gonna pan out? Well, that's that's what they.

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Speaker 1: Was excited enough to give him that guarantee contract. How

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Speaker 1: that workout?

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Speaker 3: Anyways?

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Speaker 1: in about six minutes time, and he's gonna shed some

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Speaker 1: light on this for us.

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Speaker 3: I know he will because he just brings it that way.

659
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Speaker 1: But Plexico I was talking to Patty during the break

660
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Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, yeah, we do have the

661
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: man Eater leftovers coming up.

662
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: Uh in just about we'll say twenty seven minutes.

663
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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm heating them up right, seventeen minutes, how about that,

664
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go seven to a minute. Yeah, she heats

665
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: it on. She gives you leftovers, man. But yeah, global gaming,

666
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: that's one thing that we should talk about as well

667
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: before we get going with Patty. Professional wrestling fans. Uh, well,

668
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: not global gaming, but we already did that. Professional wrestling, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we need to do. The action continues. Yeah,

670
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: you can check out TNA Thursday Night Impact every week.

671
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Don't miss it because you know that there's the drama,

672
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: the adrenaline, the NonStop action that you can get by

673
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: doing it. So make sure you check out TNA Wrestling

674
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Stars and show times and the information you could get

675
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: it at TNA Wrestling dot Com, Patty just cut that

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Speaker 1: battleship that Mike Florio is talking about be based upon

677
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Speaker 1: what we were talking about during the break. Does that

678
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Speaker 1: battleship have at eighteen? The number eight? Is it the

679
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Speaker 1: number eighteen battleship that's pulling up to the NFLPA, Allen,

680
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Speaker 1: what do you got?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, actually, you're right, the eighteen game expansion is being

683
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Speaker 11: brought up to the table. In fact, the owners were

684
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Speaker 11: actually talking about that just recently. I have actually two

685
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Speaker 11: in particular that we're reaching out about it. So first

686
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Speaker 11: we had Robert Kraft, the Patriots owner, was saying that

687
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Speaker 11: not only is he for it, it's not even an

688
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 11: if it's a win, but he wants another bye week

689
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Speaker 11: added the schedule, and he even was saying he wants

690
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Speaker 11: preseason games to get trimmed down.

691
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Speaker 3: From three to two and one more.

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Speaker 11: With that caveat, he also believes every team should play

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Speaker 11: an international game at least one. And then there's a

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Speaker 11: second owner we have here, So Colt's owner, carly erse Gordon,

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Speaker 11: is also in favor of the eighteen game schedule, especially

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Speaker 11: if the players want it, as she points but she

697
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Speaker 11: was pointing out that the way that the current seventeen

698
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Speaker 11: game slate is. It's just it's not quite feasible. Some

699
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Speaker 11: teams get eight home games instead of nine during a season,

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Speaker 11: and she was really really hammering home the preseason she

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Speaker 11: wants it to be reduced. It's as far as like

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Speaker 11: the product. I actually have a quote from her preseason

703
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Speaker 11: is as far as the fan product goes. I know

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Speaker 11: the commissioner has been open. That's not the best product

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Speaker 11: that we have. I would say for the development of

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Speaker 11: our team. I don't think we can get rid of it.

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Speaker 3: End quote.

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Speaker 1: Plex Is it the eighteen games that they're at that

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Speaker 1: Mike Florio is potentially discussing.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but I like it. I'm forward if

711
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Speaker 8: they get that. If the guys can get the extra

712
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Speaker 8: by week two, by weeks during the football season, I

713
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Speaker 8: believe the guys will go for But as far as

714
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Speaker 8: every team should play an international football game, I don't

715
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Speaker 8: agree with that. Why is that because the product of

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Speaker 8: it is not it's not secure.

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Speaker 4: You know uh what, green Baby.

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Speaker 8: I believe went to Brazil last year and the players

719
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Speaker 8: can't even leave the hotel. I don't want to be

720
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Speaker 8: under that kind of pressure. If I'm a professional athlete

721
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Speaker 8: being in environments where I can't even go outside. So

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Speaker 8: those are those are some of some of the things

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Speaker 8: that the players are complaining about. And and it kind

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Speaker 8: of you know, throws you off from a you know,

725
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Speaker 8: everyday schedule. I played the first inaugurable game in Wembley

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Speaker 8: Stadium against the Miami Dolphins, and it and it wasn't

727
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Speaker 8: fully you know, what we expected.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't what.

729
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Speaker 3: Was the experience?

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Speaker 4: What was it? It was?

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Speaker 8: It was just, you know, uh, nothing went the way

732
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Speaker 8: that we wanted to know. We landed at seven o'clock

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Speaker 8: in the morning, and it took us two and a

734
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Speaker 8: half hours to get to the hotel a by bus

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Speaker 8: and then it took us we got to the hotel,

736
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Speaker 8: we checked in, I believe it was like nine thirty

737
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Speaker 8: ten am. Then the practice field was two hours away. Yeah, yes,

738
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Speaker 8: every day and it was it was just you know, food,

739
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Speaker 8: all those things. But it was a great experience because

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Speaker 8: we won the football game. We beat the Miami Dolphins.

741
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Speaker 8: But the players are not fans of playing overseas.

742
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Speaker 1: That's interesting, that is definitely are they are not. Well,

743
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what else is interesting. Getting the opinions

744
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Speaker 1: and the energy. We'll say from one of the strongest

745
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Speaker 1: men in media, one of the prettiest men in sports media,

746
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Speaker 1: d one and only Pete Prisco, NFL columnists, CBS Sports,

747
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: CBS Sports x Q analysts and just all around Pete Prisco.

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Speaker 1: That's what we say. Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling, man, LaVar you're hosting today? I

750
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 3: like it, you know. I I tend to do this thing.

751
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: I've been in this game since you were doing You know,

752
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Speaker 1: I had a show that you used to come on

753
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: that actually had my name on it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 9: I remember I used to argue with you and win

756
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Speaker 9: all the.

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Speaker 1: Time, and you like you're continuing to win. But this

758
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Speaker 1: one doesn't happen to be well, maybe it could end

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Speaker 1: up being an argument. Uh. And by the way, we

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Speaker 1: do have Plexico burs and Pete Pete plex plex p

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Uh.

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Speaker 3: Pete, what what what? What's Mike Florio talking about?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Lourina, can you queue up Mike Florio's statement on

764
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Speaker 1: the battleship because I know what my battleship is, Pete,

765
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: and and and I move around with that bad boy

766
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Speaker 1: and and and when I went when the battleship comes out,

767
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: something's getting conquered, Pete. But for some strange reason, I

768
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Speaker 1: feel like Mike Florio's talking about something different with this

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Speaker 1: NFL battleship that he's speaking on.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 12: It's almost like the NFLPA is being run like the

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Speaker 12: Lord of the Flies and a battleship is about to

773
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Speaker 12: pull up to the island with the NFL shield flying

774
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Speaker 12: from the mast because they're not ready for what's coming next.

775
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Speaker 12: I think from the league's perspective. Number One, they have

776
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Speaker 12: been sitting back and they have been waiting for the

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Speaker 12: NFLPA to get their act together.

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Speaker 1: Threat it was like three threats that were issued out

779
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Speaker 1: in what Mike Florio had to say. One, the battleship

780
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Speaker 1: is pulling up. Two they're not ready. Three we've been

781
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Speaker 1: waiting for the NFLPA to get their act together. Do

782
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Speaker 1: you have any context that you can put on what

783
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Speaker 1: Mike Florio is basically saying in terms of what the

784
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Speaker 1: NFL is doing or what they're feeling as it applies

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Speaker 1: to the nfl PA.

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Speaker 9: Well, the eighteen game seasons coming for sure.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there we go, Okay, yeah, that's a given.

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Speaker 9: Then and by the way, there is no dates in

789
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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years date means.

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Speaker 9: But here's I think that's all he's talking about. But

792
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 9: the reality is, you put eighteen games in, you got it.

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Speaker 9: Normally in a negotiation like that, you get something back.

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00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 9: So maybe he's referencing the fact that if the union

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Speaker 9: is not strong enough that they're not going to get

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Speaker 9: anything back. Look, and here's the other thing. If you're

797
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Speaker 9: gonna get at games, you got to get more money.

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Speaker 9: You got to do something with the preseason like dump it.

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Speaker 3: You got to have a larger roster too, right, larger roster.

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Speaker 9: And here's the other part of it. What are you

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Speaker 9: gonna do with the off season now? Because I'm a

802
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 9: big believer in you guys know better than me. But

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Speaker 9: I think guys overtrained now, and I think that's why

804
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 9: we see a lot of soft tissue injuries and stuff

805
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 9: that's maybe more so even prevalent than when you guys played,

806
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Speaker 9: because you think about it, when the season ends, guys

807
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 9: go to those facilities that they pay a lot of

808
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Speaker 9: money to and train hard. Then when you get to

809
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 9: your off season program, you train hard. Then you have

810
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 9: all the mini camps and then you get right back.

811
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Speaker 9: You get a month off, and what do guys do

812
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Speaker 9: in that month off? They go train at one of

813
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Speaker 9: those facilities, and then they come back in his training camp.

814
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Speaker 9: So I think there's something to be said about too

815
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Speaker 9: much training being done in the off season, and maybe

816
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 9: the NFL PA and needs to push to get some

817
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Speaker 9: of that back from the team.

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Speaker 3: Go up, plaque, you got him.

819
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like I said before, I'm all in favor

821
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Speaker 8: for the eighteen game. I don't believe that has anything

822
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Speaker 8: to do with the PA. If the owners want it,

823
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Speaker 8: it's going to happen. The PA can't stop anything that

824
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Speaker 8: the owners you want to do. As far as this

825
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Speaker 8: eighteen game is concerned, especially with that extra by week,

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Speaker 8: I mean, how could you not want to want that

827
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Speaker 8: as a player, And we was getting down to you know,

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Speaker 8: one team will have nine games, the other team will

829
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Speaker 8: have eight. Well, they're always around that based on if

830
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Speaker 8: you win your division and how many home games you

831
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Speaker 8: win and different things like that. But the eighteen game

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Speaker 8: season is going to happen. But the international schedule, as

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Speaker 8: far as every team playing, I believe that somebody in

834
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Speaker 8: the PA, all the players are going to have to

835
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Speaker 8: step up because they are all not fans of playing internationally.

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Speaker 8: And I know that personally.

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Speaker 9: Well, and I agree with you, and I be looking

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Speaker 9: at forty nine ers and Rams playing Week one Australia.

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Speaker 9: You're kidding me. That's ridiculous that that should never happen.

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Speaker 4: Flight.

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Speaker 9: But here's the and this is what Florio's I think

842
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Speaker 9: referred and when it comes to stuff like that, yeah,

843
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 9: you're doing that stuff. But if there's going to be

844
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Speaker 9: a bigger pie, you know what I mean, Like, if

845
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 9: you expand internationally, the pie grows, and when the pie grows,

846
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Speaker 9: that means that the player salaries also grow. So there's

847
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Speaker 9: going to be some give and take there. And I

848
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Speaker 9: think that's where you're right. They're not stopping the eighteen

849
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Speaker 9: game season. That's not happening. But what they can do

850
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Speaker 9: if you're a strong union is get back a lot

851
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Speaker 9: of stuff for the players and negotiate. Okay, we'll do

852
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 9: the eighteen games, but we want this, this and this,

853
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 9: and we want more of the pie, and we want

854
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Speaker 9: you know that kind of stuff, and we want less

855
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Speaker 9: time around the facility, and we want the rosters to

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00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 9: be bigger. We want more guys on the practice squad.

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Speaker 9: We want the ability to call guys up in certain

858
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Speaker 9: situations so you can change things. And that's what he's referencing,

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Speaker 9: because the Union needs to grow a backbone and be

860
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Speaker 9: stronger in the way to negotiate with the NFL. And

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Speaker 9: I think that's what Florio's referencing. But you're right, international games,

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00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 9: they're not, by the way, they're not going anywhere because

863
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 9: they've grown the game outside of the United States. So

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Speaker 9: that's the number one priority. I think that's what you

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Speaker 9: need right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, they had to, right, and let's switch gears on

867
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Speaker 1: that and let's lean into that a little bit, Pete.

868
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Speaker 1: In terms of expansion, we're looking at the push, this

869
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Speaker 1: tremendously large and aggressive push for flag football. Does flag

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Speaker 1: football and all of these major names that they have

871
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: connected because obviously the NFL is connected to flag football,

872
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: has been championing it. It's coming in the Olympics. When

873
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: it comes here, you have Peyton Manning, you have Tom Brady,

874
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: just those two names alone. Oh and by the way,

875
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. You have all these major names that they

876
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: have A part of the investors groups. To me, Pete,

877
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: it says, is there is there the thought process that

878
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: maybe the NFL is hitting its ceiling in terms of

879
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: the growth of the game directly through playing football, so

880
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: now you have to start maybe looking to be able to.

881
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: Expand what you're doing through flag.

882
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 9: Well, I don't think the game is it's ceiling yet

883
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 9: in terms of the popularity in the United States, I

884
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 9: don't see that and now everything. I mean, baseball used

885
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 9: to be the most popular sport, but way back in

886
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 9: the day and it's not anymore. So you know, things change.

887
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 9: So I get what you're saying. Here's what I think

888
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 9: the NFL is doing. A lot of people don't want

889
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 9: their kid playing tackle football. You know that. Yep, it's

890
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 9: different than it was twenty years ago. And so what

891
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 9: do you play? You play flag football. Well, if there's

892
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 9: a way to play flag football and turn that into

893
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 9: some kind of career down in the line, then I

894
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 9: think that's what you're looking at in terms of the NFL.

895
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 9: And I think the NFL is smart. I mean, you

896
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 9: watch that flag football game when they played the pros.

897
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 9: It was interesting. It's different. It's not football, there's no hitting,

898
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 9: but it was interesting and I think people will be

899
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 9: drawn to that a little bit. So I get it.

900
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 9: I understand that. I know, by the way, why did

901
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 9: those players play in that game? If you were the Bengals,

902
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 9: would you want Joe Burrow playing in that game or

903
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 9: Jade and Daniels, both of them injury prone in their careers,

904
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 9: you love that happening? That would it made no sense

905
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 9: to be But I do see where the NFL is

906
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 9: smart to try and grow the flag football game, because look,

907
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 9: you go ask kids nowadays, parents and stuff, they say,

908
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 9: I don't want my kid playing tackle football, and so

909
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 9: they played flag football, and it grows the.

910
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: Game, and it includes girls right like, it opens it

911
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: up to a larger demo of people to participate and

912
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: get acclimated to football. But I don't know that they're

913
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: using it to actually have the end result of funneling

914
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: them towards the NFL. It probably is in there, and

915
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: it probably is included. But I think if you create

916
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: an alternative that is positive for your fan base, I said,

917
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: and you answered me, this plex acts. How big can

918
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: it get? Can can I believe flag football can grow

919
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: big enough that I don't know how long, decade, decades,

920
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: maybe it will eventually be as like maybe the fourth

921
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: biggest sport at the college level, maybe after basketball, you know,

922
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: women's basketball. Maybe it even gets bigger than women's basketball

923
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: at the college level. But I'd say football is king.

924
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Then you have you know, men's basketball. Then you you know,

925
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: you can kind of re you know, put in and

926
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: fill in the blank on three. But I would say

927
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: that flag football has the potential with all of this

928
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: push and all of this backing and campaigning, and now

929
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: it's becoming Olympic sport, it has the potential to become

930
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: that big at the college level.

931
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 3: What would you say to that.

932
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 9: Well, I think you hit the nail on the head

933
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 9: when you talk about the women playing it. I mean,

934
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 9: like ran Carthought, who you know from of GM I

935
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 9: worked with his daughter plays in the league and he

936
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 9: coaches him, and he says, it's become big. Yeah, it's

937
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 9: become a big sport. So it has the potential, but

938
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 9: we got to caution it a bit. Remember remember the

939
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 9: everybody saying how big arena football was going to be

940
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 9: at one point, Remember that there was a push.

941
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 3: There was a tremendous push.

942
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 9: For a round and what happened to it?

943
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 3: No exactly, Yeah, but you gotta be everybody.

944
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: They ran into they ran into a wall.

945
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, rhetorically, no, no, pun it doesn't right, Yeah, I mean, yeah,

946
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 9: there's no doubt, and so you got to be careful.

947
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 9: Everybody has the next great things and it looks good

948
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 9: in the beginning and the kind of you know, fans

949
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 9: look at it at the beginning and they go, Okay,

950
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 9: it's interesting, but I'm not gonna watch it every week.

951
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 9: And I think that's where you got to be careful

952
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 9: with that.

953
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, but when you're talking about twenty million flag football

954
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 8: players worldwide.

955
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

956
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 8: That's a lot of people at It gives the kids

957
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 8: an avenue to play football without the physicality. I believe

958
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 8: that just going to continue to grow just based off

959
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 8: of that, you know alone, Well, let.

960
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 9: Me ask you guys this this guys who played in

961
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 9: the league and guys who were like, you know, you

962
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 9: had contact. Clearly, do you enjoy watching that flag football?

963
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 8: I watched my daughter play. I mean, just like I said,

964
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 8: I attend the games. My daughter plays quarterback for the

965
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 8: high school football teams in the game's a pack. But

966
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 8: I don't think I'm just gonna sit down on my

967
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 8: couch and click on the TV and watch a whole

968
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 8: flag football game.

969
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't believe it's something that I would do.

970
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: But there might have been a time where people felt

971
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: like that when baseball was so big and football was

972
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: just becoming like a little bit more mainstream, right.

973
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: Like, people didn't even watch baseball.

974
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, the past time was sitting around your

975
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,919
Speaker 1: radio and listening to the calls. That's why radio commentators

976
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: became so big. Was that idea of telling the story,

977
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: painting the picture, creating the environment, and then.

978
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: You get out.

979
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 4: You go.

980
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: It was cheap, you went. Most of these teams were

981
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: playing at parks. You were laying on hills. You had

982
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: some bleachers here and there, but you were watching from

983
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: wherever you were watching. You packed the lunch, you took

984
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: your kids, You went and watched. Then you came home, Mom,

985
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: got the house clean, everything was cool. You came back,

986
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: go play outside for a little bit, wash up, come

987
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: get supper.

988
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: That's how it worked.

989
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: Now football is such a corporate driven sport you can't

990
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: afford it to be.

991
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: Your past time. So what do you do?

992
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: Try to figure out how you can create another market

993
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: that is a pastime. What do you do when you

994
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: go see flag football? You pack a lunch, you take

995
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: the family, you take lawn chairs. I remember this. I

996
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: coached my kids, like you said, your daughter's play. Now

997
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: you go to a high school field, you play. It

998
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: doesn't cost you anything too much to go be a

999
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: part of flag football, and now that is part of

1000
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: high school. At some point, they're gonna start charging you

1001
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: to come in and watch high school football games.

1002
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 3: Watch what I tell you. Watch what I tell you is.

1003
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Not yet, but they're gonna start charging it mission to

1004
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: be able to come in and watch these games. It's

1005
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: going to continue to grow. And I think it's because again,

1006
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: you're creating an alternative that a takes down the level

1007
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: of liability. For one, that's the biggest, the biggest thing

1008
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: here is the attention to the health and safety of

1009
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: the game. That's the biggest part of this, right.

1010
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 4: Just the biggest part of no doubt.

1011
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: But then the second part of it is the inclusion.

1012
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: What has the NFL been talking about justice and equality

1013
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: and inclusion and all this stuff, which, by the way,

1014
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: we didn't get to the room rule conversation.

1015
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get to that during of course of

1016
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 3: this week.

1017
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: But inclusion, that is something that has been tremendously big

1018
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: for the NFL. And what they're pushing for So I

1019
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: hate that we're up against it and we're out of time.

1020
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 9: On what we'll think.

1021
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 4: Good Pete, Good Pete.

1022
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 9: I mean, if you imagine going to high school, though,

1023
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 9: and you got high school football players and flag football players,

1024
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 9: I mean, aren't you gonna if you're a football player

1025
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 9: like you play, you guys play nice school. If you're

1026
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 9: a football player, ain't look at those guys and go,

1027
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 9: why aren't you playing over here with us?

1028
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: The guys?

1029
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, the guys, the guys.

1030
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm be like, why, like, bro,

1031
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: you're running route, you routing them up like that?

1032
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: Why are you not over here? Absolutely, I'd be saying.

1033
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 4: Absolutely, don't. They don't want to get hit.

1034
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Like you got a better quarterback on flag team, then

1035
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: we we out here getting our asses kicked over here

1036
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: and they got the better quarterback throwing the ball up

1037
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: play and your second straight quarterback.

1038
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 9: Believe you really believe that would happen?

1039
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: Though?

1040
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 8: No, yes I do, Yes, I know the flag football

1041
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 8: team ten and oer and the tackle football team one

1042
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 8: and nine.

1043
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 3: That could happen, Pete.

1044
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 9: But if the quarterback, if the quarterback was that good,

1045
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 9: he'd be playing tackle book he's gonna get that.

1046
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 8: That's what you want to not necessarily because I asked

1047
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 8: Levarda the question, will this flag football in high school

1048
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 8: becomes so big that it becomes a college sport?

1049
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: Yes, and they're giving out scholarships. Yes, to go to

1050
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 4: college to play flag football.

1051
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: The answer is yes, and we gotta go.

1052
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 4: Pete.

1053
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: We love you, bro, we appreciate you jumping on. Yeah,

1054
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: that's Pete Prisco. Everyone from CBS senior NFL columnist, CBS

1055
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,880
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1056
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1057
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1058
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