1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: First Day to follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Gabe is on the phone today for a first Day 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Harper. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call her and see 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: get him a second date. But first, Gabe, how long 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from. 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 3: Harper's been like a week. And I think I know 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: why I was ghosted. Oh really? 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: Oh sure? 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, tell us about the date first, and then 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: tell us why you think you're getting ghosted. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 4: I mean, for well, first of all, it was late 15 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 4: to the date, so right there. Oh yeah, it was 16 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: like thirty minutes late, and I know that's bad. But 17 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 4: so I was helping my neighbor move a couch and 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: the whole morning just slipped away, like I just lost 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: a sense of my sense of time. But I texted her. 20 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: I told her what was going on, and I apologized. 21 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 4: And when I ran to get there, like as soon 22 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: as I realized what the. 23 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Time was, So okay, did she wait for you? Yeah? 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: She waited, which I did not expect. 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if I would have done that half hour. 26 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. But okay, so you're trying to make up for 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: being late, and she waited for you. 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, she waited and she stayed and we had uh 29 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: so the day was we had we had coffee, this 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 4: cute little spot, and then after that she says, you 31 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 4: wanted to hit up this ping. 32 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: Pong bar nearby? 33 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's so into ping pong, Like I didn't 34 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: even know that was a thing. I think I had 35 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: never heard of ping pong bar. Like, she lit up 36 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: when we got there. We played a few games and 37 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: we got some prize, and honestly, I thought we were vibing, 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: like she was laughing. 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: She was. 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: She was so cute, she was trash talking. 41 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: It was really really cute. 42 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: She was cool. She's really cool, And I was trying 43 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: to redeem myself for being late, you know, like trying 44 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 4: to make up for it, right, I thought I did. 45 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, though, because now she's not answer me, 46 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: and I can't stop thinking about her, because it's like 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: it's rare that I meet someone like her, Like she 48 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: has this great energy, she's smart. She didn't make me 49 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: feel like I had to be anything. I'm not, like 50 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 4: I was just who I was, which is so comfortable as. 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Being late the reason you think you're getting ghosted. 52 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did I just blow it beyond repair? Or 53 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 5: maybe she's just busy, Like I don't like, I was 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: helping my friend and I just lost track of time. 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 5: That's kind of careless. But I felt like I explained 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 5: it all well. 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 6: So then what else happened? So you guys played ping pong? Like, 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 6: did you guys kiss? Did you guys decide that you're 59 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: going to have another date? 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 4: No, was sort of just like talk to you soon? 61 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: Like did it end like you thought maybe she was 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: like upset or didn't really have a good time. 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: No, I don't. I didn't think she was upset. Like 64 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: if she did, it wasn't into me. 65 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: Why or did we go to the ping. 66 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 4: Pong bar and like we hung out there for a while. 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 6: I mean, unless you just used her to take her 68 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 6: to a ping pong bar. She really likes ping pong. Hey, 69 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 6: this guy doesn't know how to be on time, but 70 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get some ping pong out of it. 71 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I didn't say that, though I don't know. 72 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: I just do not like even if I don't know, 73 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: it's been maybe she's busy, but that's also why I'm 74 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: calling you, guys, like, I just want to know because 75 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 4: it's it's the hard part about being ghosted is but 76 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: not knowing totally. 77 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 6: But did you reach out to her then, so like 78 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 6: this is an obvious ghosting? Or was the last time 79 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,839 Speaker 6: you talked to her on the date? 80 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: That's the last time I talked to her was on 81 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: the date. Okay, it's been over a week, just over 82 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: and the last time I texted was yesterday. 83 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see if we can figure it out for you. 84 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, play a song, come back, and then 85 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: call her and see if she'll tell us why she's 86 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: ghosting you. 87 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: And maybe get you a second date. Thank you? 88 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get your first day follow up next. 89 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of today's first date follow up, 90 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: And if you're just joining us, Gabe is on the 91 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: phone and we're about to call Harper who's ghosting him, 92 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him 93 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: and maybe get him a second date. But first, hey, 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: why don't you refresh our memory in your situation real quick? 95 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I went out on a day with this awesome person. 96 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: She's super cool, she's super sweet. I thought we vibed, 97 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: but I was late to the date like half an hour, 98 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: and I felt bad about that, and I felt like 99 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: I tried to make up for it, but we hung 100 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: out for a while and now she won't answer my text, so. 101 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. Okay, were you ready? 102 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 103 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 104 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: Hello. 105 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: Hi, man speaking to Harper? Please? 106 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Hi. 107 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: This is Harper. Hey, Harper, how are you? This is 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: a radio show. It's called The Jewbill Show. Hi, Harper. 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victorian and my name is Jubal. 110 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 3: How are you. 111 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm confused. Good. 112 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: Have you ever listened to The Jubel Show before? 113 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 114 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: Oh cool? And I'm like, I don't know what you 115 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: could be calling me for. 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show called the 117 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: First Date follow Up, where if you go out with 118 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: somebody and then you end up ghosting them, that person 119 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: can email us. 120 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: Familiar with that, I've heard it? 121 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, So is there anybody you can think 122 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: of that would email us about you? 123 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: Unfortunately? Yeah? What's their name? Gabe? 124 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 7: Right? 125 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yeah, Gabe emailed us told us a 126 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: little bit about your date. And says that he's very confused. 127 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: He liked you a lot. I thought you guys had 128 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: a great time. Would you mind telling us why you're 129 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: ghosting him? 130 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I ghosted him, like I don't want 131 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: to be rude, but like, honestly, I didn't know what 132 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: else to do, like this, the whole situation just seemed 133 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: really scammy scare me. 134 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean okay. 135 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: So first he showed up thirty minutes late, which like rude, 136 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: but I can deal with it. 137 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: I get it. I run late sometimes too, and like if. 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: The vibes are there, it's fine. 139 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: Whatever. 140 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: And so we were hanging out, and then we decided 141 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: to go play ping pong and then we get there, 142 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, surprise, he lost his wallet trying to 143 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: get to this day. I get. 144 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: I don't mind paying. 145 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 7: I just just be upfront about it, be like I 146 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 7: you know it. 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: Don't like make it like I lost it, like oh 148 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I you know, like I'm was running late. I left 149 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: it behind and it mean too, or like just be 150 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: like can you pay? 151 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: You know, don't make a think about it. 152 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: And so fine, whatever, I paid for everything because you 153 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: have any money on him, which is not the deal breaker. 154 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: The deal breaker wise, I mean it could be, but yeah. 155 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, there's more. On the way out, we're 156 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: like saying goodbye, and then he's like, oh my. 157 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't how many groceries at home? 158 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 7: Can you? Can you be one hundred dollars? 159 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: What dollars for groceries? 160 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: And he was like, I gotta feed myself and my cat. 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that he had a cat. First off, 162 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: didn't mention the cat the entire time we were together, 163 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: but also like, what what can I use from a 164 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: grocery store? 165 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: Like, you know, did you give him the money? Who 166 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: asks for that? 167 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: I didn't give him one hundred dollars, I'm not stupid. 168 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: But I also was like I need to get out 169 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: of the situation, and like he's not gonna let up. 170 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't have one hundred dollars, 171 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: but like I have fifty. 172 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: You gave him fifty. 173 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 7: I had to get away. 174 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: I had to get away. 175 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: Okay, what you guys do? 176 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow? 177 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: On the way home, like I just kept from playing everything, 178 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: I was like, are you serious? 179 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: He's wait, he doesn't have his wallet. 180 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: He asks for money, Like now I'm an ATM for 181 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: a stranger in there. 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been used a lot for money in relationships. Yeah, 183 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: and I've never had anybody just ask for it on 184 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: the first date. It's a long game, you know. 185 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: Then you realize, oh, they're just they're just here. Something 186 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: gets to help my cat. You can't get the groceries. 187 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, wow, okay, well thank you for telling us. 188 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. And I don't know if you forgot or not. 189 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: But Gabe is on the phone and wants to talk 190 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: to you. 191 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh I would love to hear what he has to say. 192 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: A Harper I okay, so that all sounds bad, Like no, Harber, No, 193 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Okay, no, don't harper me. Like, come on, 194 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: I just told Harbor. I told you I'd pay you 195 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: back with interest. I was just I was like in 196 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 4: a pinch, and you were like this angel who shows 197 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: up at the right time. An angel? 198 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 7: Wow? 199 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: What a like what a beautiful, like literally sparkly way 200 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: to say manipulation? 201 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: Come on, No, I just needed help. I even borrowed 202 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: money from my neighbor after that. I swear it was 203 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: not a setup. 204 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing, Like you could have gone home 205 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: and gotten your wallet. You could have gone like you 206 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: could have used apple Hay, like there were other options 207 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: that you could have done other than asking a woman 208 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: that you literally just met, were money, Like come on, wow. 209 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: Harbor, I guess I just didn't realize you're so materialistic, 210 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: care so much about money. 211 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't care about money, but I care about like 212 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: I don't respect and like basic human decency, like I know, 213 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 214 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: Understand why that's so hard. 215 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: Doctor said, I would pay you back. 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: Isn't that decent? 217 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't need you to pay me back. Actually, you 218 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: can keep the money. 219 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure, Harper, would you like 220 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: another day with Gabe? We will pay for it. 221 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 1: You get no, no, no, save your money, Save your money. 222 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: You can keep the fifty dollars. It's a donation to 223 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the chaos that you have going on. 224 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we'll find my Harper. 225 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: To get out of having to deal with that again. 226 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 7: So it's wine, it's money. Well off, all right, Well 227 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 7: find Harper. I was going to pay you back to 228 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 7: Chicky Bucks, but you gave me. But good luck finding 229 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 7: you're mister rich man or whatever you're looking for. 230 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: OA like a bank account person. 231 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 3: Thank you. People that have money in it yeah. Yeah. 232 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: Jubile's First Date follow up