Speaker 1: Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision? Wait,
Speaker 1: are we starting? Okay? Static with what the microphone? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he ain't got static from the south. What's going on?
Speaker 1: We don't say that. I didn't static day he was
Speaker 1: the Rappers. It was on that song. Y'all remember static? Yet?
Speaker 1: I think Satic was on Lollipop? Can we just go
Speaker 1: back to what the your problem is? What's your problem with?
Speaker 1: You got to be for us? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So my problem is y'all said, I look like I
Speaker 2: don't bathe Wait, no, that.
Speaker 1: And you agree with it?
Speaker 2: What somebody give thee yes?
Speaker 1: If you was a little taller, you would be my man,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I would never say you smell?
Speaker 2: You literally started it off saying like he's the one
Speaker 2: hotel who doesn't smell bad. And I appreciate it. It was
Speaker 2: all good from that point. And then you was like,
Speaker 2: but he talks like somebody who don't babe, And I
Speaker 2: was like, what, oh.
Speaker 1: You do all the positive? Should I be preaching?
Speaker 3: I definitely said that because I can feel like I
Speaker 3: would say.
Speaker 1: That now, bro, I'd be preaching positive. Show Booth doesn't
Speaker 1: do that at all. No, he doesn't smell, but you
Speaker 1: do look like like I don't bathe.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me just say it like this, that's crazy handsome.
Speaker 3: You're handsome. But the way that you talk and the
Speaker 3: way that you be pouring into the fact that we
Speaker 3: must stay healthy. It gives not just food but illuminum,
Speaker 3: and aluminum is what we need to stay fro And
Speaker 3: I feel like, if Doctor Browner's runs out in your house,
Speaker 3: you're just gonna use nothing but water.
Speaker 1: I feel like you would. You know what I'm.
Speaker 4: Taking that might be too processed for one one. Nobody
Speaker 4: doing a three on one and thinking it's.
Speaker 1: Okay if I can clean my floors with it. Not
Speaker 1: for real, you know it shouldn't go on your body.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody should be bathing with something that
Speaker 4: could be a shampoo conditional handbody wash.
Speaker 3: I do like Doctor Berner's, but it got in my
Speaker 3: pussy one time, and that was not only the.
Speaker 4: Membermint when you got to keep that shit away, Yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe it's gonna make.
Speaker 3: It just literally came down from anyway. So what's the problem.
Speaker 3: You feel like you look like you smell grape.
Speaker 2: I feel like I look like, yeah, what you mean?
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I look like I look like what I love.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like this. You're a bunch of men.
Speaker 1: I would never say anything. You will agree with her
Speaker 1: on the back end, or I was like, what on
Speaker 1: the back end? Did I agree with you?
Speaker 2: It was like he does, he does, he does, and
Speaker 2: you were spaced out and everything.
Speaker 1: He was looking down. I'll who the said?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: This him? My friend? Why would you see here?
Speaker 4: Calls beef the turmoil amongst the see this is what
Speaker 4: the Joe Buddens fear does.
Speaker 1: Now and we don't have it's not gonna be ready,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: And they're gonna say tonight Eden. They hired him cause
Speaker 3: more beef between.
Speaker 4: That's fine, Just so you know, that's a that's a
Speaker 4: bleak because we don't give that motherfucking platform. No no
Speaker 4: press over here. So now we call the edits d
Speaker 4: no the other words. But we don't have to say
Speaker 4: that again.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh it's a platform.
Speaker 4: We're just not gonna give them any fun hell one,
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're not run here.
Speaker 1: All of them are bad, but that one particularly, oh.
Speaker 3: Any all of them think I'm ugly with big teeth,
Speaker 3: and I just want you guys to know I'm getting
Speaker 3: bracest anyway, Well.
Speaker 1: All of them think I'm ugly period.
Speaker 4: Y'all, welcome to another episode of horrible fucking Decisions.
Speaker 1: I'm your girl, Mandy b a k A.
Speaker 4: Peg Bundy aka Peg Marcle aka Peg Motherfucker Stallion aka
Speaker 4: dead Batch. Hey, y'all, I'm weazy and aka getting braces.
Speaker 1: If you too, I'm.
Speaker 3: Really excited for them. By the way, let me tell
Speaker 3: you what's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: Actually, my man brought it up.
Speaker 3: He was like, bro, it's kind of funny that Mandy
Speaker 3: got veneers, which is like perfect teeth, and you're about
Speaker 3: to get braces.
Speaker 1: All are really Oh, I ain't gonna hold a different tooth.
Speaker 1: I told you.
Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have the same struggle as me
Speaker 4: with embraces, though I ain't gonna hold you. What maybe
Speaker 4: the way these teeth collect pubic hairs. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna hold you. It's the worst. If I'm
Speaker 4: down in a bootle hole, if I'm eating koochie. If
Speaker 4: if I'm down and I don't expect everyone to manscape baby,
Speaker 4: I'll be having to get through giving oral sex just
Speaker 4: knowing I'm gonna have to go in and pull pubes
Speaker 4: out of the these teeth just be collecting fucking pubes.
Speaker 1: Hate it. I'm not gonna. Oh, I mean I have to.
Speaker 4: Like I have my my my floss and like my brushing, Like, bitch,
Speaker 4: I keep a little carry on one in my person now,
Speaker 4: Like if I'm gonna be sucking, kissing anything, bitch, I'm
Speaker 4: brushing my teeth. Baby, these things I'd be like, fuck
Speaker 4: and it kind of bothers me, but I just gotta
Speaker 4: ignore it. But you know, sex sex assycon.
Speaker 1: I be hating it.
Speaker 4: I be hating it, and I like to like I
Speaker 4: always like to go from oral to mouth. If I'm
Speaker 4: sucking you, you gonna taste you. If I'm looking at you,
Speaker 4: you gonna taste you. So I like going from oral
Speaker 4: to to kissing immediately after, right, but before it Like
Speaker 4: it's a quick it's a quick jump. Bitch, I gotta
Speaker 4: get that fucking cube out right now. It was stressful,
Speaker 4: it's stressful.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to racist.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna make them look cool. But
Speaker 3: I just I had a long journey with trying with
Speaker 3: my teeth. Right, So I tried in viziline and then
Speaker 3: I tried smile direct club and they went bank from
Speaker 3: and then I tried riistic bracelest from the inside, and
Speaker 3: then I couldn't speak English.
Speaker 1: So I feel like.
Speaker 3: Race is gonna look cool. Also, they have gold braces.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, it's gonna be like a grill bitch.
Speaker 3: They made a bracket to show me what it looks like.
Speaker 3: My teeth looked yellow with gold and don't do that.
Speaker 1: So that's so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically I'm just getting plain silver, no colors, no
Speaker 3: extra shit, just cool shit.
Speaker 4: And I can't wait till you come on here and
Speaker 4: start giving us dick sucking tips with braces, because it's
Speaker 4: gonna affect that for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it is because I had the
Speaker 3: linguistic ones, which is inside the dick goes inside.
Speaker 1: But what would it matter if they're outside?
Speaker 4: I mean to me eight pubes again. But also I
Speaker 4: wonder if it's gonna like cut up your mouth at all,
Speaker 4: because you know what I mean, like like your mouth.
Speaker 1: I don't need you to not be on my team
Speaker 1: because you fucking don't while you had them. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what do you know? But they're gonna chop up the
Speaker 1: inside of your mouth? Well, they told me, I gotta
Speaker 1: put the wax on it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I had a whole crying fit
Speaker 3: when I had the inside braceist.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't suck you dick anymore. He
Speaker 1: was like, bro, you got to calm down to day three.
Speaker 1: He's like, bitch, you could.
Speaker 3: But he encouraged me to get the braces because he
Speaker 3: was like, I really think you will be fine with bracest.
Speaker 3: He's like, I think adult bracest. You have to have
Speaker 3: a look for it. He's like, I think you're fine.
Speaker 3: The only thing that makes me feel a little dumb
Speaker 3: with bracist. I feel like this aesthetic is fine, right,
Speaker 3: but wearing like a gown going to a wedding, getting
Speaker 3: dressed up, I feel like I'm gonna look dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's possible, but at least off
Speaker 1: my teeth whatever.
Speaker 3: So that's what happened to me, and you guys probably
Speaker 3: heard a week or two ago, YEP about my fake foursome.
Speaker 1: It was very fake, but.
Speaker 3: It was it was inspiring and literally Andy said on
Speaker 3: that episode, it's so dope in things, but deficial.
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to get back on there, And boy
Speaker 1: did she get back on there.
Speaker 4: So y'all, this whole episode is gonna be about thruffles
Speaker 4: because I just got in and out of one since
Speaker 4: that episode, grand opening, grand closing, baby goddamn happened quickly.
Speaker 3: I think you manifested it because you were like, nothing
Speaker 3: lasts more than two weeks.
Speaker 1: I probably did well. It lasted a full month in totality.
Speaker 4: But we're gonna get into throufles what it means, and
Speaker 4: I guess the part of the opening sentiment of this podcast,
Speaker 4: I wanted to explain the difference between a unicorn and
Speaker 4: a throttle, specifically because when I was bringing up on
Speaker 4: Instagram and Twitter that I met a couple and that
Speaker 4: I was dating a couple, everyone immediately started calling me
Speaker 4: a unicorn or it's like, oh, are you a unicorn again?
Speaker 4: So I was a unicorn during Mexico, and you guys
Speaker 4: please go listen to that episode. I don't remember the
Speaker 4: episode title, but we'll put it in the description of
Speaker 4: this episode, so y'all can go listen to me on
Speaker 4: a solo vacation ending up with a couple that was
Speaker 4: that was a unicorn situation because I went in and
Speaker 4: had fun with this couple and left. I'm not interested,
Speaker 4: and I think I've been saying that a lot. I'm
Speaker 4: not interested in casually having sex with anyone right now,
Speaker 4: and I'm not interested in not liking who I'm having
Speaker 4: sex with. What about your current casual sex partners, I
Speaker 4: don't really I don't have any locally, and the one
Speaker 4: that I have like casual, my main one. He don't
Speaker 4: live here, but we talk every single day, so we
Speaker 4: keep up with each other's work life, families, like all
Speaker 4: the things. So to me, that's not casual because there's
Speaker 4: an ongoing still relationship about what we're doing when we're
Speaker 4: not having sex.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean, I'm not interested in also
Speaker 4: fucking someone that I don't really like. So when it
Speaker 4: came to this couple, I know that I like women,
Speaker 4: I like men. I know the capacity that I have
Speaker 4: to give right now. So in terms of threuttling, threatling
Speaker 4: is like we're all dating each other, there's a title involved.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a part of investing in building with the
Speaker 4: man as much as I'm investing in building with the woman,
Speaker 4: in friendship, in a sexual experience, and all those things.
Speaker 3: By the way, I want y'all to know the reason
Speaker 3: this episode. Well, I don't know if you plan on
Speaker 3: doing this, but when Mandy told me when they broke
Speaker 3: up and why, I was like, I think we one
Speaker 3: hundred percent need to talk about this because I don't
Speaker 3: want to shade women, but it generally seems like threattles
Speaker 3: ending or threesomes going wrong is at the hand of
Speaker 3: the women.
Speaker 1: Oh not as all women accountable, bitch. I mean for me,
Speaker 1: this is a little sidebar.
Speaker 3: But okay, I was feeling sensitive to this already because okay,
Speaker 3: there's a clip of doctor Umar that just came out
Speaker 3: and or I don't know, it could be old. But
Speaker 3: basically he says, if my daughter came to me and
Speaker 3: said her man cheated, I'd be like, babe, sit down,
Speaker 3: let me talk to you. And he asked is he
Speaker 3: a good provider? Which I hate the money comes first?
Speaker 1: I mean, we got bills, don't pay himself.
Speaker 3: Is he does he take care of any of it
Speaker 3: at home? Is he pretty much all around the man
Speaker 3: you need? And basically the boundary was like, did he.
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 1: Was it a oops? Was it a one time thing?
Speaker 3: You should come to him and say I don't like
Speaker 3: you doing this and let him know how you feel.
Speaker 3: About the infidelity. But you need to expect that a
Speaker 3: man will cheat occasionally. So I sent it to a
Speaker 3: group chat. He swear to God, you want to hear it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have to insert that clip. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: said you should expect a man to cheat. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do a light paulic.
Speaker 4: I want to hear the full context of him saying this,
Speaker 4: so we can we can addit this part. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: here's the clip from doctor um that kind of started
Speaker 4: an argument in my group chat.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me hear it.
Speaker 5: If my daughter comes to me to say, Daddy, my
Speaker 5: husband cheated on me, I'm gonna say, Princess, give me
Speaker 5: a hug, sit down. I need to talk to you.
Speaker 5: Is he a good provider yes? Does he take good
Speaker 5: care of you yes? Does he have a disrespect he
Speaker 5: raise his hand to you know outside of this cheating?
Speaker 5: Is he pretty much what you need in the man?
Speaker 5: Yes he is. What do we know about this woman?
Speaker 5: Was this thing purely sexual? Was it a hit and miss?
Speaker 5: Is it a work romance? Or is he really killing
Speaker 5: this woman? If she tells me this was a hit
Speaker 5: and miss, I'm gonna tell her go have a conversation
Speaker 5: with him about his infidelity. Let him know you do
Speaker 5: not like it. But there's two things I want you
Speaker 5: to think about. I will never tell you not to
Speaker 5: leave a man because he cheated. If you want to
Speaker 5: leave him because he cheated, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 5: But I want to ask you a question. How many
Speaker 5: men you expect to find out there who are never
Speaker 5: going to go outside that marriage, at least occasionally to
Speaker 5: experience another woman. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying
Speaker 5: it's not realistic to leave a good man for a noops.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll god, Okay, Well, I have a few things
Speaker 1: to say about that.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, what what's up? Two things
Speaker 3: that I felt? Okay, I'm gonna tell you what happened
Speaker 3: in this group chat. Then you told me okay. I
Speaker 3: wrote this sentence in the group chat with two close
Speaker 3: homegirls that I really trust, and I said, damn, I
Speaker 3: fucking hate that women are gonna see this and really
Speaker 3: believe this. Even though I'm that bitch that doesn't think
Speaker 3: sex is that big of a deal for oops, and
Speaker 3: I'm in an open relationship, I actually think this.
Speaker 1: Is wrong when people practice monogamy.
Speaker 3: My homegirl hits back and like, that's basically a roundabout way.
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy coming from you because you accept cheating.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, that's not what ethical non monogamous people accept. Like,
Speaker 4: that's that's the frustrating part.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: That's that's so when you're ethically non monogamous, the the
Speaker 4: idea yes, sex and exchanging bodily autonomy and fluids with
Speaker 4: other people isn't as alarming. But we both felt cheated
Speaker 4: on in our previous relationships because these niggas lied and
Speaker 4: betrayed the boundaries that we set for.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, except I asked for it. She's like,
Speaker 3: I have a bunch of homegirls that ask for it
Speaker 3: and they changed their mind. Eventually, you change their mind.
Speaker 3: I'm like, look in monogamy. So I ended up, you know.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I felt like she.
Speaker 3: Was judging me, even though she's like, I'm not jugging
Speaker 3: judging you. But if I accepted that, I feel like
Speaker 3: I would have no self worths And I'm like, whoa, oh,
Speaker 3: and that shit really oh fucking hurt. Because when I
Speaker 3: was dating hospital did, I wanted him to fuck other people.
Speaker 3: He would be at working at a bar and I'd
Speaker 3: be like, ooh, I want you to go pick up somebody.
Speaker 3: I want you to like fuck somebody and let me watch.
Speaker 3: And d he hated me talking like that, He hated
Speaker 3: talking about threesomes. He did not like shit like that.
Speaker 3: And I literally wrote her and I was like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. If you think I'm doing this because I
Speaker 3: want to keep a niggad, but like I really have kinks,
Speaker 3: then maybe you don't understand, like I have a lot
Speaker 3: of things I like to indulge in sexually. Then the
Speaker 3: conversation comes up of she thinks sex is sacred, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, the sex I have with my man
Speaker 3: is sacred, but I do believe we could have sex
Speaker 3: with other people and it'd be fun and not as deep.
Speaker 1: I do believe this.
Speaker 3: If I didn't believe this, I couldn't do this show
Speaker 3: for everybody every week.
Speaker 1: As a true believer of this.
Speaker 3: Now being that person, I can still watch that doctor
Speaker 3: Umar Klip and empathize with people that are monogamous. I
Speaker 3: had a homegirl Mandy recently whose husband kissed another woman.
Speaker 1: She's fucking losing her mind. Now.
Speaker 3: On the other end, I'm sitting there like damn bitch
Speaker 3: is just a kiss. You've been with this nigga almost
Speaker 3: in years, but for her it's a big deal.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck.
Speaker 3: Am I to tell you your man didn't deceive you,
Speaker 3: that what he did wasn't wrong. And that's why I
Speaker 3: really don't like this whole We have to accept cheating shit.
Speaker 3: Some of us are much more open minded to you know,
Speaker 3: different sex with other people and relationships, and some are not.
Speaker 3: So to watch that clip of doctor Umar saying he
Speaker 3: would say that to his daughter.
Speaker 1: Here's my two takeaways from it.
Speaker 4: I want to lean into a bit of what he said,
Speaker 4: but then also lean into the fact that like your
Speaker 4: friends in the group chat, they uphold kind of Doctor
Speaker 4: Umar's point in saying it. And look, I'm gonna bring
Speaker 4: up well the tweet that I brought up the other day.
Speaker 4: But my one thing is he goes into asking about
Speaker 4: the finances, and he goes into asking, well is he
Speaker 4: a good man to you? Then he includes do he
Speaker 4: put his disrespect and hands as in you? It's disrespectful
Speaker 4: if you betray my trust. It's disrespectful if you're not
Speaker 4: considering my emotions and the things that I set forth
Speaker 4: in this relationship. So the fact that he combined disrespect
Speaker 4: with physical abuse. I didn't like that because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of ways for a man to disrespect you that
Speaker 4: don't include him laying hands on you.
Speaker 1: Right eat eating.
Speaker 4: My other part in this specific clip as well, is
Speaker 4: a man literally telling his daughter, well, do you think
Speaker 4: you're gonna find a man that doesn't do these awful
Speaker 4: things to you? You may as well stick it through
Speaker 4: with this specific man. And I want to bring up
Speaker 4: a clip because I do think a lot of women
Speaker 4: feel this way. So there was a Twitter that went
Speaker 4: viral a couple of weeks ago, and I screached out
Speaker 4: at it because I was like, he's god damned desperate
Speaker 4: as bitches. So she tweets not me finding out that
Speaker 4: my fiance is still seeing his ex and they've been
Speaker 4: meeting frequently. Our wedding is in the next six months.
Speaker 4: I'm conflicted about the decision I should make. Also, if
Speaker 4: I called the wedding off, what if I don't find
Speaker 4: a guy that will see me as a potential wife.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of what doctor Umar was leading into.
Speaker 4: The desperation that women just want a man period.
Speaker 3: Is hard, it is, but and that's the reason we
Speaker 3: stay with niggas that ain't shit, right, I mean auilty
Speaker 3: of it too.
Speaker 1: I mean we yeah, same, But I don't think that
Speaker 1: no woman should.
Speaker 4: Feel like her whole goal in life or the end
Speaker 4: all be with thal is whether or not a man
Speaker 4: claims you as a wife.
Speaker 1: Like this reeks of.
Speaker 4: Desperation, and that's what I think a lot of people
Speaker 4: have lost, like self worth and value in the ways
Speaker 4: that they accept these men and how they show up
Speaker 4: in their lives.
Speaker 3: I know that we are in a place where a
Speaker 3: lot of the value that people feel is through love.
Speaker 3: I understand it's been like that for years, but the
Speaker 3: love through partnership and through an unhealthy partnership is not
Speaker 3: one to be celeom. So long story short, you know,
Speaker 3: I started to feel offended by her, but I realized
Speaker 3: I'm not. This is not a friendship that will end,
Speaker 3: This is not an argument that will last forever. But
Speaker 3: I realize is I actually just felt more sympathy for
Speaker 3: the women that told their friends that aren't me.
Speaker 1: See, I don't give a fuck. I can have this.
Speaker 3: Dialogue with my homegirl that's monogamous and we done with
Speaker 3: the conversation. Yeah, but I literally said to my boyfriend
Speaker 3: after because I called him about it. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is the girls that listen to my show. None of
Speaker 3: their homegirls are gonna welcome their thoughts or their kinks
Speaker 3: or their desires with open arms, and they're gonna talk
Speaker 3: shit about them right after. They're gonna be like, Ugh,
Speaker 3: this bitch talking about she want to fuck two niggas.
Speaker 1: Oh way, Like that's a no.
Speaker 4: I have friends right now that are heterosexual monogamous women.
Speaker 4: You should hear our conversations. First off, bitch, you'd and
Speaker 4: cheated on every nigga you're with. I need you to
Speaker 4: step into the fact that you were actually not monogamous.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of my friends lean into all of
Speaker 4: the surface layer, like the traditional values is what they
Speaker 4: claim they want. But I'm like, but bro, you cheated
Speaker 4: on every nigga you Bro, you actually enjoy dating even
Speaker 4: like or you'll date multiple men because you don't want
Speaker 4: to lean into the title because you enjoy seeing multiple
Speaker 4: people at once, and you just women want to be
Speaker 4: non monogamous because they don't.
Speaker 3: Women are so jealous me too. Women get very jealous,
Speaker 3: so they're like, Nah, he can't do this, I can't
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 4: So they're there's a sucking lot off. Let's be very
Speaker 4: clear on the other end, I have. I've had men
Speaker 4: that I talked to, men that I dated, I mean shit,
Speaker 4: even my ex because I wasn't jealous, because I didn't
Speaker 4: care whether he was in another bitch of space or not,
Speaker 4: or eating a bitch pussy right in front of me.
Speaker 4: Because I didn't show those jealous tendencies, they felt like
Speaker 4: I didn't like them as much. So men also lean
Speaker 4: into well, bitch, if you ain't acting crazy over me,
Speaker 4: you must not like me that much.
Speaker 3: Such toxicity is something that makes us feel value, right.
Speaker 4: Y'all make y'all feel value, not me. Don't bring that
Speaker 4: toxic shit over here, Mandy.
Speaker 1: Not to call you out, but I believe that the
Speaker 1: bitch hold on. You aren't even see it.
Speaker 4: If you are watching all you bitch on, h tell me,
Speaker 4: tell me if this is not a thing, No, tell
Speaker 4: me to break up.
Speaker 1: As many times as you did, you were in a
Speaker 1: high low.
Speaker 3: Like up down, updown. I felt this, So when you
Speaker 3: were going through it, I knew I didn't like it,
Speaker 3: But Mandy, you kept going it back because it felt good.
Speaker 1: Well, no, we don't know. You think you don't like it.
Speaker 1: But you're responding.
Speaker 4: We have not had the actual episode around the psychological
Speaker 4: abuse of a narcissist. That was a part of the
Speaker 4: dopamine that I wanted from the highs. I just wanted
Speaker 4: to keep feeling that. But let's be very clear too,
Speaker 4: in that moment, with it being my first relationship, I
Speaker 4: also felt like going back. Like I thought love was hard,
Speaker 4: relationships are hard work. I can't give up on this,
Speaker 4: like that's when the he got the maddest when I
Speaker 4: gave up and didn't want to fight over him anymore.
Speaker 1: Like to me, that's in within. I didn't want that.
Speaker 1: I absolutely I feel like a true rejection of it, though,
Speaker 1: isn't it so to me? I finally walked aways, but
Speaker 1: I did not want that. Let's be very clear.
Speaker 3: I want it, but I was responding to it by
Speaker 3: going back. I mean, but that means we people are
Speaker 3: So maybe then the thing is not Maybe nobody likes
Speaker 3: toxic relations toxic relationships.
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't like it.
Speaker 4: But the balloon shit niggas go on there and literally say, oh, no,
Speaker 4: I need a bitch to argue with me a little
Speaker 4: bit like I'm not arguing with nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm not raising my voice me.
Speaker 3: Like when not even toxic shit though, makes people feel
Speaker 3: like they have something that's worthwhile.
Speaker 4: And get I get that being maybe the majority sentiment
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I don't want to argue with a man
Speaker 4: as much as like we can get on this pod,
Speaker 4: I can get in front of any camera and debate
Speaker 4: people in my personal relationships, A nigga not gonna raise
Speaker 4: his voice in me. I have not been in a
Speaker 4: position where niggas ever laid his hands on me. I
Speaker 4: am not in a position where if it gets to talk,
Speaker 4: you can go like you can leave or all all
Speaker 4: all exit, all stop the conversation. I'm not into doing
Speaker 4: that with any lover of mine.
Speaker 1: I hate arguing too.
Speaker 3: And my last relationship wasn't necessarily very like intense verbal
Speaker 3: like bashing or anything, but it was a lot of
Speaker 3: up down, up down. To me, that's toxic, and for
Speaker 3: some reason the high and low of it going back
Speaker 3: felt good made me feel better.
Speaker 4: But it ain't made me feel good. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 4: you now them narcissists. I can't wait to really dig
Speaker 4: into that. I think I'm still understanding like like you
Speaker 4: guys heard like and it's funny because a lot of
Speaker 4: y'all in the comments. When I talked about finally seeing
Speaker 4: him a year later, y'all were like, ooh, uh, you're
Speaker 4: still unhealed or ooh, you still are dealing with trauma.
Speaker 4: Bro That relationship was traumatic. I would absolutely never get
Speaker 4: myself back into a relationship like that again. The signs
Speaker 4: of literally me not even wanting to confront him because
Speaker 4: I told you of the thirteen times that we broke up,
Speaker 4: he broke up with me eleven of those, but they
Speaker 4: weren't even breakups, they were, oh, bit, you gonna question
Speaker 4: me about what I'm doing. I don't like to be
Speaker 4: questioned about my behavior. So I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 4: ice and I'm gonna give you the silent treatment, and
Speaker 4: now we're broken up, like I'd never had any control
Speaker 4: over that. And it was just like, damn, I can't
Speaker 4: tell you when you hurt me. I can't tell you
Speaker 4: when your behavior is crazy, or I'm catching you in
Speaker 4: a lie and I'm telling you I know that you're lying,
Speaker 4: And instead of holding yourself accountable or even apologizing, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not doing this because you're not gonna tell me
Speaker 4: I'm a bad person. This isn't working, and he would
Speaker 4: break up with me every time. That was not at
Speaker 4: all what I would So towards the end, I stopped
Speaker 4: even bringing up the things that didn't make sense, like
Speaker 4: bitch you and Panama pursuits. You don't have a fucking job,
Speaker 4: you have a fucking funeral to go to every other week.
Speaker 4: Ain't as many people dying in New York, nigga like,
Speaker 4: and so instead of questioning him on that behavior, because
Speaker 4: I just wanted to enjoy the happiness of our relationship,
Speaker 4: I even stopped questioning him because if I questioned him,
Speaker 4: he's gonna leave.
Speaker 1: Like that didn't feel good to me, but I did.
Speaker 1: I just enjoyed the highes of it.
Speaker 4: But there was absolutely a psychological abuse that was happening
Speaker 4: that when we talk about abuse in our relationship, we
Speaker 4: don't talk about the psychological. We talk about emotional, we
Speaker 4: talk about physical, we talk about sexual. That nigga was
Speaker 4: fucking with my goddamn head, and like, that's why it
Speaker 4: took me a year Bro, the fact that I couldn't
Speaker 4: be touched by a nigga after him. I know, y'all
Speaker 4: was making jokes of like my celibacy after Bro I
Speaker 4: cried with three different niggas, like bro. I was with
Speaker 4: Green Eyes in Atlanta shortly after, and I was on
Speaker 4: my phone talking to like my agent. He was pumping
Speaker 4: gas and he comes in the car and I put
Speaker 4: it down and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm texting my agent.
Speaker 1: He was like, but you could be on your phone.
Speaker 4: I didn't even realize like what he had done to me,
Speaker 4: so like, nah, that wasn't anything that I would have
Speaker 4: wanted to say in It was my first relationship, and
Speaker 4: I was weak. I was not strong enough to feel
Speaker 4: better about myself to leave that situation. Because he did
Speaker 4: make me feel good and it felt good to finally
Speaker 4: have a boyfriend, but it was fucking embarrassing and I
Speaker 4: would never put myself in that type of relationships ever.
Speaker 1: I don't blame ever again women when or.
Speaker 3: And it's weird because like, you can't really shame women
Speaker 3: when they want a relationship that bad, cause it does
Speaker 3: feel good that not that someone shows you, right. I
Speaker 3: actually think it's a different thing. We date so much,
Speaker 3: everyone's so bad that when there's one that kind of
Speaker 3: works out, you're like, ooh, finally, I don't even really
Speaker 3: know if you are excited that you feel like you've
Speaker 3: gotten chose. It's just kind of like, damn, I've been
Speaker 3: playing this game so long and it's finally like, all right,
Speaker 3: found someone that wants to be on the same type
Speaker 3: of page. I really don't know if women are there,
Speaker 3: like I got him and you didn't. I think it's
Speaker 3: just like, oh, I feel relieved. I think that's my
Speaker 3: different I see it's not always this thing of like
Speaker 3: a woman is feeling that much.
Speaker 1: Value more than they know they could just stop dating.
Speaker 1: Dating is you know what's crazy?
Speaker 4: So I feel the opposite right now, and that's we're
Speaker 4: gonna get into the topic. So when you talked about
Speaker 4: meeting that couple on the app and having the foursome,
Speaker 4: a part of me with even having that conversation with
Speaker 4: Jozzie and her saying I wasn't really gay, and you
Speaker 4: know the fact that I really I was just head
Speaker 4: a romantic bisexual.
Speaker 1: I was heavily I joined.
Speaker 4: The app to see if I can meet a couple,
Speaker 4: especially because your couple was fine. I said, bitch, there
Speaker 4: ain't fine couples out here looking for other people I am.
Speaker 4: And so luckily Wezi didn't see the couple already I
Speaker 4: was in the group chats and sent her the date
Speaker 4: with me and them to Vinnie and all that. So
Speaker 4: I get on this app and uh, it's you know what,
Speaker 4: we ain't even gonna do vanilla shit.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that different.
Speaker 4: Basically, I was gonna talk about the different ways to
Speaker 4: meet couples, but I ended up getting into my throuttle.
Speaker 4: I met them on field, and to me, I was
Speaker 4: actively looking for people that were not only in kink
Speaker 4: but in lifestyle. I loved that they put if they
Speaker 4: were done the capital K. Yeah, so capit house. So
Speaker 4: I met this couple. I ended up meeting a matching
Speaker 4: with the guy, and of course she was tied to
Speaker 4: the profile as well, so they both were like really
Speaker 4: fucking good looking. And I was like, oh, so me
Speaker 4: and him talked for about a week because when we matched,
Speaker 4: I was in the d R, so I wasn't or
Speaker 4: I was just about to leave the d R, and
Speaker 4: so we kept talking even while I leave left to
Speaker 4: the DR and was taking off all the boxes. I
Speaker 4: was like, just so you know, I'm dumb, like and
Speaker 4: I see that you're in a d d LG DDLG.
Speaker 1: For those of you who do not know? Is daddy
Speaker 1: dom little girl dynamic? And so his woman was very
Speaker 1: sub He's a black guy, she's Asian.
Speaker 4: I was already coming in with the stereotypes like, I
Speaker 4: don't know how I'm fit the motherfucking mat I don't care.
Speaker 1: There's a stereotypes.
Speaker 4: So so basically we get into the app and.
Speaker 1: He immediately puts us in a three way. Uh you
Speaker 1: want to go ahead? Oh? Look, she's like, bitch, bring
Speaker 1: my car free. God. So I liked it.
Speaker 4: I think meeting on the app allowed us to kind
Speaker 4: of talk explicitly about what we wanted, and that's another reason.
Speaker 1: Why I matched him.
Speaker 4: So on his page he said not looking for ons os,
Speaker 4: y'all is one nice stand.
Speaker 1: He said, not looking for ons and looking for a girlfriend. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's you wanted to say unicorn girlfriend. Let's get into that. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh I talked about that.
Speaker 3: No, No, we said we were going to So a unicorn, specifically,
Speaker 3: by definition, is a single woman looking to join a
Speaker 3: couple just for sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The word throuple has become a phenomenon because it's really
Speaker 3: a couple that.
Speaker 1: Brings us all want to grow with both people, that.
Speaker 3: Brings them in to join in in their dynamic and union. Now,
Speaker 3: I would say in the case that you were talking,
Speaker 3: so you asked about my thropple earlier, Yeah, mine was
Speaker 3: definitely like everybody is together, right, we were really sharing
Speaker 3: every day?
Speaker 1: Were they allowed to see each other with what? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So that's my point, right, thanks Dave. So
Speaker 3: basically in my throttle free Palestine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not the choice. We want to make sure.
Speaker 4: I mean, these niggas, we know who they support. Bitch,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: Maybe if I find out Zaara is pro Israel too,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be fucked.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not. I mean, I'm a hypocrite. I'm bisexual
Speaker 4: and fucking eat Chick fil A.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I'm a part
Speaker 1: of the alphabelt.
Speaker 3: The day that they listened the companies, I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna act like I see Starbucks.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but it goes to my delta miles. The
Speaker 1: stocks are plumbing. That's made them take off the pins
Speaker 1: we want all he's got a fucking Okay, So.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you know where about uh long story short,
Speaker 3: So I was in a relationship with a woman. For
Speaker 3: those of you who have been listening to Horrible. Yes,
Speaker 3: this is already a story that's been told, but I
Speaker 3: think it's important to note. Yes, I was in a
Speaker 3: relationship with a woman. We were looking for a male
Speaker 3: you in a korn. Once that male unicorn came into play,
Speaker 3: we realized we really liked this dynamic and wanted a boyfriend.
Speaker 3: From there, we proposed it and became a throutle in
Speaker 3: our throttle. We were all pretty much equal, even though
Speaker 3: her and I had a very strong face of being
Speaker 3: in love and we were there before him. Everyone was
Speaker 3: allowed to see each other separately. Everyone was allowed we
Speaker 3: had separate relationships. And by that I mean her and
Speaker 3: I with her eye and him was all different. Me
Speaker 3: and him had a differ relationship for me and her,
Speaker 3: they had a separate relationship that even I had to
Speaker 3: learn to appreciate. I remember the day I knew it
Speaker 3: was real real. I called him and I was like, nigga,
Speaker 3: let me tell you about it, and he was like, yo,
Speaker 3: hold on, I got to call you back because she
Speaker 3: had a really bad day at work. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that'd be like call me. But in that moment, she
Speaker 3: just wanted maybe to be coddled by him. Maybe he
Speaker 3: has a different energy than me. Fine, and we really.
Speaker 1: Shared each other.
Speaker 3: Decisions were made in our relationship each other, including when
Speaker 3: her and I felt like we weren't working out anymore
Speaker 3: and we had to break up.
Speaker 1: Him and I just kind of fell.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I'm realizing I might be leaning more
Speaker 4: into considering a poly dynamic because this was I mean,
Speaker 4: clearly since my relationship. I'm looking for intimacy and romance.
Speaker 3: So they said that they wanted a girlfriend.
Speaker 4: But so I was like, this is perfect, great, and
Speaker 4: me and him were one hundred percent on the same page.
Speaker 1: He brings her in and it seems like we're all
Speaker 1: on the same page. So then we date.
Speaker 4: If you guys want to listen as well, we went
Speaker 4: on multiple dates and we went to the sex club together.
Speaker 4: If you guys want to hear about the sex club,
Speaker 4: please join our Patreon because I share that experience on
Speaker 4: our town hall for the month of August, and baby
Speaker 4: was wild and I did something that I thought I
Speaker 4: would never do. Here shut up, so just go listen
Speaker 4: on Patreon. The bitch is not there, it's o Patreonamn.
Speaker 1: No, but too much.
Speaker 4: No, I'm trying to get them know, just go on
Speaker 4: pat comback Slasha to hear about the blood. There wasn't
Speaker 4: even blood, bro shut up. So anyways, so we have
Speaker 4: this dynamic. It's great, it's perfect. I'm liking it, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is what I want. Also, out the gate,
Speaker 4: I let them know I'm not cutting off any.
Speaker 1: Of my niggas.
Speaker 4: So one of the things that I really wanted to
Speaker 4: bring up before getting into our kinky sex and these
Speaker 4: boundaries with Thuffols was the conversation around getting tested immediately,
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about Lincoln and he's like, okay, let's
Speaker 4: do Jersey City. And I was like, ooh, if I
Speaker 4: like you, I might have to bring my overnight bag.
Speaker 4: And he was like, hold your horses before we do anything,
Speaker 4: like I need recent results. I was like, oh, say,
Speaker 4: let's so we had planned a fucking meet on Monday.
Speaker 4: I couldn't get into get tested until Thursday, so I
Speaker 4: knew the first time we met we weren't going to
Speaker 4: have sex. It was just gonna be a date because
Speaker 4: I didn't have my recent results. And I wanted to
Speaker 4: this up specifically because the internet I don't even know
Speaker 4: which camera is mine.
Speaker 1: The conversations with my.
Speaker 4: Friends in the internet around getting tested has been disgusting,
Speaker 4: Like I had other partners of.
Speaker 1: Mine at even Alex.
Speaker 4: When we read at dinner bro Alex asked me if
Speaker 4: I had AIDS because I wouldn't got tested and got
Speaker 4: got prepped.
Speaker 1: He was like, do you have AIDS?
Speaker 4: And I'm just like the conversation around requiring your your
Speaker 4: partners to get tested, especially if you're non exclusive, especially
Speaker 4: if you're casually dating or having sex with multiple people,
Speaker 4: especially if you don't notice bitch from a can of paint.
Speaker 4: When I told my friends that they wanted test results
Speaker 4: and I was like, bitch, immediately made my appointment and
Speaker 4: was like, say, let's I don't mind going to get
Speaker 4: tested like I get tested, especially like when I was
Speaker 4: with my ex bitch. We fucked enough bitches and was
Speaker 4: at the sex club enough bitch. I was getting tested
Speaker 4: even with that nigga. So if you don't think I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna get tested for a new that requires that,
Speaker 4: y'all are crazy. But my friends made me feel dirty
Speaker 4: or made me feel like I was like doing something
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be doing because I was going to get
Speaker 4: recent test results or what I should expect them to
Speaker 4: be dirty, because why are they expecting you know, I
Speaker 4: was like mine, both of them sent me their test
Speaker 4: results like they had just gotten tested three weeks before
Speaker 4: meeting me.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, but how they make you feel
Speaker 1: that way?
Speaker 4: They made me feel that way because it's something that
Speaker 4: they don't do with their partners, and they're like, why
Speaker 4: is that something that's being asked of?
Speaker 1: Like is there an outbreak? Is there something that looks wrong?
Speaker 4: Like niggas, I think assume that you should only be
Speaker 4: getting tested if there's a smell or an itch or
Speaker 4: a fucking bump somewhere. And I'm just like the fact
Speaker 4: that this becomes an uncomfortable conversation. I just also saw
Speaker 4: a tweet where someone was like, yo, I asked this
Speaker 4: nigga for his test results and he started a argument
Speaker 4: with me.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I mean, let's be very clear.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons I got with my motherfucking uh,
Speaker 4: my fucking an x is because during COVID, I remember
Speaker 4: twenty four to seven hitting me up and wanted me
Speaker 4: to go see him and me asking him like, you
Speaker 4: ain't got no symptoms of COVID, right, He made it
Speaker 4: seem like I asked if he was a motherfucking monkey
Speaker 4: or something. I really people don't like the conversation around
Speaker 4: like just making sure they're healthy.
Speaker 1: They see it as an insult, like bitch, you think
Speaker 1: I'm dirty.
Speaker 3: My partner and I've been tested twice, I mean since
Speaker 3: being in a committic relationship. This is before when we
Speaker 3: were just dating, no, but since being in a committed relationship.
Speaker 3: And I remember when he got tested and sent it
Speaker 3: to me. He kind of laughed about it, like you
Speaker 3: have you now, and I'm like, yo, I really wasn't
Speaker 3: accusing you anything. I want this to become regular, yes,
Speaker 3: And he was like, yeah, of course I understand.
Speaker 1: Bill.
Speaker 3: I'm like with that little comment, I know you probably
Speaker 3: think I think that you dirt has something. Yes, And
Speaker 3: I just want us to keep on this together.
Speaker 4: That's why I would love to start forming in some way,
Speaker 4: even with this pod, with our social post, with something
Speaker 4: just initiatives like get tested week, Like.
Speaker 1: Oh, side of this is making me think of something.
Speaker 3: So we were talking about how our friends made us feel, yes,
Speaker 3: and what your friends just made you feel away. When
Speaker 3: I called him, I'm like, yo, I feel like almost
Speaker 3: everybody in my life that isn't like in this lifestyle,
Speaker 3: must think this of me, like I'm accepting cheating, right, Niggas.
Speaker 4: Think I'm easy and I really like the.
Speaker 1: Because it makes me feel like you really think I'm ugly?
Speaker 1: Wait what wait?
Speaker 3: What I really believe And I'm not saying I'm Beyonce
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but I really believe I can
Speaker 3: get anything I want. I believe money wise, I believe
Speaker 3: anything health. I believe I'll have whatever the fuck I want,
Speaker 3: including niggas, even if it's yours.
Speaker 1: I believe I can have it. Oh, I'll be honest
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 4: And so hold on Instagram, baby, it's too easy. Like
Speaker 4: my friend said, bit you gotta chill, bitch. I will
Speaker 4: watch a movie on HBO Netflix, look up the cast yep,
Speaker 4: going like a couple of this niggas pictures in this
Speaker 4: movie like he he and my dms.
Speaker 1: Bitch, it's that easy.
Speaker 3: I really and not even and I'm not even an
Speaker 3: ig like meet people people like I just really feel
Speaker 3: like there's nothing as a no bitch like you think
Speaker 3: that's anything that stually got me tight because I was
Speaker 3: like that nigga got me too, Like this is a
Speaker 3: lot of the lit niggas.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Mine is the greatest.
Speaker 3: But if anything went wrong, I would not feel.
Speaker 1: Like the world was over. No me neither. Now.
Speaker 3: With that said, when we're on the phone talking about this,
Speaker 3: I'm like, Bro, I really hate this notion that like
Speaker 3: I'm doing something wrong. He's like, listen, we have so
Speaker 3: much communication. He's like, think about when you find somebody
Speaker 3: attractive and you tell me and we laugh about it,
Speaker 3: or I could act jealous, or you can have a feeling,
Speaker 3: like think about how much we're talking.
Speaker 1: How much are monogamous couples talking a lot about.
Speaker 3: Their inner thoughts, about their feelings about sexual thoughts other people.
Speaker 4: Which monogamous couples can't even like other people's pictures own,
Speaker 4: Like they can't even say what celebrity hall passes.
Speaker 1: They might have like what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Like it goes straight into a day and be like, hey,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be mad that I less super met
Speaker 4: the man, we can't be together And we could end
Speaker 4: this now because a bitch is gonna want to hop
Speaker 4: on Jason Momoa's face.
Speaker 1: Bro, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: There's so there's such a big like disparity in what
Speaker 3: we think respect is and he says to me like,
Speaker 3: I don't want you to feel this way because we
Speaker 3: over talk the check ins that we have, like even
Speaker 3: last week, I'm having like such a depressing week just
Speaker 3: with like family stuff and whatever. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we gotta close it right now, like you need a break.
Speaker 3: I feel so bad for the foursome couple because I've
Speaker 3: been dodging them, But it's not even like I don't
Speaker 3: want to do anything with them again. I just I
Speaker 3: can't right now, you know. But yeah, it's such an
Speaker 3: open diamic And he told me, I have felt like
Speaker 3: monogamy has been based on lies. For me, it is
Speaker 3: like so that's so, that's why I got on this app,
Speaker 3: and a part of me.
Speaker 1: Loved that everyone was open. Baby.
Speaker 4: I'm we date separate but together, but this is the
Speaker 4: love of my life. I'm not leaving her, but I'm
Speaker 4: open to dating other people everybody that I know on
Speaker 4: Hinge and Twitter and all these Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4: I know that there's a saying, right and I think
Speaker 4: I said this to you well too, there's we all
Speaker 4: have one life to live, except for these niggas.
Speaker 1: They be living multiple lives. May be having a.
Speaker 4: Wife, a girlfriend, a baby mama. They hold on, they
Speaker 4: have different, different friend groups.
Speaker 1: They do. These niggas have multiple lives. Yet no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold no no, I love my truth.
Speaker 4: These niggas will have whole new I told you my
Speaker 4: ex was going by his first, middle and last name.
Speaker 4: Nigga had three different lives. He was out here living
Speaker 4: like bro. No, no, no, don't do that. I go by Mandy.
Speaker 4: I ain't even out here living as a Manda unless
Speaker 4: I'm paying a bill or booking a flight.
Speaker 1: Okay, I am me.
Speaker 4: These motherfuckers will be on a dating app talking about, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm only here traveling for work all the time, his
Speaker 4: wife lived forty minutes down the street. He just acting
Speaker 4: like he only in town for work. And these are
Speaker 4: real life stories, okay. Or the niggas you meet will
Speaker 4: spend a whole weekend with you, love you and MB
Speaker 4: and then go goes talking about man, I was just
Speaker 4: working all my mental health. No, it was your wife's
Speaker 4: and it was all the anniversary. Nigga and y'all went
Speaker 4: on a trip together.
Speaker 1: Fuck you mean I did want to get into the
Speaker 1: hoar derve.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about this throttle and the boundaries
Speaker 4: and why it was grand opening, grand clothing. So before
Speaker 4: we get into what went wrong or not what we're wrong,
Speaker 4: just how it ended. I did want to share our
Speaker 4: full experience having sex together because it was different. It
Speaker 4: was different in a way that I hadn't experienced it before,
Speaker 4: and I want to share with you guys.
Speaker 1: So again, they're in a DDLG relationship. I came in.
Speaker 4: It was like, Nigga, I'm a dom that's it. I
Speaker 4: don't mind switching, but I'm a switch when I take dick,
Speaker 4: but everything else, I'm pretty dominant in the bedroom. So
Speaker 4: this was the most different type of fucking threesome I've
Speaker 4: ever had. So first off, she got us matching outfits.
Speaker 4: If that wasn't a start to it. So we both
Speaker 4: take a shower together after we come back from the beach.
Speaker 4: So we had a whole per day on the Jersey Shore.
Speaker 1: It was so cute.
Speaker 4: We played video games together, we were competing against each other,
Speaker 4: winning prizes.
Speaker 1: It was super fucking cute. Let me put this in
Speaker 1: my notes.
Speaker 4: Take to beach. Oh the Jersey Shore was it? So
Speaker 4: we go to the pier, we come back to the house, bitch.
Speaker 4: She We take a shower together, me and her, and
Speaker 4: then she's like, wait, let me find this. I bought
Speaker 4: us outfits, so literally bought us matching outfits.
Speaker 1: Fish net outfits.
Speaker 4: I was like, well this niggas do this, nigga spoiled.
Speaker 4: So we get dressed, we go to the couch, and
Speaker 4: immediately we start making out with each other. So we
Speaker 4: start making out. She starts rubbing on me, and then
Speaker 4: I immediately go to licking her nipples, going down and
Speaker 4: eating her out. So he's watching me and her play
Speaker 4: on the couch. Now she is very sub and only sub.
Speaker 1: That is it.
Speaker 4: They don't even have a switch dynamic. But me and
Speaker 4: him have already talked about how I come in as
Speaker 4: a dom. She knows I'm dumb.
Speaker 1: So we go.
Speaker 4: From I'm eating her pussy and then he goes and
Speaker 4: also where they've been together for a year condoms. They
Speaker 4: still use condoms, which I like because I let them
Speaker 4: know I didn't want any children. So even though I
Speaker 4: got fully tested, I was still going to require a condom.
Speaker 4: So I hear him putting on I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm about to fill the dick. I'd already sucked it
Speaker 4: because we went to the sex club together.
Speaker 1: So I was ready to take it. I was ready
Speaker 1: to take it.
Speaker 4: I already sucked it. I already sucked it. And so
Speaker 4: how was this dick? The dick was good. The dick
Speaker 4: was good. The dick was good. But still in his mind,
Speaker 4: I know, he's focusing on being a dom, so he's
Speaker 4: still very interactive with her, and this is where the
Speaker 4: dynamic change. So he goes, he starts fucking me, then
Speaker 4: he sits down. I bounce on him while he has
Speaker 4: her like eating my pussy the whole time. He has
Speaker 4: her working the whole time, and I'm like, oh, whoa,
Speaker 4: this is like, this is this is kind of hot,
Speaker 4: like and then it gets to the part where he
Speaker 4: fucks her.
Speaker 1: He goes full on into fucking her anally. He liked
Speaker 1: anal sex.
Speaker 4: So I'm watching this cuz y'all know I only do
Speaker 4: handle once a quarter. That bitch don't had a goddamn
Speaker 4: dildo on her ass the whole time, getting her ass
Speaker 4: ready to take his fucking dick anally.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, whoa, Okay, we're really being kinky with
Speaker 1: the condom.
Speaker 4: Even the toys had condoms, don't they nump together. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: they don't live together.
Speaker 1: When when you had ask.
Speaker 4: Me, I had assumed because when we had been in
Speaker 4: a group chat, she was sending me pictures of them together.
Speaker 1: She just goes to his house a lot, So they
Speaker 1: don't live together.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: So anyways, he's just really kind of yeah, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, I like that. I love the
Speaker 4: little niggy and got a force to put on a condom.
Speaker 4: So baby, it was great.
Speaker 1: So he's fucking her Analie, and I'm like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is hot. So I go behind him.
Speaker 4: And start look at his balls while he's fucking her.
Speaker 4: He ass but this is where the dynamic gets crazy, right,
Speaker 4: So finally we get into okay, he.
Speaker 1: Don't fuck both of us.
Speaker 4: Now we get in into oral sex, and this is
Speaker 4: where bitch my dammeter turns on and this just feels
Speaker 4: real crazy damn meter. So he's very verbal to her,
Speaker 4: telling her. So she's now down sucking the fuck out
Speaker 4: of his dick. We're making out. He is a fucking
Speaker 4: phenomenal kisser. So while we're kissing, though, he keeps stopping
Speaker 4: to tell her what the fuck to do, Like, bitch,
Speaker 4: sucked this dick, you know put it all that, bitch,
Speaker 4: Oh oh all that? Like what bitch like she is
Speaker 4: a full cook subish. So he's talking too much for me, So, bitch,
Speaker 4: I started slapping him in the face. Then I take
Speaker 4: his motherfucking mouth while he's like trying to like push
Speaker 4: her head down on his dick, and I take his
Speaker 4: face and I hold it like this, and I start
Speaker 4: smacking him and I open your mouth and I start
Speaker 4: spitting in his mouth and making him do spit bubbles
Speaker 4: with my spit bitch, and he loved it because he
Speaker 4: talked about it. So I literally literally start like so
Speaker 4: I'm literally like smacking him while he's because now he's
Speaker 4: talking too much for me.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, you like how she's sucking your dick?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like how she And then he goes back
Speaker 4: to talking to her, and it's like you're talking too
Speaker 4: much again, So bitch, I stand up and fucking sit
Speaker 4: on his fucking face like while he's fucking trying.
Speaker 1: So now he's trying to talk.
Speaker 4: Now now he's literally still trying to talk like because
Speaker 4: he's and I'm like rubbing my fucking pussy all on
Speaker 4: his face, like you're talking too fucking much for me, Like,
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up. So I'm riding his fucking face
Speaker 4: and I don't know if the shroom kicked in right
Speaker 4: at this moment. Bitch, that nigga made me come so God, bitch,
Speaker 4: my legs locked.
Speaker 1: I ain't even gonna hold you. I'm never gonna get
Speaker 1: my pussy eight standing up again. Bitch. I almost fell
Speaker 1: broke an ankle or something. Bitch.
Speaker 4: I had to focus so hard on not collapsing on
Speaker 4: that fucking nigga.
Speaker 1: You hear me, I was like, good, that'slly. Just the hold.
Speaker 3: You know sometimes when you're in group sex and you're like,
Speaker 3: everything is such sexual, Bitch.
Speaker 1: It was so sexual.
Speaker 4: I got downe and I was like, bitch, I'm breathing heavy,
Speaker 4: and he immediately turns right back into the dom you see.
Speaker 4: I made her come, you like I made her come
Speaker 4: while you sucked my fucking dick and went right back
Speaker 4: into doming her.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh boy, wow, how's it ending?
Speaker 1: So it ends with all of that was way too
Speaker 1: much for this bitch, So let's get into the horse.
Speaker 1: We all just came. We all just came. I end
Speaker 1: up going back. Did he come on both your face?
Speaker 4: Where did he come. Oh no, he came up, so
Speaker 4: he goes. By the time I come, bitch, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I got it down. Okay, look good, good deeds,
Speaker 4: because I'm like, wait, how did he? He came on
Speaker 4: both of our faces. So she was down there second,
Speaker 4: and Dick and I went down there to join her.
Speaker 4: And then he's like, oh, I'm gonna come, and he
Speaker 4: wanted he wanted to come just on her face, and
Speaker 4: I was like, bitch, I took it off her face
Speaker 4: and put it on mine. I was like, I was
Speaker 4: like rubbing my handy.
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 1: My face, Oh no, I want some food.
Speaker 4: And so then I start taking it off her neck
Speaker 4: because bitch, he came all over.
Speaker 1: So then I start taking it off her.
Speaker 4: Neck and putting it like this and making her eat
Speaker 4: it off her neck. And then I just put in
Speaker 4: and we just started kissing with his nut all over
Speaker 4: both of our faces.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, we sat.
Speaker 4: Then we sat, uh, we got some water, and then
Speaker 4: we started watching watching drunk History.
Speaker 1: Literally, she had never watched drunk History before. Did you sleep?
Speaker 1: I slept it?
Speaker 4: God, they had a fucking king bed, because baby, when
Speaker 4: we all slept in my house and my queen, it
Speaker 4: was given.
Speaker 1: You guys at your house.
Speaker 4: They stayed in my house after after the sex cluff
Speaker 4: that y'all could hear on our Patreon.
Speaker 1: Yes, but house. We were in a full fucking relationship for.
Speaker 4: The last two and a half weeks and it recently
Speaker 4: came to an end because, uh, we heavily did everything together,
Speaker 4: which we've done brunch, we've done the peer We've done
Speaker 4: bar hopping, we've done dinner, like, we've been on dates.
Speaker 4: Like this is like, oh, I'm in love. I this
Speaker 4: is what I love. She's sexy, He's sexy as fuck.
Speaker 4: He like we have Me and him had so much
Speaker 4: in common. I'm learning about her and then I'm like, kinky, wise,
Speaker 4: this is just great and it's like intimate, like what
Speaker 4: the professions.
Speaker 1: Without Uh he owns real estate properties and then he's
Speaker 1: also in finance, and then.
Speaker 4: She is a teacher cute and so let's get into
Speaker 4: sub mind you do, mind you? So we all we
Speaker 4: all sleep together like we're I'm like, this is great,
Speaker 4: this is great. I just I came. I'm having a
Speaker 4: good fucking vombit like it was huh. So basically the
Speaker 4: next day, mind you, we have not really She was
Speaker 4: very clear on our first meeting that the last girl
Speaker 4: that they tried to date it ended because she was
Speaker 4: overly facetiming him and was more interested in him than them.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh yeah, bitch, I kind of
Speaker 4: like both of y'all, so don't worry about that. So
Speaker 4: I I to not make her uncomfortable. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm not not gonna speak to him outside of spot
Speaker 4: speaking to you.
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 4: I go against the grain and sidebar with her. Okay,
Speaker 4: So I sidebar with her to check in with her
Speaker 4: because now we've had a few dates, we're texting every
Speaker 4: day as a group. We just had a whole nother
Speaker 4: date we had full blown sex. Let me check in
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: She pretty much told me she a lot of me
Speaker 1: and him make her uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: How did you do you want me to go through this?
Speaker 4: Because I want to know we checked will because I
Speaker 4: wonder if you had to read between no one. I
Speaker 4: do also want to tell you guys too, what I
Speaker 4: also love and what I'm learning from because clearly I
Speaker 4: fucked up in the past. I did ask for both
Speaker 4: of their permissions to share details on the pod. Are
Speaker 4: you guys comfortable with me, like if you guys were
Speaker 4: on Twitter. I know I put emojis over their faces,
Speaker 4: but they were even open, like you can openly share us.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm joining this. I checked in and asked
Speaker 1: for if like what they were.
Speaker 4: They were like, you could share whatever, We don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck, And I really appreciated that. But I am
Speaker 4: checking in and asking my partners now, like what I
Speaker 4: can and cannot share on the pod. My band made
Speaker 4: it clear he's like dick, So so you know, I
Speaker 4: just thanked her for sharing that experience with me. Thanks
Speaker 4: for allowing me. You're amazing. Thank you for your patience.
Speaker 4: She immediately goes into it's not easy being a sub sexually,
Speaker 4: goes into the psychology of it and all those things.
Speaker 4: Mind you, now she's dealing with two doms, so we
Speaker 4: immediately go into where she's at psychologically.
Speaker 1: Care for her. Oh yeah, we Oh, we.
Speaker 4: Were cuddling like I for what I believe after care
Speaker 4: to be. Everyone got water, like he gave both of
Speaker 4: us water specific to her, though.
Speaker 1: I mean that, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: We hadn't talked about what aftercare specifically is needed and wanted.
Speaker 1: But we both changed into regular clothes. We hugged each other, He.
Speaker 4: Got us both water, he was heating up the food
Speaker 4: that we had gotten earlier. They checked in without me,
Speaker 4: so I assumed it was fine, and then me and
Speaker 4: her cuddled watching drunk history. Like me and her were
Speaker 4: more under the covers together.
Speaker 1: But you did up rubbing her head. I mean I
Speaker 1: was pushing her head down too, to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before you read this, yep, as he's an experienced
Speaker 4: dom Yeah, hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I already think that's a fail. What is you bring
Speaker 3: another woman in? I'm sucking your dick while you're eating
Speaker 3: her pussy. You're calling me a bitch, talking to me crazy.
Speaker 3: This is super intense scene and it wasn't all about
Speaker 3: me right after, like I need.
Speaker 1: Well, No, they did.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't change. They were in the kitchen. I went
Speaker 4: into the back like they had their alone time. So
Speaker 4: I don't know what after care looks like to her.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say it was a fail because I wasn't
Speaker 4: around them fully after. But then once they got done
Speaker 4: checking in with each other however they normally do, because
Speaker 4: again I don't know what that normally looks like. Me
Speaker 4: and her absolutely checked in. We changed clothes, and then
Speaker 4: me and her cuddled and I rubbed her. I was
Speaker 4: rubbing her shoulders, I kissed her like and that I did.
Speaker 4: I thought I did my part in that because I.
Speaker 3: Feel like, yeah, you probably did, but if you weren't
Speaker 3: the one that dominated her in a new dynamic, I.
Speaker 1: Did a little bit too. Okay, I dominated both of them.
Speaker 3: I feel like for if I would have just experienced that,
Speaker 3: Like I just got dominated really hard this weekend by
Speaker 3: my man, like real bad, like I was asking for everything.
Speaker 3: By the way, there was almost like a mark from slapping,
Speaker 3: and like after it, he had to hold me really tight,
Speaker 3: like constant rubbing, like massaging, talking about how much he
Speaker 3: loved me, like I ain't gonna live.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that, I would have died.
Speaker 4: I think that's a conversation that if you're in those
Speaker 4: dynamics in a room, like because we've talked about it,
Speaker 4: like they have such I don't want to call it
Speaker 4: violent sex, but it's such. It's aggressive sex that literally
Speaker 4: she's said she's cried sometimes he enjoys seeing her cry.
Speaker 4: There's another guy that I'm talking to now that literally
Speaker 4: enjoys seeing bitch's cry during sex and.
Speaker 1: I don't let him know. Yeah, when we have it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you stop before I start crying. Bitch.
Speaker 4: I don't want to motherfucker cry to your sex unless
Speaker 4: I'm on shrooms and it feels so good and not
Speaker 4: and came and squirted all over the place that my
Speaker 4: os was water bro.
Speaker 1: I cried too, and what's crazy? I want to cry?
Speaker 1: That's the only I didn't feel like I needed a
Speaker 1: safe word.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if anyone's experiences, but the way
Speaker 3: that I could explain the cry that happened to me,
Speaker 3: I started crying in the middle of it, from the
Speaker 3: slapping and the spitting on me and the shit talking.
Speaker 3: And I was like, am I crying because I don't
Speaker 3: like because I was turned on? I was getting widder
Speaker 3: and wedder. Am I crying because this matches the scene?
Speaker 3: Or am I crying because of what's happening? Like I
Speaker 3: did not want it to stop, But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I was crying, and.
Speaker 1: I was like, what does this mean? Sex is weird?
Speaker 1: So okay? So we get into he said it's not
Speaker 1: easy being a sub yes.
Speaker 4: And she ends it with she said she's navigating how
Speaker 4: comfortable she is sharing her partner in casual vanilla spaces
Speaker 4: as well as the bedroom. She said, I just want
Speaker 4: to say I appreciate you, And I said, trust me,
Speaker 4: I can only imagine I enjoy my time with y'all
Speaker 4: outside the sexual space and excited to spore more there
Speaker 4: with you guys in a dynamic that is new but
Speaker 4: also pleasurable. Feel free to be open with me. I
Speaker 4: gave her the floor and did I said, feel free
Speaker 4: to be open with me. I'm not here to compete
Speaker 4: with you or make you feel like any more of
Speaker 4: the giver than you already are, because, oh girl, and
Speaker 4: I wanted like, because as a sub you are taking
Speaker 4: in a lot, but you're a giver innately, you might
Speaker 4: not feel like you can speak out for yourself.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, here go. My best was like, she was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: you need to be a teacher.
Speaker 4: I said, bit, how A'm teaching a couple how to
Speaker 4: treat me when they're not comfortable.
Speaker 1: You need to be a teacher because you're doing a
Speaker 1: better job to get right now.
Speaker 4: So she did say that it's hard for me to
Speaker 4: figure out how our dynamic is supposed to look like
Speaker 4: when in this space. I said it's new for me too,
Speaker 4: but I guess that we can customize it. Then we
Speaker 4: get into I'm not sure what you guys discussed initially,
Speaker 4: but I wasn't looking for an actual polythrup over romantic relationship,
Speaker 4: and I said, damn, wish I didn't.
Speaker 1: I deactivated that bitch. I thought I found you. I
Speaker 1: ain't need to be on the AB. No, MO deactivated it.
Speaker 4: Stop looking because I was like, oh, I'm in a
Speaker 4: dynamic that I want to put focus into. Let me
Speaker 4: not sit here and feel like I have to keep
Speaker 4: going on dates. So I literally asked her. Then I said,
Speaker 4: what is it? What is it you want?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 4: I just know his page said that he wasn't looking
Speaker 4: for O and S and that y'all.
Speaker 1: Were both looking for a girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Clearly after the convos we have all had, it seems blurred,
Speaker 4: is what I told her, because I'm like, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: we're all on the same page. We don't went on dates,
Speaker 4: we're at brunch talking about boundaries, we're doing all these
Speaker 4: things together, and I guess I didn't pick up that
Speaker 4: because they're in this DDLG. I'm thinking he's speaking for them,
Speaker 4: and I not realizing she may just feel like she's
Speaker 4: along for the ride with what he wants.
Speaker 1: So what he wants and what she wants is a
Speaker 1: bit different.
Speaker 4: So she said, he said he was looking for our girlfriend.
Speaker 4: I didn't notice, and then I told him to change
Speaker 4: it to no one night stands. I've always told him,
Speaker 4: I daily, I'd want to be in a committed romantic
Speaker 4: relationship and marriage with a fun and interesting sex life
Speaker 4: with friends that we consider genuine friends that we play with.
Speaker 4: She also went into the fact that, and let me
Speaker 4: go down to this her big here we go, Her
Speaker 4: big problem was the term girlfriend.
Speaker 1: So where he's.
Speaker 4: Now already because she's calling me a girlfriend, She's like,
Speaker 4: I can see how that can look like a girlfriend,
Speaker 4: But to me, a girlfriend, which I am now is
Speaker 4: much deeper than that. It's love, it's building, it's family
Speaker 4: and friends are involved, et cetera. So it doesn't sit
Speaker 4: same for how casual he makes a girlfriend feel.
Speaker 1: So I could also see there's a.
Speaker 4: Dynamic where now you're looking to place a hierarchy on
Speaker 4: this because because now the term entitle of a girlfriend
Speaker 4: means so much to you that you don't want me
Speaker 4: to have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But to be honest, I get it.
Speaker 3: But like, I know, our girlfriend to me does sound playful,
Speaker 3: not to diminish, right, but you're looking right, I'm just saying, it's.
Speaker 1: I'm y'all's girlfriend. I'm not just his. But then that's
Speaker 1: where I get it.
Speaker 4: Then she started going I told him, oh, this is
Speaker 4: about being cooked. He wants to be he wants her
Speaker 4: to be a complete sub and then he she pretty
Speaker 4: much goes into Then it made me uncomfortable when y'all
Speaker 4: were kissing. It made me uncomfortable that he was showing
Speaker 4: affection to you on the pier, like I don't want
Speaker 4: you to talk to him the peer, And because I
Speaker 4: had already known she didn't want me to kiss him
Speaker 4: outside of the bedroom.
Speaker 1: It was like his arm was around my lower back.
Speaker 1: We might have her at the same time.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was he He was the one is such
Speaker 4: a great fucking job bro. I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: love this. She didn't want me to receive any affection.
Speaker 4: She just kind of wanted me there. And I was like,
Speaker 4: everything that you're describing is placing me as a unicorn.
Speaker 4: But also it feels like you feel there's a competition
Speaker 4: or an insecurity around how he may show up for
Speaker 4: me and that's not okay for me.
Speaker 1: Does she acknowledge that? Oh?
Speaker 4: Oh, I said, also, because then she's like, well, we
Speaker 4: can still be friends and hang out, And I said, oh, bitch,
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 1: Friends and I hang out with people to know you bitch,
Speaker 1: you got me fucked up? You want me to read it?
Speaker 1: I bitch. Hold on, bitch, you go. I am very
Speaker 1: clear with what I want right now. I think, so,
Speaker 1: she said.
Speaker 4: She said, I think to be safe in a sexual relationship,
Speaker 4: there needs to be honest into your in paracy, says
Speaker 4: his name king. Community are more inclined to be honest,
Speaker 4: I said, I agree they are. Are you okay with hangouts, friendships,
Speaker 4: and occasional physical experience, no pressure, but whenever the time
Speaker 4: time allows us to hang I said, I'm entirely fine
Speaker 4: with that. I'm not pressuring or forsing anything that's not
Speaker 4: there and don't want to sell myself or convince someone
Speaker 4: of anything else. Hold on, She goes back into I
Speaker 4: wanted to share, where I say, no, I don't need that.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: So she goes back again me explaining the difference between
Speaker 4: younicorner relationships. She said, so the casual hangouts and friendship
Speaker 4: isn't something you would want. Sounds like you're more interested
Speaker 4: in polyamory. And that's what I realized with our conversation too.
Speaker 4: We're literally dissecting labels and titles. This is a poly
Speaker 4: relationship you want. You don't want to be a unicorn,
Speaker 4: but you so we're the girlfriend title. We're literally just
Speaker 4: dissecting our meanings of these words. So I said, I
Speaker 4: need affection. I have a lot of friends and colleagues
Speaker 4: and casually hang out with people every day. In any
Speaker 4: sexual relationship I have, I need the affection and intimacy,
Speaker 4: and it seems like those things I cannot get from
Speaker 4: his name her man. I would want those things from
Speaker 4: the both of you. We can absolutely continue hanging, but
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be sexual with y'all. Then I said,
Speaker 4: I haven't been Polly before, so I can't say that's
Speaker 4: what I want entirely.
Speaker 1: But I don't like getting hung up on titles and labels.
Speaker 1: She then.
Speaker 4: She then wrote I appreciate it so much that Da
Speaker 4: Dada the next morning wrote both of them, thanks guys,
Speaker 4: this was a great experience. I'm gonna let y'all get
Speaker 4: on the same page.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a lot to see. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we're at.
Speaker 4: So basically, this whole dynamic, I think is being introduced
Speaker 4: into a relationship. I think because she's a sub, she's
Speaker 4: down to try it out, but she's not fully comfortable
Speaker 4: in voicing herself to her partner, and I think wants
Speaker 4: to do this to just make to please him, And
Speaker 4: for me, it would have been a waste of my
Speaker 4: time because if I'm coming into a dynamic where you're
Speaker 4: so insecure about me growing my own relationship with the man,
Speaker 4: but yet you and I can kiss in public, you
Speaker 4: and I can sidebar, you and I can do all
Speaker 4: these things, but you're limiting me to doing that with
Speaker 4: the man. Bitch, I may as well just go out
Speaker 4: and be a hoe and charge niggas for this experience.
Speaker 4: I'd rather fucking sleep with a couple in Fiji or
Speaker 4: Aruba or.
Speaker 1: Borrow vacation then fucking New Brunswick. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Like, bitch, I would rather be a third for a
Speaker 4: couple that the bitch let me say this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when Mandy said this to me yesterday.
Speaker 4: I love that you want to try to call cap
Speaker 4: all my messages, Yeah, bitch, I told her I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't believe I got friends. I got friends, so
Speaker 4: I hang out already.
Speaker 3: I was so annoyed with this because of the conversation
Speaker 3: with my homegirl about me accepting cheating, because she's like,
Speaker 3: I've met so many women that do this and they
Speaker 3: end up not being happy years down the road.
Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, I'm really not that bitch,
Speaker 1: and this bitch no offense.
Speaker 4: Don't call my bitch because that's just so y'all know
Speaker 4: I'm talking about to both of them. And I said, uh,
Speaker 4: once you'll figure out and get on the same page.
Speaker 4: I would like to be reconsidered. Yes, like I really
Speaker 4: like objiction.
Speaker 3: Just like, but this bitch basically entered into something that won.
Speaker 3: You can tell they didn't communicate enough. They thought it
Speaker 3: was hot, they thought they were kinky enough. I don't
Speaker 3: know who's to blame.
Speaker 1: I think both of them, they both. I think mainly
Speaker 1: him because.
Speaker 3: You know your bitch and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: and as you're them, let.
Speaker 1: Me get it at Your bitch was because of the
Speaker 1: dom that dynamic.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean as a dom. If you are
Speaker 3: a true experienced domb, you are full. You have so
Speaker 3: much language around what that stub is comfortable with you
Speaker 3: reading cues, body language, you.
Speaker 1: Are having constant conversation.
Speaker 3: You may be a great dom in sex, but you
Speaker 3: took this somewhere else and involved another person. To me,
Speaker 3: this is no different than a nigga doing girlfriendshit with
Speaker 3: me and then telling me they don't want a girlfriend.
Speaker 3: And I really did not like hearing this because when
Speaker 3: I spoke to you about this, the first thing anyone
Speaker 3: that I said, really they want a girlfriend? This is
Speaker 3: at your studio, and you said, yes, they do. They
Speaker 3: said girlfriends said girl said it like.
Speaker 1: Two or three times.
Speaker 3: And so now what I actually feel she didn't really
Speaker 3: do anything wrong by communicating what she couldn't handle. But
Speaker 3: I will be honest by saying I think she should
Speaker 3: have dealt with her jealousy alone first reevaluated it, had
Speaker 3: a conversation with him about it before even saying that
Speaker 3: to you, because I feel like she tried to sidebar
Speaker 3: to get you to be a unicorn without fully telling
Speaker 3: him how that made her feel. I do not think
Speaker 3: she let him know how jealous she was feeling. I
Speaker 3: also think it was super unfair for her to continue
Speaker 3: on in seeing you in different relationships and different scenes
Speaker 3: and differ.
Speaker 4: To be fair, I do believe they sidebarred that night
Speaker 4: after our sidebard. I don't think she told him that
Speaker 4: because well because she she The next morning, when we
Speaker 4: pretty much broke up with each other, she texts me,
Speaker 4: I appreciate you so much and I'm so sorry for
Speaker 4: all the misc miscommunication slash confusion with us. We are
Speaker 4: on the same page when it comes to the ultimate
Speaker 4: goal of what we want in life. That level of
Speaker 4: affection and intimacy that you want is understandable, but I
Speaker 4: don't think it's something we can get.
Speaker 3: They never had a three some before, they've never had
Speaker 3: a three sex.
Speaker 1: I don't think she was And this is why I.
Speaker 3: Literally have told people friend of mine that just got married,
Speaker 3: they were like talking about a threesome right.
Speaker 1: One of her.
Speaker 3: Homegirls is a vibe and like wants to fuck them
Speaker 3: and it's super respectful of boundaries.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, you cannot do this.
Speaker 3: You have to see how you feel with a random
Speaker 3: bitch first. You have to go have a sex worker,
Speaker 3: suck as dick, be around him, see what things are
Speaker 3: are making you feel away.
Speaker 1: Don't just involve someone, especially when.
Speaker 3: You care about and then later you're like, oh, now
Speaker 3: you lost a friend and you fucking made this whole
Speaker 3: thing awkward. I do not think people should be involving
Speaker 3: someone to that level. I can tell already from her
Speaker 3: feeling jealous from a kiss during bro that kisses the
Speaker 3: kids during set.
Speaker 1: And oh, but I called you. We was kissing that
Speaker 1: niggas kiss We was kissing, kissing. What was she doing
Speaker 1: when you were kissing?
Speaker 4: Bitch sucking his dick like she was fucking pleasamb And
Speaker 4: I was up there like and we were. And then
Speaker 4: I'd go from like the long sensual kisses to slapping
Speaker 4: him his motherfucking face and spitting his motherfucking mouth and
Speaker 4: tell him get nigg.
Speaker 3: I think that this is just sad thing about it though, Well,
Speaker 3: is a sub really just felt powerless? And to me,
Speaker 3: that is never where the sub should go, Like when
Speaker 3: I'm asking to be slapped in the face or called
Speaker 3: a bit or be spit on or whatever. These are
Speaker 3: things I'm talking about before, and I just can't see
Speaker 3: a world where they really talked about I just don't
Speaker 3: believe it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I think that we're the
Speaker 4: things that they've done. How they've expressed their sex life
Speaker 4: to me, it seems kinky, it seems.
Speaker 1: Enjoyable, but it doesn't pleasurable.
Speaker 4: But I also think that this is another thing that
Speaker 4: I realized, and I wonder this. She's a complete sub
Speaker 4: and she's saying that that takes a toll on her psychologically.
Speaker 4: And I wonder if the way he kissed me, the
Speaker 4: way he reacted to me made her uncomfortable because those
Speaker 4: that's not a dynamic he sees from her, like.
Speaker 6: Even like, like, even though she's a complete sub, maybe
Speaker 6: there's a maybe she wants to be more of a
Speaker 6: switch but feels like she's too much into the sub
Speaker 6: role where now it can't be changed.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that she wants to be a switch.
Speaker 3: I think what really can transpire from being a sub
Speaker 3: is a little bit of humiliation. Like I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could be subbed the fuck out in front
Speaker 3: of someone else.
Speaker 1: Ah, Like that's what I'm talking about with I told
Speaker 1: her she did a good job. That's not enough. I
Speaker 1: mean it can be condescending. I mean, no it was.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying yeah, But how psychologically I get that
Speaker 4: it can be a lot because to be fair, bitch,
Speaker 4: couldn't be me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be.
Speaker 3: Could be either, And I'm a sub sub. Most of
Speaker 3: my stories in the book we wrote bro have to
Speaker 3: do with subshit.
Speaker 4: Like we went, we went and we got oysters, we
Speaker 4: had to wait while he goes went and got keys made.
Speaker 1: One time and she talked about she talked about.
Speaker 4: You know sometimes the dom sub doesn't turn off, and
Speaker 4: you know the ways that sometimes he talks to her.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, he ain't gonna talk
Speaker 1: talk to you in no way around me.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna let you know that right now,
Speaker 4: because niggas don't talk crazy like around me.
Speaker 1: And she was just like, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: also just that talking like.
Speaker 4: She saw a different part of him or he acted
Speaker 4: differently when we were both around him, that maybe also
Speaker 4: made her uncomfortable, like damn, you're changing around this other bitch.
Speaker 4: But it's because my energy, my personality, how I show
Speaker 4: up demands.
Speaker 3: You know, happy to be saying, just so you know,
Speaker 3: I do not like couples that can't figure their shit out, that.
Speaker 1: Want you involved.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was just a whole different dynamic.
Speaker 4: They've been together for a year. I really hope they
Speaker 4: get it right. I would reconsider joining them again if
Speaker 4: she gets it because I like her and I like
Speaker 4: this really a turnoff though, like I still fucking both. No,
Speaker 4: it's a turnoff for me to hear that, Like, I
Speaker 4: just don't like hearing when people that are exploring different
Speaker 4: types of sex involve other people. And then to me,
Speaker 4: to be clear, none of us have family members have
Speaker 4: been taught classes like he's forty, she's thirty two, I'm
Speaker 4: thirty three, Like they still ask for a girl. But no,
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is none of us really know yet,
Speaker 4: and the same way I said, well, let's customize what
Speaker 4: works for us. This is all very different for a
Speaker 4: lot of people to even be having the ability an
Speaker 4: authority to explore these types of relationships without like it
Speaker 4: being awkward with their families now having to know, like
Speaker 4: it takes a lot for people even our age the
Speaker 4: same way your friends even want to be judging about
Speaker 4: you and how you navigate shit, This takes a lot
Speaker 4: for people to be like, actually, I'm not monogamous and
Speaker 4: I really want this.
Speaker 1: Type of lifestyle and take a lot.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that her expressing her feelings is wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying for people that can get on this app,
Speaker 3: for people that are ethically no monogamous, for people that
Speaker 3: can do all that you don't.
Speaker 1: They don't sound like they're great communicator with each other.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't.
Speaker 4: But it's what you said too, like or someone's like, damn,
Speaker 4: you wasted your time.
Speaker 1: I don't see it.
Speaker 4: That way my time, And then I think you text
Speaker 4: something like damn. I wonder who's more wrong, And I
Speaker 4: think I responded to you, bro. I don't think anyone's wrong.
Speaker 4: I think she's entitled to feel how she feels. I'm
Speaker 4: glad that she expressed it to me. I knew I
Speaker 4: wasn't someone that wanted to tiptoe around what that dynamic
Speaker 4: could look like, because I really wanted a strong dynamic
Speaker 4: with him as well, and I exided I think that
Speaker 4: that's the problem when we date people, monogamous or not.
Speaker 1: A person will tell you exactly what.
Speaker 4: They're looking for or what they don't want, and instead
Speaker 4: of listening to them, you might try to shape shift
Speaker 4: into making it work for you.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't have worked for me.
Speaker 4: And I was just glad that she was able to
Speaker 4: tell me what made her comfortable and uncomfortable because a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't know how to express that in
Speaker 4: dating or in sex.
Speaker 3: Well, I actually think she knew that before, though, So
Speaker 3: that's kind of what's annoying to me. I think someone
Speaker 3: that couldn't handle watching you kissed during sex knew they
Speaker 3: couldn't handle She just went with it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I kind of all, fuck it. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of okay.
Speaker 3: That's why you're taking this down.
Speaker 1: With you would not feel that way.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with actually being I guess this ain't gonna
Speaker 4: sound great. I'm okay with being a guinea pig. I'm
Speaker 4: okay with going into a dynamic where they're still trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out. Me and my ex figuring it
Speaker 4: out to where, oh, bitch, I don't I knew. I
Speaker 4: didn't want to throuble with him. Bit ch'all want a
Speaker 4: unicorns where I didn't even remember bitch his name is.
Speaker 4: The next day, go suck my nigga dick and be gone,
Speaker 4: suck my nigga dick, sleep on the floor.
Speaker 1: I didn't want all that affection of dating.
Speaker 4: I used to tell you that when you and your
Speaker 4: ex would go out and you're like, oh, I want
Speaker 4: to go on a date first. Now, bitch, we're gonna
Speaker 4: go to a sex club. Fuck this bitch and be out.
Speaker 4: Like I knew that that's what I wanted. So like
Speaker 4: to me a couple figuring out what works for them
Speaker 4: when including other people. I don't mind a little bumps
Speaker 4: along the road. I just happened to come across where
Speaker 4: they didn't really uh what I are not the pavement,
Speaker 4: yet they still had a little bit of crass in
Speaker 4: our foundation. I'm fine with that being a thing as
Speaker 4: long as they're able to work through it.
Speaker 3: Well, if you guys want to be my unicorn, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you I won't put you through any of that shit.
Speaker 4: Well, no, it's consensual. I'm not just making a bit
Speaker 4: sleep on the floor. I'm not talking about okay, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no you did. I'm talking about oh God, like you
Speaker 4: want a unicorn though you wouldn't get back into a throuble.
Speaker 1: You want a unicorn. I'll tell you that oop. If
Speaker 1: you guys are interested, my nick is fine, and.
Speaker 3: I think for me unicorn, but not unicorn like you
Speaker 3: have to like dip out, will never see you again
Speaker 3: one night. All the type shit, I'm not ever going
Speaker 3: to be in a throutfle again.
Speaker 4: Okay, but wait to end it all, I actually still
Speaker 4: would love a thruffle.
Speaker 1: So even though this.
Speaker 4: Experience was a little shaky, I'm looking for a throatfle.
Speaker 4: Y'all both gotta be fine. I'm telling you that now,
Speaker 4: and preferably he has money because I'm too dumb. I
Speaker 4: realized I was trying to pick up too much of
Speaker 4: the shots and shit, I was like, let me let
Speaker 4: him do everything. I'm still a sub one. I don't
Speaker 4: want you to let me do Yeah, but why.
Speaker 1: Would you never do a throutle again before we got
Speaker 1: out of here?
Speaker 3: So uh, at this juncture in my life, I don't
Speaker 3: want to do a th throutle again because, Okay, my
Speaker 3: relationship is really solid, okay, and I don't really need
Speaker 3: outside energy fucking up my foundation, especially when.
Speaker 4: So like fucking threesomes. Doesn't that that doesn't count as
Speaker 4: outside energy?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean like being able to take on
Speaker 3: someone else's emotions, emotions, things like that, like to me throuble.
Speaker 3: But again, I was in a thruple where we were
Speaker 3: all really indebted to each other. I'm not looking for that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I told him recently, like, I really don't
Speaker 3: just want to fucking bitch. What I would love is
Speaker 3: we're dating someone we fuck her. I would love to
Speaker 3: get to the point because I'm in LA every other
Speaker 3: week where maybe they can have sex without me and
Speaker 3: I'm feeling comfortable. I'm not at that level of comfortability yet,
Speaker 3: but I would love to get there again because I
Speaker 3: was there in my last thrupple.
Speaker 4: No, she didn't even want me texting that nigga on
Speaker 4: the side. He was like, well, what if you can't
Speaker 4: be free? And she was like, nope, y'all can't hang
Speaker 4: out without me either. She ain't want none of that,
Speaker 4: and so that's why I was like.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm not ready for that, but I want
Speaker 3: to grow there. Okay, Okay, I think I'm the opposite.
Speaker 4: I think the reason why coming into a couple made
Speaker 4: sense to me was because I felt like I could
Speaker 4: give less of myself, which I think is where I'm at. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't give one person my all. I don't want
Speaker 4: someone super highly focused on where I'm at what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: Would like I like the idea that bitch y'all go
Speaker 4: have fun like or that I just didn't have to
Speaker 4: give too much to someone. I'm in a place right
Speaker 4: now where maybe I ain't got a lot to give.
Speaker 4: And when I if we can make plans and do that,
Speaker 4: that feels good. But a part of me is just
Speaker 4: not at a place where I think I could fully
Speaker 4: be with one person right now give that energy to
Speaker 4: just one person.
Speaker 1: So I'm giving the energy and I can't give it
Speaker 1: to too Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's too much.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, you can slide on my DMS.
Speaker 3: Let me know if you're in the New York area,
Speaker 3: slide in mine. We are healthy. Not baxed, but waxed
Speaker 3: and shout out to Wolf not boxed.
Speaker 4: But I knew your mother, like your car was faked
Speaker 4: when we got back on tour. But I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: say nothing.
Speaker 1: I know it was. I told like, oh yeah I
Speaker 1: got my car, bitch, bitch a closure was he here
Speaker 1: I go.
Speaker 4: That was one of our breakups that Nigga broke up
Speaker 4: with me because I went and got baxed without talking
Speaker 4: to him. He said, you're making those decisions. That was
Speaker 4: one of our breakups. He broke up with me because
Speaker 4: I want to got the COVID, the COVID vaccination.
Speaker 1: I was like, kovid.
Speaker 4: I said, nigga, we about to go back on tour
Speaker 4: and I need my money. Shoot me up with whatever. Nigga,
Speaker 4: you just took acid and you mad.
Speaker 1: I got a goddamn COVID vaccine. Bitch. We'll be on
Speaker 1: drugs every fucking week and you mad. Bruh.
Speaker 3: But then just gave me four xanax and I only
Speaker 3: need it one. Right, My nigga was like, let me
Speaker 3: throw out the rest.
Speaker 1: Throw out.
Speaker 3: Oh that's all no that anyway, we don't well, let
Speaker 3: me keep going going sometime manifested my men. Let me
Speaker 3: manifest our girlfriend. So I would love it if you
Speaker 3: like to go out for Dan like Dan. That's what
Speaker 3: we do every weekend. We love dancing every weekend. I
Speaker 3: like to eat, bitch, I like making breakfast. You know,
Speaker 3: you gotta like Nina. But yeah, I'm not necessarily comfortable
Speaker 3: with dating without each other at the moment, but I
Speaker 3: would love to get there. So you know, if you
Speaker 3: just want to fucking fineance nigga and me, damn me.
Speaker 4: And if you want to hear more about my two
Speaker 4: and a half week thruble relationship, uh, join us on
Speaker 4: Patreon cuz we did go to the sex club together
Speaker 4: and had a really really good, interesting time, So I'm
Speaker 4: gonna share those details on the Patreon. You guys can
Speaker 4: also hear about our first date. I recorded with Wheezy
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Speaker 1: Tell us who you agree with, disagree with, who's wrong,
Speaker 1: who's right? I don't fucking know y'all be arguing every
Speaker 1: week about.
Speaker 3: Something yeah, oh no, yeah, what's the girl? Justin what
Speaker 3: do you agree with me? And saying Nigga's right?
Speaker 1: I agree. They weren't ready, which is why I bound out.
Speaker 3: I know they have three I don't you know, because
Speaker 3: if they did, they would have known about the kissing bony. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they didn't really know their boundaries, and I was just
Speaker 3: willing to, like, Okay, well let's create them. I mean,
Speaker 3: me and my ex created our boundaries. We went, you know,
Speaker 3: when me and my nigga was talking about it. I
Speaker 3: was like, oh shit, Mandy and the couple broke up already.
Speaker 3: He's like, what happened? So we started talking about jealousy,
Speaker 3: and I was like, you know what's crazy. I feel
Speaker 3: like beauty wouldn't make me jealous because like I want
Speaker 3: to fuck a bitch that's bad as fuck right right.
Speaker 3: But I was like, Manny thick and that girl lint
Speaker 3: and I was like, nah, she has a nice azed body,
Speaker 3: though I mean you thick. And I was like, I
Speaker 3: feel like if we fucked a thick bitch because my
Speaker 3: nigga like a big bud. I was like, that might
Speaker 3: make me be like really not in a way where
Speaker 3: like I would be like, oh, we can never fuck her,
Speaker 3: are going to be super insecure, but I would try.
Speaker 1: I was really trying to think of the things that
Speaker 1: would make me feel slight jealousy. I think definitely something
Speaker 1: I don't have.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel very confident in who I am
Speaker 3: and what I look like, but ass I may never
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 4: Like even the nigga that I told you like, did
Speaker 4: we talk every day, like the one I don't really
Speaker 4: talk to about on this podcast much. When we had
Speaker 4: a threesome, and it was a threeesome of a bitch
Speaker 4: like that wasn't even white girl skinny, not at all
Speaker 4: anything like me.
Speaker 1: The only thing I asked was who gave better head?
Speaker 4: I just said because I couldn't even fuck so because
Speaker 4: I was on my period, so he fucked her.
Speaker 3: I didn't feel any type of fucking jealousy. I was
Speaker 3: like that bit, yeah, don't feel jalous. During this said
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of what I would I.
Speaker 4: Mean, I realized though too, that ended as well with
Speaker 4: the double face come shot. That must be the way
Speaker 4: that I enjoyed three.
Speaker 3: So I think that's what niggas want. That's the dream
Speaker 3: in a well, I like it. I have to come
Speaker 3: on their face to have a three.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I might actually fill away if you fucking her
Speaker 1: and come? Where is it for me? I want to
Speaker 1: see it? Goddamn anyway, see you next week, See you
Speaker 1: guys next week. This has been another episode of Horrible.
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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let Weezy lead this. Where were we going?
Speaker 1: Didn't you say you wanted to update them on? We
Speaker 1: knew we was recorded last year. Yeah, but no there
Speaker 1: was no outline since so.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean we're catching up the Busterny's gonna have
Speaker 3: a fucking goddamn seizure this helllining delivered.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing a fake outline. I don't put
Speaker 1: ketchup must times.
Speaker 4: Kind of what they do be every time you do
Speaker 4: a outline, we really don't stick to it.
Speaker 3: I just don't find the need to when I know
Speaker 3: that we can have a good conversation, like be super regimented.
Speaker 1: I know maybe what I want to talk about as
Speaker 1: far as the juice goes.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I maybe this may help explain it
Speaker 3: a little better now, especially in my life with making
Speaker 3: different shows, with having another show, even with for fact's sake,
Speaker 3: I kind of have higher expectations of being able to
Speaker 3: go on the fly with you.
Speaker 1: Not saying it's on you. But I don't need it.
Speaker 3: I've said this so many times with different conversations, or
Speaker 3: even if we're talking about a project with somebody else,
Speaker 3: I just don't need it with you. We just did
Speaker 3: someone else's podcast. I didn't really see her instructive question
Speaker 3: too often at all. I just don't find that it's
Speaker 3: that necessary, and sometimes my most favorite conversations with you
Speaker 3: were the ones that were impromptu, Like I have an
Speaker 3: idea of what I want to talk about with you
Speaker 3: today and opinions I want from you, But I also
Speaker 3: feel more relaxed and less pressured on a Patreon episode
Speaker 3: to do so. Patreon has become home for me a
Speaker 3: little bit. When it comes to doing an episode, I like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: hope they know that's changing. Not really, it's still going
Speaker 3: to make me feel more comfortable to be on Patreon
Speaker 3: with what's changing.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, what episodes have been some of your favorites that
Speaker 3: you've seen in conversations with Andy and I over the years.
Speaker 1: I definitely see it both ways.
Speaker 2: I do enjoy impromptu. I think sometimes there's a certain
Speaker 2: magic that comes from just like on the fly, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. But then I also have seen
Speaker 2: plenty of moments where the structure is needed, not necessarily.
Speaker 3: And we have the structured show so that can't die
Speaker 3: like and I think that's probably why I don't feel so.
Speaker 1: I know we got our hord drive, I know we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about news.
Speaker 3: So even if there's nothing there, I already in my
Speaker 3: brain knows something I want to talk about that happened
Speaker 3: in the news right.
Speaker 4: But to me, I would like to see that because
Speaker 4: a part of me likes to come in either a
Speaker 4: little bit more researched or coming in with an opinion
Speaker 4: that I can sit with for a little bit, especially
Speaker 4: because niggas don't like my opinions anyway, I don't feel
Speaker 4: as prepared to explain myself in the quickness that I
Speaker 4: may need to, or to combat your questions to my
Speaker 4: opinion with hearing about it right in the moment. So
Speaker 4: for me, it's a comfortability thing of going in knowing
Speaker 4: where I stand on a topic and being able to
Speaker 4: defend my opinion knowing you may disagree and come back.
Speaker 1: At me with why do I feel this way?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think even that was that was very
Speaker 4: prevalent in me just sharing how I was enthralled at
Speaker 4: seeing Chris Brown on stage and seeing the power that
Speaker 4: he has and us immediately going into discussing supporting a
Speaker 4: domestic abuser Like to me, that frozzled me because well,
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready to stand on that being my opinion,
Speaker 4: but I.
Speaker 1: Didn't have to research while you're supporting him.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, that was just an excuse, not
Speaker 4: an excuse.
Speaker 1: That was an example. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: So that's an example if I know I'm coming in
Speaker 4: talking about JD. Vance and the political landscape and what
Speaker 4: thought like to me, just I yes, but even that,
Speaker 4: I wasn't ready to get into the conversation about domestic
Speaker 4: violence because it wasn't on the outline. So to me,
Speaker 4: on topics that are just strong like that, not where
Speaker 4: we're just giving comedic relief, I because I have such
Speaker 4: insecurity with my ability to explain my point in a
Speaker 4: fast paced thing being questioned being why do you stand
Speaker 4: on this opinion? To me, I want to come in
Speaker 4: and be firm about my opinion, knowing that it may
Speaker 4: not be one that most people have or will agree with.
Speaker 4: So to me, I just I see so many times
Speaker 4: where I'm like, damn, I could have explained that better,
Speaker 4: or Damn I wish I said this, Damn I wish.
Speaker 4: So when it's those well we have outlines or the
Speaker 4: outline structure. To me, it's even why I ask you, hey,
Speaker 4: I haven't gotten the outline yet.
Speaker 3: Well, if you are also cool with doing ketchup and mustards, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 1: So this is what this episode is. Oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that because we've done three. I just didn't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know. You just had a Patreon episode. I
Speaker 1: didn't know this was a ketchup a Mustard.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, if it's a ketchup at Mustard,
Speaker 4: I love that I get to explain why having that
Speaker 4: outline a few hours before or a couple of days
Speaker 4: before we record an up. So it is important to
Speaker 4: me because this has been quite the insecurity that I've
Speaker 4: had in getting into deeper conversations on this show where
Speaker 4: I know we're gonna have different opinions because I do
Speaker 4: have an insecurity with my ability to form fucking sentences.
Speaker 4: I know I do this for a living now, but
Speaker 4: I just want to have a strong stance in my
Speaker 4: opinion where I can explain it effectively.
Speaker 1: That's all, Like you.
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