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Lonla Rosa is here 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: as well, and we got a special guest. 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: In the building. Yes, indeed, the legend Taji p Henson. 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 4: Thank you. I can't tell that I'm a legend because 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: I'm not on this wall. Can you get the wall? 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: We got something special for you done yet. 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 4: I'm telling you I need to be on the wall. 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 5: It's gonna be bigger than the wall, and it's gonna 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 5: be something that's in the studio because you know, we 35 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 5: love you, Angie, love you. 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: Watch you'll see watch, just watch. It's gonna be worth it. 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: You know I've been I've been told them put you 38 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: up here. What he's saying to me as soon as 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: I walk ahead, you sound like Hollywood exect right now. 40 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: Hell, legend, we're looking for somebody else. 41 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 5: Nobody said that to you, no more than what they 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: been looking for somebody else. 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: It's it's just the whole Hollywood of it all. We 44 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: love her, we love her. Well, where is my check? 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 5: One thing I know about you and OG's like Mary 46 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 5: j BLI, y'all over it. 47 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: I can be I just you know. The thing is 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 4: the older you get. I just can't do the b asked, like, 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 4: just be real with me, that's all. I'm a grown 50 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: ass girl, a woman. I can take it. Just be real, 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: don't be blowing smoke. 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: How are you feeling? How are you feeling? 53 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: Was great? I am feeling amazing, to be quite honest, 54 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: because I'm not dealing with nobody's unhealed son or daughter. 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I. 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: Can't. You're not on your healing journey. I can't help you, baby, 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: because I can't take on your trauma while I'm trying 58 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 4: to get over mine. Yeah, and you not trying to 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: heal yours. I can't help you. I'm not qualified yourself. 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: Oh my god, the peace that I found, like, you know, 61 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: even somebody asking me to come out, the first question 62 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: I asked, is is it going to disturb my peace? 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: Because you know, when you're young, you just you gonna 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: have phone mall a little bit. It's like I gotta go, 65 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: and then you find yourself going why did not? Why 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: did I just stay home? You know, no more of 67 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: those moments because I'd rather be home with my fat frenchies. 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: You don't always want to ask you as being an 69 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 5: advocate for mental health ever made you feel more exposed 70 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 5: than being just a public figure in Hollywood. More exposed, Yeah, 71 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: because you tell you tell more of yourself being a 72 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 5: mental health advocate, because you probably if you was just 73 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: Taraji in Hollywood, who wasn't that you wouldn't have to 74 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: probably give up so much. 75 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: That's true. But I kind of always been that, So 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: I wear my heart on my sleeve. So I just 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel any different. I'm still 78 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 4: looking at this wall, but go ahead. 79 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I want to ask, when did you get to the 80 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: point where you don't have to come out for the BS? 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: Right? 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: It's weird. We just had this conversation the other day 83 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: where it was like I got to a place a 84 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: couple of years ago where I just say no. Before 85 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: it was like I felt like I had to do it, 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I had to show up, I had. 87 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: To go and sometimes things up your piece. 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: But now to the point where if I feel like 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: the energy is gonna be off or I just don't, 90 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going. 91 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: No. It is my favorite word. I love saying that 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 4: word no, and that said I don't owe your explanation. 93 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: Like when I was with our forever first Lady Michelle 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 4: Obama doing her show She was like, no, it is 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: a complete sentence, and it absolutely is. 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: When did you get there? 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: When? 98 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: When did it click? 99 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: Which trip was it? The first one? The first one 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 4: when I went alone, the first one, because that that 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 4: refocused me, recentered me. I was. I didn't I felt 102 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: outside of myself before I went to Bali. That was 103 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: a well needed trip because I was literally losing myself. 104 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: I didn't even know who I was the joy. I'm 105 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: a I'm the one that brings the life to the party, 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: you know, and I become I was like tight all 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: the time, not happy and complaining a lot. That's just 108 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: not me. Even my team noticed, they were like, is 109 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: everything okay? You don't you seem a little you know, 110 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 4: And that's just not in my DNA. So I had 111 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 4: to unplug and just go away and be with myself 112 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: and in the middle of a rice field. 113 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: You want to share that with the world that I 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 5: started seeing that people need to hear that. 115 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 4: I think sometimes when they see public figures, they think 116 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: we have it all together because we've you know, we've 117 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 4: found some money or whatever. You know. People think that 118 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: money heals and money will bring you more problems than 119 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 4: you had when you were broke. I often find myself saying, 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: damn I missed when I was broke and dreaming because 121 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: everything seemed possible, you know, but then when you make 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: it and you you get behind the Wizard of Oz 123 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: curtain and it's like, oh, it ain't what it seems. 124 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Straw. 125 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: Yes, a very moving film. 126 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, Yes, listen, what did you What did you channel? 127 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 4: Because you you are healing, you mean your healing journey. 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: But to put yourself in a role like that, you 129 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: had to go back. You had to go back. That 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 6: was a trying day. So the movie was like it 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: took place one day to deal with all that in 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 6: the day and to have to embody that much trauma. 133 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: Because I don't want to give away to ending. 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 6: It's gonna fuck you. What what did you pull from? 135 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 6: Did you have to go put yourself back where you were, 136 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 6: where you were going through everything? 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: Executives. 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: I am a single mother, you know. I moved to 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: Hollywood with my son, who was a toller at the 140 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: time of seven hundred dollars in my pocket and just 141 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: a pocket full of dreams and Jesus and so I've 142 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 4: you know, humans, we all have can have a moment 143 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: where we can snap. You know, I think what made 144 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: me different from Jenia's that I've always had a support system. 145 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: So I have a sister circle where they'll talk me 146 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: off the ledge, you know what I mean. But have 147 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: I ever got to the point where I wanted to snap? Yes, 148 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: that's why I went to Bali, you know what I mean. So, 149 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: but she didn't have the resources, she didn't have the support, 150 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: so all she had was the voices in her head, 151 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: and she literally reached them her point where she just 152 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: couldn't take it anymore, and things just got out of 153 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: control and she God, bless her heart, she was just 154 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: trying to do the best she could with what she had, 155 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: you know. And I in particular, I am drawn to 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: characters who are voiceless and need a voice because I 157 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: am such a big personality. I like to breathe light 158 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: into those characters because I feel like those characters are real. 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 4: You know, Tyler Perry and just pulled us out of 160 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 4: the sky. These women exist, These people exist, and they 161 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: need to see themselves, and they need to know that 162 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: they're not alone and that people do see them. 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: To make you mad when people tell Tyler Perry to 164 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 7: stop showing those women on camera, I. 165 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: Think that's their own trauma's trigger because in the community 166 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: black community, we don't deal with it, you know what 167 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: I mean. So if you're forced to look at it, 168 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: often you will be triggered. So the first thing you're 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 4: going to one to say is I don't want to 170 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: see it, but there are people out there that need 171 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: to see it. He's forcing real conversations in the community. 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: That's why I'll never stop working with him. 173 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: So for a person that doesn't work on themselves the 174 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 5: way you do, when you got to go on an 175 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 5: intense emotional journey for a four day shoot, what is 176 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: your approach to that? 177 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: Like, how do you prepare for like those inevitable triggers. 178 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: I have trained well, I think out of necessity. I've 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: trained my instrument. My body is my instrument, just like 180 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 4: you know, a musician has a guitar, they know how 181 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: to hit the notes. I have a know and off switch. 182 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: And I think that's because I was a mother very 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 4: young and when I would work and come home, I 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: didn't have time to process and deal with the character 185 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: that opportuny because now it's homework. He got eat, I 186 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 4: got a science fait project, you know what I mean. 187 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: So I had to turn it off, so I'm just trying. 188 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 4: I Literally, you ask anybody that I've worked with. I 189 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: could be in the middle of a singing, balling my 190 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 4: eyes out and they'll yell cut, and I'll be like, 191 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: what a fried chicken? Or I have these games that 192 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: I play on my iPad to because I have to 193 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: separate myself from the character. I cannot stay again that 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: is that character's trauma. I can't take that on. I 195 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 4: just can't because I have my own shit to deal with. 196 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: So literally, when they yell cut, I'm back to Taraji 197 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 4: just like that. 198 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Is it easier to shoot a four day movie because 199 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: you did this movie in four days, right? Or is 200 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: it more difficult because you got to do everything in 201 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: those four days. 202 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 4: It's taxing, But I like it, especially when the subject 203 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 4: matter is so heavy, because I don't have to stay 204 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: in it long like I you know, that fourth day, 205 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I gotta do this again, 206 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, because it's not comfortable. Showing 207 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: a character's trauma and pain is like showing you some 208 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: of my trauma and pain and it's healing, but having 209 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 4: to open up those wounds, it's not comfortable. It's not 210 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: comfortable to be in that, but it is healing. 211 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 8: There's a visual reference in the movie. 212 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 7: I think what I call it is a visual reference 213 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 7: to Annie Lee's Blue Monday. Yes, that's exactly it. Okay, 214 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 7: So I'm not crazy, no talk, Okay. So even visually 215 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 7: showing things like that in a film and it being 216 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 7: like that's like that image is so iconic and you're 217 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 7: speaking without speaking when that scene happens, when you're looking 218 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 7: at a script. Is that something that's already there when 219 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 7: you and Tyler Perry are discussing. Perry came up with 220 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 7: that all on his own, okay, Yeah, and he nailed it. Oh. 221 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: I know the painting too. 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: And I've had Blue Mondays, you know where I just 224 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: felt like, shit, I don't want to do it today. 225 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: I think we all understand that. That's why that painting hits, 226 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: especially for black women. 227 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 5: How did your advocacy for mental wellness inform your portrayal 228 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: of Janaia's. 229 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 4: Psychological understanding her breaking point and understanding what it is 230 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: to just be going through the motions barely hanging on 231 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: by a thread, Like I get that, I understand what 232 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: that looks like. That's why at the end when they 233 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: go back, you kind of you like, oh, you can 234 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: see exactly when she snaps it's crazy. I ain't trying 235 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: to do it is crazy. 236 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 6: Somebody in the movie said it's more expensive to be poor. 237 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, So prime example, Tyler said when 238 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: he was homeless, he called his mother and was like, 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: can you send me twenty dollars? She said, you need 240 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: to bring your black ass home because it's gonna cost 241 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: me fifteen dollars just to send you twenty dollars. Damn. 242 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: And I don't think people really understand that. 243 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to know, without giving too much a way, 244 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: what's the message in Straw that you hope sticks. 245 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: With people after the credits roll? 246 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: So there was women unity, There was so much about it. 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: What's that one message that you want people to get 248 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: it and understand. 249 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 4: That we should move with grace at all times because 250 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: you never know what somebody's going through. Never judge a 251 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: book by its cover, because you never know what battles 252 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 4: a person is a fighting You just don't and really 253 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: see people, really don't just throw how you doing, and 254 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: you know, really wait for a response and really ask 255 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: the question to want to know you know, connect with 256 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 4: people say hi, how are you? You know, and really 257 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: mean it, because that could save a human's life, just 258 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: that human interaction, especially for people who feel unseen. 259 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: Only when Tyler even was casting you for that role, 260 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: did he even know what you had went through? Because 261 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: if I write a role about somebody getting to their 262 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 5: breaking point, knowing somebody already had got on, it feels kind. 263 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: Of Tyler and I are friends of verse, and so 264 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: we talk all the time about personal things, and so 265 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 4: he knows a lot about But he said when he 266 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 4: started writing, he just had to. He was going through 267 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: his own thing and he had to get it out 268 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 4: and on the page. And then he said, as he 269 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: was writing, he saw me, and he'll bring me a 270 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: lot of projects, and I'll be like, you know what, time, 271 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: I don't think this is for me. I think this 272 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: is somebody else's blessing, you know. And then he'll just 273 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: keep writing. And when he got straw, he said, he 274 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: hit me. He said I got one for you, and 275 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: he sent it to me and I read it. I said, 276 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: this is it. This is the one. So that's kind 277 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: of how we operate. 278 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: How do you not fight somebody over Tyler? 279 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: How do you not fight because they attacked time, but 280 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: one because he does so much for people and he's 281 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: so good to especially our community, and I think a 282 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of times people don't see that, and even people 283 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: that he don't know that he doesn't know. Excuse me. 284 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: He helps so much. He talks to, he godes, he mentors, 285 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: and you guys are so close. 286 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: How do you not just say you know? 287 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: Because his action speaks louder than the because this man 288 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: owns a studio. What you got? Every raise that I've 289 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: gotten and how I've whenever I'm treated the best in 290 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: this industry is always by him. Every raise that I've 291 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: gotten has come from a black man. 292 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 8: Tyler Perry. 293 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: He doubled my quote in Straw four days of work, 294 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 4: which is so important for when you go on to 295 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: that next he understands that that man has helped. He 296 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: does so much that we don't even know because he's 297 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: not even talking about it. 298 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, you filmed two movies at the same time, Fight 299 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: Night and Straw. Right, did you find the two characters 300 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 6: bleeding into each other? 301 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: It's not at all totally different. He was the first 302 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: director to challenge me in that way because I was 303 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: in the throes of Empire. When he called with acrimony, 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: and I was like, Tyler, I don't know. It's being 305 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: a thesbian. I don't know if I can get into 306 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: this character. He was like, girl, with your instrument, you 307 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 4: can do it. He was like, you're gonna come down here, 308 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: We're gonna shoot it in five I was like five days. 309 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 4: He said, you can do it. If anybody can do it, Taji, 310 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: you can do it. And he challenged me. He knows 311 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: I love a good challenge. That's I lean into roles. 312 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: That scared the shit out of me because I have 313 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: to grow in some way or change or be transcended 314 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: or something. And that's what I want from my audience. 315 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: And if I'm not doing it as the artist, then 316 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: how is the audience going to transform? So I lean 317 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: into challenges and he knows that about him because he's 318 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: a virgo as well. And so now I'm a pro 319 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: ad it because of Tyler. So when he called this time, 320 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: I didn't even think about it. I was like, great, 321 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: four days in and out, Okay, let's go. 322 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 5: In the industry is finally catching up to your arrange? 323 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: Are you still underestimated in certain rooms? 324 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: This is an actress no, I think they get it. 325 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 4: I think I'm at a really particular point in my 326 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: special place in my career where I've done so much 327 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: that I can't just do anything anymore because y'all will 328 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: be like, why should do that? You know what I mean? 329 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: And so you know, it's just looking for that right 330 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: material and it doesn't come like that, so that my 331 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: fans are frustrated because I'll post a pretty picture and 332 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: they're like, that's cute. When your next movie coming out, like, 333 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: I have to be very particular about what I'm choosing now, 334 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 4: and some of this stuff doesn't exist and I have 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: to create it, and so that takes a little longer. 336 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 8: What age were you when you did Empire? 337 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: That was ten years I was forty five. It was 338 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 4: twenty fifteen. 339 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 7: The reason why I asked you that is because I 340 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: saw your interview where you talked about your overseas and 341 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 7: how people received you overseas, and you realized then how 342 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 7: big like us overseas were like that whole thing, And 343 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 7: I'm wondering right now in your career, you just said 344 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 7: you can't do anything, and you get into these different 345 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 7: levels so early in your career, even though you've been 346 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 7: our Taraji forever. What are new experiences that you're having 347 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 7: just in your celebrity life at where you are right 348 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: now in your career that we might have thought that 349 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: you've already experienced before. 350 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess for me, it's always because 351 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: I people always go do you not know who you are? 352 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: Like I went to the girl. I still like to 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 4: go to the groceres. 354 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 8: So by my own damn produce, like by Empire, you 355 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 8: were iconic to us. 356 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, But you know, after so many years 357 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 4: of being told by the industry, oh, no one knows 358 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: you overseas, and then I get overseas and they're like, 359 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 4: did ogi please please? Picture? That still throws me, Like 360 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: I just came back from can and it's the age 361 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 4: range for me, it's like the Grandma all the way 362 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: down sometimes to the great grandchildren. And I'm leaving Connor 363 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: and I forget, you know, I'm overseas. I'm like, don't 364 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: nobody know me? And all of a sudden I get 365 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: crowded by this group of people and then over in 366 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: the corner, I see these young boys and it's like 367 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: a soccer team or something. They're standing there with their 368 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 4: camera and I just I don't even think they spoke 369 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 4: fluent English, but they knew exactly who I was because 370 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: one of them and I was like, babies, come on, 371 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: and they all gathered. I'm telling I'm like maybe ten, 372 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 4: but that always throws me when the babies know who 373 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: I am. You know, I'm just like, dang, I'm still relevant. 374 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: Fifty four years old? You ever want a young girl? 375 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: When black women? 376 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 7: He was like, the age you remind me asking that? 377 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 7: The reason I asked I tell people my age. 378 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 4: Because I hate that women we feel ashamed of age 379 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: and when men can have beer bellies balding, sorry. 380 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 7: I gave, and then we can kind of seehere the like, 381 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 7: but you understand what they. 382 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: Can and then they can have a young thing on 383 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: there and we let that pass and we have to 384 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: be ashamed of our age. No, I'm not doing it. 385 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: At one point, you were flirting with leaving Hollywood. You 386 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: said you were tired with the bullshit, the. 387 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: Little ball before I went to the first time, Yeah 388 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: I had, I remember, I had gotten too a better place. 389 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: But see, that's what happens when you give so much 390 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: power over to humans. See, I know God chose me. 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: I'm called chosen and covered. So when you know that 392 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: everything's not gonna be easy, you know, I had to 393 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 4: get back to that. That's what got me to Hollywood 394 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: with seven hundred dollars in my pocket and my toddler, 395 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: because I knew I had a calling and I just 396 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: stirred away from that. But I'm back. 397 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: You feel appreciated more. 398 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 4: I do, I do. I don't. Look, you know, it's 399 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 4: like it's interesting because you go, I didn't get it 400 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 4: nominated for this award again, that's did you see the 401 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: powerful talk that Denzel did about how he got bitter? 402 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: I mean that was me. That was me, and it 403 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 4: particularly happened after hitting figures. I was like, what do 404 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: I have to do? Like you know, y'all didn't see 405 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: the rain. Yeah, I'm still playing cookie. And then I 406 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: gave you a rocket scientist like what? And that hurt 407 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: a little bit, But again it hurt because of the 408 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 4: power I placed in man's hand. But if you step 409 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: back from that and take that power back, Look how 410 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: many black girls are coding now? Not even black girls, 411 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 4: young kids, kids, period. Like So that's what I always wanted, 412 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: and that's what I asked God. I said, I want 413 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 4: longevity and I want the work that's going to affect 414 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: lives in a positive way. I want the work that 415 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 4: people are gonna study long after I'm gone, like I 416 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: did the greats that came before me, you know, And 417 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: when you ask that's specific. It may not be the awards, 418 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: you know. I figure if I keep working, that shit'll come. 419 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: But what's rewarding to me? Or when fans come up 420 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: to me and go bay whatever? That last it touched me. 421 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: It made me change the way I, you know, think 422 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 4: about things like that's rewarding to me. 423 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 5: Was on the phone yesterday and she was just saying 424 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: how much of a fan of you she is? 425 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: I mean, but I'm just like, there's nothing wrong with 426 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: expressing that. 427 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 5: Share that with her because you just existing provides that inspiration. 428 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: And then she's shamed me because I was just like, 429 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: I was like, you damn right. We saw Toaji. 430 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 5: I saw to Rogi in the theatters for baby Boy, 431 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 5: and she was like you saw baby Boy in theats. 432 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: She made you feel older. 433 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 7: I've never thought about baby Boy in a movie theater about. 434 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: Crazy my son. 435 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 7: But I don't know just how you feel, but I 436 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 7: feel like wanting to be in entertainment being television like 437 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 7: it's you think of you because you're able to be. 438 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: It always seems like you've been able to be yourself. 439 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 7: So when we were like, I know for myself, when 440 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 7: I heard you talk about that before that first body trip, 441 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 7: not feeling like enough, I'm like, wait, what, Like she's 442 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 7: been the this is how you can be the girl 443 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: from where are you from? 444 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 8: Run away? 445 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 7: Whatever you want to call it, But like you're in 446 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 7: Hollywood and you're graceful in your career impacts. So I'm 447 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 7: glad you're out of that because I was like, what 448 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 7: this is? 449 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 8: Dteragp intem like it was. 450 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: Actual burnout because of the work. You know, people go, 451 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: you work a lot. I too, because the math ain't 452 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 4: math and the zeros ain't adding up, you know. And 453 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 4: so because you see somebody working a lot a lot 454 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: of times when it's us, it's because that one job 455 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: is not gonna cover you for the year. I wish 456 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 4: I could just do two films and be like, I mean, 457 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 4: I'm kind of to that point now, you know what 458 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: I mean. But there are actors out there that's just 459 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 4: one job a year because that's how they get paid. 460 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 4: And I don't think people really understand the breakdown of 461 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 4: the math. You know, fifty cent. If somebody goes they 462 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: made ten million dollars, right, you got to remember Uncle 463 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: Sam's coming to take half of that off the top, 464 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: and then you have to pay your thirty or forty 465 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: percent whatever you're paying your team off your gross. So 466 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: you're not taking home ten million dollars. I know it 467 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: sounds amazing, but you're not taking it home. Somebody gets 468 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 4: paid one million for a film, they not seeing that 469 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 4: one million in their bank account. Do the math, you know. 470 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: So that's why. So I think a lot of it 471 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: was burnout and frustration because once I lifted my head 472 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: and was like, why do I have to work so much? 473 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: You know, I just got burned out. That became bitter. 474 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: You know a lot of people thought you were kicking 475 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: Thiland Oprah's back in during the Color Purple. 476 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god, why would they think that. 477 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 5: I guess that they were the producers of the film, 478 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 5: and they thought that when you were complaining about the pay. 479 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: You know, they had bosses, right, thank you? And when 480 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: have you ever seen me drag another woman, particularly a 481 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 4: black woman? Ever? I'm ten toes down for us. Never? 482 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: And then the fact that blogs, and I think it 483 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: was just a campaign so that this black movie wouldn't 484 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 4: do well, right, because to say I even saw some 485 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: bits about it was my fault that the film didn't 486 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 4: do well? Oh yeah, I saw that. What how did? 487 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: How did? How? How? 488 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 7: They tried to say that you because of the conversation 489 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 7: you raised about the money and things that weren't right. 490 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 7: It pivoted the focus to people aren't going to go 491 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: see the film. They care more about what is Taraji saying? 492 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 8: Is it true or not? 493 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 4: That's you know that total now I know it is. 494 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 7: But I'm gonna tell you what the conversation, what you're 495 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 7: referring to. We're telling jess what the most. 496 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: And me and Oprah, I have such a love and 497 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: a fondness for her. She just texted me the other 498 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: day commending me on a job well done in Straw. 499 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 4: So that was all fixtures like and to draw a 500 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 4: wedge between us. But see, I'm not gonna let you 501 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: do that because I went to her defense right away. 502 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 4: Y'all not gonna do that to this woman. All of 503 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: this what she does, I mean, like, stop it, stop that. 504 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: Even with Tyler, Tyler is the person that pays you 505 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: the most. 506 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 4: What I'm never gonna not work with Tyler. That just 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 4: is that's insane to me. I enjoy working with him. 508 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 4: I really really do. We have fun on that set. 509 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 4: I love that he challenges me. I understand. I'm never 510 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: gonna turn my back on us. You know, people that 511 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: go to the Tyler Perry films is a huge population 512 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: of us. Like, so for me to say I'm not 513 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: gonna do it time about, that's me turning my back 514 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: on us. I would never speaking of black women in 515 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: relationships your character and Strolgian and during her like worst moment, 516 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: black women in the movie still like get around her 517 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: and heller around her even almost like forcibly, but like 518 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: not really because they identify with her absolutely. 519 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 7: What is you know, not even the importance? But like 520 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 7: when people watch those moments throughout the movie, what do 521 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 7: you want them to take from that? 522 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 4: That we need each other and we're more powerful when 523 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: we support each other. I'm a huge you know how 524 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 4: I am with the sister girls, you know? And I 525 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: told this to the Spellman Lady graduating class of twenty 526 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: twenty five. The last thing I said to them was like, ladies, 527 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 4: like we are more powerful in numbers. We need to 528 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: support each other. Do not air your grievances with another 529 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 4: sister in public. You got a problem with her, pull 530 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: it to the side. That's between you and her. To 531 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: fix that is not for the public to weigh in 532 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: with their shallow opinions. I said, it's black women. We 533 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: take too many bullets from society. Why why would I 534 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: be another obstacle for another sister to get over. I'm 535 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: just not gonna do it. 536 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 8: Earlier today. I need it to depend on her. How 537 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 8: we've had this. 538 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 4: I'm glad. That's beautiful, and that's growth and more of that. 539 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 4: But it breaks my heart when I see sisters go 540 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: at it in public. It does something to me because 541 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: we have enough to overcome. Why should it be another 542 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 4: sister like we got the same struggle. 543 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: So the dynamic between you and Sherry Shepard and Leanna 544 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 5: Taylor in the movie, that's the enhanced like the exploration 545 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 5: the sisterhood and solidarity is. 546 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely Tyler wrote that, and he doesn't do anything by mistake, 547 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 4: like he's a virgo. He's very calculated. 548 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 8: Because I was wondering that dynamic was that something you 549 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 8: brought in? 550 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: But it was already there. It's already there. He wrote 551 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: it like that, see, because you know Detective Raymond, who uh, 552 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: Tiana plays so effortlessly that girl. Let me just say 553 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 4: this about Tiana. She coming for everything, y'all. She's coming 554 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: for everybody and everybody's next and everything. She what I 555 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: love about her. I mean, she just leaves nothing on 556 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: the table. She checks every box. She's just incredible. Have 557 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: you seen the snippet for her new video Come As 558 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 4: the mini movie that she directed. 559 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: Yes, in front of the camera, behind the camera. 560 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 4: Every gift that God gave her, she is using an 561 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: I mean, sweetheart, I love her anyway. When she starts 562 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 4: hearing my character Jania's story, she totally identifies because she's 563 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: a single mother, so that touches her right. She's like, 564 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: wait a minute and see for us. Do you have 565 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 4: you ever seen that that series call is it The Center? 566 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 4: It's called The Center, and it's about people who do 567 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: these crimes. And there's this gentleman who's a detective and 568 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: he goes to the why. There's always a why, and 569 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: when you understand the why, then you're able to show 570 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 4: compassion and give some grace because people just don't do 571 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: stuff just because they're pushed to a point. I'm not excusing. Yes, 572 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 4: I'm not excusing the d that has been done. But 573 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 4: if we can just understand why, the why. And that's 574 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 4: why I'm always playing the why of my characters, because 575 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: I want the audience to feel for the person. If 576 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: I didn't play the why of cookies, she could have 577 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: been just another sass, smart mouthed black woman. No one 578 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: would have cared. But because I got to her why, 579 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 4: everybody in the world could identify with her. Lays the 580 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: cookie too. You know, do you. 581 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 7: Think that the layers that we see in Jenia and 582 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 7: Straw in her having to learn to be like actually 583 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 7: admit that she's not okay and not just covering things up, 584 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 7: and you talk about your personal life not being a 585 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 7: life of a party anymore and being okay with that. 586 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 8: Do you think that that. 587 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 7: That's something that after watching this movie people can take 588 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 7: on easily or like, what do you think people's journey 589 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 7: to get to that point will be after watching this movie. 590 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: Everybody's journey is different. Some people find it hard to 591 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: very difficult to deal with trauma because it's it's not 592 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 4: easy going through therapy. You gotta deal with the ugly 593 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: shit first before you get There is no way to 594 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: get over a storm or under a storm. You gotta 595 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 4: go through it before you can see the sun. But 596 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: the sun always shines, but you have to go through it. 597 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: And that therapy journey is not for the week, and 598 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: some people, unfortunately, spend their lifetime just dodging it. And 599 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because your life can be so much better 600 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: if you could just heal, because you find yourself, you know, 601 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: almost like a Gerbil in the wheel. If you're not, 602 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 4: because the same shit that you think you're running from, 603 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna wherever you are, wherever you go, there you are, 604 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: and all your problems you cannot. 605 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 8: You're not drinking or decision and not drink anymore. 606 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Okay, So I do have my wine, and I do 607 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: I love my seven daughters, but I do take breaks. 608 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 4: For five months, I had stopped drinking because I felt 609 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 4: like I needed clarity. I needed to get rid of 610 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: some negative energy that was in my life that I 611 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: couldn't see because and not to say that I have 612 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: a drinking problem or anything like that, I just think 613 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: like you fast sometimes because you need to reset your system. 614 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: I did this sobriety for like five months, and then 615 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: you know, when I have to promote my wine and 616 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: I do really like my seven daughters, but it's a 617 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 4: it's low in calories, and it doesn't get you like 618 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: plastered like you. I mean, I can sip it by 619 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: the pool and still function, you know, But I do 620 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: have moments where I fast from that as well, because 621 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: I just think it's great for my mental because I'm 622 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm present. 623 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 7: I was going to ask what presence did it bring 624 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 7: before you at and prepare for this role? 625 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I was able to get up in 626 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: the morning. And another thing I find when I don't 627 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 4: drink is that I can work out, you know what 628 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: i mean. Like, that's one vice that I pick up 629 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: and I go hard with. I mean, I'm sure you've 630 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: seen some of my videos that I'm pouring into myself 631 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: because I'm present, you know, I'm not numbing out. 632 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 5: What's one quiet decision to Roger you made that had 633 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 5: the biggest impact on your career but never made. 634 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: Headlines the biggest say that again, it was one. 635 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 5: Quiet decision you made that had the biggest impact on 636 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: your career but never made headlines. 637 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: Quiet decision. I mean, it seems like everything I do 638 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: makes the headline because I thought me going to BALI 639 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: was gonna be quiet, and it's still we're still talking 640 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: about it. I think I talk about everything. I don't 641 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: think you know, because I feel like if you have 642 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: a story to tell, tell it. I try to keep 643 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 4: my breakup. Gab. Oh, that's a good one. I'might have 644 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 4: to call you back on that one. You have to 645 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 4: call you back. Well, this is not even this is 646 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: not even a question. 647 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 6: But in watching Straw, I got John kevibes, Oh my gosh. 648 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: Well. The difference with John Q is that he was 649 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 4: very conscious and what he was doing. He was trying 650 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: to save his son, and he was like, I ain't 651 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: got no money. The insurance is not paying, so I'm 652 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: gonna stick y'all up, you know. But it was like 653 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: what you would do, what links you would go through 654 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 4: your new mom for your kid. It hits you in 655 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: a new way, doesn't it. When you become a mother, 656 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 4: and it's real, like it's not about you anymore. Once 657 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: you become a parent, you have this whole existence and 658 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: being and human that you are responsible for. And if 659 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 4: you are a responsible person, that's a very serious job 660 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 4: for you. Like you know, before you were probably like 661 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 4: I'm a you know, you know, a public figure. Now 662 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 4: it's like I'm a mom first, you know. So it's different. 663 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 4: Life is different when you have that kind of responsibility 664 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 4: and you'll do anything for your child and you and 665 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: the hurt that they feel, you feel it ten times 666 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: more because you feel like it's my job to protect 667 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: this child. And so when they're bully, you ready to 668 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: go to wall because it's like, no, how dare you? 669 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: You know? 670 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 6: And Jeniah snapt but she kept going, didn't he Really 671 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 6: she didn't know. 672 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: She had no idea. She was operating outside of herself. 673 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: A lot. 674 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 5: We know a lot of things you do are super 675 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 5: intentional because, like you said, you so, what's the most 676 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 5: strategic thing you've ever done? 677 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: That people mistook as emotional? 678 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 4: Probably talking about the paying that because I have a 679 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: crying about money. I tell you what, bitch, if you 680 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 4: want to eat, you better speak the fuck up right. 681 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: The squeaky wheel gets figged, mouth don't get fed right. 682 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna tell you who's not complaining about that 683 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: money anymore? 684 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: Because after that, Hollywood started coming. 685 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: Correct, man, listen, they have to you do you want 686 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: to hit my mouth again? I demanded that respect. This 687 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: is my last question. Are you happy? I'm so happy. 688 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 4: I can't expect people go you're glowing? Yes, because I 689 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: am not dealing with nobody's a hell child at peace, 690 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 4: the peace that I have been fighting for. I have it, 691 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: and it has nothing to do with anybody, no other human. 692 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: It's all in me. I love you. I love you. 693 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: Do you even tell the unhealed people anything anymore? 694 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 4: No? No, because sometimes they ain't ready to hear it. 695 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 3: I will say, I hope you heal. 696 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 4: I do say that, you know, I just cause sometimes 697 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: they take that all right right, you know? So it's 698 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 4: just for you to discover. 699 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 8: Sweet well, thank you? 700 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: Is this Friday? 701 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 4: Netflix? 702 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: Definitely check it out. 703 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: And wait till you see what we do for you 704 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 3: in this building. 705 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 4: You see is it a bust? 706 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 8: What does that mean? 707 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 2: It is a bus like a. 708 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: Is it? 709 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 710 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: Don't put no badass wig on it. 711 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: Like yesterday will be a bust. 712 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 4: Okay, were in the situa of his table in the. 713 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 5: Hall because people will see it whenever they want. So 714 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 5: you have to go buy Angie Studio and. 715 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 4: Coming it look like me. Don't like. 716 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 2: The way waves when the way Wade statue that don't. 717 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 4: Don't do that, yeah, because that's okay, not mine. And 718 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 4: I met thank you. 719 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 7: For your career than not ending the interview yet. I 720 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 7: thank you for that, thank you, thank you for you. 721 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 5: Yes, that's your career, you the person that you are, 722 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 5: because your career has given you the platform to be 723 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: out here being the mental health advocate that you are. 724 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 5: And I think that that work is going out outlive 725 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 5: probably anything, I hope. 726 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, that to me feels like probably why God 727 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 4: set me up to be a public figure to get 728 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 4: to that. Absolutely, yeah, so grateful, Thank you so much, guys. 729 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: This is beautiful and gentlemen, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, 730 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 2: wake that ass up in the morning. 731 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club.