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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Master psychic author speaker Barbara Jean Lindsay experienced an NDE

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine that awakened her psychic ability. She

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Speaker 2: teaches people on how to access their own innate psychic

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Speaker 2: ability in order to help navigate the earthplane and make

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Speaker 2: correct decisions. A couple of her books include Dying for

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Speaker 2: the Light, Ambassador for the Light, and her website is

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Speaker 2: linked up at Coast tocoastam dot com. Barbara, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the program.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. George.

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Speaker 2: We're looking forward to this. We're going to have fun

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Speaker 2: for the next couple hours and you're going to do

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Speaker 2: some readings next hour.

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Speaker 3: I hear right, Yeah, I'm excited about doing that. Super

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Speaker 3: my favorite thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent. Tell us a little bit about you before

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Speaker 2: the near death experience, which I want to get into

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Speaker 2: in a big way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I was like your normal average Merrick girl

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Speaker 3: homecoming queen, had the two point five kids and lived

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Speaker 3: in Sacramento, California. I had an art gallery and real

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Speaker 3: active in the local community and looking for something though

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Speaker 3: a little bit more. It wasn't enough. I had everything,

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Speaker 3: had all the stuff, had all the vacations, the cars,

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Speaker 3: the house. But I just was looking for something more.

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Speaker 3: There had to be something more than that, and I

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Speaker 3: just started exploring psychic phenomena. I met a girl who

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Speaker 3: had disability, and she gave me a free psychic reading,

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Speaker 3: and it just changed my life, and I started to

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Speaker 3: learn about it. So I was going to school and

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Speaker 3: learning about it. When I had the ND, I wanted

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Speaker 3: to know everything about spiritual everything by five o'clock through

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Speaker 3: and so I kind of got that when I had

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Speaker 3: the MD and when to Acoma and had a whole

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Speaker 3: different experience there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened nineteen eighty nine? Tell us about it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, it was kind of a wild day. When

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Speaker 3: I got up, got the kids ready for school, I

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Speaker 3: was feeling a little bit weird. I went to the

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Speaker 3: psychic school. They said my energy was way off the

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Speaker 3: scale and they kicked me out of the school.

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Speaker 2: And they kicked you out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't help me. And I thought if anyone

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Speaker 3: could help me, they could, because I figured they had

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Speaker 3: seen everything at that point, but they at a school,

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Speaker 3: you want to keep it neutral energy, and my energy

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Speaker 3: was out of control and it was playing with the

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Speaker 3: energies at the school, so they asked me to leave,

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Speaker 3: and so that kind of scared me even more because

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Speaker 3: I felt like there was something going on. I was

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Speaker 3: a little bit out of time, out of sync, and

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Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what it was. And so that night

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Speaker 3: I went to a women's healing center to see if

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Speaker 3: they could do some hands on healing to help me,

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Speaker 3: because I just knew that I just needed some extra

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Speaker 3: kind of help because I had never been in the

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Speaker 3: state before, And so I walked into the women's healing

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Speaker 3: center in the middle of winter in December fourth and

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Speaker 3: as I started to walk into the building, a lady

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Speaker 3: came in said, hey, she was told that someone would

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Speaker 3: need an inhaler and she thought it was me, and

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Speaker 3: so she handed it to me. And I walked into

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Speaker 3: the building and I couldn't breathe, and I felt like

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Speaker 3: ten thousand knives going into my chest and the pain

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Speaker 3: was so excuciating that I popped out of my body.

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Speaker 3: And when I popped out of my body, my body

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Speaker 3: slumped to the floor and I don't have memory of it,

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Speaker 3: but they put me back up in the chair and

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Speaker 3: I pull body channeled the being from Egypt in a

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Speaker 3: male voice that said, I'm here to kill Barbara because

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Speaker 3: she has information that can't be given at this time.

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Speaker 3: And it scared everybody, and then it ended up being

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Speaker 3: actually clapped my lungs and I flatlined and was taken

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Speaker 3: to the emergency care there. Just happened to be a

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Speaker 3: and helped save my life. Yeah, I was pretty pretty wild,

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Speaker 3: and my oxygen levels were just at the brink up death,

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Speaker 3: never be the same, and I didn't know how bad

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Speaker 3: from from the people that were in the school at

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Speaker 3: to a beautiful, beautiful place where there was absolutely no

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Speaker 3: body at all, and I was fully present in this undulating,

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Speaker 3: warm vastness of water and love. And in this loving, beautiful,

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Speaker 3: immaculate waters and all this love there, I had never

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Speaker 3: experienced love that much in my whole life. And I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of a loving and nurturing, happy kind of person anyway,

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Speaker 3: But in this love, I it was beyond my idea

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Speaker 3: positive person, but this was beyond the love that I've

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Speaker 3: never had experience before ever. And as I'm in this undulating, love,

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Speaker 3: beautiful space, I look down and I noticed I don't

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Speaker 3: blew my mind and my consciousness expanded.

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Speaker 2: So it's been thirty four years since that near death experience.

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Speaker 2: Have you had any medical issues since then like that?

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Speaker 3: I haven't had any other ntes at all. I still

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Speaker 3: have asthma, and I thought that wasn't fair, because you

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Speaker 3: go through something like that and you come back and

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Speaker 3: I still have asthma, but I'm still controlled. But I

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Speaker 3: haven't had any kind of no lasting, permanent damage at all.

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Speaker 3: A total miracle, according to my hospital records.

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Speaker 2: Were you puzzled by the experience. When you came back,

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Speaker 2: were you curious? What did you do? I?

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Speaker 3: Well, what happened is when I came back, I was different.

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Speaker 3: I was different in a lot of ways, mainly that

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Speaker 3: I could all my psychic abilities turned on like one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent. So someone would come into the hospital room

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Speaker 3: right and I could read them. I could see their

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Speaker 3: pain or their suffering, or where they were happy or

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Speaker 3: where their joy was. And that was new to me,

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Speaker 3: and it was out of control. I didn't know how

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Speaker 3: to control it at all. It was just this new

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Speaker 2: Did you have any assistance from the other side, any helpers?

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Speaker 3: I did, and I did learn that I was never

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Speaker 3: alone when I went through to the other side, I

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Speaker 3: was never alone. I met a guardian there and he

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Speaker 3: telepathsed to me, and all this was new to me. George, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know any of this. I was just minding

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Speaker 3: a big white hood, a beautiful sense of presence, a

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Speaker 3: male presence. I never saw his face, but he said

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Speaker 3: I could call him the Guardian, and so I did.

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Speaker 3: And so his job, he said, was for me to

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Speaker 3: And so during my time, I was in a coma

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Speaker 3: for about three days. And during that time I have

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Speaker 3: full memory of it like it was yesterday. And they

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Speaker 3: took me to different places and I had different experiences.

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Speaker 3: And then when it was time for me to come back,

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to come back. I was having such

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Speaker 3: an amazing time and I was so fully present there.

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Speaker 3: It's not like a dream. It's not like a movie,

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Speaker 3: it's not like as I was one hundred percent present

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Speaker 3: having that experience, and it was really beautiful. And when

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Speaker 2: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Though that's what they said, that's what brought me back.

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Speaker 3: They said, what, Barbara, you have three kids, And I said, oh,

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Speaker 3: my gosh, that's but I do. And I go, yes,

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Speaker 3: the next thing, I saw my body laying down in

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Speaker 3: and I said, who is that? I didn't even recognize

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Speaker 3: did finally recognize it, I just went, oh, my gosh,

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Speaker 3: little bit putty, but not too bad. I did, And

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Speaker 3: so then I was ready to go back in the body,

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Speaker 3: and that's when the guardian said, before you do, we

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Speaker 3: gave me the gift of white light, and I was

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Speaker 3: to give me its white light. Everybody knows about white light.

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Speaker 3: And they thought that was really funny. And so then

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Speaker 3: kind of pulled me back up again, and the guardian

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Speaker 3: said to me, we would like to make you ambassador,

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Speaker 3: so I said, well, maybe I'm an ambassador of art.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm thinking, as I'm going down into my body,

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Speaker 3: well maybe I'm an ambassador of love. Maybe I'm an

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Speaker 3: every little morsel of me into one totally filled up.

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Speaker 3: And then the next thing, I remember sitting up in

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Speaker 3: and I pull it out and I said, I'm starving.

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Speaker 2: You want nachos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I said, and and I was, And

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Speaker 3: it was like I had felt like I had just

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Speaker 2: Now, the psychic abilities, when did they really start kicking in?

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Speaker 3: Right right from that moment you could tell?

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Speaker 2: And how did you know you had them? What did

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Speaker 3: Well? I just when people would come in, like my friend,

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Speaker 3: you know, Cindy, when she came and talked to me,

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Speaker 3: I knew something was going on with her and she

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Speaker 3: and she said you're right. I didn't want to bother

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Speaker 3: be okay. But I could tell, you know, something's going

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Speaker 3: couple of days, I'd say about three days, my hospital

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Speaker 3: and even the doctors would come, and they would hang

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Speaker 3: I would talk to them and help them. And I

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Speaker 3: think at that point I was still more coming from

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Speaker 3: the other side than here, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Would you recommend that everybody get a near death experience

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Speaker 3: Again, I think I would shy away from it in

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Speaker 3: The physical part of it was so excruciating, and I

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Speaker 2: Your kids are in their late thirties forties right now.

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Speaker 2: What do they think of this experience?

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Speaker 3: They're glad it's done. At the time, they just wanted

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Speaker 3: in because we would go to like this that time,

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Speaker 3: we would go to seventy eleven and get a slurpie

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Speaker 3: feel it and it was out of control. No, not

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Speaker 3: you know, they feel your heart, they feel your presence,

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Speaker 3: been through this whole process with me, they're they're okay

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Speaker 2: Describe describe Brabara, what the other side is like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, when you're there on this other side, the

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Speaker 3: colors are beautiful, it's like technic color. And there's different plants.

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Speaker 3: felt like. And I met different guardians and I met

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