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Speaker 1: First of all, Bro, we appreciate you being on the show.

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Speaker 2: You know, big fan of yours a lot of wards

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Speaker 2: against you, uh turning to play against you in high school,

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Speaker 2: so I appreciate you being on our show.

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Speaker 1: Rocking with us, Bro, we really do.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Thanks.

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Speaker 2: When you first got to the league, who was the

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Speaker 2: first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 3: The first person I got to go with Stefan Marbury.

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Speaker 4: Stefan Marbury, Man, he was really good and very very.

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Speaker 5: Phoenix or New Jersey Phoenix, Phoenix Phoenix.

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Speaker 4: I remember we played them in the playoffs in O

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Speaker 4: three and you know he banked that shot. You know,

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Speaker 4: game work, yes, and you think that buzzer beater is

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Speaker 4: an unbelievable shot. And man, he was killing me that

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Speaker 4: the first two games. He was going at me and basically,

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Speaker 4: welcome to the NBA. Because you know, my rookie year,

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Speaker 4: I did very well, played great against Gary Payton and

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Speaker 4: and we lost against the Lakers. But I played well,

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Speaker 4: you know, and that was my first time that I

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Speaker 4: was like, man.

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Speaker 3: This guy is like really really good.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to step up my game if I

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Speaker 4: want to do something in those playoffs. And I got

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Speaker 4: back at him, but man, he was really good. Stephan Marbury.

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Speaker 4: Now remember to Steve Francis too. At the beginning, when

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Speaker 4: I first arrived in the league, Steve Francis was no

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Speaker 4: joke with the ISOs and stuff like that, and and

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Speaker 4: it was good test for me to try to play

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Speaker 4: good defense, stay in front of them and all that

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Speaker 4: you can't play defense on those two, you might have

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Speaker 4: a chance in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: Right up, yo, yo yo, we live on location.

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Speaker 5: Me and the blackest One got a special special treat

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Speaker 5: for y'all today, man, NBA Hall of Fame, a four

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Speaker 5: time Nbawn, NBA Finals, MVP, six time All Stole, four

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Speaker 5: we got a whole.

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Speaker 1: Damn night, a real night.

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Speaker 5: In real life. We got Sir Tony Parker in the building. Ladies,

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Speaker 5: j TP, we appreciate you, man. Should we just say

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Speaker 5: sir or TP or knight sirever you want it? No, Man,

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Speaker 5: we appreciate you pulling up TP.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: But yes, sir, he was born in Belgium, but you

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Speaker 2: was raised in France. Man, you didn't have been to

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Speaker 1: It was actually, yeah, it was it was friends, won't it.

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Speaker 1: That was when TP was a young boy.

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Speaker 5: That was remember when Nike was on all those kind

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Speaker 5: of like the mixtape commercials. But it was like they

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Speaker 5: had a lot of soccer ones going on because Ronaldo

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Speaker 5: was like the biggest thing. When we got the Friends,

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Speaker 5: You was like the Tony probably gonna be the next

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Speaker 5: there and you was coming up then. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: overseas for like it was probably about three weeks, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, went all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to Belgium and all this stuff. So

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Speaker 2: your first love was soccer, so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So basically my dad is American.

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Speaker 4: He played basketball college in Loyola and uh and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you went to have a career in Europe and yeah,

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Speaker 4: they first start with Amsterdam and that's why he met

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Speaker 4: And then we moved to France, and both of my

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Speaker 3: So I played soccer six to nine years old. And

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Speaker 4: And I finally the first time I saw Michael play.

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Speaker 4: All that happened in Monaco. And so I went to

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Speaker 6: So tell me this.

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Speaker 5: When you was a young boy, you first got to see,

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Speaker 5: like you said, Michael and Magic playing and that's what

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Speaker 4: It was like magic, you know basically what I was

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I saw the World Cup and I wanted to play soccer,

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Speaker 4: but I don't know. When I saw the NBA finals,

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Speaker 4: the hight behind it and the way that Magic played,

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Speaker 4: the way that Michael played, you know in those finals,

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Speaker 4: it just I was like looking this as a kid,

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Speaker 4: I was like, I want to become the first French

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Speaker 3: When I saw that, I was like, I want to

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So tell us about the experience of your first time

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Speaker 4: So the first time I met him, I was fourteen

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Speaker 4: we went to see the Balls. So it was during

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Speaker 4: the ninety six season where they had seventy two wins

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Speaker 3: It was like in December before Christmas.

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Speaker 4: It was doing our vacation school vacation, and I was

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Speaker 4: I was like shaking, you know to say hi to him,

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Speaker 1: Was he glowing when you're saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an aura. You know, It's like it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: The charisma that is unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: It makes you feel like you're like looking at him

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Speaker 4: You know, He's the only person ever that in my

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Speaker 1: It's real.

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Speaker 3: I met a lot of famous people, you know in Hollywood.

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Speaker 6: I say that too, I say that sports.

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Speaker 3: He is the only one that I'm like wow.

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Speaker 1: And it's every time, every time, every time.

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Speaker 3: I met him many times, and he became a friend.

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Speaker 4: He's the most famous guy that I have on my phone,

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Speaker 4: you know, with my friends.

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Speaker 3: You know, when Michael called me, you know, like look,

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Speaker 4: Even today after winning all those championships, you know, still

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite times he came with Charlotte.

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Speaker 4: So I retired in twenty nineteen, the year after Charlotte

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Speaker 4: comes to France, you know, to play the European Games,

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Speaker 4: and Michael came and we hang out and we went

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Speaker 4: So I was so happy, you know, I go to

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Speaker 4: he's like, hey, Tia, I want to go out tonight.

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Speaker 4: I'm like what you mean. God, It's like I want

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Speaker 4: So I call my friends and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: sure the VIP thing, everything we have. Security has to

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Speaker 4: I'm like no, no, no, I'm dead serious. And they were

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Speaker 4: I told Michael. I was like, let me go first,

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Speaker 3: I arrived to the club, I'm like, yo, guys, Michael

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Speaker 3: my friends they were like all dying. They're like, man,

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan is zero. Was so funny.

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Speaker 5: They's like he normal, like he don't think the whole club.

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Speaker 6: But I ain't abody to come over there and just

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Speaker 4: That's what I love about it, though, you know, you

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Speaker 1: It's normal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you stop playing soccer. How was the transition?

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Speaker 2: Like where did you start what organization or league that

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Speaker 1: You ever picked up a ball to play with the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because my dad was a basketball player.

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Speaker 4: So I technically I played basketball since I'm three years old.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just that when the team in the structure,

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Speaker 3: I started.

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Speaker 4: Then I switched to basketball when I was nine, and

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Speaker 4: so I started in the Normandy. It's a region it's

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Speaker 4: And then at fourteen years old, I got selected to

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Speaker 4: go to Incept. Incept is where all the best players

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Speaker 4: So that's why I met Ronnie truy Side. You know,

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Speaker 4: we all played together in the third division. So that's

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Speaker 4: why I played very early professionally, like fourteen to seventeen.

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Speaker 4: I played three years in that division and then at seventeen,

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Speaker 4: and then I got drafted by the Spurs at nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I remember you.

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Speaker 2: Ever since then I knew who he was and kind

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Speaker 4: So I did so well that I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: So when I came back then people start taking taking

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Speaker 2: You know, is it true you almost made a decision

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so ultimately I decided to stay and stay in Paris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell us the decision to make you decide

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Speaker 4: So that's a great question, Gause, because it was a

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Speaker 4: And the whole process, say, this whole process thinking it

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Speaker 4: go to a good team. And as a point guard,

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Speaker 4: let's try to go to a good team. And so

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Speaker 4: say put your name now. Yes, you're nineteen, but if

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Speaker 3: It'll be better for your game.

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Speaker 6: That's what I want to have, that foresight, real talk

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Speaker 5: Like all of us at that age, all we concentrated

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Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Q I wanted to do

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Speaker 3: I want to be in the lottery.

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Speaker 4: Like I was saying the same thank you, and my

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Speaker 5: That's dope. Shout out Pops on that one shot down og,

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Speaker 3: So during the draft, I was in New York.

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Speaker 4: I was in New York and I went to the

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Speaker 3: So I did all the workouts.

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Speaker 4: I did demail deMause because at the time, you know,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, for European players. So I did fifteen workouts

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Speaker 3: There's no way we're going to get you. You're going

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Speaker 4: So what we're going to try to do is we're

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Speaker 3: And I was like, okay.

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Speaker 4: In my mind, I thought I was going to go

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Speaker 3: With me and.

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Speaker 4: So two workouts and so then they had three first

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Speaker 4: That's what I was telling myself, right, So the draft

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Speaker 4: you know, to trade back. And then Boston they go

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Speaker 4: And so then at nineteen, Chrissy, who works with NBA

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Speaker 3: She's like, okay, is you going to come up next?

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Speaker 4: the head coach and the GM, so Jim O'Brien the

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Speaker 4: They wanted me, but our back was like, no, I

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Speaker 4: want Joe Forte from North Carolina, you know. And I

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Speaker 4: So it was like, nah, I don't want this, but

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. But the overall took Joe Forte.

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Speaker 4: Dad the Firs are starting to go crazy, you know,

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Speaker 4: because like man a player that were ready to draft

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Speaker 3: All the way to twenty eight. I had to give

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Speaker 4: it was like I don't worry. Coach Pop's not going

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Speaker 4: And then I came all the way down and got

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Speaker 5: So you got to shake stern hand, then yes I did.

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Speaker 5: get the cap on and shake David's turn here, and

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Speaker 1: To do that.

446
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 3: There was an amazing feeling, an amazing feeling.

447
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 4: I felt like I made my dream, you know, and

448
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 4: I was so happy, and I don't.

449
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: Know, it's hard to put words into it.

450
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 5: You know.

451
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 4: I was walking up and I was so proud because

452
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 4: you know, when I did my second workout there with

453
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 4: the Spurs. So that was five days before the draft,

454
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 4: I was driving around San Antonio. I remember calling my

455
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 4: dad and say, man, I love it here. You might

456
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: be right, You might be right. Maybe the Spurs will

457
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: draft me because coach Pop said they're going to try

458
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 4: to trade it to get me. So that's the team

459
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 4: you were talking about. I'm going to play for a

460
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 4: good team, yea. And I told my dad that five

461
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 4: days before I got drafted, I said I have a

462
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,160
Speaker 4: feeling maybe I'm going to go with San Antonio.

463
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, maybe Boston's going to take me.

464
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 4: But I have a feeling it's going to happen in

465
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 4: San Antonio, and so when I got up, I felt

466
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 4: like it was meant to be, Like it was destiny.

467
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: You know that I got drafted by the Spurs because

468
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: I loved the city and everything was great and I

469
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 4: was going to a good team.

470
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: So you get there. What was your first reaction to

471
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan.

472
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, before I talk about Timmy, you know,

473
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 4: I get drafted, I shake it David's hand.

474
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: Then I go in the back.

475
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 1: You know.

476
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: I talked to coach Pop and I was like, Pop, I'm.

477
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: Going to show everybody all those teams they made a

478
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 4: miss stake to draft me at the end of.

479
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: The first round. I was crazy at nineteen ten.

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: I'm sure he was thinking, yeah, let's see if you

481
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: make Veteran came first, you know, but the first time

482
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 4: I saw Tiny, I was like.

483
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 3: Man, I was kind of impressed, obviously.

484
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 4: You know, I knew he was a superstar, multiple All Star,

485
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: MVP of the All Star Game, like I knew it

486
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: was a franchise basically, and so I knew that I

487
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 4: had to earn his respect if I want to have

488
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: a chance to be that the point guard of that team.

489
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 4: I have to earn a team's respect, and he made

490
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 4: it tough on me, like the whole first year. People

491
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: think I joke when I say that, but it's true.

492
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't talk to me the whole first year.

493
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: I didn't think. I don't think he believed that a

494
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 4: little French he can be his point guard for the

495
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 4: next ten years, you know. And it's not until I

496
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 4: played great against GP in the playoffs that he finally

497
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 4: talked to me, because he was like, man, if he

498
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: can't play good against Gary Payton, I think we have

499
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: something better.

500
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 3: Timmy.

501
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: It was very tough for his first year, but I

502
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 4: didn't back down.

503
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: You know.

504
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: Mentally I was ready.

505
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 4: My dad did a great job to prepare me, and

506
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: I was ready for my rookie season and my first

507
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: year with the Spurs teamMy won MVP of the NBA.

508
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: How was that for you to see that up close

509
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 5: and personal, because it's like, that's not something that you

510
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 5: get every day when you come in as a rookie.

511
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: Your teammate is the MVP. You playing in the playoffs,

512
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 5: going d like, how how was that? And then you

513
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: was a young guy, you was nineteen twenty you weren't

514
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: like a older rookie company in and nothing like that.

515
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 5: You were young, So how was that for you to

516
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 5: deal with?

517
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: So I was nineteen first European point guard, so I

518
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: had a lot of different pressure, you know, and I

519
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: wanted to show Americans that French guys can play. And

520
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: the first practice Kevin Willis, I went to the basket

521
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: that Kemvin Willis like basically body slammed me straight to

522
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 4: the ground, you know, and I got up, you know,

523
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: I got up and I went straight at him, you know,

524
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: and pushed him, you know, just to show that I'm

525
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: going to go in the paint every single time, doesn't

526
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: matter what you're going to do.

527
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: That was my game, you know. I went against you guys.

528
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: You know.

529
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: I was I will go to the basket.

530
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: I will go to the basket.

531
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: And I remember, like I thought Pop was going to

532
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 4: like basically kick me out of practice, you know, and

533
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: he came to me and he was like, I love

534
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: that because he knew that I was not going to

535
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 4: back down. And so after five games, we were on

536
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: the plane we were coming back from Portland and Pop

537
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: called me back in the plane and he was like,

538
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 4: tomorrow you're starting, He's like you're starting. After five games,

539
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 4: He's like, you're starting. And my first reaction was like

540
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: what Timmy says?

541
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: Because I was just what is Timmy think?

542
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: That was my first answer, and Pop's say, Timmy, be

543
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: all right, okay. In my first game I started, it

544
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 4: was against Orlando against Grant Hill and t Mac.

545
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: I played well.

546
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: My second game starting in Charlotte that had twenty five

547
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: points against Baron Davis, and then it was I was ready.

548
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 3: Then the rest was history. But not it was that easy.

549
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 4: You know, you know your rookie season, you have a

550
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: lot of up and downs. You know you're going to

551
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 4: hit the rookie road and Pop was really really tough

552
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: for me. Sometime I came back home and had tears

553
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: in my eyes. I didn't know if I was going

554
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: to make it. But the next day I always came

555
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 4: back and I was like, no, I'm just just gonna

556
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: make it happen.

557
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 5: You know, speaking on that right there, how was that

558
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: to have, you know, vets like Tim Dunk and Steve Smith,

559
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 5: David Robinson like, for you say you going, You're a

560
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 5: nineteen year old, you navigating this. It's a long season,

561
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 5: y'all playing for something. It means something like how much

562
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 5: did it help having those type of veterans on even

563
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 5: though they was hard on you, but they could give

564
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 5: you some knowledge when you kind of needed it too.

565
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: Now asked a great question because I was nineteen and

566
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: I was the only young guy right because everybody was vets,

567
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: like you said, But David Robinson was super nice to me,

568
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: very very helpful. Bruce Bowen definitely helped me my rookie year.

569
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: Terry Porter as a point guard, t Yeah, showed me

570
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: how to, you know, navigate between all those stars that

571
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: we had in the team. Steve Kerr was very nice

572
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: to me, took care of me.

573
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: Melik Rose like.

574
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: All of them, they took me under their wing because

575
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 4: I think they saw that I was willing to learn,

576
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: and I was very humble and I was ready to

577
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: do anything, you know, to make it in that team.

578
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: Especially Pop putting me in the starting five after five games.

579
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 4: Give me credit, you know, right away, But then I

580
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: had to earn the respect of everybody.

581
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: Tell me about this run your second year, your playoff run,

582
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: Like you you played GP, you played Marl Berry, you

583
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: play Jason Kid, like your matchup was the matchup every series?

584
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 3: Ya every series. In the newspaper, they were saying, they're

585
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 3: not gonna win the point guard matchup.

586
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 6: This is the mismatch right here exactly.

587
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: That was the mismatch in every series. I had to

588
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: show them.

589
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got busy that playoffs. Well, just tell us

590
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: about just that playoff run. And you know, you coming

591
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: into these series and you seeing who you gotta match

592
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: up with, and these are all of the star players of

593
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: the other team.

594
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, how was that it was?

595
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: It was a number. It was an unbelievable run. And

596
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: I feel very blessed and grateful.

597
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: You know that in my second year, Uh, you're going

598
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 4: through a playoff run like this is just unbelievable.

599
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Because my rookie year, we lost against the Lakers.

600
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: So Kobe and Shaq won their their three peat and

601
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 4: so the whole focus, you know, when I got drafted

602
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: by the Spur, all the questions they asked me before

603
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: the draft is how can we beat the Lakers, How

604
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: you can help us beat the Lakers, How.

605
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: You can do this and that.

606
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: So my whole focus is, like, we have to beat

607
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: the Lakers, and so we lose against them. I had

608
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: a good series my rookie year against them, but we lost,

609
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 4: and so coming into my second year, I was very

610
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: focused on, Okay, how can we beat the Lakers And

611
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: it was one of the best feeling ever when we

612
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 4: beat them in LA Game six. I remember Timmy having

613
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: thirty eight and I think I had thirty and just

614
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: to have a great game and to close that game

615
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: against one of the best team ever with Shaq and

616
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: Kobe doing the three peat, it just gave us a

617
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: lot of confidence, you know, to finish the job, you know.

618
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: And so in the conference finals we played the Mavericks.

619
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: I had a great series. That's the famous Game six

620
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: when Steve Kerr hit the four threes, you know, and

621
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: we beat them, and then New Jersey. It was my

622
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: first time, you know, playing at that level. You know,

623
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: NBA Finals. You're playing against the best point guard of

624
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: the league at that time, you know, Jason Kidd and

625
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: like pretty well against him for the first final and

626
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: uh and to be able to win a championship at

627
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: twenty one years old, it is very rare. You know,

628
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: only me and you know in Kobe, you know, we

629
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 4: have all those records, you know on the twenty two

630
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: years old you know, yeh, playoff runs, playoff wins all

631
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.

632
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: It's nice company obviously.

633
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: Hey, let me ask you this though, Like after winning

634
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 5: that first title, right, we all know, like the first

635
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: thing you won't do is go back to the hood, right,

636
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 5: So when how was it for you to go back

637
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: to France all of everything they was saying, and now

638
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: like you coming back, I'm like, now I'm really that dude.

639
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: I got how he was laughing. Now I'm the one

640
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 3: to know.

641
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm that dude. I got Larry with you what you're

642
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: talking about now.

643
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: That feeling was nice, especially with Nike.

644
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 4: Nike at the time, you know, before my second year,

645
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: we signed a a huge contra excuse me with Nike,

646
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: and so they organized a huge basketball camp, uh in

647
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: last Defonse. You know, it's a famous spot in France.

648
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: They put it the basketball court and everything. They brought

649
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: NBA players and read the time like a Pacino Mobley came.

650
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: The league rose.

651
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: But it was a huge basketball camp and it was

652
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: nice to share that with all of my people in France,

653
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 4: to bring a championship, first time they see the trophy, first.

654
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Time a French back an NBA title.

655
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: It was just an amazing feeling and it was nice

656
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 4: to share that with everybody.

657
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: Would you say at that point right there, that was

658
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: kind of like the kickoff, like obviously when you got drafted,

659
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 5: but like that kind of solidified, like the Spurs gonna

660
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: be France team.

661
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 6: Kind of a little bit, oh.

662
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: No, for sure, for sure when we won the title,

663
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: that that's when I really realized. I'm like, okay, we

664
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: want the title, but I was hungry. I was like, okay,

665
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: we want the title, but I want to win more.

666
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: I want to try to be All Star. Before my

667
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 4: dream was like I want to be an NBA and

668
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: if I can be a good backup, that's good.

669
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: That was my thing.

670
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: You know.

671
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 4: I never thought, uh, be in a position where you

672
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: can win the championship. And so after winning the championship,

673
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: then my next thing was like, okay, I need to

674
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: improve my shot. I finished, you know, I was finishing

675
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: reading an article. It was Tiger Woods who just won

676
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: the Tiger Slam. You know, so he won, you know,

677
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: the Tiger Slam, the three in two thousand and the

678
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: one in two thousand and one. So he wont the

679
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: Tiger Slam, and he was like, I'm going to change

680
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 4: my swing to try to be even more better.

681
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, how can you be better? You

682
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: just want all four men.

683
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I thought that was crazy, you know,

684
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: but I was reading the article and I was like, man,

685
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: if Tiger Wiz can do this, then I can try

686
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 4: to change, you know, my shot to be more consistent.

687
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: Because then I was like, once I want the championship,

688
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: I wanted to be more consistent. I wanted to be

689
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: an All Star, you know, really wanted to be that

690
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: guy next to Timmy.

691
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: You know.

692
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it true that Kobe learned French to talk

693
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: shit to you?

694
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so true.

695
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, me and me and Kobe were good friends. And

696
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: and every time You'll come with different words and try

697
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: to talk trash to me, and every time I.

698
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Was like, Hockey, you find that time to learn.

699
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 4: Out of this just to come mess with you exactly,

700
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: because you know, they like they always start with Derek

701
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: for sure, you know, in the first half, but then

702
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: second half they always put Kobe on me. And so

703
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: that's why, like Kobe always took the challenge, you know.

704
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: And it was funny, you know, Kobe was always ready always.

705
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: How was it you know when you hearing the teams

706
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: back in the day, because it was a big man

707
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: game back in the day. And mostly the big man

708
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: be the guys who lead the points in the pain.

709
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: But your name used to always be on top of

710
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 2: the list and points in the pain. And you know

711
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: their defense for you is to try to hit you.

712
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: You're coming in the pain.

713
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: How was it for you to be relentless and keep

714
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: on attacking the pain even though you have Shack and

715
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: Tombo and all these big guys. That's trying to really

716
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: discourage you, now.

717
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: But I was fearless the mouse. I was just fearless.

718
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: And you know when I first arrived in the league,

719
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: that was my main weapon, you know, to be fast

720
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: and to create stuff for my teammates, you know, for

721
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Timmy or Favo or on the outside. I always had

722
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: great shooters, you know. In three we had Steven Jackson.

723
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: I loved playing with Stephen Jackson, my new Steve Smith,

724
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 4: you know, Steve Kerr. We just had great shooters. So

725
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: the way it was built is me penetrating and being aggressive.

726
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: And I just love challenging bigs.

727
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: It was just my thing. I just love doing that.

728
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: And the cold thing he played all eighty two. Though

729
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 5: he played all eighty two games, he ain't missed a

730
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: game doing that.

731
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

732
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 4: It's funny because when you see my body, you think

733
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: it's like very thin. But I always remember, like the

734
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: big guys, every time I will go inside and hit them,

735
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: they're like, man, you're pretty strong with that little body.

736
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: It's just the way I was built, a little bit

737
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: like ud mouse. You know, you like you think, but

738
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: you you like strong, you know.

739
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 2: And tell you that because I'll be trying to tell.

740
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: But for me, you know, with that force and coming

741
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: with that speed, I always felt like really strong when

742
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: I when I went inside and uh and and it

743
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: proved that, you know, with my longevity, you know, because

744
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 4: I played a long career in the n b A,

745
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: I didn't miss a lot of games, you know, always

746
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: there for the big playoff runs, you know.

747
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: So no, I always took care of my body, and

748
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: I always had that mentality.

749
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: Your sicknature shot is the floater?

750
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes, you done floated from the free throw line.

751
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: When did that come? Like your ultimate go to?

752
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Like this was like I can do that because you

753
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: know everybody can't float the ball like that.

754
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: You got to have yeah, exactly, So you.

755
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: Need to have a good touch. She need to have

756
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: a good touch.

757
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 4: You need to have a good control of your body

758
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: and speed and when to do it, you know, because

759
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: it's all about timing and rhythm.

760
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 3: The way you're going to do it the chear drop.

761
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: People think, you know when you see it all as easy,

762
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 4: but when you do it a game at full speed

763
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: and do it at the right parte like that the

764
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 4: big day day off rhythm, you know, to try to

765
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: block your shot, and I always had a good feel

766
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 4: for that, between the tear drop or layups off my

767
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: wrong leg, you know, to try to.

768
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Get it before the big skin block it.

769
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 4: I always had a good feel for that since I

770
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: was a kid, because I was not very tall. I

771
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: was very skinny and very small. It took me a while,

772
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: you know, to grow and so to score the basketball.

773
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: It was the only way it was to shoot tear drops,

774
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: you know. So I mean since I'm a little kid,

775
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: and so when I first arrived in the NBA, that

776
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: was a great first weapon for me to be able

777
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: to score and be aggressive and put pressure on the defense.

778
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 4: You know, to be on the paint and either a

779
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: pass or either a shoot, to try to find that

780
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 4: happy middle, you know, between scoring and passing and tear drop.

781
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: It was always my thing.

782
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: And I remember when I arrived in San Antonio, they

783
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: had the iceman, you know with the finger roll.

784
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: But me, I said, I'm going to do the chair

785
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: drop off two legs. That be my shot. Everybody will

786
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: know me for that shot.

787
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: Tell us how easy it was to be Q and

788
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: that Phoenix Science team and the playoff.

789
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: That's really how you're going to ask that question, Like,

790
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 5: that's really just that's what we're going.

791
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 6: Go ahead, go ahead, I'm gonna let you do.

792
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: Man.

793
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Phoenix Sons. Phoenix Sons is the.

794
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: Pioneers, the pioneers of how the NBA is playing now

795
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: because now it's like it's Phoenix, but two.

796
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: Point zero now Phoenix.

797
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: Man, they were tough, man, Demus, they were really tough.

798
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: And uh, they were a very good team.

799
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: And we always knew that, Man, if we want to

800
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: win the championship is going to go through Phoenix, you know.

801
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: And it's funny because in the playoffs, you know how

802
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: the style change. You know, in the playoffs, it goes

803
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: more of court and all that kind of stuff, and

804
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: Phoenix try to impose their will against us, and will

805
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: try to impose our will, you know, in our style

806
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 4: of play. But I remember just great series. Two thousand

807
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: and five was crazy. Two thousand and seven was crazy

808
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: with Robert Orri hitting Steve.

809
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: National all that kind of stuff.

810
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: All the series against Phoenix, they were always like always amazing,

811
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: amazing plays. It was the highest level. And in Phoenix,

812
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 4: you have to give them a lot of credit. You know,

813
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: they were very close to win a championship. That's why

814
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 4: I can't even like talk trash to Q because winning

815
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: a championship, it's a fine line between winning and losing.

816
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: And I've been on the other end a lot, you know,

817
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: but it could have been Phoenix.

818
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: You know.

819
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: That's how close it is, championship and now winning a championship.

820
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: So that's why when you win, you really have to

821
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: enjoy it because it's hard.

822
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you what the difference was, and it haunts.

823
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 5: I think it haunts all of us to this day.

824
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: And you can remember, like y'all game plan. I said, Okay,

825
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: Steve and Tomari, y'all the only two to get to

826
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: play basketball. And they because of this Black they said that,

827
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 5: because of this because they knew Pop them knew that

828
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: we were not gonna we were not gonna pivot and

829
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: do nothing different. We was gonna do this to the death,

830
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 5: cause they put I can't remember whether it was TP

831
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: on me or TP on Joe and then my new

832
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: on on the other one. That's a post up game

833
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 5: for either of us all day, and we did not

834
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: do it. One time we stood in the corner and

835
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: they stood here and then go out of us face

836
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: to face, and we just stood here, like I was

837
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: so mad, bro I was, I was so mad, Like

838
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: neither one and you like back then nobody even knew.

839
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: But like Joe obviously they saw what he was able

840
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 5: to do. And he's six, say he was able to

841
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 5: do that right then he could have posted anybody up

842
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: on that team.

843
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: Not one time.

844
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 5: We kept doing it, and like it was games like

845
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: stat statuld go crazy forty Mario. I mean Steve was

846
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 5: getting thirty, but like that wasn't our team and they

847
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: knew that. They were, Like we could deal with them

848
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 5: two going crazy, but if we let them get crazy

849
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: and dn they started hitting the threes, that's when all

850
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 5: chaos break out.

851
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 6: And he and Pop came in with that game plan.

852
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 6: We ain't pivot, Well, no, we could do then.

853
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: That was our strategy. Q you's so right, and they

854
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 4: drove to me crazy, you know, like.

855
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 6: That going on here getting.

856
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: And then us we will not help.

857
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 5: No help, no help, don't move, don't no help.

858
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: We're not helping, not helping.

859
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: And it's funny because it will weigh down, you know,

860
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: and Steve and o Mart and then in the fourth quarter.

861
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: They get a little bit tired.

862
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: And that's what we made, you know, the two three

863
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 4: times that we needed because we never we never blown

864
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: you up. You know, it's very close game all the time,

865
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: but we always knew that at some point, you know,

866
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: it's gonna break, you know, and we're gonna take advantage.

867
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: You know.

868
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: And it happened because we you know, you know how

869
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: it is. Do you just standing there getting face guarded.

870
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm frustrated, Joe, frustrated. Everybody just stunning here watching and

871
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 5: I'm talking about like he say, no help. We in corners, bro,

872
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 5: they face guarding us. Meanwhile, pick and roll going on

873
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 5: in the middle of the man. They don't care what's happening.

874
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 5: But that's how everything always shake looks for us, that

875
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 5: pick and roll coming. Everybody reacted. Then it's boom, boom, boom,

876
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 5: three Tony like this like job on the other side,

877
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 5: like this, just in that face, they just standing there.

878
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: It's like, Bro, you won your second ring, but the

879
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 2: next year your peers vote you to be an All Star.

880
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: How was that feeling to be an All Star and

881
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: to be like ninth in MVP voting that year? And

882
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: you know, when you start getting your peers to really

883
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: start appreciating you individually.

884
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: But that's the best feeling. And I think every NBA

885
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: player we have the same feeling. The most respecting is

886
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 4: to get it from your peers. You know, when your

887
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: peers vote for you. For me, that's the best feeling.

888
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: You know, my teammates or the people that I'm playing against,

889
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: that's the best feeling ever to me. And I think

890
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: it's the same feeling for a lot of players or five.

891
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: I win my second ring, and that's when I made

892
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: you know, that summer decided to work with a shooting coach.

893
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: His name was Chip England.

894
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 5: Just like you know, we worked through him coming out

895
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 5: in the draft be a machine exactly.

896
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: And that's when I started working with Chip, you know.

897
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: And that's how I got better then with my main

898
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 4: range and improved my three point shot. And that's when

899
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 4: I made my first All Star team in two thousand

900
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: and six, and uh and so Chip was very very helpful.

901
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: He's the best.

902
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: You know, that's the standard, not the gold standard when

903
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 5: it comes to being a shooting coach.

904
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 6: Exactly the g Hill batty A why.

905
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly, No, No, Chip, Chip is the best. And

906
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: so for me, that's the best feelings themouse is I

907
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: have the respect of your peers.

908
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 5: You selfless and you you know, you don't like to

909
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 5: take all the credit, but how did it feel to

910
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 5: get that MVP of the finals though? Like that's a

911
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: different swag than just winning and you coming back with

912
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: an extra little trophy, Like how did that feel for

913
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: you personally? The little kid and you that was like

914
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 5: I want to be this and I want to be

915
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: the best friends this and the like what did that

916
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 5: do for that little kid inside of you?

917
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: I want to give credit to Timmy. That's what I

918
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: was talking about the early on. You know how.

919
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: Unselfish he was, because Timmy can score thirty any time

920
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: he wants. And the matchup in that series, I had

921
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: Booby Gibson on me and Larry Hughes and so basically,

922
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: you know, it was a good matchup for me and Timmy,

923
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: it was like, let's go with Tony and man I

924
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: was aggressive the whole series, shot the ball very well,

925
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: and it's.

926
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: A no unbelievable feeling, you know, because I.

927
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 4: Want two championships already, so now I'm winning a third

928
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: one with becoming the first European to be m VP

929
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: of the finals. That that was pretty special. Q. I'm

930
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: not gonna lie. That was very very special to me.

931
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: That was pretty cool.

932
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: Why do you think that y'all couldn't back to back?

933
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: Do you think?

934
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: When it's crazy? So I'll go year by year. So

935
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: two thousand and three we win, and then oh four,

936
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: Derek Fisher shot, Yeah, crazy shot, crazy shot. Point four

937
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: they changed your rule rule change shoot not possible and

938
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: the reference like it's good. I'm like what.

939
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: That game was so crazy? That game because made ahead

940
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: of a shot on shot and everything.

941
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 4: So we were like we thought we won, you know,

942
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: and then point four referreging it click on time, you know,

943
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: and they counted shot. I was like, that was crazy,

944
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: but okay, that was the Derek Fisher shot. Then we

945
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 4: went in O five six. Man like Manu my favorite

946
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: teammate ever. Loved Manu to death, you know, but why

947
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: did you foul? We were up three, you know, up

948
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: three in Game seven, and I don't want to say

949
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: too much on that. You know, anybody can make mistakes.

950
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: I made a ton of mistakes, you know. But but

951
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: we were up three. Dirk goes to the basket and

952
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: Manu found him and he makes the free throw. We

953
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 4: lose in overtime, and and we lose against Dallas Game

954
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: seven at home. That would that hurt in six and

955
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: then eight we beat New Orleans and games in seven.

956
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: That was a tough series. CP was on fire that

957
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: year and they had a great team in yourns and

958
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, I felt like against the Lakers Kobe,

959
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: I guess it was just this year, you know, like

960
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 4: he was MVP and man, he had a hell of

961
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 4: a series against us in eight and it just didn't happen.

962
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: So it's hard because you're like, man, why we didn't

963
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: back to back, you know, and then we don't we

964
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: don't go back to the finals for a while, you know,

965
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: like twenty eleven, we have the best record in the league,

966
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: we lose in the first round against Memphis, and then

967
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 4: twenty twelve, that's that year was crazy twenty twelve, we

968
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: win our last eleven games of the season, got the

969
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: best record. We sweep, we sweep in the first round.

970
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: We sweep the Clippers CP and the Clippers, we swept

971
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: them in the semis. Were up to zero against OKC.

972
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 4: So we won twenty one games in a row. So

973
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 4: we all fired twenty one games in a row, and

974
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: then we lost four in a row. It's crazy sometimes,

975
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: all it's hard to understand sometimes. And we lost We

976
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: lost both games, and okay, see, you're like, okay, game five, man,

977
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: James Harden had a hell of a shot to win

978
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: the game in game five. Step back, and then we

979
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 4: lose Game six, and then the season is over. After

980
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: winning twenty one games in a row, you're like, man,

981
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: we didn't make the finals.

982
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 3: And then twenty thirteen, you know what happened.

983
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: You know, were up three to two and were up

984
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: five with twenty eight seconds and that's the famous reality shot.

985
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 5: Like tell me this, like from your everybody that was

986
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: in this game, this question, like that emotional pendulum to

987
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 5: like you know, y'all up. You see the people putting

988
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: the rope around, they bring in that they about to

989
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 5: get the all of this is about to happen.

990
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: Let me bring it back even a little bit.

991
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, do that.

992
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: It's a tight game. I hit the step back on Lebron. Okay,

993
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: step back three, go up three, relations and Lebron makes

994
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 4: a play. I stole the ball, went all the way

995
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 4: to the basket. We up five with twenty eight seconds.

996
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: In my head, I promised you. I'm like, man, we're

997
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: gonna win the championship. Like, I'm like, I step back three.

998
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 4: I don't hit a lot of step back I was.

999
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 4: I was like, then still then score. I was like, man,

1000
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: were up five. I'm like, we're good, you know, yeah,

1001
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: twenty eight seconds. I remember Pop was talking and I

1002
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 4: can see my family coming down. They're putting the ropes

1003
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: and everything. I see they're preparing everything. You know, it's crazy.

1004
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: And then man, we.

1005
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: Went one for two on the free throw, then one

1006
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: for two free throw kawhi, so we up three. Lebron missed,

1007
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: and man, we didn't get the rebound. And then Ray

1008
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: hits that shot.

1009
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: It was crazy. That shot is amazing, like going back.

1010
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: It was crazy shot.

1011
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 5: And the fact that he's a real jump shoot, like

1012
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 5: people don't understand, like he.

1013
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 6: Real use my legs. So that's likely, and like he

1014
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 6: described it to us.

1015
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: He said, the only way I was able to do

1016
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 5: that is because I've done it a million times working out.

1017
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: Because the way no, you know, we all know as

1018
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 5: who was if you you're not ready to get your

1019
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 5: feet says no way.

1020
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 6: He did everything perfect as it could be.

1021
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: Boom boom, boom bam, and then even.

1022
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 6: Did his little signature a little fit when I said, god,

1023
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 6: I say, look, I said, that's the bad boy right there.

1024
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: Oh, that shot.

1025
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: It was amazing. I was right there because it was

1026
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 3: on me, you know, I was right there on him.

1027
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: You know.

1028
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 4: It's the best I could do because I didn't want

1029
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: to follow him, you know. And that shot was amazing.

1030
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: And then we lose in overtime, and then we lose

1031
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 4: Game seven, and that was maybe the best shot to

1032
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 4: do back to back, you know, because then twenty fourteen

1033
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 4: we resmacked them.

1034
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: In twenty fourteen, you know, it's not even close. You know,

1035
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: we won four one.

1036
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: We play the beautiful game, like they say, you know,

1037
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 4: like the passing game. We played unbelievable in the finals

1038
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen. And when I look back, I'm like,

1039
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: maybe that one was the best chance. Do you know,

1040
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: to go back to back. But but then two thousand

1041
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 4: and six, Man, we had the best recking in the league.

1042
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: I think we won sixty four games in two thousand

1043
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: and six. Man, I wish we played the Miami in

1044
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: the finals. That would have been ahead of the finals

1045
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 4: against Shaq and d Way, you know, But it is

1046
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: what it is. At the end of the day. You know,

1047
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: you got four championships. It's a lot of championships already,

1048
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: you know. But but I wish we did it back

1049
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 4: to back, but it didn't happen.

1050
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: The focus though, the focus that year after y'all lost

1051
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: the way y'all lost to Miami that first time, How

1052
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: was the focus like the next year to get all

1053
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: the way back to the finals.

1054
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 4: So I'm going to backtrack a little bit, like twenty thirteen,

1055
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 4: we losing the finals. Okay, two weeks after, my national

1056
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 4: team coach calls me, say, Tony, you're going to play

1057
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: with the national team, and I was like, no, I'm tired,

1058
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 4: Like we just lost in the finals, you know, and

1059
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to chase the MOUs Q, the first gold

1060
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: medal in the history of French basketball. Okay, I've been

1061
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 4: playing with the national team since two thousand. It's been

1062
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 4: thirteen years. Never want to go medal. Forty eight hours

1063
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: after I changed my mind and I said, coach, I'm coming,

1064
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: even if some of the guys are not coming, you know,

1065
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: because we a lot of good players.

1066
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, I'm taking my summer off.

1067
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: I was like, man, it's not our best team, you know,

1068
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: but I'm coming. First game of the European Championship we

1069
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: played Germany. We lose by thirty. In my head, I'm like, man,

1070
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 4: I knew I had to go to the Mount Deeps

1071
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 4: and go to vacation.

1072
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: Why in front of them, I'm.

1073
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 4: Like, come on, guys, just the first game, you know,

1074
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 4: it's all right. And I was like, man, it's gonna

1075
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 4: be a long European championship. Lost by thirty. First game,

1076
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 4: I was like, it's gonna be a long European Championship.

1077
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: We go in the quarterfinals, qualify, barely qualify. We play

1078
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: Slovenia in Slovenia against Draggas and we beat them in

1079
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: front of twenty five thousand people. It was a crazy game.

1080
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 4: Beat them.

1081
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: Then semifinals we play Spain. That was the team that

1082
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: beat us.

1083
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: The last couple of years, beat them in overtime, and

1084
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: then we play in the final Lithuania and we finally

1085
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: get the first gold medal of the European Channel with

1086
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: French history. So that was amazing because I was chasing

1087
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: that for thirteen years my NBA career.

1088
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: I won my second year. I was kind of like,

1089
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: you know, kind.

1090
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 4: Of yeah, exactly exactly, national team man. I went every

1091
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 4: summer to the national team Q to carry, you know,

1092
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: my country, to bring in there and try to be

1093
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: her pioneers for the next generation. And we'll talk we'll

1094
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 4: talk about that later, you know. But I was like

1095
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 4: trying to chase for that gold medal. So when I

1096
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: finally got the gold medal, I arrived at training camp,

1097
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: I was so happy.

1098
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: Q D Miles I showed my gold medal.

1099
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: Pop.

1100
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: He didn't care about my gold medal. He was like, oh,

1101
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 3: but me, I was happy I got the gold medal.

1102
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: Man first film session, first practice, first film session. He

1103
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: showed us the last three minutes of Game six, last

1104
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 4: three minutes of Game seven.

1105
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: I was like, Man, I didn't want to watch this right.

1106
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: The whole move.

1107
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 6: You came here, killed it.

1108
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: And we were right back at it, Man, right back

1109
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: at it.

1110
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: That focus that we had in twenty fourteen was amazing,

1111
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 4: and it's crazy because we've been winning fifty plus games

1112
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: for like thirteen fourteen years in a row, went to

1113
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: four NBA Finals, all that kind of stuff. Twenty fourteen

1114
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 4: we were like focused, like everybody, like I never had

1115
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: a year that we were that focused because I think

1116
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 4: everybody understood it might be our last chance to win

1117
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 4: a championship. You know, I was thirty two, man who

1118
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 4: was thirty seven, Timmy was thirty eight. You know, Kawhi

1119
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: was coming, but not quite you know, it was not

1120
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: quite the Kawhi we know now. You know, So that

1121
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: year we were super focused. And when we beat OKC

1122
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: in the conference finals. I know, if you remember in

1123
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 4: an interview, Timmy said, and Timmy never talks like that,

1124
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 4: never really talks trash. You know, he was like, Oh,

1125
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 4: we're going to do it this year. We're going to

1126
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: do it this year. On the interview, I was like, man, okay, TD.

1127
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: Was right right.

1128
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: So we arrive against Miami, we were ready to go.

1129
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 4: You know that that series, like we dominated that series,

1130
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 4: like like we were plus twenty every game.

1131
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: It was a blowout.

1132
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: Like the first two games was one one, and then

1133
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: the last three games we were up twenty every game.

1134
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: How impressive was it for you, Like, as a guy,

1135
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 5: like you said, you've been playing a long time at

1136
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 5: this point, You've been in a lot of finals, You've

1137
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: been in a lot of big games. How impressive was

1138
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 5: it for you to watch Kawhi's growth and how he

1139
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 5: like stepped to the forefront during that series, and how

1140
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 5: he not only just you know, played for your offensive,

1141
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 5: but he had the task of guarding Lebron and he did,

1142
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 5: you know, one of the best jobs on him during

1143
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 5: that series.

1144
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: So that year I was the only All Star of

1145
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 4: the team. That year, I made the All Star team,

1146
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 4: but you can see that Kawhi was coming up, you know,

1147
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 4: that year, Kawhi was really coming into his own. And

1148
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: I saw it, you know with myself with Manu, the

1149
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 4: improvement that we had, you know, being on the coach

1150
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 4: pop and the great job that the coaching staff is doing,

1151
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: and the way Chip improved my shot. I figured like,

1152
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: if he can do the same thing with Kawhi, it

1153
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 4: can be scary. And then in twenty fourteen, it was

1154
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: as a yeah, it was how you say that in English?

1155
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 4: You know it's coming out party. You know, it's like

1156
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: the way he played defense on Kawhi was amazing.

1157
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't think you can do better than that.

1158
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: And offensively, you know, he was just getting into his

1159
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: own you know, like where they operate, where he can score,

1160
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: you know, and playing off me and Manu and off

1161
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 4: Timmy and he had ahead of a series against Miami.

1162
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: Could you have ever imagined that you, Manu and Timmy

1163
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 5: would become you know, the winning his trio and playoff

1164
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 5: history like you was like you say, Timmy didn't speak

1165
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 5: to you, You ain't message and fast forward y'all three

1166
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 5: tie the record for the winning and then gone to

1167
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 5: break the record.

1168
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 6: Like how did that feel to accomplish that?

1169
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: It's crazy cute because if you think about it, like

1170
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: a little frenchie and guy from the Islands or was

1171
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: supposed to swim and the other one from Argentina, like

1172
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: to have that chemistry to play together and to be

1173
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: that good for so long, you know, the longevity, you know,

1174
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: to be the winning istrio and the NBA you can

1175
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: never like nobody can can like I don't think in

1176
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 4: the Spurs nobody can know that something like that. You know,

1177
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 4: That's why the draft is not a perfect science, you know,

1178
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 4: like like nobody can know that I'll be twenty eight,

1179
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: is picking I'm going to do that career or man

1180
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 4: who is fifty seven? You know, he was saying in

1181
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: Italy in second Division fifty seven and he's going to

1182
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: become a Hall of Famer. So it's crazy the way

1183
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: that happened. But at the end of the day, like myself,

1184
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 4: Timmy Manu, we always told each other, we want to

1185
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 4: do what's good for the team and try to win

1186
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 4: championship and try to build, you know, a dynasty, and

1187
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: we never let our ego be in front of what's

1188
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 4: important for the team, and it's starting with Timmy. Timmy

1189
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 4: is the most unselfish superstar that I've ever known, you know,

1190
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: Like the way Timmy played and the way that Timmy

1191
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: gave room for me to become an All Star or

1192
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: same for Manu.

1193
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: Timmy was unbelievable.

1194
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: And we never had arguments like nothing, like it's crazy

1195
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: to get along for that that many years. It was

1196
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 4: just a blessing for me as a point guard to

1197
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: have two teammates like this. It was unbelievable.

1198
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, you know, man, you be

1199
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: hearing a lot of commentators, a lot of people. They

1200
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: always mentioned all of these teams and their championship runs,

1201
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: but they always seem to not appreciate the Spurs how

1202
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: they should be appreciated.

1203
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel like y'all are supposed.

1204
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: To be appreciated a little bit more of what y'all

1205
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 2: accomplished over them years.

1206
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, Dimas, I don't really care

1207
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 4: about that, you know, because I lived it and I

1208
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: have the rings, and we all first ballot Hall of Famers,

1209
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: So it's hard for me. It's hard for me to

1210
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: say they don't appreciate us, you know what I mean?

1211
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Like Manu is the first ballot Tivy two pop me,

1212
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: so that's the ultimate respect. Like all four of us,

1213
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: we first ballot Hall of Famers. So sometimes they're going

1214
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 4: to talk about the Bulls and they're going to talk about,

1215
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, Golden State and the Lakers in Boston. But

1216
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 4: I really feel like our teams they're up there and

1217
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 4: that conversation with all.

1218
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: Of those things. That's sure, That's how I feel.

1219
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 4: But then if they're not going to talk about it,

1220
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 4: it's okay because at the end of the day, numbers

1221
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: don't lie.

1222
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 3: You know, and all that kind of stuff, all those records.

1223
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 4: They're going to see it. They're gonna be like, oh wow,

1224
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: that's the Spurs. Oh the Spurs for twenty years. I

1225
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: was joking with the young fellas.

1226
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: I'm with the Spurs right now, spending time with the

1227
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: young guys, and they just did back to back sixty

1228
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: loss seasons.

1229
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 4: You know, I can't only imagine sixty loss and one

1230
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: season back to back. I was like, my worst season

1231
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 4: is forty eight wins, and half of my career I

1232
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: went to the conference finals. So and I made the

1233
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: playoffs every year. So I was telling that to the

1234
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: young guys, and it was like, put in perspective how

1235
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: long we were, Like how good and for how long?

1236
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 4: So like you have a long way to go before

1237
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 4: you can compare to us, you know, And so that

1238
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 4: gives them a motivation.

1239
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 3: You know, we have a high standard with the Spurs.

1240
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely feel that way. Man.

1241
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: I feel like y'all deserve as much credit as possible

1242
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: what y'all accomplished, what y'all did. I just feel like,

1243
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: you know, the style of play, you know what I'm saying,

1244
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: or differing like that.

1245
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: That might be the reason but like you said.

1246
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: In a championship and stuff like that.

1247
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the numbers in the championships don't lie. And if

1248
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: you're an NBA player, you know.

1249
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 1: Anything about it.

1250
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: It's hard as hell to just win, let alone win

1251
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: a championship exactly.

1252
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: And so that's why when people sometimes I've seen the

1253
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 3: media just say we.

1254
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 4: Were boring or whatever, I'm like, but if we're boring

1255
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: and we win four championships, I'll do it every day because,

1256
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: like you, just save the mouse.

1257
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: It's so hard to win.

1258
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 4: And when you're done with your career, all you remember is,

1259
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: you know, the championships. You know, the championships, Like like me,

1260
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: that's all people talk about, you know, is like the

1261
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 4: championships that we won, you know.

1262
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: And so now I'm very proud of what we accomplished.

1263
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I said for you, Tony, since you don't

1264
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: want to say, y'all motherfuckers need to start mentioning these

1265
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: furs and y'all mentioning all these goddamn champions y'all did

1266
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: y'all think too?

1267
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 5: It's kind of the same way it win every season

1268
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 5: for them, Like the whole time they would be in

1269
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 5: the background, they talking about whatever, teams they think the

1270
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 5: new hot teams this year, and they try to loan

1271
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: doing they thing, win sixty games, get to the playoffs,

1272
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 5: and then win the championship. So like it's kind of

1273
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 5: you know, part for the course of the way they've

1274
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 5: been handling them. But it's all good that I mean,

1275
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: like you said, the numbers don't lie. But more importantly,

1276
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 5: the players know, we know, all us respect it. So

1277
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 5: that's what really mattered.

1278
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: And exactly cute.

1279
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 4: And so for me, I'd rather have the respect of

1280
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: d miles you saying that than the media.

1281
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't care like what they say, you.

1282
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 4: Know, but the players, like last month I was playing

1283
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: a friendly game in China with Ray Allen, you know,

1284
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 4: and found Marlbury Continuo mobile, and they show so much

1285
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 4: respect for what we accomplished.

1286
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: I prefer a hundred times that than the media.

1287
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: Period most definitely.

1288
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 5: This is what I want to ask you though, Like

1289
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 5: I used to have to guard the motherfucker I hated it.

1290
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: Tell me this about when you first met Minu. Did

1291
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 5: you know how good he was? Had you seen them

1292
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: before that, you know, like had seen him play, Like

1293
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 5: talk about how dope of a player and how special

1294
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 5: of a teammate Minu was because I feel like y'all

1295
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 5: hole stretch. He was one of your biggest X factors,

1296
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 5: and he was like kind of like the you know,

1297
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 5: the unsung guy to I'm gonna have to Ben six man,

1298
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 5: And they just talk about how special he was.

1299
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 4: Manuel Manu is the most unique player I ever played with.

1300
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: He was just that good, you know, and he will

1301
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 4: always make timey plays. He had a knack, you know,

1302
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 4: to make big shots, you know, at the right moment

1303
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 4: and make big plays like offensive rebound or take a

1304
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: charge or all that kind of stuff. Manu was just

1305
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: gifted with that. He just had a higher IQ and

1306
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 4: his basketball knowledge was unbelievable. And when he first arrived

1307
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: in the NBA, I knew he was that good. Because

1308
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: Manu arrived he was twenty five when he arrived in

1309
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 4: the NBA, So I saw him playing Italy and playing

1310
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 4: so well in the U League. So when he came

1311
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 4: to the Spurs, I knew exactly what we were getting.

1312
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 4: And so that's why we made the jump right away.

1313
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1314
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 4: Three that was Manu's a rookie year, and we win

1315
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 4: the championship and so you know, the Nike Hoop Summit.

1316
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 4: That was the only game where scouts can see us play.

1317
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 4: You know, now they send scouts everywhere everywhere everywhere. You

1318
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: have NBA scouts and be a GMS. You know they

1319
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 4: travel everywhere. But back then, the Hoop Summit, you know,

1320
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: Derk and mine was the first ones you know where

1321
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 4: you do. I think scouts saw European players I can

1322
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 4: play in the NBA. And then after that, you know,

1323
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 4: everybody came. Yeah exploded there so was your thoughts.

1324
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: So when Manueles knocked the bad out the earth, then

1325
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: the mask, then the mask, I tell what he was doing.

1326
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell you're going.

1327
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 3: To touch that back? Because you know after that he

1328
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: regretted it because he had to do.

1329
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: It thousand tests for like three weeks, like it was

1330
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: crazy and manual.

1331
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: I remember you were saying like I will never do

1332
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: it again, like it.

1333
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 4: Was crazy afterwards, but mine will always do like crazy

1334
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: stuff like this, you know, like he's funny.

1335
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: So you know, everything either come to an end or

1336
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: you have to leave. How how did you feel and

1337
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: how hurt you was that you had to move on

1338
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: and go to another team at the end of your

1339
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 2: Spurs career.

1340
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: That was hard that was hard because I wanted to

1341
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 4: finish as a Spur and I wanted to finish my

1342
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 4: career in centur so so that was really hard.

1343
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 3: That was really hard.

1344
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 4: But at the same time, no hard feelings obviously with

1345
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 4: Pop and the organization because they don't want to give

1346
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: me a chance when I was nineteen years old, you know.

1347
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: So there's no way that I'll be mad at them never,

1348
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: you know.

1349
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: And at the same time, I was going into a

1350
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: situation where I went to play for my idol. So

1351
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: that's how I became friend with Michael and spend more

1352
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 4: time with MJ. And so that was a great experience

1353
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 4: even for me to prepare for my after career and

1354
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: prepare business because now I own a team, you know,

1355
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 4: in the uro League, and so everything that I learned

1356
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: with MJ, it helped me for my new career now

1357
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 4: in the business world.

1358
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 5: So when you got there, you you were taking meetings

1359
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 5: and trying to like Pick's brain on that type of

1360
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: stuff and trying to get like different type of.

1361
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yes, that's what I did.

1362
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 4: I was preparing, you know, my new career and uh,

1363
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: and that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to

1364
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 4: own a basketball team. I wanted to build my academy

1365
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: and that's what I did. You know, I bought Asville

1366
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 4: Leon the city the name of the city is Leon

1367
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 4: in France, and then I built the academy and we've

1368
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 4: been very successful, you know with my team, you know,

1369
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: we won four championships in France.

1370
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: We're doing very well in the year league.

1371
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: And with my academy, we did back to back first

1372
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 4: round picker on the draft, you know, with Victor and

1373
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 4: Zach they all played in Nasville.

1374
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1375
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: Right, when I see a picture of you, the Charlotte Hornet,

1376
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: Jersey only looked like his photoshop.

1377
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 5: That's just that's like the play players in Jerseys we

1378
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 5: forgot about. That's what that is right there, you know,

1379
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 5: like that's like in Jersey. It's like, wait, when did

1380
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 5: that happened? Like you don't want to remember that?

1381
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take that. So speaking of Winby, uh,

1382
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: he's definitely one of my favorite players right now. I

1383
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: hope he makes the All Star team.

1384
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1385
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm so happy Cep chose to go over there with him.

1386
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 2: Tell us just you know, you're seeing him from a

1387
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: kid to now and just how he's carrying hisself, how

1388
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: he's being a total professional and just how he's playing.

1389
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of him, you know, seeing him as

1390
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 4: a kid and going through you know as well, you know,

1391
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 4: my team, we want a championship together, you know, in

1392
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: France with Asvel to see him like it was destiny

1393
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 4: to go to San Antonio and the Spurs and the

1394
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: way he carry himself. He's just unbelievable. And his rookie

1395
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 4: season was unbelievable. His second year has been amazing so far,

1396
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: and I think he should be an All Star and

1397
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 4: I think in two years, yeah, I think he's gonna

1398
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 4: be the best player in the NBA. And I think

1399
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 4: were very lucky and we should appreciate that, you know,

1400
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 4: in San Antonio, like after David Robinson, Tim Duncan and

1401
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: now Victor, that is crazy, the tradition of big men's

1402
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 4: you know, with the Spurs, and I hope he's going

1403
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 4: to bring us a lot of championships. You know, we've

1404
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: been losing the last five six seasons from since the

1405
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: Big three left, and so I hope, I hope he

1406
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: can bring back the Spurs, you know, winning in the

1407
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: winning ways and try to contend for championships.

1408
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: Back in the day playing a great series, a seven

1409
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: game series against CP. Would you ever thought you will

1410
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: see Chris Paul in a San Antonio Spurs jersey?

1411
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1412
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: No, hell no, no no. I was so surprised.

1413
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 4: And we have the same agent, you know, with CP,

1414
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: and I'm very good friend with CP through the years.

1415
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 4: You know, we always stand in contact. My parents his

1416
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 4: parents did get along very well, like we always stand

1417
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: in contact. And when he told me he was going

1418
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 4: to sign with the Spurs before it was announced official,

1419
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: like no wayam like what?

1420
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: But then I was like, man, it's going to be

1421
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: great for Victor.

1422
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 4: He's gonna have one of the best regards ever, Like

1423
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 4: he's going to learn so much for him because Chris

1424
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 4: is like a coach, you know, and and he's at

1425
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 4: the end of his career so he wants to teach

1426
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff.

1427
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 3: So it's a blessing to to have him with us

1428
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: and having an organization.

1429
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great decision by CP man,

1430
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: and it's looking very well.

1431
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1432
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: You can just feel the knowledge that he's just putting

1433
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: on that team and putting on them young guys. Castle

1434
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: winby all the rest of the guys. Man shout out

1435
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: to see is.

1436
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: Going to be good.

1437
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 5: He is special man's young boys special two way too

1438
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 5: both he defended in but like, hey, I know you

1439
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 5: even noticed his little hesitation out of the Euro He

1440
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 5: got a little ism to his Euro step he do.

1441
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 5: He palls at the end, people be jumping, then he

1442
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: go lay it up.

1443
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's going to be good. Q He's gonna be

1444
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 3: really good.

1445
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely know beside the CP man, like

1446
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: I say, when you put others career above your career,

1447
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 2: because he could have chased and went and Big three

1448
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: or Big four anywhere he really wanted to go. For

1449
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: him to choose to rock with them young guys, that's

1450
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: that's love right there.

1451
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 4: No, I agree, it's a lot of love and uh

1452
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 4: and uh. I think it's going to help her, you

1453
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 4: know for after, you know, if he wants to be

1454
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 4: a coach or something like that.

1455
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 3: You know, CPA is one of the best.

1456
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you could do that real well.

1457
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: The way friends played this summer, how proud are you?

1458
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: How proud are you of the team and the way

1459
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: they played in the Olympics this summer and represented France.

1460
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 4: Man de mouse, I was so happy because I feel

1461
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 4: like I'm the pioneer, you know, of French basketball and

1462
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,520
Speaker 4: try to bring it to to to the highest level.

1463
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: And when I see the new generation, you.

1464
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: Know, with the with Victor and and all the players

1465
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 4: who wasn't that team, I think think we can be

1466
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: very proud as French people the way we did the Olympics,

1467
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 4: because I think it was one of the best Olympics ever.

1468
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: And to have the opportunity to play the US, who

1469
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 4: was the best team in the world, to play them

1470
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 4: in the finals, man, it was unbelievable. And I was

1471
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,480
Speaker 4: front row, I was watching the game. The game was amazing.

1472
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,440
Speaker 4: It was unbelievable.

1473
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steph Curry got hot with the four. I was

1474
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 3: nice to watch.

1475
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 4: But for Victor and for France, it was already nice,

1476
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 4: you know, to play in the finals again, a civil medal,

1477
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 4: and I think it's the first step because I think

1478
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: we're going to keep competing against the US, you know,

1479
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,440
Speaker 4: because we have like ten plus French guys in NBA.

1480
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 4: And I think in twenty twenty eight, man, I hope

1481
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 4: you say is ready because.

1482
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, how special was coming back and getting that jersey

1483
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 5: we put up in the rafters in San Antonio. How

1484
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 5: special is that oufter, you know, after everything, all the

1485
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 5: memories and everything, you get that that that moment with

1486
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 5: and everybody.

1487
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 4: That was pretty cool because you know, San Antonio is

1488
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 4: really home for me, and so to to to share

1489
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: that experience because the Hall of Fame, you know, you

1490
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 4: so far from San Antonio and your team, you know

1491
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. So that's the that's their hall

1492
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 4: of fame for them, you know, to to have the

1493
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 4: jersey and the jersey go up. And it's funny because

1494
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 4: every time I had shooter rounds our every arena, I

1495
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: would always look up, you know who jersey was retired.

1496
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: I love the history, you.

1497
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 4: Know, the game, you know, and just to be part

1498
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 4: of that history now, especially that franchise because the Spurs

1499
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 4: you only have the best of the best of their

1500
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 4: It's only ten jerseys retiring seventy five years.

1501
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 3: It's very selective. It's pretty cool.

1502
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: For a guy like you.

1503
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 2: You want championship, may all Star teams been high in

1504
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: the MVP vote. When you have a career like that.

1505
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 2: The final chapter of the book is Hall of Fame.

1506
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: When you when you got when you got the phone

1507
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 2: called to tell that you you're finn to be elected

1508
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 2: to be a Hall of Fame.

1509
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: Tell us that process and how they went.

1510
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 4: Man, I had the goose bumps. I had goose bumps

1511
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 4: when I got the call and you hear the voice

1512
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: and he's like, man, you made the first ballot two

1513
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 4: thousand and three, you know, Hall of Fame.

1514
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow.

1515
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 4: I never thought a kid like me from where I

1516
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 4: started in France can have something like this or experience

1517
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: something like this.

1518
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1519
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 4: I never thought something like that can be possible for

1520
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: a kid like me. And so it was just an

1521
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 4: unbelievable feeling, like the whole process. And to do it

1522
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: with coach Pop, to do it with Becky who I'm

1523
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 4: very very closely like my big sister pow Gasol. That

1524
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 4: was my teammate and we battle all those years with

1525
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 4: friends in Spain.

1526
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: With Dirk.

1527
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 4: I went to Dirk's Jersey retirement, you know, a pretty

1528
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: good friend with her too.

1529
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 3: And then d Wade. Loved d Wade.

1530
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 4: Was like one of my favorite players to watch. I'm like,

1531
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to a class that that's a hell of

1532
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 4: a class.

1533
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: You know.

1534
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 6: We was in the building for that, We was that experience.

1535
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 5: We was were the ways. Yes, so we got to

1536
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: see you up in there, solace, salute you.

1537
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,560
Speaker 4: Know how thank you. No, it was it was unbelievable,

1538
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 4: unbelievable feeling. And that's something that it will stay, you know,

1539
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 4: stay forever and uh And that's what I would explain

1540
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 4: you know, my kids. You know, if you work hard

1541
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 4: and you have that work ethic and you discipline, you

1542
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 4: can make the impossible happen.

1543
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 5: Tell me, it's like you there in San Antonio right now,

1544
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: you there visiting with the team in the organization, you

1545
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 5: gonna see Pop talk about his legacy and how great

1546
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: he's been in the level of consistency, in the standard

1547
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 5: that he's set and held in place for this long

1548
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 5: and because you talked about the you know, the duration,

1549
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 5: how hard it is to do something for a long time,

1550
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 5: and like he's the epitome of that.

1551
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

1552
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 5: Talk about his legacy and what he means to that organization,

1553
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 5: and you know that all of you guys that came

1554
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 5: up under him.

1555
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 4: The first word that comes in my mind is rare.

1556
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 4: It's very rare to do what he did, especially in

1557
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 4: the business that competitive and where people are not very patient.

1558
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: You know, they'll give a chance, like you saw Mike Brown.

1559
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 4: You know, it was best coach from the NBA and

1560
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 4: this year it was fired. You know, like it's a

1561
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 4: very very tough business, you know, and not very patient

1562
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 4: like teams. You know, you have two years and then

1563
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: you get traded, remember Q, Like you had a good

1564
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: team with Phoenix, but they traded. Like it's crazy, Like

1565
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 4: you get traded and you're like, man, we just started

1566
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 4: to jail. You know, like we're in a tough, tough business.

1567
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 4: So to put it in perspective, like what Pop has

1568
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 4: done is so rare that I'm not.

1569
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 3: Even sure that that will happen again.

1570
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 4: To be with the same franchise for thirty years, five championships,

1571
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 4: twenty or twenty one, fifty plus win seasons, like it's crazy.

1572
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 4: The run is just crazy. And so it just shows

1573
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 4: that he's in the conversation of of the one of

1574
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 4: the best coach ever in the NBA. You know, if

1575
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 4: you think like Red our Back or Phil Jackson, pat Riley,

1576
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, Pop has to be up there.

1577
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, for sure, you definitely got to mention him

1578
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 6: with that, Q.

1579
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: Ask him, you know, the King ought the question. Tell

1580
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: me this.

1581
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 5: So you all the different awards, everything you've you've had

1582
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 5: your jersey retire, you in the Hall of Fame. What

1583
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 5: was it like when you found out you about to

1584
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: be a damn knight? You are served on the park,

1585
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 5: you are a knight in real life? Like tell me,

1586
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 5: Like you talk about our THEMP process we sort of

1587
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 5: familiar with. Yeah, we didn't sing or heard about like

1588
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 5: how in the hell you become a knight A real

1589
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 5: night everybody. I'm not talking about some some playful just

1590
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 5: for real, for real?

1591
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: Do they give you like and the sword? You know

1592
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: you gotta bow down the.

1593
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: Story? No, that that's pretty special too.

1594
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 2: You know.

1595
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: When I got the call from the President, basically it.

1596
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: Was the way I represented France you know in the US,

1597
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 4: and so that's how I got it, you know, and

1598
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 4: I was like wow, like that, that's that's another level,

1599
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: you know, because you talk about that's a country, you know,

1600
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 4: and how you're going to represent them as a citizen,

1601
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 4: you know, and how you inspire a whole.

1602
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 3: Generation of French people.

1603
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 4: And so when I got the president, it's funny, like

1604
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 4: I had like goosebumps, you know, because I was like, man,

1605
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 4: that's crazy. So then I went to the White House,

1606
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 4: you know, not the White House, but the White House

1607
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 4: for France, you know, it's called Lize.

1608
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: And at first I was like, oh, I was acting

1609
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 3: all cool, you know. I was like, it's okay, you know,

1610
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: it's just a man.

1611
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 4: When the president came in and it became like serious,

1612
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: you know, like an official thing. Man, I was like

1613
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 4: not joking, you know, I was like really like at

1614
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 4: goose bumps, and I was like, wow, that's another level.

1615
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, cause it's like, you know, think about it, even

1616
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 5: if you want to shoot for them, start like people say,

1617
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 5: who I want to make the Hall of Fame? I

1618
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 5: want to get my joy retacked? Who the hell tell

1619
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 5: you I want to get someday? Like you can't even

1620
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 5: fathom that, bro, Like that's what I'm saying, Like, that's crazy.

1621
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: That things comes like it just tells you Q that

1622
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: you imagine with basketball everything that the doors that open,

1623
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 4: you know, it's just sport that you love and it

1624
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: opens so many doors.

1625
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: Like because of basketball, I was able to do so

1626
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: much stuff in my life. Were just blessed man, just blessed.

1627
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: Super super. What do you think about the league now?

1628
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: When you came in the league, it wasn't a crazy

1629
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: amount of international players now it's a whole lot of

1630
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: international players.

1631
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: And not only are they in this league, they're.

1632
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: MVPs, they're top five, and in the league they're they're

1633
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,799
Speaker 2: all NBA's up and down the board.

1634
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: Just tell us about how you seeing it when you

1635
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: came in too.

1636
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: Now where how the league is changed and broadened worldwide.

1637
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: You know a lot of these guys that see seen

1638
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: you from overseas and so forth on, they had dreams

1639
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: to be, you know, here with here like you was,

1640
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 2: and to make a career out of the NBA.

1641
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: No, I think I think it's amazing. You know, that

1642
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 4: was David Sterner vision. You know, when he opened the

1643
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 4: NBA players you know, to go play in the Olympics.

1644
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 4: That was the vision, you know, to to make it worldwide.

1645
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 4: And I was one of the first products of that.

1646
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 4: You know, I watched the Dream Team playing Barcelona, Paul Gasol,

1647
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 4: Dirk Noviitsky, we all watch those Olympics, you know, and

1648
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: then we inspire the next generation, you know, with Giannis

1649
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 4: and Luca and Wemby, and they're going to inspire another

1650
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 4: generation of players. And so now that's what he wanted.

1651
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 4: He wanted the worldwide league with players coming from everywhere,

1652
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 4: and that's what happened. And I think it's great. I

1653
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: think it's great for the game and makes the international

1654
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 4: competition even more interesting now because you got players, a

1655
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 4: lot of players from the NBA playing those competition and

1656
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 4: I just think it makes the game even better.

1657
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 5: It's crazy because DEEE Miles, like he said, he played

1658
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 5: against you and the hoop summing, the Nike hoop summing

1659
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 5: thing when y'all were coming out. I played against Dirk

1660
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 5: and you know, that was the game that the one

1661
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 5: he was out there looking like Gole from from Street

1662
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 5: Fighting with the box cut. That's when he came out.

1663
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 5: After that game he went to the league. He was like, man,

1664
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 5: who is this dude? They was called him dunk and

1665
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 5: Dutchman and all this. But like that's when he was

1666
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 5: like way faster and a little bit more athletic than

1667
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 5: when he got to the league. But like that game

1668
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 5: is like a springboard for a lot of the international guys.

1669
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,560
Speaker 5: When they get in that game, they get seen for

1670
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 5: the for the first time and get on that map.

1671
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: In this new era of players, you know a lot

1672
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 2: of guys are doing other things outside of basketball. One

1673
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: of the things that they're doing is rapping. Uh, you

1674
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: have a number one REP song on the French Shore.

1675
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: What was your rep name?

1676
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: Like, I didn't have a rap name. It was Tony Parker.

1677
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 4: Actually, actually, if if I did have one, it was

1678
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: Tony p you know, Tony that was basically that was

1679
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 4: basically my name. And that was just part of like,

1680
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 4: you know, when you're young, you know, you want to

1681
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 4: try stuff and and you have so much pressure with

1682
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 4: basketball that I just wanted to do something else, you know,

1683
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 4: just to get my mind off of basketball sometimes and music.

1684
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: You know how music in basketball and entertainment world and

1685
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 4: basketball is so close. You know, all the basketball players

1686
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 4: they want to do music and vice versa. You know,

1687
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 4: the music guys they want to play basketball. And for me,

1688
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 4: it was just a great experience, you know, to have

1689
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 4: an opportunity to do a song you know with're fabulous

1690
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 4: and Jamie Foxx you know at the time, and all

1691
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 4: the best French rappers. It was just a way for

1692
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 4: me to express myself, you know.

1693
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 6: And it was just a song with Jamie.

1694
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did. I did a whole album, you know,

1695
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: and and the videos and all that kind of stuff.

1696
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, I tell it to out other interests in everything?

1697
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 5: How did you get to the point to where you

1698
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 5: got enough statues of different action figures and the marvels,

1699
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 5: the Marvel guy, Like, how did you get like, okay,

1700
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 5: like the let's use like the Lopez Twins, for example,

1701
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 5: they get like they live out here and this they

1702
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 5: big Disney fans. They get like little old stuff from

1703
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 5: Disney and they might put in their house, around their

1704
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 5: yard somewhere. How did you get to the point to

1705
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 5: where the museum is coming to you to do a

1706
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 5: whole exhibit with everything that you got going on?

1707
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1708
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 5: How did you come to accumulate that many statues and

1709
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 5: that that type of stuff to where it's like you've

1710
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 5: held the whole exhibits of just your stuff?

1711
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 6: How did that?

1712
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: It started because you know, my friends, my brothers, they

1713
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 4: never knew what to buy me for my birthday, and

1714
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 4: so they knew I was a big movie fan. I

1715
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: love to watch movies and Marvel obviously I'm a big

1716
01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 4: fan of Marbles. So that's how it started. You know,

1717
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 4: they bought me a small statue. It was spider Man.

1718
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: Spider Man was the first one, and then they bought

1719
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 4: me Batman, and then and then I was like, okay,

1720
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 4: I don't collect anything. But I was like, you know,

1721
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: I was having like five six statues. And then I

1722
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 4: was like, okay, I'll buy him. I'll buy him.

1723
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 3: And I started to do a whole collection in my gym.

1724
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 4: And one day I was playing a poker game, you know,

1725
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: with Timmy and the League, and we were playing and Becky,

1726
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 4: we were playing and we invited a guy who knows

1727
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 4: very well the Museum of San Antonio, and he was like, man, Tony,

1728
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 4: your collection is amazing.

1729
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 3: Did all of this, you know?

1730
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, working with different you know, companies,

1731
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: you know, and I have connections in the movie world,

1732
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 4: you know. So I got like crazy statues and so

1733
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 4: he was like, I think they will love to show

1734
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 4: to show off yoo, your collection. And so one day

1735
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 4: the museum people of San Antonio, they came. It's like, Tony,

1736
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 4: we love it. We'll take your whole collection. And they

1737
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 4: did an exhibit for five months and it was one

1738
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 4: of the best exhibiting the history of the museum.

1739
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's dope. I have a start bench trade.

1740
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: You have to start one bench, one trade. One Jason Kidd,

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01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: Stephani and Marberry, Steve Nash, Who do you start?

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01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Who do you trade?

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 3: Killing me? I start with ja kid and the benches

1744
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: that Steve Nash.

1745
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: And okay, okay, uh one more, Okay, he's all in

1746
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: the prime. Steph Curry, Derrick Rose, Uh cp O.

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01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.

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01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: Who do you start? Who do you bench? Who do

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01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: you trade?

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 4: Let's start, Steph create Uh, Chris Paul at the bench

1751
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 4: and I cut de ros. But it's that's a tough

1752
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 4: one because you said all on.

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01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: This crazy, that's crazy.

1754
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: Tough one. That's a tough one.

1755
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: Hey tell me that.

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01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 6: This is what I like to ask.

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 5: Man. You know, we all come from humble beginnings. But

1758
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 5: you made your fair share of wages here and there.

1759
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 5: You know, yes, So when you felt comfortable, I like

1760
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 5: to know, what what did TP go do? Did you

1761
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 5: look back now like you spent the bag on? You

1762
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 5: dropped the bag on somewhere you looking back like that

1763
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 5: was crazy? But like in that moment it was everything

1764
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 5: for you.

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01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 4: I never I never went really crazy uh with the

1766
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: with the money because I came from nothing and my

1767
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 4: main thing when I made it, I wanted to help

1768
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 4: my family. So I bought my mom a house, like

1769
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 4: typical stuff that most of the guys we do.

1770
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 5: You know.

1771
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 3: I bought a house for my mom. I took care

1772
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: of my dad.

1773
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: I gave money to to my brothers to help them,

1774
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 4: you know, with college and all that kind of stuff.

1775
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 4: I never really went crazy. The the first time I

1776
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: said I went crazy is I always was very careful

1777
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 4: about how coachaboll see what I do, you know. And

1778
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 4: so the biggest thing I wanted to buy when I

1779
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 4: was young, I wanted to buy a Lamborghini, you know.

1780
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,879
Speaker 3: And I told myself.

1781
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 4: I arrived in the league in oh one, and I

1782
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 4: told myself, I was like, I'm gonna wait down in

1783
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 4: an All Star because you need to be an All

1784
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 4: Star to have a Lamborghini.

1785
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 3: That's what I had in my head. I was like, Okay,

1786
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: can be a backup and come with a Lamborghini.

1787
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: So and you need to talk to me, young fellas

1788
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: run around now.

1789
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: Because I felt like I felt like, you know, you

1790
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 4: have to earn it, you know what I mean, Like

1791
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 4: like if you're gonna drive a Lamborghini, you know you're

1792
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 4: going to be like okay.

1793
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: And so that's what that's what I did. You know,

1794
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 3: when I made the All Star Team.

1795
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I don't want pup to think

1796
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: that I have the big head, so I'm gonna wait

1797
01:24:57,320 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 4: that I confirmed the All Stars. So I made my

1798
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 4: second old story and that's when I went crazy and

1799
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 4: I boiled in Borghinia.

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01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 6: I don't know why.

1801
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 5: I felt like you might have had an aston Martin Vanquish.

1802
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 5: At one point you looked like you the size and

1803
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 5: all that James bond car.

1804
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 3: I margin that was more than Brighinia.

1805
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you had a lot of teammates, and I

1806
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 1: know you know y'all the Big three, but you, Manu

1807
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: and Tim.

1808
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: If you had to add two more teammates to make

1809
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: that ultimate five, who would be that ultimate five that

1810
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: you played.

1811
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: With David Robinson and Kawhi Leonard.

1812
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: Mmm, I like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah,

1813
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: I like that. You can't go against that.

1814
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 6: That's gonna be nice.

1815
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 1: At your house. You builded a cliff over your pool, yes, Man,

1816
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 1: Man had Mount Evers. I said, I only need to

1817
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 1: invite us over Man so we can jump in the pool.

1818
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 3: But the next time, you know what, next time we

1819
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: do the podcast, next time you're gonna have to come

1820
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 3: and when we jump from the pool, we jump in

1821
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 3: the pool. We'll make it happen.

1822
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 4: But that was always one of my dream Like when

1823
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 4: I decided, you know, I signed my big deal with

1824
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 4: San Antonio and I built my house.

1825
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 3: Like I love being in the water.

1826
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, we didn't have much and

1827
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 4: every time my mom brought me to the beach and

1828
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 4: I swim in the water and that was the best

1829
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,719
Speaker 4: thing ever because we couldn't afford going to ski resorts

1830
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 4: or vacation and blah blah blah. So our vacation is

1831
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: my mom bringing us to the beach and swim in

1832
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 4: the water, take the waves, you know, and anywhere we

1833
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 4: can go where we can swim, you know, that'd be

1834
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: my favorite. You know.

1835
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 3: She will bring us to different places where you can jump,

1836
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, from cliffs and stuff like that.

1837
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 4: And it just reminds me of when I was young,

1838
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 4: and it keeps me grinded, you know, it keeps me

1839
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 4: like good. And I don't know, it was symbolic, you know,

1840
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 4: to have that cliff at the house. It reminds me

1841
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 4: when I was a kid.

1842
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: How high is the cliff?

1843
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 3: It's thirty eight feet, it's hard.

1844
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 6: Or something like one of these just like, yeah, it's official.

1845
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 6: This ain't no games.

1846
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: I see it.

1847
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 3: I was like, it's like.

1848
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: One of these things I love about basketball, Like Q

1849
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: was just saying with the Hoop Something, man, I got

1850
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: a chance to see you play in the Hoop Something

1851
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: and play against you after that. You know, we always

1852
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: follow guys for their career and watch them for their

1853
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: whole career. It was unin pleasure to watch and play

1854
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 2: against you and see you do your thing, man, So

1855
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: congratulations on all your endeavors and keep it going man

1856
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: and doing your thing.

1857
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: Yah.

1858
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,759
Speaker 5: Man, we appreciate you, Sir Tony Parker. Ladies and gentlemen.

1859
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 5: My first night on the Knucklehead we got a knight

1860
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 5: on here, y'all, whole damn night, Sir Tony Parker.

1861
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 6: We appreciate you, my man.

1862
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. Thanks all right.

1863
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,400
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1864
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:12,640
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1865
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:14,080
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1866
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1867
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1869
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