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Speaker 1: I just moved into a new apartment up here at Frisco.

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Speaker 1: So I am in one of the bedrooms with no

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Speaker 1: They can't see me, but they we can all hear

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Speaker 1: each other. So we're gonna this is our first run

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Speaker 1: Can y'all hear me loud and clear? I can hear you, Shannon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm in my fun room, bro? All right? Where is Nate?

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in my fun room, baby. I'm always let

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Speaker 1: to Jesse always, sir. Well, then we'll start with Kurt. Kurt,

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Speaker 1: and how you doing? Brother? I'm doing all right? I

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Speaker 1: If I don't get him interrupted, it'll be a miracle.

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Speaker 1: Good Jesse, how are you doing, man? Where are you

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Speaker 1: broadcasting from? What's stop, my fellows? I'm broadcasting from my

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Speaker 1: it to Derek, Derek Eagleton and Shannon Gross in a

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Speaker 1: finally got his big fat, greasy guy he's been walking.

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Speaker 1: So I want to start with you, Nate. This is

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Speaker 1: So what you're saying on the airwaves, So what you're saying, Shan,

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Speaker 1: work for your food, aren't you? What's what's her name? Megan? Right, Megan?

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Speaker 1: It's her name? Yes, the lady that came, Yes, Megan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I don't sound creepy at all. No. Will. We'll

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Speaker 1: at eleven o'clock on Monday. We should be yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Nate think it is a terrible idea. Letting Byron

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Speaker 1: was the glue. He was the guy they all looked

424
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 1: to and whatever Travis kind of said's kind of what

425
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line did. So it'll be it'll be interesting

426
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: to see who steps up and fills that role and

427
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: is kind of a leader of those guys. And I

428
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, well, I think that the position

429
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: look like now, is it Joe Looney's job, the young guy,

430
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: the young mcgoverning, the young mcgoverning third round pick. He'll

431
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: get a more serious look there because I think with

432
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: a new coach and Jesse, I want you to jump

433
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: on this at the end with a new coach. You

434
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: don't know what he's thinking. I'm quite sure that's a

435
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: blow to them, but I think they're ready to make

436
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: that move. They don't know these guys the way that

437
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: we do all the last coaching style. So a lot

438
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: of guys that get opportunities who didn't think they would

439
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: if they if they are ready when the when the

440
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: turn comes, Yeah, they don't have to put somebody in there.

441
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: They may start with a looney, but this kid, uh

442
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: McGovern does what he need to do, you know, and

443
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: show that he's ample. He may fit in. And like

444
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: I was trying to tell some guys the other day

445
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: yesterday when this happened, is you don't know really what

446
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: schemes these coaches gonna run. Because a couple of years ago,

447
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: our guards, centers and tackles was running all over the place.

448
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: Three years ago, screens, traps, pull that went away. This

449
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: fast year, a lot of that went away, you know,

450
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: the way we ran the offense. So we don't know

451
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: what these coaches got in store and what players will

452
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: really fit a fars offensive lineman into the scheme or

453
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: what coach McCarthy and U the offensive coordinator wants to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

454
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean like you think, you know what the brotherhood

455
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: you think? Man, come on, you know brotherhood. Let me

456
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: know that you're going. I can go in there and

457
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: have a little bit more safe so in this contract

458
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: for at least a long term deal. So yeah, I mean,

459
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: if I'm Joel Looney and I don't I'm just I'm speculating,

460
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if I'm Joel Looney, I'm a

461
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm a little bit hot that Travis. Not

462
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: that he retired. Dude, you gotta do my brother, but hey,

463
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: just pick up the phone and say, hey, listen, I'm

464
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: thinking about walking away. So if you're gonna go ahead

465
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: and get a new deal, going hand and get a

466
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: new deal. So that's just my my thought process on

467
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the table. Yeah, you know, I tell us here, man.

468
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: You know, he probably one of those guys had thought

469
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 1: about it but didn't know until it hit him. You know,

470
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 1: he probably thought about it, thought about it and just

471
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: didn't know until he hit it. And then I promise you,

472
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: when he when it hit him, he probably wanted to

473
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: call this guys manh Yeah, but you know, Looney, you know,

474
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: let me tell you something jests. It ain't too late

475
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: for Looney. It ain't too many good officers in line,

476
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: but out there it ain't too late for Looney. What

477
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: you guys? Were you guys surprised by Jeff Heath leaving?

478
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: I think that one caught me off guard a little bit, Nah,

479
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: because uh he My question is being and y'all guys

480
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: have heard me say this towards the end of the season.

481
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: Is it truly the players? Now? Some guys are who

482
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: they are, We know who they are. Is it truly

483
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: the guys? How much is the technique? A lack of

484
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: scheming fits into this? Jessef said a lot of times

485
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: when I show that man, the coaching need to be better.

486
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: And let's just see how some of these guys fair.

487
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: It's a lot of guys that have loved here and

488
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: went into other schemes and have been very, very successful.

489
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: Let's just see if he's one of those one of

490
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: these guys or was he just that guy that I

491
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: always thought was a was a very good third safety.

492
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: If somebody typing, somebody typing emails, what are you doing?

493
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I see why his phone blowing up? He got like

494
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: eight devices going okay, we could we we can hear you,

495
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: but I don't think the public can hear you. So

496
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: we'll just keep going with the departure of Jeff he Jesse.

497
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: What kind of player can we expect out of Haha?

498
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: I know, uh, he's been in the league a little while.

499
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: He was a pretty impactful player early in his career.

500
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I can't say I've watched him a whole lot for

501
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. But what do you think

502
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: we're getting with that timing? I think you get a

503
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: little bit of a miss bag with Hawha. You get

504
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: a guy who can be a playmaker, but also you

505
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: know he can be a guy who can make business

506
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: decision when it comes to MC tackles, and he's a

507
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: guy who sometimes can gamble. Now, the thing about a gambler,

508
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm okay with the gambler. It's it's when you gamble, right,

509
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't need you gambling him when the games on

510
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: the line, like you have to be. There's a difference

511
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: between the being a gambler and being a smart gambler.

512
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: I look at guys like a Sante Samuels right when

513
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: he was playing in his prime, he was a smart gambler.

514
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: He knew when it was time to take his shots

515
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: and in the pick and choose when it was going

516
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: in the time to going gambler. I don't. I don't

517
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: like Genera's jinking type gambler. I don't. I don't like

518
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: that type of a gambler where or a guy like

519
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: that where it costs you big. So for him, he's

520
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: gonna give you. He's gonna give you the athleticism, he's

521
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna give you the ability to make plays in the

522
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: back end. Um, but you have to take the bad

523
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: with the good. With him, he's going to be a gambler.

524
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a guy that may not always come

525
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: up and and be a sure fire tackler. Uh. He

526
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: may not be a guy who's always going to be

527
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: in the right place. That's what history says about him. Um. Now,

528
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: he may come here and things may change when he

529
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: gets with Mike Nolan and he may get more under

530
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: control whatever. But with him, you're gonna have to take

531
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: the good with the bad. He's gonna make some plays,

532
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: but there's gonna some point in time in the game

533
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: where you're gonna be scratching your head like ha ha,

534
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: what are you doing? So I think I think if

535
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: we can get more of the good haha then the

536
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: bad high, then I'm okay with that. You know, I

537
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: agree with Jess man. But you know, we've been screaming

538
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: for playmakers. Man, but can we get this dude under control,

539
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, and uh and make sure he's doing it

540
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: in the right being, in the right place and line

541
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: it up well. You know, he had a lot of

542
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: interceptions there early in his career with Green Bay, you know,

543
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: not so much the last few years. And he had

544
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: he did. He had a nice year I think with

545
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: Chicago last year. But I wish jess everything that I've read.

546
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: You know, I saw him a lot at Bama and

547
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: he played well at Bama because the head coach didn't

548
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: play well, Coach McCarthy and his guys, Coach Nolan, his

549
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: guys opened the door like, hey man, we understand you

550
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: like the gamble, we know you, but hey play the

551
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: defense first, right. Is he an upgrade from from jeffe

552
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: or we're getting kind of the same guy just in

553
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: a different No. I think he's an upgrade. I do.

554
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I definitely do think he's he's an upgrade from from

555
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. You're you're going to see more playmaking ability

556
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: from the back end. You're going to see a guy

557
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: who's able to cover a little bit better than Jeff

558
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Heath in the back end. Um, Jeff East was, he

559
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: was he was a steady eddie, right. He wasn't going up,

560
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to kill you, but he wasn't going

561
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: to really help you a lot of times, and sometimes

562
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: he was out of position himself as well. I think

563
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: this is definitely an upgrade from Jeff Heath. We just again,

564
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: it's all about him making the right decision at the

565
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: right time on when he's going to go gamble, when

566
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: he's not going to go gamble. Um. But if if

567
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: we can get him to play somewhat according to the

568
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: game plan and not have him do his own thing,

569
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: you're going to get a really good player who's gonna

570
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: give you three to four to five. And this episode

571
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: of the season, and not to me, will be a

572
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: major upgrade to what we've had the last couple of years.

573
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: The safety that if he does with Jesse's talking about

574
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: that to help us win two games. That helped us

575
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: win two games that to give our OBErs the ball back.

576
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm back up. I got to ask two games.

577
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, that won us two games. I'm serious because

578
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: uh and Jesse, you jump in on interceptions are contagious.

579
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Once one guy started doing it, other guys to start

580
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: doing it, you know. You know, it just seemed like,

581
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: ain't no one guy gonna be able to do it.

582
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna take several guys. And what I'm saying if

583
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: he can get five, let's say, if Xavier Wood and

584
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: hold on to the ball he had four or five

585
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: and dropped, I'm with Jestic's like, when you make these

586
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: picks a lot of times, these picks to help you

587
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: turn around games, and at the same times, when you

588
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: drop these picks, they help you lose games. You know,

589
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: So it ain't gonna be just him. I'm like, when

590
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: you get a playmaker, there a guy that that actually

591
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: goes and get the ball a lot of times to

592
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: get contagious. And I'm I'm banking And I'm not saying

593
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: that the coaches that left here are not smart, but

594
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: they played a simple system and now they got a

595
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: system that maybe a little bit more difficult for quarterbacks

596
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: to read to give these used opportunity that I just

597
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: want to see. That's my biggest thing. This training camp.

598
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I want to go out. I'm gonna try to find

599
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: a way to get out there because I want to

600
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: see if you want a few different schemes. And then

601
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: also I think for for the defensive scheme for the

602
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: opposing offense, it makes the quarterback hesitate just a little bit,

603
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: you know. I just I just can't point the guy

604
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: out and say I'm going I'm going out the Jeff

605
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: heat right, I gotta say, wait a second, and this

606
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: is how high he was. You know, a guy who

607
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: was a Holly Tiler guy coming out of Alabama. He

608
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: played well in this league. So if I get the

609
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: quarterback to flinch a half a second, if I can

610
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: get him to think, just think a bit more about

611
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: taking that shot. This again, this allows those guys who

612
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: are blitzing and tank to get around the edge a

613
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: little bit more. So this all those things come into play.

614
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: When you have a guy back there to day, they

615
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: semi respect, you know, and the more in the seconds

616
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: you begin to have, the more respect you begin to have.

617
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: But I think coming in how has has a level

618
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: of respect from certain quarterbacks. I'm not saying that he is,

619
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, he is the next Rod Woodson or he's

620
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: the next you know whatever. But I'm saying that he

621
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: has a level of respect that quarterbacks have to just

622
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: just for a natal second, just for a moment, think

623
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: can I fit that ball in there? Should I throw

624
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: this ball in there? And that sometimes can be the

625
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: difference maker in a ball. So do you guys feel

626
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: that with his signing and the two defensive tackles of

627
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: the safety and defensive tackle now in good hands with

628
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: in good shape, I'm not gonna go there so quick.

629
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: I just want to see, uh you know, you know

630
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: you can get me once that you'll never get me twice.

631
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: And I don't care if it is a different coach

632
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: of staff. I want to see how the players we

633
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: had and how they and how in the schemes and stuff,

634
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: and so you know, as a season go on and

635
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: as we get into thing. You know, I'm relying Jesse

636
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: a lot because Jesse knows coverages, he knows things, and Jesse,

637
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay on you a lot, bro,

638
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: What does this mean? What does this look like? Because

639
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: if you know, I could tell what we was in,

640
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm not a big coverage guy. You know,

641
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: you see that single high safety and you see the

642
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: guy walking down in the box, moving back and forth.

643
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: You ain't food to nobody with that. I'm sorry you're not.

644
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: And uh but other teams do a little bit more

645
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: than that, you know. They they they corners move around,

646
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: They don't sit there. Now, experienced quarterback and read it

647
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: quicker than I can. I'm just average guy to come

648
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: to that. But Jesse could tell you a lot of times.

649
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard him saying this ball going there,

650
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: this ball going there. And I've listened to the safety

651
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: that works with us there the Cowboys and say the

652
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: same thing. And I'm like, wow, okay, okay, I can

653
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: tell you about some runs, you know, and how to

654
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, scheme up some runs and if for safety

655
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: dropping the box, who the seventh man is? But you know,

656
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: this thing can get complicated if you had to, if

657
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: you had the right guys that can run the scheme

658
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: and understand the scheme. And so if you got guys

659
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: that can understand the scheme and can disguise just a

660
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: little bit, like like Jess said, that nano second, sometimes

661
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: that's all they need for the for that d N

662
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: to get to that quarterback. How to make that quarterback

663
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: her and then Clinton Dick's Xavier or Brown can drop

664
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: that rock and make a play. You brought up Antonio

665
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown where you got a surprised as if they

666
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: resigned him that kind of note that he caught me

667
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: off a little bit. No. No, And the reason I'm

668
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: saying that reason, the reason that I'm saying no, he

669
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: got hurt the way he started the year. He started

670
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: out like whoa man any way in the world, we

671
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: can let Brown go. Then all of a sudden he

672
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: fell off a cliff. Then he got hurt. Did he

673
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: didn't come back and just dominate and take the job?

674
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: You know? So? No? Uh, he signed a one year deal,

675
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: show me and it'll be something better out there for

676
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: you than next year. You know he signed He signed

677
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: a security, a security deal. Here's one thing that this defense,

678
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan and the defense will be doing a lot

679
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: that you need. Um. One of the reasons why a

680
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: guy like a Lumbo was let go because you need

681
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: to speed. You need guys that are gonna be up

682
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: in your face, pressing press coverage and be able to

683
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: have the ability to run down field with receivers. That's

684
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: why a guy like that's why you see a lot

685
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: of those guys who have speed get brought back because

686
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: when you're talking about how they're gonna run defense, they're

687
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: gonna have their corners up in your face. It's gonna

688
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: be some press. And so you're gonna have to be

689
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: able to get out there and get on your giddy

690
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: up and and be able to run with receivers. And

691
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at you look at the

692
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: guys they have now. Now, now, I'm not comfortable with

693
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: the guys they have right now. We had to start

694
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: a game this Sunday, I'm not comfortable with those guys

695
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: being my starting cornerbacks. Um, but uh, indeed we need

696
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: better corners. But right now, I think, look at the

697
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: speed part of the things. They want guys who can

698
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: turn and run with the receivers. But the way they

699
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: play defense, Glad, glad, you say again, I think so,

700
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: I think I think corner will be the priority. Um,

701
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: If not corner, then maybe another defensive lineman, uh somewhere,

702
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: maybe rush in Because now again, if I if I

703
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: have a if I got pressure up front and I

704
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: got guys coming off the edge, but I can be

705
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: kind of almost a little bit selbpar on the outside

706
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: because I'm creating so much pressure, the pockets are collapsing,

707
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: they can't do anything. And I'm getting to the quarterback

708
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: now he doesn't have cleanlands and throw in. He doesn't

709
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: have time. And so where I'm lacking with with experience

710
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: and playmaking ability, I make up for it. Then he

711
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: that quarterback now having enough time to go out there

712
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: and really beat us up down the field. I agree, Nate,

713
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: I'll ask agree. Do you now that you've added, you know,

714
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: two guys in the middle, You've added safety that has

715
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: playmaking potential, um, does your focus in the draft shift

716
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: to corner and an edge rusher or would you be

717
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: okay with if one of these you know, top top

718
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: receivers slides down to seventeen or are you still focusing

719
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: on defense? Nate? In the draft, you have to you

720
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: you have sunk your money. And I was setting some

721
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: guys and they kind of my kind of dropped open.

722
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have declared who they are. They have declared

723
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: we are offensive team, and don't get it. They don't

724
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: get it mixed up. Now Kansas City, they have declared

725
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: their offensive team. The Ravens have declared their defensive team.

726
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: You know, some teams are so dominant and they let

727
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: you know not only who they by, how they play,

728
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: but who they pay. And they are paying our offense.

729
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: They're they're not skimping on another and they're gonna they're

730
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: gonna try to piece together a defense. And so the

731
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: only way they and the only way they can get

732
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: some some some some some cloud on defenses to go

733
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: out and draft some guys. So I think they got

734
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: to go out and get the best available defensive player,

735
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: not not not if it's a corner, not if it's

736
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: a safety. If that guy falls to you perfect and

737
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: he's and he's a d lineman, you gotta get him.

738
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: If he's a corner, you gotta get him. Now, I

739
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: understand that they don't love safeties and all of this

740
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: hen and ain't a value. The best diva is a

741
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: player that falls to you, that can be on that

742
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: field and make an impact. You have to get this

743
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: kid opportunity to play for you. Well, I think I

744
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: think that's what they've done with bringing in those two guys.

745
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: On the inside. You've already sealed up your linebacking core.

746
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: You added another piece to the secondary and Highah. I

747
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: think it lends you more to now picking best available

748
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: and not having to go in with a specific need

749
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: saying you know what, I need to get this or

750
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: I need to get that. I can go on and say, oh,

751
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: if a d N fALS to me, I'll take them. Oh,

752
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: if a linebacker faster, okay, if a quarterback falls, you know,

753
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't if a receiver false to me, I don't

754
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: have to go in with a defined need for something.

755
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: I can go on and say, we've put ourselves in

756
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: a position where we can go in and whoever is there,

757
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: we can take them, we can trade back, we can

758
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: add more picks. It all depends on what's there and

759
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: what you want. When you're able to kind of hit

760
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: big and the agency and then you'll lie yourself to

761
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: go into the draft and not being strapped for one thing.

762
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jesse. I agree with you, Jesse.

763
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Jesse. But it better be defense

764
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: man because unlike Kansas City, unlike Green Baby before last year,

765
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: these teams have proven that we'll go to the playoffs

766
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: with a lack of defense. We'll go into and we'll

767
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: go in and we'll get into the second round. We

768
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: have not proven by having a lack of defense that

769
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: we can go for defense. Give you. No, I'm not no, no, no, no,

770
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna I'm not I'm not gonna

771
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: argue that with you, Jess. I'm with you. I'm not

772
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: gonna argue that. But are we gonna be good enough

773
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: to where we control that ball thirty two minutes with

774
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: touchdowns and not field goals? And see, I'm with you.

775
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: You declare who you are and you win. And the

776
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: reason and the reason I'm open to it is a

777
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: cause of coach McCarthy in his offensive mind. So I'm

778
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: with you. So, but in this draft, you don't have

779
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 1: to go get some horses on defense. That's all I'm saying.

780
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm through arguing about offense. Defense. If you declare yourself

781
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys have, that's who you got to roll with.

782
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: But you got to use all the tools that have

783
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: been and the teed Kurt are you're opposed to If

784
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: one of these wide receivers, one of these top wide

785
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: receivers fast at thirteen grabbing it there, or would you

786
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: trade back and because somebody's gonna want one of these receivers,

787
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: trade back and try to save picks and get it

788
00:40:41,120 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: go all defense. Sooner or later, Fellas. Sooner or later, Fellas,

789
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to have a defensive player or two.

790
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm honest, you gonna you know, even in Kansas City,

791
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, they went to the scrap heat and got

792
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: a collection of guys, you know, and and I hate

793
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: to call another player scrat scrape because that's how folks

794
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: looked at me. But breathing in the secondary. You know,

795
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: he flourished last year for them. A couple other guys

796
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: flourished from him. We didn't think much of Wilson, but

797
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: he flourished from them. We didn't give hitches, we didn't

798
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: even throw off at him. He flourished for them. I'm saying,

799
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: in the right system, you still have to go get

800
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: players that can do can do your scheme and perform.

801
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: And Chris Jones is the glue there. Him and Tyron

802
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: matth Is on the back end, which is a safety.

803
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: And then you got Chris Jones up front, who's a horse.

804
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna have to have one or two players.

805
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I don't care, but I think I think the biggest thing.

806
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: And I fall victen to this because I even forget

807
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: sometimes that I still think we're under the Jason Garrett error,

808
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, snap, he's not here anymore. We're

809
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: under we're under a new regime now. And I think

810
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs and we talk about other teams like that, Well,

811
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: what they've done is they've gone and get players and

812
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: then molded their defense to fit that player's strength. That's

813
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: the part where we've lacked here in Dallas over the

814
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: last ten years. We would go get players that they

815
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: were just trying to defense and try to fit players

816
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: into that defense. And that was a complicated thing, is

817
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: how can I get these guys to fit into this

818
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: How can I put these squares into this circle? And

819
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: it was just kind of force them in and force

820
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: them in and it wasn't working. Instead of them saying, well,

821
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: how can I fit my puzzle to fit this piece?

822
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: And so now you start trying to go and get

823
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: pieces and say, all right, if this guy's out of

824
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: if he's not a man in man corner, then I'm

825
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: not gonna put him in a man in man situation.

826
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him in his own situation. That's where

827
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: he thrives at. And this is got in at an

828
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: outside corner. I'm not gonna play him at an outside corner. Now,

829
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: sometimes you have you know, you're you're you're you're scrambling

830
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: at times in the season and you have to go

831
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: play a guy in a position sometimes. But for the

832
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: most part, those team that you're talking about, the Brelons

833
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: and the Chris Jones and the tying those guys, that

834
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: defense was it was molded and fit to the players

835
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: that they had. It wasn't the other way around. And

836
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: when you go about it in that way, now you're

837
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: able to have more success from those guys because they're

838
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: playing a part of the puzzle. They're not you're you

839
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that they're not being playing out

840
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: of position or out of out of place. They're just

841
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: doing what they're in capable of doing. I lie how

842
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: you talked about how Jimmy Johnson did it back in

843
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: the day. He would say, listen, man, well that's how

844
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick does it. It's saying I'm not gonna have

845
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: this guy playing you know, this position when he can't

846
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah and see. And that's what I was saying earlier

847
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: about is they're gonna is, they're gonna scheme it up.

848
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: It's all about the scheme and going out and getting

849
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: players know like Dontario Poe is a big athletic guy,

850
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: greasy guy, hoggy guy, and I love that. But but

851
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: Jeral mccour is a different type of athlete. They know

852
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: how to play these guys. They have spent their time

853
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: putting pieces together. I hope like this in the back end,

854
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: scheming like this. So I'm with you guys one hundred percent,

855
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna come. That's what I'm saying. We have

856
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: to get to notice coaching staff. That's what we have

857
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: to rely on each other. You know, Like I said, Jests,

858
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be relying on you a lot, saying Okay,

859
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: what does it look like back there? Is it? Does it?

860
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: And I know doing training camp they're gonna try to

861
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: hide stuff. But you when you knew you can't hire much.

862
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: You know, you may not go into preseason showing it,

863
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to show it in training camp.

864
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: What we're talking about is over time, jet Uh, Kurt.

865
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: They you know, over time, you know that some guys

866
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: ain't gonna always be perfectly. That means guys, guys' yeah.

867
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: But the thing is that's what you've seeing him doing

868
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: right now. I think you see the cowboys that already

869
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: know they're letting guys go and they're bringing the other

870
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: guys in because they know they know what they want

871
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: this final picture to look like. You know, Mike Nolan

872
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: and McCarthy have sat down and saying, here's what I need.

873
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm playing this style. I'm looking for this type of

874
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: player to fit. You know what I'm saying. Like, so

875
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: they know what it is that they want to have

876
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: in this system. And then they're gonna get those guys

877
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: and they're saying, Okay, he's really good at this, he's

878
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: really good at that. And then but this is why

879
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: they pay the guys in big bucks, because once you

880
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: bring all these players in, now you have to begin

881
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: to shape and mold this thing so where it fits

882
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: and it's cohesive and is gels the right way. So

883
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: preach Jesse, how do they get it done? That's why

884
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: they pay those guys the big bucks to get it done,

885
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: to figure this thing out, to have a vision of

886
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: what you want and now going to get the little things.

887
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: And they say, hey, Will McClay, I need this, Hey Steve,

888
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: and I need I need this guy to get signed.

889
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: I know what, what do we got, how what we know?

890
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: How much money we have? We're hard to cap. Okay,

891
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: we can't get him. I need someone similar to him. Okay,

892
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I got all the guys that I need. Now, what's

893
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: in the draft that we know we're relatively it is

894
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: supposed to go get Now, they're gonna get those and say, Okay,

895
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: this is Here's what I want people to understand. I

896
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: know that we're dying and we're waiting for a championship

897
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: to happen. That type of stuff probably won't happen in

898
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: year one. You need, especially now we're dealing with this

899
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: Corona situation, and guys can't even be together, like they

900
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: can't even be in the building and with one another.

901
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Coaches can't be around players. Players can't be around coaches.

902
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: Guys can't be together. So this may take a little

903
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: bit more time for its developed. I saying ten years.

904
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if this thing doesn't come out the

905
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: gate looking the way you want to look, give it

906
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: a little time and take a little the time for

907
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: all this to come together, especially what us not having

908
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: or potentially not having the ability to get together like

909
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: we normally would. But OTAs and mini camps and so

910
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: on and so far I understand this right here, the

911
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: Chris Covington's and the Antoine Woods who are free have

912
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: they been signed yet? See, you got to look at

913
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: the guys that yeah, Antoine Woods as he's been signed.

914
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: So look at he's still here. He's still here, He's

915
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: still on the contract. You you look at guys and

916
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: you say to yourself, Uh, they've been tendered offers because

917
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: these coaches are looking at film and like Jess said,

918
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: they know the pieces they want man, And uh, guys,

919
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: are you know I passed by a few guys before

920
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: we had to shout out over that at the Star

921
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth Center, and guys had that bewildered look

922
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Jess in their eyes, like yo man, Yeah, yo man.

923
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: The new new coaching staff. You gotta prove yourself now.

924
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: Inconsistency stops. So, like Jess said at the beginning of

925
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: the year, if this Corona thing eases up and people

926
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: get to do what they need to do, a lot

927
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: of guys, you don't be shocked when you know, like, wow,

928
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: they like that guy. What Jason didn't like that guy.

929
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about coach Garrett And they didn't like that guy,

930
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: but they like this guy. They have a role for

931
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: this guy who like Hey, one man's treasure could be

932
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: another man's trash and vice versus fellows. I got to

933
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: get bread to prepare to get out of here. I

934
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: gotta do something a little bit, a little bit late.

935
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys coming on thirty minutes earlier so

936
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: I can be a part of this. And y'all say

937
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: we'll be back Monday at eleven. Is that cool? Or

938
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: we'll know more as time go on. Shannon, Yeah, I

939
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: think we're gonna try to get back to our normal

940
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: schedule time on Mondays Monday's at eleven o'clock. Will it'll

941
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: be on the website. Check the schedule on the website.

942
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: I think something's going on with Kurt's audio. Nate, you

943
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here, so Jesse, I don't want

944
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: to be stuck with just me and you for the

945
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: next ten minutes. So we're gonna be too sty But

946
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: look at here, man, I'm trying to fight. Hey, hey, y'all,

947
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm trying to fight my wife off. Man.

948
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Y'all be good. I take it all right. We'll see

949
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: you date Kurt. Thanks all right, thanks for getting up

950
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: and working for Thanks. Thanks Matt yep, we'll be back,

951
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: all right. Website to find out what we'll be there.

952
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: Should be Mondays at eleven. If not the time will

953
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: be there. Jesse, good hanging out with you. Can't wait

954
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: to see your sexy face again man in person always

955
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: my brother. Love you y'all be good man, God bless man.

956
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: See you guys next week later all right, bye bye