1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: We've had a real downward push on the China stocks 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: this week, obviously after the wrap up of the Party Congress, 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and it's a little difficult to read. Some of the 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: futures are pointing up, but they're not active contracts. And 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: then we had earnings after the bell that disappointed, and 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: that that's what we'll be focusing on here in the 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: next couple of minutes. Texas Instruments, for instance, declining more 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: than five percent in after hours after the company gave 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: a disappointing quarterly forecast. Joining US now is Ian King 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: Bloomberg new US Semiconductor reporter. So Texas Instruments such an 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: important company, it's a bell weather, it's in so many 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: different areas. I guess this would send a a little 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: bit of disquiet throughout the industry here. Yeah, no, that's 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean, if you're looking at what's happened 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: in the semi extent or in the largely been companies 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: that heavily depend upon PCs and computers and smartphones that 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: have been the ones saying, you know that demand is 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: really falling quickly. As you point to out, t I 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: is way broader than that, you know, big dependence on 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Industrial and they said that, you know, orders are being 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: canceled and the orders are declining, and that has you know, 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: much broader implications. So nothing that different, Or did they 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: say anything different to some of the other companies that 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: or is it that they're going exactly thing kind of verbued? Yeah, 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's a very good question, is I mean, 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: in typical t I fashion, they didn't give an awful 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: lot away and refuse a lot of direct questions, and 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: I you know, I spoke to the CFO afterwards and 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: he said, look, anybody who tells you that this is 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: recession fears or tells you that this is just a 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: steady kind of stickle of the semi conducause where we 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: have what are called these inventory corrections, just doesn't know 33 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: what they're talking about, because it's impossible to know. He 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, he said, if it's just an inventory correction, 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: which is fairly typical, you know, every sort of six 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: or so quarters of upside we get a couple of 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: down quarters because people have ordered too much. Then that's 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: one set of circumstance which is frankly on the milder 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. If you know, you've got a 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: layer on this other element of people, you know, businesses 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: clumping down on their budgets and cutting back on capex 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: and investment. And that's where more studious obviously has you know, 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: much deeper potential harm to what's going to happen to 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: the industry. It seems like one of the areas that 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: actually had some strength was automotive. But you know, that's 46 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: a kind of an interesting situation there because you still 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: have demand that so much stronger than supply, and all 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: the while interest rates are heading up, and you would 49 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: think that at some point even the automotive industry will 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: take a little bit of a hit. Yeah, And that 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: was exactly the conversation that that you know t I 52 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: hide with analysts on the conference caller. You know, they 53 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: were asked again, how, you know, can we keep going 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: up until the right and they said absolutely not, No, 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: that can't be the case. However, there are still shortages, 56 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: there are still things that we can't get to our 57 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: car makers as as quickly as they would like or 58 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 1: or in the quantity that we were like. So that's 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: kind of a good sign. At the same time, they said, look, 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: you have to understand that auto is different. There's never 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: been an expansion in the number of chips a car 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: that we've seen. There's never been an expansion in the 63 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: technology that's going into vehicles that we're seeing right now. 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: So that's you know, naturally kind of distorting things and 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: meaning that that kind of demand is going to be 66 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 1: much more persistent. Okay, so good to talk with you again, 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: I and thanks very much, Ian King. Bloomberg News US 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Semiconductor report looking at Texas instruments here