WEBVTT - EPISODE 13: On all things Ja Morant and so much more ...

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this league, uncut in the world of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hour NBA news, Just do you lose Chris Hanes,

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<v Speaker 1>It's time, Mark Stein, It's show time. Shakalaka Chris Hanes

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<v Speaker 1>and Mark Stein. This link, uncutt is underway and then fire.

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<v Speaker 1>This should be a good one. It will be a

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<v Speaker 1>good one, even though we're a day late. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we are at day late is totally completely

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<v Speaker 1>my fault. Chris Haynes is the one with the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>travel schedule. He's the one who has at least one

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<v Speaker 1>midweek game that needs to go to often too. He's

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<v Speaker 1>on planes all week long. I am not, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is me. Mark Stein put this one on me. Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>I covered Sons MAVs in Dallas, which started early lean

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<v Speaker 1>really was one of the best regular season showcases of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, just a great really, as good as a

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game can be. And from there I bolted

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly to the airport to make a west coast trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources say I may or may not be in the

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<v Speaker 1>desert right now at the most idyllic tennis setting in

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<v Speaker 1>the world known as Indian wells Sources cannot confirm that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it may be true. So between all that travel Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not I. It was me. I was not

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<v Speaker 1>able to get pinned down long enough for us to

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<v Speaker 1>record this, so we moved it back one day. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course no shortage of stuff to get into. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's safe to say we can only start

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<v Speaker 1>in one place with where things are in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>The John Morant situation in Men this absolutely shocking. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just last week that we had a very explosive

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<v Speaker 1>investigative report from the Washington Post citing various police reports

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<v Speaker 1>about alleged incidents involving Morant and some people close to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and that naturally created quite a stir after the incident

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<v Speaker 1>in late January where members of the Indiana Pacers traveling

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<v Speaker 1>party alleged that they also felt threatened by some of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who were close to Jaw. And after all

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<v Speaker 1>of those things, early Saturday morning hours, the Grizzlies lose

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver. It is Jaw on his own social media channel,

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<v Speaker 1>live streaming on Instagram, Jah live streaming himself with what

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be a gun. You know, absolute shockwaves all

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<v Speaker 1>around the league. You know, obviously he is on this

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<v Speaker 1>minimum two game leave of absence from the Grizzlies, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one suspects he's going to be away from

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<v Speaker 1>the team for a longer period. Man. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen different people weigh in on this and the commentary

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<v Speaker 1>behind it, and I get it. I understand, am I.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not surprised by any of it. I'm really not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that probably sounds bad to say I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, John, Like, I'm not trying to lecture joh

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<v Speaker 1>at this point because everybody's doing it. But he knows

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<v Speaker 1>he can't behave that, you know, he can't behave this

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<v Speaker 1>way at the face of a franchise with a signature

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<v Speaker 1>shoe that just recently came out. You know, he's arguably

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<v Speaker 1>one of one of the top young stars we have

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<v Speaker 1>this league, you know, just with the fan base. My daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter Journey, my youngest daughter, she's eleven. John Morant

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<v Speaker 1>is her favorite player. And I was covering the Grizzlies

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<v Speaker 1>Timberwool's playoff series last last year and I was standing

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<v Speaker 1>in the same hotel with the Grizzlies and she really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a picture with ya, and just so happened we

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<v Speaker 1>were in the lobby at the same time, going in

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator around the same time, I asked ya if

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<v Speaker 1>you can take a picture, and he did. She loves

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<v Speaker 1>that picture she has in her room, and so I've

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<v Speaker 1>been I've had to explain to her the significance of

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<v Speaker 1>this because she's asking me, like, what's going on, And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a conversation to be half for sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say this time, I don't know what he's going through,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can somewhat relate. When you come from not

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<v Speaker 1>having a lot of money to having money all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, having succe as having somewhat of notoriety, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a challenging trajectory if you're not truly prepared

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<v Speaker 1>and much and just on a mature level, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not much, you know, if you're not mature enough to

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<v Speaker 1>handle what's about to come at you. So I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Stein, You know, I got married when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty one, So it's approaching what twenty years so

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<v Speaker 1>far hasn't been the easiest, for sure, definitely hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been easy at all. But I remember, Stein, when

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<v Speaker 1>my career started to take off, and when my career

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<v Speaker 1>started to take off, you know, when your career started

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<v Speaker 1>to take off. You start. You know, there's there's people

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<v Speaker 1>that's praising you. There, there's there you know. They want pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>they want autographs, they want your attention, they want your advice.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I remember when this started happening, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>out the blue, and I remember I would go home

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and I'm just gonna be blunt, styt it would

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<v Speaker 1>be it would be some shit. I just wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore at the house, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some shit that I would tolerate at the

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<v Speaker 1>house before, I just wasn't don't take it anymore because

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm Chris b hangs now you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying about taking this ship though, both you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>it got to a point where, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a rocky period for for a few years. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie, but I'm only saying that to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how it is to all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're trying to handle this new notoriety or

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<v Speaker 1>this new somewhat power that you have with this influence

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, and you're trying not to let it

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<v Speaker 1>get the best of you to where it won't affect

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<v Speaker 1>your everyday life. And and I think that's where gis

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<v Speaker 1>at right now, where he's trying to I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>where he has to come to terms what he has

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<v Speaker 1>to get a sense and get a feel for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like being in the lime, like like this

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four to seven, being a face, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>faces young faces of the league, face of the franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>and potentially a face of a shoe brand, which he

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<v Speaker 1>just got his own signature, Nike Shoe. And so he

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<v Speaker 1>has to he needs the right people in his corner

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to keep him, help him, because ultimately it's

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<v Speaker 1>all up to him. But it will help if there's

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<v Speaker 1>people in this corner that's kind of telling them, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be moving a different way. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>on him, right He's got to choose those people. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to make sure that it's the right people at

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<v Speaker 1>this quarter. I don't I'm with you. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here and lecture him either, because everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>doing that and frankly, there are people far more qualified

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<v Speaker 1>to do it than me. But you know, I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>this Monday morning, and I'm not trying to be hyperbolic.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe it when John Morant has such a

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling as a player that when the Grizzlies, remember in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty nineteen lottery, they were supposed to have the

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<v Speaker 1>eighth pick based on odds, they leapt up to number two.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the time it happened, you know, they had

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<v Speaker 1>just traded Mark Gassol away, they knew they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to trade Mike Conley away. Grit and grind was over.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is one of the league's smallest markets. They're

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<v Speaker 1>never known for getting free agents. Moving up in that

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<v Speaker 1>lottery from eight to two to be able to draft

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<v Speaker 1>John Morant was seen by many people around the league

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<v Speaker 1>as a franchise saving moment because Morant has the ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>to be that good. I mean, you said it. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Brewer wrote this in the Washington Post, and a great

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<v Speaker 1>point that I wish I had thought of, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>constantly talking about how it's all these foreign guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are at the forefront of the MVP chase, Jannie, Yoki,

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<v Speaker 1>Luca and Bead when we're looking for young American stars,

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<v Speaker 1>the next generation, not your Durant, your Curries, your Lebron's.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're looking at the young American set. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>John Morant is one of those guys who has the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to be an MVP. That's how talented and electric

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is. And now though he has to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on saving himself again, I'm not trying to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be preachy. I'm not trying to overstate things

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<v Speaker 1>and be hyperbolic. But I don't think it's an exaggeration.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he that was that was job on his

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<v Speaker 1>own Instagram. So like he did this, this, this most

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<v Speaker 1>recent incident over the weekend, he took you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>took responsibility for it with a Maya kulpa which was

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<v Speaker 1>strong and wrecked. But you know, he's got to want

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<v Speaker 1>to fix this more than anyone. Now, the Grizzlies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they've been as stern as they

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<v Speaker 1>should be in trying to help him to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably that will change now because this is all out

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<v Speaker 1>in the open. You know, has the League done it's part?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think there are still so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>and so many things we don't know. But Jah has

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<v Speaker 1>to be the number one guy fixing this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he does because it's not just your daughter. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy has a lot of fans around the league. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most enjoyable players to watch, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody wants to be talking about this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Nobody. So there are a couple of elements

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<v Speaker 1>that the NBA and I know law enforcement in Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to investigate or look into. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this was done on the road. This is at a

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<v Speaker 1>club in Denver, I believe, and so there's question of okay,

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<v Speaker 1>did he personally bring the pistol in himself, and then

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<v Speaker 1>being on the road, there's a question asked to well,

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<v Speaker 1>did he have the pistol on the team plane? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have to look at somebody sent me

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<v Speaker 1>the by laws believe of the CBA and the rules

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<v Speaker 1>and of of how you can carry and what you

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<v Speaker 1>what you can and cannot carry on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>team flight, and I think that is in violation if

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<v Speaker 1>he was to have that on a flight. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of little elements right there that that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get answers to. And and so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. You know, the Grizzlies put out a statement

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<v Speaker 1>saying at least two games he sat out the game

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Clippers in which they lost, the Clippers came

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<v Speaker 1>back in one believes down by sixteen, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. So it's it's what is it being called.

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<v Speaker 1>It's being officially called, uh, indefinitely, I believe, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not I mean, you know, it's a suspension,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody's using the word suspension. I mean it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, I mean that the Grizzlies have made it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like that this is a personal leave for John Morant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're not using the word suspension. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll we'll have to see how much longer this lasts.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody expects this to only be a

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<v Speaker 1>two game app sence. The one, you know, the CBA

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<v Speaker 1>element is something that we do know because that that's

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<v Speaker 1>happened before with the Gilbert Arenas Javaris Crittenen thing in Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that you know if you have it. Basically, the

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<v Speaker 1>CB eight says that if if there is a if

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<v Speaker 1>there is a firearm on team, on team premises or

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<v Speaker 1>on a team plan or anything like that, like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>an automatic fifty game suspension. So that's why I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as you alluded to, the league is trying to ascertain

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where was the gun before the Instagram video

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<v Speaker 1>and all other manner of questions tied to that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, I mean, this is just again nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>any of us really wanted to be discussing. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm I don't even know how to artfully

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to where to artfully take

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<v Speaker 1>it after that. I mean, look, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, it's it's all to job. Like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all as job. It's not it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>his The people he's around, they're part of it. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a part of it. But even then that's ultimately Jab's

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<v Speaker 1>decision on what he's going to do moving forward, how

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to move the people is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>in this corner. And you know, even with the reports

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<v Speaker 1>that have been coming out over the last few months

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<v Speaker 1>or whenever, it's it's still problematic, Like it's still even

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<v Speaker 1>if he's exonerated from these things, these stories coming out,

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<v Speaker 1>getting into these type of situations, it's still problematic. So look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I covered, like I believe I had his first sit

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<v Speaker 1>down interview when he when he um declared for the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA draft. I flew this was this was the night

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<v Speaker 1>that Damian Lillard hit that crazy three over Paul George.

0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.880
<v Speaker 1>It was that night when they when he eliminated O

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<v Speaker 1>kase I took a red eye. The game ended like

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<v Speaker 1>at ten thirty. My flight was like at twelve fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirty. I took a red eye to Florida. I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot the city in Florida. That job was training that

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<v Speaker 1>but I took a red eye to Florida for a

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<v Speaker 1>morning sit down interview from the pot the former podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I had, and um, he was great. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him and I asked him, I said, what's

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<v Speaker 1>he What is your natural position in the NBA? And

0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.280
<v Speaker 1>he said point guard And I said, okay, point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He said no, no, point God. I'm like, oh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I remember him telling me that his dad

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<v Speaker 1>was they they they were all laughing. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>shocked at somebody who wasn't even drafted yet was I

0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.640
<v Speaker 1>was speaking at high of himself. But he's definitely lived

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<v Speaker 1>up to the building. And I hope you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing talent. Man. I love this pops his uncle. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>they got they got real good people, ma, So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>pull them for him to get this team together. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>try to move this back to basketball, because, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>my Sunday started with the very very early and mom

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<v Speaker 1>the American Air Life Center. But it was I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a morning person, leaving. Leaving for a game at

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<v Speaker 1>nine am is always going to be a struggle for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, was it worth it. Absolute fantastic Mattinee Sons, MAVs,

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<v Speaker 1>Durant and Booker go for seventy three. Of course, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>saw the fireworks at the end when Luca don Chich

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<v Speaker 1>missed the short shot in the lane that could have

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<v Speaker 1>tied things up. He and Booker ended up going nose

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<v Speaker 1>to nose. There was a lot there, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing you come away with is this Sun's

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<v Speaker 1>team in its infancy, infancy in the Durant era, looking

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<v Speaker 1>awfully dangerous already early in this incarnation, despite concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>their bench and maybe not having enough depth beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>four guys they've stacked up in that starting lineup with

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<v Speaker 1>Katie joining Booker and Chris Paul and DeAndre Ayton. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a rare occasion, Chris Haynes, where you were forced

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<v Speaker 1>to watch on television and I was at the big.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the Big showdown. What did you What

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of the Sun so far with Katie?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Katie's fitting He's fitting in exactly how I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was going to fit in. Man is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most efficient scores we have. He can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he just blends in and Kyd says that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I can play in any system, any coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's showing it. He's not even like he's

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<v Speaker 1>not even going out there shooting a whole bunch of shots.

0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.640
<v Speaker 1>He's scoring, getting twenty and thirty really just really efficiently Man,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not I can't say I'm impressed. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>what I expected. But you know, they still have to

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<v Speaker 1>get there rid him. Chris Paul is still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like he offensively, like he's still trying to find where

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<v Speaker 1>he fits in in that but he's still running the show.

0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a high number of assists. But you know,

0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a really good game, definitely. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody obviously talking about Luca and Devin Booker little

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<v Speaker 1>skirmish there at the end, and you know, hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see those those two teams messed up in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Again because there was already history before and now you

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<v Speaker 1>add in that Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irvan dynamic to that,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's going to be even more compelled. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it. I said it before Kevin Durant stepped

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<v Speaker 1>foot on the floor for the Phoenix Suns, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>barred injuries, I still think Phoenix is the team to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>And Stine real quick, let me let me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this team real quick. We'll get back to Phoenix. The Clippers. Stein, So,

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<v Speaker 1>they had lost. You know, that was a team just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago, was looking like a real

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Championship continuing team. They were starting to find find

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<v Speaker 1>they grew and they lost five in a row and

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<v Speaker 1>they just won. So we're recording this. What is this Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Monday, Monday night. They went one Sunday and

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<v Speaker 1>beat Memphis. That did a Memphis team that didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>Dealing Brooks or John Morant or god, what's the guy,

0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Clark, Brandon Clark, Stephen app Yeah, so they came

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<v Speaker 1>back and beat them. But so Stein, I was covering

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of Clipper games. Stein, so here I

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>am going to cover this Clipper game, and again all

0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the buzz is that the Clippers have found their form.

0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.200
<v Speaker 1>They're found, they're finally getting healthy, Kawhi Leonards getting back

0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.159
<v Speaker 1>into shape, and they found their fact. They found their form,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm looking forward to watching this team. So

0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I cover one game they lost that game, cover another

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 1>game they lost that game. So then I'm covering their

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<v Speaker 1>the Clippers Warriors, and so we go to shoot around.

0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>For those who don't know shoot around, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>little mini practice session the morning of the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>I go to Clippers shoot around. I talked to Russ

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<v Speaker 1>and I talked to Nicholas Petune. And Petune is my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I covered him back in the Portland days.

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<v Speaker 1>So Petune tells me, don't talk to me. I'm like,

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 1>what you mean, don't talk to you? Don't talk to me.

0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Every game you've been to we've lost. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you blame it on me, Like, oh okay, yeah, every

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>game you've been So we started like telling his teammates, yeah,

0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>every game we Chris has been too, we've lost. Get

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<v Speaker 1>out of here. I'm like, all right, whatever, I leave

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.200
<v Speaker 1>him alone. So Stein the Warriors, like the Warriors start

0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>putting the pounding all the Clippers in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just bad stop. And so you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>sideline reporter, I get to go behind the team's bitch

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of listening in on, you know, what's being

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, what's being said amongst the players and coaches,

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and so Warriors go this crazy rud Clippers call a

0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.879
<v Speaker 1>time out. Warriors are up big in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go by the go behind the Clippers locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excuse me, I go behind the Clippers bench, and

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<v Speaker 1>but Tuna just staring at me, staring at me, mad,

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just staring at me. And remember I'm right behind the bitch,

0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 1>and so I just start laughing. And so I'm like,

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I had to like stop myself because you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>these where's a piss right now? You know what I'm saying,

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>what just happened. So I had to kind of like

0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.679
<v Speaker 1>turn my back compor Twitis mugging at me, staring at me,

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 1>blaming me for what for what they did on the court. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>But they got they gotta win in Memphis, and I

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. I think I got another Clipper game in

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks. We'll see you not if I truly am,

0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I am the Jinks. But that was tough right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost laughing right there behind their bench, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while they're just getting blown out. I hope you are

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<v Speaker 1>the Jinks because I don't want the Jinks to be Russ.

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself rooting for him, even though you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't, I don't. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he's this is a guy who's headed to the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame eventually. He's had an incredible career and I

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't like seeing the punching bag that he

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<v Speaker 1>had become during parts of his time with the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really wanted to see this Clipper thing work.

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>But you know, when they during that oh and five start,

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 1>a very trusted scout actually reached out to me and said, man,

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the Russ curse is real, And I'm like, hold on

0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 1>a second, the Clippers, there's always been the so called

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Clipper curse. First of all, there are no such thing

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>as curses. Really, there are no we there. You know,

0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.879
<v Speaker 1>we love to talk about curses in sports, but come on,

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>we don't really believe in them, do we. But like

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<v Speaker 1>this scout, who who one of my most trusted one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most trusted set of eyes that I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>come to, you know, I really respect the way he

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.159
<v Speaker 1>sees the game. And he said, yeah, man, I have

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>a bad feeling that this is the Russ curse because

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<v Speaker 1>Russ has not played poorly as a Clipper. I mean

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 1>he's he's given them, he's given them better production in

0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>some ways than he was given the Lakers. But I

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't know if he fits right with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they they made these they made re bold move, you know,

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty maybe bold's too strong, and they made three strong

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 1>moves at the deadline to bring in Eric Gordon and

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Plumbly and Bones Highland, and then they you know, then

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>they went for Russ. And it's just is it one

0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 1>move too many? I mean, they've just you're right, they

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>were they heading into the trade deadline All Star period,

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they looked like they were on a great trajectory and

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>now it has gone completely the other way. And yeah,

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>the only win with Russ is against a very depleted

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and chaos ridden memberis team. So it is not looking good.

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And I don't have the answer. I'm just kind of

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>watching the bar trying to make sense. And the last

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>episode we did Steine. I talked about how we talked

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>about how Russ Is still qualifies for the six Man

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a Year award. So it's funny. Start. So I don't

0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>know if I should say it, but I was saying. So.

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Russ before that game, that last game

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>against the Wards that I covered, and I asked him,

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, you know you are technically you still

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 1>do qualify because you're not going You're going to play

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>more games this season as a reserve than the starter,

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.159
<v Speaker 1>so you still qualify for that six Men the Year award.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>He was I was like, how do you feel about it?

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>And I said this on T and T during the

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>During the game, he was like, Chris, what's my model?

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Why not? He said, why not? He said? You know,

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>he said, I busted East. I busted my ass to

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>fit into a new role I wasn't accustomed to. And

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the team has success. He said,

0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>he has success. And he said, hey, if he gets

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 1>enough votes to win that award, he'll definitely accept that.

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:54.359
<v Speaker 1>That definitely be something that he would cherish. So it's funny.

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna dable, but it's funny. So were you know,

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 1>so I the convert. I was having a conversation one

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:07.880
<v Speaker 1>of the purse a staff member for the Clippers. I'll

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>just say that, and we brought up the sixth Man

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a Year award, like okay, like now you guys have

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 1>two six Men of Year candidates and they were like, no,

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just Norm. I don't think. They said, we don't

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>think Russ really wants it. And I was like, no,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not true, that that is not true. And they

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, man, you know dorn Palace. Is there

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been the sixth man all year? And

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it. It's a connection. But look, I don't

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>think Russ was still a trip. But you know, he's

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely uh, he would definitely accept it if if if

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you got enough votes, that's definitely something that he would

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>feel honored about. You know what, though, you brought up

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that but Tom interaction, and I'm so glad you did,

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>because you actually brought up sideline reporting and huddles on

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>last show and I wanted to ask you about this,

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and I somehow we got sidetracked that I didn't get

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the chance. It must have been maybe when you you

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>must have launched into your radiator Annie Free story because

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it's great what you I have not done as much

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 1>sideline reporting as you, but what little, what little I

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>did do was always for ESPN Radio. It was All

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Star Game, but it was the NBA Finals and one

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest gigs that I ever had in my life.

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>After Rick Buker left ESPN for four finals thirteen fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>that's seventeen, actually five finals between twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen,

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I was ESPN Radio sideline reporter at the finals. Some

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>years there were two of us. Shelley Smith also did it.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>But like you said, part of the job, one of

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the best parts of the job is you have the

0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>license to go to go to lead into the huddle

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>as best you can, see as much as you can

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and report stuff. And I remember when I first started

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>doing it, Buker's advice to me was, don't ever make

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>eye contact with the coach. Look in the huddle, try

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to look at what's on the board, try to hear

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the instructions. But whatever you do, do not make eye

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>contact with the coach. So you just you just told

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a story of you making eye contact with Batoune, which

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>is different because he's a player. But what are do

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you do you employ a similar strategy or will you

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 1>just look right into Tyler's eyes if you can when

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>you get the chance, Like, how do you how do

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you deal with that? That's a good question. I've never

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>thought about not making eye contact, but I guess you

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 1>tend to do that anyways. You know. Look, so as

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a pertains Batun, he made eye contact with me. I

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>was trying to avoid them because I figure he'll be

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>going there, and so it just made an awkward situation.

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going over there and he's making me laugh

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>while they're just down and so that was awkward. But

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>um no, I think, Um, I don't say I make

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>eye contact with the coach. I'm just looking around. I'm

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>just scoping around the whole the whole bench area. I'm

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>going left or right. Um, I think both all the

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>coaches know that I'm not going to pick off a

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>play and report a play or anything like that. And

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, you definitely have to be selective with what

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to use on air. You don't want to

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to report anything that's going to jeopardize

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the trust that these coaches give you. You know, because

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 1>we have coaches meeting with these with the coaches before

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the game, and they'll tell us a lot like they'll

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>tell us, you know, start lineups, Um, you know where

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>they're going, and that's not out yet. And you know

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.479
<v Speaker 1>you got to keep that to yourself as a broadcast partner,

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>so you know, you don't want to do anything to

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>jeopardize the trust. But Styn, you know what, I'm gonna

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>go there, I'm gonna go there. I got a story

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>do I got time for this time. I got a

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>story about this time. You have all the time in

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the world. You have no time limit ever Stein. So

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you this. This would have been I

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>have to look this up. I think this would have

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>been two playoffs ago. A matter of fact, it was

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>two playoffs ago, Denver Nuggets, Denver Nuggets, Denver Nugget playoffs.

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Who were they playing, Phoenix Suns. Phoenix Suns, Denver Nuggets

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>plaoffs two playoffs ago. You can look that up. It

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was the last playoff game, right, So coach Malone was

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>they were down old three to Phoenix and for the

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>first three games he was bringing he was bringing in.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>He was bringing Will Barton and Monte Morris off the

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 1>bench and So the night before Game four, which is

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a potential closeout game, the night before I got word

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>from multiple sources that Will Barton and Monte Morris will

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>be asserted into the start lineup, right, So I had

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>that information and my plan was to use it to

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>report that information sometime in the afternoon the day of

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the game. The problem is Stein sometimes in those meetings,

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>again we had those coaches meet coach meetings before the game,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes the coach would tell us the broadcast team

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>who they're starting, who they're bringing off the bench. Sometimes

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they won't. So I'm hoping in this meeting that coach

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Malone doesn't reveal his starting light up. But for some reason,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Coach Malone did, And now I've stuck. I'm like, damn,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I just told the broadcast. But I had already told

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>my company about the starting line of change, so they

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>knew I had it already. And so I'm I'm decided

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to debate on what should I do? What should

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I do? Like how do I handle this? Like what

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>do I do? Just to clarify, you're reporting for Yahoo

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>as well as at the time you were also writing

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>for Yahoo, correct, And so I'm like, what am I

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>going to do. What am I gonna do? And so,

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>long story short, talk to upper management and uh, I

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 1>got to go ahead to hey, you let us know

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>before this meeting happened, you had it, you had planned

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to sit until us in time. Go ahead. So I

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 1>went ahead and did that. In the afternoon, I got

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>word Mike Malone was pissed. Was pissed. I'm like, damn.

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I kind of knew it, but I was like, damn,

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, you know I had. So I'm I'm

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>talking to you know, GETS officials. I'm telling them, look,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I understand why you think this, but I already had

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this information. You know. I'm I'm a report. I already

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>had this information. And you can talk to the higher

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>ups at at T and T. Yeah, but when coach

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Malone gives you this information in the pre game, you're

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to use it. And I'm like, I had

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 1>this information. And so I even debated Stein for that

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that call, that pregame meeting. I even debated not doing

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it because I knew what information I had. I didn't

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>want to put myself in that situation. And long story short,

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>we get to the game and it was the end

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of the third quarter, which coach Malone is, I'm supposed

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to interview coach Malone in the third quarter. He didn't

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>do the interview. He didn't do anything. I don't know

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>if you ever knew that stein he didn't. He didn't

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>do the interview. Yeah, he didn't do the interview. And

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>so the only time a coach is not supposed to

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>do an interview is if they're up or down by

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty or more. But they were, they were within distance.

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was pretty close game going into

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that fourth quarter. At the same time, I understood because

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>he was down, and you know, he was down going

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>into the fourth and that's the final quarter to try

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep the season alive. So I didn't trip so lightweight.

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of thinking, like, damn, did he do this?

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Did he not do this interview because he's I broke

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>before or is it because he's really into this fourth quarter?

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And so I really didn't know. Like so I'm like

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of like mess messed up, bro like, because I

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>felt like I did everything the right way and handed

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the right way. I went to my company, you know,

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>UM went to them first, and you know, they got

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>eliminated after that game. But I would say that, so

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.479
<v Speaker 1>I kind of felt bad. But Coach Malone caught me

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>like a week later, and I think it was at

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>point when I got in a bike accident at that time.

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>But he called a week later and I didn't pick

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't pick up I I missed the call and

0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>he left a voice message, Man, Chris, we're all good man.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I hope you're having a great summer. Man. You know,

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was just cool, man. So I'm glad.

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he did that. But that's one of those again,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking people behind the scenes of you know what,

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>some of the things elements you gotta do with us

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>being a sideline reporter, and that's that's one situation that

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I got myself into where it was kind of it

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>was kind of rough. Yeah, I didn't remember the I

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>don't remember the bike accident either, but I'm I mean,

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he did call you and it was over.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, that's the thing, because I think the

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 1>distinction here probably that we need to clarify. Most sideline

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>reporters are not also journalists writing, you know, I guess

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>written correspondence is probably the better word. Most sideline reporters

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>are generally strictly only on TV, whereas like when I

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>did it for radio, or Buker did it before me,

0:34:55.560 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>or you're doing it for TNT. You are also, you know,

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>someone who writes about the league as well as covers

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it electronically. So I think there's always that little little

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 1>uh because I remember, again, I'm only doing it sparingly,

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>but during the finals, you know, I would go to

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>those meetings too with you know, Mark Kesters and Huby

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Brown or doctor Jack and Hube and I'm there, and

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's kind of that that look where like hey, Stein,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know you can listen all this, but you better

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>not be writing it before the game because those meetings

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>are considered off the record information for the broadcast not

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, they're not telling you to report

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it seven hours before tip off. They're telling it to

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>give you background that can be used during the game broadcast.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>So that is that is tricky territory for someone like you,

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>someone like me who is doing multiple jobs at once. Yeah,

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that that was tough, and it was again coach Malone,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it was cool. I was glad he

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>called me left a message. Um you know that would

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that was good to hear because I definitely coming from

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>his side, Stein, coming from his side, I would see

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.560
<v Speaker 1>why he would think that I used his information to

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>get that story, and so I understood that, and so

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>that's that's Those are the kind of things that make

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it tough. All right, Well, this this has gone in

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a couple of different directions that I didn't expect. So listen,

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we are we We are not going to do it

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 1>today because there's one other topic I want to get

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>to before we we closed down, but we we will

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>be talking more and more about the Knicks, because I

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.839
<v Speaker 1>do think the Knicks right now have have emerged as

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>as maybe the best story in basketball. Incredible run, you know,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 1>two recent wins over Boston, the way Brunson is playing,

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the way Julius Randall is playing, just how amazingly they've

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>turned it around from last year. But sticking with the West,

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>because I think, you know, so much of what we've

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>talked about already kind of feeds into this. A Western

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Conference official asked me recently, Stein, who are you Who

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>are the three teams that can win the West? If

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>if you had to, if you had to bet right now,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.240
<v Speaker 1>who are the three teams that can win the West.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.319
<v Speaker 1>And I can't say what team this executive works for,

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 1>but I can say that his team did not make

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the cut. My three the only three teams I think

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that can really win the West. Denver. I just think

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>they've been the most consistent, the Yokis factor. You know,

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Murray and Porter are healthy, They've strengthened their bench. I

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>think the Nuggets have to top the list, deserve to

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>top the list, despite any doubts you have about what

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they can do in the playoffs and are they for real?

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be playing in under immense playoff prove it

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to us pressure. But I think Denver has to be there.

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Golden State, I give it to them based on yes,

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they've got championship. No how it's been a nightmare season

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to this point in terms of, you know, consistency. But

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I think the Warriors have to be there because of

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>what they've done. You know, they still have a core

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>three with Steph Clay and Draymond who've won four championships.

0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>They know how it feels what it takes to go

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the playoff distance. So I think the Warriors have to

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>be there as well. And then Phoenix, even though they're

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>still in the embryonic stages of the Durant era. They've

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>just got too much talent. They have to be considered

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a team that can coalesce and come together and get

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to the West. But for me, those really are the

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>only three. I am ruling out everyone else, even in

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the crowded jumble in the West standings that is now

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>goes from two down to number thirteen because you know

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Memphis has been sliding here. Do you dispute that in

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>any way? Is there anybody else I'm leaving out in

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the West who can win the West that's not named

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Nuggets Clip sorry, not Clippers, Nuggets, Sons or Warriors. It's

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>tough that you you only give me three options. It's

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 1>really hard to dispute. Tell me I'm wrong if I'm wrong,

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>coming well, no, it's just not that, Just like damn,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to I still feel like I still think

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>there's a slight chance that the Lakers can make some

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>brown if Lebron comes back with enough time and he's healthy. Um,

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>who else Clippers it would be? That would be an

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>incredible story because I just I struggle to see Lebron

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>being you know, if we see him as he what

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>is he going to be seventy eighty percent at best

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 1>if he can come. If the Lakers make the make

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, make the play in make the playoffs, I mean,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess you give them a puncher's chance if Lebron

0:39:44.120 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and a d are there. But it's like, I don't

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 1>know for me. Clippers are going in the wrong direction.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>The Grizzlies are in a crisis. The Kings, yes, they've

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>been absolutely impressive and storybook to be the number three

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 1>seed all this time, and Mike Brown's gonna win Coach

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 1>of the Year and Fox and Si Bonus, we're all stars.

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, we're we can't talk about the Kings

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<v Speaker 1>making a playoff run until that we actually see them

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoffs again. The MAVs, there's just not enough

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<v Speaker 1>defense there around Luca and Kyrie, you know, Minnisto, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who who, I just I don't see it. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you that. I'll give it that. It's hard. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>as a right now. We're just talking strictly as a

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's hard to go against Denver Phoenix and

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<v Speaker 1>going to State for the reasons you mentioned prior. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard writing Memphis off too soon? Am I writing Memphis

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<v Speaker 1>off too soon. Not we You're not. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so, I don't think. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>absolute chaos for them. I mean the job situation is

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<v Speaker 1>that serious that I mean it's And Brendan Clark is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge piece to that team. He's as so much

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<v Speaker 1>too now. I just I don't think this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the Grizzlies year. UM and the Clippers. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we have every year we say what a what if

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<v Speaker 1>Kawuhi and PG are are there for the playoffs? But

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<v Speaker 1>I just the signals, the signals coming out of clipper

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<v Speaker 1>Land ain't great right now? It do but Sty, we

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<v Speaker 1>we've done so. I think we're at the forty minute

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<v Speaker 1>mark Man, and we gave we just had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good podcast. But Sty, I know you know I'm gone

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<v Speaker 1>through something and I'm not ready to to share that personally.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you're you're dealing with something as well, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to. I want to give you the

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<v Speaker 1>floor for that. No, I appreciate that. UM. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not like to bring my personal stuff into the into

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<v Speaker 1>the work sphere, but I really I want to dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>this show to someone I went to high school with.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Eltoro High class of nineteen eighty seven. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>we got the news. Just I only found out today. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're recording this on Monday for for Tuesday just distribution.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone I went to high school with, someone very dear

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<v Speaker 1>to me, passed suddenly over the weekend. His name was

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Powell, and he was traveling with his family on

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<v Speaker 1>a family vacation in Hawaii. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>dedicate this show to him because I was incredibly fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a high school. We in our senior

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<v Speaker 1>year we had one of the best teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of southern California. And that's not just hyperbole from

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<v Speaker 1>someone who obviously roots for his own school. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look it up. The Eltoro High School football

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<v Speaker 1>team in nineteen eighty six was an absolute powerhouse. First

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<v Speaker 1>of three quarterbacks who went to the Pros and Brett Johnson,

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<v Speaker 1>just a slew of Division one guys. And Mac was

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Powell was the Bo Jackson of my high school.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't play on the football team. They tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get him to play on the football team so he

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<v Speaker 1>would have He would have played football for one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best high school teams in Southern California history, except

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<v Speaker 1>he was saving his body for his basketball and baseball prowess.

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<v Speaker 1>Just an absolutely incredible athlete, the athlete of all my

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<v Speaker 1>high school years. When I think of great athletes that

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up with in my childhood, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>is number one on the list. And just an absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>tragic loss in our in the community, of all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that I went to high school with. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to send the warmest wishes and best wishes

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<v Speaker 1>and deepest condolences and just all the strength and love

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<v Speaker 1>I can muster to his wife Kim and his son

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<v Speaker 1>Boog who Boogs so talented in his own right that

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<v Speaker 1>he made it to the major leagues as an outfielder.

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<v Speaker 1>So incredibly athletic. Family and Maxter love you and you

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<v Speaker 1>will be so missed. And the Chris, thanks for letting

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<v Speaker 1>me do the I really appreciate my condolecence to you

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<v Speaker 1>and to him and his family. Man, I understand how

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<v Speaker 1>tough it is. Yeah, I appreciate the sentiments because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie this one. This one definitely has

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<v Speaker 1>me shaken. But everyone, thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on another episode of This League Uncut. Chris and

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<v Speaker 1>I will be back with one more episode this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I will try not to mess up the recording schedule anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because again, mister Haynes is the one who's flying all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place and I shouldn't be messing us up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will do better. Guys, thanks to MIL for

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<v Speaker 1>being with us, and we will be back with you

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<v Speaker 1>soon into court. Please rate, review, subscribe, thanks for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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