WEBVTT - Spider-man: Into the Spider-verse 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.160 On the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.720 The questions asked if movies have women and them, are 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.440 all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do they 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:14.080 have individualism? It's the patriarchy, Zephim Beast start changing with 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:15.320 the Bechdel Cast. 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:22.319 Jamie, Caitlyn, when you get knocked down, you have to 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.240 get back up again. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.760 You're never gonna Spider Man down. I get knocked down. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:31.080 Is that what you're doing? I know what you're talking about, 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:32.479 but you set me up for it. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.919 He he, No, and I'm glad you did that. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.240 Thank you. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.720 Hello everyone. My name is Caitlin Dante. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:42.800 My name is Jamie Loftus, and. 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:47.320 This is the Bechdel Cast, our show where we where 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.040 we analyze movies through an intersectional feminist lens, using the 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.520 Bechdel Test as a jumping off point. We'll tell you 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:59.440 what that is in a moment. Today is a special 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:06.400 episode because we are releasing an episode that we recorded 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.680 for the Matreon. Yes, I think like four years ago. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:14.360 Yeah, I mean we and you in particular were very 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.200 pumped on this movie, as was the world as will 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.000 the world be again, which is why we are unlocking 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.640 our episode about Spider Man into the Spider Verse ahead 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.560 of the sequel, which if you don't know, if you 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:34.240 live under a rock, no judgment Patrick Starr. Sorry, I 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.680 was watching SpongeBob this morning, okay, brag, I mean literally 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:42.080 lives under a rock. It's commentary. So Patrick Starr probably 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.240 doesn't know that the sequel comes out this week, and 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.080 we're very excited to see it, so we wanted to 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.280 unlock the episode. Yes, so yeah. This originally appeared on 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.080 our Patreon aka Matreon, which hey, if you like this episode, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.520 you can pop over there. Five bucks a month, two 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.440 bonus episodes a month, and it's been going since twenty 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.680 seventeen gasp. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.680 Gasp, And this one was from May twenty nineteen. It 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.600 was one of my birthday episodes that year, so if 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.680 you hear references to it being my birthday throughout the episode, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.160 that is why. But also it's kind of always my birthday. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.880 Also, your birthday wasn't that long ago, so truly, let's 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.480 we're going to continue celebrating and observing your birthday. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.120 Thank you so much. We also talk about in this 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.520 episode how Alfred Molina is not in the MCU and 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.200 how that's a crime. Oh good catch, because at the 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:39.200 time of this recording, he was not in the MCU. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:43.000 But then but then Spider Man No Way Home comes 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.800 out well, well well, which is about a different Spider 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:51.359 Verse than the Miles Morales Spider Verse according to the 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.359 movies at least, I don't know what happens in the comics. 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.920 But Alfred Molina, we are proud to say, is now 0:02:59.000 --> 0:02:59.840 in the MCU. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.240 He's MCU can and honestly think, freaking god. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:05.760 It's about dang time. 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.040 So that's been you know, one of the few things 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.840 Marvelous done right in the last couple of years is 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:17.400 finally formally induct mister Alfred Blina into the MCU. So yes, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.920 remember this is the past. These are versions of ourselves 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.480 that are simply so stoked about Spider Man into the 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.240 Spider Verse. And we were right. But things have changed 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.560 and they've actually gotten much worse. So just keep that 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.680 in mind when you're listening to the episode. We have 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.560 no idea how bad things are going to get, and 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.320 so in that way, it's kind of a window to 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:40.800 the past. It is, but it's true. But we're very 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.920 excited to share it with the main feed. We're obviously 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.760 very pumped for the new movie we will very likely 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.080 be covering the new movie on either the main feed 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.240 or the Matreon down the line. But yeah, we wanted 0:03:53.240 --> 0:04:00.640 to celebrate, so happy summer, and please enjoy the episode 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.200 on Spider Man into the spider Verse. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.400 Please enjoy. But also, I guess first we should say 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.960 what the Bechdel test is, which we didn't pass when 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.000 we were talking about Alfred Molina, except that we did 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.680 make the rule that when we talk about Alfred Molina, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:15.560 it does pass. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.520 But if you've been with us for a while, you'll 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.760 know that it passes on a technicality. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:24.719 However, However, normally the Bechdel Test, which is the media 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.280 metric that we named the show after, even though we 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:33.200 talk about so much more. But the Bechdel Test is 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.960 a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison Bechdel, sometimes 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:42.000 called the Bechdel Wallace Test. It first appeared in her 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.560 comic Dikes to Watch Out For as a bit and 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.320 also I want to do this more, but just to 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.280 shout out the context in which it appears in the comics, 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:57.800 because it's two queer women talking about how when they're 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.479 watching a movie and two women appear on screen and 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:04.720 they talk to each other if they're not talking about 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.280 a man. These characters in the comic strip kind of 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.560 ship the two women together because there was so little 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:18.160 and still is so little queer visibility on screen. Yeah, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.960 so that is the context for the Bechdel test, the 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:26.240 version we use, There are many versions. Here's ours. Two 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.560 characters of a marginalized gender must have names, they have 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.359 to speak to each other, and their conversation has to 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:37.520 be about something other than a man. And we really 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.440 like it when it's a nice, substantial conversation and not 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:49.039 just a how's the weather, gale? It's good, Betty. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.360 Although that's iconic. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.240 I mean that's that I should write an entire script 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.000 around that conversation alone. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.200 Yeah, it should be called how well not until the 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.320 strikes every Baby, which we will be talking about on 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:07.279 the Matreon this month. A little peek into some bonus 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:11.000 content coming up. But yes, we uh that that is 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.560 what the Bechdel test is. It's especially during the month 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.839 of June Pride months. I'm glad that it's something that 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.040 we're talking about the specific context. 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:24.000 Yes, indeed, So with all of that in mind, please 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:30.760 enjoy this unlocked Patreon aka Matreon episode on Spider Man 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.760 into the Spider Verse cast. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:40.839 Anyways, welcome, We're into the Spider Verse today. I'm excited, Caitlin. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.560 I mean, I think if you, if you're familiar with 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.120 our show, you know your history with this movie is. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.800 But why don't you recap it? 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.159 Well? I did see the movie five times in the theater. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:55.040 I mean, it's no me and Itania, but it's pretty impressive. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:57.960 Wait. How many times did you end up seeing Ititania? 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.880 Nine? Oh my god, I was really into it. There 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.400 is I have this very cursed screenshot of like the 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.359 two months I was signed up for a movie past 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.000 and it's like nine eye toon Yes, and then an 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.280 unsubscription once I was out of theaters. Oh my goodness, wild. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.119 But five times is like intense. Yeah, yours you stand 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:18.800 this movie? 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:19.520 I really do. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:20.080 Yeah? 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.480 And then your history. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.800 Is I just saw it for the first time. I didn't. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.640 I simply didn't see it in theaters because I was 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.320 too busy watching my DVD of Ititonya at home. But 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.280 I mean, I am a fan. I'm a longtime fan 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.520 of Spider Man. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:36.120 Sure. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.520 I think it's really the only superhero I've ever been 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.640 a fan to the point where I would like, go 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.440 keep up sure as best I could. Yeah, I think 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.680 a lot of that does have to do with Alfred Molina, 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.600 to be honest, obviously, because now that I'm saying I've 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.520 kept up with Spider Man, I haven't seen the new 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.800 ones and I didn't see the Andrew Garfield ones, So 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.080 I guess I really am just. 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.080 Really just a big from Molina as dot com. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.000 I did like the Sam Raimi trilogy, and I don't 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.160 know why I didn't keep going with Spider Man. But 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.000 there was a while, like in middle school, I'm like, 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.440 I'm into Spider Man. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.800 Well the amazing Spider Man's with Andrew Grefield. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.920 Are they suck? Right? Yeah? 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.400 But then the new reboot that's part of the mculove. Yeah, 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:22.600 I really enjoyed the first one. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:26.040 Okay, people, I mean I hear new Spider Man rules, 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.520 I just haven't seen it yet. But this was like, 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.160 I mean, this is like right up, Maley. I love 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.560 I love cartoons, I love experimental cartoons. I love Phil Lord. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.640 I have a huge crush on Phil Lord. 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:40.480 Yeah, so I was. I just saw it. I really 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.560 like it and I'm excited to talk about it. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.760 Yeah the Lord is is he hot? 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.559 Oh? Let me get you a visual. Sorry, Smiek Moore 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.080 is also hot. But there's a lot of hot people 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.520 involved in this movie. Actually it's uh, it's actually a 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.920 little bit of setting. Okay, why can't Okay, not to 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.320 dump on Christopher Miller, but that's not who I'm trying 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:03.240 to look at. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.920 Yeah, I don't know what they look like. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.880 He's hot. He's a bit like he's hot, like they're 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.880 there were getting a lot of subpar comic con pictures. 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:14.760 He's hot. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.240 Okay, the thing is, yeah, he's hot. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:17.880 He's hot. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.440 Okay, you know, good for him. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:22.680 But let's talk about the movie. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.160 Yeah, love it, Love it so much. There's so much 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:30.079 to love about it. The animation style is so it's incredible. Yeah, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.840 the I mean, the story, the characters, the soundtrack is awesome. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:35.800 It's funny. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.160 It's funny. The movie does a really good job of 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.400 balancing like heavy emotional beats with like humor. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.640 There was one twist I legitimately did not see coming. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:47.880 Was it the uncle? 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.040 Yes, I didn't see that coming. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:51.080 I didn't either. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.600 This is like, these movies are hard to at this 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.880 point because there's five hundred million superhero movies. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.040 It's hard to. 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.640 Not see something coming like that was. I was very 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.920 pleasantly surprised, and then like really sad I knew like 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.959 once he comes out, You're like, oh no, he's gonna 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.760 die cool. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:11.760 And then I cried. 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.480 I cried like during three different parts of this movie. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.520 When I first saw by myself on Thursday night of 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:22.840 opening weekend, and then oh the other the doc Ock reveal. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:24.040 I didn't see coming the. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.440 Doc Ock reveal. I think I did, but only because 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:30.760 you told me about it. I knew that doc docs 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:40.360 so womn. I knew that doc Cock was a woman. Yeah, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.360 and then it was like, well, this is the only 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:45.880 woman in Stem we've seen so far. So yeah, oh 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.160 I like the reveal that Aunt May is a woman 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.920 in Stem in this one. You're just like, yeah, sure, right, 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.480 there's a lot of this movie where that in a 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.920 very pleasant way. I was like, yeah, of course, sure, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.200 I'm Cage is in it, Sure, I'm I'm with this whatever. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:06.560 It's so fun and yeah, and you never see a 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:12.560 movie this diverse in the normal MCU or really in 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.640 any movie at all. Right, So I'm like really glad 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.440 that this was this movie rated PG, yeah, PG. Yeah. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.480 So I mean it's like that's the perfect like audience 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.160 for this movie and like the audience that both wants 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.520 to and needs to see like a cast this diverse 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:35.120 and funny and cool. So I'm I'm super psyched that 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:36.559 like a ton of people got to see it and 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.520 it was really successful. It like won all the awards, 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:44.920 it was financially successful, and Amy Pascal produced it. Love 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 her emails every time we bring it up. Every time 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.680 Pascal's in the ring, we got to bring up hashtag 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:55.560 her email. Sure if you haven't read Amy Pascal's emails, boy, 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.080 oh boy, she is not a fan of Angelina Jolie. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.040 Oh I haven't. I guess I haven't read them. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.679 Oh she was like the Sony email hack that was. 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.040 I remember that, but I don't know the content of them. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:07.840 I guess she. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:15.040 Really said some funny, mean things about Angelina Jolie. Anyways, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.120 let's talk about the movie. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.760 Yeah, okay, So the recap is we are introduced to 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.240 Spider Man. He's given a voice over. He's like, look 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.320 at me, here's my comic book. I'm the only Spider 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.520 Man around and I'm cool and I love being Spider 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:29.120 Man on his. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.319 Son And that's okay. First of all, you knew you 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.160 saw I was triggered by blonde spider Man or any 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.000 blonde adult male. Sure, and he's the first spider Man 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:41.520 is voiced by one of the Chris. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:42.360 Is Chris Pine? 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:43.240 What is he? 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.160 And the other ones? 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.240 He's He's Marvel. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.280 He's the only one. He's the only Chris. He's in DC, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:51.559 He's in one of them. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.719 Don't do that. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:58.240 He just Bayton switched to me. I knew every actor 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.520 named Chris was in one of the universe versus the Law, 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.959 It's like, how can he be breaking the law? Okay? 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:10.559 Chris Pine is Steve in Wonder Woman. Yes, got it? Okay, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:11.880 I'm good to contain you. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.640 I don't know why you're yelling at me on my birthday. Okay. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:24.400 Also, post Malone has a large he's a huge plot. 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.040 This is the movie that made you a post Malone fan. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:28.800 That's true, It's true. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:30.079 Yeah. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.880 We meet this blonde spider Man and then we meet 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:38.000 Miles Morales. He is going to middle school, private school 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:38.480 in Brooklyn. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.040 He likes art, he likes post Malone, loves post Malone. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.200 He doesn't know the words to the song. He chats 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.559 with this girl in his science class whose name is 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.280 she calls it herself Gwanda. I don't quite know why 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.120 that happens. I don't know why she doesn't just say 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.920 my name is Gwen, because he wouldn't know who Spider 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:00.640 Gwen is. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:05.120 Well, but there are Spider Man comics in his universe, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.360 so maybe the character Gwen Stacy exists does maybe, But 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.560 also it's like if you if I meet someone named Gwen, 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:16.640 I'm not like, you're a fictional character like that. Maybe 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.240 she seems like maybe she's not giving him enough credits. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.880 Right, I guess that all those comics do because we 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.040 see imagery of the He reads them and he has. 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.360 Them, so I'm assuming that he like would know who 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.080 Gwen Stacey was, But why would he think that anyone 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.880 named Gwen was just automatically? So I think she's really 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.720 underestimating his intelligence. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.480 Yeah, yeah, I guess that clears that up. Okay, So 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.360 he talks to her. He goes to his uncle's apartment. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.920 They go into like an abandoned subway line. 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.320 Right, And he's got a cool uncle. And you can 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.000 tell he's cool because he he's not in a committed 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.600 relationship and he has a punch bag and his studio apartments. 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:08.560 I love how cool aunts and uncles are like just 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:14.960 visually established in movies. It is always if any of 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.520 our listeners have any good examples of like cool aunts 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.080 and uncles and their sweet apartments, it's it's basically always 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.000 their apartment. Right, We're just like, oh, this person answers 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:29.560 to no one. They've got framed posters like cool on uncle. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.920 Shit, Yeah right, okay, so cool uncle, cool bachelor uncle. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.920 They go into this abandoned Someway line area and paint 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.000 some graffiti, and this is where Miles gets bitten by 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.960 this crazy looking spider. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.560 Yeah, cute spider. It's very cute spider forty two right, 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.240 Like it's a label. I'm sure that's a reference to something, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.280 and I don't know. I have no idea what it is. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.720 So he gets bitten by this spider, and then the 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.600 next day he wakes up, he feels kind of weird. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:00.880 He's like, did I go through puberty? My pants don't 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.320 fit a lot? 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.160 And you've seen it in five different movies. He's Spider Man, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:06.920 but he's confused. 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:07.680 He doesn't know it yet. 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.520 The webs are come. But you can't say that ever 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:15.200 in the movies except in the James Cameron's Oh God, 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.800 the iconic James Cameron script when he explicitly says it's 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.880 come yeah, if. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:27.320 Only, and then he bumps into Gwanda or Wanda whatever. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.400 He thinks her name is from Class Why by Hailey Steinfeldt, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.600 and he gets his hand stuck in her hair and 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.080 he's like, what the what am I Spider Man or what? 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.360 And then he goes to investigate what's going on, goes 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.200 back to the old subway, sees the Spider and he's like, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.400 wait a minute, this is not normal. And then while 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.920 he's there, he discovers actual Spider Man. He's fighting the 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:52.880 Green Goblin. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:58.720 The Green Goblin is not William H. Macy in correct world. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:03.479 Yeah, it's a literal gobliny giant goble. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.640 Kind of just like a robody kind of guy, right, 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.159 Like he looks like a robot. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.760 Well he's not the robot. He's like just this like 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:16.320 giant reptilian monster with like a tongue that he's more. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:21.080 Like abstract, I mean, he's like more like an actual monster, yeah, 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.919 than like a man, right, just dressed up like a monster. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:29.399 Yes, and then Miles and Spiderman cross paths and Spider 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.120 Man's spider sense goes off. He's like, wait a minute, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.639 you're like me, I can show you the ropes on 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:36.800 how to be Spider Man. Let me just go destroy 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.760 this big collider machine first and defeat this bad guy 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.359 named Fisk. Hell yeah, but then before all that can happen, 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.000 Fisk powers up the super collider that opens up all 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.359 these Yeah, no explanation needed. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.520 But oh it's Willem Dafoe. What the fuck am I talking? Sorry? 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:57.280 What did you say, William? 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:58.000 Oh? 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:58.920 I didn't even catch that. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.280 I can use Willem Dafoe, William age Macy and Steve 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.400 BUSHEMI constant. 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:08.280 I mean they all are like character actors who like. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:09.800 They audition for the same parts a lot. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.159 Probably William H. Macy though, is like he's got like 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:17.359 a kind face. And then Willem Dafoe, it always usually 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.600 plays a villain because he's got like a a more 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:20.480 sinister look. 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.400 About willmhe Macy in trouble because of that whole college admission. 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.760 So yeah, I mean his wife, his wife. I don't 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.119 know how complicit he is in it. 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:32.359 Well, I guess it depends on Actually it's kind of 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.119 a loose less because if he's not involved. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.520 That just means he's not very involved in this children's lives. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.200 So he's a bad father. Maybe he won't go to jail. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:46.919 Sucks how the world works, oh wild. Anyways, so Fisk 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.960 powers up the collider, which opens up all these different 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:56.240 alternate dimensions, and then Fisk kills Spider Man. No, and 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.720 then the bad guys spot Miles, who was like lurking nearby, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:01.359 and he has to make a run for it. And 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:03.840 then one of the bad guys, whose name is I 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.959 think Prowler, goes after Miles, but he manages to escape 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.000 and he's like, okay, fuck, Like, I have to be 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.680 Spider Man. The other Spider Man is dead, like everyone's 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.720 counting on me. I have to assume this role. But 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.600 he doesn't know how to do it. He's complicated jumping 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.840 off of buildings, he breaks the thumb drive that the 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.440 other Spider Man had given him, and he's like, I 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.320 don't know if I can do this. But just then 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.399 another Peter Parker shows up. 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:34.159 What I know? 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.240 This one is Jake Johnson. 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:42.480 Yes, yeah, and he is the amazing Spider Man ever 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:47.040 heard of him? He right, so he's from this alternate dimension. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:53.919 He is older, his life is in shambles. He's divorced, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.240 he's got a dad bod and we love that for him. Yeah, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:58.440 we do. 0:19:59.200 --> 0:19:59.480 Now this. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.520 Peter Parker is reluctant to get involved, but he eventually 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.840 agrees to team up with Miles, and then they go 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:12.000 to alkam X, which is like the science lab that 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.800 is responsible for creating the collider. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:16.640 And they need to go there. 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.080 They have to download like the schematics or something so 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.720 that they can destroy the collider. And then that's where 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:31.080 we meet doc oc aka doctor Olivia Octavius, not Alfred Molina, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:31.960 I know. 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.560 But hell, we've gotta we gotta get him in the MCU. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.600 There's a place for him there. Sure, it breaks my 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:40.879 heart that he's not canon. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:42.600 I know, I'm so sorry. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.200 I truly anyone else in the Raimi Spider Man movies 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.760 don't care, don't need you there. Yeah, but if anyone 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:55.320 has the gentle heart of Alfred Molinas doc ok rehearsing 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.200 for Filler on the roof, I mean, I swear to god, 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:58.160 did you see that video? 0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:58.480 Yes? 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.200 Right, everyone tagged us in it is if you weren't 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:04.359 the person who brought that up on that episode, Oh, 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.760 I know, we're just like hello, oh god, it was 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:09.400 a blank check. 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.600 Yeah yeah, and you know people just like, don't listen 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.760 to me anyways. 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:19.760 Lets it's not. 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:26.600 Your birthday, it's why Okay. So they have downloaded this 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.520 stuff from alchem X and dot coc is there, and 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:33.880 also the person who's there is Gwen, who we learned 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.439 what her actual name is, and she's another Spider person, 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.880