1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: How in the world does the army lose yet another 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: shining star. Why you'd think after Vanessa Gean's case they 3 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: would have learned. And don't get me wrong, I love 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: our military. My father fought for his country. But why 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: is this happening this time? The superstar number one in 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the basic training class, number one in AI Advanced Individual Training, 7 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: and they're not worried. I worried. Today is a very 8 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: urgent program. We are searching for a young trainee, a 9 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: young recruit, just twenty one years old. What has happened 10 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: to Richard Holliday? Take a listen to this. This is 11 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: our friend Natasha Paloma at kat s M. Nine. Richard 12 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: was born in Poland. We adopted him when he was 13 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: about five years old, with his brother, who was almost 14 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: eight at the time. We brought him home and I 15 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: have to remind myself that they're adopted. His mother describing 16 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: him as intelligent and talented, likes to play the piano, 17 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: loves the outdoors, loves the outdoors. Richard Halliday was always 18 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: so independent, his parents say, so much so that he 19 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: decided he would join the service. He was number one 20 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: in basic training, received a five hundred dollars award for 21 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: that which we were. Patricia Halliday says her son excelled 22 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: and even loved being deployed. He became an ephor very 23 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: quickly and went to Qatar. Well he's not a trainee, 24 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: he's not a recruit. He's a full on soldier, already 25 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: accomplishing so much. Comes to our country from Poland. He 26 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: is a doctor, along with his brother. And yet he 27 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: who comes to this country from another is ready to 28 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: die for the United States. What are we ready to 29 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: do for him? You were just hearing the voice of 30 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: his mother, who, of course, like me, well not miss 31 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: any opportunity to brag about her children. And joining me 32 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: right now is Richard's mother, Patricia Halliday. Father Rob Halliday, 33 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: also with me. James shell Nutt twenty seven years metro 34 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: major case SWAT officer now lawyer at shell nut Lawfirm 35 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: dot com. New York psychologists joining us today from Manhattan, 36 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: Karen Stark at Karen Stark dot com with a c. 37 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, private investigator, former cop at Crispin Special Investigations 38 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: dot com, and Ann Emerson Wcivy, ABC four. First of all, 39 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: to you and Emerson. Before I get to Richard's mother 40 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: and father. What do we know first of all about 41 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: where Richard was stationed? Well, what we know Nancy is 42 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: said he was at Fort Bliss dot in Texas. According 43 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: to reports, twenty one year old Rushard Holiday had been 44 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: in the military as he since for two years and 45 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: just recently returned from Qatar. They certainly do talk about 46 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: his Sellar early military record. And what we understand is 47 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: he was at this at this base at Bois And 48 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about for Board Bliss and 49 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: how big is it? We're exactly is what do we 50 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: know about Fort Bliss? Well, Fort Bliss is certainly one 51 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: of our well regarded army bases in it's near closer 52 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: to El Paso, Texas area. It is a pretty much 53 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a straightforward army base. It's been 54 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: home to the first Armored Division, and it's about it's 55 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: a huge actually, it's one point. I was just about 56 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: to say it's huge. It's about seventeen hundred square miles. 57 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: It may be a little bit bigger than that. And 58 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: it is the largest installation and forst com US Army 59 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: Forces Command, the second largest in the entire Army. To 60 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the parents of Richard Halliday. I want to thank you 61 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: for being with us. First to you his mom, Patricia Halliday. 62 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: I was just going over what you were here, what 63 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you were telling us about Richard. I remember getting my 64 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: children through piano, and I can imagine you giving him 65 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: piano lessons and how smart he is and how you 66 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: took him in brought him from Poland tell me about 67 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: the day you realized Richard is missing. Well, it was 68 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: a horrific day. We hadn't heard from Richard. We had 69 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: thought because he had told us that he was going 70 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: into the field and so we thought we'd give him 71 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of time. What does that day? What 72 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: does that mean he's going into the field. Well, that 73 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: they would, you know, just do maneuvers out in the desert, 74 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: what their equipment and they sleep out there. And in 75 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the US, you know, yes, in the US here at 76 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Poor Bliss, because like you said, I always try to 77 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: tell my friends because we did live in Ireland for 78 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: a bit, I think Fort Bliss is bigger than Ireland. 79 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: So it's a huge, vast post. And on day thirty six, 80 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: my husband finally succumbed to my nagging and called his 81 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: leadership on Patricia I'm so sorry to interrupt you, but 82 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: I want to understand the timeline because I consider that 83 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: very critical and really one of the elementary blocks on 84 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: which he build. In a case, he's so handsome, he 85 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: doesn't even look real. I mean, I'm looking at a 86 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: picture of him right now in his army outfit, and 87 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: he is so proud. He's got some kind of a 88 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: ribbon around his neck where he's obviously won sometimes of 89 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: illegal My dad did that. My dad was proud of him. 90 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Oh look at him, and there he is. That's got 91 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: to be you standing there in a tunic top and 92 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: hugging each other. And I just keep thinking about my 93 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: own son, and honestly, he really doesn't look that much older. 94 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just so handsome and I'm looking at him. 95 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: But back to the timeline. Let me get my mind 96 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: on my own son and back into your son. I 97 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: know you speak to him regularly, but the fact that 98 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: several weeks went by you attributed that to him being 99 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: out in the field. Correct, yes, And also because he 100 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: left his phone in a laundry match, Oh yes, and 101 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: he was using an old his old phone. Crime Stories 102 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace guys Today's program is dear to our hearts. 103 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: We love our military, and right now one of our 104 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: own needs your help. Tipline nine four one seven seven 105 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: zero zero six zero repeat nine four one six seven 106 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: seven zero zero six zero. We're talking about, of course, 107 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: this handsome young man, Richard Halliday, his mom and dad 108 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: with us back to you, Patricia. So when several days 109 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: passing you didn't hear from him, you weren't as worried 110 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: as you normally would have been. So you get your 111 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: husband Rob to call Rob Halliday with us, this is 112 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Richard's dad. How did Patricia get you to start calling? Well, 113 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: you know we're married, she's my wife. I say, let's 114 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: give him some time. He's a single man, he'll get 115 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: a hold of us. He's doing his own thing. He 116 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: could be out training, we don't know. And I'm going 117 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: to give him some time. I'm not going to call 118 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: his boss and check up on him. So, but finally 119 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: I just succumbed to it. So on the twenty eighth 120 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: of August, thirty six days after he went missing, we 121 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: get I call the Italian one four three ADA staff 122 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: duty officer and they passed me to his battery and 123 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: the battery commander says your son is a deserter. Oh, 124 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: dear Lord in heaven, just when you said that, I 125 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: felt chills going down my whole body. A deserter. No, 126 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Richard Halliday is not a deserter. What did you think 127 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: when they said that, Well, my mouth dropped open. I 128 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: think the commander was almost in tears because they had 129 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: a hard time getting hold of us. But they did. 130 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't really try very hard if you 131 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: ask me, you know, because I'm a thirty year veteran 132 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: of the United States Army and in less than one 133 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: minute they can get my phone and number and where 134 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: I live. And Rob, Patricia, let's be real. If we 135 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: can put a man on the moon, they can't find 136 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: your number, really exactly. I mean, we found you. For 137 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Pete's sake, we found you, and we're not the Army 138 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: with all their intel. So there's an example right there. 139 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you, as much as you don't 140 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: want to hear it, Rob, as a trial lawyer, I'm 141 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: telling you they did not try to find you because 142 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: we found right now, back to that moment, then, what happened, Rob, Well, 143 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: you know we were kind of like a deserter. How 144 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: did you bring that to Patricia. I just kind of 145 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: she was across from me because we were working on 146 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: our little business, and she just she couldn't believe it. 147 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. In fact, I stopped kind of 148 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: hearing the commander and talk. Maybe a few more minutes. 149 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: I don't even remember the rest of the conversation, and 150 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: we had to call back. You know what, Rob, But 151 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. When I first started prosecuting, if 152 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: people would tell me they blanked out, I would pooh poo, Right, 153 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: it's just something you don't want to tell me. So 154 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: you're saying you're blanked you blanked out. But that's not true. 155 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: That is not true. Because I've been asked a lot 156 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: of questions about my fiance's murderer, his funeral, the trial 157 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: of the guy that killed him, and Rob, I've got 158 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: to tell you a lot of it, and immediately did 159 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: not remember it. I just guess I don't want to 160 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: remember it. But I hear you. I get it. What 161 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: is that called, Karen Start, you're the psychologist. What is 162 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: it when you don't want to hear something so you 163 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: don't hear it. It's repression and denial, Nancy, It's something 164 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: that's true, painful and huge to hold on to it, 165 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: and so you're unconscious takes over and it minds up 166 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: repressing it so that you sort of know it's there, 167 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: but you don't really or just deny it that it 168 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: ever happens to Patricia Halliday, could you make out what 169 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: they were telling your husband, Rob, that your son's a deserter? 170 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: Was right? Because my husband was mouthing to me. We 171 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: have a desk where it's two sided, so over the 172 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: desk he was mouthing to me what they were saying, 173 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: and it was absolutely shocking. But what shocked me is 174 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: the thirty sixth days because our daughter Hannah, when we 175 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: told her, she goes, Mom, get in the car, hurry up, 176 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: go to all Passo, get Richard, and I'm like, Hannah, 177 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: thirty six days? Where do we start? Thirty six days? 178 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: And that has just echoed in my memory. In my memory, 179 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: the helplessness. That's because we couldn't even file a missing 180 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: person's report. Why why couldn't you Because he was not 181 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: in the jurisdiction of the al Passo Police, and he 182 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: wasn't in the jurisdiction of anyone in Florida where we live. 183 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: And and he was dropped from the rules from the Army. 184 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: The army I had handed off. They didn't you know, 185 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: Oh well, I had told the Stars and Stripes reporter. 186 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: They kind of threw them out like an old shoe, 187 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: you know. At feeling you're talking about of helplessness. I 188 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: remember when I had just floated back to New York, 189 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: home to New York with the twins and had gotten 190 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: them in bed, and I called home and my mom said, 191 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: they want to put your dad on life support. I 192 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: got us all out in the street to hail a 193 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: cab at midnight Patricia, to try to get home. And 194 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: the next let's just say fourteen hours, was just a 195 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: horrible odyssey of trying to get to my dad. I 196 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: didn't know what I was going to be able to 197 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: do when I got to him, but I knew I 198 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything until I got there. So, Patricia, what 199 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: did you guys do? Well, after we got our bearings 200 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: a little bit and no one was willing to help 201 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: except for our family and friends. Um, we took Tom 202 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: to the media. We tried to call media, We started 203 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: our find Richard Howiday Facebook page and just started trying 204 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: to reach out to people and tell our story over 205 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: and over again, and um, I said that this is 206 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: a failure of leadership from the US Army, and that 207 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: got people's attention. So you have to be a little 208 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: bold and fearless. And then um, some people listened to you. 209 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: And that's when the Army came back and contacted us, 210 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: but not um to say that that we were we 211 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: were using bad words like failure in leadership, and it 212 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: was to intimidate us, um not to go to the media. 213 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: And so I'm like, well, then you need to give 214 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: us help. When you said no one was willing to 215 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: help you. But friends and family, did you ask the 216 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: army for details when Richard was last saying and to 217 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: help you find him? Yeah, but they stayed out. Well, 218 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: they said they don't look for a wall or deserters. Um, 219 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: he has a federal worn out further rust. But then 220 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: when they when the media started kicking in, our daughter 221 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: had an Instagram posts that had over forty thousand shares, 222 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: and so they came back and said, okay, well we'll 223 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: we'll give you a gesture, we'll give you the CID, 224 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: but we have a witness saying that he walked away. 225 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: Well that turned out to be a lie. They have 226 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: no one um that I saw them walk away, and 227 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: they also said they knew what he was wearing, but 228 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: that also turned out to be a lie. So you know, 229 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: when so much. Miss Holliday of the Vanessa Gean case 230 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: where Vanessa's sister Myra draw through the night, through the 231 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: night alone the rain, hours and hours drive by herself, 232 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: gets there. They basically turn her away from Fort Hood. 233 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: She goes back and gets misinformation, complete misinformation. Guys, we 234 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: really need your help, and we need it now. Please. 235 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: The tip line is nine four one six seven seven 236 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: zero zero six zero repeat nine four one six seven 237 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: seven zero zero six zero. Crime Stories with Nancy Greece. 238 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: We're trying to find Handsome may not be the right word. 239 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I think he's beautiful. He's perfectly chiseled. This young man 240 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: just just twenty one years old. Deserter, no way, this guy, 241 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: twenty one year old Richard Halliday, No. Number one in 242 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: his entire basic training class number one in the AI, 243 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: the individual training number one. Somebody that works that hard 244 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: is not gonna then turn around and dessert that did 245 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: not happen. Their mother, his mother and father are pleading 246 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: for your help and I am joining them. How many 247 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: young people in our military must die or go missing 248 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: before they get it. We need help from the military, 249 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: and we need your help. Straight back to you and 250 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Emerson WIV ABC four and what can you tell me? Now? 251 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: We hear the mother, Patricia Halliday talking about the army 252 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: stating he was seeing quote walking away that turned out 253 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: to be not true. First of all, I want you 254 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: to take a list of our friend Naticia Paloma at KTSM. 255 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: After getting back from deployment. The COVID nineteen pandemic hit 256 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: and has changed. Thirty sixth days went by. We didn't 257 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: hear from him, something the parents say Richard would never do. 258 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Richard's father calling for Bliss only to find out his 259 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: son was gone thirty six days. What do we do? 260 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: Where do we go? You know? Thirty six days for 261 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: Bliss telling the family the soldier went a wall or 262 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: absent without leave. They say the military never reached out 263 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: to too. It took like two days to being things through. 264 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Start calling people, you know. I also want you to 265 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: hear this. Our friends at KFOX take a listen. Richard 266 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: Holliday was last seen by other soldiers out for Bliss 267 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: on July twenty fourth. His mother, Patricia says they didn't 268 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: know he was missing until more than a month later, 269 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: when she contacted his unit. On August twenty eighth, the 270 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: Holidays drove more than twenty hours from Saraso to Florida 271 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: to Olpasso, and for the past two weeks they've been 272 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: holding demonstrations and rallies to raise awareness about his disappearance. 273 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: The family is now searching across the border into what 274 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: is filing a missing person's record with the Chihuahua Attorney 275 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: General's office. Here in ol Passo, they met with Congresswoman 276 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: Bronicat Escobar. They see. Their meeting was very productive and 277 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: then she'll be helping with the search and we are 278 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: really I'm very excited that Representative Escobar is going to 279 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: come to one of our candle rallies, candle rallies, tiplines, 280 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: Facebook pages. But still no spottings of Richard Halliday that 281 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: can be believed An Emerson WCIV. What do you know 282 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: what about that last sighting? Well, what we've heard so 283 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: far is that there are a couple of things that 284 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: have happened. One is that when they first started investigating 285 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: the CID, which is the Criminal Investigation Division for the Army. 286 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: The Special Agents took over on September first. They did 287 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: conduct an in depth, according to them, in depth forensic search, 288 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: said that they found nothing that suggested foul play. Now 289 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: they also have done searches with they said to two 290 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: hundred members of the military joined them in twenty miles 291 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: of trails in the Franklin Mountain State Park and another 292 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: trail near Fort Bliss. They'd gone through eighty barracks to 293 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: just kind of talk about what, you know, the extent 294 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: that they say that they've been through, as well as 295 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: looked at surrounding homes that are around the Fort Bliss area. 296 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: What's particularly concerning is that about about three weeks later, 297 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: a spokesperson for the Army came back and said there's 298 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: new evidence to suggest he may have left the base 299 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: earlier than thought, which would have been July twenty third. 300 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: That was the date. Don't they call Muster, I mean, 301 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: don't they know to you, Rob Halliday, you're Richard's dad, 302 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: but you're a thirty year veteran. Don't they call Muster 303 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: and know who's there and who's not there. Yes, they 304 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: usually have formations depending on the company or the battery 305 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: level and their routine. You know, when I was in 306 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: the military, we'd have three a day. But I don't 307 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: know what they what Richard was doing because we never 308 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: talked that. So, but yeah, they usually have at least 309 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: one formation a day at the beginning, or they not 310 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: know the last day he was there. Well, you know, 311 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: there's things you can think about. But are they covering 312 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: up something? I mean, somebody saw him. I mean he 313 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: was under escort twenty four to seven because he was 314 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: they were putting him out of the army. So there's 315 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different scenarios or courses of action. But 316 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: but you know, we're not told anything. Well, I don't 317 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: understand what you mean he was under escort. Well, we 318 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: were told because you know, uh, you know, there's a 319 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: lot of things we didn't know about Richard from January 320 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: till now, things that happened to him, And we did 321 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: know that when he was in Qatar. You know, I 322 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: talked to him a lot, and he had some concerns 323 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: about leadership and he was really thinking about getting out 324 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: of the military. Now, this is the guy that was 325 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: doing really, really really well. You know, he had three 326 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: Army achievement medals in less than fourteen months, you know. 327 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get an Army Achievement medal until 328 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: about fifth or six a year in the service. So 329 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: he was and then all of a sudden it just 330 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: changed because I don't know if he noticed something or 331 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: he you know, uh, well with his leadership. He didn't 332 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: mention any kind of other things other than leadership, and 333 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: he kind of still talked that when he got back 334 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: from Cutter. You know, he did visit us last August 335 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: after his return from his deployment. He was there for 336 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: about eight days and then he went back to He 337 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: first started as saying he was having concerns with leadership. 338 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: He was in Cutter at the time, yes, ma'am. Interesting, 339 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: so it seems to me that he may have voiced 340 00:22:47,200 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: those concerns and now he's missing climb Store's with Nancy Greece. 341 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: Richard Halliday has a certain clearance. He's done very, very 342 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: well in the Army, and even though he's been upset 343 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: with some of the leadership decisions. I find it very 344 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: difficult to believe that he would ate dessert when he 345 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: could have very easily left at the end of a 346 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: term and be not contact his parents. Patricia Halliday, this 347 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: is Richard's mother who is joining us today to try 348 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: to help find her son. Put yourself at her shoes 349 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: for a moment. Think about it. Your son goes missing 350 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: and you don't find out for thirty six days, Patricia, 351 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: didn't You guys have a rule of sword set at 352 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: the very least every two weeks. He would check in, 353 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: and it was two weeks because you don't know what 354 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: assignment he would have been sent on. And he had 355 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: always done that correct absolutely. And the Army has a 356 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: standard operating procedure to notify family or closest relative when 357 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: a soldier goes missing right after twenty four hours and 358 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: then two weeks after, it's their duty to send a 359 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: letter to the address. Also, you know I'm saying, can happen? Yeah, 360 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: none of that happened. So they broke their own protocol, 361 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: which tells me we're not getting a true story. Guys, 362 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to a public 363 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: service announcement. My name is Breader General Dave Stewart, the 364 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: thirty second Army Heir and Missile Defense Commanding General. Here 365 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: on Fort Bliss, Mister and missus Halliday are looking for 366 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: their son and our soldier, Private Richard Halliday. He was 367 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: last seen on Fort Bliss July twenty third. Yes, I'm 368 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Rob Holliday, the Richard's father, and yes, I fishes believe 369 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: our son maybe in the l Passo or Greater l 370 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Passo area. He is twenty one years old, five feet 371 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: nine inches tall, weight of one hundred and sixty pounds, 372 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: with black hair and hazel eyes. Straight out to Rob Halliday, 373 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: this is Richard's father. I noticed then when the Brigadier 374 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: General Dave Stewart was speaking, he said, our soldier, that 375 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he's talking about a deserter. To me, well, yes, uh, 376 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: things change when we got here, and they did, uh 377 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: for lack of federal words passed by us with changing 378 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: his status or adding to his status missing along with it. 379 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: But they never removed the desertion because you know, there 380 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: has to be a well I guess they don't have 381 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: to be a crime, but you know, it is the 382 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: Criminal Investigation Division, so there needs to be a crime, 383 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: and his crime was desertion, so they so then that 384 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: helps with their investigation. Where is this coming from? An 385 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Emerson w CIV ABC four that he was last seeing 386 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: in El Paso. Where is that information coming from. Well, 387 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: there is a claim as well that there's a woman 388 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: who who said that she saw the credit card of 389 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: Richard Halliday when she was with another soldier. UM, there 390 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: was this claim was made that when she talked to 391 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: the to this other soldier, that he told her that 392 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: Holliday had fled the country and was in Cancoon with 393 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: a girlfriend. That was one of the reasons from what 394 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: I understand, that this search was extended into Mexico. And 395 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: this claim was just a month ago in October, so 396 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: that was part of how this has started to extend. 397 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: There's been several sightings. I mean when you when we 398 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: talked about El Paso, UM, you know, when this started 399 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: finally getting into the hands of law enforcement in the area, 400 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: they were getting people to come forward who said that 401 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: they possibly saw Richard Halliday in that area. So that's 402 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: where that's where those sort of claims. It's running bus 403 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: because people are speaking up. I got it, guys. Take 404 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Natasha Paloma, Katie sm I'll 405 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: cut sixteen order and meal or Huban Hissuari Probert carts 406 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: go in that mess of credit cards. Jane says she 407 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: noticed a blue and white one with a familiar name, 408 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: Howidy last name Monday, He'd say, or I need you 409 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: hide this one. I say, why, said, because it's from 410 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: a missing soldier. Jane tells us the soldier remained calm 411 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: and relaxed and told her Richard Halliday had fled to 412 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: Cancoun with his girlfriend. She says, the soldier told her 413 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: he was doing Halliday a favored looking for him, so 414 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: I need to use them here in order for the 415 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: military to think that he's still here. We did reach 416 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: out to CID or, the Army's Criminal Investigation Command. They 417 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: sent us a statement that said, in part quote, we 418 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: are fully aware of the allegations and have conducted extensive 419 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: investigative activity surrounding the allegations and continue to do so. 420 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: To Rob Holliday, this is Richard's father, Rob, how can 421 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: I understand that some of the sidings are overlapping, that 422 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: there's an allegation that he's in Cancoon with a woman, 423 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: but yet there are sidings of him in al Paso 424 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: and none of it has been verified to my understanding. Well, 425 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: that's correct. There there's been uh, there's been sightings of 426 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: a of a of a gentleman that looks like Richard. 427 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: Now we've seen some pictures of these and there's no 428 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: way that they are Richard, but many of them don't. 429 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: We don't have any proof. So, like UH was said, 430 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: most of the leads are in uh or as right now, 431 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: and UH not much happening at Fort Bliss where he 432 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: was last seen, not really all pass though now it 433 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: was Fort Bliss proper. Someone probably the last person. We 434 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: don't know a name because CID won't give us any 435 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: info because they're investigating. They don't give us anything except, 436 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe some results of all the many subpoenas 437 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: and warrants they've done to try to get information about Richard. 438 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: But we don't know who saw him last. It's probably 439 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: one of his escorts, understand So the last confirmed sighting 440 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: he was on Fort Bliss, correct. I mean, if you're so, 441 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: we'll call you practically every day, all the way from Cutter. 442 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: You don't think, Patricia, he would call from Cancaan. I 443 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: don't believe for a minute that he's in Cancoon, even 444 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: though I would hope. I would be happy if that 445 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: was the case, because that would mean he's alive. But 446 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: because of our rewards and also the military reward of 447 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars all in thirty seven thousand dollars right, yes, 448 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars exactly. And so people were calling in, 449 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, with any kind of siding, and Richard looks 450 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: a little Puerto Rican, so he blends in really well 451 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: in Warrez and in this Elpaso area. So that's why 452 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: we receive those kind of calls. There is a twenty 453 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars reward from the military, a twelve thousand 454 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: dollars we war put up by the family. They have 455 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: traveled to the location or desperately looking for their son. 456 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Won't you please help them? Go online? Look Richard Halliday, 457 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: and you guys have made a Facebook page. It's that correct, Patricia, Yes, 458 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: find Richard Halliday. And we have a petition right now 459 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: to change his designation, which they the Army did, um do. 460 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: We'll find out more today they made They designated him 461 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: as just one, which is more of a casualty designation. 462 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: But they will let us know more about that because 463 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: this is that the precedent, he's the first conas soldier 464 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: was with that designation. So we're trying to um Patricia, 465 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: I guess try to get them to do their duty 466 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: and find our sons. Go to find Word of Holliday 467 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: online or to climb online dot com for more on 468 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: Richard Halliday, Patricia, When you wake up first thing in 469 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: the morning, do you ever forget, just for a few seconds, 470 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: that Richard has gone? No. I run down to the 471 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: computer in my pad and write on everything that I 472 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: was thinking of during the night. You're all consuming, rob 473 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: How do you guys even put your head on the 474 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: pillow knowing that Richard is missing? Well, there's only one way. 475 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: There's our trying. God's number one in our lives. We've 476 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: had a lot of help from the church here, and 477 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: we receive a lot of prayers from not only pastlings 478 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: but citizens of Mexico there in Warez. These many rallies 479 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: has helped out. But prayer and going to God with 480 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: prayer gives give us strengthened and energy to keep moving forward. 481 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: But but it is very hard, it's very time consuming 482 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: to get motivated to stay active. It's like, uh, you know, 483 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: for lack of better words, Robin pat is really leading 484 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: this investigation, not the c I D. They're waiting for 485 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: leads from us you know, I know they're doing some work, 486 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean and it's safe to say that. 487 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, if the army after twenty four hours says 488 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: a soldier is or female male is a wall and 489 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: then thirty days later as a deserter, they have no 490 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: experience in how to find a missing soldier unless unless 491 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: it's uh uh somebody and during the time of war 492 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: and conflict, they'll send a bunch of folks out with 493 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: what they do with this dust one okonas which dust 494 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: one is an acronym meaning a duty status whereabouts unknown 495 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: and uh and nell search real heart, spend a lot 496 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: of money, you know, but it's it's kind of a 497 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: day late, the dollars short from Iceland. But if this 498 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: goes forward, it's great for future things that happen with 499 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: soldiers uh to to actively spend some time and money 500 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: in search and then label him or her an a 501 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: wall soldier. But for Richard, the search could have been 502 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: taken seriously. I didn't even call mom and dad, so 503 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why, Miss Halliday. What more can you 504 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: tell us? Well, um, we have um information now from 505 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: three sources that said that um, there was some extortion 506 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: going on in the barracks that if you wanted to 507 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: leave the barracks because of these uh sickness measures that 508 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: you had to you had to pay the CQUM and 509 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: that could range up to eighty dollars. And some soldiers 510 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to pay that eighty dollars, so they went 511 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: out the back door to have a little freedom in 512 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: their own country. So um, you know, so there was 513 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot of new developments why 514 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: he was being harassed. Were even really complaining about this 515 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: article fifteen that they had against him. That is a 516 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: bunch of garbage. It's souped sandwich. So um and if 517 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: and they are investigating because my husband sent to email 518 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: all the way up to General McConville about the sources 519 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: of what was going on in that unit. And they're 520 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: investigating that unit right now. So we have names, we 521 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: have even as high as as a lieutenant colonel participating 522 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: and this extortion of the soldiers being locked in shelter 523 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: and place in the barracks. Guys plays the tip line 524 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: nine four one six seven seven zero zero six zero 525 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off goodbye friend,