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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this right now. This is not the

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Speaker 2: First off, good evening to my man Aaron Torres, who

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Speaker 2: I do not get to talk too often, but I'm

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Speaker 2: really looking forward to talking to tonight. How are you, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard?

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Speaker 3: I am doing well. It is a pleasure to sit

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Speaker 3: in free from Salama. I know that's your normal Sunday

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Speaker 3: co host pleasure is mine and to be outside of

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Speaker 3: you now.

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Speaker 4: Hate to brag. I did pick the Eagles to win

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Speaker 4: this game, but I did not pick it. I didn't

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Speaker 4: pick them to win by whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: By however many it was, I can't say I saw

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Speaker 4: So the pleasure is mine.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, and I'm excited to do

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Speaker 3: this over the next four three hours.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what. Yeah, me too, and let me

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Speaker 2: start with this. And all I can do is state

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Speaker 2: that it is still a little bit of a state

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Speaker 2: reaction eron I watched that game and I went, that's

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Speaker 2: kind of what I expected to happen to the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: at some point all year long. But it never did. Sure,

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Speaker 2: and then it did. Do you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like we did this. I don't know where you were

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Speaker 2: in the season when we kind of gave up. We

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Speaker 2: field goals at the end of games. And we got

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Speaker 2: like all of the quote unquote lucky victories, and somewhere

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Speaker 2: about like four or five weeks ago, we left our point.

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Speaker 2: We left it at the altar, and our point was, man,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get there is one of these weeks somebody

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Speaker 2: got to the playoffs, they had home field advantage, they

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Speaker 2: And so we went into this game like why I

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Speaker 2: ain't betting against the Chiefs. You can but and Aaron,

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Speaker 2: like you said, and my daughter will attest to this.

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Speaker 2: We went to the dog park this afternoon and I

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Speaker 2: I'm betting it. I'm not betting against the Chiefs. Like

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Speaker 2: I've learned my lesson. But then finally what I thought

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Speaker 4: So let me ask, actually a question.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna go with a question here, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you hear this a lot in sports is when a

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Speaker 4: The worst thing to get your humble pie.

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Speaker 3: Now I want to ask you if say, you know,

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Speaker 4: But let's just say hypothetically.

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Speaker 3: A week fifteen sixteen, they played the Chargers, they win

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Speaker 3: you think that would have better prepared them for this moment?

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Speaker 3: Or do you think with the way that Philadelphia dominated,

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Speaker 2: I think that they're both really really fair questions. I

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Speaker 2: like you got served across the board in that game.

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Speaker 2: But I still think that your original question is valid,

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Speaker 2: There's probably something to that. Yes, there's probably something to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I tend to agree with you is I

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Speaker 3: I did not see this result coming. But the reason

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Speaker 3: Think it's easy to say now oh like like, And

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Speaker 3: You know, Mahomes had no time at all at any

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Speaker 3: So you know, I know we're gonna have a million

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Speaker 3: different mindset. I just think Philadelphia was essentially better at

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Speaker 4: I think they're just better.

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Speaker 3: And so to wrap on that part of the conversation,

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is different if Casey had taken

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, and brother, I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 2: When I watched I turned on the pregame show and

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Speaker 2: my goodness, you could not have given off a more

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Speaker 2: different vibe than what Patrick Mahomes did versus what Saquon

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Speaker 2: been here I have done this. There is nobody in

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Speaker 2: the Eagles wanted it more. But the Eagles came out

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Speaker 2: really edgy. I thought they came out like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts converts on a third and long. Then they

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Speaker 2: that was interesting the way they handled it. But let's

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Speaker 2: is pretty special. The Eagles are Super Bowl champs and

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Speaker 2: they're leading tackler in the game. Zach Bond joins us

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Speaker 2: now live on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Willard, Aaron Torres, Zach,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on. Congratulations, Thank you very much. Take

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Speaker 2: as ud throne. I mean, sure, you're super Bowl champs,

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Speaker 2: but it's not just that, it's also who you took down,

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I can't really under I can't really hear you.

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Speaker 5: I don't you're really fuzzy cutting out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm saying that. That's okay. Can you hear me

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Speaker 5: I can't really hear let me, can you, Zach?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Is this

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Speaker 2: Zach?

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Speaker 4: Can you hear us? Zach Bond well caught up in

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Speaker 2: Well, there it is Zach Bond on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: He's speechlessly. It's safe to say that Eagles are speechless.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, one thing I know, and I've done this

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Speaker 2: sometimes that happens. Sometimes it goes that way, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: But but anyway, what I was going to say is

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Speaker 2: the Eagles go for it there on fourth down. They convert.

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Speaker 2: Then there was a ridiculous call by the officials, and

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Speaker 2: so it was that gut punched right away. But my god,

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Speaker 2: they handled it well. They handled it so well, and

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Speaker 2: to me, that was a precursor. That was a sign

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, Willard, because you know

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Speaker 2: Well, this was kind of the Chiefs song for a minute.

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Speaker 2: When did it feel like that was for sure a

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Speaker 2: How dare I'm a Chiefs hater just like the rest.

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Speaker 3: that you had while shooting that video this morning, and

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Speaker 3: you nailed the Saquon prediction.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. You look like you're in the

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Speaker 4: Sequoias or something.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's we We live in a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: wooded area and that that's yeah, that's that's it's my

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Speaker 2: deck out there.

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Speaker 6: We do.

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Speaker 2: We have a nice view, Thank you very much. Yeah. Yeah, Actually,

446
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Speaker 2: you know what, I had two I want to complain

447
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Speaker 2: about this for two seconds on the other side of

448
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Speaker 2: Steve de Seger because I had two two three picks

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Speaker 2: and I got one right and I only missed one

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Speaker 2: in the other one, and I'm playing the refs for it.

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Speaker 4: They were off the hook the Chiefs finally lost.

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Speaker 2: No, nope, no, the refs are not off the hook,

453
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Speaker 2: and neither is Steve de Seger. He's got to talk now.

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Speaker 7: By the way, for all the favoritism, Philadelphia has now

455
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Speaker 7: had fewer penalty yards than its opponent in nine straight games.

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Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles clearly clearly.

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Speaker 2: In on the Eagles. Surely I've been saying it all.

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Speaker 7: You super Bowl fifty nine to Philadelphia, forty to twenty

459
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Speaker 7: two over Kansas City. You're right, it wasn't that close.

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Speaker 7: You talked about the pressure Mahomes felt. The Eagles did

461
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Speaker 7: not blitz once, and he drove back to pass over

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Speaker 7: forty times. At one point it was half his dropbacks.

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Speaker 7: He was getting pressure. The Chiefs wound up calling seven

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Speaker 7: design run plays the entire night. Neither team's running backs

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Speaker 7: did much of anything but kse my Goodness seven carries

466
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Speaker 7: total from the three running backs. The two running backs

467
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Speaker 7: from Philadelphia combined for thirty one carries, just sixty seven yards.

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Speaker 7: Nick Sirianni is a Super Bowl champion and in fact,

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Speaker 7: the first head coach in the history of the NFL

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Speaker 7: to win a title game where the opposing coach was

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Speaker 7: at least twenty years older than he was. Head coaches

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Speaker 7: had been winless oh to eight all time when facing

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Speaker 7: the other coach at twenty plus years older than you

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Speaker 7: in a title game, going back even before the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: So Patrick Mahomes takes an l in the big game.

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Speaker 7: He's three and two in Super Bowls in his career.

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Speaker 7: Another way to put it, my goodness, he's only twenty

478
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Speaker 7: nine and he's been in five Super Bowls already. Kansas

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Speaker 7: City finishes seventeen to three, but Mahomes committed three turnovers,

480
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Speaker 7: did have three touchdown passes too late in the game.

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Speaker 7: Mahomes was sacked six times. The Chiefs offense thirteen drives,

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Speaker 7: twelve first downs. Eagles led thirty four to nothing late

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Speaker 7: in the third quarter. Xavier Worthy did wind up with

484
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Speaker 7: eight receptions one hundred and fifty seven yards and two scores.

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Speaker 7: But your Super Bowl MVP Jalen Hurts of the Eagles

486
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Speaker 7: three total touchdowns. He had eleven carries seventy two yards.

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Speaker 7: That's a Super Bowl record for a quarterback. Rushing Sakuon

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Speaker 7: Barkley with not much on the ground, but did have

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Speaker 7: six catches forty yards Jake Elliott four for four on

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Speaker 7: field goals. The Eagles finished eighteen and three, and remember

491
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Speaker 7: they completely dominated the NFC title game against Washington. It

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Speaker 7: was fifty five to twenty three and the Eagles were

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Speaker 7: averaging seven yards per play on that game. Those fifty

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Speaker 7: five points previous game were the most ever by any

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Speaker 7: team in a conference title game. This was the number

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Speaker 7: one rank defense in the entire regular season, and they

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Speaker 7: were missing linebacker Nakobe Dean out for the post scene

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Speaker 7: with a torn pateeller tendon.

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Speaker 4: They were great.

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Speaker 7: It's quite the combination, very rare where you're a team

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Speaker 7: that in one season you are number umber one in

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Speaker 7: total defense and you have the league's top rusher. The

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Speaker 7: only other team in the Super Bowl era that had

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Speaker 7: both the same year Emmett Smith and Dallas nineteen ninety

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Speaker 7: two when they won the Super Bowl. The Eagles are

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Speaker 7: the first NFC team to go to three Super Bowls

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Speaker 7: now in a span of eight years since those Cowboy

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Speaker 7: teams back in the nineteen nineties. This Super Bowl was

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Speaker 7: played in New Orleans, so it was Philly's first game

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Speaker 7: outside of Philadelphia since before Christmas. They had gone five

511
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Speaker 7: straight Sundays at home, and next year's Super Bowl will

512
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Speaker 7: be in Santa Clair the forty nine Ers Stadium, which

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Speaker 7: has hosted one Big Game prior. In two years, the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl will be at the Rams Stadium in Inglewood, California,

515
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Speaker 7: which has hosted one Super Bowl prior, and in twenty

516
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Speaker 7: twenty eight, the Atlanta Falcons Stadium or Cities Benz Stadium

517
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Speaker 7: will be hosting Super Bowl sixty two. That stadium has

518
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Speaker 7: hosted one. New Orleans congratulations as host city this past week,

519
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Speaker 7: the city hosting a Super Bowl for its eleventh time,

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Speaker 7: the first three at Tulane, most recent at Superdome, of course,

521
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Speaker 7: was the one where the Lake went out about a

522
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Speaker 7: decade ago Super Bowl fifty nine to eight blowout. That

523
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Speaker 7: first half, it was twenty four to nothing at the half,

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Speaker 7: twenty three total yards net for Kansas City. In other words,

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Speaker 7: they had fewer yards than the Eagles had points in

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Speaker 7: the first half twenty plays twenty three yards as Mahomes

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Speaker 7: was sacked three times in the first half, had the

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Speaker 7: pick six two interceptions total, it was thirteen first downs

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Speaker 7: to one at the halftime break. The Chiefs had one

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Speaker 7: first down in the first half. That hadn't happened in

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Speaker 7: a Super Bowl since New England had to face the

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Speaker 7: Bears defense and got blown out in a Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: in the mid eighties. By late third quarter, the Jalen

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Speaker 7: Hurts long touchdown pass made it thirty four to nothing.

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Speaker 7: That was right after the defense got a fourth downstop

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Speaker 7: against KC And by the way, as we head to

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Speaker 7: next season, two items. The New Orleans Saints will be

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Speaker 7: meeting with Kellen Moore again now that the Super Bowl's over.

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Speaker 7: They've already interviewed him twice for their head coach opening.

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Speaker 7: It sounds like the job is his. He's been Eagles

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Speaker 7: offensive coordinator, a former austint with the Chargers in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: And we'll find out the exact NFL schedule for everyone,

543
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Speaker 7: probably in May. But we do know teams, opponents, and

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Speaker 7: we do know Philadelphia will play at Kansas City next season.

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Speaker 7: As far as Philadelphia home games next year, they'll be

546
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Speaker 7: hosting Detroit and the Rams, but Philadelphia will have the

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Speaker 7: road game at Kansas City, a road game at Buffalo.

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Speaker 7: They'll be playing at Green Bay, at Tampa Bay, at Minnesota. No,

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Speaker 7: they won't be getting a last play schedule. The defending

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl Champs. There will be a lot of international

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Speaker 7: games next year. The coltser be playing in Berlin, Dolphins

552
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Speaker 7: will be in Madrid next season, Steelers a game in Ireland.

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Speaker 7: Browns will be in London for a game next season,

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Speaker 7: along with Jacksonville overseas, Jets overseas.

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Speaker 2: So a lot to look forward to.

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Speaker 7: NBA injury news, Anthony Davis, hurt in his first game

557
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Speaker 7: with Dallas, could miss multiple weeks with an adductor strain.

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Speaker 7: Giannis Antenakumpo of Milwaukee will be out through the All

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Speaker 7: Star break next weekend with a sore calf. They didn't

560
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Speaker 7: need him. Today beat Philadelphias. Damian Lillard scored forty three points.

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Speaker 7: Women's hoops UCLA ranked number one is twenty three and

562
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Speaker 7: oh after winning at Oregon, but number two South Carolina

563
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Speaker 7: lost at number four ranked Texas sixty six to sixty two.

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Speaker 7: South Carolina had won fifty seven straight conference games. And

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Speaker 7: if you saw the Jay Glazer report on Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: pregame on Fox TV, the Jets are moving on from

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Speaker 7: quarterback Aaron Rodgers. He met with the team this past week.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, okay, I think we'd love to talk

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Speaker 2: about each and every one of those things. Let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this though, real quick air Have you ever

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Speaker 2: been to New Orleans? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I have, And I'll say this really quick to Sega

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Speaker 3: and I talked a little bit about this with Dan

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Speaker 3: Byer last night. You know, I've seen the reports of

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Speaker 3: you know, has the Super Bowl outgrown that city?

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Speaker 4: I hope not, because it is one of the great, great,

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Speaker 4: great cities we have in America.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I've never gotten the chance to go

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Speaker 2: really crazy. I've had trips planning there multiple times, and

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Speaker 2: for one reason or another, they've fallen through. I've never been,

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Speaker 2: but I heard the opposite all week. I heard more

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Speaker 2: people say, why isn't the super Bowl here at Oh? Yeah, no, No.

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Speaker 4: And just to be clear, I think everybody that goes

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Speaker 4: loves it.

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Speaker 3: But we've obviously heard all the stories about the price

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Speaker 3: of hotel rooms, and you know, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: that goes has an issue with it. What I would say, Willard,

588
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Speaker 3: is the thing about New Orleans. I don't think people,

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Speaker 3: if you've never been, you appreciate. You hear about Bourbon Street,

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Speaker 3: you hear about the jazz clubs, this, and that the

591
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Speaker 3: food is unbelievable. Right on the golf there. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what the golf of what. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: we're calling it these days. I think there might be

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Speaker 3: a name change in the works. But I just bring

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Speaker 3: it up because I'll tell you what. The last time

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Speaker 3: I was there the Final four and twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: But I bring it up because the first two nights

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Speaker 3: I was there, literally you know, you go to media

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Speaker 3: stuff all day.

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Speaker 4: I would come out hungry. I would literally go go

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Speaker 4: get dinner just by myself. I was like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go get some food. You end up oring a bunch

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Speaker 4: of food.

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Speaker 3: I went back to the room and went to bed

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Speaker 3: both nights, and so I didn't experience too much Bourbon Street,

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Speaker 3: but it was because the food was so good.

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Speaker 4: But it's incredible city.

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Speaker 2: Eight yourself to sleep. That's that's one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: things to do, especially on a Super Bowl Sunday, by

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Speaker 2: the way. But then again, my food was out early

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Speaker 2: at my place because everyone was so bored. They just ate,

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Speaker 2: like we got to eat, like this game's over. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: tyreck dot Com Studios, I've got a question for you.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I want to get this off my chest first.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I got wrong today was I had

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown, I think higher than sixty eight yards and

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Speaker 2: this is going to be all.

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Speaker 4: I know where you're going to keep good.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, let me read something to you that DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Hopkins just said after the game. Are you ready for

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Speaker 2: this quote? I saw a lot of things in the

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Speaker 2: media about the refs, but obviously, bleep what you're all

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Speaker 2: going to say now about the refs. There were a

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Speaker 2: lot of touchy calls. Are you all going to report that?

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Speaker 2: Are you all going to talk about the rest now?

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Speaker 2: End quote? Well, DeAndre, yes, yes we are. And it's

627
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Speaker 2: not because today ended up being a day where the

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Speaker 2: refs ruined it in favor of the Chiefs. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: you were so outplayed that the refs were thankfully taken

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Speaker 2: out of this thing. But if the Eagles fans had

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Speaker 2: any frustrating moments tonight at all, that came on their

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Speaker 2: opening drive fourth and two, they opt to go for it.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts throws a dot down the right sideline to

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown. Perfect catch goes for over thirty yards. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he would have had well over seventy yards if that

636
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Speaker 2: play was allowed to stand. But no, we got ourselves

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Speaker 2: all up and involved in a play that we had

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Speaker 2: no business getting involved in and called, quite frankly, one

639
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Speaker 2: of the worst offensive PI calls I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life. Now this is no longer about the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: because they lost by double digits. What this is just about, though, Aaron,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand what the league can do about what

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Speaker 2: feels like a rise in head scratching judgment calls that

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Speaker 2: are very easily avoided.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask, I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think it feels like there's more judgment

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Speaker 3: calls just because you know, as a society, maybe we're

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Speaker 3: paying a little bit closer attention because we have actual

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Speaker 3: money on the line here.

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Speaker 2: Or because we have twelve angles and we've got so

651
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Speaker 2: much more access and we're a faster moving group and

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Speaker 2: all of those things. Or maybe it's also just our

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Speaker 2: entry point because in all of our sports now we

654
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Speaker 2: have review. Sure, we have review, We have review on this,

655
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Speaker 2: review on that, baseball, basketball, we have review. And so

656
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: it becomes, I think, increasingly difficult when we can see

657
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Speaker 2: something that looks obvious to us and we don't get

658
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Speaker 2: it right. We don't handle that well anymore. We used

659
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Speaker 2: to think that that was part of the game.

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Speaker 4: We don't like it anymore, that's fair. And you know, again,

661
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Speaker 4: you know, first of all, the call was brutal to

662
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Speaker 4: open the game.

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Speaker 2: Call. No.

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Speaker 3: All I was gonna say is I'm just glad it

665
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Speaker 3: had no impact on the final score result because it certainly,

666
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Speaker 3: you know, if it had been a close game or

667
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Speaker 3: a one score game or whatever. And obviously I'm guessing

668
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: everybody listening saw the play, but it was early, I

669
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Speaker 3: would have certainly put the Eagles easily in field goal range.

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Speaker 4: If not, you know, with a chance to score a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: You know, they took points off the board from Philadelphia essentially,

672
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Speaker 3: So I'm glad it didn't make an impact. But now

673
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Speaker 3: I'm with you, is it feels like it's happening more

674
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Speaker 3: and again, I don't know to your point, if we're

675
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Speaker 3: hyper conscious because of the betting angle, if it's because

676
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: the technology is so good, if it's because you know,

677
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Speaker 3: we were It's just a review in general really bothers me.

678
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Speaker 3: So it's I don't want to go too far in

679
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: on the review stuff, because that's a different conversation. This

680
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: wasn't a review, obviously, but I just bring it up

681
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: to say it was a brutal call. I'm glad it

682
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: didn't impact the game, but I could understand your frustration

683
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: not only if you're a gambler or this, or you're that,

684
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: just essentially if you're a Philly fan whatever, because it

685
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 3: was a brutal call to take points off the board.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and yes it cost me a hundred bucks.

687
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Mark Willard, Aaron Torres, and I got this

688
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Speaker 2: question for you coming up next, because we do this

689
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: every Super Bowl. Once someone wins, we go, oh, well

690
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: that's how you play football best and win like that's

691
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Speaker 2: now what matters. I'd like to know what you think

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Speaker 2: we learned from this twenty twenty four twenty five season

693
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Speaker 2: based on how it ended. We'll get to that coming

694
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Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Okay, these arethetie rack dot com studios. That is eron tooys.

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Speaker 2: I am Mark Willard. The Eagles are your champs. There

701
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: will be no three pete, not now and probably not

702
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: anytime soon, maybe not ever. Is real hard to do, man,

703
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: it's real hard to do. And to me, I know

704
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: it's cliched to say, oh, the Eagles look like they

705
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: wanted it more. I don't know if they wanted it more.

706
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Speaker 2: I've just always thought this, like, the have nots are

707
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: always going to be a little bit more kind of

708
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: fired up and desiring than the haves. That's just life.

709
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're talking about football or food, money, whatever,

710
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: like that's just kind of the way it is. And

711
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 2: it does not mean that the have not is always

712
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: going to win. But my god, when I looked at

713
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Speaker 2: it today, Aaron, it looked to me like the Chiefs

714
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: were just a little bit too like, yep, formulaic, this

715
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: is what we do. Second Sunday in February. We've got

716
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: a football game. Meantime, the Eagles were all in heart, mind, body, spirit,

717
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Speaker 2: everything well.

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Speaker 3: And I think sometimes the thing that makes you great

719
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: in who you are can ultimately come back to bite you.

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Speaker 3: And I think there was I mean, even in the

721
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: first half of you down seventeen to nothing and it

722
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Speaker 3: was oh, I mean, well, you know, you looked at

723
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: the sideline and I think there was some dejection, but

724
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Speaker 3: I think there was kind of this oh, you know,

725
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Speaker 3: we'll do this because it's what we always do. We

726
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: fall down, it happens, we'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: Da da dah.

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Speaker 3: And it just it didn't happen. And listen again. You

729
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: and I've been covering sports for a long time. We've

730
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: seen great teams, bad teams, whatever. But but there have

731
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: been plenty of teams that it feels like they kind

732
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: of make it a habit of you know, kind of

733
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Speaker 3: playing their B plus game and they always get away

734
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Speaker 3: with it. I know we talked about this to lead

735
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Speaker 3: the show, but you know, I think that there was

736
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Speaker 3: just a belief, even from the chiefs, of like this

737
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: is what we do. We're gonna come back, and it's like, no, no,

738
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 3: that other team is really good. They're not afraid. They're

739
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: beating the crap out of you. And it didn't really

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Speaker 3: feel like until some point in the second half when

741
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: they cut to the sidelines. And I think the only

742
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: way you could describe it is total disbelief, because, like

743
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Speaker 3: I said, I just think the thing that made Philly

744
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: or the thing that made KC case this year specifically

745
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: and really maybe the last couple of years is no

746
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: deficits too big, nothing to worry about.

747
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Speaker 4: We got this.

748
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Speaker 3: As you said earlier, Joe Cool, We're gonna be fine.

749
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Speaker 3: And that's just a dangerous way to live, you know,

750
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Speaker 3: falling down double figures or assuming you're gonna win a

751
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Speaker 3: one score game.

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Speaker 4: It's always a little bit more complicated than.

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Speaker 2: That, no doubt, no doubt. So I do I want

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00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: to ask you this, and that is when you look

755
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: now at the way the Chiefs actually got dethroned, what

756
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Speaker 2: do you think we learned? What do you take from it?

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Speaker 4: I think two things really quick.

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Speaker 3: Is one exactly what I just said is you can't

759
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: expect to get by on the skinn of your teeth

760
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: every single week. At some point it's gonna come back

761
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: to bite you. I know you you made that great

762
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Speaker 3: point to lead the show. We thought it was gonna happen,

763
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Speaker 3: you know, ten twelve, maybe thirteen times over the course

764
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Speaker 3: of the season.

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Speaker 4: Never did until tonight.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think the other thing to me is I think

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Speaker 3: it's the sum of the parts with Philly is you

769
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Speaker 3: know Cooper to John we were talking about as a

770
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Speaker 3: first round pick that last year, he ends up falling

771
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Speaker 3: to the second round. Great value, Jalen Carter. We know

772
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: he fell because of some personal issues. Philly felt like, hey,

773
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Speaker 3: we got a bunch of his former teammates from Georgia

774
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: in this locker room. We can handle whatever issues are

775
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: going to come about. And so it's about I still think, listen,

776
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: it's about player evaluation. It's about you know, what's the

777
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: word I'm looking for when you get the right guy

778
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Speaker 3: in the right spot. Basically, you know, taking advantage of

779
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: your picks or whatever. That to me is it is

780
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: like I said to early in the show, I thought

781
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: Philly was in uh was better at just about every

782
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Speaker 3: spot on the field. All those guys aren't first round picks,

783
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: Guys that have dropped, Guys that stump well, guys that

784
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: had personal problems that got solved.

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Speaker 4: That to me is what stands out about this Philly win.

786
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get all that. I also think and again,

787
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: this is one of those things we do. It wasn't

788
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: that long ago that we decided that like wide receivers

789
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 2: were maybe one of the most important positions on the field.

790
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: We got to give them all thirty and thirty five

791
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: million dollars. Now that kind of changed, didn't it. The

792
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: vibe on that change. Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry changed

793
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: that a little bit. And now because of what we

794
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: saw today, watch for the pendulum to move in the

795
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: direction of the defensive line. Yep. And that being the

796
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 2: straw that stirs a drink. And for me, that means

797
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Speaker 2: if I'm a hopeful contender next year, I'm going all

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Speaker 2: in for Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 4: Great call, that's a great call. We got two hours

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Speaker 4: left to discuss, so I think that's a great, great,

801
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: great call.

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: Though, I mean, we should talk about some of these

803
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 2: other other players with things going on right now. Aaron

804
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: Rodgers release. Miles Garrett wants to trade, so does Deebo Samuel.

805
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: Let's get to all of that as we continue. Mark

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Speaker 2: with it, Aaron Torres, Fox Sports Radio. Here we go

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Speaker 2: into the night. Super Bowl after party is on, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna go live straight to New Orleans in about

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Speaker 2: five minutes. Our own Dan Byers on the scene. We're

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Speaker 2: just isn't. But over and over, one way or another,

816
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Speaker 2: we get reminded every single year that football games, especially

817
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Speaker 2: the end of the year, they are one down there

818
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Speaker 2: on that line of scrimmage. I could argue that the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs victory the last few years in the Super Bowl,

820
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Speaker 2: their best player I thought was Chris Jones. Sure, yeah,

821
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: like he's the one who's been winning Super Bowl rings

822
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: for that team. And now it was an ego defensive

823
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: line that did not have to blitz the entire night

824
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: that that did the same and kind of flipped the

825
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: script on the Kansas City Chiefs. So yeah, that's my

826
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 2: message for today. Stop giving your wide receiver thirty million dollars.

827
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Speaker 2: He's not worth it.

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Speaker 3: Well, and when did kse You know, listen, they've been

829
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: great since Mahomes took over as a starting quarterback. But listen,

830
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 3: I was the guy that for a year was convinced

831
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: Casey was taking a major step back because they lost

832
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. And it's like, oh, there's no play you know,

833
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: even for great receiver standards, there's nobody like him. And

834
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Speaker 3: it's like, well, doesn't really end up mattering when you

835
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: have a great coach at a great quarterback, and so

836
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Speaker 3: I'm with you, and I do think what's interesting is,

837
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Speaker 3: like you said, how how sports become such copycat situations.

838
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: I think being rate along the lines is something that

839
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: is going to withstand the test of time in football forever.

840
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: But I think the best example I've ever seen of

841
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: that is the team that you cover very closely, the

842
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors. When you know they started shooting a

843
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: million threes, Well, we got to get our own Stephan Clay,

844
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Speaker 3: and it's like, uh, they're literally two of probably the

845
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Speaker 3: three best shooters, if not the two best shooters. There

846
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 3: aren't another Steph and Clay walking around, and so I

847
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: will say, I think you know it's gonna be I

848
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: do think again, people will try to replicate the Philadelphia blueprint,

849
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: but again, there aren't very many guys like Jalen Carter

850
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: falling floating around, and they usually don't fall as far

851
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: in the draft as they do. I know, I referenced

852
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: it a minute ago, but had some stuff that happened

853
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: off the court. They had off the field, excuse.

854
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: Me, yep, yep.

855
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: They had a bunch of guys that had played with

856
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: him in college. They thought, you know, they could kind

857
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 3: of keep them in line.

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00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: They did. But I do agree that two things are true.

859
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: One is that I agree with you that everybody, I

860
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: think is going to lock in on the D line

861
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 3: and realize the value that a guy like Josh Wett

862
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: Jalen Carter would ever have. But two, I also think

863
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: that that's something that every team should be prioritizing because

864
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: you see the difference that they make. And I would

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Speaker 3: just quickly say, you go back to the other Super

866
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: Bowl that the Chiefs lost, as great as Tom Brady

867
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: is and was it was the defensive line completely unblockable

868
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs when it was Tampa Bay. And it's just,

869
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a common theme year over year

870
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: when you factor in the Chiefs wins with Chris Jones,

871
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: Tampa's win over Kansas City a few years ago, Tonight's win,

872
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: or Sunday Nights win. I know it's Monday on the

873
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: East Coast now, but that you know the game was

874
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: it was dominated by Philadelphia's defensive line.

875
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 5: It really was.

876
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot to get

877
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: to with with with everything that you just said. We'll

878
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: continue that conversation in a little bit, because right now

879
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 2: we do want to go live out to Nola because

880
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: right there on the scene a key member of the

881
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: entire Fox Sports radio group, and that is our own

882
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: Dan Bayer, who is a was at the game and

883
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: is now in the aftermath. Hey Dan, what's going on? Man?

884
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: Mark Karon. Great to be with you, guys. I wish

885
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 5: we had a better game, but still happy to be

886
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 5: with you.

887
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: No, set the scene for us, man, What are you

888
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: looking at right now after this Eagles victory?

889
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you where I am. Truly, I am

890
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: sitting on the Philadelphia Eagles bench at about the forty

891
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 5: five yard line of the super Dome right now. The

892
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 5: Eagles locker room was going crazy. We didn't have access

893
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 5: and if you guys remember the NFL really put some

894
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: strict restrictions down when the guy stole the jersey in

895
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: Houston and Tom Brady's jersey.

896
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 6: We hears fact.

897
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: So we do a lot of our stuff on the

898
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 5: field and whatnot, and so that's where I've been camped out.

899
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 5: So Willard, truly, I'm sitting on the Eagles bench right

900
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 5: now on the supercom field.

901
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: One.

902
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: That's a sick brag, Dan Byer, I'm not gonna lie.

903
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 6: Two.

904
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: You know I asked Willard this a minute ago. Is

905
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 4: it's just my opinion? People could disagree.

906
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: I felt like within about two or three possessions, I

907
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: just felt like Kansas City cannot block this team. I

908
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: know it's Mahomes. I know you don't bet against him,

909
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: and I know you don't bet on him. You don't

910
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: bet against him coming back from a double digit deficit.

911
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: I actually thought this one was over pretty quick. I

912
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: just didn't think they could block Kansas City or Kansa

913
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 3: City couldn't blocked Philly. Two part question for you, One

914
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: was it was it obvious in the building? And two

915
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: did you get a sense pretty early that that was

916
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: going to be.

917
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 5: The expect Well I did tweet when Cooper Justine ticked

918
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 5: off Mahomes to run it back that I thought it

919
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 5: was over. Kansas City had no desire to run the football.

920
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 5: They didn't even spry to run the football. I don't

921
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 5: know if they could if they tried, but they didn't.

922
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 5: And to make it a one dimensional game, and that's

923
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 5: with Kansas City. That's a way that you could beat

924
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 5: him when they're not controlling clock. So if you're down

925
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 5: seventeen to nothing, and now Philadelphia knows you're going to

926
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 5: have to throw, and you guys touched on it. I

927
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 5: mean they were in mahomes face all night long without

928
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 5: ever having to blit. And the crazy thing about it was,

929
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: at least in Super Bowl fifty five with the Buccaneers,

930
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 5: the Chiefs could say, well, we didn't have Eric Fisher

931
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: and we did have Mitchell Schwartz. There's not much of

932
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: an excuse this time around, and maybe we'd get credit

933
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 5: to Philadelphia. But yeah, after the turnover that was returned,

934
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: after the pick six, I felt that there was no

935
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 5: way that Kansas City was going to come back. And

936
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 5: I laughed because when people were bringing up to twenty

937
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 5: eight to three, and Aaron, you know this because I

938
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 5: talked to you last night about this, and Mark, I

939
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 5: don't know if you feel the same, but it was

940
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 5: completely a completely different scenario in that situation where Philadelphia

941
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 5: was just physically dominating Kansas City on both sides of

942
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 5: the ball. So now you have a scenario where the

943
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: Eagles are up seventeen to nothing and they're physically dominating

944
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 5: and wearing Kansas City down. There was no recipe. The

945
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: fountains were gas at least in Houston in that twenty

946
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: eight to three game, which is part of the problem.

947
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 5: Why you wonder why Kyle Shanahan was throwing the ball

948
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 5: at times, But yeah, there was no There was no

949
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 5: comparison to what happened eight years ago. I thought the

950
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 5: thing was over at seventeen nothing.

951
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say that when it was twenty eighty three,

952
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that I was predicting a

953
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: Patriots comeback. But this sucker at halftime was absolutely done.

954
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: And Dan, you just brought it up. And I wonder

955
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: if anybody around the stadium is buzzing with some answers.

956
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: The Chiefs handed the ball off to running backs tonight

957
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: seven times. That's it. And I understand that they fell behind,

958
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: But what do you think happened there?

959
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: I have no idea. Isaah p Checko, since he returned

960
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 5: from his injury that cost him most of the regular season,

961
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: was a non factor pretty much for Kansas City. I

962
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: don't know if they didn't trust him holding onto the football.

963
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: I don't know the scenario there. I mean, Kareem Hunt

964
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 5: was their main bulk carrier and he was brought it

965
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 5: in the middle of even and it's crazy to think

966
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: that you could have a game plan that is going

967
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 5: to be solely on the arm of Patrick Mahome in

968
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 5: Philadelphia blew it up in the first quarter. I don't

969
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 5: I you at least have to try to run the football.

970
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: I don't care if it doesn't work. You at least

971
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 5: have to try to run the football and show some

972
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 5: semblance of balance. But that wasn't the case at all Philadelphia.

973
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: Mark had eighteen rushing attempts compared to Kansas City's one

974
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 5: at one point, and Philadelphia was winning at that point.

975
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 5: I think it was seventeen to zerial, but it was

976
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 5: eighteen to one in rushing attempts in the first half

977
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: at one point. That's just unacceptable.

978
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: Dan uh kind of a strange question. But you know

979
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: I said I felt this all week, or really the

980
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: last two weeks. Is you know I was lucky enough

981
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: to fill in for Willer two weeks ago during the

982
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game with Ephraim and Ephram started calling it

983
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 3: out right away. They're scared. This is the Buffalo we're talking.

984
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 3: They're scared. They're scared. They're scared. And I do feel

985
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: like there seems to be an intimidation factor with the

986
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: AFC teams that face case year over year. What was

987
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: it like being around Philly all week? Because I never

988
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: got the sense that, you know, they were intimidated by

989
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: the moment or the jersey or the opponent.

990
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: And I know it's easy to say these guys are professionals.

991
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 6: No one is.

992
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 3: But you watch Buffalo against Kansas City, San Francisco's blown

993
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: two leads in a Super Bowl and Philly just laid

994
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 3: it on them and never let up tonight.

995
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to say it, and Mark and maybe

996
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 5: speak even better on the forty nine ers situation, but

997
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 5: I do think with the Buffalo Bills, it's oh, here

998
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 5: we go again, or what could happen to us again?

999
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: And so you don't get the first down in that

1000
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 5: scenario on that fourth quarter and you're thinking, oh my goodness,

1001
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: it's going to happen to us again. We're about to

1002
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 5: have it happened. It was a storyline this week with

1003
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 5: Philadelphia guys on how they should have probably won Super

1004
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 5: Bowl fifty seven. The Hurts bubble obviously cost them. I

1005
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 5: don't think that that's the play, but you know, Philadelphia

1006
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 5: would have loved to have had the ball back if

1007
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: there wasn't a late penalty in that game. I think

1008
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: a lot of people felt that Philadelphia played better at

1009
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 5: least even with Kansas City and Super Bowl fifty seven,

1010
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 5: So there.

1011
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 6: Was that motivation going in.

1012
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 5: So I don't think that they they had that where

1013
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: it was they did anything wrong in that game. I

1014
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: feel that they felt that they probably outplayed them, and

1015
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 5: maybe unlike a Buffalo, were saying or weren't saying, oh no,

1016
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 5: this is gonna happen to us again. They just decided

1017
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 5: to take care of business our own.

1018
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: Dan Byer is not just on the scene, he's literally

1019
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 2: on the Eagles bench as he's talking with us from

1020
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: Nola right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1021
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, we know that the labels changed reputations and

1022
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts started out the year a guy that was

1023
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 8: battling booze inside his own building.

1024
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: He ends the year as a Super Bowl champ at

1025
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl MVP. How do you think the world

1026
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: views Jalen differently?

1027
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: Now, Well, I'll tell you what, and I was wrong

1028
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 5: about this. I pick the Eagles to win the game,

1029
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: but I almost felt like Jalen Hurts was in a

1030
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: no win situation because I felt Sakuon would get a

1031
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 5: lot of the hype if they ended up winning game,

1032
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 5: but the Eagles excuse me, the Chiefs kept Saquon and

1033
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: Check for the most parts tonight. And I do think

1034
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 5: the thing shapes down with Jalen Hurts in terms of,

1035
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 5: all right, he's got the Super Bowl, he did it

1036
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 5: on the biggest stage and has a Super Bowl MVP.

1037
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 5: But remember this is the NFL and specifically this is

1038
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Shelby. So the love fest unlike a you know,

1039
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 5: a Nick Boles, which is the the backup comes in

1040
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: and leads the team to this great story. I don't

1041
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: think Jalen the Hurts gets that sort of leeway because

1042
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: he's the starter. I'm gonna give him. He'll be a

1043
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 5: Philly legend in his time, but that won't happen until

1044
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 5: he's done playing. I still think that there are gaps,

1045
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 5: but he's gonna want to run.

1046
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: It back next year.

1047
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: There's no reason why they shouldn't. And so he's still

1048
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: going to be end of the microscope. So if things

1049
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 5: aren't clicking like they they could work last year, the

1050
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: honeymoon will be over quick for Jalen Hurts. Unfortunate. I

1051
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 5: ain't saying that thirty minutes after he just won Super

1052
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 5: Bowl MVP, but I think it's the reality playing in Philadelphia.

1053
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 6: Dan.

1054
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: Not sure if you got any of the press conference

1055
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: or whatever, but specifically from the KSE side, I mean,

1056
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: they've lost not many games like this, and certainly not

1057
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: in the manner that they lost. I mean it's cliche.

1058
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: I know they were down, but were they as shocked

1059
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: at the result as pretty much.

1060
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: The rest of us were.

1061
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I did not get a chance to hear

1062
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 5: from it, but I would say, not only are they shocked,

1063
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 5: I have a feeling that they're probably exhausted and this

1064
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: is just one game. Like I mean, for a lot

1065
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 5: of the core guys, it's three years and I remember,

1066
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: you know, one of my one of my favorite thirty

1067
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 5: for thirties was the one about the Buffalo Bills and

1068
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 5: they're four straight Super Bowls, and I think it was

1069
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 5: Jim Kelly or Thurman Thomas mentioned they were playing Dallas

1070
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 5: the second time around to the fourth Super Bowl. They're

1071
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: actually leading at halftime and they're like, we were spent.

1072
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 5: It was over, we weren't gonna win, Like it was

1073
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 5: everything that happened in the year's past.

1074
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 6: It was just it was done. And I kind of

1075
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 6: got that.

1076
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 5: Dense with Kansas City as well, because if you look

1077
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 5: at closing the gap here, this isn't just adding one

1078
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: or two players, This is trying to fix the off

1079
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 5: fitsive line. At some point you're going to have to

1080
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 5: replace Travis Kelsey and guys. The obvious part. You got

1081
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 5: to figure out a running game at least somehow to

1082
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 5: help Patrick Malmes out. So I think they just were

1083
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: probably exhausted. I didn't get to hear it first hand,

1084
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't be shocked if we hear that down

1085
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 5: the line of maybe when they got to this point

1086
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: it was just too much.

1087
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: Dan, I do wonder what you project for them going forward.

1088
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: And maybe it's a little early for this, but you know,

1089
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: the last time they lost the Super Bowl, they responded

1090
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: by winning the next two and getting to all of

1091
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: them since then. Now, the Eagles lost a Super Bowl

1092
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: and they came out the next year and had a

1093
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: down year in the end, the Niners lost a Super Bowl,

1094
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: had a disaster, a Super Bowl hangover, do your fir see,

1095
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: based on what you just said, a super Bowl hangover

1096
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: for the Chiefs next year.

1097
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's got to be some portion of it.

1098
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: I know that Bengals game that they lost was close,

1099
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 5: and when Cincinnati went super Bowl fifty six. But I

1100
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: think it's just human nature. And then if you want

1101
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 5: to put the previous Super Bowls with this, I mean

1102
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 5: with this corps, at some point there's going to need there's.

1103
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 2: Going to have to be a change.

1104
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 6: You know.

1105
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 5: Tom Brady talked about it throughout the week at his

1106
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 5: Fox hit. So when you go to the Super Bowl

1107
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: and you lose to the Giants the first time and

1108
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 5: then you realize that, okay, then you lose again in

1109
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: super Bowl forty six, and then you go to super

1110
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 5: Bowl forty eight, there, excuse me, super Bowl forty nine,

1111
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 5: and it had been a decade, so they had two

1112
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 5: losses at that point. And I don't know if Kansas

1113
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: City set up for that sort of thing, but the

1114
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: Patriots had an early window and then there was a gap,

1115
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: which really was and so I wonder if that happens

1116
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 5: with Kansas City. I don't think there'll be as much

1117
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 5: finger pointing as there was in Philadelphia when they lost

1118
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: two years ago, and maybe having the discord there because

1119
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: you have your answer Q quarterback. And I think that

1120
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 5: Andy Reid runs a pretty good ship but yeah, I

1121
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: think there's going to be some sort of hangover. I

1122
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 5: don't know how much finger pointing.

1123
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: There's going to be last one for me.

1124
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 3: Dan just the vibes vibes with Sirianni specifically, because you know,

1125
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: we all see the outside narrative.

1126
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 4: But it feels like the players love him.

1127
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we were watching the live TV and there

1128
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 3: was a line to throw gatorade on him, and there

1129
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: were It feels like the perception of him is different

1130
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 3: than the fifty three guys in that locker room.

1131
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 4: Feel about him.

1132
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 5: You're right, I think that the perception that we got

1133
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 5: now when we have him as a Super Bowl champion.

1134
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 5: I was up about the postgame cameras on the field afterwards,

1135
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 5: when they're bringing players up first after person went up

1136
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: to Nick Sirianni. I haven't been kind to him, and

1137
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 5: talking on Fox Sports Radio, I heard people use the

1138
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 5: term CEO this week and I kind of laughed because

1139
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: I just I didn't see him as the CEO type.

1140
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 5: But there's sure seemed to be a sense of relief,

1141
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: and there are actually sure seemed to be a bunch

1142
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: of people pulling for him.

1143
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: Now.

1144
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: I think it's up to Nick Sirianni either continue or

1145
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: just to see how he carries on as a Super

1146
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 5: Bowl champion head coach, because he hasn't done himself favors

1147
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 5: with his actions on the side blind than another points

1148
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 5: as the Eagles head coach. But now that you're a

1149
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 5: Super Bowl winner, not to make a cop out of it,

1150
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: but it'll be up to him to determine that. But

1151
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 5: I was surprised at how many people went up to

1152
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 5: Nick Sirianni that weren't Eagles people, that were just general

1153
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 5: people that were happy for Nick Sirianni and congratulating him.

1154
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 5: And he's got something that you can't take away from him,

1155
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 5: that's a Super Bowl ring as a head coach. So

1156
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: like him or not, he's a champion tonight, and.

1157
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 2: We cannot take away from you that in the shadow

1158
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl, you're sitting on the bench like

1159
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: Big Dom. Unbelievable.

1160
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 6: Dan.

1161
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 2: Great to have you man, Thanks for all the work

1162
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: all week long, and thanks for this tonight.

1163
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: You know what, guys, thank you so much. And I'm

1164
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 5: actually just going to text you both a picture of

1165
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 5: me on the bench doing my interview with you guys.

1166
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 6: Okay, you get line.

1167
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: See if they'll give you a ring when it's all

1168
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: sad and downe it's going for the like everybody else did.

1169
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, great stuff, Thanks guys, appreciate.

1170
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: It, all right? Dan, all right, there he goes, he's fancy.

1171
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 2: That's Dan Byer on the scene in New Orleans. Great stuff. Okay,

1172
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 2: coming up, more of the postgame Super Bowl party. Mark Willard,

1173
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: Aaron Torres and I want to get to this a

1174
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: little bit of a continuation of what we were just

1175
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: talking about, because I really think the whole year, not

1176
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: just this game, was sort of another change in the

1177
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: way NFL teams are going to want to do roster construction.

1178
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: I'll explain that a little bit coming up next on

1179
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. The Eagles of Super Bowl champs, the

1180
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: three peat is not happening. We're livingthe tie rack dot

1181
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: com studios. We're talking all of it out. What does

1182
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: it mean for the Chiefs, the Eagles, the individuals, the

1183
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: league as a whole. There's a lot of interesting stuff

1184
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: that came down today and this week that didn't even

1185
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: have anything to do with the Super Bowl. So we're

1186
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: gonna get to all of it. But it is a

1187
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: game changing night for the Eagles. Franchi for the individual

1188
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: players for the city of Philadelphia. We want to bring

1189
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: in our man who's with FSR in Philadelphia. Sean Brace

1190
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 2: is joining us right now live on Fox Sports Radio. Sean,

1191
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: it's great to have you tonight. How are you.

1192
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: Well, gentlemen, City of Winners coming see you live another.

1193
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 2: Well, tell me about City of Winners, because what I

1194
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: heard at the beginning of the year was, Sirianni's days

1195
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: are numbered. We're not sure if Jalen Hurts is the

1196
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: right guy. How do the narratives at the beginning of

1197
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: the year, how do those change now?

1198
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 6: Sean oh cay drastically obviously, you know, with the Super

1199
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 6: Bowl championship. But you know, look, he was he's always

1200
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 6: been a polarizing figure and he's one that will always

1201
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 6: catch the clicks. So everybody's quick to point out. And

1202
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 6: he plays the quarterback position, no doubt about it. But

1203
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 6: for the majority of people realize how good Jalen is is.

1204
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 6: He a guy that can go out there and I

1205
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 6: mean he really could. He can do it either way

1206
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 6: you need him to. But he's so just dynamic and

1207
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: he makes plays with his legs and he picks up

1208
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: those tough yards with the brotherly shove. And but then,

1209
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 6: like I said, if you need him to go out

1210
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 6: there and find aj Brown or read that defense and

1211
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 6: know exactly where he's going. He's a very brilliant quarterback

1212
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 6: at the line of scrimmage with the adjustments. He's just

1213
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 6: been proving any doubters wrong. And you know, look, I didn't.

1214
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 6: I wasn't the biggest fan of the head coach, but

1215
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 6: I never doubted the quarterback. He's always been special. Two

1216
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 6: trips through the Super Bowl, now Super Bowl champion.

1217
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: Sean, So you joined me and Jason Martin on our

1218
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: show on Saturday, Mary Play for America. What Sean said

1219
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 3: when I asked him about this game we got to

1220
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: run thirty seconds.

1221
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 4: We know you like Philly, but what do you think

1222
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 4: the final scores?

1223
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 6: I think the Birds so forty plus. I think they

1224
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 6: snack him. They're a better football team. Going to show

1225
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 6: it tomorrow. I'll say forty one twenty seven Birds on top. Wow.

1226
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's pretty good, Sean Brace.

1227
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean, what was it that gave you so much

1228
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: confidence in your team, your quarterback, your head coach. Forty

1229
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: one to twenty seven was your prediction? Forty to twenty

1230
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 3: two with the Birds heading forty What led you to believe?

1231
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: What led you to all that confidence last night when

1232
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: we talked to you, oh.

1233
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 6: Man, appreciate it, Aaron, Yeah. Look, you know they were

1234
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 6: up forty to six at one point tonight, and even

1235
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 6: I didn't think it would be like that bad of

1236
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 6: a performance by the Cancer the Chiefs, but just point

1237
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 6: out from the standpoint of the offense, he just felt

1238
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 6: like that what we saw against the Commanders wasn't a

1239
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 6: surprise if you've been paying attention, like this team is

1240
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 6: very capable of and when you dangle a prize such as, hey,

1241
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 6: you win this game, you get to the super Bowl. Okay,

1242
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: now it's on a different level that game. That changes

1243
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 6: it a little bit. Now you could have lost in

1244
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: the playoffs, of course, but it's something different. And of

1245
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 6: course the same way with the Super Bowl. You dangle

1246
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl champions you can never take it away.

1247
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 6: You just knew that those special players are gonna make

1248
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 6: big time plays. Offensive line has just been monsters. They

1249
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,959
Speaker 6: eat all game long. Jalen's ad very good quarterback. Whatever

1250
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 6: you need him to do, he'll get the job done.

1251
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 6: We know what Saque's ability is and of course AJ.

1252
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 6: So it started for me with the offense, but I

1253
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 6: did feel like the defense, and I told you the

1254
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 6: secondary specifically was going to be in the back pockets

1255
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 6: of those wide receivers. I just was not enamored with

1256
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 6: the speed of Travis Kelcey at this point in time

1257
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 6: of his career. He's fantastic, but man, he's a little slow.

1258
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. Watch fifty seven and then watch

1259
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 6: that Super Bowl and you could see the difference two

1260
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 6: years separating the two games, and you see Kelsey just

1261
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 6: dropping up just a dad. But none of those receivers

1262
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 6: scared me. So I felt like the Eagles were the

1263
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 6: better football team top to bottom. Didn't see Mahomes playing

1264
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 6: as poorly as he did, but always felt confident that

1265
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 6: the Eagles were going to score a bunch of points.

1266
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 6: Who's gonna be tough to match.

1267
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: When there's no question, And you know, looking around at

1268
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 2: the lay of the land for the Eagles now, from

1269
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: Hurts to Barkley to those receivers to a lot of

1270
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: these young key players on defense, it looks like things

1271
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: are in place going forward for the Eagles, which will

1272
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 2: lead to a lot of talk about, Hey, the band's

1273
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: all back, they'll repeat and all that, but like, what

1274
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 2: is what's on the off season to do list for

1275
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 2: this team?

1276
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: But it's great, you know when you've got a guy

1277
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 6: like Howie Roseman who just continues to hit when it

1278
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 6: comes to the draft and getting the free agency. Now Saquon,

1279
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 6: it doesn't take a genius to say, hey, I bet

1280
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 6: you an unbelievable running back would be really good behind

1281
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 6: this offensive line with Jeff Stoutland the offensive line coach,

1282
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 6: who could very well in them in the Hall of Fame.

1283
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 6: That's how unbelievable of a coach he is. Like I said,

1284
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 6: Howie Roseman has been pulling all the right triggers from

1285
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 6: the draft to the offseason to signings, you know, to

1286
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 6: the backup quarterbacks, like right now with Kenny Pickett, who

1287
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 6: knows what he's able to get with him, and you know,

1288
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 6: I just feel like what how He's going to do

1289
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 6: is probably look to go to the defense, try and

1290
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 6: fill in the need. As far as that rusher you

1291
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 6: lose Brandon Graham. But for the most part, like you said,

1292
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 6: with Quinnon, Mitchell, Cooper Dejen both rookie quarterbacks there, Zach

1293
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 6: Ball would be the big question mark because he was

1294
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 6: an All Pro linebacker this year, and I would imagine

1295
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: his phone's gonna be ringing off. But I just don't

1296
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 6: know if he's to be able to match him. But

1297
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 6: hopefully how we can bring him back offensively. They're ready

1298
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 6: to roll. Nobody's leaving. And that's another thing about Ali

1299
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 6: Roseman is he seems to never find himself in the

1300
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 6: same conversations that the Cowboys always do. Like Lamb no Ceedee,

1301
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 6: Lamb was aj Brown, he was paid. You know, DeVante

1302
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 6: Smith was drafted, but he goes he's been taken care of.

1303
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 6: Howie Roseman never finds himself in those positions, yet the

1304
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 6: players are always satisfied with the money going at that

1305
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 6: point in time. So he set himself up for success

1306
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 6: and man, he's he's getting the accolades. A lot of

1307
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 6: people sing the praise Howie roseveand these days, you know.

1308
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: It's funny.

1309
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about Howie Roseman, but

1310
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 3: you covered exactly what I was looking for. I want

1311
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: to ask you about a sort of a random question,

1312
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 3: but an individual player is Jalen Carter falls to you

1313
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: guys in the draft. We know there were some issues

1314
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: pre draft, but we also know, one, most people believed

1315
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 3: he was the best player in that draft. And two,

1316
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, Mark and I have references a few times,

1317
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: but they had a lot of his Georgia teammates in

1318
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 3: Philadelphia that kind of felt like they could, you know,

1319
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: just make sure that there was no funny business when

1320
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: he left the facility. He's he's phenomenal, and that he

1321
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: was one of the reasons that I like Philadelphia to

1322
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: win this game. I didn't know if he could be blocked.

1323
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 3: But what has how has the response been to him

1324
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: in the city. It seems like he's doing everything right

1325
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 3: and putting whatever happened in the past behind him.

1326
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, you know, from from day one, everybody just

1327
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 6: was blown away by the fact that he dropped, Like

1328
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 6: you pointed out, how how is this pop? And he

1329
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 6: was number one on a lot of people's targets. And

1330
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 6: once the draft started happening and he was sliding, it

1331
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 6: was there and it was a no brainer. And in

1332
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 6: that same draft, it's just the way to how he

1333
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 6: continued and pulled all the right triggers. As we were

1334
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 6: just discussing, But Jalen Carter, he is so important and

1335
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 6: he's showing his worth every single time he's out there,

1336
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 6: regardless if he can get into the backfield or not.

1337
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 6: He's always commanding double teams. And you saw the Rams game,

1338
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 6: he won a few of those to at least like

1339
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 6: hold it down at the end of the game. The

1340
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 6: commanders not so much. In that Green Bay Packers game,

1341
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 6: he was getting double team to Tons. But you know

1342
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 6: what happens, and he get double team, you free it

1343
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 6: up for somebody else on the defensive line, and guys

1344
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 6: like Nolan Smith have come around. We talked about Josh

1345
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 6: Swett on Saturday. He led the team in Sackson regular

1346
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 6: season eight and a half, so no surprise to see

1347
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: him have a career night. I'm sure he's going to

1348
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 6: get a few phone calls this offseason. But you know,

1349
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 6: it's the crazy thing about tonight, guys, was that they

1350
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 6: didn't blitz. Fangio did not blitz. There's forty two dropbacks.

1351
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 6: He rushed four every single time they rushed. They got

1352
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 6: after my home sixteen under forty two times rushing four

1353
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 6: six sacks. Like It's just crazy how it all played

1354
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 6: out today. The Eagles were just ready, you know, to

1355
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 6: slay the dragon. And I'm sure there was a little

1356
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 6: bit of motivation. Two weeks all you heard about was

1357
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 6: three p oh. I'll take Patrick Mahomes over jail and

1358
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 6: it hurts all day.

1359
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 5: Read over Syria.

1360
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, Super Bowl fifty nine champions and they slayed

1361
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 6: the Dragons.

1362
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 2: Sol brace FSR. Philly is with us. I know there's

1363
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: one thing that all cities but one in America can

1364
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: agree on is a good thing, and that is that

1365
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys are not projected to be first or

1366
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 2: second next year in the NFC East. Tell me where

1367
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: we're going. What is budding here between the Eagles and

1368
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: the Commanders starting next year.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one.

1370
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 6: And especially if the Commanders go out and I'm sure

1371
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 6: there's going to be some receivers out there that want

1372
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 6: to go and play with that instut of a quarterback

1373
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 6: in Jade and Daniels. So, you know, just as far

1374
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 6: as what you saw in this game, it's hard to

1375
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 6: believe that the Commanders actually gave the Eagles a better

1376
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 6: game than the Chiefs did. Like it's just it's wild

1377
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 6: to really think about it like that. But you know,

1378
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 6: the Commanders are a good squat that's definitely going to

1379
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 6: be the team that everyone's going to be talking about

1380
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 6: next year. Who knows what the Giants would do with

1381
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 6: the draft, whether or not they can get shor Sanders

1382
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 6: or some other quarterback that they'll settle with it later.

1383
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 6: But it will be all eyes right now on the

1384
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 6: Commanders and the Eagles next year.

1385
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 4: I believe that last one for me, Sean.

1386
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 3: Since we're going a little bit off of tonight, let

1387
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: me just ask you, how many days do you get

1388
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 3: to ride this one out and celebrate a championship before

1389
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: you're forced to talk about the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1390
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 4: Are we just not talking about them the rest of

1391
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 4: the year or what?

1392
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: I love it?

1393
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 6: I love it. Well, I'll tell you what. The parade

1394
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 6: was originally scheduled for Thursday, but we're supposed to get snow,

1395
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 6: pushing it back to Friday. I don't know, but we're

1396
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 6: gonna milk this one out. And the best part about

1397
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 6: it is everybody will be talking about us all throughout

1398
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 6: the course of the offseason, right up to that opening

1399
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 6: kickoff on Thursday night football, you know, And it's just

1400
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 6: a great thing when your team is on the top.

1401
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 6: It happened in twenty seventeen, Jeffrey Laurie and Howie Roseman

1402
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 6: have just put together a heck of a program, heck

1403
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 6: of a franchise. They deserve all the credit in the world.

1404
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 6: Tough decisions, drafting Jalen Hurts after the Carson went Steel,

1405
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 6: getting out of the Carson Win steal, getting guys like

1406
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 6: Sakuon Barkley in the mix, believing that Philadelphi is a

1407
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 6: better spot than the New York Giants. So it's just

1408
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 6: been a great run. Twenty seventeen. They got over to

1409
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 6: hump of course, two years ago, came up just short

1410
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 6: back on top. Beautiful thing.

1411
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 2: Sean, I won't make you talk about the seventy six ers,

1412
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: but you do need to answer this. When something like

1413
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: this happens, how long is the Philadelphia sports fan happy?

1414
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 2: Two days, three days? How long does it take before

1415
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 2: everybody's mad again?

1416
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell you a lot, man, It's a different

1417
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 6: world when the Eagles, when it is a different world.

1418
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 6: It's never happened. Like I said twenty seventeen, it was crazy.

1419
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,759
Speaker 6: We all got along for a long time. I believe

1420
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,520
Speaker 6: that there was nobody call for anybody's head in twenty seventeen.

1421
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, look, I think We're going to enjoy this one.

1422
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 6: For a few days. Just how dominant they were, and

1423
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 6: they were a special team from start to finish. They

1424
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 6: really were. And that's why a lot of people were

1425
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 6: upset with Heirianno a little bit at the beginning, because

1426
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 6: you knew how much talent was on this team. You

1427
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 6: could not waste this opportunity. So just so happy they

1428
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 6: were able to do it, and looking forward to this

1429
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 6: next week.

1430
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: Boys, well, Sean, wonderful to.

1431
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 6: Have you man.

1432
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time. Congratulations to the city of Philadelphia.

1433
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 6: I can't thank you guys enough. Appreciate it and we'll

1434
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 6: catch up down the road. Appreciate it as always, Aaron.

1435
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: Thank you sir.

1436
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: There it is Sean brace fs. I saw Philly. Seems

1437
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 2: like a very happy boy.

1438
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: But I had a few Philly Specials here while he

1439
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 4: was waiting for us.

1440
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: That means something different than it did a few years ago,

1441
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: doesn't It's not the same this year.

1442
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 3: No, I knew we were getting Dan Byer. At some

1443
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 3: point I said, don't drink. I texted him, I said,

1444
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 3: don't drink too many Philly Specials before we get you

1445
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 3: on air.

1446
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 4: But no, I think you know one I appreciate Sean.

1447
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: He's been coming on our Saturday show the last couple

1448
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 3: of weeks and to you know the point, and I

1449
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: know we have another hour and a half to break

1450
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 3: this thing down from every angle. The thing that stands

1451
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 3: out to me Howie Roseman. Dude, that guy multiple coaches,

1452
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: multiple regimes. And I think the thing we talked about

1453
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 3: in hour one his ability to identify talent get value

1454
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: later in the draft. I think that's the secret sauce

1455
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: to Philly, but an incredible win that I know we

1456
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: got another hour and a half.

1457
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 4: To talk about.

1458
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. And I know you know

1459
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: Andrew Brandt, who is a former exec with the Green

1460
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Bay Packers and in the longtime NFL media men and

1461
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: now does things in the area there I think at

1462
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: Villanova kind of running things for young, up and coming

1463
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: people in the media industry. And one thing I noticed

1464
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: him say tonight on Twitter, he said, Howie Roseman being

1465
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: the guy that runs your organization is just a flat

1466
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: out advantage over most of the other teams. And there's

1467
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: no doubt you look at at the way the drafts

1468
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: specifically affected this game tonight, the way free agency specifically

1469
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 2: affected this game tonight. It's just yeah, it's a well

1470
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: constructed group. He deserves a lot of credit.

1471
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was thinking this too, is that it

1472
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: is interesting we spend so much time on the AFC

1473
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 3: because of the great quarterbacks, but the two, you know,

1474
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: I would say, right, I think it goes out saying

1475
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 3: the two probably best teams position by position, player for player,

1476
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: probably Philly in Detroit, And you know, Detroit easily could

1477
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: have been here. We could be talking about Brad Holmes

1478
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 3: in the same manner. But yeah, Howie Roseman, Brad Holmes.

1479
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm just so impressed by, like the depth of these teams,

1480
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: the quality of dudes. Obviously Tonight's on and Nights to

1481
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: Truck talk about the Lions. But I think it is

1482
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 3: interesting kind of the sum of the parts in the

1483
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 3: NFC compared to the AFC, where there's so many great quarterbacks.

1484
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is I mean, this is a game changer.

1485
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: With all of these teams that have had such a

1486
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 2: hard time to throning the Chiefs, to have an NFC

1487
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: team come in and do it so easily certainly makes

1488
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: you stop and think a little bit. So that roster

1489
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: construction about these teams you're talking about. I think there

1490
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: have been a lot of changes this year based on

1491
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: what happened this year, A lot of changes are coming

1492
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: in terms of what teams are going to value. We'll

1493
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: get back to that conversation coming up next with Aaron

1494
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: Torres Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio. So you

1495
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: know what, the good thing about this is, there's no questions.

1496
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: The bad thing about this is, you know, for the

1497
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: first time in a handful of years now, we did

1498
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: not get a very entertaining Super Bowl and that used

1499
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: to be the thing that used to be the norm

1500
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, and of late these games have been

1501
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: really close, not tonight.

1502
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: It's actually really funny you say that. I was telling

1503
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: Dissager and my partner Jason Martin last night. My in

1504
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 3: laws are not from the United States, so they have

1505
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: no real affiliation with professional football. I bring it up

1506
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: because we had only had them over for the Super

1507
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 3: Bowl one other time prior to this, and it was

1508
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 3: that Rams Patriots super Bowl where the final score was

1509
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 3: like thirteen to nine.

1510
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: Or three I think it was, yeah, yeah, something like that.

1511
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I told to say, I'm like, I'm

1512
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 3: praying for a more entertaining game.

1513
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 4: And guess what it was.

1514
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: It was at least a little bit entertaining. But they

1515
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 3: were packing up by the half. They were like, all right,

1516
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: we all got to work tomorrow. We're gonna get out

1517
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: of our bike. Can we get an entertaining game so

1518
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 3: these people can enjoy this wonderful sport, because every time

1519
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: I tell them how great this sport is, it's a

1520
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 3: completely one sided game, ugly game whatever.

1521
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: So well, at least you got points, yes, yeah, points

1522
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: this time. It's just that they all went to.

1523
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: The same time, so that yeah.

1524
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, the whole work tomorrow thing. This

1525
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: is actually the hidden argument that I'd like the NFL

1526
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: to use when they go to the players Union and

1527
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: they're like, so about that eighteen game schedule. I want

1528
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: everybody to just grab a calendar and look at what

1529
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: next Monday is. For those of you who don't have

1530
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: in front of you, it's called President's Day and it

1531
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: is often a company holiday for many places around America.

1532
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: Very simple, if we just move this thing one more week,

1533
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: we will at long last get what America deserves, a

1534
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: day off after the super Bowl.

1535
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 3: Nope, I mean there's a you know, it's like talking

1536
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: about breaking down this game if Philadelphia kicked the button.

1537
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 3: Next question, should we have the day off after the

1538
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 3: super Bowl? Next question, Yes, we absolutely should.

1539
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 4: And listen.

1540
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: I know, I know others have brought it up, but

1541
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 3: when you explain it like that, it's like man oh Man,

1542
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 3: and you know, listen the NFL season, Like the NFL

1543
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: does every I know, you could criticize goodel what they

1544
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 3: basically do everything right, Like even I was watching the

1545
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: pregame show today. They honor this group, they honor that

1546
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: group like they do it all right. Just let's get

1547
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 3: one more week on the calendar. We're all locked in.

1548
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: We're all gonna miss football as it is, so give

1549
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: us another week and then also give us the day

1550
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 3: off after that feels like the platform that everybody can

1551
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 3: get behind.

1552
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: You heard your boy Sean. Does he sound like he's

1553
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: ready for walk in the morning.

1554
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: He's good.

1555
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna be going live. I don't

1556
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 3: even know how many hours from now, but he seemed

1557
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 3: like he was. He seemed like he had a good

1558
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 3: time tonight.

1559
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 2: That's awesome, Which is awesome. This is awesome, good for

1560
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 2: everybody in Philadelphia. It couldn't happen to a nicer fan base.

1561
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, go get Miles Garrett. Here's what

1562
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking at. And Ephraim's been really good about this

1563
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: all year long. If you look around the league, if

1564
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 2: this is not just Philadelphia, they might be exhibit A.

1565
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 2: But I'd argue Baltimore is Exhibit one A. And we

1566
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: could do this in a lot of other places too,

1567
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 2: From Josh Jacobs to Aaron Jones. It starts with Derek

1568
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 2: Henry and Saquon Barkley. Though, look around the league this

1569
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: year at how many running backs we're told, eh, yeah,

1570
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: really not interested in paying you. We think you're replaceable. Henry, Barkley,

1571
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: the other two I just mentioned, from Josh Jacobs and

1572
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Jones, Joe Mixon, so many running backs around this league.

1573
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 2: Look at the guys with the Chargers, Edwards and Dobbit

1574
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: just going to say them. Yet all over the league

1575
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: running backs were told yeah, you're not very important. And

1576
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: every single one of those guys I just mentioned they

1577
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: all have one thing in common. They all went to

1578
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:18,520
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

1579
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 9: Meantime, before the year, we couldn't stop arguing with each

1580
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 9: other over whether that wide receivers should get twenty eight

1581
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,919
Speaker 9: or twenty nine or thirty or thirty one or whatever.

1582
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 2: Add that into what we just saw tonight with a

1583
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: dominant performance by both lines for the Eagles, I think

1584
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 2: it's time to stop getting all into the glitz and

1585
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 2: the glamour when it comes to roster construction.

1586
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: By the way, you sound like a man who spent

1587
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 3: three straight months talking about a hypothetical Brandon Ayuk extension

1588
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: on San Francisco sports talk radio.

1589
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: Do I sound like that? Yeah, yes, yes, And the

1590
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: only thing you messed up there was I think it

1591
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 2: was four or five months, not three and a half months.

1592
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 2: And then in the shadow of all of that, we

1593
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: wake up to a Deebo Samuel trade request today now.

1594
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 3: But I will say I do think this proves again

1595
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier. Sports are cyclical. We talked

1596
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 3: about your great Warriors teams. Everybody wanted to be the Warriors.

1597
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: Now it feels like Jokich is coming up, Giannis whoever,

1598
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: it's kind of more. You know, Jason Tatum with the

1599
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 3: mid range game, it's not all three three three three threes.

1600
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 3: And I think we're seeing that in football. Is that

1601
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: the way to beat Mahomes is it necessarily to outscore

1602
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 3: him and put up fifty. Because by the way, Casey's

1603
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 3: offense wasn't great all year, but their defense was great

1604
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia, it was the defense in the run game

1605
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 3: all year. You go to Detroit, we talked about them

1606
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: and it does feel like a sport that is shifting

1607
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: back to.

1608
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 4: Kind of what we grew up on on defensive run team.

1609
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: And we'll see like that, Yeah, that might be the

1610
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: flavor of the moment. We'll see. Maybe it always does

1611
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: kind of be cyclical, it comes back around, but in

1612
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 2: the mo that's how it feels. I want to get

1613
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: to this coming up next. So because that was the

1614
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,879
Speaker 2: last game, people will say that was the real Chiefs.

1615
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: Is that fair? That's next off We go deep into

1616
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: the night after the Super Bowl and yes, this Kansas

1617
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: City Chiefs have been dethrowned. Remember that final call when

1618
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: they won the AFC Championship. You can hate the Chiefs,

1619
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: you can get sick of the Chiefs. You're gonna have

1620
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 2: to deal with the Chiefs. Well, the Chiefs have been

1621
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,800
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Speaker 2: That's sort of the question. I think. I go to

1627
01:19:56,240 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: bed with tonight, Aaron, and it's this in a year

1628
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 2: that I felt a game like that was coming all along,

1629
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: but then it never did until the very end, and

1630
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: then it did. You walk away, and I know this

1631
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: will sound offensive and silly to somebody. You walk away going,

1632
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: who are the real Chiefs? Look what, I know, they're good.

1633
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: I mean, that's stupid. They go to the Super Bowl

1634
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 2: almost every year, they went fifteen to two. They just

1635
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 2: beat two high level playoff opponents in their building to

1636
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: get to this point. I know they're not just good.

1637
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: I know they're great. I realize that, but I just

1638
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: want to spotlight this Chiefs team. Forget all the previous years.

1639
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: This year's chief squad looked underwhelming all the time in

1640
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 2: being overwhelming with their record, and then they get to

1641
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: a super Bowl and literally, brother, they are not even competitive,

1642
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: and so it makes you stop and wonder again, like

1643
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: I don't know where where did this all go wrong?

1644
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Because once they fell behind and ran the ball only

1645
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 2: seven times to their running backs. It was clear that

1646
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: this team's offensive firepower was severely lacking.

1647
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 3: It was, you know, and it's crazy because you know,

1648
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 3: you sit there and over the course of the season,

1649
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: you feel like, okay, underwhelming whatever.

1650
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 4: It is kind of jarring.

1651
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: Though.

1652
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 3: While you were setting that up, Willard, I went ahead

1653
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 3: and looked back of their fifteen regular season wins.

1654
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

1655
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 3: Eleven came by one possession. Now, some of them were

1656
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: a touchdown, some of them were eight points. But you know, again,

1657
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 3: you go three points, two points, two points, three points.

1658
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 3: It's just and I'm with you, is listen. I give

1659
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 3: them credit for one the cliche championship medal, this, that

1660
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: the other thing. But I do give them credit because

1661
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 3: I think that you know, I'll never discredit a team

1662
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: for finding ways to win one. But two, I think

1663
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: that Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, I think it really stood

1664
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: out in the AFC Championship game. And I know that's

1665
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 3: kind of a weird thing to say, because I know

1666
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 3: that they scored more points in the AFC Championship game

1667
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 3: than they did all year. But you watched how they

1668
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: play the game. They don't have those great deep threats

1669
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 3: Xavior Worthy may get there one day. He's not there yet.

1670
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 3: They don't, you know, Travis Kelcey isn't the guy that

1671
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 3: he was even two three years ago. And so I

1672
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: think pretty early they realized we have to win ugly,

1673
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: we have to control the clock, you know, And I

1674
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 3: reference the AFC Championship game because there were two three

1675
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 3: four times in that game where they needed a first

1676
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: down to kind of keep the clock moving whatever, twice

1677
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: on the final possession, and they always had the right

1678
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 3: play call. But well, I think we have to give

1679
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 3: them credit for fighting a way to win all those

1680
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: close games. I'm with you, is I know that there

1681
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 3: would have been conversations if you finish fifteen and two

1682
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: in the regular season, only one loss all year, when

1683
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 3: you're playing all of your best players, like there would

1684
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: have had to be a conversation where do they rank

1685
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: all I never, like no one ever thought that they

1686
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: were an all time great team and finally caught up

1687
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,360
Speaker 3: with them. You want to give them credit for finding

1688
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 3: ways to win, and I think realizing who they were

1689
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 3: pretty early. But to as you said to lead this

1690
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 3: show two hours ago, you felt all year long like

1691
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 3: at some point they just couldn't keep pulling rabbits out

1692
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: of their hat, and today it became pretty obvious pretty

1693
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 3: early that they were not going to be able to

1694
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 3: do the same this evening.

1695
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at these games and look at it. Yeah,

1696
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: I know that the stat you're talking about about so

1697
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: many of them being one score games, but I think

1698
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: it goes even a step further. There's at least four

1699
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 2: or five of these where I sit here at the

1700
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: end of the year and I'm not even a fan

1701
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: of this team or the teams they went against or whatever.

1702
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 2: I could point out four or five games where I

1703
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 2: remember the ending of the game and You're like, how

1704
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: the hell did they just win that? How did they

1705
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: do that? It started on Opening night was Isaiah Likely's toe,

1706
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Isaiah Likely's toe. And then the very next week they

1707
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: go on I think a rain soaked drive and they

1708
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 2: beat Cincinnati by one point with a last second long

1709
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: field goal by Harrison Buker. I can think of the

1710
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 2: game against the Raiders on Black Friday with the Raiders,

1711
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: instead of going out to kick a field goal, just

1712
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: completely messed up the play calling and had the clock

1713
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: run out on them. The overtime game against Tampa was

1714
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 2: a rabbit out of the hat, as you put it,

1715
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 2: the blocked field goal that was a chip shot against

1716
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos on November tenth. I mean, that's five

1717
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: games right there, and that does not cover all of

1718
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: the of the close games like it was one week

1719
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: after another. I'm not saying I saw a game where

1720
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 2: they'd ever be down forty to six. But if you

1721
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: ask me at any point this year, do you think

1722
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are the best team in the NFL this year,

1723
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: There's never been one day on the calendar where I

1724
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: would have answered yes, yes.

1725
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 3: And I think that goes to what I said a

1726
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 3: minute ago. Two things can be true, is you give

1727
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: them credit for winning all of those games. Yeah, But

1728
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 3: and maybe this would have been maybe we would have

1729
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 3: felt different. And obviously I think people would have felt

1730
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 3: different if they had, even if they won the AFC,

1731
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: if they had lost three or four of those games

1732
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 3: and they're coming in at, you know whatever, eleven and

1733
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: six in the regular season instead of fifteen to two.

1734
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question sort of related, but

1735
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 3: sort of not really, because I was thinking about this

1736
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: during the game and I didn't really know how to

1737
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 3: kind of frame it for this show, or frame it

1738
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: for a clever tweet or whatever.

1739
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 4: How do you feel if you're the Buffalo Bills right now?

1740
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 3: Oh God, because like this isn't This wasn't a vintage

1741
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 3: team all year to your exact point. And again, I

1742
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: just go back to that AFC Championship game where Sean Listen,

1743
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: Ephram and I were on air. I don't know what

1744
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 3: your perspective was. I still stand by what I said

1745
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: that night. I thought Sean McDermott was intimidated. I thought

1746
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 3: he lost them in the game with all the bad

1747
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 3: push pushes that clearly weren't working, taking points off the

1748
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 3: board in the first half, which Ephram called out in

1749
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 3: the moment, that's the wrong decision.

1750
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 4: Then you're chasing points.

1751
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 3: And I just sit there and say, like it was

1752
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: there for the taking, It was there for the taking

1753
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 3: this year you couldn't take advantage. I'm not one of

1754
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: those people that thinks the Bills will never be able

1755
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 3: to get over the hump, but it's like, this wasn't

1756
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 3: the Chiefs team of three, four to five.

1757
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: It just wasn't.

1758
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 3: And so I just I think, I think this result

1759
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: has to make you sicker if you're a Bills fan

1760
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 3: because it was it was there, somebody was. They were

1761
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 3: capable of being taken down, and you just couldn't do it.

1762
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 2: There's no question, There's no question that I'm I'm I'm

1763
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: like absolutely queasy today, and by extension, I might feel

1764
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of that if I'm a Baltimore fan.

1765
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: Two less so because that team has had at least

1766
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: relatively recent Super Bowl victories. I know Lamar hasn't, but

1767
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: at least the fan base has. And I also know

1768
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 2: that you know, they didn't earn their chance by beating Buffalo,

1769
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 2: but both of those teams had some early seasons sort

1770
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: of mishaps that led to them not having home field advantage.

1771
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,719
Speaker 2: I think if either of them have home field advantage

1772
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: over the Chiefs, it's not a question they would win

1773
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: that football game. But yeah, I'm with you, like we

1774
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 2: can whittle it down to this. I think Buffalo is

1775
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: a better football team. I just do they beat him

1776
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: in the regular season. I'm with you that all the

1777
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 2: opportunities were there last week. You're right that Kansas City

1778
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: deserves a ton of credit for that. I credit them

1779
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 2: because they keep, you know, winning games that maybe they

1780
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't win. But if you're a Kansas City fan and

1781
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: you want to force someone to say that, like give

1782
01:27:57,240 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 2: them credit for what they did, fine, you get credit

1783
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 2: for what you did if you also acknowledge got exposed today. Man,

1784
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 2: you got absolutely exposed by getting all the way to

1785
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 2: a super Bowl and having the score be twenty four

1786
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,959
Speaker 2: to nothing at halftime, like you couldn't even.

1787
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 3: Hang no, and and you know you don't want to

1788
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 3: discredit Philly, but again, I just go back to you

1789
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: were exposed. It was embarrassing, and other teams had other

1790
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 3: opportunities to do that. And again, I just go back

1791
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 3: to that AFC Championship game where it's like I understand

1792
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:37,839
Speaker 3: it was in Arrowhead.

1793
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I get that, I really do.

1794
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,600
Speaker 3: But I just I still think like this was we

1795
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 3: all watched it, and this is how we led this hour,

1796
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 3: was that this wasn't one of those teams. I don't

1797
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: care what the regular season record was. They were beatable.

1798
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: They found ways credit to them. But you just like,

1799
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: if you're a Buffalo fan right now, you just got

1800
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 3: to be like, dude, it was there for the tape,

1801
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: and I think Philadelphia they kicked down that door. They

1802
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: weren't afraid, they weren't intimidated, they were ready in the moment.

1803
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 3: And then I think the most important part, which is obvious,

1804
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: but it is worth stating, once they put their foot

1805
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 3: on the gas, they did not let up, right, Because

1806
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 3: we've seen all the stats about Chiefs comebacks and down

1807
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 3: ten points in this and that, and they've had this

1808
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 3: many second half comebacks and this many double digit deficit.

1809
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 4: Comebacks and they just never let up.

1810
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 3: And it's not like they were the only team capable

1811
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: of doing it, not only all year, but I do

1812
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 3: again go back to that Buffalo game where there were

1813
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: just lost opportunities. This isn't a night for Buffalo. It's

1814
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: a night to celebrate Philadelphia. It's a night to ask

1815
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 3: real questions about Kansas City. But it is something that

1816
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: pops in my head is this was not a vintage

1817
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 3: team that you could not beat or that you were

1818
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 3: overmatched at at a bunch of spots. But they found

1819
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 3: a way you didn't. And I just don't know how

1820
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: you can't be frustrated.

1821
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Well, I no doubt, and I also think that there's

1822
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: some validity to this, Like whenever somebody would look at

1823
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,559
Speaker 2: the Chiefs this year if you had said, Okay, why

1824
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 2: do they win? What is it that they're doing to

1825
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 2: other teams? You struggle to answer yes. Usually when someone

1826
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: asks that, you'll go straight to certain players who are

1827
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: dominant and you'll go, yeah, this is really hard for

1828
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: other teams to deal with. But what would happen with

1829
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: the Kansas City assessment is people would go straight to

1830
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 2: the coaches and they would go, yeah, Andy Reid always

1831
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 2: has the right call, and Steve Spagnolo's the best defensive

1832
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: coordinator in the game. Those are all fair comments, But

1833
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: at a certain point, when you get to the end

1834
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: of a year, I'm like, who are your athletes that

1835
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: are overwhelming the opposition? And Kansas City, let's be real,

1836
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 2: and part of it might be because of injury and

1837
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 2: all of that. They've had their share, but they have

1838
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 2: very few who are overwhelming the opposition. I'm sitting here

1839
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: looking at this and I'm fascinated by some of these numbers, Like,

1840
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago that whoever the starting running

1841
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 2: back for the Chiefs was in an Andy Reid system.

1842
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: You're like, that guy's not lasting past the fifth pick

1843
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: in a fantasy football draft. Now do you know how

1844
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: many times a Chiefs running back ran for one hundred

1845
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 2: yards this year the whole year, No idea two wow,

1846
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: two times all year long, and it was one hundred

1847
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 2: and two and one hundred and six, like we were

1848
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 2: eight yards away from it never happening. And I can

1849
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: do it with receivers too. Only four times this year

1850
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: have they had a one hundred yard receiver. I know

1851
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: that the league is not about stats, but other than

1852
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and his fourth quarter poise, I'm struggling to

1853
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 2: look at this Chiefs roster and figure out where, at

1854
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: least on the offensive side of the ball, they're really

1855
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 2: scaring the heck out of the defense.

1856
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 3: Well, and it's so funny because you know, I remember

1857
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 3: I actually was hosting with Jason Martin in this spot

1858
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 3: last year, and one of the themes from this time

1859
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 3: last year was this was the twenty twenty three season.

1860
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be the year you get the

1861
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 3: Chiefs because the I can't remember all details now, but

1862
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: the Mahomes contract kicks in and if you remember, they

1863
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: were what nine to five? That was the year they

1864
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 3: lost to the Vegas Raiders at home on Christmas Day

1865
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 3: and they didn't have home field advantage and they found

1866
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 3: a way. And so I just bring it up because

1867
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 3: this team has been vulnerable, and again, I do think

1868
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 3: some of it is to the credit of them for

1869
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: finding ways, but they've been vulnerable. And to your point,

1870
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 3: it's exactly what I said, and it's what I led

1871
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 3: the show with when I talked about why I did

1872
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 3: like Philly in this game. What is the position group

1873
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 3: outside of having the greatest quarterback, the most clutch quarterback

1874
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 3: that we have in this league right now that you

1875
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 3: were absolutely terrified again? Running back advantage Eagles. Wide receiver

1876
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 3: advantage Eagles by a mile. Just like at running back,

1877
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 3: offensive line. I know they were banged up, but advantage

1878
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: Eagles defensive line. Chris Jones is a Hall of Famer,

1879
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 3: But the totality of the team, it's the Eagles. You know, secondary,

1880
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 3: it's certainly the Eagles with those young corners and et cetera.

1881
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 3: And so it's just to me, I think that's why

1882
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,719
Speaker 3: it's frustrating for other teams too. Is not just Buffalo

1883
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 3: is like, they weren't vintage, they weren't great. And to

1884
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 3: your point, is, what is the spot that you just

1885
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 3: said the opponent doesn't have an answer? For it, and

1886
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 3: like you said, I think they went to the well

1887
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 3: in a close game. Reid is always going to have

1888
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: the right play call, Mahomes is always going to execute it, and.

1889
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 4: By the way, worked all season long.

1890
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 3: But when you're down twenty four to nothing, when you're

1891
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 3: down forty to six, there's no perfect play call when

1892
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 3: you're down forty to six.

1893
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 4: And tonight was obviously the night that it caught.

1894
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 6: Up with them.

1895
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: You mentioned it tonight to celebrate the Eagles, and I

1896
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 2: do have a question for you coming up next, and

1897
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: it is this, what did you think about Nick Sirianni

1898
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year. What are you think

1899
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 2: think about him? Now? We'll get to that coming up next.

1900
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Speaker 2: To be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

1901
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1919
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 2: and it is a postgame Super Bowl party. All Eagles

1920
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 2: all the time, forty to twenty two. What'd you think? Man?

1921
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: What'd you think of Nick Sirianni before the year and

1922
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: what do you think of him now?

1923
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 4: All right? So I just had it and I lost it.

1924
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 3: I put out a tweet in Week three, which was

1925
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: the Philly game in New Orleans, ironically enough, and listen,

1926
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 3: the context of it is obviously important. I know you

1927
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: know this, but just to reiterate, is you know there

1928
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,440
Speaker 3: was talk about should he come back this year? Obviously,

1929
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: and so Eagles open the season kind of an ugly

1930
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 3: win against the Packers in Brazil, Jordan Love gets hurt whatever.

1931
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 3: Then they lose to the Falcons, and they're they're losing

1932
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 3: to the Saints in New Orleans in Week three, and

1933
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 3: so this game, this tweet came out Septem number twenty

1934
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 3: second at eleven forty four am Pacific time, so about

1935
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 3: two forty four Eastern. And this was a tweet from

1936
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 3: September twenty second of this season, So week three of

1937
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: this season. I said, quote, I'm not sure what the

1938
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 3: odds are on Nick Sirianni first coach fired, but it

1939
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: feels like a pretty safe bet right now. This isn't

1940
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 3: quite a tarmac game, but we're inching pretty close towards it.

1941
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 3: And Philly ended up winning fifteen to twelve that game. Ironically,

1942
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 3: if you remember, it was a Saquon Barkley run late

1943
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 3: that kind of iced the game. I was out on him,

1944
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 3: But I'll also say this, I think I was probably

1945
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 3: in from this perspective, probably earlier than most.

1946
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 4: Is that I think part of it is I grew

1947
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 4: up on the East Coast. I grew up in the Northeast.

1948
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 3: I'm from Connecticut originally, and there is a certain personality

1949
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: type that I think thrives not only thrives. But I

1950
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 3: think I think that it's only a personality type, but

1951
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 3: it's a personality type with the city, with the team,

1952
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 3: with this, with the that, and Sirianni to me, is

1953
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 3: just a guy that I do think fits Philly. You know,

1954
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 3: I say this in a positive way. He's a little

1955
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 3: bit crazy, but I think that works in that market.

1956
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 3: And I know you know what I'm talking about, because

1957
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 3: he ashot Rice how many days until people start getting

1958
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 3: mad about something, and he's like, I think we got

1959
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,719
Speaker 3: through tomorrow for sure. But I just think he works

1960
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 3: for that market. I think clearly. Listen, there's like a

1961
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 3: machismo almost in that locker room where guys aren't afraid

1962
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 3: to yell in his face, but he's not afraid to

1963
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 3: yell back. There was even an incident on the sideline,

1964
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 3: and I use that term incident loosely with aj Brown tonight.

1965
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 3: And so I just sit there and say, like probably

1966
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 3: about six eight weeks ago when they really started going

1967
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 3: on the run, I go, you know, he's a little different.

1968
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,839
Speaker 3: You know, he's not polished like McVeigh, he's not whatever.

1969
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 3: But it works for him and it works for that team.

1970
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say six eight weeks ago, I picked

1971
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 3: him to win the Super Bowl, but I was it's like,

1972
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it does work, and maybe it does

1973
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 3: make sense for that guy in that market.

1974
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 4: And now I'll flip it over to you, as a

1975
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 4: guy who covers.

1976
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: An NFC team, in an NFC team, night in and

1977
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 3: night out, what has your perspective been on him and

1978
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: has it changed at all?

1979
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: Well, I have to lay on the sword on this one.

1980
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: I have been very critical of Nick Sirianni, and it

1981
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 2: was born out of two things. First of all, I'm

1982
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 2: always sort of watching demeanor, and I don't want to

1983
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: say that what we see on TV means I know

1984
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 2: everything about what's going on in a locker room or whatnot.

1985
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 2: But to me, Nick Sirianni too often was on the

1986
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 2: sideline trying to make things about Nick Sirianni, and I

1987
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 2: never really I don't dig that when you're the coach,

1988
01:38:55,560 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: I think the coach should push those players forward. Your

1989
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 2: job is to put them in their best position to succeed,

1990
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,600
Speaker 2: and then when they do, give them the light. And

1991
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 2: from the big domb stuff to Sirianne's antics, to some

1992
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 2: of the things he've said to running out in the

1993
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: field whenever anything's going on. I'm just like, dude, top

1994
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 2: it down, top it down. But that's not that big

1995
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 2: of a deal. That's look, he's him, you know, and

1996
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't have to like his demeanor. But secondly, with

1997
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 2: what I watched that team do last year, to me,

1998
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 2: that was emblematic of a coaching and culture problem. When

1999
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 2: you've got a team that's eleven and one and they're

2000
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 2: welcoming the San Francisco forty nine ers into their building.

2001
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 2: I think it was early December, and they got absolutely

2002
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 2: pantsed so bad that they barely ever won another football

2003
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,440
Speaker 2: game again the rest of the year. It just completely crumbled,

2004
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 2: and I looked at that went, man, he doesn't have it.

2005
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't have these guys like they totally mentally wilted.

2006
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 2: So for them to rally back this year with some

2007
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: new pieces, for sure, but kind of lay in the

2008
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: weeds a little bit. Detroit's getting all of the run

2009
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: and they just quietly did their thing and won almost

2010
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 2: all of their football games. And then to get to tonight,

2011
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 2: and I thought he spoke in a way that was

2012
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 2: different than the Nick Sirianni I've seen before. He spoke

2013
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 2: in a way that was to put others first, And

2014
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 2: he paused there on the field after the win and

2015
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 2: leaned down and hugged his kids and picked one of

2016
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 2: them up and had a moment with them and made

2017
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 2: that more important than whatever it was he wanted to

2018
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: say to the microphone. I don't know the man, but

2019
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: he put out a very different vibe today and this

2020
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 2: year that he did last year. So that would be

2021
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 2: one of the things I'd love to ask him if

2022
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 2: I ever got a chance to talk to him, was

2023
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 2: did what did you what did you learn from last year?

2024
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 2: Because he looked like a different guy. He looked like

2025
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 2: a different guy, And so I fall on the sword

2026
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: for things I've said before, and I give him the credit.

2027
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,920
Speaker 2: He did a very very good job turning them around

2028
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 2: this year.

2029
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,560
Speaker 3: Two quick things on that. The first one is a

2030
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 3: little bit off topic, but I think it comes full circle. Okay,

2031
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 3: this was my biggest argument for Saquon being the MVP,

2032
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 3: because things ended so bad last year, and basically, you

2033
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 3: can't say all of the main characters came back because

2034
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 3: obviously there's two new coordinators in that building. But there's

2035
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 3: two new coordinators in that building because they got fired.

2036
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 3: It's not like you know, they all they got head

2037
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 3: coaching jobs like two years ago, was stiking again. And Okay,

2038
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 3: So the point I'm trying to make, if Saquan doesn't

2039
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 3: do what he did, there's a chance that one we

2040
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 3: certainly look at Jalen Hurts in a different manner. Two,

2041
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni is not back as the head coach. I

2042
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 3: default that means that Kellen Moore is no longer a

2043
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 3: head coaching candidate, let alone what we expect to be

2044
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 3: the new Orleans Saints head coach. And so that was

2045
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 3: my whole argument for Saquan all year is he literally

2046
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 3: changed an entire organization, and not only in an organization,

2047
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 3: but the perceptions of everyone in that organization. So that

2048
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 3: was one on Saquad and then two, I was just

2049
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: gonna say, I agree with you on the change in

2050
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 3: the evolution. And I do think sometimes, you know, we

2051
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 3: expect everybody to be a finished product and everyone to

2052
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 3: have all the answers, and sometimes, you know, guys just

2053
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: grow on the job and maybe NFL head coach is

2054
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 3: too important and you need to be buttoned up and

2055
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 3: you need to have all.

2056
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 4: The answers, you need to be perfect.

2057
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, think about you know, belichick second

2058
01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 3: head coaching job with the Patriots. Dan Campbell had been

2059
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 3: an interm interm head coach with the Dolphins to kind

2060
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 3: of figure things out before he gets Detroit. So maybe

2061
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 3: there is a little bit of that with Sirianni as well,

2062
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 3: because I do agree that he was a completely different

2063
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 3: person see this year than in previous years.

2064
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder how this grabs you too, because I

2065
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 2: not only give him the credit. We talked about Howie

2066
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: Roseman earlier and how if you look contractually at a

2067
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 2: lot of what the Philadelphia Eagles are facing this offseason,

2068
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 2: there's every reason to believe that they're going to be

2069
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: a problem for a little while. And that NFC, which

2070
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the year we were like, well,

2071
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 2: it's Lions, it's Niners, it's Packers, and it's maybe the Eagles.

2072
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,639
Speaker 2: But other than that, man, it's pretty slim pickings over there.

2073
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 2: But the AFC, ooh, look at them with all of

2074
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 2: their fancy quarterbacks and this is going to be the

2075
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 2: depth of the AFC. They're coming at you. Don't you

2076
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 2: look at it today and go hold on a second,

2077
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: Hold on a second, because in fact, I'm already looking

2078
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:02,480
Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl odds for next year, and it's

2079
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 2: pretty interesting because you'll see a lot of stories that

2080
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 2: three hours ago Eagles open as favorites to repeat. But

2081
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 2: it's kind of moved already, and the Ravens and Chiefs

2082
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 2: at some books are already moving ahead of them. And

2083
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, no, no, I think that this

2084
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 2: does have some staying power. And you flip back to

2085
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: the NFC where you go not just the Eagles commanders,

2086
01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels, that's a problem. The Lions are going to

2087
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 2: be a squad. I still think the Packers are absolutely

2088
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: going to be a squad. I think that the forty

2089
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 2: nine ers will rally back, and I'd sprinkle in a

2090
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 2: few other interesting teams too, But the Chiefs next year.

2091
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: This isn't so much about Super Bowl hangover. I look

2092
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: at that division and where the whole AFC is going.

2093
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 2: The Broncos had an interesting year, The Chargers had a

2094
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 2: really interesting year. The division gets tougher you play a

2095
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: first place schedule. That's been well discussed today. I don't know, man,

2096
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,600
Speaker 2: I think that I think the Chiefs are gonna have

2097
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:12,520
Speaker 2: a really hard time next year, especially with the expectations

2098
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 2: that are set for them.

2099
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think to me too, I do think

2100
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 3: these playoffs exposed maybe a little bit of just the

2101
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 3: fact that great quarterbacks but flawed teams. Because go back

2102
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 3: to the AFC Championship game, It's like, Josh Allen was great,

2103
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 3: and I know that kind of offensively, they went away

2104
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 3: from the run game and then maybe they just stuck

2105
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 3: with it. But I mean, is there and you mentioned

2106
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,719
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett earlier, I mean, is there any defensive player

2107
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 3: on Buffalo? And maybe I'm missing somebody. I know ed

2108
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,400
Speaker 3: Oliver was pretty good, especially in that game against Kansas City,

2109
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 3: But they don't got the dudes on defense that Detroit has,

2110
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,840
Speaker 3: that Philly has, that some of these other teams have

2111
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 3: across the league. And then obviously we saw in the

2112
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 3: Super Bowl this evening that, yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs

2113
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,600
Speaker 3: are a fundamentally flawed team. And to the point you

2114
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 3: brought up earlier in the show, maybe we sort of

2115
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 3: knew that all along, but we weren't quite sure and

2116
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,600
Speaker 3: they kept winning games, so we kind of ignored it.

2117
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 3: But the Chiefs have a lot of holes on that team.

2118
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 3: I think the Bills have a lot of holes you know,

2119
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:17,600
Speaker 3: I think that there is something certainly too great quarterbacks

2120
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 3: incomplete teams in the AFC and the NFC, you know,

2121
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 3: B to B plus quarterbacks, whether it's Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, etc.

2122
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Jordan Love maybe gets there, gets to another level in time,

2123
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 3: but those rosters are much more by the way the

2124
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 3: Vikings right plug and play, Kirk Cousins leave, Sam Darnold

2125
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 3: comes in there, they're awesome again. And so I think

2126
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 3: there's absolutely something too. Maybe we undervalued the NFC and

2127
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 3: the totality of their rosters, and frankly, maybe we overvalued

2128
01:46:45,240 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 3: some of the AFC rosters as well well.

2129
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 2: And Miles Garrett, I'm glad you brought him up. If

2130
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: history is any indication Miles Garrett will play in the

2131
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 2: NFC next year, because you watch what teams do whenever

2132
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 2: they get stuck in that situation of Okay, we've got

2133
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 2: a really good player and he wants out, Well, we're

2134
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 2: not trading him within the division and would rather not

2135
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,719
Speaker 2: trade him in the conference. Maybe in this case because

2136
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 2: Cleveland's not really in a position to do anything special

2137
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 2: over the next couple of years, but they're going to

2138
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Speaker 2: want to send him to the other conference, and so

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Speaker 2: one of these NFC teams because he wants to win

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01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 2: a title. So I would gather that most of the

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01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 2: teams that are going to be going after him where

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Speaker 2: he'll say, hey, y'all, I'll sign an extension with you,

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01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 2: they're going to be those teams we just talked about.

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Speaker 2: So I would argue, and I'm actually looking at Miles

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01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Garrett odds for next year, like, where would you love

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01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 2: to see him play? Where's a good fit for him

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01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 2: next year?

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01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the place that I think needs him

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01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 3: is Buffalo. But I think to your point, are you

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01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 3: going to be in a rush to trade for him

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01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 3: or trade him to a team in your conference? And

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01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 3: so I think the obvious ones that stand out. You

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01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 3: know what, I think Washing is the obvious one, and

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01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. It's because they got a quarterback

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01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 3: on a rookie contract for.

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01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 4: Several more years.

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01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 2: So that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: cut you off there, but that's the one that jumps

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01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 4: out to me. What about you?

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Speaker 2: Well, Washington is the second favorite on the list. The

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01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 2: number one favorite is the Dallas Cowboys, And I think

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01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 2: that's say, because yeah, they well, because they're the Dallas

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01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 2: Cowboys and they don't have any good players.

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Speaker 3: Like today cap from they're paying Tech Prescott ninety million

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01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 3: dollars a year.

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Speaker 4: Slight over exaggeration, but not much.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: I know, Well, when you combine Dak and Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: and then the Micah Parsons situation, clearly their cap has

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01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 2: been mismanaged. Other teams are able to do stuff like this,

2172
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: and they're able to maneuver, and they're able to restructure,

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01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 2: and they can make room on the cap seemingly whenever

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Speaker 2: they want. But Dallas was like, I'm sorry, we have

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Speaker 2: two good players, so that's it. Like Derrick Henry, Hell no,

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01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 2: we couldn't even think of such a thing. Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And then you never ran for a first down all

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01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: year long, So like, I doubt that for the reasons

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Speaker 2: that you just mentioned. But yes, Washington is high on

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01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,719
Speaker 2: the list. The next NFC team after that is the Niners.

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01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 2: The next one after that is the Eagles, then followed

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01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: by the Packers, followed by the Lions. Like it's going

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01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 2: to be one of those teams and whoever gets that guy,

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01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:26,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm moving them way up the rankings immediately.

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01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 2: He's that much of a game changer.

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Speaker 3: No, he's that much of a game changer, and it

2187
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:35,519
Speaker 3: will be in shame. Like I said, I think what

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01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 3: was I gonna say? I think Washington makes the most sense.

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01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:42,800
Speaker 3: What's interesting about Detroit is that Detroit still has a

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01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 3: lot of guys on rookie contracts that are slowly coming off.

2191
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 3: I know that Piney Sewell and i'm Ona ros Saint

2192
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 3: Brown have signed big extensions that I don't believe had

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01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 3: kicked in this year, but maybe next year. So I

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Speaker 3: only bring it up because, you know, you look at

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Speaker 3: that team again, Jamison Williams, Jamier Gibbs, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: Brian brand On and on down there's still a lot

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Speaker 3: of guys that are on very affordable contracts.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So, look, I would love to see him on the Lions,

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01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 3: but uh, if not, I think the Commanders make the

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Speaker 3: most sense. I'll be honest, Dallas makes zero sense to me,

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01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 3: but I think it's gonna be Sorry guy, Yeah.

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01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,080
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say. If I'm Miles.

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01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 4: Garrett, yeah that's true too.

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01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 2: Good God, I do not want to go to Dallas.

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01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that that one's weird to me.

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01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 2: I don't.

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01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what the odds makers are thinking with that.

2209
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's something that I'm missing, but I would venture

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01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 3: to guess the Commanders Again. I watching that AFC Championship game.

2211
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 3: I think the Bills need help up front. But to

2212
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 3: your point, are the are the Are the Browns gonna

2213
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 3: be in a rush to trade him to a team

2214
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 3: in the AFC? I don't know, but I think it'll

2215
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,680
Speaker 3: be an interesting storyline in the offseason for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, of all those NFC teams, I

2217
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 2: will tell you why there might be an edge. If

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01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm the Browns, there might be an edge for the

2219
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 2: same Francisco forty nine ers. And the reason is we

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01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: just listed all the supposed good teams, and all those

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01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 2: good teams, all the other ones played well this year.

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01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: Therefore their draft pick. Their draft pick is twenty five,

2223
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. Niners have eleven. And

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01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: if I'm Cleveland and one of those teams is like, sure,

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01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: we'll offer you our first round draft pick. Well, which

2226
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 2: one am I gonna take?

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Speaker 4: It's great call.

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Speaker 2: And so I wonder, and you mentioned Detroit. God, if

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01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 2: the Niners were to pair him with Bosa or Detroit

2230
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 2: was able to pair him with Hutchinson lookout, lookout and

2231
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles, I mean, watching their d line tonight, do

2232
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: they need someone else? They look fine?

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01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes certainly hopes that that he doesn't end up

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01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:54,679
Speaker 3: with the Eagles. I can tell you that much, because

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01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 3: if they face him off again, I mean, I still

2236
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 3: go back to I know, we've talked about it for

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01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 3: three hours right now. With the dominance of that defensive

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01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 3: line was insane. And by the way, this is why

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01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 3: we are talking about Miles Garrett. You can see the difference,

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Speaker 3: that difference maker that you can see the difference that

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Speaker 3: guys like him make up front for just about any team.

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Speaker 2: It's been almost an all super Bowl night. But I

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01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 2: do want to ask you about Aaron Rodgers, and so

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Speaker 2: we'll do that coming up next. We're in the tyrak

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Speaker 2: dot com studios with Aaron Torres. I'm Mark Willard on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're sitting here on the ti rag

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. Do you have anything you wanted to

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01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: say about the halftime show? What'd you think?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 3: Truthfully, Mark Willard, my only real takeaway this was the

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Speaker 3: first halftime show.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was good.

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Speaker 3: But the reason it's hard for me to criticize is

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01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 3: because Kendrick Lamar is the first musician that I you know,

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Speaker 3: of this this run that they've had.

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Speaker 4: That I didn't grow up on.

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Speaker 3: So like I grew up on Usher, I grew up

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01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,840
Speaker 3: on you know, fifty cent in eminem when they were

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01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,519
Speaker 3: a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: I even used to jam out to a little Shakira

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01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 4: and j Lo when they were on.

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Speaker 3: Kendrick Lamar is you know, he's a little bit I'm

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01:53:06,240 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 3: a little bit old to have Kendrick Lamar bumping in

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01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 3: the club when I used to go to the clubs,

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01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 3: and it's been a while since I've been to the club.

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Speaker 3: So I just straight up to say, I kind of

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01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 3: went in knowing that I kind of know like one

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01:53:17,479 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 3: ish songs. The presentation didn't really impress me. But again,

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01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 3: when it's not my music, how am I going to

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01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 3: complain about the you know, about the the overall product.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's fair, and I'd say this while portions of

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01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: what you just said would absolutely apply to me too.

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01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I also gathered around and watched this with my teenage

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01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: children and that helps a lot. And I'd also say

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01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm partially tapped in enough, just enough to know that

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01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 2: the beauty of Kendrick's performance tonight was not indivisual or

2277
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: obvious aspect. I encourage everybody listening, especially if you didn't

2278
01:54:04,439 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 2: like it, and if you don't care, you don't care,

2279
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 2: but take a minute and do a dive on all

2280
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 2: of the hidden and not so hidden messaging that was

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01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:20,679
Speaker 2: going on in the Kendrick performance tonight. I actually think

2282
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 2: that that was the core of what he was doing.

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01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: And so there I get what you're saying, because to

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01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 2: a degree it felt like a big inside joke. Sure

2285
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like it was like

2286
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 2: you have to be in the fraternity to know what

2287
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 2: we're doing here. But that's the beauty of the internet too.

2288
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 2: You go find out about it right now because there's

2289
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: already stuff everywhere, and so you know, visually wasn't a

2290
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 2: big deal. Maybe not, But in terms of the way

2291
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 2: that the everything he did landed, I would say there

2292
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 2: was some power behind it.

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01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 3: That is what I will say is I have not

2294
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 3: kept up to date with the Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef,

2295
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 3: but the people that have seemed to certainly get get

2296
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 3: some enjoyment out of that performance. Mary Mack, who's obviously

2297
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 3: very plugged in in the music world, is wagging her

2298
01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 3: finger like the late to Kembe Matumbo. So I don't

2299
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 3: know what it means, but all hip cool young kids

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01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 3: like Mary Mack do, and I think that's all that matters.

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01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a lot that was going on in

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01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 2: that halftime show. Yeah, there's a lot that was going on.

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01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 2: So anyway, Yeah, I thought I thought it had some

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01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 2: some some some good juice to it. But where where

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01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: do you think Aaron Rodgers is gonna play football next year?

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01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Cfl and ufl are off the table, right, I will

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01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 3: ask you and all is there a market for Aaron Rodgers? I?

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, and I'm curious what you would think

2310
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 4: on that.

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01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think there's one at a high level, but

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01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 2: I do see a couple of teams out there where

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01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: you're kind of lie, huh. Are we in a situation

2314
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,840
Speaker 2: where this kind of makes sense in a near term

2315
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:15,440
Speaker 2: or short term partially because either they're transitioning or quite frankly,

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01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:19,680
Speaker 2: they need some almost like some marketing. Like if I'm

2317
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans, what the hell do I have to

2318
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: lose who who is my quarterback? Are we even watchable

2319
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 2: right now? So I wonder about that. I don't know

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01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 2: what what are the Pittsburgh Steelers doing at quarterbacks next year?

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01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: I wonder about teams like that. That's you know, that's

2322
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:47,720
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody is going to say, hey, you're

2323
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 2: our guy, you know, for for any period of time.

2324
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 2: But do the New York Do the New York Giants

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01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:56,720
Speaker 2: want to draft someone and then be like, you know,

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Speaker 2: come here for a year or for whatever, until until

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01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 2: that person is ready to roll and is aeron up

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01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 2: for that. I could see that.

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 3: Well, the one thing I will say, you look at

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:10,839
Speaker 3: this top ten, you know, and I love college football.

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01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 3: I think there's two ish quarterbacks that I like, you know,

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01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 3: obviously Shedor Sanders and cam Ward. And you look at

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01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 3: that top ten. Tennessee needs a quarterback. Cleveland he needs

2334
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 3: a long term answer. New York needs a quarterback. Vegas

2335
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 3: needs a quarterback. The Jets ironically will not be Aaron

2336
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 3: Rodgers landing spot, but they need a quarterback.

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01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 4: New Orleans maybe he needs a quarterback. So I just

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01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 4: bring it up.

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01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 3: You play the musical chairs. There's a lot more chairs

2340
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 3: than guys to fill those chairs. So from that perspective,

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01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 3: I guess I could see the scenario where he does

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01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 3: land somewhere. I'll say this, how about the Cleveland Browns?

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01:57:43,320 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 3: I mean, Deshaun Watson is they have the second pick,

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01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 3: So that's what kind of makes it interesting. Sure, but

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01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 3: Sean Watson's obviously not playing next year, and so I mean,

2346
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 3: is that a spot where hey come here for a

2347
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 3: year rehabilitate, But then does Aaron Rodgers want to play

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 3: in Cleveland? So I'm curious because I do think when

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Speaker 3: we talk it out, there are probably, as I said,

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Speaker 3: more chairs than guys to fill those chairs as far

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Speaker 3: as need at quarterback, So maybe there is a spot

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Speaker 3: form After.

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Speaker 2: All, that's probably the division he should look at. But

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Speaker 2: it's also not a very winnable division like that would

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Speaker 2: be if I'm Aaron, what's my goal? Am I looking

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Speaker 2: for a spot where I actually think we could do something?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine Aaron Rodgers beating Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson next year, but it's not a bad call.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's probably the division that has a spot

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Speaker 2: for him. Great stuff, tonight.

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Speaker 4: Man, Thank you for having me. Man, it's such a pleasure,

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Speaker 4: with such an honor to do this show with you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Super Bowl is in the rearview mirror. The

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Speaker 2: Eagles win, this show is in the rearview mirror. Too bye.