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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour Golden Hour. We are

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Speaker 1: here with Cindy for part two of our discussion with her.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you stick around. You don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 1: I have a question, and this is this is something

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Speaker 1: I heard. So I know that we talked about Amy

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Speaker 1: feeling bullied. Somebody told me and I don't know who

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Speaker 1: it was, might have even been you, Cindy, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I love that energy, We.

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Speaker 1: Love your energy. But someone said that Peg and Terry

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Speaker 1: want to take over Susan's in my podcast. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard that? No, I say, I heard that. Is that true, Cindy?

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Speaker 1: Have you heard that?

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Speaker 3: I'm blocked, but.

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Speaker 4: Well, I heard that they do have some Instagram live

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Speaker 4: presence and I love you that those two have aspirations

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Speaker 4: and they've not shared with me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Susan, Peg.

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Speaker 2: I've spent time with both of them in Vegas and

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel any of that vibe.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember somebody's said they, Okay, Susan, what

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Speaker 1: do we say to Peg and Terry taking off our podcast?

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Speaker 2: That ain't happening. I'll have you on my podcast.

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Speaker 1: But not happening, not happening.

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Speaker 4: It's embarrassing ladies. It's embarrassing. We are goldens. We should

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Speaker 4: have a separate standard for who we are. It's I

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Speaker 4: wish this happy couple, well, we all want something from

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Speaker 4: the Bachelor to work out forever because I feel I'd

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Speaker 4: like to know how you feel. But I feel that

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Speaker 4: this process can yield forever love.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it happen.

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Speaker 3: We have watches and stop with this.

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Speaker 4: I think this, what we're seeing, this behavior right now

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Speaker 4: is worse than the younger version, and it's embarrassing as

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Speaker 4: a golden.

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Speaker 3: To to and then to have them.

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Speaker 4: Represent themselves for our entire generation like back off.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 1: So Susan El and I've talked about Gary and Teresa

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Speaker 1: like that debacle, and I thought, but to your point,

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Speaker 1: Cindy as a golden where all three of us as goldens,

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Speaker 1: we want to exemplify good by example. We want to

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Speaker 1: lead exactly, lead by example. And I feel like all

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Speaker 1: this ripping on people and.

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Speaker 2: Gary and Teresa did it too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm saying is.

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Speaker 2: On everybody's podcast and this that and his word her word.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, come home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel the same way, Susan.

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Speaker 4: Then and then they feel like they have to defend

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Speaker 4: it and come back with something else, and you know,

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Speaker 4: this whole back and forth.

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Speaker 3: I feel just just sho.

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Speaker 1: You don't Cindy, Yeah, you don't have to, but I

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Speaker 1: will say.

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Speaker 2: Woman that knows what she wants, your beautiful inside and out.

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Speaker 3: Jusn't let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 4: What if someone posted on She's All Match and said

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Speaker 4: Susan is lying.

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Speaker 2: Wow, because my reaction, as long as I don't react,

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Speaker 2: I'm better off. But my reaction would be proved them wrong.

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Speaker 2: But the better person would just laugh and say it's

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Speaker 2: a shame because you're making a fool letter yourself.

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Speaker 1: Bless her little hearts little Wait a second, that's that

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Speaker 1: is a Southern ext question, Cindy. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: say what that means?

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Speaker 2: You don't need to. I think the world knows well

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Speaker 2: you know the story Cindy that I did not know. Wait,

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Speaker 2: I still think hooking up is kissing.

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Speaker 1: But Kathy, yeah, I had no idea she did. I

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Speaker 1: just but I have to say, you know, I spend

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Speaker 1: my life vacuuming, cleaning out cat boxes, and listening to

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Speaker 1: Megan pell on Pagan mel on various podcasts. This is

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Speaker 1: what I spend my life doing. And I got to say,

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Speaker 1: I to your point, Cindy, I really wish we could

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Speaker 1: lead by example and be golden goldens and have people

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Speaker 1: be proud of us. And I will say, once and

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Speaker 1: for all, I don't understand You're not perfect, Cindy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not either, as Susan, but I truly don't understand the

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Speaker 1: need for anyone to cast dispersions on you anyone. I

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Speaker 1: don't care who it is.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm at Then and Ashley, they weren't part

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Speaker 4: of our show.

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Speaker 3: They were neutral parties.

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Speaker 4: They were asking questions, and then to throw accusations towards

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Speaker 4: them and to say that they haven't experienced anything and

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Speaker 4: when they're are aged, they'll have a different perspective. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm your age, and I already have a different perspective,

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Speaker 4: learned and actually have done nothing. And they are class acts.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think Ben and Ashley are amazing interviewers.

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Speaker 1: I think they're lovely people. And I love that Ben

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Speaker 1: said in his rebuttal, if you will something like I

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Speaker 1: don't even think about divorce. I am happily married. I

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Speaker 1: love my wife. We are built on solid rock. I

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Speaker 1: love that It's as if to say, if you're not

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Speaker 1: getting divorced, you haven't lived, you know. I mean that just.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard like a statement made from either one

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Speaker 2: of them against you, attacking you.

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Speaker 1: Well, then you haven't listened to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: What's been said has been You can take it either way.

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Speaker 1: You see Simpsy's line.

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Speaker 2: No, I did not see that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I say. You didn't listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You gotta listen. It's I just.

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Speaker 2: Listened to Mills and the only thing he kept saying was,

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Speaker 2: don't interview anybody else? Interview Peg again?

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Speaker 4: Can you just believe that no else on our show

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Speaker 4: is worthy of being interviewed?

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Speaker 2: Everybody's worthy of an inn?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: When I have a question I can't remember, could somebody

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Speaker 1: tell me? Is what does mel do for a living?

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Speaker 1: And I played college football.

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Speaker 3: Not just college, he played in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry asking, Yeah, I'm just I'm just pulling your

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Speaker 5: I'm guessing the stay happy, enjoying it, and I feel

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Speaker 5: bad for like there was you know, we were out

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Speaker 5: in California and they had evidently called Carol.

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Speaker 4: Over Christmas and they were left a video at a

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Speaker 4: they center, a video like hey, this is us, here's

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Speaker 4: our our promised glasses, here's our promise bracelets, and just

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Speaker 4: kind of poking fun about a statement that she made

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Speaker 4: about getting a promise ring when she was fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what, well, too many pronouns who got a promise

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Speaker 1: ring when they were fourteen?

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Speaker 4: Carol got a promise fourteen? And she shared that, like,

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Speaker 4: why would we end up nobody went on the show

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Speaker 4: to get a promise ring?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I had that when I was fourteen.

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Speaker 4: And so she, you know, she thought that they were

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Speaker 4: being playful with her at Christmas, and so she taped

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Speaker 4: another video about looking into a store for a promise ring,

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Speaker 4: but all the jewelry was gone because the store was closed,

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Speaker 4: and she thought it was funny.

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Speaker 3: And then, you know, I think that they took offense

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Speaker 3: to it. So we can poke fun at them, but

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Speaker 3: we don't know.

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Speaker 4: What their sensitivities are. Clearly they're sensitive to something. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to poke fun at a sensitivity of theirs

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Speaker 4: that they can't have it both ways either, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute? Are you doing one second?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the statement of a conditioned out wait?

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Speaker 4: Say that it's funny to talk about it's a promise

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Speaker 4: bracelet and promise ear rings.

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Speaker 3: I mean it promised sunglasses.

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Speaker 4: But when somebody else brings up a promise and it's

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Speaker 4: not funny, So it's like you can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 1: So how do you feel about that, Cindy, do you

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Speaker 1: feel forget you know, forget whatever he said about the

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Speaker 1: ring with Peg? Do you feel like the point of

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Speaker 1: the show was to get engaged? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: problem with Do you think that was disingenuous for him

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Speaker 1: to say, Look, I'm not ready to get engaged. How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I feel I've said that from the get go. Not

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Speaker 4: only did he stand in front of us in person

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Speaker 4: at the road ceremony and no one's holding a gun

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Speaker 4: to his head, but he is saying, I think my wife,

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Speaker 4: my future wife might.

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Speaker 3: Be in his group.

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Speaker 4: I love being married. He talked about marriage as if

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Speaker 4: that was you know, and everybody goes on this plan

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Speaker 4: knowing that that is kind of the path that you're taking,

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Speaker 4: and not that you get married at the end of

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Speaker 4: the show and or two months later. But that is

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Speaker 4: kind of why people go on the Bachelors to find

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Speaker 4: their person and the show. I do love that Peg

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Speaker 4: and Mal have found their own thing. I don't think

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Speaker 4: that's the example that I want to set for future generations,

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Speaker 4: that when you're in your sixties and seventies that you

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Speaker 4: can just do whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: I still think meeting together.

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Speaker 4: A family, showing those commitments, following through with commitments are

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Speaker 4: a vital part of our society, a vital part of civilization,

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Speaker 4: and I'm not giving up on it.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that you believe going on the show

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Speaker 1: should terminate at some point in a marriage.

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Speaker 2: No, an engage to me.

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Speaker 1: No, that's not what she said.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I think.

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Speaker 4: That the point of going on the show, if you're

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Speaker 4: going to agree to being the lead or a contestant,

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Speaker 4: you should go in with an open heart, knowing that

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Speaker 4: if you do find your person on the show, that

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Speaker 4: you are ready and healed to take the next step

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Speaker 4: to have the commitment, to get to know each other better,

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Speaker 4: to further that commitment, and if it doesn't have to

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Speaker 4: end in marriage. There's a lot of reasons why people

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Speaker 4: can't get married again. You know, there's financial reasons that

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Speaker 4: people are nervous about sure providing the wealth that what

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Speaker 4: that should go to their children.

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Speaker 3: There's there's some reasons, but I feel that.

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Speaker 4: Our generation should do a better job of showing everyone,

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Speaker 4: including ourselves.

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Speaker 3: That commitment is worth it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think. I can't imagine anyone taking issue

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Speaker 1: with that. I did find it interesting on the show,

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Speaker 1: peg said she was looking we did. Sorry.

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Speaker 4: I think they did take issue with it that you

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Speaker 4: could live every day and just have fun, and that's.

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Speaker 2: That's their that was their kind of thing. That's where

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Speaker 2: they both were no commitments, Let's just go have fun.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what the show was about. For me,

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Speaker 2: I've watched it for years. It was a love story.

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Speaker 2: It's about a love story.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. Yes, I agree, I agree. Let's

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Speaker 3: do it over again. Let's see your season back.

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Speaker 1: And we're coming back.

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Speaker 3: Wait second, we could piece together.

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Speaker 1: So so yeah, Well it's interesting because on the show,

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Speaker 1: Pegg had said she's just looking for a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: That's what she kept saying on the show, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a nice guy. Seems that she found a nice.

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Speaker 3: Guy perfect together.

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Speaker 4: Feel that you just should not have a lead on

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Speaker 4: the Golden Bachelor who is not prepared to take it

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Speaker 4: all the way. And they could admit in the wild

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Speaker 4: they this was just not the format for that, And

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Speaker 4: so if you want to have that format, there's.

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Speaker 3: Other dating shows.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that that is Kathy and Cindy? Why

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Speaker 3: I love you, ladies.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, that is a perfect way to

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Speaker 2: At this absolutely and the next time in Austin, you

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Speaker 3: I've got some places to take you.

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Speaker 2: Kathy. I know this is not normal, we don't normally

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Speaker 1: I don't know where do you want to start.

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Speaker 2: Since, first of all, she was a perfect lady, as

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, who's everybody? It's me and Sidney. Listen. You know,

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Speaker 2: You've always, I said them, Well, you've always said positive

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Speaker 1: Well are we are? You and I always say the

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Speaker 2: He said that a lot. But I just don't understand.

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Speaker 2: To me, blocking people would be something if you're hearing

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Speaker 2: Well, this gives us an idea gat since you're living

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go live and coffee dog, We're

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Speaker 1: But what did you think about Cindy saying that she

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Speaker 2: I don't forget me walking because we've moved.

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Speaker 2: But why are they hearing things? Maybe somebody's whispering down

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Speaker 2: And what I said to her and I quote we

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Speaker 2: What's going down now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I agree, I don't know. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: It's not my you know, a PEG if your body

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Speaker 1: even though you could do that either did I? But

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Speaker 1: that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. And you know me. If

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Speaker 1: I say something, I admit to it right, you know

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Speaker 1: me behind it. So I've never said anything about them

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Speaker 1: other than I wish them happiness. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Peg and Mel, if you are listening, you got nothing

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Speaker 2: from but love coming from us. And if there's a

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Speaker 2: reason that you blocked Kathy, I wish I knew what

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Speaker 2: it was, because she's never wished you ill at all.

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Speaker 2: She's very happy for.

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Speaker 1: You, honestly. Honestly, Mel and Peg, I'm envious how many

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Speaker 1: times I have said that, Yes, I would love to

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Speaker 1: find my person and I'm so envious, Mel you could

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Speaker 1: have taken me to Brazil and I will in.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowl. We could go or the Super Bowl because.

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Speaker 1: By the way, now, by the way, I am a

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots fan. I mean I sat out in

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Speaker 1: the cold for years with season tickets. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not too like give me a call, I'll meet

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Speaker 1: you there with peg, with peg not trying to steal anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like this between what's happened

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Speaker 1: with Ben and Ashley, who I admire. I think they

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Speaker 1: are both very good podcasts, very good, and I admire them.

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Speaker 1: They good, good human beings, and I just I hope

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Speaker 1: that both of them will sit back and reflect on

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Speaker 1: their words. And when you ask who else dould we

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Speaker 1: have on the podcast, you don't say no one, You

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Speaker 1: don't dismiss them, You don't have that sort of arrogance

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't good. But I kept thinking it was in

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Speaker 2: a defense mood, like he didn't want them to interview

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Speaker 2: anybody that we're going to talk about them. You interview

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Speaker 2: people to see what their experience was like the show.

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Speaker 2: That's all that's about. They're reading way too much into

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Speaker 2: it to make those statements.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna ask you a question. I'm putting you

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Speaker 1: on the spot here. Do you think, well, no, I

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Speaker 1: am putting you on the spot. Do you think that? Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're together? But do you think that? And I you know,

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Speaker 1: I hate this expression. Do you think they came on

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Speaker 1: there for the right reasons? Because now I'm doubting it?

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Speaker 2: No, I do I Do you think mel came on

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Speaker 2: to find his person? He's different than most men? He did.

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Speaker 2: He says it in every podcast, he says it in

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Speaker 2: every interview. His idea is not all up front and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to fall in love right now. It takes

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Speaker 2: him time, and I respect that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: I don't need help the show, but I do respect it.

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Speaker 1: Susan, I just have one more question. When are you

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Speaker 1: gonna and I gonna be the Golden Bachelorette.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give me a whole new show for us, Guthy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up. I just I just want to

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Speaker 1: round this out by saying, I hope nothing but love.

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Speaker 1: Show the love. Guys, be an example to other people.

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Speaker 1: You know, don't throw shade. How many times have I

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Speaker 1: said that today?

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Speaker 2: It's almost as they feel what it looks like, like

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Speaker 2: they're being attacked or something, and they're lashing back out

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Speaker 2: and no one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's the part.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So we wish them well, we wish no problem finding.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, men fall over her. Wait, Susan, I

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Speaker 1: was about to say, peg Mel, reach out to me

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Speaker 1: and and tell me what you're thinking. They thought they can't.

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Speaker 1: They blocked me, block me. Please don't block me.

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Speaker 2: She has your phone number. She blocked it there too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I should. I haven't

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Speaker 1: not texted her, you know what, Like we wish you

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Speaker 1: will and one thing I will say, one thing I've learned.

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Speaker 1: And how many times if I say this life is short,

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Speaker 1: and you guys, pay attention to the life you have

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Speaker 1: because once it's taken from you, you can never go back.

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Speaker 1: So you enjoy each other and stop stop making other

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Speaker 1: people look bad. It's just not a good look. Be kind,

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Speaker 1: be kind.

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Speaker 2: You know, she's always been kind, We've I've always had

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Speaker 2: fun with her. So we've never talked about Cindy Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where that came from. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, you heard what I said on the podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm. I was on debate team in

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Speaker 1: high school. The only logical thing is that he felt

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Speaker 1: humiliated that Cindy. I can see that. I get it

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Speaker 1: that he felt humiliated, angry and shocked that Cindy left.

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Speaker 1: And then whatever anyone wants to think, you know what,

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Speaker 1: You're left with two choices. We had to pick her.

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Speaker 2: For people thinking that you know, so do I? You

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Speaker 2: know what he wanted?

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Speaker 1: Peg, so and so go on and live your life,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and be happy together. And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be trailing right behind you looking for the guy.

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Speaker 2: And I'm happy for them. They were just in real

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Speaker 2: they're having a ball.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, this has been great. Listen. Please send in

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Speaker 1: your questions and comment comment episode.

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Speaker 2: We will know what you guys think.

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Speaker 1: Please you know what to do. Go to Bachelor nation

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Golden Hour send us all your comments.

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Speaker 1: We really do want to hear what you have to say.

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Speaker 1: And Peg and Mel we love you. Start showing love

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Speaker 1: to the rest of us because we love you.

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Speaker 2: And that does it. For part two of Cindy, listen

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Speaker 2: to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 2: or where ever you listen to your podcast. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: till next next time.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week.

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