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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahada Charma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs be writers over at the Athletic Patrick, it is

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Speaker 1: another mailbag episode. We I love these episodes because we

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Speaker 1: always get a ton of interaction from the fans and

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Speaker 1: they always hit on the biggest topics of the you know,

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Speaker 1: of the week, of the month, of the time. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's get right into it. Of course, the very deadline

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Speaker 1: is still two months away, a little less than two

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Speaker 1: months away, but it's gonna be the topic. This team

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Speaker 1: is competing. This team is good. He has done really

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Speaker 1: well against these weaker teams, and we're gonna get plenty

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Speaker 1: of questions. How do they improve? Who is the most

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Speaker 1: likely to be created for front end starting pitching or

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Speaker 1: back end bullpen arm or are both almost a lock

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Speaker 1: this point? At this point, which prospects go in the trades?

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Speaker 1: As far as prospects that go in the trades, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we have talked about this. I struggled to name names

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Speaker 1: just because you just don't know. Like I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: there's no untouchable prospect. If you're on the major league roster.

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Speaker 1: They're likely not going to move you unless it's like

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Speaker 1: some insane deal that became it's around right now. But

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Speaker 1: so I'd say there's no untouchable prospect, is how I'd

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Speaker 1: do that. I've stated plainly that I think starting pitching,

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Speaker 1: I think they should go for an ace, whoever that

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Speaker 1: may be, Sandiel Contra, whoever may become available. There was

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Speaker 1: a question about Zach Gallon if he becomes available, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go get the best available starting pitching and be as

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Speaker 1: aggressive as possible. That that's what I think. Figure out

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Speaker 1: bullpen if you want to. That's a secondary move in

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Speaker 1: my mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I think Matt summed up what all Cubs fans are

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Speaker 3: locked in on at this point, and even you know,

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Speaker 3: within the clubhouse, within the front office. This is the

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Speaker 3: stuff that they're going to be talking about constantly. To me,

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Speaker 3: I think the starting pitching is a is a greater need.

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Speaker 3: It's harder to solve internally on that. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: seen the bullpen churn and guys get hot, and you

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Speaker 3: can kind of ring some value out of the guys

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Speaker 3: off the scrap heap if you put them in the

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Speaker 3: right situations. I just think covering bulk innings is just

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Speaker 3: going to be harder, particularly if the Cubs experience another

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Speaker 3: injury in the rotation, which is very reasonable to expect.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jed Hoyer essentially said that that we expect

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Speaker 3: these injuries are going to continue, so we have to

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Speaker 3: plan accordingly. I still think they make moves to fortify

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Speaker 3: both to get, you know, whatever, the strongest version of

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Speaker 2: That's what you have to aim for. But I think you.

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Speaker 3: Put your resources towards the front of the rotation and

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Speaker 3: which prospects go. I mean, it's almost to me like

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Speaker 3: who cares at this point? Like you have belt Stucker

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Speaker 3: for one year, you have, if not the best team

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Speaker 3: in the National League, one of the best. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think everyone you gotta respect the Dodgers, you know,

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Speaker 3: the Phillies and Mets are really good teams. Other teams

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Speaker 3: are gonna step forward that maybe we're not even thinking

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Speaker 3: of at this moment, But these opportunities are rare. You

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Speaker 3: have a front office in a lame duck situation and like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not like becomes twenty fourteen Chris

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Speaker 3: Bryant waiting in their farm system. Like, I think there

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Speaker 3: are lots of nice players, there's depth, there's pieces. There

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Speaker 3: could be some everyday guys there. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: many of those guys you are gonna knock out, you know,

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Speaker 3: the the group that you currently have playing at Wrigley Field,

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Speaker 3: and the pitching prospects, they're gonna get injured. If I

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Speaker 3: was the Cubs, I would just cash those in and

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Speaker 3: get help right now and worry about the rest later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean remember when we talked about this. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this in the dugout the other day, Patrick,

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Speaker 1: but like Ian Half was supposed to be traded every.

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Speaker 2: Every like that's why they drafted him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we Yeah, he's going to be traded. He's

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Speaker 1: us to try and predict who's going to be traded,

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Speaker 1: I think is foolish. You you touched on basically this

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Speaker 1: next question. Do you think any other team will be

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Speaker 1: That's from Aaron Schmidt Schmidel Koper. Look, Aaron had more

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker is on a one year deal. Jed Hoyer,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jed, you know, I think Jed may

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Speaker 1: still he needs to finish the job of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: So he has incentive both in the sense that he

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kyle Tucker will only be here for

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Speaker 1: one year. I'm saying we don't know if Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 1: of Saya Suzuki. This is a next level that Craig

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Speaker 1: a great season, all these things, all these reasons, and

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Speaker 1: you have this weakness, which is pitching, and focus on

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Speaker 1: the starting pitching. You have to be aggressive. It's not

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Speaker 1: like there are eight needs. There's one huge, very obvious

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Speaker 1: think that. So it's just a it's a very obvious need,

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Speaker 1: been saying it for months. Every team goes and gets

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Speaker 1: bullpen pitching. I'm not sure if the Cubs will go

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Speaker 1: be surprised if they're aggressive, the most aggressive team to

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Speaker 1: Someone may come with a better offer, just may have

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Speaker 1: better players to offer. The Comes have a really good system, though,

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Speaker 1: and it's deep enough that they can, especially at the

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Speaker 1: triple A level teams. This was maybe two thousand and

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Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen. THEO it said something that just sticks

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Speaker 1: in my head. There are two huge currencies in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Obviously finances financial flexibility. The second is near major league

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Speaker 1: Cubs actually have quite a few of those players. So

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Speaker 1: use that, like, use that leverage, and you have all

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Speaker 1: these reasons to be aggressive. I see no reason why

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be the most aggressive team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're not number one most aggressive, I think

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Speaker 3: they'd be number one. A like to your points, how

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Speaker 3: if the Cubs don't have if they stay continue to

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Speaker 3: stay relatively healthy, they won't have a ton of holes,

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Speaker 3: having a nice lead in the division. Is the most

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Speaker 3: aggressive team the team that gets the best player traded

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Speaker 3: at that time. You know, that could be one way

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Speaker 3: to look at it. And you know, maybe there's a

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Speaker 3: position player who moves that just doesn't really fit for

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Speaker 3: the Cubs, but that team makes, you know, arguably a

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Speaker 3: bigger splash. But like, yeah, they have to be in

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Speaker 3: that conversation of like most aggressive, and I think they will.

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Speaker 3: Jet Hoyer as you know, deliberate and cautious, as he

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Speaker 3: has been as a lead executive. You know, he's very

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Speaker 3: He still is aggressive, like he worked for THEO for

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Speaker 3: is not afraid to make huge moves. We saw it

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Speaker 3: with Kyle Tucker. I think you know, even he would

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Speaker 3: say when they acquired Jamr Candelario, arguably the best hitter

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Speaker 3: moved at that deadline, and the Cubs only a couple

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Speaker 3: of days earlier were being viewed as likely sellers and

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Speaker 3: they just got hot. And not only did he hold

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Speaker 3: on to Bellinger, Cody Bellinger, he traded for Jamers. So

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Speaker 3: when you have a team in this situation, a big

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Speaker 3: keep this job and maximize Kyle Tucker's walkier. It is

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Speaker 3: absolutely go for it mode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if you look back at twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: that in the reverse here. Yeah, you know, there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to go He's already gone and gotten Kyle Tucker.

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Speaker 1: They have the team, They have a team that can win.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to go halfway. It makes all the

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Speaker 1: sense in the world to be aggressive. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: Patrick. Let's say that that first segment was the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline segment of our of our show. The rest of

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Speaker 1: this is kind of, you know, questions about the current team,

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Speaker 1: the players that are on on the team currently. This

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Speaker 1: one that I joked, is it the burner of our

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Speaker 1: buddy Jesse, Jesse Rogers. Is there any concern for PCA's

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Speaker 1: lack of plate discipline and it's on base numbers? That's

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here here, Patrick, I think there's.

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Speaker 2: An awareness of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the other day this wasn't you know to

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Speaker 3: Jesse's question, but counsel is being asked essentially like, you know,

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Speaker 3: if Pete can go high or go low, is it

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Speaker 3: impossible to pitch to this guy? And the council was

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, one more question about a current player.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, maybe other than maybe that's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking up. I went back on Baseball

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Speaker 3: That was a okay, a June twenty eighth trade to

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Speaker 3: guy that would have you know, had you like dropping

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Speaker 2: But like when a team is performing the.

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Speaker 3: Way the Cubs are and you're not just you know,

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Speaker 3: what do we need in October? What does this opponent present?

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Speaker 3: Where where can we get better? And certainly counsel is

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Speaker 3: someone who is always questioning, asking those questions, who's presenting

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Speaker 3: like one sort of specific philosophy. He's very adaptable. If

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Speaker 2: How they evolved, and.

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Speaker 3: Brews always seemed to like just plug in guys who

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Speaker 3: think you're gonna have to keep monitoring that because that's

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Speaker 3: it's not gonna cost a lot, and that's something you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll say again, I just wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: He hasn't looked like I'm not I don't think he

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Speaker 1: looks as he looked pretty rough early on. He looked

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Speaker 1: like it there's nothing hard being in here. Some more

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not saying it will happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that confident about it just yet. But

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Speaker 1: I also, I mean, guys like him, they just he

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Speaker 1: has an act for hitting. So I'm not ready to

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Speaker 1: say that you know he can't hit or he's done

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Speaker 1: just yet very well, maybe he's a forty year old it.

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Speaker 1: It has to end it sometimes, all right. Another mail

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Speaker 1: bag episode. We appreciate all the participation from the listeners.

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Speaker 1: It really helps us. It helps us think of ideas

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Speaker 1: as well, so we know what you guys are thinking

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Speaker 1: about and what you guys want to hear about. Thanks

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